So wait...what's really going on with the Creature Commandos? - Episode 5

[@realchezboi]

I saw the murder as a mercy killing, he grew fond of the nice lady, but his obsession constantly consumes him. The nice lady constantly pleads him to realise his delusions but he just can't, and understands the pain the nice lady will go through, understanding she doesn't want to be alone. And so he does what he does, perhaps out of incredibly sick version of empathy. He had someone he cared about and cared about him but he couldn't let go of obsession.

[@MinTyR53]

This was absolutely the case, I’m surprised so few people saw it this way.

[@Pickoffarwim]

All that for a women who hates his guts, if the gypsy woman was like 30 years younger she would have been prime wife material.

[@Pickoffarwim]

Which is such a shame, if the gypsy woman was like 30 years younger she would have been prime wife material for Eric.

[@deanospimoniful]

Yeah. That was my read. It's truly a shame that Eric is so obsessed with a woman that hates him because his flashback and his brief collaboration with Rick show that he has the potential to be more than just a monster.

[@ufuk5872]

No i think he just a literal monster that have a warp concept of humanity, its pretending.

[@jacktoma21]

I don’t know if I consider Eric to be completely without empathy. He just has a very warped and selfish logic. He didn’t just kill the old woman just because but because he felt it was a mercy compared to leaving her lonely and miserable. That doesn’t make it right, but it’s a bit more than Eric likes to kill.

[@cynthmcgpoet]

Circe transmitted false visions into Amanda Waller's mind. I knew from the beginning because Circe is actually the Princess in the vision. I will die on that hill because I grew up with the OG Wonder Woman and know how evil Circe is.

[@birukmulugeta5817]

I agree with you I think her plan is to make pokolistan the enemy of the US and use her army to attack the us

[@ryanhau1073]

Tho it is also possible that Circe revealing her vision to Waller actaul start the chain of events that lead to World War 3. Like a force associated with the American Government trying to assassinate the Princess can be seen as an Act of War

[@obi_oma]

so are you saying she wants to replace the princess and take over?

[@okay__.]

The visions might be real but I think her job was the make sure it happens

[@amekgomo5250]

I think the expert was killed after circe gave Amanda those visions just based on how different she acted when she was Clayfaces vs in the interrogation. Those visions were real

[@Articfoxgamez]

My theory is that it is a very elaborate set up, Circe is trying to make the Vision come true, but in order for it to come true, the creature commandos specifically have to try to, and FAIL to assasinate the Princess. So she has a reason to be angry at the USA and attack. Circe wasn't actually going to kill the princess herself, it was a setup and she allowed herself to get taken in, in order to set all of this in motion.

[@birukmulugeta5817]

I thought that it was pretty clear that was her goal idk why Nando is so oblivious and has dumb theories

[@moonlightillari]

The scratches on her face felt pretty similar to something Weasel could do, so that seemed to be the direction they were heading in, but now I'm worried about Weasel :c

[@ryanhau1073]

That makes a lot of sense

[@alecshaffer]

This was what I took from it… stories involving seeing into the future often leads the characters to cause said future in their efforts to stop it.

[@seeleunit2000]

Which I buy but it's a dumb thing to do. This is going far and out of your way to fulfill a self-fulfilling prophecy. Seriously, this sounds like a plot that they could have avoided if Circe had not done anything

[@TheMengoMango]

I think that MacPherson was killed afterwards. Mainly because MacPherson correctly pronounced Themyscira. While Clayface kept saying Thee-myscira.

[@amandadeloff4278]

Totally! Imagine for a moment, when she was talking to waller about the vision and she says "the island full of LESSSSBBBIANSSSS!" Completely out of place for the character at that moment. The first scene with her vs that classroom scene? So wildly different

[@christianmurray4827]

Great catch

[@Getwright-]

Rick flag is dead again. Time to bring in his dad a guess, Rick flag senior senior (maybe he spells his name rikk)

[@johnwerner69]

I don’t think he is truly dead

[@cademacleanYT]

Can’t be right since he’s in Superman

[@Jaysin412]

He's definitely not dead, he's in the live action superman movie.

