So I Tried Stormgate..

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Asmongold TV

Asmongold TV

7 ай бұрын

Asmongold plays Stormgate, a New RTS made by StarCraft 2 devs.
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@iblastyou4819
@iblastyou4819 7 ай бұрын
I really want to see the RTS genre make a comeback. Played so much of the OG Command and Conquer series.
@haakonglindtvad5489
@haakonglindtvad5489 7 ай бұрын
Tempest Rising is the game for u my friend
@v44n7
@v44n7 7 ай бұрын
CPM just killed enjoyments from RTS
@Spawn303
@Spawn303 7 ай бұрын
Oh. My. Gawd. Command and conquer….it was summer 96’ just got home from Saturday 8 and under baseball practice, got a bowl of Reese’s peanut butter crunch cereal to snack on and heading right to the family computer to play Command and Conquer…..wonderful memories
@mikeallen1763
@mikeallen1763 7 ай бұрын
I miss being able to play Command and conquer and star trek Amada , I have the hard copys but laptop is to new to play them
@mcspud
@mcspud 7 ай бұрын
Red Alert + Tanya will forever hold a place in my heart
@FrostGiantStudios
@FrostGiantStudios 7 ай бұрын
It was such a blast watching you, Esfand, and Phin in our 3P co-op mode. Your Stormgate stream was PC gaming at its finest. We appreciate you supporting our studio and the future of RTS!
@bassism
@bassism 7 ай бұрын
I was a C&C diehard growing up, but I am very excited to see somebody making old school RTSes again!
@TopAce6
@TopAce6 7 ай бұрын
I can't wait to try this game, I grew up with RTS, started with all the original's like Command and conquer, Warcraft 1, AOE, all the og's. I love that you added CO-OP, comp stomp is so much fun.
@omnidps
@omnidps 7 ай бұрын
Can't wait to try the game, since it's looking awesome!! As a new game dev, I've been wanting to make an rts too, and you've inspired me to take the first step. Thanks guys
@Tony-wo6rl
@Tony-wo6rl 7 ай бұрын
Your game looks fun!
@ethaneull1892
@ethaneull1892 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for having the game be free :) can't wait to play!
@sorantorann
@sorantorann 7 ай бұрын
I love starcraft co-op, i'm going to absolutely love playing this I really hope they go into the co-op commander scheme, where each commander faction has unique abilities and factions Edit: Asmon really needed to learn about A move when they told him in the first game, most the time his units were just standing there getting stuck and not attacking cus he was spam clicking units
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY 7 ай бұрын
That is exactly what they're doing. I'm just hoping that some of the heroes are not a controllable unit on the field, but instead give you global abilities and that sort of thing like the SC2 Coop commanders.
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 7 ай бұрын
​@@sihTdaeRtnaCuoYEvery hero does both, in fact
@warlocksnevereverdie
@warlocksnevereverdie 7 ай бұрын
It's has some of the team members that made sc2 co op
@user-nm4ty4ql2j
@user-nm4ty4ql2j 7 ай бұрын
noone asked and more important No one cares
@NicolasdeFontenay
@NicolasdeFontenay 7 ай бұрын
I also love SC2 coop :) This will be nice!
@adahepper2665
@adahepper2665 7 ай бұрын
I sincerely hope they add the ability to create custom maps like WC3 and easy mod tools to follow that up.
@lukebomber
@lukebomber 7 ай бұрын
they're smart, they likely will
@roshhashanah4405
@roshhashanah4405 7 ай бұрын
*already
@Broomsticks696
@Broomsticks696 7 ай бұрын
They have announced that it will indeed come with this function, with some nice QoL features too
@seabasswallyworld
@seabasswallyworld 7 ай бұрын
This is how RTS games live forever. Let the players create what they want for the game. Star Wars Empire at War is still alive and thriving because of its modding community.
@phaus5815
@phaus5815 7 ай бұрын
it's done my friend
@pixelpastiche
@pixelpastiche 7 ай бұрын
Swear to god I never thought I would find myself begging for someone to just spam units and buildings in an RTS but here we are.
@pixelpastiche
@pixelpastiche 7 ай бұрын
@@jonathansoko1085 The devs need to make the tooltips full of arguable opinions for this man to pay attention to them for more than three seconds, you’re right.
@Anttown123
@Anttown123 7 ай бұрын
I just wanted him to A move more than anything
@pixelpastiche
@pixelpastiche 7 ай бұрын
@@Anttown123 A isn’t on the WoW hotbar so if he could have learned to press it, the time has passed.
@cutecatsideways917
@cutecatsideways917 7 ай бұрын
Got the feeling he did this on purpose
@pixelpastiche
@pixelpastiche 7 ай бұрын
​@@cutecatsideways917 Then he should make a nod to it. i.e. Making four barracks and training from one using hotkeys: ok something is up haha ragebait. This execution seems to lean more towards incompetence, without some greater validation, though.
