So Riot is making a NEW Card Game...

[@namelast7179]

Hopefully they make an online card game about it :)

[@pamonja4301]

I have no idea why they dint do that in the first place, if they want this to be a successful game they will have to do it eventually

[@Shinyolo]

Imagine an online pvp card game about LoL's characters, that would be FIRE !!! ...

[@7NrG]

AND! They should probably make it explore league more! Maybe even the Runeterra itself!

[@aadxyy]

just play lor bro

[@tuankietnguyen9714]

​@@aadxyy Jokes on you man

[@Esemae]

This feels fan made

[@mandragorius9637]

especially because they use the lor card art, it feels like back in the day when kids screencapped frames of yugioh to make their fan archetype

[@Hahahahaaahaahaa]

Have you seen fanmade? This is WAY worse than that.

[@nguyenquangminh5296]

@@Hahahahaaahaahaa the fanmade is not even look cheap like this. Lets just hope those cards are prototype and they will change it later.

[@aliceplanque]

It's even the same art than LoR 😭

[@TheLangenator]

It's all just recycled assets from all their other games

[@MildlyInterested_]

they just took the LoR artwork and slapped it on a MTG card with new card effects

[@pizza87760]

Hearthstone did the same thing, but in reverse.

[@szymstone1173]

That makes me so sad man

[@Truth...1133]

Yeah they said it bruh

[@trooperscientists2000]

Things I like: It's physical. I always wanted to play LoR with my GF, who's crazy into MtG. What I dislike: The card design, the fact that LoR suffered for this, the weird decision to mix LoL and LoR art in ... unsatisfying ways. This won't save LoR

[@dieptrieu6564]

LoR is pretty much dead for the pvp at least. This isn't about saving LoR, this is about broaden their investment and portfolio. They aren't even the first one to do this. Shadowverse did it first and their digital card game still exist

[@tinminator8905]

@@dieptrieu6564Difference being that Shadowverse:Evolve is a physical adaptation of the digital CCG. Project k has nothing in common with LOR other than using some of its art. It is not reviving or trying out a new format for LOR, it is cementing that that game is dead and will never be revived again. (IMO PoC is not LoR, it is what TFT is to LoL)

[@nirvallasparadise]

​@dieptrieu6564 and that's the exact problem people are upset about

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@tinminator8905 Nope, it's still a different game. They may share a few similarity like key words and some mechanics. But the game flow and the rule is completely different. I'd wager the same happened with Lor and this Project K.

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@nirvallasparadise Which people? It's not like they are going to shutdown LoR when they launch this. Shadowverse didn't shutdown their online games when they released a physical one.

[@jakehr3]

White border always looks cheap. At least do silver border or do full art border if they can't afford black border. White border makes it look like playing card stock with some fancy art on top (which I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what they ordered for prototyping) I also think there is something to be said about the text box. You have these massive text boxes beneath the art, and most of it is dead space. If you aren't going to fill that with more rules text, then put in reminder text, or make it smaller without reminder text. For the Volibear example, put a description of what "Exhaust" means beneath the paragraph. Also, have the card name at the top of the card. I don't know why they have it at the bottom, but literally no other card game does this. Just put it at the top so that way when you fan out the cards, you can actually read them without having to do some awkward finagling with your hands to figure out your different card names. Look at 3:17 What are the card names? Nobody knows (not even the guy holding the cards). All you see is the cost (and I assume the pips below are possible color requirements to play the card, which implies some sort of color'd mana system). But you don't see the card type, you don't see the card name, and you can barely see the card text. There's no way the white border versions are what are the final product. There has to be a lot more QOL testing or something for them to be like "oh yeah, people should actually be able to read the card name rather than figuring out the name once they remove it from their hand."

[@KaiserMate]

I don't mind the dead space beneath the ffect since it keeps It open fornlonger more complex efectos. Nearly any TCG out there gets power creep over Time and hence longer effects.

[@HaloNeInTheDark27]

And if you look at older cards in tcg, ​you'll see many, if not most, look awful. @@KaiserMate

[@jakehr3]

@KaiserMate the issue is that when you look at first sets for MTG, Yugioh, and PTCG all 3 didn't just leave the blank space, they increased font size or added flavor text. If you want to maintain font size, then just add flavor text. I'm 1000% sure there is plenty of lore out there for any card to have at least a paragraph of flavor text added.

