So the Springboks smashed Wales | Autumn Nations Series 2024

[@squeej3942]

From a south african, You guys are FANTASTIC rugby analysts, well done

[@erickdavid2412]

nah dude. He said rassie didnt deserve the coach of the year. hes a snake dude.

[@dg4900]

I love how positive you two always are and you actually sit in facts and analysis. It's so refreshing when you have major rugby media constantly being negative and biased/heavily opinionated eg. breakdown (aka meltdown) and incompetence as a duo in the rugby pod. Please keep it up so I can stay sane.

[@Joshua-Carr]

It looked like Wales kept the intensity up right till the end. That's a good sing for the young building team

[@AJakes93]

There was no intensity 😂

[@BaKer312213]

Lads i really like this new style of analysis, you both also sound healthier… Building this account can now move into the next phase. The inclusiveness to the entire rugby universe, nods to Zimbabwe, is your brand. Praise thanks to Izzie Falou

[@TheSteveChamp]

Loving these discussion type videos. Could listen to you both for hours

[@CatPlatton]

Absolutely! If this is an easier way for them to churn it out then they should absolutely carry on in this style

[@Jacques.Smith_]

Ditto

[@Treefellow1]

South African here, huge Bok fan of course, but always loved Welsh rugby, perhaps to do with the singing which we also love. You guys are the best rugby analysts really enlightening I learn so much about rugby from you. Greetings from Cape Town.

[@joelstevens6394]

Mooossssttteeeeeeeerrrrtttttt 🔥🔥🔥🔥🌭🌭🌭

[@randomlyfactual1943]

To the rest of the world, he is Moooosssttteeeeerrrtttt To us, he is Sous 😎

[@Kid_Senekal]

Our Xhosa rugby commentators also call him "440" or "Universal Soldier" 😂

[@nyashagonese8446]

I have successfully identified a kendrick fan 😂😂😂 who’s a mostert fan as well😂😂😂

[@RobertNgetich]

Picturing that Venn diagram of springbok fans who are also Kendrick fans!! 😂

[@gijstempelman9400]

Is this a Kendrick reference?

[@jairus1244]

Thank you for taking the time to put together such a well thought out video. Absolutely loved it , and your others. Keep up the great work gents.

[@mikecahill3989]

As a Zimbabwean life long rugby fan, to just find out Zimbabwe have gone unbeaten all year is a massive Triumph, it’s been a long road back from oblivion since the 1980s . Indigenisation ,affirmative action DEI, Transformation and a Ruling Party that cares little for The Sport or The Economy have taken their Toll , but hopefully we Have now turned a corner and better days will I hope return to the country that has a series win (1949) over The All Blacks. I’m really grateful for the mention

[@fkngeniuspappie]

Respect from a South African fan. May they stay as humble and loyal as you. I love Zim. You guys deserve a 1000 x better government than you have.

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

You're a Rhodesian Boet!

[@johanstruwig3815]

How many games did they play in 2024, and who were the opposition?

[@antonalberts9230]

Massive respect to Wales, they gave as good as they got and didn't roll over and let us just have a game of "touchies". The lads have massive heart!

[@ako8357]

Siya's comments on the Wales team were absolute class. I completely agree with him that we need a strong Wales team in rugby-they've always challenged even the best teams to up their game and it's clearly such a phenomenal talent pool. As you discussed in another video, the strength of South Africa under Rassie isn't just the coaching, it's the talent development and support ensuring that they make the most of the players available. Wales needs (and deserves) that kind of support and some time to rebuild.

[@Nutmanjango]

A sober take on Wales, i agree they are potential giant. Thanks gents for singing the Springboks praises. We as south africans need to realize this is our golden age and it won't be too long until other teams will be winning "historical victories" against us. The kiwis will know. The bigger you get the harder you fall. But what a privilege to be here now for the Bokke!

[@ad2040]

That would never be through lack of talent and players. Rugby becoming the number 1 sport for all Saffers regradless of race ensures that. The only way it happens is when Rassie goes.