[@cademacleanYT]

@@Jaysin412 yup

[@Reyna_Amaturi]

He's in Peacemaker season 2 and Superman, which are events that happen after Creature Commandos

[@connermcgraw7116]

James Gunn has always valued themes and builds the story around it. Whatever the plot of this show is, i am thoroughly enjoying the theme of “appearances do not make the man or woman”

[@Rysuko1]

I commented this before but ,isn't it weird how the professor in this episode pronounces Themyscira as "Tim-is-kira" multiple times, while in the previous one when she's with Waller she pronounced it as "Them-is-kira".

[@justaghostinthesea]

I like this theory, and I've seen it floating around a little, but I think we're forgetting that Clayface is an actor by profession. I think it more likely is that he was brought on specifically to convince Waller to kill the princess, and after that was basically allowed to do whatever he wants. And that would also explain his behavior in the college, since he basically has a new lease on life, away from Gotham and Batman.

[@ethankillion786]

Clayface playing an Xbox. Never thought I'd see that.

[@ClayCampbell]

My theory is that Amanda Waller is playing the long game to get task force x re-established by pinning the the damage done to polkistan on the Creature Commandoes and season 2 will be a CC VS SS

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I’m down with that

[@ClayCampbell]

@ To me it’s way too much of a coincidence that Amanda sent the bride to the country she was born in.

[@cartoonishidealism582]

Let’s not call it the SS lol

[@ClayCampbell]

@@cartoonishidealism582 Oh shit lol

[@danyul4u186]

@@cartoonishidealism582gi robot is gonna put himself back together after hearing that

[@vanlooney2012]

Eric Frankenstein is a great example of high intelligence, low wisdom. Knows a lot of things, but doesn’t understand why things are important or understand people

[@ItsIntelligentDesign]

I think there’s a much simpler explanation for Circe: the vision is true, but the part we (and Circe) don’t see is that it’s the Creature Commandos trying to kill the princess that causes the vision to come to pass. McPherson told Waller that clairvoyants don’t choose what moments of the future they see - I’m willing to take this as truth. So what that could mean is that this vision only comes true if the Commados try to kill the princess, since it shows Waller once again choosing to assume the worst of people leading to the worst possible outcome

[@danielwright3929]

The problem with attempting to prevent something that may happen in the future is that the act of preventing it actually ends up fulfilling the reality of the prediction. If they left the Princess alone then that future would not occur.

[@patrickk___]

Flag will be alright too, he’s not dead as he’s in Superman and Peacemaker. Frank will probably be sent to find the Creature Commandos. And The Bride will probably gain respect for Frank although they won’t be together I don’t think at least not yet.

[@ryanhau1073]

I wonder why Circe needs a Simpcel Army, like in theory she could take on armies herself, and if she needs minions she could conjure loyal beastmen. On the creative side, I guess the Simpcels might be comentary on Gunn's own experiences

[@alphabetsoup6837]

I’m leaning towards the fact they are an easy to manipulate group coupled with Gunn inserting his own social commentary

[@muchanadziko6378]

Why does it seems to you like Clayface is dead? He’s clearly just unconscious

[@yeahhh936]

A thing I’d like to add is that Circe did spare the bride and fish lady when she could’ve easily killed them in ep 2, she didnt even lay a trap for the rest of the creature commandos. The diversion was going to happen regardless, and it wasn’t until GI robot went ham that she started using lethal force.

[@nandorios4503]

There's only 1 Nando...an that's me!!!!

[@thenandocut]

imposter!

[@Juxie27]

If nando is left pondering then you know it’s peak

[@birukmulugeta5817]

its peak but bro just got too dumb the idea was pretty clear

[@obi_oma]

@@birukmulugeta5817 enlighten us

[@thezx5795]

Dude is over-thinking it. Or not thinking enough? Either way it's just clay-face working with circe

[@birukmulugeta5817]

@@thezx5795 What I got from watching the show is they have their own proto Legion Of Doom and are using the conflict to make The USA an enemy of countries like pokolistan making the USA more vulnerable to attacks from the Legion and the person in the vision isn't actually the princess but Circe

[@sobermind9885]

My theory right now is that Clayface is actually working for the princess in a plan to try to create desbelief in CIrce's vision. Maybe she has a mole inside Waller's forces (or the Creature Commandos) who informed her aboutthe whole vision moment between Circe and Waller and, to try to discredit it, she went after killing the Dra. and putting a very obvious shapshifter like Clayface in her place to turn the table?