[@cris99x]

many card games have card names at the bottom like once piece and digimon (both with pretty much the same card designs as project K) and closest related one LoR lol

[@ghostkill221]

Really they should do gold border, the same gold that almost all of the Runeterra IP uses

[@methmeth]

For those of you who don't play MTG or haven't watched commander gameplay (4 player format for MTG), I would like to quell your fears about late game strategies. If fact, late game cards in MTG are generally dismissed by 1v1 players as "Commander Cards" because you aren't given the time to ramp into them in competitive setting but generally have the time in 4 player settings. This is because it is 1v3 for everyone. This means that the people who are ahead get targeted and turn into Archenemies. People who are behind get left alone and get to make deals to beat who ever is ahead. Again, in really, really competitive circles (they are called CEDH or Competitive Commander) removal basically isn't played because it is easier to help yourself win instead of trying to spend your cards putting everyone else down. So they play counter spells to protect their combos instead of removal. Anyway hope this helps

[@Bonlaws]

Did not expect a physical TCG from riot, also didn't expect to be wearing the exact same socks as Sunny, life is weird

[@FakeforFaith]

I've heard about it. I'm just excited to have a physical semi-version of LoR.

[@angel-memeroftheisles]

So wait. They gave up their fully functional online card game for.... This...? Seriously? THIS is an insult to LoR.

[@7NrG]

True. I truly don't get it on why they decided to chose to make a standalone game when LoR is there... dying, even. They could've just focus on it more and make it flourishing and boom, you could make TCG out of it. But no I guess, they just hate LoR.

[@younot593]

Lor is now a rougelike, they want a tcg

[@kaptainspam1978]

They're stealing its arts as well bruh

[@jaopedrorelesbeles]

I don't think so LoR is still getting updated but turned into a roguelite experience It wouldn't even be able to exist in the form of tcg since a LOT of cards have random aspects that are impossible in real life (generate randomly, target randomly, traps, etc) TCGs are popular atm and this will (probably) bring real profits to them in a way that LoR don't Really think this is just people refusing to accept new things...

[@glaadziu7346]

they had a tcg bruh​@@younot593

[@stargun7235]

What is riot doing 💀💀💀

[@cheeseistaken]

milking

[@DemonNo667]

The biggest format in Magic the Gathering is 4 Player Commander. It's more of a social game and is an experience that almost no other card game can emulate. Capitalizing on the social aspect is the logical step for a physical TCG. This makes me think that the card game will be at least somewhat successful.

[@trollingsoul3386]

no it wont. Art is ugly and mtg is from a bunch of multiverses so its not just jinx world plus many people liked arcane but they dont want to play it or have anything with it.

[@ZamrayzRayzoray]

This is fucking terrible, especially since they can't be bothered to use new artwork separate from both LoR and League.

[@ThatGuy9143]

And honestly I'm pissed they're not using Arcane designs as they're so much better than the LoL ones

[@siahronx7700]

19:16 this isn’t really true. Outside of card game community you don’t understand how much you are in a vacuum. 1/30 of my league friends have TRIED LoR. Maybe 1/20 of them know it existed.

[@cthulhuiguess1735]

That’s what I’m thinking. LoR’s failure might actually work to Riot’s benefit here, no one knew about it to know it failed.

[@trollingsoul3386]

@@cthulhuiguess1735 but nobody would leave commander for this garbage be real. esp when marvel is coming to mtg.

[@AirNeat]

People who are going to play Project K... are in the card game community.

[@berkerus_]

I am completely fine about this BUT these cards look hella generic layout wise. They really need to change it imo.

[@zekicankocatas7343]

I believe they will change it

[@Monoguitari]

Agree, looks identical to lorcana rn 💀

[@selfselected]

this looks extremely alpha, they probably were playing with no art and then mocked this up exclusively for this video

[@Monoguitari]

Should also note that having to pull art from existing riot sources means that said art will all be different dimensions, so card templating will be a little tougher.

