So, about the Spirit nerfs... | Dead by Daylight

Some of the Spirit's add-ons have received a significant nerf but you don't need to worry too much, she still has plenty of other alternatives. Even without add-ons and with random perks, the Spirit is still fairly fearsome and might remain in the 3rd highest spot in the Killer tierlist for a while.
00:00 Nerfs explained
02:19 Random Perks (Double Activation add-ons)
14:55 Anti-healing Build (Activation + Longer Post-Phase Lunge)
26:49 Random Perks (Without add-ons)
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[@T-rexman0908]

One day the police are gonna see one of these videos and they’re gonna find out otz has hundreds of different ID’s for each identity per video

[@Arashi24_7]

Maybe they finally find shrimping for otz in his basement.

[@MasterMike_]

1163 ID's is crazy

[@themr_wilson]

It's fine, they're all verified

[@T-rexman0908]

@@themr_wilson for now

[@moneypyrex5242]

I’m so dead! 😂❤

[@DunoPriv]

I love how Otz played the game with the stream off but his OBS still picked up random offline chat conversations happening at the same time lmao

[@MiffyBlack]

Also the Random Perkstreak Overlay on the bottom xD I was so confused as to why there were only so few chat messages if this was a stream recording. Took a while :D

[@Kaeiand]

Pretty funny to see Otz go out of his way to not hook in basement when he's using Territorial Imperative. 😂 Entertaining video, as always!

[@virtualvirosis]

@@Hex_mommymilkers change chars then lol + this has nothing to do w the original comment

[@VRTX-lh5qz]

​@@virtualvirosisit's a bot

[@PrincessFelicie]

@@Hex_mommymilkers if you've played enough to reach P100, you've played enough to know how to counter camping and tunneling.

[@cipher9323]

​@@Hex_mommymilkersbanned 🚫 BANNED 🚫 Take your milkers and go.

[@dirky1185]

​@@PrincessFeliciemommymilkers copy pastes the same 2 comments in every DBD video lol

[@JinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJin]

2:26 The true nerf. 😢

[@user-ov8pv3oq4y]

Literally unplayable now

[@AntiBellum]

@@Hex_mommymilkersare you an alt of a streamer or something

[@sirgo0se97]

Ah i see the mommymilkers bot has visited here

[@seabass5892]

@@sirgo0se97 Kinda sad to see people STILL giving them attention, despite it being pretty obvious what they're doing

[@infinitetandem]

@@AntiBellum short bread maybe

[@itzme_ben1hime]

Somehow Blight has still managed to matrix dodge a nerf

[@mckookie2967]

Or how bubba can still facecamp with saw 4 years later but all the new killers can't use their powers by hooks

[@danielmaster8776]

Blight has more counterplay than Spirit.

[@danielmaster8776]

​@@mckookie2967That is stupidity which needs to change.

[@itzme_ben1hime]

@@danielmaster8776 not talking about his base kit. I’m talking about his add ons - they’re completely busted and need nerfing

[@danielmaster8776]

@@itzme_ben1hime But if his base has counterplay, then how much better do his add-ons make him, really? I guarantee you, half his strength comes from the PC advantage. You'd never get those same hits on console where you can't do hard mouse flicks. Fix that, and you fix him.

[@cheeseman_jones]

I started rewatching a lot of old otz videos, it's crazy how Wesker was released last year! Wow does time fly, you've been around for so long and your doing amazing otz keep it up.

[@cheeseman_jones]

@@Hex_mommymilkers k

[@zaer-ezart]

​@@Hex_mommymilkersDon't you dare talk shit about my boy Nick

[@themr_wilson]

The days are long, but the years are short

[@BloodyArchangelus]

Watch otz DS2 runs... to understand how old we are

[@cheeseman_jones]

@@BloodyArchangelus I know lol, I was there it's crazy how fast time has went by

[@jknMEMES]

21:02 *drops pallet even though the Otz is behind him* *dead hards into the pallet* *Slow vaults the pallet* Damn, what an amazing play. I wish I had survivors doing that in Bronze IV, instead of cooperating, taking protection hits, and healing together.

[@ryandelgado213]

Do remember that the ranks do not equate to skill. Bronze IV, as with every rank simply just shows how much they have played that month.

