Snutz - CDL Tournament & Grand Final - WoW Classic Day 140

[@christerknutsen8031]

Why does the tournament ref. sound like he's lost all will to live

[@Klievmar]

because he already knew it was a warlock vs warlock that came into the finally. so he was bored as f....

[@razStarcraft]

23:17.. Just wins the tournament: "YEEESSS!! YESSS!" Monotone voice guy: "Ok uhm, that's it guys" ...Anticlimax much?

[@crowwelldodger3938]

this tournament was the most drown out unfair boring piece of shit thing that ever happened honestly

[@Vukode]

give locks a completely separate tournament

[@JoHn-if6wy]

Any classes that doesnt require crit or hit chance and isnt gear independent (dot classes) is in a different league. Not sure how blizzard forseen this as balanced. Also they used to be fine at some point when you rewind it a bit back in classic. Death coil only used to do damage and heal. It never used to fear in terror. I dont remember which patch they implemented the terror but its far back. All the nubcakes on the forum cried how they had no defense mechanics vs melee classes so they gave a 3 sec instant fear on it. Take it with a grain of salt. The game doesnt really require skills.

[@tonigabric6269]

​@@JoHn-if6wyI bet you can write this about every class u don't play xD get better and don't complain

[@Detheroc420]

Everyone knew snutz was gonna win this, venruki called it back when this started. Called him the most technically proficient player in the league. You guys are salty af, 4 button rotation... more like he knows what to do in every situation, in every scenario, versus every class

[@felixs2034]

@@Cynsham Siphon life and Demonologist, not Soul Link

[@Cynsham]

Felix S ya i realize my mistake my bad

[@TudorSicaru]

more like warlock has counters for everything, but ye, in the right hands it wins u tournaments

[@craneflaw2019]

sry with all due respect but lock is just not demanding in comparison to other classes:( Still fun to watch

[@TheAwesomoe]

23:20 for that good old snutz

[@NavyNukerz1337]

Snutz is eternal

[@croszdrop1]

Great duels. Love your enthusiasm lmao. Somebody please check on the ref guy to make sure he didn't off himself

[@peterkildetoft]

so much hype in the beginning of this tournament wtf happened? nobody is talking about the final

[@user-uz1hq6cr6t]

oh nothing man they just thought it was smart to drag a one or 2 day epic tourny 3 months or so

[@DabbaDont]

Cause nobody wants to watch warlocks dot and kite duels

[@thomaslindholm6612]

You could almost hear how depressed Tips voice was ''Good duels guys-_-''

[@Detheroc420]

@@user-uz1hq6cr6t for 50k nah 2 days wasnt gonna suffice in the least...

[@antonyhatzi]

The truth is that nobody wanted a lock to win the tournament, anyways Gratz snutz

[@sawyerreign6628]

I dont mean to be offtopic but does someone know a tool to get back into an instagram account?? I somehow lost my password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me.

[@sawyerreign6628]

@Harley Bronson thanks for your reply. I got to the site thru google and im in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@sawyerreign6628]

@Harley Bronson It did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D Thank you so much, you saved my ass!

[@harleybronson843]

@Sawyer Reign glad I could help =)

[@taylenday]

"I just Dark Ruined myself to death.."

[@uglekuk]

*Dark Rune

[@Wushi666]

lmao he acts like these duels are even close, he just dots, fears a bit and runs around

[@Preacher_.]

It's well known that SL Warlocks dominate in 1v1 duels. But I think the restrictions & allowances meant to somewhat-balance each class were pretty good. This is the first time anything like this has been done in Classic WoW (excluding the much smaller, less restricted Beta Tournaments). Overall the final scores weren't that far off from one another (certain classes, i.e. warriors, had fewer wins overall, but that was to be expected). Snutz & Nazgrul are just extremely good, high level players who understand tgis game inside and out. I'd say the same for Xaryu, Venruki, Soda, Bean, ect... Maybe they'll have a winner from each class next time.