@Schismatise
@Schismatise 7 ай бұрын
"The problem with the RTS genre is that the people who play it are too good." Meanwhile, Asmongold: "How do I move my units?" I love this xD R-T-S hYPE! (ps. AoE4 is pretty good too, Beasty quit SC2 for it)
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY 7 ай бұрын
Hey Asmon. Thanks for using your reach to let people know about this game. Hoping for an RTS renaissance coming soon, and it really helps to let everyone know about this game.
@AlmightyBigMan
@AlmightyBigMan 7 ай бұрын
if the developers are looking at feedback in the comments, I really liked the ability to group units up in the little tabs in StarCraft 2. it made it way easier to manage everything
@Metaljacket420
@Metaljacket420 7 ай бұрын
This, I was wonderIng of they had unit grouping. Allows for really advanced army splitting and managing multiple groups, scouts etc. If I remember double tapping hotkey for group also brought camera there, or you could just click move units on map
@gongshowgg3363
@gongshowgg3363 7 ай бұрын
the Control groups feature is in game but the "tabs" are not visable
@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 7 ай бұрын
There’s control groups and even auto control groups, but they are invisible currently like sc1
@Stygiophobic
@Stygiophobic 7 ай бұрын
Is there an rts game that doesn't allow grouping?? It's been a mechanic in every one I've played for the past 27 years lol
@ultimaxkom8728
@ultimaxkom8728 7 ай бұрын
Isn't this a basic management feature for RTS? I don't think any RTS in their sane mind wouldn't include grouping.
@mercurial6480
@mercurial6480 7 ай бұрын
asmon playing RTS? I must be in an alternate universe
@user-cb4qd5fc1x
@user-cb4qd5fc1x 7 ай бұрын
You are now you changed gender and became my wife
@JohnCena9393
@JohnCena9393 7 ай бұрын
Its probably a paid sponsorship, only way he would touch an RTS i would imagine.
@nerdock4747
@nerdock4747 7 ай бұрын
Generous of you to use the term "Playing" when it comes to Asmon and new games.
@MattDamon69
@MattDamon69 7 ай бұрын
@@user-cb4qd5fc1xAre you implying that’s a male posing as a female online?
@aaronsandoval2910
@aaronsandoval2910 7 ай бұрын
His roots are in Warcraft 3 though so idk there’s gotta be an interest otherwise he wouldn’t even touch it.
@movntn
@movntn 7 ай бұрын
As a lifelong StarCraft fan and player it makes me SO EXCITED to see how much fun you all are having with Stormgate and co op. Awesome job Frost Giant 👏👏
@davidlazerz8564
@davidlazerz8564 7 ай бұрын
Glad more RTS games are getting made. Not my cup of tea but I believe everyone should have more games to play.
@wavybabe797
@wavybabe797 7 ай бұрын
this is the best attitude to have. i appreciate you :)
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 7 ай бұрын
RTS games are about making a lot of decisions (like doom). If you are more about games that favor clean execution (console shooters, smbb, old racing games) or following instructions (souls, 2d mario) it might not be for you.
@Djuntas
@Djuntas 7 ай бұрын
AOE2 never gets old, and great alive community :)
@thatoneguy2082
@thatoneguy2082 7 ай бұрын
cant believe theyre still making dlc for it @@Djuntas
@MrSlaughterrific
@MrSlaughterrific 7 ай бұрын
RTS needs to figure out how to conquer social elements and opening the door for new people while also not losing its identity
@FrostGiantStudios
@FrostGiantStudios 7 ай бұрын
We're trying. Co-op modes and other ways to play without feeling ladder anxiety are a start. We want to make Stormgate the most social RTS ever. I thought Asmon, Esfand, and Phin did a great job of showing how RTS can be fun to play with your friends.
@tiberiumgaming
@tiberiumgaming 7 ай бұрын
@@FrostGiantStudios Have you considered a collab with the people at Petrogylph Games? Lots of really good talent there from the Command and Conquer devs of old, they work super hard but it seems that RTS games barely get any notice these days. It would feel like getting the old crew back together for one last big hurrah
@vayokekita8223
@vayokekita8223 7 ай бұрын
@@FrostGiantStudios Maybe a skippable tutorial that explains the important commands with limited build options would be good. I'm sure you must have something like that already in the works but it would be good to have the beta testers who are less familiar with the genre to go through something like that first.
@GrandpaJean
@GrandpaJean 7 ай бұрын
well, thats why MOBA was birthed out of RTS. It's less complex and more social.
@coolyoutubeluke
@coolyoutubeluke 7 ай бұрын
jesus thats deep
@sorinnoctis652
@sorinnoctis652 7 ай бұрын
I really love playing the RTS genre even though I suck at it. I'm more of a methodical thinker which makes it hard for me to keep up with other players but, i find myself coming back every single time. I had a lot of fun playing the wc3 campaign and evolution of races(satyr ftw). I enjoy the modding scene for RTS a lot.
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 7 ай бұрын
It is a strategy game, just keep up with the macro and apply strategy and you should win
@nerfkeshegs2950
@nerfkeshegs2950 7 ай бұрын
Rts deserves time in the sun ty asmon
@Dainurian
@Dainurian 7 ай бұрын
So many developments in the gaming landscape over the past few years have made me so skeptical about everything companies promise. If there's one group of people I still have faith in though, it's these guys. A lot of these people basically created the entire RTS genre as we know it, and creating an RTS really does have to be a labor of love because there are infinitely more profitable types of games they could have chosen to develop.
