So You Want to Be a PATHOLOGIST [Ep. 34]

[@Maddyz7718]

My mom was a pathologist . She passed away a year ago after fighting a battle with scleroderma for over 12 years . Your video made me miss her sitting and using her microscope even more 💔

[@Tooth_Fairy]

Hi there, I'm here giving you virtual love and hugs ❤️❤️🫂🫂 hope you're doing okay as one can be

[@annaesmaili4867]

Bless you Your mother will never leave you because you are some part of her so she’s always with you

[@pjz96]

I hope you're okay. She loves you so much ♥️

[@toyoabasiekpoabasi]

Don't share info

[@alexiarodney222]

I've been begging for YEARS for forensic pathology, so happy we got this!

[@beachgirlie07]

Same here 😂

[@ryandufur]

Same!

[@vlava_reads7484]

Hopefuy there will be a video about forensic doctors as well. We tend to get 'not a doctor’ treatment 🥹

[@ana13594]

Same :)

[@Watch4dummi3s]

i always wanted to do that!

[@mattxx3120]

"A common misconception is pathologists aren't real physicians, this is not true" 4 days later: He makes a tier list on his own channel where he puts pathology as Not Really Medicine. I'm dying xD

[@CHSprom07]

Path resident. This is very very accurate. Thank you. One edit: AP pathologists often specialize in molecular (along with CP pathologists)

[@BadlyDrawnJack]

I was on the edge of what specialty I want to go into, and I was thinking about internal medicine and especially infectology, but I don't really like talking to people, so I was thinking about radiology, anesthesiology and pathology. When I saw medical microbiology, it felt like my answer was there.

[@maximumovermuslim6337]

I just hope Dr. Jubbal understands that he is nothing short of a pioneer in clarifying the realm of medicine for the undergraduate world. If we didn't have this, the only way we could have known about these specialties and their subsidiaries is through our limited rotations and mentorship.

[@ItsAsparageese]

For real. I've trained/worked in a handful of different healthcare roles, and consistently, the overall subject of Boundaries/Scopes of Practice/Legalities/Logistics/Role Definitions is one of the worst confusion issues I see among my peers. This is just as true of workers in the field as it is of students. It's concerning how many people out there are nervously going through the motions and hoping they're not completely missing out on options that would suit them better, or making mistakes starting down paths that cost a lot to reorient later. I've met plenty of registered practitioners who still weren't totally clear on the difference between certification, state registration, and active licensure -- and they had tried to learn, and got their hands held enough along the way to check off the boxes, but I can't imagine how much legal trouble comes to people over time when they don't know where to go to renew their professional registration. This channel is an invaluable resource for making the entire medical field more transparent, not just with regard to its ethical and logistical divisions/overlaps of types of work, but also the way someone's medical practice fits into the surrounding jurisdiction they're in (assuming they're in the USA or somewhere similar ofc). Healthcare training institutions (and those for other fields) should have to teach classes on this stuff instead of just, at best, shoving lots of words at students.

[@stevenreeves2518]

As a pathologist I can say you hit the nail on the head dude! With regards to AI, the pathologist/radiologist that doesn’t use AI WILL be replaced by those that do. Great video!

[@MedSchoolInsiders]

Bit thanks to our content expert for providing the information in this video :)

[@noelblanco4246]

@@MedSchoolInsiders Will you cover the lifestyle medicine specialty? I hope you can consider it. Thank you.

[@hailey8595]

I want to become a pathologist, but I don't think I have what it takes? What was your experience in med school? Did you ever feel like you didn't know what you were doing or had the passion? Was med school the hardest part? I think I'm mostly scared of going to med school and I feel like I don't have the discipline to study all day long.

[@joepoor1678]

@@hailey8595I feel the same way as you. I don’t think I have enough passion and motivation to complete 4 rigorous years of studying. I can be lazy at times lol

[@haw4ii96]

@@hailey8595me too 😭

[@BugMed]

One of my top two fields of interest in med school is forensic pathology (AP/NP-> FP). Neuropath is really cool and absolutely fascinating. As is forensic path. Glad to see this video up for people. Pathology has a lot to offer people as a career opportunity. Now, time to grab some Swiss Miss and have a chat with my microscope about the days ahead. Her name is not Tabitha.

