So I Watched the 3rd BLEACH Movie... | Fade to Black Review| First Time Watching BLEACH

[@tabarebruch6257]

Fun fact: "Black Rukia's" design is inspired by her original manga design, in which she would have used a scythe.

[@TimaeusShinryu]

yup back in the early days of development when Bleach was suppose to be an old western ghost hunting manga called "Sniped", in which only Rukia, Stark, and Kaien had most of their design kept when transitioning into, what would be "Bleach".

[@saketmeena9581]

Do not forget to read 'Unmasked'. A short backstory of Ulquiorra.

[@myfredo898]

I second this!

[@thewarrior8497]

@@saketmeena9581 i third this!

[@sanddry738]

Yeah it’s a fascinating look into his origins, character, and philosophy

[@nxtkartik-r4b]

Can't wait for Ichigo vs Ulqiuora review 🫡🌚

[@agamotto5354]

Working hard on it, there’s just a lot to get into haha but SOON.

[@nxtkartik-r4b]

@@agamotto5354 I was jumping over my bed back then , when I watched it myself 😆

[@BasedEngineer]

I'm also looking forward to his reaction to that fight.

[@spiderdude2099]

@@agamotto5354hope it ends up nice and juicy ;)

[@connoro9945]

​@@agamotto5354 kurosaki kun

[@kevinbell5674]

The reason Ichigo is made to remember Rukia first, beyond just him being the MC, is that the director of Bleach animation during this era is infamously known as a hard Ichigo and Rukia shipper who would constantly try to recontextualize their relationship as a blooming romance. As far he is concerned, Ichigo was the absolute most important man in Rukia's life, beyond even Renji and Byakuya.

[@thewarrior8497]

Lets gooo! Now just Bleach Hellverse movie to review

[@muchoyurdem5260]

And possibly a new one.

[@UnityStars26]

Hearing you talk about Kons involvement in this movie, I hope that when you finish the main story for bleach you go back to watch the major filler arcs specifically the zonpaktou rebellion arc and gotei 13 invading army arc.

[@sanddry738]

Seconded! Seeing his opinions on the filler arcs would be really interesting

[@AlexSalvatore00]

The gotei 13 invading army ❤

[@ScarGus]

This was actually the first Bleach movie I've seen as a child. I saw a DVD in a store as an 8 year old and BEGGED for my parents to buy it but they said that it could probably be found at home so I trusted them and they actually found it. Absolutely loved it.

[@myfredo898]

Incredible that they opened the movie with Mayuri loosing his mind and Mayuri vs Kenny! Im suprised you didn't bring it up directly.

[@varsoonhks3211]

What worked for me with this one was just how uncanny it was seeing Rukia with these characters that feel like intruders upon her life. I do like the walk down memory lane with Ichigo having to confront many of the major Soul Society antagonists again and under a different light. While I agree that the emotional climax could have been wrapped much neater, the movie as a whole has some fantastic action scenes and is a pleasant reflection on the Soul Society arc. We really feel the gravity of Ichigo and Rukia's effect on the world around them. In a lot of ways, this felt like a companion piece to Memories of Nobody--a contemplation on what the world would be like if you never existed and nobody remembered you. While Memories of Nobody is decidedly more tragic, Fade to Black presents an optimistic outcome. Both movies center their focus on loss and memory, which are hugely important to BLEACH and its overarching themes. After all, Ichigo's driving motivation is borne of the loss of his mother and how he remembers her and the moments of her death. As for smaller, less obvious connections that I liked in this movie--the whole naming of the friends holds massive significance given the importance of names within BLEACH. To give something a name is to give it an identity and a form all its own. You've already seen how false names for Shikai can significantly affect their form and how Ichigo recalling Zangetsu's name from the depths of his soul is what let him manifest his blade. The same is true of Kido, where at least the name must be spoken to make real its effects, and, moreover, we see how a specific preamble chant heightens those effects. Release commands, too, for Zanpakuto, are unique and valuable in ushering in a change to reality, a manifestation of the 'self' that is the blade. Memories of Nobody sees Senna's name forgotten and her existence follows suit. Fade to Black shows us how having even just the names of the dead allow us to remember and hold some piece of them, even if they are physically no longer with us. Finally, it's been mentioned in other comments, but there are early Rukia designs where she uses a scythe, so it's interesting that this memory retcon of a past that truly never was has her return to a weapon she was evoked to have but never came to pass with the canon timeline. Something similar does happen with Senna down the line, far far far later, but it is interesting how these non-canon movies touch upon, interact with, and influence the canon of the manga to come.

[@saruidol]

I never found most of the BLEACH movies to move my heart in any particular way (especially compared to the original work of the manga), which was contributed by the feeling that the characters sort of just felt off to me. It's really interesting seeing someone else talk about these movies.