[@TheRamenRider]

it is literally digimon and one piece designs

[@ElevatorIsStuck]

LoR found dead in a ditch

[@orleandrofeitosa]

To be honest, when the One Piece card game came out I hated the cards that were just arts from the anime, but they made alternative arts for the other rarities that are really beautiful, especially the manga ones, which reuse the manga arts but They are beautiful, so I think that if they use LOR's arts for the basic cards and have higher rarities with alternative arts it will be a success with collectors

[@Gorb-q4l]

fuck collectors (investors) 👍

[@Plight_]

Imagine if the millions they're going to have to spend on this went to runeterra. This has to compete against mtg commander. Commander has insane Collabs that pull people that don't play magic into the game. How many people outside of league super fans are going to buy this? This game could've at least have been called Runeterra. And Throw a game mode in LoR with these cards

[@melanie-l5e]

im with you on this, sadly this will never compete with mtg or yugioh, if theyd devoted the resource to runeterra it would have been able to compete well with hearthstone and other digital games

[@pyrojkl]

@@melanie-l5e couldnt agree more, it doesnt make a lot of sense to just make a physical game and hope it does well. At best they simply hope this is more profitable for the mtg/lol fan overlap and the time spent at printing cards is cheaper than paying to make continuous updates to a game that still needs to go through set iterations

[@salhour1124]

Sadly no matter how much money they put into runeterra it was doomed to fail. The game was simply too f2p for its own sake and while the game is good as a digital card game, they designed it in such a way that it's impossible to have a real life physical counterpart without vastly changing the original version. If they had planned the whole thing from the beginning then runeterra could have been the biggest card game right now. Riot doing this now means they're trying to finally fix their mistakes but they're two steps behind when it comes to the card market

[@Plight_]

@@salhour1124 both of those are simply false. With a large enough playerbase cosmetics and battle passes could easily subsidize development costs. This tcg could easily fit into runeterra as the new primary gamemode.

[@peacepham7838]

@@Plight_ You know how other card game make $ right? Do you even know that base on Riot blog post, only 5% LoL playerbase buy 1 skin per annual, and 0.3% are whales that cover 50% revenue. LoR don't have content for whales, and it normal player don't spend either. Don't delude yourself, "Imagine if the millions they're going to have to spend on this went to runeterra", this is such a stup1d take, LoR already down $100M in redzone.

[@WaveTheEmeraldDragon]

3:04 >backstabbing and betrayals Yeeeeaaaaaah....

[@theelectricant98]

Just trying to be commander i gues

[@nickg3371]

They gotta make the borders look better, also the thought of a celestial & Aurelion Sol physical deck does excite me though

[@caseysailor9301]

Snnuy will be a Bazaartuber by this time next year.

[@caseysailor9301]

from what I understand about LoR, it was doomed becuase the identity of msot generous f2p competitice card game was never going to make enough money to support itself. I think this will work because it's gonna make money, but I also don't want to play it becuase I only tried LoR as it was free and digital, with no collectors hype or resale bs.

[@sirensoulegaming4158]

​@caseysailor9301 that's the reason that was always given, but Riot never once tried to change their monetization model to see if players would bite and pay more money for the game. They never advertised it in their own client either. I don't think this reason works because all I see is that riot never cared for this game in the first place, that's the only logical explanation since they never tried.

[@AirNeat]

@@caseysailor9301 LoR failed because they didn't market it early enough. They didn't make enough skins, and the ones they did make are fairly boring. They could've easily made animated skins, frame breaks, etc., but they wanted to support lower-end devices. However, that's silly because the game doesn't even support Mac. The average cost for a skin is $7.50, the highest cost skin is $15. They could've made animated skins that cost $30+ and would've had high demand, but they wouldn't. That's why the cosmetic model failed.

[@clashcrafter]

it also looks like they used ai to create the video based on the way the "spell" tag for viktor's spell at 2:11 in the original video is messed up. it really just goes to show the amount of effort they're putting into this.

[@randomperson4915]

HOLY CRAP, YOU'RE RIGHT.

[@bunbunn404]

The thing about shared card art; Hearthstone did the same thing but in reverse with WoW TCG.

[@ThomasBD]

And many of the most famous cards from HS are the ones from that time period. I think it was a good idea reusing the images, they are one of the best things in LoR

[@trentgawd4292]

This is like nuking a city to build a log cabin in the ruins

[@chevoyingram9589]

A abandoned run down city that exists because they other city around it has to support it.