[@jamesbestbier1246]

Beautiful comment. As South Africans we live in a golden age of rugby. I'm very happy I am alive to experience this, because it's freaking amazing 😊

[@zusiphesicwebu9196]

Great analysis as always guys. You always manage to breakdown and show us layman the tactical side of the game that we usually miss 👌🏾🔥

[@thomashughes7336]

We are struggling at the moment, but Dewi Lake is a bloody hero. That man gives everything, from anthem to end of game. This week I was also impressed by Botham and Morgan. I swear every other tackle was done by one of these 3 blokes. They've put their hands up in a very tough game. Overall I'm happy with the spirit of the boys, they fought till the very end.

[@DarceG-jh1ik]

Yes I have hope for your team, they’re young and will improve, the number of caps is telling - just have to keep hope and not let media grind you down…

[@thomashughes7336]

After winning no games this year, it can't get worse that's for sure

[@Upemm]

@@thomashughes7336Wales could win no games next year but I don’t think that will happen.

[@thomashughes7336]

@@Upemm I think we'll turn up at the 6N, at least more than last year haha

[@triggasoweto6734]

Your captain is the man.

[@JulianConstance]

From a Saffa, superb analysis fellas - articulate and insightful, and clearly a lot of time has been put into it!

[@andrevaneeden5123]

Love your work. Keep at it !

[@g_v_rvanrooyen5769]

As a Saffa we remember we'll the Pieter de Villiers followed by the Alistair Coetzee, it takes just the right coach with the same players to start playing a style that suits the players and then build on that

[@charlottescott7150]

Great analysis - really enjoyed the Welsh tries and the way that they didn't stop trying.

[@nicogous-x5j]

You guys is absolutely ripping it!! You know this game . Bokke fan, but also your fan.

[@daveroberts1]

As a Welshman abroad.....couldn't watch the Boks match....I am grateful for your insightful analyses and obvious very hard work behind the scenes. Thanks for bringing a cup of good cheer rather than a glass of despair! Cheers from Greece. P.s Can't but agree on the conditioning...when they ran onto the pitch I commented on some of the puppy fat that was evident. They showed so much heart throughout the game despite that.

[@knowmean]

Just subscribed. You nailed it with motzert. Great video 💚🇿🇦👏🏼👏🏼keep it up .

[@SeanMacRSA]

Wales put in a great account of themselves! Very promising to see for them!

[@spacetrigg11]

yay! more Squidge!

[@primachpepe8597]

saffa in sunny wales. I think this was the best game Wales played this cycle. Warrenball does work, because its based not on talent but workrate (as i understand it). These boys will grow, and if they get the conditioning and experience, Warrenball is fantastic in that it will allow for a moment of brilliance or for talent to shine, but its built off the base of tireless workrate and ultimately discipline. Captain Lake & both flankers, for me, had a fantastic game - there is no shame in losing to the top team in the world, but not only that, to face them as well as they did does require applause. from the South african side, Scrum dominance was evident, i do appreciate that the ref didnt blow immediately against Wales (despite them going backwards, they got the ball out). It is scary to think that south africa can field 2 world class forward packs + 1-2 more top level packs with the sheer number of forwards we have and can rotate in and out. In this test we saw what is arguably our 3rd string in terms of front rows and they put in work. Backline, fassie had a great game, Same with Arendse. Kolbe a bit quiet, but a magician doesnt reveal all his cards at once. Bit scrappy from us, but a win overall with great moments, such as Sous's line for the try, Etzebeth immediaetly passing to Arendse knowing the speed demon will outpace him.

[@johannesmathysbeukes8092]

Everyone keep saying the boks have such big forwards. This weeken we used our biggest forwards ever against Wales, yet we where only 1kg heavier than Wales. France's forwards are even heavier than the boks at more than 930kg. Plus, I might be wrong with this, but Wales backline was bigger and heavier than the Boks. We just like being physical

[@Mountain_Lake_Adventures]

Well ofcourse, they whales.

[@johannesmathysbeukes8092]

@@Mountain_Lake_Adventures got me there xD

[@jasonbuys172]

The thing about the boks fowards is that they are relentless. Ons kom heeldag maak nie saak wat nie.

[@charlcoetzee3358]

Yeah, I wouldn’t put too much stock in the published player weights. They are often outdated or even just outright lies. Players (especially forwards) have ZERO incentive to be truthful in making those stats public. It serves them to understate their weight.

