Social Security agency demands money back from overpayments l GMA

[@ChiquitaMia-ci2vg]

So it takes the government years to catch a mistake but they give you 30 days to rectify it. This is a damn shame!

[@sandblast5636]

democrat thieves like you

[@tammiepage6489]

Yeah I’m just pay mines back in two weeks so I just got my notice now and it’s April 16 and I will pay back by April 27 but mine is 1,776 but yet for two years they been taking money out of my check so it should of been paid of

[@datbio7302]

but you have the money for years tax free and interest free, what a deal.

[@edwardabrams4972]

I think if it’s the governments fault they should not be charging the poor retired poor person for their fault! Sickening how the government treats people!

[@jtsy4239]

They know who they're

[@lynnbaker2336]

I was once an employee of a hotel. We were overpaid by several hundred dollars, yet said nothing. Did we have to pat it bk. ? Yes, of coarse we did! We knew we were overpaid when we got it, which, had we not paid it bk. Was a form of stealing!

[@toxicity6629]

@@jtsy4239yt people

[@Lobsterman5481]

This shouldn't be happening in today's technology. Unacceptable!

[@edwinrodeo]

Except the SSA computers are grossly inadequate, budget cuts, underfunded staff. It’s a disaster waiting to happen

[@TheFrenchPug]

That's total B.S.! We don't know how to calculate what we get. They're the ones who do the calculations!!!

[@HollyDutton-wz8fe]

I'm going through that right now. Social Security claims that they overpaid me by over $5000 and is demanding repayment. I wondered how on earth they arrived at such a ridiculously high amount of overpayment. I took the SS letters to a caseworker and she was shocked. She also wondered how this had happened. She read one of the letters and saw that the most recent period in which SS claimed I was overpaid was from January 2022 to June 2022. The caseworker put the letter down on her desk. She looked up and told me to look to where she was pointing on the paper. I looked and then the caseworker said here it says that the amount of your SSI in January 2022 was this much, right? I replied yes, and she asked was it the same amount for each month from January 2022 to June 2022. I said yes. The caseworker said that it looked like SS had taken the amount of SSI in January 2022 and multiplied it by six(the number of months) and that adds up to a little over $5000. That sounds fishy, I said. The caseworker agreed, but it was an awful challenge.

[@aggu5477]

this sounds like social securities' personal problems, not ours

[@TheFrenchPug]

Exactly. The burden should fall in them for screwing it up. Not the tax payer.

[@sandblast5636]

YOU ARE A TAXPAYER SO WHEN YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE TAXES SHUT THE HELL UP, MORON. Democrat butthole

[@brainbomb.]

They should off themselves.

[@cmtp33]

That happened to me in 2018. It took them 2 years to tell me the reason why there was a mistake. They waived the first mistake back in 2009.

[@benl6328]

If the mistake was the other way around, they limit the time you can go back by a couple of months.

[@brianholloway6205]

Lol how does this occur

[@benl6328]

@@brianholloway6205 overpay the government. See if they allow a correction. You'll see it only goes one way.

[@davidlafleche1142]

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme anyway.

[@dannizmail4940]

That is simply untrue. Social Security repays people who were improperly paid - even decades ago and does not limit moneynoweed to the public to "a couple of months. " In fact, a cadre is still looking for relatives of deceased disabled beneficiaries who were improperly paid in the 1960s and 1970s. Ask me how I know. I must call out that your statement as the kind of lie that will keep people from seeking benefits that they are justly due. It is obvious that you have never worked for the agency, have no expertise on the subject, and came up with that wildly inaccurate idea on your own or with the help of a fool. I repeat: Social Security goes back way more than "a couple of months" when you are owed money. With all its faults, the Social Security Administration boasts the single most accurate payment system in the federal government. Of all the governments agencies, I thank God for Social Security. For your information, since 1935 Social Security has lifted millions out of poverty each year. More than 100 million checks go out each year. Finding two or three of these for a news report is not a crisis. This media hype over extreme cases makes you think something is systemically wrong when statistically Social Security is amazingly accurate. Hundreds of millions of checks go out each year. Sometimes people don't report wages and workers' compensation, then complain when the omission is discovered. In my experience, that is where most of those overpayments come from. If you don't believe me, call your local office and ask! Social Security has to pay you every benefit due no matter how old the cases are. Dont listen to the grumblings of the uneducated. Disgruntled negative people like to spread misinformation for the sake of looking intelligent. Their wrong information discourages people from exercising their rights. So they are really doing more harm than good. Look at how many upvoted a FALSE statement. Lol.

[@dannizmail4940]

​@@brianholloway6205You are right to laugh at that statement. You are just about the only one that caught it. He's wrong. See my reply for details.

[@yeah_right88]

Are they firing the employees responsible for the miscalculation?!