[@stefanbogdanov5017]

This will be their biggest flop

[@goggypoggy]

yeaah, there's no way they will be able to compete against MTG and Yu-Gi-Oh

[@stefanbogdanov5017]

@@goggypoggy Plus they are playing that multiplayer card for this game, yet league players are known to be extremely social, lol

[@herrscherofshrimps1451]

@@goggypoggy They dont need to be successful as either of those to be considered a success. Look at One Piece TCG for example.

[@moisessoloriosanchez1765]

Don’t forget Lorcana. All a TCG needs to do is be different and have something that makes them stand out. I am going to sell all my Lorcana cards to be the first with this tbh

[@hamdepaf6686]

yea, this feels like the higher ups at Riot saying like "LoR was a complete waste of money, but we want to still get something out of all the money we put into it. So we are releasing this "completely new" game, cause LoR was def not profitable enough. Like I feel there are quite a few mechanics you could make work in a physical version of LoR, just don't release cards that wouldn't work, slightly tweak them. And than like make some one time use code on every card so that it can be used to get the card you pull out of the pack inside of LoR. Boom, new thing for people to get into, collectables with great art, an already passionate community that would die to buy these and a direct gateway to bring them to play LoR. This seems like a no-brainer to me, and this whole project reeks of some passionate devs trying to still keep LoR alive or somewhat push for a physical release and this is the half baked middle version the higher ups where willing to allow them to make...

[@kamachan6170]

They killed the game, stab it by cutting the budget and twisting the blade by releasing this!!!

[@OakenTome]

A lot of LoR cards don't work outside the digital environment, its not just slight tweaks here and there. I think part of the goal of a new physical game is also to mechanically differentiate itself from MtG a bit.

[@hamdepaf6686]

@@OakenTome I mean you mentioned MtG, a lot of things can be done with token and counters. Perhaps I am too optimistic here, but I feel like a lot of mechanics could have been made usable

[@LoL-sp3wu]

I saw an interesting point from Neckrit who said that the money generated by this cardgame could help invest back in lor or at least use the new art for the card game in lor too. It's the only thing that I'm interested about this game

[@heroicskeleton1566]

Won't happen. They already were subsidizing LoR with other projects. They didn't want to do that anymore, and thats why they made the decision in the first place

[@thegoat9219]

My only problem with this project is that the cards don't look good. I don't mean the reused LoR art but the graphic design around it. They honestly look like something anyone can do in Photoshop in very little time Also for ppl that think these designs are placeholders, they wouldn't have hyped it up so early and wouldn't have said they'd release it in early 2025. The graphic design needs a biiig redesign

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

This is one of the funniest things they could've done damn. Brutal. Funny, but god... Also, ngl, multiplayer is hype but I *hate* the tacked on elimination ones. Things take to drag on and there's a feelsbad wait once knocked out. I think Lorcana might be the only one to pull it off out of the big hitters since it's a race rather than a battle royale

[@honukaiknappau3222]

I made cards for a game between friends and honestly it looks like I spent more time on my design than Riot making whack LOR

[@MrSzaman12]

Having focus on 1v1 as well as 2v2 and FFA is more feasible than Sunny says. After all Magic has the Commander mode (1v1v1v1) with cards dedicated for this mode as well as normal 1v1

[@MagnusMendax7]

I know what you're saying about LoR players allowed to be happy and excited, but honestly it's also okay to be upset. Honestly I've been playing LoR since the beta and have always believed it to be the best card game I've ever played, full stop. Personally digital card games can do things physical simply cannot, and to be thats super interesting. For me the reason why this makes me so upset is that it feels as though our beloved game has already been taken out back and executed, only for a new shitty pretender to show up wearing its corpse (graphic but accurate). You can't blame Riot for axing LoR, money makes the world go round and personally I'm happy LoR has ANY support at all, WW and Ambesa no level up or voice lines? I'm not upset I'm happy there is content at all to do. This does make me upset because it really feels like Riot have turned a cheap cash grab in the Chinese market into an attempt to cash grab world wide since LoR is on the decine. "Oh your card game we axed because it makes no money is dead? Enjoy this physical game instead." And to be honest like you said, if this was a high quality, interesting, TCG akin to Magic or hell even One Piece I'd be stoked, but it just looks and feels cheap. (TLDR) Feels cheap, upset that LoR died faster for garbage.

[@sarrormiki3363]

I have no problem with the recycled art. It's just smart, the art we have is already REALLY GOOD. It'd be a shame for it to possibly die with LoR. What I do have a problem with is this game being dead on arrival if there is no virtual option.