[@briget3456]

It's the "biggest" myth in rugby that gets repeated over and over adnauseum. The size of the Bok players. In the game against England, you the team in white with the teeny-weeny tiny players, the size narrative got spun lavishly by the English commentators.😆

[@thenomad47]

Honestly, I feel Wales made a bloody good account of themselves against the Bokke. Like, they most definitely have quite a lot of potential there, they just need to figure out how to make that talent work and they just need some time to do that. They'll get there in 2~4 years at most imo

[@RusticTomato]

"they get a decent scrum" cut to a video of the scrum getting absolutely folded lmao.

[@marksmith6259]

But they got the ball away. Not many packs can compete with sa scrum.

[@mikezog1030]

That was the strangest thing watching the game - I really didn't think that Wales played badly and I thought that their defence was quite organised. But the sheer number of attacks and runs at the Welsh line had to end in it being breached at some stage.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

I hate how patronising it sounds when we say how hard the Welsh lads defended. But given the utter dominance of the Bok scrum - to the point of being muscled off your own ball even - South Africa was always going to have a huge amount of ball. With those being the rules for the day, the Welsh defenders gave it everything they could. Keeping the score below fifty against a team who probably had 66% of possession and made a thousand meters for the day requires an almost inhuman effort. If Wales can sort out their scrum - and I'm sure they'll be able to - then this match won't have another 30+ points difference. Not even a 20 points difference I would think. Also, as an aside, I think it's time we start using Malherbe on the bench and rotate him and Koch so that they can spare their bodies. Thomas Du Toit and Wilco Louw have got this.

[@citizenfish5899]

14:50 "they get a decent scrum -- Wales only won 3 of their 6 own scrums in this game -- this is one of the ones that goes best for them" *cuts to clip of crumpled up, airborne Wales front-row*

[@frankvandermerwe1487]

Absolutely top class boys, love it! Will has fantastic insight and I enjoy this format.

[@myronalcock4716]

Digging all the Autumn series content guys, thanks! Just a thought on the Springboks "biggest pack" - are we talking weight, height? Because on the team sheets I've noticed that the Springoks arn't always the heaviest or tallest (sometimes yes, but often no). I'd say they are the hardest &/or strongest (aka 'most physical'). I recall a game we used to play at practice was 'kopstamp' (Literal translation = headbutt) - a version of Red Rover that was just an excuse to smash into someone. The forwards loved that, the backs....not-so-much 😝

[@ad2040]

@@myronalcock4716 Red Rover is the foundation stone of za rugby... 😂

[@Somewisecracker]

Character. Well done Wales. Truly. The Books smashed them for 80 minutes and the Cymry never crumbled.

[@charlcoetzee3358]

Yep, like RG said…Wales are the toughest opponents. They never give up against the Boks.

[@Richythekiller1]

You guys are legend 🇿🇦

[@Upemm]

You could see the joy on Rassie face in the post match presser,but humble to. Didn’t get awarded coach of the year though ?

[@designmanagementconsultanc4143]

He and Gatland hate each other so this was an important game for him to win

[@Upemm]

@ I think you’re wrong , things are said in the heat of the moment , and I wouldn’t go for a beer with a guy I hated.

[@tinusleroux3846]

"they are the biggest pack" - is this in fact true? We hear it a lot, but the actual numbers often don't align with this perspective.

[@gjreedy9526]

Hmmm...it’s not weight, they just have a bigger presence on the pitch. Skill? Strength? Oomph? Rugby size? It’s hard to describe they just hit harder, run harder and scrum better. Bigger presence in everything rugby.

[@jamesbestbier1246]

Considering pack weights change every single test, and even between participants week to week, there's no real winner

[@Rugby-ski]

Bravo pour l'Afrique du Sud et aussi au Pays de Galles

[@jacqueslaubscher1800]

the Boks props are very good, but we need to keep in mind that the locks put in a massive shove behind them

[@HatAtHay]

Which is why losing Adam Beard from the tight head lock position was always going to be hugely damaging. Shifting Rowlands across and bringing in Tshiunza was crucial. Trouble being that Carter was injured as was Fender and Teddy and Freddy are far from ready for internationals.

[@louiserasmus8421]

Completely agree, my thoughts during the game was that this Wales team is going to become phenominal if Wales decide to keep Gats on

[@nickcharliekey]

Best rugby analysts on planet earth. You guys are amazing!

