soap curing 🤯 the secret to making cold process soap that's ready in 48 hours

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[@tw2800]

The title of this video is misleading. You don’t provide any formula in this video. You just talk in circles…you say “just to cut to the chase” and then bounce around…why waste everyone’s time hyping up a “secret formula” you never share a formula…get to the point

[@makesyofficial]

We're sorry you felt that way! The formula is using the 50/50 lye solution which makes the soap safe to use in 48 hours, cutting cure time.

[@makesyofficial]

here are the exact instructions! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap

[@Aaron83W]

@@makesyofficialwhat do you mean by 50\50 solution?

[@Ssssssmmmmmmmmm]

@@Aaron83WAs in 50% lye, 50% water, as in equal parts water to lye solution.

[@wisedove7]

​​@@Ssssssmmmmmmmmm It's an extreme water discount...to the bare minimum. Then you can add a little more liquid if you choose. They are also misrepresenting the process of "curing". The purpose of curing for 4-6 weeks is for the water to evaporate-->to make the bars harder-->which makes the bars last longer. She wanted thousands of bars FAST, so she minimized the water/liquid she used to speed up the cure(evaporation) time.

[@phatwombat4241]

Useable but will wash away quickly, leaving people frustrated.

[@makesyofficial]

Follow our IG! We are showing a little experiment over the next few weeks with soaps at various cure times.

[@tnvolzfan9457]

Any good soap maker knows that soap is safe to use in 48 hours!

[@makesyofficial]

You'd be surprised at how many people out there don't know!

[@denisekay8023]

I wish I was an expert first time I made soap but I was not then and certainly learn something new each time I watch videos. I knew soap was safe pretty early on but it did not stop me from testing every batch on myself and family before I sold my first bar! Don’t assume everyone knows because you think it is “standard knowledge.” My first soap book (before I discovered videos) made it very clear you absolutely had to cure it 4-6 weeks before use and I believed it for a long time.

[@tnvolzfan9457]

if you're selling, yes, it definitely has to cure so customers are getting their money's worth. For personal use, in 48 hrs it has went thru saponification and is safe to use. It won't last as long as it would being fully cured, but it is safe to use.

[@dieseephuis]

Yeh...it's these FB groups. They hear one thing and run with it. Nobody questions the logic or is allowed to question the logic behind it.

[@A.l.l16]

​@@makesyofficialevery channel on you tube says 4weeks to 5weeks , thank you

[@WarriorEmpress1999]

It’s all in the chemistry of the water lye ratio. I simply use a lit bit less lie and water, and make my bars a tiny bit smaller so the completely dry in a couple days. I’ve used mine after 7 days of curing and they were great! Love this!🥰

[@makesyofficial]

Thanks for sharing! Yes exactly! All about that chemistry.

[@LadyBird-n2t]

But do they last? That is the question

[@drsanjaygaikwad80]

misleading

[@makesyofficial]

Hi Dr. Sanjay! We're so sorry you think this. Truthfully, after using the 50/50 lye solution the soap is indeed set and safe to use for skin in 48 hours. However, soap makers can continue curing until their desired bar results are reached and all water is gone which can take an additional 3-4 days. Hope that helps!

[@tammyanne8345]

I don’t think it’s misleading as much as incomplete. You have to dig through the comments to find the rest of the story. This is simply advocating for a water discount, which most soap makers already do, using their premixed oils of the trinity. Marketing, that’s all. Nothing innovative, just marketing If you’re a new soaper, buying the premixed oils might be good for you to cut your teeth on. I did the same years ago with Brambleberry’s premix. The “formula” is simply a water discount in proportion to their recipe. No need to get upset with them for making a commercial to sell their own products.

[@makesyofficial]

Hi Tammy! You can view our entire study here :) makesy.com/blogs/news/how-long-does-bar-soap-need-to-cure

[@simbulele.mdleleni]

Thanks for this explanation. I was a but confused after watching the video.