[@lea-analowery4585]

Ok, Glaucomfleken. Lol.😜

[@camiloiribarren1450]

This is awesome to learn, getting a more intimate look into pathology. Hope to see a “So You Want To Be An Infectious Disease Specialist”

[@ItsAsparageese]

FERVENTLY SECONDING THIS! We need ID docs spotlighted more! I feel like IM in general and especially ID doesn't get anywhere near proportionate coverage in this part of KZbin despite being SO interesting and in-demand ... but I'm probably biased because that's the content I want the most, so naturally I quickly consume what material is out there and thus it feels insufficient lol

[@khalilahd.]

This is my favorite series on this channel. So informative 🙏🏽

[@elijahmurray6094]

Yaaaaaayyyyyyy

[@sam-do3kv]

I was just thinking if pathology will suit me and now I have me answer...very helpful ☺

[@musiqal333]

I follow her channel H+E life. I think it's rather informative and cool. I definitely recommend it to the future pathologists.

[@ricardoferral4553]

Finally!! I’ve been waiting for this video !! Pathology rules 💪🏼😎

[@IshaqAMuhdCHO]

Through this video I know much more about pathologist, God bless you Dr. J

[@From_Dust_We_Rise]

Wow!..... I'm taking a gap year, and this is exactly what I needed. So much great info, THANK YOU!

[@Pathpal]

Great video. I would mention that pathologists are middle tier for compensation, but work 25-50%fewer hours than many higher compensation jobs. Just something to also consider…

[@markj7221]

best lifestyle specialties imo: derm, rad onc, opthalmology, psichiatry, pmr, em, pathology

[@ApudaPichihii]

Why Pmr have a good lifestyle?

[@HSSMC112]

Hello Mr. Jubbal, can you please PLEASE do Oncology. I imagine that people would love to learn and see about Oncologists! Thank you!

[@ItsAsparageese]

I practically never see content about oncology, which is so weird because I think tons of people want to enter that field and there's obviously a ton of demand for it right now, plus the bioscience/research sphere there is wildly cool and in a huge rapid growth phase. It's not my taste as specialties go but we absolutely do need more content about it

[@HSSMC112]

@@ItsAsparageese thank you! Yeah, unfortunately there is no good source of videos about Oncology and other a little forgotten specialties. Thank you for your time!

[@jackiefrost2]

I know I don’t wanna be a pathologist because I love patient care lol, but I wanted to know more about the pathology specialty so thanks for the video!

[@SerpentDemise]

I've always wanted to be an anatomic pathologist, this was incredible to learn and listen to

[@u_luintel]

Finally the wait is over.. Thanks Dr. Jubbal 😉❤️

[@fil_pro5381]

Awesome video, as the whole "So you want to be..." playlist (and channel in general!) Hope to see a "So You Want To Be a Public Health and Preventive Medicine Doctor" in particular, but everything else would be fine anyway, 'cause I love them all! Greetings from Italy! 🌍

[@ItsAsparageese]

I'm a HUGE nerd about public health and especially upstream medicine, so I'm right there with you, I'd love to see more discussion of these career paths! I think here in the USA we'd usually use the term "epidemiologist" to refer to what you describe -- but, of course, epidemiology is just one doctor-role-ish focus within public health, so there are many ways to participate. And many people here who work in public health go through nonmedical pathways to get there, like studying to work in nonprofits or other social work first. I could be wrong, but I've never heard about any medical specialty here that focuses specifically on prophylaxis -- instead, it's generally a topic that's folded into the responsibilities of all providers -- but that would be extremely cool. And it would help our healthcare situation, I'm sure, because a major problem for people who DO have healthcare access here is that providers just don't have time for in-depth patient education, which is necessary for good prevention, so it would be really awesome to see that become a better-developed field. I'm super fascinated with etiology in general (and especially social determinants of health, of course) but I've never heard of anyone being a practicing etiologist ... Maybe I should declare myself one and help establish it as a specialty, lol!