[@anklebiter2323]

I do have my doubts with Eric in Creature Commandos... but while I do think his murder of the old woman was awful on the surface... something he said before the flashback ever happened really stuck out to me... He was looking at all the cats and leashes, saying how "odd" they seem and called it an 'augery' or "bad omen", and that he knows these things because he once "stayed with an old gypsy that dabbled in the occult". And I could be overthinking this... but maybe there was more to the old woman than we see? Also like... I don't really feel any pity for Dr. Frankenstine. He literally was hooking up with the Bride when he's married with kids and the Bride isn't even mentally mature to understand much of what he's doing. She may as well be mentally about 7 or 8 years old by the time the Doctor does... that, with her. He acted like a father to her, but never Eric, and then just has sex with her when he's already got a wife... I wonder if he did it to spite Eric or had bad intentions with both of them we don't know about yet. Like something is really fishy here and I am beginning to wonder if there could be more about Eric they aren't showing us just yet.

[@IronShaman81]

While I really like your theory, I personally saw his comment about the old woman dealing with the 'occult' as more evidence of his quasi-delusional 'fantasy' outlook on life...we hear what we says, but in the flashback she was just a lonely old romani woman living in the woods. While there definitely could be more to that, I think it was likely just another case of Eric being...Eric. For example, he always talks about 'his' Bride and how she's 'playing hard to get', etc but the reality is she hates him, has always been freaked out by him, and just wants him to leave her alone. He was convinced the Bride had a thing for Flagg, but the two had barely interacted with one another. He murdered the pilots for 'judging him' for being unable to grow facial hair, when it was clearly all in his head. Over and over, the show demonstrates to us how unstable Eric is...not only does he constantly jump to wild conclusions, but he also exaggerates everything in his own mind to make them more interesting; he romantacizes things he likes, while demonizing things that annoy or displease him. I think they definitely had borderline personality disorder in mind when they wrote him. All that said, I find your observations are really interesting and you very well could be onto something...these are just my own observations on things. I'm also totally with you on Dr. Frankenstein. While he was not behaving inconsistantly for the standards of his time, by our standards he's a total creep and a predator. I feel like at some point this is gonna come up again.

[@epickpotato25]

@@IronShaman81Im pretty sure cheating on you wife with a corpse that has the mind of a child, that you created with the sole purpose of being someones else girl friend, would be seen poorly in any part of history, regardless i agree with you.

[@anklebiter2323]

@@IronShaman81 I mean that's also very true. It's why I am not 100% certain on it, but I do imagine there is at least some possibility. He does have a habit of having a rose colored view of things when it comes to his own desires, and he's extremely self centered. I just want to give him a bit more time to see where it goes at least before finally just saying "yeah he's a completely irredeemable asshole". The thing with the cats on leashes was just so oddly highlighted by the narrative so... I think there is at least some chance of Eric being correct on that point.

[@BeyondTrash-xe1vs]

I think Frankenstein is very much meant to foil the commandos, we've been seeing their backstories and how despite appearances they aren't really monsters. Frankenstein meanwhile seems to initially have a sympathetic backstory here, but then we find that his own obsession, his own sick self-obsessed world view makes him a monster through and through. He cannot be taught, he will not grow. He has wandered for centuries and nothing about him as changed, age is no excuse any more. His upbringing is no excuse, he's had good people in his life, opportunities to begin anew, but he cannot let go of his possessive nature over the Bride.

[@anklebiter2323]

​@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs honestly that may very well be what happens, I just hope they wouldn't. I find that trope just gets stale... plus it really doesn't make any sense to me. People change all the time and literally no one "never changes", even the most stubborn. Change can be for the better or worse. In the end it's all fiction, but I just really hope they would avoid that route.

[@davidtrainor9569]

I think Gunn's slow intriducing the Legion of Doom in DCU. Grods, Circe, Clayface....

[@DeansCartoons]

Don’t forget about Lex Luthor in Superman

[@datboimemed]

I think he was more then a couple of days old at the point he kills the doctor not really sure where you got the implication he was just born

[@Rose_Bride]

Yep. Several of his takes here are WAY off base

[@deanospimoniful]

I'm assuming Waller is up to something. She's always doing that 4d chess thing. Not sure if she's behind this whole thing, but she's going to use this whole thing to advance whatever her agenda happens to be. What a despicable woman.