[@buglifesmatter]

In the defense of the Bleach movies 2 and onward, it's pretty much impossible to compare to "Memories of Nobody"

[@jrgenvellesen7800]

Always fun to hear your thoughts on the Bleach movies!

[@almightygod2144]

Memories of Nobody is the best movie.

[@manuelacosta9463]

I honestly like KON for his uncompromising moral code/philosophy regarding the sanctity of life and the right to live for both himself and others. He was made to be a weapon by people for whom killing or giving the order is as easy as yawning, yet after being declared useless and condemned while surviving by a fluke as other mods met their ends he changed and became the opposite. It's a shame this aspect of his character has been disregarded, more so since only he and Orihime hold true to these values.

[@josora1654]

I'd say the reason Renji's ties to Rukia weren't explored more was cause studio pierrot quite loves the Ichigo/Rukia pairing - at least a few head honchos of the production does. It's a bummer that that's how that cookie crumbled but they have a history of doing that kinda shit with Orihime, Sakura and such

[@stefangirbea982]

Just something to keep in mind when you eventually watch the fourth movie, Hell Verse: Kubo has personally disavowed any credit for the fourth movie. In a letter attached to a special limited edition of the Hell Verse DVD, he stated that all the ideas that he discussed about being put in the movie were never communicated to higher-ups, therefore most if not ALL of what you see in Hell Verse is not canonical, from movie plot to portrayal of Hell, etc. Wanted to say this just so you are informed when you talk about it.

[@saketmeena9581]

I will recommend last filler arc if you really want to see some good choreography of Bleach which unfortunately exists only in this filler. Not even in canon. Last episode with proper sad ending. Although this filler arc also have some issues. But overall, I will say its action and drama is worth watching. Especially action.

[@TealeafRogers]

The only thing I remembered about this movie was the unique intro for the 9th anime intro 'Velonica' advertising it.

[@javilepero]

Back in the first bleach concepts the series was called Snipe, and every shinigami used guns while Rukia was the protagonist and she used a scythe

[@marcus7984]

The next movie has so much extra material. A novel, an anime episode, an interviews by Kubo himself.

[@Mira-cchi]

My favorite. The order is 3 ) 4 ) 1 ) 2. I love the action scenes, like Ichigo and Renji fighting together and Urahara using his shikai

[@matiaspereyra9392]

maybe it does make a bit more of a sense that Ichigo instantly remembers her because even though, yes, you could say that renji had more time with her and so did Byakuya and the emotions they had tied to her were pretty strong, even though her brother doesn't really show it much. for Ichigo Rukia was someone that shook his world in a way that the it seemed unshookable he knew ghosts were a thing but she gave him access to something else, she gave him power to save his family and friends, to be the protector he always aspired to be and you know maybe even most importantly to him she gave him power to fight the thing that killed his mom (tho he's unaware that the fisherman is donesky, guess he nit getting closure with that) and while probably she had more of an effect on Renji's life overall we as people tend to have in the forefront of our mind people who radically impacted us in the shortest amount of time (positively or negatively)

[@chainsofscarlet9054]

It actually makes sense if the siblings spiritual pressure was greater than the hollow's that they would be in control but still lose portions of their memory.

[@ozdaartist3106]

I’m confident you’ll love the 4th movie

[@jeandzwieleski8151]

Let's Go!!!!!!

[@XanderKaine]

I forgot this existed until you went and made this video lol. I remembered the other two but not this one

[@сахасахович-п2и]

I highly recommend you to watch 299 episode before watching fourth movie since it's a direct prequel to it that'll make movie plot more understandable

[@bleachbleachBLEACHER]

Several of your comments about this movie just make me REALLY excited for when you eventually watch some of the filler arcs. Especially the last of the filler arcs.

[@sanddry738]

This movie is a fun watch, but yeah, some of the really interesting themes. Just don’t really hit as hard. Still the music score is Godly as expected from bleach

[@bodes_26]

I really liked the idea of the main villians had a very unique almost parasitic type of hollow within them

[@coegroachcoegroach4796]

If you could add one movie to the cannon what would you think it would be. Just a fun question id like your opinion on

[@dgalloway107]

This is my favorite Bleach movie.

[@saketmeena9581]

I will recommend you watch hell movie too now. Why? Because there is not anything required left to watch in canon series for hell movie. And Ulquiorra vs Ichigo scene is very fresh at this time in your mind.

[@ryanfrewin7722]

Bro, I was asleep 💀

[@urtoryu_dy_althraidn]

SPOILER WARNING FOR AFTER THE END OF THE ARRANCAR ARC (If your name is Agamoto, don't read): You know, I haven't watched the movie, but according to this summary, this whole memory plot is kinda sounding like a worse variant of the Fullbringer arc.

[@jamesthorpe6684]

when you talk about ulquiorra vs ichigo cover the anime too

[@D4rkn3ss2000]

Its been ages since I've watched this Bleach movie and to be honest, the only things I remember from it are The fantastic animation it had and how 👌 the female sibling's thighs are 😎

[@dakotadoyle7573]

Didnt Urahara put hos coat back on because Mayuri went more insane then usual and was asked to fill in?