[@kofosuonbass]

Likewise, very interested in looking forward to a Public Health/Epidemiology specialty video. Greetings from the UK.🇬🇧

[@ItsAsparageese]

I'd argue that, in all medical fields and especially pathology, there's definitely a valuable place for PhD docs in the biosciences. They offer incredibly valuable insight into the most cutting edge discoveries and methods, and they can be a lot more diagnostically astute in many ways than med school grads can sometimes be. After all, "doctor" originally more broadly meant someone who contributed to doctoring an area of knowledge, and this then then terminologically and legally branched out (as I understand it) with medical doctors becoming more specific, before the broadly accepted primary connotation of "doctor" shifted. And some PhD docs even end up working in clinical settings more than some varieties of med docs. It just varies widely. BUT yeah, at the same time, many of the PhD docs out there can be sketchy as hell, and totally ride the public's confusion about licensure/certification as far as they can, and they're very dangerous, so the warning is also totally justified. It sucks that we don't have a more specific defining scope boundary, and a title to reflect it, for the bioscience high academia certifications-of-various-types that contribute greatly to the actual practice of medicine. They should still be recognized as parts of medical teams/hospital makeup much of the time even though they don't have licensure to practice independently (just like plenty of other hospital staff, recognized as valid medical care contributors, likewise don't).

[@Queen1001N]

Another advantage, forensic pathology journals have some very interesting titles sometimes. Examples: Decapitation by a Detonating Cord Death by Wheat-Loaded Cartridge Dying Transfixing His Own Heart

[@Sypossc]

Great video! Extremely accurate and informative. One point I'd like to make: I know a lot more physicians who left other clinical specialties to become pathologists than I know pathologists who regret not directly participating in patient care. But maybe that's just a bias I experience as a pathologist.

[@ItsAsparageese]

I can't find the words right now for exactly laying it out but I'm confident that you're right about experience causing bias/that there's a major sampling error involved in that reasoning, since by nature both clauses are talking about people who are in fact currently pathologists, so one would imagine they'd generally like it 😆 By all means though, it does seem like a field that brings people a lot of really great joy, and I know the lack of direct contact with patients is a great thing. Reminds me of how when I worked at a grocery store half my life ago, everyone wanted to get into the departments with the least customer interaction lol. Pathology seems pretty dope. I'm just positive that asking pathologists isn't the best way to project overall satisfaction rates that would apply to the general population hahaha

[@healer_9677]

Please. Make a so you want to be an hematologist oncologist

[@khalilahd.]

Yesss!!

[@jaredpech4238]

YEEEES PLEASE

[@dominichernandez2403]

Yess

[@dimitrijejovanovic5939]

Another pro: Death Metal music in the office all day long

[@MedSchoolInsiders]

😂

[@daquanbenson549]

I love your videos!! I think pathology is an area i'd love to get into along with Neurosurgery

[@dipinto97]

Saaaaaame! And I feel weird for considering basically only these two options that are so completely different 😢

[@jappy346]

FINALLY ABOUT PATHOLOGY 💙🦠🧬

[@doctorshawn3461]

I am pathologist who works in a busy academic hospital and the lifestyle isn't that great. I work more hours than some of the "busy" physicians. The number of cases goes up every year and the number of biomarkers (and molecular tests) needed to be performed on each case is going up exponentially, drastically increasing the workload. Most of these ancillary tests are not done at community hospitals (they are just sent to academic hospitals to do), so if you want a good lifestyle you definitely need to work at a community hospital.

[@Philwu1879]

Could you create a "So you want to be an interventional radiologist?" I know radiology has been covered but it was mostly diagnostic and I feel that interventional radiology is almost a completely different field. Thanks!

[@prateekmisra8251]

Sweet baby Jesus I've been waiting for this

[@christianbarksdale6394]

Could you do a “So you want to be a Vascular Surgeon” video? That’s the field that I’m most interested in right now, and I would love to hear what you have to say about the field.

[@ItsAsparageese]

I, too, would love insight into what sort of absolutely crazy person ends up becoming a vascular surgeon. I'm just teasing, I totally get the appeal of complex high-stakes specialties lol that one just isn't my taste and feels scary and nebulous even for my thrillseeking self XD

[@nadiasanz3779]

@@ItsAsparageese 😂😅

[@indygeo4267]

Yet another medical specialty that interests me. I would very much like to become a Pathologist if I end up working in the medical field. It's that, or Family Medicine.