@CainCorvinus
@CainCorvinus 7 ай бұрын
I havnt noticed yet, but i think itd be nice to see visual upgrades of units and structures as they upgrade, kinda like how the buildings in warcraft 3 change as they upgrade
@alexanderwryn2112
@alexanderwryn2112 7 ай бұрын
“I don’t think I lost a single guy wiping out that base.” Asmongold 30 seconds later… “Man, this one guy just snuck into my bass and killed like 10 of my guys,.. and wiped out all of my workers.”
@Willofthesun
@Willofthesun 7 ай бұрын
Itd be wild to see streamers start playing rts again. It looks promising with this star/warcraft 3 game
@tryanbryan429
@tryanbryan429 7 ай бұрын
I love seeing the inspiration from both Starcraft and Warcraft.. I also hope there long support for custom map. that how a game stay alive!
@gsheist
@gsheist 7 ай бұрын
“Let’s play at Normal Difficulty,” he said. Looking awesome!
@itstaste
@itstaste 7 ай бұрын
FeelsGoodMan an RTS game has made an appearance.
@FrostGiantStudios
@FrostGiantStudios 7 ай бұрын
💙
@hunteriv4869
@hunteriv4869 7 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved that it had beginner tutorials for things like a-move and Asmon completely ignored them. You can lead a horse to water...lol. Great stream.
@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 7 ай бұрын
1:07 okay to clarify it’s the 2017 and after SC2 model basically- F2P But with campaign paid episodes (continuous shorter episodes is the goal), some laid co-op content and a whole load not just maybe soem cksmetics There will be new types of cosmetics in pets, fog of war skins, that aren’t in SC2 as well as ones that are
@Ctrontite
@Ctrontite 7 ай бұрын
You have to select your group and hit A then click so that they attack on sight. if your group is big enough then you walk them in until everyone is close enough to a target, then hit A and click so that they all attack at the same time.
@Shippo1337
@Shippo1337 7 ай бұрын
While a lot of the comments dont have any hope for this game the kickstarter reached its goal within 15 minutes today and just crossed the 500k mark. There seems to be a decent demand for a game like this. Keep in mind this is early beta footage. SC2 didnt look nearly as good in early stages as it did when it was released.
@jonel3596
@jonel3596 7 ай бұрын
I already know I wanna play this. Please god do not let this game down
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman 7 ай бұрын
12:02 that is absolutely AWESOME LMAO!!!!!! they open a portal and hell just kind of ships an amazon package up thats a 10/10 idea
@JasonSipe16
@JasonSipe16 7 ай бұрын
My first RTS was Warcraft 1. This looks really fun, and I love that former Warcraft developers worked on this.
@whatshisface04
@whatshisface04 6 ай бұрын
Warcraft 2 was my first one, and I played it like crazy! I would always bounce between Red Alert, War2, Age of Empires 2, and Starcraft. Played a ton of War3 and AoE 3 when they came out as well.
@zkatsu19
@zkatsu19 7 ай бұрын
game looks good but needs a clear distinction between allies and enemies
@roshhashanah4405
@roshhashanah4405 7 ай бұрын
Pre-alpha. Clarity is the whole focus. They’ll have outlines or glow at sometime.
@astrosoup
@astrosoup 7 ай бұрын
To me, the colors/saturation just needs to be toned down, at least for environment and objects, so it is easier to parse what I'm supposed to be looking at. I also wish it wasn't so cartoony, but them the trends.
@ProtossOP
@ProtossOP 7 ай бұрын
@@roshhashanah4405I mean it’s advertised on the web page as Closed Beta test
@-jakey-
@-jakey- 7 ай бұрын
Watching Asmon get bunker rushed on Normal mode had me laughing xD
@1990erre
@1990erre 7 ай бұрын
This is literally all the people who quit old blizzard making another great RTS again!
@dustinroberson1865
@dustinroberson1865 7 ай бұрын
I hope in co op that you can give control of units to other teammates and that they add some combos that can trigger (Certain units from different factions together gives a bonus, maybe something like the kerigan thing where the zerg turn her into infested kerigan). I feel like there is a lot that could be done with co op or even 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 that would cause people to diversify.
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl 7 ай бұрын
mad respect for RTS players, it is the hardest genre by far
@fixo5132
@fixo5132 7 ай бұрын
hard agree, only esport I ever watched is SC2 , it so impressive.
@magicall9596
@magicall9596 7 ай бұрын
RTS games are not harder than any other game genre, maybe they require a bit of different set of skills but I wouldn't say that it's harder than MOBA or something
@Tarkovclips-mw7ur
@Tarkovclips-mw7ur 7 ай бұрын
its not because it has less player base. highest league level is way harder
@fixo5132
@fixo5132 7 ай бұрын
@@Tarkovclips-mw7ur compare the apm required to play the two game competitively, SC2 is way harder in that aspect. As a league player you only need to worry about a few factors, in SC2 there is so much to do with your brain.