[@joshelderkin9592]

4:31 idk if i even trust riot enough to take part in this 😅

[@joshelderkin9592]

Mannnnn i still love lor i dont want it to literally die 😢

[@BlueYYu]

5:13 this is when the important stuff happens for those wondering.

[@tallergeese]

Black borders show wear and damage really quickly if you don't play with sleeves. Obviously, veteran card game players always use sleeves, but maybe this was done with the hope that they'll capture a lot of casuals as well, e.g. LoL players. (The Venn diagram of TFT and veteran card game players is probably a circle.) Even if they're talking about organized play and competitive players, I'm sure they still want a healthy base of casual players too.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

TBF so do white borders, frankly even faster then black borders in my experience playing MtG.

[@heroicskeleton1566]

Causal players dont play enough for that to really happen, or don't care enough

[@demon3203]

Online card games are nearly universally doing better then physical. Abandoning your online card game for a physical one might be one of the worst moves i've ever seen.

[@ValentinBD]

It's not worst, it's 100% money efficient that all. (Yes, it's sad, all for money, but I think the team are real lover of cards games so it can be fun)

[@Forever-ec8tm]

@@ValentinBDit’s not money efficient to sell a physical product over a digital one, how does that make sense

[@ValentinBD]

@@Forever-ec8tm in the two case, you invest money to make the game. In LOR, it's free to play, people can never give your money back. In Project K, you need to pay for play the game, pay for extension, etc... You have the guaranteed to get your money back and if you do well and to make more. In LOR, you make money by skins and in Project K (normally) you make money with sparking card like other TCG, here it's the same but in LOR you have the guaranteed to have what you want when you pay, not in a physical TCG where you can pay 10 times the price before get what you want. In every way, Project K gonna be more efficient than LOR because LOR is a great game where you can have all easily free to play (unlike Hearthstone for exemple). Edit : And I didn't talk about they don't need to pay artist for artwork because they recycling.

[@peacepham7838]

​@@Forever-ec8tmIn term of sell, a buy to play physical TCG is better than F2P CCG. Do you know that base on Riot blog post, only 5% LoL playerbase buy 1 skin per annual, and 0.3% is whale that cover 50% LoL profit (pre-tax and production cost). LoR simply lack what other CCG has, a predator monetization.

[@DBellBoi]

This gonna end up like a Yu-gi-oh situation (Been playing since it came out). They print a "SET" with a busted card(s) that makes/breaks the "META", EVERYONE buys the booster packs/boxes because they want to be competitive (so Riot makes their money back in droves), then the Re-sell market EXPLODES because they "NEED" the card(s) for whatever build or deck is hot at the time, then after a few months the $100s of dollars you spent on those cards, Riot drops a Banlist that makes those purchases obsolete.

[@NathanaelHayStratuss]

My hope is that this does well and it somehow benefits LoR

[@robodemon9594]

I don't know what I hate more. The fact they decided to abandon LoR to make a worse card game. Or that they refused to just change the monetization method in LoR to make it work, which then could also have supported 2v2 and an irl card system as well. Pokemon has made irl and virtual work together for years. RIOT GET YOUR SHÎT TOGETHER

[@Matsupitsu2nd]

Somehow everything Rito released in few months has been low quality, The jinx skin, This, Lor updates, Viktor in league. Did they really lay off everyone who turned low quality work into higher one. I'm not saying Low quality is bad but there are people who create work and people who improve existing work and later part got fired. They clearly made this because LoR PvP was doing badly and they had devs who are more focused into making PvP card games who had no jobs now.

[@Lynxtek]

Riot gave up on LoR just to get their greedy corporate hands on the infinite money glitch of TCGs, disgusting

[@trollguest3270]

Hey Sunny, you should really learn about how magic did their 1v1v1v1 commander. It works really well, also I love your content

[@jimmyvance1]

It would've just been cheaper to figure out how to properly monetize LoR. The physical TCG space is super saturated now.

[@Maposil]

Lor problem is the monetization, wrong since the beggining, the most spent money in cards games is for packs and alt arts, LOR dont have it

[@TheDanteBoots]

As if they can't afford new art for this tcg. If it's a 200-300 card set and each commission is max 1k each they would've only spent 200-300k on brand new art. They also need to get rid of the white borders and text boxes, it looks cheap.