[@theletterj]

In regards to pathology emergencies, prolymphocytic leukemia should be replaced by acute promyelocytic leukemia.

[@maximumovermuslim6337]

Ngl, was kinda expecting Shaykh Hussein Abdul Sattar to get a shootout in this video for the GOAT of a pathologist he is 😅 I've actually met him personally and I'm a student of one of his students in Islamic jurisprudence and classical Arabic. His eloquence is consistent between Pathoma and his Arabic textbooks ما شاء الله. Anyway, another great video, Dr. Jubbal! Thank you!

[@KINGOFHEAVENsb6xb]

I am a Pathology student 🧫🔬🌡️🧑‍🔬 I am proud my profession 🎉❤🎉

[@_my_insomnia_blink562]

I'm not sure about this statement, but in Greece, we use the term "pathologist" as a family medicine doctor. It's the first doctor you go to when you get sick.

[@studiedgaming641]

Family medicine doctors are also that in the United States

[@sounakrakshit7312]

what?? family medicine doctors are known as a GPs worldwide..

[@ChadbourneZitek]

@@sounakrakshit7312 Here in the USA, GP = someone who did one year of residency (intern year) to be legally able to practice, but is not board certified. They are extremely rare because most places hiring don't want to hire someone who isn't board certified. Family medicine, conversely, is a boarded specialty (and FM docs are technically specialists, as such, in providing longitudinal primary care most often in an outpatient setting to the whole age range). It takes 3 years of residency after medical school to become a board certified FM physician.

[@lukasritzer738]

Anyone want to join me in starting the country’s first Interventional Pathology 7 year combined residency fellowship program? We would learn how to operate and perform critical procedures on the cells we look at. Yes the cells have their own lives. And yes they deserve as much attention as humans. No I will not be taking questions at this time.

[@SludgeMan90]

I did want to become a pathologist. it was my dream residency while I was in medical school. Unfortunately, I got chronically ill in medical school and my vision and memory was permanently impaired, so it put pathology out of the realm of possibility for good.

[@alyssatalamantes2826]

yay! thank you Dr jubbal I've been waiting for this one

[@addisonharwell8829]

Can you do oncology please? I’m really interested in it and have enjoyed my shadowing in oncology and would love more information like this about it! Thank you for all you do!

[@viviennedossantos9432]

Great video! I would love a more in depth evaluation of forensic pathology!

[@nicolelau0410]

Hope to see “So You Want to Be a Immunologist and biotechnician”

[@beachgirlie07]

Yesssss!!! This is the one I’ve been waiting for! 🥳

[@fredashay]

_"Tabitha is an OMAX LED compound microscope. Have some respect!"_ -- Dr. Glaucomflecken

[@peterhovorka5153]

Pathology isn't bad. Great lifestyle. But there is one thing that nobody sees. I watched many interviews with pathologist and everone said that 80% of pathologist have some special fellowship. It's very rare to be "general pathologist". So it ads you 1-2 more years of study. So basically you have 4 years pathology residency and then 2 years of some special fellowships. So it's total of 6 years of studying. In my opinion it is too long. If I want to study like this after medical school, I would choose sone surgical specialty

[@vans4lyf2013]

My boss is a pathologist who is single boarded and did his residency and fellowship in 3 years. If you do just one i.e. either clinical or anatomical you can finish residency and fellowship in 3 years which is even faster than primary care.

[@ItsAsparageese]

Yeah pathology is a particular area where (from what I hear) it's pretty common for fellowship tracks to be combined efficiently with residency. The logic that "it takes too long, do something completely different instead" is fine for your own priorities, but very weird to state as general advice. If someone likes the idea of doing pathology and it's really a fit for them, a little thorough training shouldn't be enough to put them off that path, ESPECIALLY since pathology is by nature an extremely detailed and specific field requiring very complete knowledge to make very subtle distinctions. Basically, if someone thinks "ugh, 6 whole years of training, that's lame, I'll do something else instead", then yeah indeed I hope they go do something else instead lol because their mindset isn't right for fields that require deep sincere investment in detailed training. I'd argue that it's also not a great sign for a future in surgery, except I definitely understand how theory training vs manual skill training are totally different appeals and the "ugh, so much time" reaction to pathology might indeed be a good indicator that someone would be happy and committed in a surgical field, so I can't deny there are probably some instances of this being a solid line of reasoning. It's just not a great general advice position IMO, I don't like the values it reflects when applied broadly instead of as an individual preference.