[@lirmeaney6255]

Me the entire game “ Stop, STOP He’s already deaddddd” ☠️

[@Pierre-v6t]

Thank you ❤❤🙌🙌

[@colynwyn1281]

I'm glad you saw things in that Welsh performance that I didn't. It was rough going

[@Formakiwi]

The Welsh defensive strategy looks a lot like the way Homer Simpson boxed: continuously absorb his opponent's best shots until their arms get tired.

[@CianMcCabe98]

And the Boks are Drederick Tatum

[@matthewsmogoane8038]

A Kendrick Lamar reference in a rugby video wasn’t on my bingo card for this year. MUSTARD!!!!!!

[@colsjit]

No its a rugby player called MOSTERT! No reference to lamear

[@MikeyVeeTV]

@@colsjitnah he knows, it’s both

[@Neophoenix89]

Never expected a Squidge x Kendrick crossover haha world collide 8:20

[@WillOwen9]

Kdot is the goat

[@Neophoenix89]

@WillOwen9 couldnt agree with you more

[@Foureye15]

I bet a lot of Wales fans went to turn the tv off during the game (I'm sorry that's a terrible joke)

[@colsjit]

No its a rugby player called MOSTERT! No reference to lamear

[@lowdowski5337]

Enjoyed the quick shoutout to Zimbabwe for unbeaten year!

[@svndile]

"Mosteeeeeeeeerrrrt!!" I really enjoyed that Kendrick Lamar reference 😂😂💯💯🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@AdamPerkinsPhD]

I think Wales did ok against a superb South African team. The young Welsh lads like Dyer looked fit, fast and determined. Given that there are also some quality Welsh players who may join the squad, I reckon Wales will dish out some pain in the upcoming 6 Nations to any teams that are complacent and take them for granted (Ireland and England especially as they are playing Wales in Cardiff).

[@EugeneClarke-ql7sv]

As a bok supporter, Wales just need to get the right balance between defence and offence and that young team will be one of the best 2027

[@RiaanLouw]

Mustaaaaard!

[@MrBreakdownBoy]

I would love to see the Welsh #2 Lake in the Lions squad, he looks like a unit!

[@lm_b5080]

reflecting on this year and the depth SA is building the question can almost be asked..what needs to happen to make sure they don't make it 3x RWC's in a row?

[@rosaxv5846]

Let world rugby change more laws...

[@francoisbezuidenhout4638]

I have just one question: how long has WG been training Wales? Surely, the points you made re Wales should be known to him as well as the conditioning factor?

[@Bennusan1]

I'm not a Gatland fan. I've never really liked the style of rugby he has coached. BUT I really hope he gets the time to rebuild this Welsh team. They showed a lot of heart.

[@ianfrost8425]

Hi Guys, please can you tell us why the bok pack is said to be so big, but the Welsh scrum was heavier

[@MakePerceive2]

Best wishes to you guys, must have a been a hard watch for Welsh fans. Wales will come up again

[@REL-420]

For a team full of debuts, Wales did well, and It looks like good things are coming for them in the future.

[@jonathanpanga1382]

Zimbabwe Hoye 🇿🇼🇿🇼🔥🔥🔥

[@herculesoosthuizen4066]

To be honest. As a saffa, I was impressed with Wales. They are not so far away from the Wales of old. They just need some time and support. Look towards the end of the 6 Nations for some upsets.

[@forwardpass2725]

I'm chuffed to hear Rabz getting some love here. I rate him highly as a winger but I don't think he will ever play for the Boks, unfortunately

[@thamimngqolo8910]

The depth chart has him way down the list unfortunately.

[@samwhitmore123]

Maybe one of Wales’ biggest issues atm is that they have no players that terrify anyone… no one is forced into biting in through fear (they also need to improve the deception in their attack anyway) but it does just look like other teams find space so much better than wales! When wales are attacking, it’s like there’s extra defenders on the pitch

[@nyashagonese8446]

Minute 6 : 21 thats a very awsome stat … why … because i think defensive chemistry is a factor many pple dont talk about. But I think they do , it often comes with statements like “this forward does not have many caps together or combined” like wales thats why that BOK team away against argentina lost, they went defensively understanding of eacg other

[@Baz-h9h]

2009 still for me. We won a Lions trophy and a TRC. Did have a poor Autumn though

[@thamimngqolo8910]

What's the Maxwane reference about? 😅

[@Jonathan-me9ek]

W video, keep it up.