[@SeanBoyce-gp]

Also, I really want them to work with the guys at Unmatched to release Runeterra sets for that game. It's a banger of a design that's already partnered with Marvel, Jurassic Park, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The league champs just make so much sense for such a fast and punchy game. Heck, I wouldn't hate it if they just licensed the system for a closed circuit Runeterra version so they could own all the IP and they didn't have to worry about Darius vs Sherlock Holmes matchup (the game is way better than the silliness it sounds like and the art is friggen nuts)

[@heroicskeleton1566]

I would love this so much. Unmatched is great, and I like having all the different IPs mixed in

[@flaym.]

As someone who only played LoR for the PvP and quit when they pivoted to PvE, this seems like a cool way to get a lot of the LoR appeal with an exclusively PvP focus Just not sure how easy it'll be to actually find friends to play with lol

[@SerPhoenix]

I hear this comment a lot, about LoR being impossible to translate to physical even though we asked for it for ages. So true! I guess that's why they never made a Shadowverse physical TCG. Oh wait

[@Yobamos]

Old Victor being printed on the cards will be his final legacy.

[@rhysmit4960]

They are gonna need some custom artwork/ full art/ holo/ promo cards like in Pokémon tcg. I have faith it can be a fun game. But people need a reason to keep buying packs/ booster boxes. I don’t think enjoying a card game is enough. There needs to be a collectors element to it aswell

[@majinfreecell]

I hope I'm wrong, but if I had to bet if this project will work out or not, with my life on the line. I would feel so relaxed knowing I would survive.

[@IMadeUpKear]

6:20 I, as a runeterra player absolutely hold a grudge against riot for this. The developers chose to work for the company after they pulled these shenanigans. They are not robots that just build whatever their bosses tell them to. I will never not be bitter about this and I hope it turns into a colossal flop.

[@kamachan6170]

Sunny is being too optimistic in this

[@Krashnachen]

I feel like the artwork--while perfect for LoR--doesn't fit a physical card game. It's digital artwork that that you're meant to open in full-screen and examine. The vertical frame of the physical cards often doesn't fit the artwork (which is a problem LoR also had sometimes when they were on board/mobile, but mitigated by the fact you could open them full-screen). The only way I was ever going to get hyped for this was if there was new and stylized card art. Of course that would have defeated the point of making a cheap TCG to capitalize on their huge stash of LoR artwork, so was never going to be. Seems like a cash grab aimed at the chinese market and I can only hope it will finance more Arcanes.

[@GoblinTinkerer]

If Runeterra was sunset for this to exist, I will 100% be sad and annoyed by it. To think they killed a game that improved on the failings on most TCGs of the past decades... It's tragic.

[@tottepups7539]

"like uno cards with a skin" :D hits the nail on the head

[@Atelier951]

Can't wait for the physical card game to fail. The TCG market is a hard business to get into.

[@prysmer7923]

yeah it's getting too saturated, and most people don't even play more than one tcg

[@salhour1124]

Don't see it failing tbh, it's gonna pull in investors and players no matter what seeing how big league is

[@fanficologist6621]

@@salhour1124 People said the same thing at the start for LoR.

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@fanficologist6621 LoR failed because of the generous monetization. They would be a big success if they follow the same monetization as HS or at least take marvel snap's approach. Shadowverse is a way more obscure OCG and it manage to be profitable for more than 8 years and they also released a TCG about 2 years before. So this is not a shocker that Riot is doing the same.

[@Shikafau]

I hate to say it, but my friends that are into League of Legends are online... you know, the game series that is also entirely online ither than merch.. I just... don't know who this is for. LoR players get hurt by this with blatant shift of direction. LoL players will probably keep playing LoL, and all the TCG players already have MtG AND Pokemon to cover the bases and there just... isnt really room for another to be a middle ground

[@clumsybearyt6004]

I know the video was about the card game but,the sock reveal caught me off guard so much XD

[@焼きたこ-h3h]

Shit feels like fever dream tbh

[@zekicankocatas7343]

As long as they care about LoR I'm okay with that honestly

[@eclipsebat3792]

They are not, they have long not cared about LoR anymore

[@fabiocroce1355]

bro thinks they care about LoR XDDD

[@IjustWantedToPost]