[@pum-pururum-tum]

You will work for decades 1-2 years are not what should determine your choice

[@Tooth_Fairy]

I know you've done Maxillofacial Surgery, but PLEASE do General Dentistry!! 👉🏿👈🏿

[@NavaxD97]

Please do forensic pathology

[@GatPat5555]

I wanted to be in pathology residency so bad. Now I am participating anaesthesiology residency next 6 months. 😊😊😊

[@redlightgreenlightswag9338]

Can you please do oncologist next?

[@dinaml7448]

Finally!! I've been waiting for this

[@ciarab1028]

Divine Timing in seeing this video. It must be for me! ❤️

[@QuamaineBond]

I. HAVE. BEEN. WAITING. ON. THIS. ONE!

[@alsehl3609]

Doing autopsies as a profession or as a pathology medical student, it must be gruesome and heartbreaking.

[@WinchFe]

I have questions: 1. Are there plenty of neuropathologist jobs? 2. FINANCIAL ASPECT: Are either surgical pathologists or neuropathologists at least well off or at least living comfortably in states like California? I am very suited to pathology, that's why I am asking. Thanks!

[@PeaceNinja007]

If it weren’t so expensive and long to go through medical school and if I weren’t so old already, I would choose this as a career change of what I’m currently doing.

[@areebarashid913]

Could you please make a "So you want to be an Oncologist?"

[@nihaddzudjo5617]

Could you do hematology next pls

[@turtletyme6264]

Thank you for reading my comment on the last video

[@rickvargas9944]

Transplant Surgery, Allergology/Immunology and Rheumatology soon!

[@sparklingsana95]

Make one for pulmonologist too

[@user-fb4bg9dr7l]

This is my favourite specialty

[@ryanlgn]

As a clinical laboratory scientist of 7 (almost 8) years with a large focus in transfusion medicine, I have been considering going into medicine to be a Pathologist in Transfusion Medicine. It does seem overwhelming as a non-traditional student

[@cloudfan1010102]

I’m in a CLS program right now! Starting my second semester soon :D I LOVE it so far!! But I was also always interested in Pathology too! I don’t think my undergrad grades are good enough for medical school though, and I don’t have much recent volunteer experience either. Also, it would be a long road and I am already almost 30! Its a big decision to make.. On the plus side, I dont have a spouse or kids yet-so making a big decision like medical school wouldn’t be so bad. We’ll see! So far my favorite unit was Hematology and Clinical Chemistry 🤗

[@juliamisc]

how did you become a clinical lab scientist? what degrees and/or certifications do you have? that’s what i’m considering going into :)

[@ryandufur]

Would you be able to do a forensic pathologist day in the life one day?

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

Can you do ( So you want to be a medical examiner or forensic pathologist)?

[@archanakaran3289]

Please please make a video on "upcoming booming specialization for doctors in the future"

[@beansprout_apg886]

If I would choose another field, one that I really wanted is to become a forensic pathologist, archeologist or wildlife biologist.. looking this, maybe I really wanted a job that dig deeper into something 😅😅

[@markj7221]

334k a year is literally more on avg than just about any other career. pay is not a downside of going into pathology.

[@ieman7173]

please do pharmacologist next

[@Sy-wk1me]

Sounds perfect for me!

[@tran9151]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!

[@shnarf-fb2fy]

"...seek out those who are actual MD [or DO] physicians." Would you mind making this slight change to your ending segment? DOs are DOctors too.

[@redd1417]

I swear, I feel like I have no idea what is competitive anymore. At one point, people said PMR, Radiology and Anesthesia were easy to get into but I've seen so many unmatched people from my med school and adjacent TY/Prelim residency programs, I can't see how that is even true....

[@Rosasazules1]

Thanks so much!