[@Imad-gk1gw]

Her agenda is to have superhero’s more accessible and popular worldwide. This could be tied into superman, where tech companies are used to control and sponsor superheros, however superman is the only one whos a problem for societies newly written rules, trying to do whatever he can to do what’s right whenever he can.

[@deanospimoniful]

Pour one out for Alexei. He was a real one.

[@sirforbiddenstatic3904]

New dcu is peak

[@TraumaSandwhich]

I think Circe genuinely belives the vision and is a pawn in another villains game here. I think Grodd for some reason wants the princess dead, and he implanted a false vision into her head and sent clayface to pose as the leading expert on Themyscira to back up the implanted vision. I don't know what his goal is but I think thats whats going on.

[@moonlightillari]

I was pretty sure by last episode that Circe was going to use the Creature Commandos to instigate that vision, whether that was intentional or not. The Clayface movie could be set in the past, which would be kinda funny, but it's awesome how much respect these characters are getting that we now have a big budget Clayface movie coming

[@machuz607]

Thank you for this brother!!! You scratching my itch for this show. Didn’t think I’d be so intrigued by this show initially. But now I’m hooked

[@templebeast1324]

Or maybe Grodd si going to control the princess and Circe saw the real future but mistaken the princess for the main villain insted of Grodd. And Clayface is just working with Circe for money as a plan B.

[@krhodes866]

Is no one gonna talk about how weird it is victor slept with the bride when she was like a month old and literally his creation? Like Eric obviously has flaws and is clearly possessive but I don’t think it’s as black and white as it seems

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

If you look the Pokolistan soldiers armor seems to be the same armor worn by Luthors soldiers in the Superman trailer so perhaps he's tied up in this.

[@justaghostinthesea]

4:44 Clayface is a professional actor. He lives for the performance. And given that Amanda had never met McPherson before this (I assume), all Clayface had to do was sound convincingly professional, and that combined with Waller clearly being shaken by the vision, would have been enough to send the CC to kill the princess

[@ezioassassin2028]

Why are you so insistent that Grodd and Circe are on the same team? Grodd was the princess's general in that vision. Circe is actively trying to kill the princess to prevent that vision from becoming true. Circe and Grodd are not working together, they are literally on opposite teams in this scenario. Grodd is team princess, Circe is against the princess which by association means she is against Grodd

[@Jcline0128]

I believe clayface is a villian for hire in this universe

[@Getwright-]

Grant Morrison’s Frankenstein was such a cool strong silent badass in the comics. Like a warrior with the hart of a poet. I hope they dont change him in the comics to match James version. Like they did with starlord.

[@cornfield2120]

Comic star lord mostly changed because, for better or worse, Gunn actually made him a likeable character. Gunns Frankenstein, frankly, sucks, so I doubt their gonna do anything

[@Getwright-]

@cornfield2120 yeah but, just to be clear Starlord was already likable in the comics (read Annihilation if you havent) he just wasn’t a goofy womanizing manchild (but With a heart of gold) like Gunn made him.

[@cornfield2120]

@ that’s fair, I just meant he wasn’t a “generally” liked character. It’s his characterization in the movies that made him a household name, not his minimal and often confusing role in pre-mcu comics

[@adamaumiller1144]

Couldn’t Circe see a future where Clayface is the princess and he only takes over her persona because Circe kills the original princess because she sees that future? One of those self fulfilling prophecy type situations.

[@zachpasta9641]

I think psycho pirate is manipulating Cersei so those premonitions are real from her mindset and it would explain why the princess is going to flip on the world and be evil. Psycho pirate can manipulate how people feel or perceive things and act out. So a team of monsters who know and accept themselves will be able to see through the manipulation

[@realkosherpork9223]

Theory: The vision is real but Circe is trying to have it realized by goading the Americans into declaring war on Pokolistan and pushing it into the arms of Grodd for aid.

[@omoefeasiemo3601]

I kinda hate Frankenstein

[@IlliterateSophism]

My current theory is Creature Commandos is the sneak-prequel to Superman so the movie can have more punching, no one will survive, and the "second season" will be changed to a new series and was always planned to be.

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

I do feel like it's gonna be hard to continue with these guys at this point, I like Dr. Phosphorus but I'm struggling to root for the psycho now. They could just bring in an new squad of characters but at that point I'd want them to just make it the Suicide Squad again.