[@davidbanterford3216]

He lost a bunch of em

[@foxmulder8955]

lolmao. try duel a good shadow priest, you take 1 mind blast you're dead. Thx for your insightful comment tho.

[@Twinkyzs]

@@foxmulder8955 locks counter spriests

[@foxmulder8955]

@@Twinkyzs they do, but under certain circumstances spriest will come out ahead. Resists on kicks/fear can end the duel very quickly.

[@rcberry13]

Why isnt he sou link spec like he was earlier in the tournament?

[@taylenday]

CDL got some weird ass rules.

[@LalzJeNeSuis]

Damn, I didn't think he lost a duel 14:36 and vs a druid ! SL lock would have been different. And maybe a void would have been better ?

[@tonnylenny13]

No idea how he loses a duel to Druid lol. Should not be loseable as a lock

[@LalzJeNeSuis]

​@@tonnylenny13 Yeah I wonder the same. He's one of the best warlocks on Classic. SL lock was probably forbidden. Drood also had a fear immune, and the shadow reflector.

[@pedatoore]

@@tonnylenny13 Soda had the blacksmith fear immune trinket, thats how u win that one duel, after that it was gg

[@senpaiasmr3889]

Another win for World of Warlocks

[@jujucasar2003]

anyone know which version of classic aura durations shows the enemy buffs? the regular one on curse-gaming doesnt do this

[@taylenday]

"I just Dark Runed myself to death.."

[@Defocus_]

fear dot run thats a fun class to play

[@holtszom3746]

actually the other classes did exactly the same, thats just how meta pvp looks like, i mean demo isn´t really a fun spec either

[@deloxxxx]

Imagine hearing this warlock complain, when all he does is fear.

[@NavyNukerz1337]

This warlock has been to blizzcon 5 times, why are classic kids so clueless.

[@deloxxxx]

@@NavyNukerz1337 What does his curriculum have to do with the fact he complains about resists (he is an orc with 25% stun resist) when he casts full duration fears and dot, nothing else and acting like the oponent had any chance of winning him.

[@NavyNukerz1337]

@@deloxxxx 25%*, "when he casts full duration fears and dot, nothing else" it seems to be a little more than just that considering he's leagues better than any other lock in Classic even though he's played much less time. If your criticism wasn't so overblown I'd say I agree how cheesy warlocks are, but oh wait that's literally every class in Classic.

[@deloxxxx]

@@NavyNukerz1337 Im not complaining about complexity or balance. Its classic and warlocks are by far the most overpowered class in 1vs1, if you want ''perfect balance'' or more complex rotations, just go to retail. Im just pointing out him complaning about certain game mechanics when he has by far, the upper hand on every match, but i cant critize him because he has been 5 times in blizzcon. ''Nothing else'' was an exageration ofc

[@MrYouzilyj621]

"he is an orc" you should get your eyes checked my friend

[@Znyggisen]

which addon for tracking counterspell cd?

[@geeroy9315]

What addons does he use (warlock ones)

[@dacelticcross]

All the salty hater comments,did your favorite streamers get owned? There there pumpkins.

[@rcberry13]

I didnt think Healthstones were allowed?

[@barteksoltys1247]

They banned Soul link talent and allowed Heal stone

[@rcberry13]

@@barteksoltys1247 it wasnt banned in the earlier rounds of the tournament tho?

[@danielphipps2655]

How much did he win (prize money)

[@masterchief699]

Wow very humble Snutz

[@naquan59]

Yes yes We all really wish the flashy mages like xaryu and zen would have won.

[@Wayoooooooooh]

imagine complaining about fear a resist, and then just being able to spam it again....

[@graddeos]

honestly when i saw the 210 shadow res vs Trixter i was like, sure this tournament is good. total BS imho

[@vicxdarko5855]

Why did ziqo put so much effort in to killing pet when there is no soul link?

[@agagqbq]

pet can dispell poly no pet lets the mage reset which is their win condition for almost every matchup

[@vicxdarko5855]

​@@agagqbqty for not trolling😅

[@jacechan5499]

was going to make troll Spriest cuz all the forum talk about how OP shadowguard is. but know see them being fear spam (even with all the pro stop). UD might still be best

[@MorrisMJ872]

UD Spriest won the EU tourney

[@andreasbastiansen9525]

The 360p tho..