Seeing Riot reusing the art like that feels like a betrayal to all the current and former LoR devs, because they did all the heavy lifting creating the art and enriching the world of runeterra with new characters, places and stories and now that Riot deemed LoR a failed project, they're just trying to salvage as much as possible to recoup some of the investment. However, there's also a bright side to Riot reusing the artworks, because if they're sticking with the LoR art style, they'll have to create entirely new cards at some point, whose artworks will be compatible with LoR. So eventually Project K will take over LoR's job of expanding the world of Runeterra and creating new cards with new artworks, taking away some of the burden from the current LoR devs and allowing them to channel more resources into digital only stuff like level up animations or voice lines potentially.

[@joshuajellybean384]

On the bright side, in my opinion, one of the good things about this is the runeterra cards actually looks like cards now! Cause the one thing I didn’t like about LOR is that the cards didn’t actually look like playing cards they only looked like pictures with numbers on them while on the board. But now the art actually looks like real cards❤️

[@joshelderkin9592]

Personally 2v2 has never felt good in any card game for me

[@fajarilham5786]

its feels like doing something unnecessary just for hoping your boss watching you work correctly

[@Khandrake]

Ooh i wonder if we'll get someway to play online?

[@goldenox2424]

It feels like they're going after the mtg commander and thats the most exciting thing

[@unorthodoxhappenstance304]

Multiplayer (Commander) is the MAIN way people play MTG now. There is a better scene and content for the multiplayer style of play then there is for 1v1. Mtg even shifted its production to gear to the multiplayer scene. Riot knows this and has this in mind.

[@DraXCore]

They did come out and say now that they heard that people hate them and that they are going to work on changing them

[@SniperCecil]

This new UNO expantion looks sick

[@niklasmaier2664]

my biggest hope is that this generates hype and traffic in the league community towards card games and they stumble upon LoR when they start looking for one. but oh well

[@mega7758]

Focusing on multiplayer would mean trying to compete with mtg commander, which is the most popular format of the most popular tcg. That's a battle that cannot be won.

[@Raeffu1]

I agree, the cards look abysmal, sadge, was kinda hyped when I first heard the rumors about a lol tcg

[@E_D___]

14:40 my guy doesnt know how popular TMG Comander got over the years

[@bunnyhop1392]

This is probably placeholders just to test mechanics so they can aprove budgets and stuff

[@Valravn48]

im glad i own a printer

[@melanie-l5e]

my brother in christ Snnuy, trailer not linked?

[@abchacon]

I would love to see you making Lorcana content

[@machemique162]

I really hope that is just a sample and they will reveal really cool art later. Recycling looks weird.

[@sal_8]

I can't belive it. I hate Riot for this, How can they do this? It doesn't matter if they succeed, they have already lost my trust.

[@rygornspectre7142]

All I can hope for is that some of the revenue goes to LoR.

[@rubenbrito4166]

ok but will this have a digital version?

[@tjsuperwierd]

I always said if they wanted to make money table top was the way to go

[@geraldsambajon8253]

it's real that LoR one biggest mistake was not making the game a gacha where players spend for cards and rarities. I can only imagine how I feel if I pulled a holo Ezreal on a pack. damn I can't remember how many decks I have made around EZ my fave champion

[@bennie1079]

I WISH this game has at least as much lore as LOR has

[@girmontage]

maybe they are not focusing on the game aspect but the collection aspect of it

[@dawidg1403]

Pokemon tcg pocket is a huge success right now, I believe riot will do something similar

[@joshelderkin9592]

11:28 they might be booming but theyre also getting flooded

[@joshelderkin9592]

Only 3 may survive probably 2 and my moneys on pokemon and yugioh surviving not so sure about magic anymore 😂

[@peternagy92]

Nah, I don't think magic will ever die, but the target audience will change drastically and probably loose a lot of players too before having another big shift in direction. But yeah, in the coming years we will probably see a lot of card games fall

[@RenAki5]