[@tobirae-zm7jg]

Rank is reset every month. Not everyone plays all the time. Good players don't play all the time. People have lives. They're just good at the game and BHVR doesn't have a reliable SBMM yet so anyone can be low tier and almost anyone can get to Iri 1

[@jknMEMES]

@@ryandelgado213 But there's often a connection between playtime and skill.

[@anth0ny515]

Otz i really appreciate you as a content creator! I feel like it’s so rare to find someone who’s so humble, but still very confident, in their craft. You don’t shy from showing gameplay that shows your losing matches and it’s so refreshing. Thank you for being you Otz’s clone!

[@TheCrippledEgg]

IMO she should get the Legion/Ghostface treatment where all her percentaged recovery add-ons are combined into one good add-on. She already has two add-ons that instantly recharge her power. She doesn't need five add-on focused on power recovery.

[@jacobcoates7987]

If bite the bullet hid your aura you could just bring a big medkit or even self care to stay injured and dodge aura reading anytime you think the killer might see you. Then u could still run 2 or 3 other meta perks instead of distortion or shadow step.

[@battel_bruser3928]

Now I remember why I don't play DBD thanks for reminding me no survivor plays for fun just to win

[@kazoomer4373]

​@@battel_bruser3928there is literally nothing wrong with what they said. Why are you crying over a perk suggestion? Does the word "meta" scare you?

[@honeypotusername]

​@kazoomer4373 why are you crying over perceived crying?

[@clemsyaf9627]

​@@honeypotusernamewhy are you crying over perceived crying over perceived crying?

[@Jigsaws_Game]

​@@clemsyaf9627why are you crying over perceived crying over perceived crying over perceived crying?

[@Vulgun]

Dried Cherry Blossom's "nerf" is actually a buff considering you can more accurately tell WHERE the Survivor is with the add-on. Sure, you won't get the detection from afar, but like Whispers, the less range there is, the better you'll be at finding a Survivor's exact location.

[@loverofstars5676]

ya thats honestly what i thought too

[@alexquinn9627]

I don't see how that's true. The extended range didn't mean less accuarcy, since killer instinct gave you the survivor's position, unlike whispers, where you could argue reduced range would increase precision.

[@jackholt6860]

Not true, now by the time killer instinct activates you are phasing past them and can't see it

[@chocobosnmooglesnjunk7033]

Otz's hair literally changing every video 😂 now we got the pompadour, i dig it!

[@pistolmoth4198]

4:30 it's probably just how loud spirit is, like she's deceptively loud especially when you can't hear her radius or the whoosh

[@Killiyon]

OTZ like the only dude to not drop a nic cage vid

[@Aurora-zs4bc]

The ratio of recovery of phase to use of phase is 1.76 with old yakuyoke and is 1.8 with the new rusty flute. The flute has no speed downside, though, so its arguably better. Moreover, they buffed green and brown recovery, but neglected that there's a yellow recovery, so now the brown does more. Dub behavior.

[@bodacioushamster4526]

Thanks otz for the very useful and informative content. Very cool 👍

[@spookhater]

Otz uploads doesn't fail to get me bricked up

[@Jefrejtor]

Hella bricked up rn

[@jackw.1342]

Oh.

[@j0hnicide]

​@@Hex_mommymilkersreport this guy for spam bro stfu. dbd is your livelihood? LMFAO

[@SkySoFew]

​@@Hex_mommymilkersBased off your screen name I can almost 100% guarantee that's not why you get camped and tunneled.

[@SkySoFew]

@@Hex_mommymilkers It's a public forum, you didn't have to.

[@SupremeDalek225]

My favorite build on Spirit is running save the best for last with a movement speed add-on and an activation speed add-on, spirit being able to mindgame at loops longer and more frequently was cool but even more so now that those add-ons are getting nerfed I like this combo because you recover from a hit really quick and catch up to them super quick so within seconds you're either right on their ass again or you got a second hit already.

[@lilyflower5895]

That's literally my build. Activation + Speed is super strong with STBFL. I also run Surge, Sloppy and Pop.

[@SupremeDalek225]

@@lilyflower5895 You're literally stealing almost my whole build too lol, I run discordance instead of pop since I like finding people for stacks and gen defense.