[@moiraesfate1]

1. Ok, just because you could doesn't mean you should. It's safe to use after 48 hours but it's not ready to use and will disappear in a day or too from water. Every single soap recipe out there is safe to use after 48 hours. Not to mention that safe doesn't mean good. A soap that's been cured properly (at least 4-6 weeks depending on water content) will feel alot better on the skin than soap that's been sitting for 48 hours. Curing time isn't about water loss, it's about properly forming the soap crystals. The longer you leave it, the better it will be. 2. Do NOT use phenothylenine drops to test your ph. Use a ph meter. It's one heck of alot more accurate. 3. Your proprietary recipe is olive, coconut and palm. Which almost every soap recipe uses. It's not proprietary at all. Seriously, don't be teaching people this stuff when you don't know what you're talking about. I'm very glad I haven't bought from you.

[@makesyofficial]

Hi Moira! We appreciate your soap making insight! While cure time may not be only be about water loss, in this series of videos we were specifically talking about the water weight of the bars and to continue weighing as the soap continues to cure until the weight remains consistent for packaging purposes. We were focused on the safety aspect vs the skin experience aspect for large production and white labeling. The short cure time to packaging makes it much easier to move through production knowing that the bars will likely sit on shelves for a few more weeks or even months prior to sale. Can you gives us a little more insight as to why the PH meter is more accurate than the drops? The Trinity Blend while the ingredients may not be anything new, we have not seen many pre-mixed oiled blends on the market and we've found it to be a wonderful shortcut from measuring and mixing all your oils individually which also helps in the scalability of the business. We hope this helps clarify some of the language in our recent soap videos and we appreciate you sharing your knowledge and expertise!

[@s.s.9160]

I don't think you don't know what you are even talking about 😅

[@theorgelmeisterakathesoapm8589]

I do let mine cure 4 weeks, but I've occasionally used it in far less time. I've used hot process as soon as it cooled enough to cut just to prove the point. Great video, ladies!!

[@makesyofficial]

Thanks for sharing and being a part of our community! :)

[@rafierafie]

Am I missing something here? I see a link to a website but no video with the recipe/formula and a bunch of what looks like affiliate links. Because CP soap is soaponified in 48 hours certainly doesn't mean it's going to be a firm long lasting bar of soap. I'm sorry to say but until someone says otherwise, I think this was click bait. Shame on you!

[@makesyofficial]

Here is the recipe :) makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap We are currently running an experiment we will be publishing soon that shows the formula does create a nourishing long lasting bar of soap! We suggest you check out our starter kit and you can test it yourself!

[@bee7549]

The other reason modern soap makers (that are aware of the 48 hour saponification) recommend curing for 4-6 weeks is so that your soap gets a chance to lose water, harden and last longer in the shower. I have heard of people complaining that some brands they use do not last as long as others.

[@makesyofficial]

You're spot on! Using our formula we did a study on longevity of bars based on cure time. You can check it out here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-long-does-bar-soap-need-to-cure?_pos=2&_psq=cure%20soap&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[@bee7549]

@@makesyofficial I just read your blog and it makes perfect sense. The soap formula is so important as are the water discount and humidity of where you live. I am a 'newish' soapmaker that has learnt alot through trial and error, adjusting formulas and constantly experimenting. Mistakes are good for growth 😅

[@schellsc]

Secret science lol. I believe Dr Kevin Dunn has spoken about this and in his book Scientific Soapmaking: The Chemistry of the Cold Process. Mrs. Soap & Clay has also spoken about this in her soaping videos ☺

[@makesyofficial]

Secret science is right! We love the Scientific Soap Making book.

[@sheryllanfarmer370]

where is the formula please

[@asmith1268]

@@sheryllanfarmer370 Agreed. Where is the formula they are speaking about? Should we go buy ph drops and test the soap after 48 hours?