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

The moral of the story really is "if you want a DC spinoff all you have to do is kill Rick Flag"

[@samsonite7065]

4:44 I'm pretty sure Aisla was telling the truth, but Amanda had her assassinated to keep the future of the world a secret

[@samshughart3479]

this is it

[@HeyVagabondMusic]

Rick Flagg’s (Sr or Jr) brain is going to be put into Frankenstein’s body after the Bride finally takes him down. This was we get both Flagg AND Frankenstein

[@Getwright-]

I would kind of like that.

[@jameszetterman4487]

It really seems like they're wanting us to believe the princess is innocent. I think she's hiding something big. Probably not what was in Circe's vision, but still something that will need to be dealt with.

[@2muchteevee]

Nando...you weren't sure if the guy who was obsessed with his entitlement to a woman's body was gonna be redeemed or not? By James Gunn?

[@JackSparrõwRow]

I am enjoying this show alot!

[@ThanatorRider]

I’m of the opinion that everything Circe is doing is to make sure that vision comes to pass. She wants Rostovic to turn against and destroy the US, along with Wonder Woman and other US-based superheroes, so that she is free to conquer Paradise Island as she wants to. I think Clayface was someone she hired to sell her manipulated vision to Waller, and I think Grodd may already be in Pokolistan taking advantage of the Princess’s desire for rapid progress to advancer her country, and helping them upgrade their military capabilities (those purple blasters the amethyst knights use) to make Pokolistan powerful enough to destroy the US.

[@Chuckbuckem]

I like to see Frankenstein’s character develop through his backstory I like that there’s something just fundamentally not there in him that’s in other people he’s interesting because he is a result of one man’s hubris a man that shouldn’t exist

[@bizuko2307]

My (convoluted) theory is that Grodd is playing Circe. He wants the princess dead for one reason or another (maybe to cause an international incident, maybe to cause a smaller political shift to his advantage) and put the vision into Circe's head with his mind powers. When Circe got captured, he figured she'd try and warn people about the vision, and hired Clayface to replace the professor to ensure that people would believe her (Clayface is now just hanging out as the professor just in case, but isn't giving as much of a shit about keeping his cover).

[@demongodjoe2748]

Clay face is definitely not dead, he has a weakness to electricity and freezing cold temperatures they're very detrimental to him but they don't kill him, his regeneration factor is crazy

[@acWeishan]

I would say he is amoral. There is no right or wrong there is just him and his needs and emotions.

[@DD8842]

Good has mind control powers. He's controlling the princess. The army are Frankenstein like creatures because grod has Victor's notes.

[@MultiDreamz21]

goated, love your content!

[@W4totalk]

I saw this episode, even with Clayface, and thought exactly who was behind taking that professor out. I thought back to the second Suicide Squad movie. Waller seems like she may be behind it. I almost feel like Flagg may fake his death to bring Frankenstein into the Commandos. I'm more interested in what's behind the vision of the princess and who is actually responsible for sending Clayface to replace the professor and for what reason.

[@ThusSpokeFlexo]

Maybe Circe, Grodd, and Clayface are signs of a legion of doom are at work. The monster's thing seems like he's just emotionally immature, selfish and overly dramatic. He said he didn't intend to leave the old lady alone but also wanted to find his bride so is logic just came down to killing her was an act of mercy

[@dark3rthanshadows]

he will be on the team the thing is, this team is of monsters characters with layers but mostly bad people

[@ayyocool]

5:00 yes. That’s what I was thinking. He got the professor after.

[@009_Ghostly_Systematic]

I dont know maybe she's (the princess) circe's daughter and saw her a threat as she may potentially have or can counter her powers? Similar to greek gods and how petty they are lol.

[@GrizzlyMovieReviews]

I think Frankenstein is a little empathetic… like his murder of the old woman had a bit of mercy. Offing her is better than leaving her alone with the pain and heartbreak. Kinda. He still did the worst thing.

[@joeflood5727]

Pokolistan doesnt seem very advanced, which makes their fancy knight armor a mystery. Did they get that tech from someone who is orchestrating events to showcase it on an international level? Is this an elaborate arms demonstration?