@Tarkovclips-mw7ur
@Tarkovclips-mw7ur 7 ай бұрын
i bet you dont play league at a high level@@fixo5132
@andreicristian9575
@andreicristian9575 7 ай бұрын
Lol, "there's no pay to win". You literally have to buy Heroes.
@anonimowelwiatko9811
@anonimowelwiatko9811 7 ай бұрын
Imagine getting Warcraft IV... like part of WoWs story in RTS form. Damn I would love that.
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman 7 ай бұрын
17:55 i am high as shit and when asmon was like "i think im okay" i was like "ya he's okay. dope" then i realized that wasnt his army. ha
@Blitzkrieg1012
@Blitzkrieg1012 7 ай бұрын
Never really been a fan of the Starcraft/Warcraft style of RTS, I much prefer C&C but Ill still try it.
@mrfuzzyibrows
@mrfuzzyibrows 7 ай бұрын
love smaller studios. while AAA want safe bets, its the same stuff. its great to see something new n interesting.
@henrifortier8621
@henrifortier8621 7 ай бұрын
Isnt it just a wish version of sc2? Legit curious cuz thats what it seems like.. what is innovative about it ?
@mrfuzzyibrows
@mrfuzzyibrows 7 ай бұрын
@@henrifortier8621 doesnt has to be innovative. just refreshing to see something else besides an FPS or anime gatcha which dominates the space right now because it generates moneys. RTS is a genre that hasnt been touched in decades. it looks and feels like starcraft cuz its from the makers of starcraft lol. id still be pretty interested in it if it has another aesthetics be it fantasy ala warcraft or military C&C. my point is AAA will not break the mold/trend because the returns on development is a risk theyre not willing to take, which i understand. indie and small studios is where u wanna go to to see something outside the norm.
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire 7 ай бұрын
And if something from a smaller dev is successful, big studios will copy the hell out of it. :P
@LamyCND
@LamyCND 7 ай бұрын
@@henrifortier8621 the engine is what is innovative about it. SC2 engine has been unrivalled for years which is why it is still the largest RTS community. All the features of snowplay (like rollback netcode and 60tick etc)... if they get it right then it will be the most responsive RTS of all time.
@vissermatt1058
@vissermatt1058 7 ай бұрын
im not complaining... but this is LITERALLY the people who worked on wc3 and sc2 before blizzard obliterated them.... they might not have much funding though?
@Gizimpy
@Gizimpy 7 ай бұрын
"Are there any walls in this game?" To quote some great SC2 commentators, "micro your macro." Building placement is a tactical consideration in and of itself, influenced by map design, faction dynamics, and build needs. RTS meta takes a while to absorb. Also this is he longest Stormgate content I've yet seen and it's awesome- hope to see more!
@datenshiwolf
@datenshiwolf 7 ай бұрын
WinterStarcraft also had a stream of Stormgate if you haven't seen it
@Gizimpy
@Gizimpy 7 ай бұрын
@@datenshiwolf I had not- thank you :)
@datenshiwolf
@datenshiwolf 7 ай бұрын
I didn't realize but I guess these streamers had specific time slots that they had access to stream it. LowkoTV just released their stream of it too. So definitely a lot more content and hopefully more to come
@Gizimpy
@Gizimpy 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I just saw Grubby’s new stuff. Nothing like fresh content.
@williamsantiago2072
@williamsantiago2072 7 ай бұрын
I grew up on Warcraft 2-3 and LOVE to see the OG devs back in action ❤
@wilson0213
@wilson0213 7 ай бұрын
I've never seen the appeal in these types of games but I'm happy there's a wider variety of stuff to pick from
@OlgaUnKolhozs
@OlgaUnKolhozs 7 ай бұрын
Rts were mainstream back in the day, give it a try
@Flintt
@Flintt 7 ай бұрын
There's Age of empires 2 youtube channels going to this day, rts isnt dead, albeit its on a respirator 😂@@OlgaUnKolhozs
@stabiloviclegrande9813
@stabiloviclegrande9813 7 ай бұрын
I love RTS like Starcraft 2 and AoE4 but this games design looks soulless af. Even if the gameplay is good, if they have success with it they should hire some people that design completely new assets for units and buildings and invent factions that have more character
@Wiedadde
@Wiedadde 7 ай бұрын
Asmongold: i want to play on normal. Also Asmongold: how do i move my units?
@kluafoz
@kluafoz 7 ай бұрын
Asmongler looking like he went to a tanning bed salon
@wowomah6194
@wowomah6194 7 ай бұрын
This looks cool. I was a HUGE SC2 fan and played it for years, each expansion added such cool unit options. My only worry for this game is that, without the large name of Blizzard, without their server capacity however wonky, and without the prestige of the Pros and Tournaments and so on that maybe it will be hard for it to get any love. I hope I'm wrong! I'd love a game that is free of the vined entanglement of a huge corporation that develops a game like SC2 over YEARS AND YEARS with a drip of content when in reality it could have had so much more content if an indie company had free reign to just create.