[@Twistedtree7]

@@asmith1268the “recipe” is a 50/50 lye solution

[@Aira_727]

Okay you then I show the recipe. I know that so ap is ready to use after 48 hours. I leave mine soaps to cure four to six weeks. Not because it's not safe to use it's because I want my customer be able to enjoy the soaps far longer time not for it to get mushy when it's in the shower. Like most soapers know the older the soap the longer it will last.

[@makesyofficial]

Thanks for sharing! Yes we definitely agree that's SUPER important. You can't have repeat customers without good product! We are just trying to help educate people on how to scale their production for those who maybe don't know or are confused on the concept, knowing that the soap will sit on shelves or be in transit for some time after the initial 48 hours.

[@LoccNessMonster]

@@makesyofficial Ahh.. I never thought of that🤔. Great Video😊

[@bee3po122]

This was a very disappointing video, because I thought you were going to give us the recipe in the video. But you didn’t! I was glad to learn that you could make a 48 hour soap.

[@makesyofficial]

Here is the recipe! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap

[@susanboshaw3083]

Guess I'm just stupid, because I don't get it! Just going to keep rewatching till I get it.

[@makesyofficial]

Don't be so hard on yourself! :) We are referring to using the 50/50 lye solution which helps expedite the amount of time it would usually take a batch of soap to cure (4-6 weeks). You can purchase the trinity blend here and use our guides to create your own 50/50 lye solution! makesy.com/collections/soaps

[@susanboshaw3083]

@@makesyofficial thank you for the link.

[@katiemarshall984]

I didn't get it either lol I'm brand new to this I'm glad u made this comment

[@1idontwantausername]

You are not alone. I have been making soap for years and I have no idea what they're saying. The instructions are very unclear.

[@emilyramos729]

@@1idontwantausername the instructions are missing. They seem to direct us to another video at the end but I don’t find the step by step instructions

[@Naturalsoaprecipes]

Joanna couch is the best. Love her teachings and tips. She's so honest

[@makesyofficial]

We love her too :)

[@restrepohomes]

While the PH level might be at an acceptable level, it doesn't make it a "safe and ready to sell for household use" product. This title is of course very misleading. Beyond using the word "safe", what is the experience using a 48hr bar? how long would it last? how long would it last compared to one that cured for 4-6 weeks?

[@makesyofficial]

Hi! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. We would not recommend selling the bar after 48 hours. We are simply stating that the lye is no longer caustic after that amount of time due to the 50/50 lye solution thus it is safe to touch and package. We will update our copy where necessary to clarify this point. We recommend that everyone does a test batch to test the skin experience and texture of their bars to determine their preferred amount of cure time. Hope that helps!

[@tinapinch7494]

If you're selling to a large chain like that, it could take 4 to 6 weeks for your products to get on the actual shelves. I think everybody left off the time to package, shipping to the company, the company deciding which soaps to send to which stores, shipping to the stores and actually getting put on a shelf. It's not misleading because she did it. She just didn't break down time frames. Everybody knows the soap is safe but would dissolve that early, but she's also not going to get 10,000 bars made and on shelves in 48 hours. They wanted the soap in 4 weeks probably took them another 2 weeks to actually get them on the shelves. Problem solved.

[@restrepohomes]

@@tinapinch7494 The title says "Soap that is ready in 48hrs". The soap is far from being ready, and that is misleading. The soap needs to cure for it to be ready and provide a good user experience. If you package the soap (depending on how you do it) it won't cure properly.

[@TheHappyHomesteadingHerbalist]

​@@restrepohomesSoap is completely safe to use after saponification. The word curing is what confuses most ppl. We now know it's nothing more than water evaporation and crystallization.

[@ugochinnamdi9275]

Ok, so why the hate speeches and the shame on you? Such gesture are inappropriate. I too have been making my own soap for the past seven years and if your soap can go through the gel phase then it's one that could be used right away ; be it cold or hot processed. In my experience curing just makes it harder and depending on how you made your soap, you could choose to use it after a week or two or more of curing. So I urge those commenting to be polite in their comments and try to learn from any video rather than see only the bad aspect of it. If it's easy to achieve 10000 bars of soap then go and do yours. All you haters, whether you like it or not she is doing those soap bars and making her money leaving her customers happy. Whatever!