[@hennoliebenberg5391]

Let me put it this way...I don't think any other nation would've had that scoreline against wales with a 6-7/10 performance. The way the springboks find ways to win on off days has become astonishing

[@chewieire8646]

What will happen first, Wales getting rid of Gatland or Canada getting rid of Kingsley Jones?

[@RiaanVanderMerwe-g7e]

I love Wales, know they will be back soon, we as SA was there a few years ago before Rassie, believe in yourselfs and those 6 nations cup will come back and a world cup is always so close for the Welsh...

[@andrewpittham4271]

Good insight

[@christopherfrancis6257]

Do we think the drama in Wales would be as big if we had Scotland's schedule over the summer and autumn. Is trying to play the big dudes constantly actually hurt the ability to gain some confidence which may have translated to finishing on top v Fiji as they've felt what winning Is

[@gjreedy9526]

Squidge for welsh coach! That’d be fire.😂 The analysis would be fire!!!

[@hannesbornman1045]

Springboks does not have the biggest pack. Just the best

[@NEBUERMIL]

LOL is MOSSSTTTEEEEEEEERRRTTT a Kendrick Lamar reference? if so, well done Squidge lads

[@colsjit]

No its a rugby player called MOSTERT! No reference to lamear

[@NEBUERMIL]

@@colsjit lol i KNOW it's MOSTERT, i'm just asking if the way he said it was a reference to a moment on one of LAMAR'S tracks on his latest album that has been regularly memed. 🤦‍♂relax bro.

[@jamesrautha162]

It makes me sad we've now arrived at the place where we get obliterated by the Sprinboks and we all understand the result was actually relatively good for us - we talk about 40 point demolition jobs as a positive - I agree that the lads did their best and should be proud but crazy to think even 4-5 years ago we'd be thinking of potentially winning that game. The speed and depth of the descent is scary.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

The dreadful situation you guys are in are due to long term mistakes made in the past. Fixing this will not be easy and it will not be fun. You guys are going to have to stay loyal, while watching this crop slowly gain experience and climb the ladder. I do want to give you somewhat of a silver lining, though. When you get the chance today, look up the squads (Wikipedia should be a great help here) of the following Springbok teams: - The team that lost to Japan in Rugby World Cup 2015 - The team that suffered our heaviest home defeat, 57-15 to New Zealand, in 2016 - The team that suffered our first ever loss to Italy in 2016 - The team that suffered our biggest defeat ever, 57-0 to New Zealand in 2017, at Eden Park Now compare each of those teams to the ones that won both the 2019 and 2023 world cups. Or the team that beat the Lions in 2021. Or the one that amassed four successive wins against the All Blacks. It might seem almost blasphemous now, but guys like Kitshoff, Malherbe, Etzebeth, Mostert, De Jager, Kolisi, Vermeulen, De Allende, De Klerk, Kriel, Le Roux, most of them suffered all those humiliating defeats! And guess what they went on and did. Yes, you guys are in the doldrums right now, but keep at it. One day the sun will shine again and a new day will dawn.

[@jamesbestbier1246]

The comment above. This shit is why I love rugby International rugby is about experience more than anything else.

[@rowanjacobs3018]

Who would you recommend to takeover from Gatland?

[@domstafford1894]

13:30 - You say Kolbe "can distribute", but this guy is a Top14 level fly half!

[@fohunter12345]

I didn't like how Gatland was under the cosh by the media during this year end tour. However, Wales could do better with a new coach, getting someone in like Johan Van Graan or Franco Smith, get Aled Walters in to sort out conditioning. They'll be a serious threat in a year or two.

[@UlrichHoltzhausen]

Wales, Australia, Japan. All young. The French are going to hit peak levels in 2027. This is a unique cycle for SA because it contains both continuity and change. Usually it's just all change, even after a RWC win like 2007. In that sense I feel sorry for Jake White. I am sure he would have loved continuing with the team he built.