@astrosoup
@astrosoup 7 ай бұрын
They have a ready-made audience of content creators and pros who are desperate to move on from SC2 because of the things you mentioned, so it will have a good shot if they make something acceptable.
@TheMrGazoline
@TheMrGazoline 7 ай бұрын
These guys are from Blizzard. Blizzard only has like one unlucky intern, who maintains sc2.
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 7 ай бұрын
Servers are cheap
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire 7 ай бұрын
This may be a bit too much like Starcraft. I'm curious to know what they are doing different and new.
@schmidthappensmedia
@schmidthappensmedia 7 ай бұрын
That's interesting because most of the community was saying it was too close to warcraft 3 , and too far away from starcraft, atleast when the first gameplay reveal was released. The beta is looking more Starcraft-y as in terms of responsiveness, but I still think its rather different than starcraft...Most people are wanting a competitive game where the skill ceiling is high, so this gameplay seems like a step in the right direction. Frost giant mentioned they want to appeal to a larger audience, and lowering the barrier of entry by making the mechanics and in game strategies easier to use.
@snow7141
@snow7141 7 ай бұрын
They just copypasta and change the skin 😂
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire 7 ай бұрын
@@schmidthappensmedia Okay, so I'm not crazy. I thought models looked Starcraft, but world and gameplay were Warcraft 3. Thanks for confirming. I just think if you are going to do an RTS so similar, you should try to do something new though, something that makes it stand out as different.
@vissermatt1058
@vissermatt1058 7 ай бұрын
well for one, they arent evil scum blizzard? for two they arent microtransaction greedy goblin scum blizzard? for three they arent drop it like its hot if it isnt mobile promotable evil scum blizzard?
@strongboy7289
@strongboy7289 7 ай бұрын
Looks good definitely going to give this a go coming from Warcraft 2 original RTS days.
@Solacecrafting
@Solacecrafting 7 ай бұрын
NGL, Asmon choking up the last 5 minutes was pretty hilarious.
@carsonrandolph7911
@carsonrandolph7911 7 ай бұрын
I grew up on C&C, Warcraft and StarCraft. These were my gateway games. We need to revive RTS, this game will get my undying support!
@kailron
@kailron 7 ай бұрын
actually looks good, holy
@Torrmac
@Torrmac 7 ай бұрын
UI too big, camera zoom is too close, textures need polishing, then I think its a PERFECT addition to the RTS genre! Can't wait to play it.
@cokemaniac1
@cokemaniac1 7 ай бұрын
I spent my whole childhood playing SC1, but it was always playing UCM(user-custom maps), basically they were equivalent to flash games made in starcraft. It'd be great if something similar came from this game. Though I doubt it's in their scope.
@danielsolorzano8623
@danielsolorzano8623 7 ай бұрын
Grabbed the Collectors Edition earlier today. Glad it actually looks good
@FrostGiantStudios
@FrostGiantStudios 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for supporting Stormgate!
@thelordofpie7157
@thelordofpie7157 7 ай бұрын
I love sci-fi but I wish there was more fantasy stuff, like Warcraft 3
@Miketar2424
@Miketar2424 7 ай бұрын
I also miss the idea of progressing a hero, and magic powers.
@astrosoup
@astrosoup 7 ай бұрын
This seems to be a combination of both, tbh.
@AntonioLopez-kw3ev
@AntonioLopez-kw3ev 7 ай бұрын
Sc2 >warcraft ,WoW,LoL
@thelordofpie7157
@thelordofpie7157 7 ай бұрын
@@AntonioLopez-kw3ev in your opinion. I prefer the fantasy setting and like the games more than Starcraft
@AntonioLopez-kw3ev
@AntonioLopez-kw3ev 7 ай бұрын
@@thelordofpie7157 wasn’t an opinion that was a fact and that’s your opinion that you like boring games cool
@Peran12
@Peran12 7 ай бұрын
Having the vanguard/terran units feel familiar is such a good thing for those who played RTS back in its heyday. Hoping the new gen of gamers experience and enjoy this like us internet boomers!
@tgr3423
@tgr3423 7 ай бұрын
I saw a brilliant video on AoEIV that really broke down why RTS games seem so unapproachable for people, and it boils down to the fact the genre typically has bad onboarding, and that there aren't many games that translate well into learning how to play one to begin with. You learn to player a shooter, and you sort of know how to play all of them on a basic fundamental level. You learn how to navigate a 3D space, you learn how to move and shoot at the same time, and if there are abilities, you learn how to apply those too. RTS games are remarkably simple in terms of control. You select units or buildings with your mouse, and then you click where you want them to go, and you pan the camera with your middle mouse or the edge of the screen. That's it. That's all there is to the basic fundamentals. What RTS games really need to teach people is what the games are actually about: multi-tasking. If you know how to produce a worker while you're attacking, you're already better than 80% of players. Stormgate looks really fun, and I hope that they dedicate time and resources towards the RTS onboarding process, because it's definitely a genre I think is worth playing. The level of adrenaline and satisfaction I feel when I win a 1v1 is incredible, because I know I relied entirely on the skillset that I developed and it was nobody else's fault if I lost, so I rarely get angry playing ladder on these games. Learning and getting better bit by bit is a huge part of the entertainment, and it's very easy to tell that you ARE improving.