[@makesyofficial]

Thank you so much for being a part of our amazing community!

[@need_officials_]

I use water discount for my soap recipe + 1-2% salt to harden my soap bar. Sodium lactate also helpful to got hard soap bar, that not easily dissolve in bathroom.

[@janicecohoon9674]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience and the water reduction is genius, i kept hearing abot it but never tried it and the 50 / 50 lye solution, love that idea. Is it possible to make this without the special trinity blend of oils? I wanted to use my own formula.

[@AmyliciouslyMe]

soooo..what's the formula?

[@makesyofficial]

To get the full recipe watch our video here on how we use a 50/50 lye solution: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5e2eIWPrdikgqs

[@wildgingerliving]

I use a similar process for the recipe for a soapmaking 101 class I teach locally. This helped me refine a bit....back to the lab. Thank you!

[@shalbsara4326]

Dear.. If you have lessons about curing the soap in 48 .. I would like to learn... Cause I don't have time to wait 6 weeks... I know how to calculate but I have this problem

[@Itsameamario34]

This video is pretty misleading marketing. It basically takes freely available knowledge from soapmaking communities and repackages it as an “innovative” proprietary product. In actuality, 50/50 lye water discount is common soapmaking knowledge. All correctly formulated cold processed bars are safe to use after 48 hours. The 4 week cure time still improves the quality of the soap and this product is no exception (it’s even mentioned in their description). So there’s nothing really “innovative” about this product. I dislike when brands intentionally mislead customers but I do admit this is clever marketing. I suppose if a beginner isn’t about soapmaking and just wants to dabble a bit, this product could be beneficial for them. But then again there are so many other products like melt and pour that already simplifies this process for beginners.

[@makesyofficial]

Hi! We are so sorry to hear that you think this information is misleading. Many people actually are not familiar with using 50/50 lye solution and water discount to decrease the cure time. In the soap making community many people are still under the impression that soap needs to cure for 6 weeks for a variety of reasons. Our goal is to make it easy for makers to scale their businesses and using the 50/50 solution knowing that the soap will continue to cure during the storage and shipping process makes it easy for them to do so. We always recommend doing rigorous testing whenever making a new batch of soap to ensure that the quality is to your standards. You can also reference our study here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-long-does-bar-soap-need-to-cure

[@Jess-dn1pw]

​@@makesyofficialplease stop calling that a study. It's a blog post

[@makesyofficial]

​@@Jess-dn1pw hi there! The study was done over a 2 month period which involved taking daily recordings and weight of every bar. By definition, a study is "a careful examination or analysis of a phenomenon, development, or question; the published report of such a study".

[@zaeem.ul.hassankhatri8335]

Sorry but i was waiting for the secret formula. Didn't find it in this video 😅

[@kiphuginn4428]

you never shared the formula....

[@makesyofficial]

We have a follow up video that walks you through the steps to cold processed soap making using the 50/50 lye solution! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5e2eIWPrdikgqs

[@vivalascare5690]

Hi Makesy! I was excited while watching the video but then I got lost and couldn't see the difference between 50/50 solution and formulating 1to2 parts if extra water was poured into the oils first before adding the 50/50 solution.. isn't this still the same amount of water for a 1to 2 ratio? I'm confused and found a gem of a video and need some elaboration😊 thanks!!!

[@makesyofficial]

Great question! The 50/50 solution is commonly used when you are making soap with alternative fluids, such as goat's milk. It also allows for a wider range of lye concentration, while extra liquid slows down the trace. Discounting water resolves issues that can occur with alternative liquids (milk) such as freezing milk or scorching. Otherwise, soap makers use 60:40, 67:33, 70:30, etc. This gives the most room for alterations and different recipes. For more recipe information you can reach out to our customer care team via [e-mail]

[@ctatro518]

I'm a little confused. What's the secret? Using a 50/50 solution, or is it a different ratio??