[@dianefox1037]

Could you please make a video about medical specialties for people with weak stomach?😅

[@SuziiRamirez]

You should do a So You Want to be a Medical Geneticist :)

[@therealannabart]

Please please do Orthodontics. Thanks love your channel.

[@ToBeLoved7652]

Can you do allergy/immunology and then clinical genetics?

[@blaby4ever]

Like podiatry, they should just make pathology (and perhaps radiology and other support specialties) their own colleges. 4 years of med-school and boards that all specialties need to take. Since such specialties are significantly specific, may as well have its own separate college to specialize in day one and hone your skills sooner. But uncle sam reigns over our medical system.

[@stevenreeves2518]

Basic science along with clinical experiences during clerkships make a well rounded pathologist. Clinical clerkships also give a greater context to the clinical pathology side of medicine, which is completely necessary for things like clinical chemistry, blood bank and hematopathology. I think separating out pathology away from the rest of traditional medical school would be a bad idea in my opinion. Also keep in mind that pathology residents used to do an initial internal medicine intern year many decades ago before pathology residency, and this was a requirement. -Pathologist

[@blaby4ever]

@@stevenreeves2518 No one said anything about separating pathology from the rest of traditional medical school. Just make it its own college with its own four years with the same didactics and clinicals yet retain an emphasis on that specialty (like podiatry). Reread my previous comment please.

[@stevenreeves2518]

@@blaby4ever medical school and podiatry school both basically require a bachelors or 90 hours undergrad…since a pathologist is a medical doctor, then the same prerequisites should be required like other doctors.

[@juliamisc]

i will note that clinical microbiologists exist and don’t go to med school (still need higher education and certification) but do a similar role in the medical sphere!

[@dwagz6311]

Been waiting for this forever 😍

[@abbienic1342]

Im about to finish up my MLT program and be ASCP certified next year and it really opened my eyes up to the lab side of healthcare. Now i really want to go to med school for either pathology, hem/onc, or even radiology. Does my time working as a ASCP certified MLT count as clinical hours and is it a good reason to explain my reasoning for wanting to attend medical school?

[@andychouac]

Could you do so you want to be a pharmacist please?

[@LND24]

So 4 years school, 4 years residency, and 1-2 years of fellowship to be "right in the middle" of compensation? You'd almost rather go into surgery at that point with that kind of commitment.

[@mustang8206]

Bruh you're making $330,000 a year. That's 11x what the average American makes and far more money than you need

[@LND24]

@@mustang8206 thats not the point. We're talking strictly relative to other medical specialties

[@yutami3012]

huge difference in lifestyle balance, tho. it's not always about money.

[@mustang8206]

@@LND24 Nah you shouldn't be so greedy

[@LND24]

@@mustang8206 I don't think I said anything greedy. You just want to make sure you dedicate 10 years to the right field.

[@nwachinemerechukwuma9699]

I am happy to see this

[@RedrumCvmlcs]

I would love to see a day in the life for emergency medicine

[@gabrieladiaz9686]

Do Pulmonary and critical care (PCC)!! pleaseee

[@mohamedomer1412]

Can you do oncology next

[@deveshdeshpande6592]

Great video 👌

[@kaeyaseyepatch2363]

Do pathologists tend to write a lot of soap notes, or do they just churn out diagnoses without having to write up extensive documentation for it? Basically, is one of the major cons of internal medicine also found here?

[@thatfootballfan3484]

Can you do pulmonologist next??

[@toyoabasiekpoabasi]

So helpful

[@SoberAF1]

Great video!

[@reva8564]

Please make a video about being a physical therapist.

[@mazin4140]

thanks man much appreciated

[@michaelgyasi3394]

i have been waiting for this !!!! siuuuuuuuu

[@ibrahimmazinmahmood1746]

Can you please do forensic medicine. Thanks

[@Yasmin-qk7wi]

Question, do pathologists work in the same hospital as all other doctors or do they work in a separate lab? Or can you choose?

[@シン-t7q]

afaik u can choose.

[@impdiagnostics7875]

Very interesting!

[@cristenflewellen1692]

Hi Dr. Jubbal! After seeing your video on Affirmative Action, can you discuss your views on HBCU medical schools?