@unagiandroe
@unagiandroe 7 ай бұрын
Well said. Care to share that video? Sounds interesting.
@Avetarx
@Avetarx 7 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I suck at RTS games, but this one looks interesting and I want to try it.
@lonnie6954
@lonnie6954 7 ай бұрын
Me too I'll be watching the campaign, probably download just to try out custom matches
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman 7 ай бұрын
im glad he made a stormgate video stormgate and the company really deserve the most spotlighting they can get. i dont doubt even without a marketing team they will rise to the top upon the first month/year of release.
@FrostGiantStudios
@FrostGiantStudios 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the support!
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman 7 ай бұрын
@@FrostGiantStudios :O
@Ardell_Drelzexian
@Ardell_Drelzexian 7 ай бұрын
Gotta expand fast in these arena style rts games
@carismo9502
@carismo9502 7 ай бұрын
Let's hope these RTS enthusiasts can make the comeback the genre needs!
@Mieqo
@Mieqo 7 ай бұрын
Holy sh... this looks so generic it hurts. I get it, we are supposed to simp for it now, because Asmon said so, but why would you play a starcraft clone with a generic story and graphics? Just because some ex Blizzard devs work on it?
@Jokkkke
@Jokkkke 7 ай бұрын
Exactly my thought. It looks like it could've come out 10 years ago. There's nothing new or innovative about the gameplay. It feels like a Starcraft II clone cash-grab with a free to play model. I know it's alpha also, but everything about the game just seems bland.
@Mieqo
@Mieqo 7 ай бұрын
@@Jokkkke I am glad I am not alone in this, the comment section is full of awe and I just don't get it. It's just weird seeing Asmongold not calling it out and acting as if it's anything more than a f2p Starcraft clone with uglier graphics and absolutely uninteresting story/atmosphere/IP. I thought Asmon is one of those who will give unbiased opinions, but I guess he can do that just with WoW, D4 or other Blizzard games.
@Mehoyboi
@Mehoyboi 7 ай бұрын
a true starcraft successor? :O yes pls
@snow7141
@snow7141 7 ай бұрын
Nah
@Mehoyboi
@Mehoyboi 7 ай бұрын
yah@@snow7141
@mooodeang
@mooodeang 7 ай бұрын
Just feels like a different take on star craft, wish they would reinvent RTS so it felt fresh.
@Otterly_luna
@Otterly_luna 7 ай бұрын
Though saddened that there will be only 2 factions at launch (with at least a third one coming later). I am happy to see former Blizzard employees doing what they do best...Making good RTS games
@Amplifymagic
@Amplifymagic 7 ай бұрын
It kind of comes off as a ripoff, but since the game devs are the OG blizzard teams I’m willing to give it a shot with an open mind.
@jsuperhalo1
@jsuperhalo1 7 ай бұрын
tfw you rip off your own game
@colbycharlton7259
@colbycharlton7259 7 ай бұрын
The visual aspects give me a heavy mobile game vibe but the base building looks good, combat could have units doing more or just look more fluid in general. I wouldn't mind seeing halo wars 2 style combat with starcraft building and asthetics
@andrewmaxconely
@andrewmaxconely 7 ай бұрын
It looks good, but watching him play is too cringe. I'm not expecting a master, but attack moving and control groups are the very basics. I really hope there is a 5 minute tutorial to teach new players the bare minimum here. Still, it's cool that Asmon is showing interest in a game like this, so far out of his wheelhouse.
@Stygiophobic
@Stygiophobic 7 ай бұрын
Tbf watching him play anything new is cringe 😂 souls series, cod, starfield, and many more. It's hilarious at times tho and great entertainment when it's not making you want to slam your face into a desk😂
@Awakened2001
@Awakened2001 7 ай бұрын
The end was classic asmon. Thanks for showing us the game it looks like its coming along nicely.
@Klattrup
@Klattrup 7 ай бұрын
Why don't games include a special streamer UI that created a dedicated spot to put your face, and ensure the rest of the UI works and is always in view. It can't be that hard to do!
@tylerp7522
@tylerp7522 7 ай бұрын
When are we getting Warcraft 4?
@DanielWillen
@DanielWillen 7 ай бұрын
Never, it just isn't profitable for a giant like Microsoft Activision Blizzard Bobby
@tylerp7522
@tylerp7522 7 ай бұрын
@DanielWillen so dumb... I'd pay 100 bucks for a quality hero RTS sequel to warcraft 3. Or even just a new world and story for a hero RTS. Not starcraft
@martinlatour9311
@martinlatour9311 7 ай бұрын
They can't even remake War3 and you want them to make War4?