[@makesyofficial]

Hi! Using the 50/50 lye solution would be the secret to which makes the soap safe to use in 48 hours, cutting cure time :)

[@moonshadowessentialssoapsn5287]

I always use a 50/50 and I let them sit for 20 days and I ph test the soap and I’ve never had a problem with it.

[@crownclearwater3152]

Do you mean 50/50 ratio of lye solution vs. oils?

[@aikochic]

How do you even ph test?

[@jonathanbraswell6179]

I use a ph tester.

[@btrflysha5]

I realize I can keep scrolling and did shortly after the intro. In all respect, the intro of this video is all about making products quickly, all hands on board to get the product out to make the sale. I feel even if the recipe is legit scientifically speaking the curing process has ZERO to do with "Packaging". This is a vey misleading and potentially dangerous video.

[@makesyofficial]

Hi! We're so sorry to hear that you feel that way. The goal of making soap that's ready to sell in 48 hours is for anyone who wants to scale. Joanna makes millions of bars of amazing quality soap that is in homes across the US and abroad. The soap isn't sold immediately because it's still curing through the packaging, packing, and shipping stage. We conducted a study testing bars at various of the curing process and we found there were minimal differences between between bars cured for 6 weeks and bars that cured in less time. You can read the study here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-long-does-bar-soap-need-to-cure

[@whenfishesflew]

Any soap can be used after 48hrs but it will be a soft bar and will be used up very quickly.

[@makesyofficial]

Correct! All soap is safe after 48 hours! :) Curing it will help it harden!

[@shalbsara4326]

I was waiting the formela 😂

[@hannahjames1411]

Is their a way to turn melt and pour soap in to fur soap without having to buy any other ingredients other then items in your house

[@makesyofficial]

hi hi! fur soap as in a pet shampoo bar? :)

[@mistersmith8962]

You seem very grateful and that is a great thing!

[@makesyofficial]

Aw thank you!

[@valbakke]

I'm not finding the video with the formulation?

[@AmyliciouslyMe]

ikr

[@valbakke]

@@AmyliciouslyMe ??

[@makesyofficial]

You can find the formulation here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5e2eIWPrdikgqs

[@mags.777]

Wow!.. Congratulations to you and your business!..💛

[@makesyofficial]

Thank you so much!!

[@barefacedrob]

It would seem that soap would be more mild in the pat as lye was made by reducing a ash water slurry and was way less concentrated than modern lye.

[@makesyofficial]

Hi there! In the past (pre industrial revolution), there was not much technology or precision in making soap. It doesn't necessarily mean the lye was more or less concentrated, but there was not much regulation, if any, around the production of soda ash and soap in general. Check out this great article from the Soap Guild for more information on the history of soap making! www.soapguild.org/tools-and-resources/resource-center/160/soap-and-soapmaking-in-the-past/

[@rockymountainhomestead]

You ladies are wonderful!

[@makesyofficial]

Thank you so much! Thanks for being a part of our community!

[@rockymountainhomestead]

@@makesyofficial oh absolutely. Check it my channel is you find the time. I'm just getting started, but I'm researching better methods for soap making. I use the far from animals I harvest, rendered with ALL my saved bacon and other grease, rendered 5 times, to make cold process soap. I really enjoyed your stage presence of you will. Your chemistry is also fantastic. Your whole foods story is inspiring!

[@wildwomenherbs1661]

I would have liked to see how to take a piece of the soap and test it separately from the loaf. How do you test a darker bar of soap if you can't see a color change on the loaf?

[@makesyofficial]

Oooh good suggestion! We will add this in a future KZbin or Instagram video. Even on a darker color soap, you will be able to see the liquid turn hot pink.

[@katiemarshall984]

I seen a other video and the lady just dabbed it w a paper towel n the ppr towel was pink

[@handle2468]

Thank you for sharing this information. It was enough to point me in the right direction.