@@joshelderkin9592 Yea, MTG likely isn't going anywhere. For the issues people have with it, Yugioh is just as crazy right now. There's been absolutely horrible formats for Yugioh in recent times, and people are getting tired. YGO also has a serious problem with obtaining new players. BUT, I don't see any of the 3 (Yugioh, Pokemon, and MTG) going anywhere anytime soon. I've dabbled in some of more fringe games (Force of Will), and they're still going after nearly 10 years, despite dropping the ball. Flesh and Blood has a great cult following, which is constantly growing A lot of the anime TCGs (Dragon Ball, One Piece, etc.) have also had a pretty solid following crop up of dedicated fans. One Piece especially kinda goes crazy. Cardfight Vangaurd has been around for a long time, and seems to still be going strong (Idk much about it though) and Lorcana has the mass appeal of Disney, which lets it exist even outside the cardgame and TCG space (similar to Pokemon). Ultimately, if Project K is actually a fun game, and isn't horrendously priced, I'm sure it'll last for a good while. Might not be the most well recieved on launch due to salt from us LoR enjoyers, but getting over that hurdle might end up giving us 2 great League card games (if Project K is good). Hard to say right now, because all we know is "Hey, we're making a TCG" and nothing about the actual mechanics yet.

[@joshelderkin9592]

@peternagy92 it might not die i think its gonna become more niche youre not keeping spiderman fans after that spiderman set and you have thousands of players that have been looseing intrest for at least a year the early sets this year were so uninteresting i dont think i touched that shit till bloomburrow

[@lif3l3ssgaming]

As someone whos more recently gotten into lorcana im glad you shouted it out. I didnt think id ever say id play a disney TCG and now i wish i got into it sooner. It maybe my favorite TCG to date its Ink system imho is so much better than MTG mana system. I am hoping this riot tcg is good and not good at the same time for my wallet reasons. But what happend to LoR has me very reserved about this.

[@Birkes3]

The weirdest thing is how they renamed some of the cards the took from Lor its so weird

[@tarriochu95]

13:35 to answer the question the viewer made from my pov: imagine riot shit the bed with runeterra, so much potential lost for a very awesome game, they cut support and reduce the team size and basically kill the main game mode (pvp). Runeterra players are sad because of this, and it happened months ago (like at the beggining of the year, around march/april). Now... Riots card game is on life support, they are doing the bare minimum to keep it alive and trying to make profit of it, no new pvp cards, no new expansions, all new content is for the pve mode that "most" people play but sucks the soul out of the game (the pvp) aspect. Then BAM, you see riot releasing a new card game (idc if its physical and plays completely different), its one of the final nails (of many) in the coffin for LoR. And fans are pissed because it feels like they focused on making an entire new game instead of saving the old one.

[@axelwarriorvs]

You say that it's unlikely, but I think it's 100% the case; Riot was like "our online card game isn't making enough money because our monetization is too generous and it's not available in China, how do we fix it?" and the answer was obviously "remake it as a gacha game and release in China" because that's how you make money if you're a gaming company

[@ricardogomes262]

From all the surprises i had in 2024, Sunny being cheated on by Riot surely was the most unexpected 💀

[@damionallen938]

I agree the art style department needs to be upgraded

[@pavelkostorek999]

I always wanted Yu-Gi-Oh physical card game but with Runettera art but this is not it.

[@bigidiot5881]

I don't hold a grudge, but I do think it's a really bizarre choice. Making a digital card game brings so many advantages - distribution gets easier, it opens up new and interesting mechanics options like Hearthstone's 'discover' keyword, etc. I can't see what would compel Riot to close down a digital card game and then make a new card game from the same IP, using a lot of the same art, in a physical medium. It's like shutting down WoW and releasing it as a board game.

[@anisaliu3443]

Big gaming studios just don't get it anymore.

[@chevoyingram9589]

get what? that gamers have no concept of what development cost. yeah you are right

[@dunlosi1438]

I'm not sure what makes them think they can make a physical card game work when they failed with an online one which is arguably easier to pull off

[@goggypoggy]

everyone knows it's gonna flop. riot already has a card game. they could have made more monetization for LoR. they still decide to try and build a TCG from the ground up. they will have to compete with MTG and Yu-Gi-Oh. they still decide to make this. Riot is crazy. I just hope the devs get their salaries.

[@E_D___]

I dont think a collectable product with reused art has a lot of collectable value

[@damionallen938]

I think of all riot games the card game is the only 1 that has ever suffered

[@messwithhelpy]

with Riot's balance history, everything they release at the start will be either overpowered or underpowered, people should wait for the second sets arrival before reviewing the long-term viability of this TCG