[@lilyflower5895]

@@SupremeDalek225 LMAO true. Sometimes I do No Way Out too instead of Pop, but the recent Pop buff got me feeling some kind of way. It's sooooooo satisfying.

[@knightsofsumeria]

I wonder if dark devotion still will apply its terror radius on the obsession if hit while they're in the Dreamworld. What I'm getting at is even if they have the oblivious status effect, will the terror radius still be able to affect survivors and ignore the oblivious effect?

[@Zakon673]

Do you think you could also do a video about Sadako's "Buffs" as well? You're a respected community figure and the more people who find out she's been nerfed instead of buffed, the more likely we are to prevent them from dumpstering an already bad killer. I believe BHVR did her rework with good intentions, but they failed, and they might be willing to buff her up before live.

[@mckookie2967]

Going to any tv with a tape needs to be removed, if not then the tapes need to passively build up condemed imo. If not its a nerf

[@deadhelix]

the btb buff otz suggested where it hides aura would be so nice. I think there should be perks that are answers to other perks so theres more thought into what is and isnt worth taking, like how deerstalker may actually be useful when nicholas cage releases for his plot twist

[@tobirae-zm7jg]

I hate that deerstalker is a thing. It shouldn't counter nic cage and that's coming from a non biased player. If anything distortion should work in the dying state to force people to run distortion if they want to counter deerstalker. It's Hella unfair that deerstalker went from a noob killer slugging perk to a perfect counter to a decent survivor perk making it useless.

[@Meitti]

The online bully talk reminds me of the recent ousting of Stream Sniping discord group on WoW. Turned out pretty much everyone in that group were miserable losers with life control issues. Not just "mom's basement" types but also severe drug crimes and abuse, stuff like that. Years ago one serial-SWATter, streamer- stalker and griefer turned out to be a violent psychopath who abused his mother all the time too. So more often than not, people who consistently do nothing but online bully people around are genuinely mentally ill individuals.

[@ThorDude]

Being terminally online probably isn't helping their mental state either.

[@krisascom5198]

but actually imagine this : instead of survivors being able to resurect allies , the killer would have a passive that a dead survivors can become temporary phantoms where they were hooked that make living survivors scream when they get close to it , it would fade way after some time

[@gachispy]

Hey otz, I've seen on the forums that with this duration bug fixed, bubba's addons that were bugged are fixed as well, e.g. iri carburator thing (there is an insane montage with double iris). Can you test it?

[@maru_da]

They did on stream

[@thedutywarlord264]

He did in his stream when the ptb released

[@gachispy]

@@thedutywarlord264 well most folks from yt didn't see it, so my suggestions still stands

[@Not_Ins0mnIa]

hi, Otz. Maybe it's not the best idea for a video but how about making comparisons at how killers looks like from survs POV (weapon's position, body movement, etc) and same from killer's POV? It'd be interesting to find out the most similar pictures from both sides. Thank you!

[@PancakesTsuki]

Also nice seeing spirit gameplay from u otz I dnt see her a lot on ur channel :3

[@deathbyping]

Quick and quiet makes I’m all ears not work for that vault, so I think it’s fair that bite the bullet would block nurses calling. Also Otz I would like to know, why do you not collect some of your daily challenge bp.

[@Razain666]

To answer your question he said on stream it's so he doesn't reach the 2,000 bp blood cap during the stream

[@AidanStewart9]

What otz said about bite the bullet is my only thought whenever I see the perk. Having your aura hid as well as silence idk why it isn’t a thing

[@Myden59]

are the duration bug nerfed for only spirit or does the other kilers get the bug fixed as well?

[@ElleFalco]

The hair looks great! Info is amazingly useful as always and fun to watch

[@Shiro_Sage]

As a Spirit main, I'm a little sad to see the nerfs but I understand why they were needed. I didn't use them often but combining MDR and Amulet were a lot of fun. However, since Amulet had the "downside" of slowing phase speed by 15%, MDR shouldn't feel any different to me with other add-ons. What I would REALLY like for Spirit is to visually see when her passive phasing is active while playing her since only survivors get to see it. I sometimes like using her Juniper Bonsai add-on, but it's prettt much impossoble to know if I'm getting any value out of it. Hopefully the devs can do something about that in the future.