[@ps-bh9ct]

If I use 50/50 lye solution and start using it before 4-6 weeks cure time, will the bar last as much as in the later case?

[@makesyofficial]

Yes, it will!

[@Fiiscreativemoods]

I have a weird random question. If the water in soap needs to evaporate....why can we not put fresh soap in a dehydrator to speed that up?

[@makesyofficial]

We wouldn't recommend a dehydrator as it runs the risk of removing the moisture too rapidly and causing the bar to dry out too much and crumble.

[@carolynyoung3415]

@Soap Gal you are such a beautiful soul! I adore you

[@diamondflourished]

I'd love to try one of Joannas soaps before I purchase the soap making kit

[@makesyofficial]

Feel free to shoot her a message at her website here! thesoapgal.com/

[@Shatina76]

What about additives. I have sea moss pounder. How much should i add to the 5 pound patch and how much essential oil should i add. Thanks

[@makesyofficial]

Hi Shatina! Great question. you can reference this recipe for alterations: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap

[@Shatina76]

@@makesyofficial i don’t see anything about altering this recipe when it comes to additive.

[@fabiojonathanarifin1]

If I pack the bar after the 48 hours, can the bar cure inside the packaging?

[@makesyofficial]

It sure will!

[@Mithrilkatana]

Hi I was wondering if there was any substitutions anywhere in the recipe to be able to incorporate goat milk into the soap. Is that a possibility?

[@makesyofficial]

Absolutely! If you want to use zero water in your formula, you wouldn't be able to use the 50-50 lye solution. However, if you're OK with some distilled water in your formula, you can substitute the 7oz water in your formula for juice or milk. Here is the formula: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap

[@Mithrilkatana]

@@makesyofficial awesome thanks so much!

[@traceyjackson8552]

Hey Joanna, missing your channel, this was a great video guys, Joanna are you coming back to KZbin? You are looking great x

[@makesyofficial]

[@santamariavargas4563]

There are a few Palm Oils and then Palm kernal oils. which one do you use and recommend?

[@makesyofficial]

We would recommend this blend here that contains sustainably sourced palm Elaeis Guineensis Oil: makesy.com/products/trinity-oil-blend-1?variant=42617304711322

[@Traditional_Soaping]

very informative!💖✨

[@makesyofficial]

So glad to hear!

[@what_the_fff]

love it thank you!! keep an eye out for Alien Bar soaps, coming to an Etsy near you

[@makesyofficial]

ooo creative name!!

[@what_the_fff]

@@makesyofficial Space themed lol

[@zanekaela1]

What drops did you use to test the ph alkaline level?

[@makesyofficial]

You can use something like this! makesy.com/products/ph-test-strips?_pos=1&_sid=e5a821c01&_ss=r

[@aguasclarasorganics]

She's the best! ❤

[@makesyofficial]

We agree!!

[@chicamepa]

Thanks a lot girls!

[@ChrisAndChen2021]

Congrats🎉🎉🎉

[@makesyofficial]

thank you!

[@bigk5837]

My go-to is a 15% water discount, but I still cure my bars for 4 weeks. Good to know we have some wiggle room. Thanks for sharing!

[@donnatoataua7777]

How can I follow all your videos

[@makesyofficial]

You can subscribe by clicking the little black button in the upper right here! www.youtube.com/@makesyofficial

[@sandywest4299]

awesome

[@mq181]

Very helpful thanks!

[@makesyofficial]

So glad to hear! Let us know if you have any other questions!

[@mokkw2]

right, safe to use doesn't mean gentle enough to use. i find it more drying when i used newly cured soap. And the soap get soft really fast if you use it right after curing. I will still let it sit for atleast 4 weeks... just my opinion.

[@makesyofficial]

Yes we totally agree! Just because it's safe doesn't mean you need sell it right away either. For most people who are making soap at scale the soap will sit for another 3-4 weeks while it's cut, packaged, and put in transit.