[@brianodriscoll2725]

Been hearing about France being unstoppable for 5 years now and in that time period they’ve won one six nations

[@randomlyfactual1943]

​@@brianodriscoll2725I get so much hate for saying this, but the French are what we who follow cricket call a flat track bully. On their own soil, in their own stadiums, in front of their own fans, they are incredible. As soon as they set a foot outside of the motherland, it's like they get a 50% debuff. And they are not doing anything to address that. If you are a betting man, put money on France falling at the QF hurdle again in 2027 for a fourth time in a row.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Fun fact: This is the first year that we've been afforded the luxury of continuity after a world cup, since the game turned professional. 1995: Kitch Christie wins the world cup, but has to step down due to ailing health. 1999: Nick Mallet has a dominant team, wins a bronze medal at the world cup, is let go in 2000 due to a public spat with SARU. 2003: Rudolph Streauli fired after a dismal year and equally dismal world cup campaign. 2007: World Cup winner Jake White's contract allowed to run out for transformation reasons. 2011: Pieter De Villiers' contract not renewed after a poor 2010 and subpar showing the the world cup 2015: Heyneke Meyer wins bronze medal at world cup, but is let go, presumably due to the loss against Japan 2019: Rassie wins world cup and he is promoted to director of rugby with his partner in crime Jacques Nienaber appointed as head coach, signifying the first time that South Africa will have any kind of continuity coming out of a world cup until.... COVID. South Africa essentially loses an entire year's worth of test matches and when they finally play together in 2021, it's like coaching a new team.

[@lm_b5080]

reflecting on this year and the depth SA is building the question can almost be asked..what needs to happen to make sure they don't make it 3x RWC's in a row?

[@gjreedy9526]

@@lm_b5080😂 agree who’s stopping a team with 51 players? They could field two, three world class teams and I’m not sure which South African team could win?

[@5jacksonsjourney179]

Love the chat

[@dn822]

The I would have been more happy of Zimbabwe got coach of the year

[@hopeaguero7460]

Why what did they won?

[@dn822]

@hopeaguero7460 all there games

[@ryanroo6]

Costello looks like a bit of a wet blanket. Not sure if I’m just comparing him against Biggar too much.

[@rayred74]

Wales will get there - I thought they played well against us. Thanks for the great analysis

[@GeraltofRivia22]

I wonder what the scoreline would've been if Wales played like they did against Australia.

[@plpmito5519]

The reason south african rugby is so physically demanding is because they start with full contact. As a Foundational rugby coach myself the past year we basically did nothing but contact conditioning we worked bags for a month then it was straight into one on ones learning to tackle, learning to take a hit, learning where to hit. Most other countries that I've looked at either start at touch rugby or tag rugby with a focus on movement and hands which is SO evident when you look at the springboks historically having worse ball handling than teams like the All blacks who only start full contact at around 12-13 years old.

[@jacquie212]

4:10 are they the biggest pack? I doubt it

[@arnoengelbrecht266]

There is an old joke from Trevor Noah that goes if something happens in south africa ,everybody waits to see what Juluis says(south african politicians). I am at that point with you guys. After every game I first have to wait and see what you guys have to say. Keep it up

[@tsaki_titan]

Wait isnt Irelanad the best team in the world, like you said 3 werks ago???

[@jacobthomas957]

As a welsh fan, I am very sad

[@rayz_jf]

Man I wish I could be this positive in life.

[@etiennegreyling6190]

Springboks are hardly ever the biggest pack guys- can we please straighten that out. They are definitely the most physical, that’s their strength.

[@MrBoboiscool]

Rob howley remains a dire attack coach, nothing changes.

[@Boozecruiser911]

springboks have the best pack, not the biggest. smaller than scotlands in that game

[@19Marcin97]

What about Scotland vs Australia ?

[@WillOwen9]

Hoping to get to it!

[@19Marcin97]

@@WillOwen9 Thanks !

[@willempretorius6700]

You can't put this video on the background, there is just too much going on. Most comprehensive analysis oit there

[@atoms-to-atoms]

you guys should be coaching Wales

[@Fres-no]

Rugby is simple when: Everybody does their jobs!

[@mikezog1030]

This is not the worst Welsh team of all time - the worst was the one that lost by 100 points in Pretoria. I honestly don't believe that they are that bad and I think they just need time.

[@IAMMURAGE]

Mustaaaaaard

[@mohlodingmabapa5941]

It was simply man vs boys