[@kingol4801]

These nerfs were not needed at all, but ok.

[@red.4712]

@@kingol4801 yes. they were. her duration addons were literally bugged and have been fixed. MDR is still amazing even after the nerf, because seeing scratch marks is not even that important when phasing. I literally play Spirit and think these nerfs were needed lmao.

[@nubgutter]

@@red.4712”She needed nerfs I play spirit🤓” Left out the part where you’re a survivor main or you never faced a hard swf group in your life.🤣😂

[@plainbubble]

@@nubgutter🤓

[@Assassin4408]

​@@red.4712they werent bugged, now her basic addons have downsides i cant really think of any other killer that has downside on using common and yellow addons (except maybe Billy and bubba but beast marks has so much payoff that it is worth)

[@Copain88]

No Cage video? I get you’re a killer main, but kinda surprising

[@HeyItsStephx]

I know but also everyone has done plenty of videos on him, i just wonder how he feels about his perks 🤔

[@StephenBraudis]

In recent history, before this nerf was announced, was spirit an issue? Majority of my games have been wesker, knight, huntress. I gave a spirit once a month and the don't use powerful Add ons.

[@ShyestofGuys]

Says a lot that I thought the duration was 3 to 4 seconds at it's worst. Pretty excited to try out the double activation as I never tried them before

[@oldpernilong0]

28:56 Checking for dead hard is already part of Otz life now. Even when it can't possibly exist.

[@stevengomez2474]

Otz, for the first game, if u already have territorial, why not hook the first survivor and/or the last gen survivor in the basement? Isn't the basement the best place to hook regardless?

[@notOtzdarva]

I thought it would be best to hook asap and check gens 🤔

[@zarduszardo7327]

@@notOtzdarva I agree, basement is a huge time investment. Most times, it doesn't pay out well.

[@SneeGG]

3:15 did otz decide to not go to basement with territorial or am i seeing the wrong perks cuz theres alot of dog perks

[@notOtzdarva]

Actually now that I watch again Im not even sure what I thought at the time!

[@revenge3265]

Its kinda crazy that some of Blight's add-ons weren't touched. Like, Alch Ring needs a good smack by the nerf hammer.

[@baddabing4494]

I think these nerfs are pretty solid (balanced I mean) but the lean into having to use your power more sparingly, along with MFT being in the state it is makes me nervous about how much pressure Spirit is able to maintain consistently.

[@th3TwistedLight]

Is Cherry Blossom really a nerf...or a tool that allows for even more precise triangulation now, since pretty much as you see the KI, you can swing

[@kingol4801]

Which is fair. Spirit cannot even to through walls and obstacles in her power. Making her blind is just unnecessary and accessibility-problematic (there are a lot of deaf people playing the game, btw)

[@smhgamersgamers7813]

​@@kingol4801her not being able to see survivors is a huge part of the balance of the killer, being able to see survivors would make her super easy and broken

[@djohnthesalty]

@@kingol4801 So you want to make spirits power the ability to have an insane movement speed buff and invisibility with no downside?

[@Manu-49876]

Are we getting an all killers addons tierlist soon?

[@dasors]

Now I have to rethink my Spirit build... Good video, it really explained the changes well! 👻💨

[@Obscurus233]

22:30 - New character: Necromancer

[@pixel1858]

An otz vid on my birthday?? My favorite treat!

[@neo-x.]

Whats your opinion on Sadako's iri addon change? its change is what we have right now as basekit for her

[@MrGaming-GAMING]

That hook stage scenario was crazy 😂

[@luckypirate6365]

21:39 do you think clourophobia should showdown pickups as well ?

[@Nikkibuh]

It does slow down pick ups, but not ground recovery.

[@luckypirate6365]

@@Nikkibuh isee

[@Rufucchi]

Holy, what a fire hairstyle, you absolutely wear it amazingly 🔥

[@cellad1498]

That's why a love dejavu to find those gens and mainly avoid 3 gens obviously but it's an awesome perk

[@wpninja83]

Spirits 2nd best addon combo has always been White Hair Ribbon with Muddy Sports cap. "Charge Speed with Movement Speed".