[@Farfan1900]

Siblings after death from hollow were sent to hueco mundo as part of reincarnation cycle. Its not explained anywhere beacuse reincarnation is so basic knowlegde for japanesse like christianity for europeans or americans. Soul transfers after death to diffrent dimension depending of its power level, soul depravity or source of death. entinity killed by hollow goes to hueco mundo or beacame absorbed by hollow. Sibling were supposed to be absorbed but beacouse of their grudge or will to do some unfinished thing they (how it would eplain white) beacme king and took control over fusioned body.

[@TealeafRogers]

None of the movies are canon. Please refer to Klub Outside Q&A question 127 as Kubo outright states that these movies are parallel stories.

[@aminemakraz8660]

please watch the zanpakuto rebillion arc

[@saketmeena9581]

Unfortunately it can't be fitted in canon story if we wanted to. But last filler arc can be.

[@saketmeena9581]

There are many boring battles in this arc. Painful to watch. Although there are some good battles and worth watching funny scenes, but it is interesting enough to watch only when watcher have finished canon material.

[@aminemakraz8660]

@@saketmeena9581 tbf not all the battles are equally great but most of them are and it also shows how each soul acts and feels about their respective holders, the protagonist is a unique and interesting one it might not be great on every aspect but it's definitely worth the watch

[@bleachbleachBLEACHER]

He plans to react to all the filler arcs after finishing the manga.

[@aminemakraz8660]

@@bleachbleachBLEACHER not a brilliant move if you ask me cuz when you do that you first will be confused of why don't a character do this move or technique while actually they haven't achieved it yet, it also kills the hidden intentionally hidden details and plot twists u just can't be surprised by something if you know what's up already. idk about y'all but i personally like to watch things in the right order as the mangaka and studio meant them to be

[@xegin1572]

Here's how each movie relates to the Canon: Memories of Nobody: confirmed as part of the main canon The Diamond Dust Rebelion: confirmed to be a separate story not part of the main canon Fade to Black: interesting case, while it's very likely not part of the main canon, you could actually debate wether it was actually confirmed to be non-canon or not The Hell Verse: confirmed to be a separate story not part of the main canon

[@uraharakisuke1329]

The concepts from Memories of Nobody are canon, like the Valley of Screams etc. But the canonicity of the story itself is unconfirmed. You could make a case for it being canon but I don't think it's that convincing.

[@xegin1572]

@@uraharakisuke1329 Ichigo litteraly states he's been to the Kogyoku, Kubo litteraly advise to go watch the movie in the same chapter. There's also a reference to the Ryodoji clan (aka the Dark Ones) in CFYOW.

[@TealeafRogers]

None of these movies are canon

[@TealeafRogers]

The entire reason why we got a Hell chapter one-shot was because Kubo didn't like the Hell movie, and removed it as a canon event.

[@xegin1572]

@@TealeafRogers Re read chapter 627

[@saketmeena9581]

Do not consider idea of hell from hell movie as Tite Kubo will or may create in future.

[@matiaspereyra9392]

15:06 my poor guy can't get a win, his movie? Ass, his matches? The best he performed was against gin so far up to where you're at, even if he did win against that one fracción he couldn't even win with style, aizen clapped his ass instantly, his best friend? Clearly still unwell, not a good W in sight so far

[@sirDeI]

movie 4 is so bad imo. only action

[@влад_ярославцев]

This movie is the weakest in the franchise tbh

[@saketmeena9581]

For me, it was second best.

[@saketmeena9581]

No movie is canon except first one is or maybe it isn't.🥲😅.

[@xegin1572]

The first movie is canon, I mean there's an explicit reference to it in the manga, if that doesn't confirm it as canon I don't know what would.

[@saketmeena9581]

OK 🆗

[@WiqidBritt]

@@xegin1572 Just because certain elements of the movie become canon doesn't mean the whole thing is. The zanpakuto spirit filler arcs aren't canon but Kubo uses some of the designs in later canon.

[@caseyhart4999]

None of the movies are canon. Yes they make one single passing reference to the valley of screams in tybw but there is no place in the canon timeline that the events of that movie possibly could have happened lol.

[@xegin1572]

@@WiqidBritt Re-read chapter 627, Kubo didn't just reuse certain elements, but mentionned the events of the movie, with Ichigo saying he's already been to the Kogyoku (with a depiction of it that's the one from the movie). On top of that the bonus panel at the end of the chapter (the ones Kubo adds for the volumes releases) is a depiction of the Kogyoku with an invitation to watch the movie for more informations. In just a single chapter we have references to lore elements and events from the movie, and on top of that we're litteraly told to go watch it, if that's not making it canon I don't know what would.