[@SHLVideos]

I dunno man, I'm only really tuned into this stuff because I'm a comic fan, but this seems to be James Gunn just telling his own stories with DC Characters, not doing any homages or treatments of previously beloved stories. The appearance of Frankenstein keeps making me think I'm getting some Grant Morrison Seven Soldiers action, but that's clearly not the case, and it kinda disappoints me. This is too much Gunn, not enough DC.

[@ImGonnasayit]

Nando I just got dizzy listening to you explain the clayface/professor swap. It’s probably Circe just pulling the strings.

[@kbreslin7289]

You can put out a phosphorus fire with anhydrous copper sulphite powder I think.

[@Deadwolf27]

So I'm not sure but maybe Creature Commandos takes place after Peacemaker season 2 and Superman. Personally I hope that's not the case because I don't want the character to die but it's a possibility right?

[@lilsnaz6267]

Does anyone know if this clayface is the same as others in the new dceu? I know there were multiple in the comics

[@jeb4148]

Can anyone explain how the old woman is killed by frank in this episode but she’s the one who calls him up in episode 1?

[@Horltum]

I was thinking last episode when the professor said “she can’t imagine the future”, that like… yes. We all can. Wtf are you talking about.

[@austinlubetkin]

Circe needs to get waller to do it to complicate international relations. The princess is obviously scratched by weasel and survives and launches a war in retaliation. Circe maybe had a prophecy that doomsday or something would come with all the superheroes so she orchestrated a war on superheroes. Also it seems like in the superman trailer they were shooting at superman. Maybe waller goes too far and starts a war on superheroes.

[@AllWIllFall2Me]

Preface to this claim: I have not watched any of Creature Commandos, I don't have Max, I have only consumed the show through this series and like, 2 other videos, but my immediate hare-brained theory is that whoever is behind this, the goal is to cause one of two things to happen: 1. The Creature Commandos are supposed to attack the Princess, motivating her to enact the vision that Circe has revealed. or 2. The Creature Commandos are meant to foil a separate attack, probably made by the United States, against the Princess, in order to prevent the attack. Because it is impossible that they didn't kill Rick Flagg Sr here in order to have someone impersonate him later as part of a FALSE FLAG operation.

[@codyeasonBGR]

You have a point he should have hundred of years of experience he would be a better character or have better character.

[@buka.a]

I think the show is set in a bubble DCEU where events of Shazam, Peace Maker 1 and the other movies are still canon but by the end of the show there would be a cross over and that’s what Circe is foretelling.

[@muchanadziko6378]

Except that there is no reason to think that

[@DeansCartoons]

But we see Superman in his DCU suit in the show

[@grahambruno7654]

Waller used ClayFace (who could’ve been locked up) to tie up lose ends and kill her because she knew too much?

[@chris11420]

International conflict. That's what I'm holding at

[@alexwinchester157]

This really should’ve been a movie instead of a show. It’s 5 episodes deep and has zero pull.

[@ayyocool]

Experience being a person? The man said “if I were blind I would kill myself” u think he understands what’s goin on out here? lol. He killed her so she won’t be lonely. Not cuz he’s a mean murder guy. He thought he was doin her a favor. lol

[@davidtrainor9569]

That old woman was alive in the present day, we see her before we see Frankenstein. I think Frankenstein figured out the experiment that brought him to life and did that to Flagg.

[@3cookiess]

That's a different old lady she was not blind lol

[@ctkook6477]

Legion of Doom baby 🤘🤘

[@franknapier963]

Im not a fan of not having someone to root for.

[@joshmargolis1424]

Its a bit basic if circe just wants to kill the princess

[@267BR]

Nando waot didnt the old lady appear in pressnt day EPISODE 1 calling eric on her zak efron phone? now shes dead in a flashback ?

[@Tb0n33999]

I loved the phonecall scene. I busted a gut when he did that bit with Flagg.

[@ibelievegodexists4198]

TELL HER ABOUT ME

[@muchanadziko6378]

He killed that lady out of compassion and love, so that she is never left alone

[@spencermagon686]

Finished this one and was like hm wonder what Nando has to say

[@LouiseBelcher69]

Gunn makes an unusual decision. 1. Eric believed the old lady because the entire reason Eric was here was because the old lady told him he had found the bride. 2. Why Did Gunn kill Rick Flag? Despite his upcoming role in the new Superman film. 3. "So you are telling me Clayface killed a Gotham professor lived in her home, drank beer, played Mortal Kombat, and fed her cat. All the while, impersonate the professor for who knows how long and continue to work at her job, reassuring her parents that she is still alive, all the while the government has not kept tabs on this dangerous individual, and clay face bumbling in a government run prison making shit that could result in WW3. 4. G.I robot died in his third episode and there is no word on where he is? 5. Strange color mixing

[@DeathFORcameO]

I don't know about Flagg being dead, I think he is just unconcious, like Bruce in TDK Rises.