[@ginz9r]

Like wtf are you fuvjing moron it has been like this for like 20 years now but I repeat it for you once more: IT TAKES SOME TIME AFTER UPLOAD FOR HD TO BE AVAILABLE

[@ginz9r]

Like literally 20 years

[@GoldbondPowder]

First Searing pain cast all finals lmao Anything for the Win. Good show.

[@DavidMoore12345]

Why doesnt he go demonology and get soul link I don’t get it ?

[@catag3866]

why isn't he using Soul link?

[@HALPQT]

It was banned in the tournament because it would literally beat everything 1v1 without a chance of it being close.

[@catag3866]

@@HALPQT it is so stupid to change the rules mid tourny.

[@HALPQT]

@@catag3866 Well if you want to have a fun tournament instead of the top 8 being all SL locks it's not that bad of a choice imo

[@catag3866]

@@HALPQT indeed its not a bad choice ,but makes the tourney alot less revelant changing such a big rule .

[@mcfarvo]

5:53 Bean!

[@charliejohansson3409]

well played snutz but damn, Locks are lame AF

[@Ashnieugh]

Dueling with 200+ shadow resist , are you serious?

[@JoHn-if6wy]

Game is for 40 year olds who are autistic and think they are skilled at something. Take it with a grain of salt. World of dot class. 0% crit chance 0% hit chance

[@Goldeneye3336]

@@JoHn-if6wy You are the one who is salty. Pretty ironic. Someone loses 1 v 1 that they're supposed to win xD. The autistic excuse is gold. You should see a psychiatrist.

[@AdmiralAutism212]

lock vs lock ResidentSleeper

[@andrewvaladez1246]

@23:20 "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS" ! nice m8

[@telreyne]

Goth is better

[@biohoof537]

All those resists and he still can't win. Imagine if you could go sl/sl and have health stones loool. Warlocks have so much cushioning.

[@thomaslindholm6612]

Snutz just so much better mechanically

[@benjaminghazi787]

SL/SL in classic? You’re going to need some more talent points for that...

[@The0nlyy]

You obviously have no clue what SL/SL even means and, you’re just regurgitating something you heard on the internet. I won’t even tell you why your statement is laughable.

[@ΣπυροςΒου]

Funny how bias works, especially in your case. Last duel orc lock resisted every single spellock and still almost made it

[@cole2839]

Locks nerfed and a lock still wins. LULW.

[@joehope3211]

how are enemy buffs visable??? thought mage was only one who could see no?

[@josephcarter9761]

joe hope addons m8

[@joehope3211]

@@josephcarter9761 no there arent addons to see enemy buffs. its a part of the game. m8

[@swordfish_2h507]

"Insane" :D Wtf is this...afk duels

[@SeemsLikeSomething]

There’s ALOT of room for error on a lock. It’s a bit gross. Other classes literally cannot make a mistake or it’s over. They need to find a way to balance this in the rules somehow.

[@themasterkey3]

These duels are snooze fests holy.

[@-Ashram-]

good duuuels guys x1k :)

[@SnutzHihihilol-pv9tx]

Can' t Stop can't Stop Casting Casting Casting Lock Shaman

[@bodybuilder6350]

I can't believe they allow healthstones. + 2000 hp. Might as well allow summoning circle to bring some friends lol.

[@Mthompsonwv]

I have no doubt he’s good as his class, but warlocks are too OP to be that impressed. I’m sure if he were any other class he probably wouldn’t have won.

[@nickkersey6744]

You're thinking of mages and rogues...

[@Mthompsonwv]

Nick Kersey Nah. Rogues are incredibly powerful in world pvp but not in duels. Mages are great in both, but Warlocks are monumentally better.

[@ShazbotDesign]

@@Mthompsonwv a prep rogue can kill any class if they have all their timers.