@tylerp7522
@tylerp7522 7 ай бұрын
@@martinlatour9311 good point lol
@silviuvisan505
@silviuvisan505 7 ай бұрын
In 2 fiddy
@Dayemon
@Dayemon 7 ай бұрын
Oh wow I wonder how he got into the beta :)))
@bojanglespoonan8419
@bojanglespoonan8419 7 ай бұрын
Wah wah
@nullx2368
@nullx2368 7 ай бұрын
It's obvious dude, he's paid for sure. Not only paid I heard they are under his desk helping him out. Notice his facial expressions were more alive during this game play. Money is truely evil, but under the desk activity is unacceptable
@lukebomber
@lukebomber 7 ай бұрын
​@@nullx2368He literally stated he was not paid for this
@jaegerdanger6328
@jaegerdanger6328 7 ай бұрын
@@nullx2368 Where did you hear that? Can't just go around making what so statements without sources lol
@Walrus101
@Walrus101 7 ай бұрын
@@jaegerdanger6328 He's being sarcastic. Asmon said he's not being paid, so he's not, unless you want to be an unhinged conspiracy theorist with no evidence
@leighagnello7993
@leighagnello7993 7 ай бұрын
So it's like WC3 mixed with SC2 and has hero's of the storm elements. Don't really need to attack the base u do the objectives and that destroys the enemy base then u attack it in-between the objectives
@Jos_Louis
@Jos_Louis 7 ай бұрын
So hyped for this game. Thank you Asmon for shining a light on this genre and this game specifically. Sincerely, A Starcraft 2 and RTS refugee.
@tylerp7522
@tylerp7522 7 ай бұрын
He getting paid to play these betas? goodness
@Walrus101
@Walrus101 7 ай бұрын
...? He literally said he's not. Why are you posting bogus assumptions as if they are fact before you even watched the video...? That's so sad dude
@akaslowmoney
@akaslowmoney 7 ай бұрын
Loving this spiritual successor to SC2 and old Warcraft, nice fusion, some polishing and this should be fun
@Ludasan1
@Ludasan1 7 ай бұрын
it would be nice to have a formation option like protect a heroe around him, or lines of fire more organize
@JustinGRhodes
@JustinGRhodes 7 ай бұрын
Seems interesting though I’ve only watched 30seconds so far. But wanted to be the first comment cause ima loser
@TimeOfPk
@TimeOfPk 7 ай бұрын
First
@Seb_Falkor
@Seb_Falkor 7 ай бұрын
I played a bit of starcraft and a bit of c&c, but my main RTS games were both of the Halo Wars games. I know baby's first RTS but damn those games were fun and surprisingly playable on a controller
@Dianbler
@Dianbler 7 ай бұрын
So like the train co-op mission on Starcraft that first mission is. Looks interesting. I don't care about ladder, so I want to sink ungodly hours in Co op
@rahn45
@rahn45 7 ай бұрын
Was funny watching them think they could survive another bombardment when the mission object was already 2/3 towards the failure state!
@8darktraveler8
@8darktraveler8 7 ай бұрын
This is like watching your little brother play, because mum said it was his turn. lol
@TimmyInTarky
@TimmyInTarky 7 ай бұрын
I understand most of this is early stuff yet, but I feel like some feedback would be good. And I also like where all this is going. So the following text is primarily just the negative/I feel this could be that way/ part with some specifics and examples. The game's graphics looks like it has more child-oriented focus. Units and environment look very bright, oval, slightly cartoonish, materials look very plasticky, shiny and clean. Reminding a lot of Overwatch style. And we all know how we feel about Overwatch at this point.. Not a good association. Some more grit, gore and feeling of punch to animations could be improved. The attack animations feel too sharp and model turning looks almost instantaneous, giving difficult immersion for the human race. Some inspiration could be taken for example from the marine and marauders from SC2 - for example, the marine, have instant attack effect, but the attack animation shows a long-ish burst of fire (yea, it kinda breaks and looks like they shoot into the ground when doing a stimmed and fast stutter-step attack, but that is rare for normal players), they don't move super fast, but create the immersion they are a fast unit with quick small steps. Those ninjas with big blades feel like they have super fast attack, but then very long cooldown to next attack - looks weird. Or the Blokade hero - his jump feels like he is floating in the air. The air-time could be significantly reduced, but if it is needed to telegraph his jump and land point, some other visual effect may be used. Either the units looks fast, attacks fast and is fast, but then having such a long attack cooldown or sluggishly looking movement animation with big jumpy steps doesn't feel in place. The "marine" blobs feels similar - they super quickly bring up their weapon and attack, but then take ages to bring their weapon back when "running". There needs to be a cohesion in the unit's design - is it a fast one, is it a slow one and give this perception to all its actions (unless it is affected by something else, but that, again, should affect all the different animations of the unit). A good example was that fat abomination-looking-like thing with the big cleaver - it moves slow, walks/waddles slow, attacks slow, it has some cooldown in its attack. From the trailer the gun on the back of the woman looks like it is made out of lego-plastic and half of its height looks like it doesn't have any purpose, doesn't look like a believable WEAPON, like you could take half of that gun away and would make it look even more of a gun without taking functionality away. A Weapon, especially a futuristic one, doesn't feel like it should have so much "extra" material with no visible purpose like some attachments, some added protection to the mechanics or something like that. All the human stuff look so rounded, eliptical and shiny, they don't feel very post-apocalyptical, they feel more like taken from Kerbal's Space Program, Spyro, Fortnite. I understand the art design may want to separate itself from the Warhammer and SC universe, but this doesn't look so immersive or especially attractive to the "old-school" fans that may be the core player base.