[@LouiseBelcher69]

@ ok what about clay face why did he do all the thinks he did?

[@nicovelardita8619]

Clayface is usually an expert actor and impersonator. I'm gonna assume he isn't doing this randomly and has guides and resources to keep the facade Also, GIBot is just gone, I don't think there's anything more to say about that

[@LouiseBelcher69]

@ so clay face killed her because of vibes? Also why didn't the government not reprogram G.I for other purposes?

[@nicovelardita8619]

@@LouiseBelcher69 I said "I'm gonna assume he isn't doing this randomly". How do you arrive from that to "he did it for vibes"? No, he probably didn't, it's obviously part of some plan, one that accounts for minecrafting the doctor, it may even necessitate it, we don't know yet About the government reprogramming GIBot, they already took what they needed from him. I suppose you know it because you're in this channel but the government made the Metal Men based on GIBot, far more advanced and powerful than him. At this point GIBot is but an old toaster technology-wise

[@stevencooper564]

I do you like comparing Pokolistan to Wakanda. Wakanda has the advantage of being isolated in the heart of Africa But what if when you revealed your high tech society, you were in the center of war-torn Eastern Europe. A lot of closer neighbors now VERY aware of your existence.

[@machuz607]

Also, anyone else thought phosphorus was was initially blight?

[@graveyardshift2100]

Yeah that definitely didn't kill Clayface. Not even the first time he's faked his death with electricity.

[@Reyna_Amaturi]

Batman has defeated him with electricity before, and it has never killed him but more so to knock him out

[@Jcline0128]

They are making a clayface origin story i believe cersi can see multiple versions of the future and knows how to manipulate to arrive where she wants

[@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache]

I wonder how this will connect with the Clayface movie?

[@lmq9516]

It sounds like the clayface movie is an origin story based off of reports. I’m interested to see how much of clayface we actually see, since it’s only got a 40 million dollar budget.

[@rah0210]

Still dont trust the princess. I think there was a reason they showed all those portraits in ep 1 where the royal family looks weird and then suddenly you see her whose beautiful. And her interaction with her mother gave weird vibes.

[@Loreweavver]

Kinda feels like a re-skinned Guardians of the Galaxy story...

[@Evan_4587]

I mean I think Frankenstein killed the lady so she wouldn’t be alone so I mean he felt something.

[@Patrick-wl6pw]

Love ep real good

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I’m curious about how Grodd works out here, like is he going to be the Thanos of the DCU or is he just a villain for the Waller side of the universe? If so, what is his vibe?

[@benellison5668]

I think Clayface talked to Waller initially

[@jonvangilder4861]

The wife and I refer to Franenstein as: FrankIncel.

[@TheUchihaCub]

Whatever happens will be resolved before Superman. I thought this has been build up for the Themyscira show. They seem to be really interested in Amazon stuff, it’s kinda driving the whole plot.

[@Frankielaz]

It’s Terra from the teen titans … more sense to the CLAYface connection

[@obi_oma]

I'm really unsure about what's going on too. I have a feeling cerce's vision was real but the professor woman is where I'm confused. It would make sense that clayface was sent in by whomever to impersonate her with the goal of convincing waller of the vision, but they made a point to show how incompotant he is at faking expertise like in the classroom. She seemed like a completely different person. So why then would he have killed and replaced her after the fact? To steer waller away from killing the princess? to do the opposite? is grod in charge of this? idkk

[@abelincoln.2064]

How so? the blood on the floor was fresh & sticky with the body still left on the chair. Waller knew flag was doing it with the Princess & refused to kill her, and did nothing to stop him leaving to ... warn the princess. So if she was doing her job the CC would have killed the Princess, and we know Waller is not a villain just a dick. Circe was only hiding the reason for attacking the Bride. And it's like to do with the purple gem she has, and likewise the Princess. The laugh in the vision sounds like Granny Goodness who is a brilliant military commander & can make advanced weapons.