[@plainzero7847]

Hey hey hey Snutz. Play an easier class... oh wait, you can't. You're already playing a warlock

[@willianzorzi6026]

Multi R1 with priest DK and monk, got blizzcon What are u talking about?

[@Vic-qp1gk]

@@willianzorzi6026 he is referring in classic. Warlock counters everything in classic, but some people are just salty

[@ant135]

lol I'm pretty certain their is no other version of the game less skill dependent than vanilla dear lord was that painful to watch just the first duel.

[@foxmulder8955]

98% wlocks would have gone oom and lost the duel, or just straight up died to spriest damage. You think it's trivial to make the right decisions but it rly isnt.

[@SeemsLikeSomething]

Fox Mulder I dunno. I think he’s got a point. When a different class actually wins a tournament, then maybe it’s a discussion. But unless the rules are adjusted to make up for the lock’s ability to make a multitude of mistakes and still win, I doubt we will be seeing other classes getting past them. It’s not a complaint, I don’t really care. I just think it needs to be corrected for. It’s not fair when warriors can’t even make ONE mistake in the span of a gcd without it costing them the match.

[@The0nlyy]

Hahah, all the people who have never played warlock before are in these comments. 50% of them think Snutz was SL and that’s why he won. The other 50% think he’s using a “4 spell rotation.” Spoiler alert: He was not SL and warlocks have a 8-9 move rotation not including trinkets and healthstones.

[@Al-lx9od]

that priest was aboslutely terrible.

[@ПавелХартовский]

Imagine be so yarrin win as sl warlock

[@MySweer]

Nice

[@alexm6340]

Ziqo is the god of stomping on bad players but anytime he play versus good players, he just doesnt show up. Has he ever done something meaningful in PvP WoW? Other than commentating? I heard rumours from danish players that he was incredibly toxic to play with but that was a few years ago, he seems nice and mature on the AWC streams.

[@Goldeneye3336]

oh no he plays good pvp. you must be very noob and salty. did ziqo sweeps your arena dreams ? tell me where he touched you. must have stomped you real hard.

[@subroto2768]

This makes warlock look like the most boring class to play

[@sheeshmate597]

it literally is

[@subroto2768]

Nah man I remember watching Goth's PvP videos and it made me play warlock

[@subroto2768]

It's just the way he plays

[@sheeshmate597]

@@subroto2768 destro is fun, aff is the most boring spec/class combo in the game imo (for pvp ofc)

[@Vic-qp1gk]

He is just playing it safe, of course you could go crazy warrior in cloth spec (destro), but for this he needs to outlive

[@Wayoooooooooh]

warlocks are the most boring/easy class, this tourney had so much hype until all the fun classes to watch couldnt compete. wasted 20 mins watching a 4 button rotation. needs to be more balanced. two locks in finals was pretty obvious.

[@naquan59]

can you name a time where pvp in this game was ever balanced.

[@Wayoooooooooh]

@@naquan59 no, but why keep it in blizzards hands to balance a game when you can make a tourney with rules that makes 1v1 dueling more balanced. letting certain class pot isnt enough of a balance.

[@naquan59]

@@Wayoooooooooh so when you say fun classes you mean mage and rogue, they made so people could stack shadow res locks couldn't use healthstones or spellstones, and in the finals they couldn't use soullink. it's not even warlock themselves that are that strong it's just two talents deep into the demonlogy. The one lock that wasn't demonlogy (imporv) he was the fun high burst cool drakedog spec and he didn't even get pass the first round. and no peopel though it was going to be 2 warlocks and 2 shadow pirest at the end. but somehow Sodapoppin got 3rd with a druid which people didn't think even had a chance.

[@naquan59]

locks can be just fun and flashy has mages snutz is just playing A VERY boring safe and strong spec. watch?v=5q6mrcpt1_w this somebody playing a fun pvp spec.

[@benjaminghazi787]

john doe they took an entire end tree talent away from locks and you’re still going to cry? Shut the fuck up.

[@sinanuludag4083]

Funny that the best always play with mage rogue or warlock. Try it with one of the lesser classes. No hate though, you sick as fuck.