[@suppleymaster5083]

Just reached iridescent 1 for the first time! Thank you so much Otz ❤, hope you proud of me :)

[@mattpk1609]

So yesterday i played Spirit for the first time in many many months. And i got reminded why i play her rarely. For some reason whenever i queue up with her i get GOD SURVIVORS. Its not even close. Always 4/4 loop masters, gens pop left and right and with no other killer do i get teabagged as much. I really don't know why its so bad with her compared to other killers.

[@brad1426]

I actually still had a bugged intro animation on PTB. It seems like Spirit will just forever have this lol.

[@steveschmitt5192]

I don't understand how your seeing the footsteps , because I'm slowing it down to watch closer but can't see anything

[@rayanhani1036]

Did they nerf all duration add on for recovery for all killers like PH for example or only spirt?

[@ploop12321]

New survivor idea made from this vid is the ability to summon a 0 health state bot when it gets hit it dies but it makes scratch marks and grunts like a normal survivor

[@Thebuffshaman]

Now they need to fix the sound direction bugs in phase

[@coldseraphim]

Well now we have a reason to use other add-ons on her.I'm sad that Cherry and Ring got nerfed but oh well,cherry still rather solid.

[@Glitch-Gremlin]

"Unbreakable i can take, but NECROMANCER!?" LOL

[@nicholasarthur8841]

My God that dead hard at the pallet made my holler, and then I choked on my own spit at the firecracker.

[@kingsiegfried8568]

Furin is the add on I use the most, there is no way I'm not grabbing survivors doing gens.

[@atciitwcat]

Hey Otz! I hope you see this but I've been watching your videos on and off for years and I'm really impressed how dedicated you are to making DBD content! What keeps you so interested? I love watching your vids btw!

[@Axyierl]

now can we talk about the Sadako nerfs TwT

[@nafereuskortex9055]

Bite the bullet should give you great skill check progress if you start in the killer heartbeat and then are still healing when the heartbeat leaves.

[@ikki76AMV]

Otz is right about the items being used a lot right now because they will be nerfed, rn I'm using all my brand new parts because of the upcoming nerf.

[@lostchan2189]

Hey otz do you know if cross progression will become a thing in the near future

[@uggZymoroon]

otz will you talk about sadakos changes on the ptb?

[@310gurke]

everytime otz hits a survivor: No one: .. Otz: "Im sorry."

[@shakh_3d]

*Nice content Otz! Keep it up* 🔥

[@yoitstidus3359]

What was the top perk on the anti healing build?

[@BoltBoy21]

Only reason why I still play this game cause of how great Otz videos are

[@campackman]

9:11 god that grab was insanse 😳

[@connerjessop8422]

You should make a video on the sadako changes

[@hinamiravenroot7162]

Can you make a vid about the new Onryo changes?

[@xded3615]

Perfect timing i just bought the aot spirit skin so i wanted to play her a bit more.

[@surewolf]

2:28 that was the best part about playing the spirit 😢

[@TTV.Murlocs_Ruler]

One otzdarva video a day keeps the big sad away

[@AshleyTheFighter]

2:47 “I’m just gonna go in the pallet and try to get a hit, no mind games” He then immediately tries and mind games the nea into thinking he’ll appear on the other side of shack Right right, no mind games; I’ll just break the pallet

[@dizzylilthing]

Hi Otz! It's friends here, great video!

[@CrimsonCorvid]

40 minute otz video, yes please and thank you

[@jeremylam1528]

howd u get out of phase so fast, like can u cancel ur phase mid phase

[@Trident_Gaming03]

So did Mother-Daughter ring get nerfed by 15% or 37.5% I know it's one of them, I just don't know which one is correct

[@kaiojiiyorii5598]

Why she isn’t standard 115 speed I’ll never know anymore when got so many killers like bought with near instance recovery or speed like wesker

[@l104lsuperfeeds7]

22:31 Claudete is a necromancer XD

[@ravenhavengaming]

Otz having Territorial and not hooking his first down in Basement really bothered me :D

[@bigmansauceboy]

Me: who is this guy??? Him: hello friends this is Otz

[@ItsNotSolo]

Random but, Otz' hair looking fire in this video

[@RtsFps1]

Does the terror radius of Spirit stay on the husk when she’s phase-walking?