@randomness4989
@randomness4989 7 ай бұрын
I feel like each faction should have it own hero just like in wc3 like the undead,humans,nightelfs etc
@hendrickstrauss3311
@hendrickstrauss3311 7 ай бұрын
Great gameplay. I..feel?...like RTS games are making a comeback with quality titles. Another one I HOPE is good is Tempest Rising. Fingers crossed. I love this genre.
@PhilYes
@PhilYes 7 ай бұрын
Oh my god I can't wait anymore, I need this game right now. 10 Seasons Starcraft II Master here.
@dexterstemmerding1815
@dexterstemmerding1815 7 ай бұрын
This is Warcraft just re skinned. Or star craft skinned in WC. Either way I’m here for it. Can’t wait for it to come out, miss the good ol RTS.
@user-zj1qp5um7e
@user-zj1qp5um7e 7 ай бұрын
Philosophy behind it correlates with my feelings towards genre. Perfectly addressed. I do believe this game will change RTS scene.
@Horlianz
@Horlianz 7 ай бұрын
If Stormgate can get awesone Ko-op & Story Missions going (like the niche Game Battleforge had) then it will never run out of content and i will play this for a looooong time. Even if they dont, this game looks like fun for at least a year or two
@dindunuphenwong
@dindunuphenwong 5 ай бұрын
Really warms my heart knowing less experienced RTS players are still interested in RTS.
@geneanthony3421
@geneanthony3421 7 ай бұрын
Honestly I really liked the Starcraft 2 model for pay. You buy commanders when they come out but you can play for for free up to level 5. I also have no issue spending $10 for new campaigns. It's basically free base and DLCs for money.
@SaiyanKCM
@SaiyanKCM 7 ай бұрын
Wow the infernals look surprisingly good!
@BTJC4REAL
@BTJC4REAL 7 ай бұрын
Storm gate looks like an awesome idea for an RTS. It still has a lot of improving to do but I’m not even going to over criticize because it just now is going into beta testing. I’m really hoping this is the next big thing in the RTS world, and I hope this attracts a newer audience and not just old rts players. Storm gate has huge potential and they are putting it in the hands of a lot of the right people to get feedback that can lead it in the correct direction.
@CyberLife3
@CyberLife3 7 ай бұрын
Let's hope he plays more of this
@josephstevenson1769
@josephstevenson1769 7 ай бұрын
Should be able to auto zoom in and out to full revealed map at any point. Like in forged alliance.
@huntrokilla
@huntrokilla 7 ай бұрын
Imagine the custom games the community will make with this game. I can’t fucking wait
@pedromoreira1311
@pedromoreira1311 7 ай бұрын
The game looks very raw and there's no difference between other RTS. I think it will fail.
@IAMTHEJUGGERNATE
@IAMTHEJUGGERNATE 7 ай бұрын
All that matters to me for an RTS game: 1) is there enough race/unit variety (to start with, it seems like not much with only 2 races, but hopefully they add a bunch more) 2) are there lots of maps and are there varieties for styles of maps (are some maps good for epic, long fights where you can bunker down, and others for fast, sub 15 min 1 v 1 battles? or are they all variations of the same thing?) 3) are there good modding tools and a good map-maker? (tying into the above 2 comments, the best way to add variety for maps/races/units is allowing the community to make things - example: the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for Dawn of War) 4) is the AI strong enough to be a good challenge, and is it smart enough to provide challenge in other ways than just cheating with the economy and build rates? (yes, a super hard AI will need to cheat to be difficult, but it's nice when it at least puts together competent unit clusters, or changes strategies to try to counter the player instead of just attack-moving every unit to the player's base as soon as it's built). 5) can it be large scale? (I don't care at all about PVP in RTS games. I think a good RTS shines in comp-stomp with friends, and if the scale is too tiny, there's no way to make the game feel epic, which is the big appeal to RTS games in general - which is why the comp-stomp sucked in Dawn of War 2 after the comp-stomp in Dawn of War 1 and expansions was soo good - it didn't matter that the graphics were better, when the maps are tiny and unit caps are also super small, the comp-stomp feels cramped and lacks the power fantasy).
@Solaris502
@Solaris502 7 ай бұрын
i do think the camera need to be pulled out just a touch, also visability on the infernal units between yours and the enemy could be a little clearer. also i think the UI could be scaled down a LOT more. i think between the UI being so big and the tight zoom distance it makes it feel just a little clasterphobic and like you cant get enough info. that being said the map feels quite a bit smaller then your standard 1x1 SC2 map.
@Villiscaband1
@Villiscaband1 5 ай бұрын
Even the victory screen is uninspired.
@Shmaffer
@Shmaffer 7 ай бұрын
It's the right zoom already. It's the same as it was in Starcraft II. Maybe nice to give the ability to zoom out in-game but restricted to non-competitive play. I think it would just be cool to have as an option for the player if they would so want it. I would!
@ComplexConfiguration
@ComplexConfiguration 7 ай бұрын
its already zoomable I think.
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