[@ashtonsmith9682]

Wait this guy is a rank 1 warlock? All he has to do was mana drain. Priest can’t win.

[@Goldeneye3336]

Oh no, priest can totally win. You have to respect the Blackout proc and play ultra defensively.

[@simon3785]

Not much skill req for warlock inn classic. Hurts to watch:(

[@Vorza24]

just coz your brain and eyes cant see it, doesnt mean there isnt much skill req :)

[@plainzero7847]

@@Vorza24 Yep, really hard to see him "macroing" all those spam fears/dots until they don't resist while running away. SUPER DIFFICULT

[@graddeos]

@@scootertutorialsyt exactly. Warlocks only very hard match up is the undead Spriest, but even then running with 200+ Shadow res solves the issue. this tournament is total BS

[@foxmulder8955]

@@graddeos spriest is hardly the hardest matchup, can be tricky in some cases but rogue is by far the class most able to kill and even perfect a wlock.

[@1996Makc]

food in duel omg

[@vliv2609]

imagine playing warlock zulul

[@DabbaDont]

Warlocks are so fucking broken in classic duels, boring as fuck to watch and it's so funny watching him cry about resists when all they do is fear spam and kite haha

[@davidbanterford3216]

Shame SL is pretty awful for anything but meme duels

[@foxmulder8955]

he's not speced SL tho. He has siphon life and master demonologist

[@streamsnipelul]

This was literally rng lol

[@spw425]

Such lame gameplay honestly

[@SnutzHihihilol-pv9tx]

Cantgowrongwsnutzy

[@pyscho86]

Demo highskill xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD FUCK YEAH! ive pressed 2 Bottons i deserved this win so much. xDDDD

[@user-or6lx2xv9l]

Warlock duels are dumb

[@literalgod4034]

ROFL

[@superspeedmotor]

더럽다 더러워 뻐킹 흑마

[@jessyember7384]

TBH this tournament was lackluster in terms of skill... these players are good but they are not great, ive seen far better duelists then what i saw in this tournament... many mistakes or bad moves from almost every player... im not talking bad about them, but there are way better 1v1 classic players out there who have been practicing 1v1 on strictly classic wow for 10+ years... then you have these guys who have been playing retail for the last 10 years, and dont have much time or experience on classic... im not being rude just telling the real truth... trust me wen i say there are ppl out there who are far more experienced in classic wow 1v1 they just arent famous...

[@skylerqt5550]

jesse stone these players are not great said a random to the one of the top2 locks in wow history, funny stuff

[@jessyember7384]

@@skylerqt5550 they arent, but thats only from a 1v1 classic perspective, read my comment.

[@Alwaysmoving1]

@@jessyember7384 i hear what you're saying dude but Snuts is literally a wow championship winner and always in the world tournaments, you don't be that good and then be rubbish with a few different spells, besides, it's literally impossible for you to gauge their skill and level by watching them play other top elite, if the guys you know are soo good why aren't they here? Being good in 1vs1 outside org is not the same as winning bck to back tournments, in boxing people are great in the gym, then get koed in the ring, guys who are rubbish in the gym,can often do amazing in the ring.

[@edward6069]

if he used soul link instead of siphon life, it would have be an easy win

[@pedatoore]

Soul link is banned from the tournament :D it would be way too op

[@echel0n1234]

Damn this was boring, I was expecting more.

[@mexcellent227]

sums up Classic

[@foxmulder8955]

pple enjoy watching cone of cold arcane explosion and believe its more "skilled" because its flashy, lel

[@purplestuffs5237]

So who can dot and run around better? LOL

[@identitate]

Screaming YES YES after beating a mage and a druid. Literally free HK for a lock. I play a lock. I could randomly smash my keyboard against those 2 classes and I'd still win. "YES YES". Lol what.

[@mathewchambers5420]

Y’all hatin cause you can’t kill ole warlock lol stfuuuuu talkin bout him complaining

[@julij94]

This was actually really panic and nub play, doesnt deserve the wins. Counting on no cds to win