[@dbdstuff]

I believe so yes.

[@MrEzioCraft360]

22:25 well that's going to the weekly compilation hahaha

[@dntremad8290]

17:55 why did you mindgame that she wasnt making it to the window 😂😂

[@englishbutler5998]

Please talk about the Sadako Nerfs, I need to know what to do about BHVR killing my main

[@WavyWaeYT]

Nerf? Why are they nerfing an already weak killer?

[@jakepark9783]

@@WavyWaeYTit’s bhvr we talking about dude

[@cryguy0000]

It's not really a nerf per se, at least it isn't advertised as one. But yeah it kind of is a nerf. Being a Sadako player is suffering

[@Oldmangamess]

38:49 is otz not playing the PTB???

[@Gravemaker4]

Here's what could be done to bite the bullet to counter nurses, while healing aura detection does not work on you. That includes friendly aura detection, however really, that alone could be a perk, but if that alone was a perk then it should be killer's aura detection only, that doesn't work.

[@Kaffeebohne122]

I feel like the flute buff to 40% is kinda insane. this will cut off like 6 seconds of the total 15 seconds recharge time. seems like she can still be very oppressive with this addon, you can basically just spam your power without having much downtime cause the recovery is so fast.

[@DwayneTheSquidJohnson]

Yeah fully agreed, the devs need to be careful when buffing cooldown addons on a power that can be used as tactically as Spirit’s, she can traverse, use it in chase, mind game with it, it’s a lot and nearly half of its seconds off is such a huge deal, it’s probably a good idea to make it only 30 or 35%

[@user-bp2mo8sf5t]

It cuts only 4.3 sec. It is not - 40% recharge time, it is + 40% recovery rate. Base recovery 0.(3) charge per second Recovery with flute 0.(3) * 1.4 = 0.4(6) Recharge time with flute 5 / 0.4(6) ≈ 10.71

[@loudwhispre9406]

@@DwayneTheSquidJohnson No, it's fine. She's played almost never, and she's only got 2 types of add-ons that are popular, speed and duration. By buffing something that never gets used, it makes this patch give AND take add-ons from her, instead of just take add-ons away.

[@daniels2745]

@@loudwhispre9406Dude, what? Spirit is still one of the best killers in play. If she doesn’t see play it’s only because newer players aren’t willing to learn how to properly play them

[@user-bp2mo8sf5t]

Also, yakuyoke amulet gave you 70% bonus recovery. Amulet with old ring was much more better than ring with flute now

[@infinitevoid227]

He has now reached the 4th dimension…

[@badasswarthog]

I feel like cross progression is so slow to come because ive seen people who can cheat on pc to add iri shards, add levels, prestige killers, unlocked killers for free, and even give themselves items/add ons. Imagine someone making a new account with everything 100% unlocked and then using that to play on console with everything for free EDIT: meant to add that would all be on the lowest possible mmr. And if the person cheating just so happens to be a smurf on top of it all, they would be able to make matches absolutely unbearable for those new players they get matched with

[@Isopropyl7915]

Ok i get the meter is 1 less, but doesnt that make it easier to find survivors? Youll hear them when theyrr closer to you, so you'll know where to hit if you hear killers instinct, buff right?

[@FinalBoy99]

Thought the same honestly

[@___i3ambi126]

I could see that being a buff for most players, but still a theoretical nerf for the best play.

[@FinalBoy99]

​@@___i3ambi126from what I have seen good spirit players don't use the cherry blossom. They just listen and use speed/duration

[@WhelpWasHere]

If killer instinct reveals their exact location regardless of how far away they are from you, how would reducing the range give more specific information? I think you are talking about using the add on for the audio indicator, but it gives a visual indicator as well, doesn’t it? I haven’t played spirit in a while or ever with that add on, so I could def be missing smth.

[@Isopropyl7915]

@@WhelpWasHere spirit doesnt actually show the survivor, just the sound!

[@alexandrsurovov6435]

The only nerf I am mad about is loading animation *back* removal

[@demonman905]

7:39 Why did he ignore the basement right there?

[@TheCrazedLorry98]

Otz haircut is looking fresh ngl