[@dalemettee1147]

ME? I think that a class action suit should be placed against the SSA claiming harsh and damaging results by demanding this overpayment back! If the people running the SSA can't keep the accounts straight, how in the heck do they think seniors and disabled people can do that! What are they going to do slam a 90 y/o granny in prison! Bad PR for this sad situation! Let's see what happens in the courts all the way up to the supreme court if necessary! Maybe those responsible mess should be fired! Or is this against the law?

[@liamvosefski2795]

They are the law. Really cant do much.

[@dalemettee1147]

@@liamvosefski2795 This could wind up as what is called "Bad Press" A picture of granny being led to jail in cuffs and crying. Not a good image. A court case should be in the works!

[@Concepcion30]

I don't understand, how were they not aware they were receiving more money? It's not as if you are used to getting $900 a month and suddenly you're getting $2000 but that doesn't raise a red flag?

[@TamTran-hy8dj]

Who fault is it😂

[@truthlives6107]

​​​@@TamTran-hy8dj SSA's fault mostly. Some in Congress are demanding SSA get this right or 💩 gonna 💥 #JohnLarson, #SherrodBrown and some others

[@RossjhH]

​@@truthlives6107well trump wasnt a better leader eather he had no idea what he was doing neither we need to elect people that know what there doing but that's not trump or Biden that's for sure there both old and getting dementia so that's just it were electing old people that have no idea what there doing

[@RossjhH]

​@@truthlives6107lol even mitt Romney came out and said there's issues with both Biden and trump

[@truthlives6107]

@@RossjhH I agree 👍 VOTE ALL MAGA💩🚽👎 🚫UT EVERYWHERE AND EVERY YEAR IT TAKES, OR THEY WILL CUT SS IF THEY WIN SENATE AND HOUSE. MOST CAN'T AFFORD TO GET SICK OR DISABLED EXCEPT MAGAs FAVORITE BILLIONAIRE$

[@zhaneranger]

She gets less then 1000$ a month. Social security is saying they accidentally paid her for over 10 years??? Why are they making these big mistakes to begin with??

[@TheFrenchPug]

That's total B.S.! We don't know how to calculate anything. They do it all.

[@roman6135]

It doesn't add up?

[@NightMotorcyclist]

Inept govt workers and most likely black. Cold hard truth. When I went to the DMV to deal with my stolen plates (after a police report) they kept making mistake after mistake while issuing me a new registration and plates. Only to then not do anything about the stolen plate which the Dept of Finance, also black people, is now hounding me for violations despite clear proof of me not being the operator and that it was stolen.

[@cynthiarios5331]

They get paid to !!

[@waynecmontgomery]

She was getting money from other places that were not factored in or she did NOT disclose

[@mikeclark4272]

The Government should eat their loss for their mistakes that includes SSA

[@dannizmail4940]

If this was a private company, I would agree. But the agency must answer to the American taxpayer. It sucks but it is the responsibility of the Social Security Administration to protect the money in the trust funds, even when it seems unfair to an individual. After all, it is your money...

[@charleshines2142]

They may say 30 days but I think that is just the time they give you to at least get on a payment plan. People on any Social Security benefits could never pay that off!!

[@SkylarReactions]

You really don't understand the scope of the SSA. My fiance just received a letter demanding she repay 12k due to her mother being overpaid when she was 11 years old. We are appealing and having to explain that she was a child. They have no idea wtf they are doing and it's insane to think you can be held.accountable for your parents actions.

[@myobmyob2215]

Reported a death to SS and asked if their acct was closed. They did not want to provide a receipt or relay if there was a balance due or update the address or provide tax forms to do IRS taxes. ???

[@SkylarReactions]

@@myobmyob2215 SSDI recipients don't usually do taxes. Nor do those that get SSi They are below the threshold requiring that they do taxes.

[@myobmyob2215]

​​@@SkylarReactionsNo they were just old and died on reg. SS. The first one got a check suddenly clawed back months later the 2nd one needs their taxes done for years but IRL SS wont present those forms yo do that or update address who knows where or who to they're sending anything or if they're going to be clawed back too. And SS is calculated and taxable. Lots of kids had SS because of parent death, shouldn't that be standard process too? Seems like the IRS could demand that any death related SS stuff be completed by them within tax a year

[@SkylarReactions]

@@CaseClash no idea what you smoking sir. SSDI been around forever.

[@davedavidson9638]

What???

[@brieb4317]

This is scary. I just had my payout on disability now and if they asked me to pay it back I would be devastated.

[@edwinrodeo]

If you’re on SSDI I wouldn’t worry, SSI Is the program that has the most problems

[@smith7388]

This is crazy! And how can they say the repayment amount is true and correct? They’re not smart enough to fight corruption and corporations so they’re coming for consumers.

[@neilkurzman4907]

They do this, because when politicians pander to people like you. They pass these laws telling you that they’re getting your money back from these deadbeats and you believe them.

[@sandblast5636]

sorry ass thieves like the Democrat you are read above.

[@JCcreates927]

We had this happen but made many calls until they fixed it. They did take our SS away for a few months so we lost our car and had to borrow money for our rent. It took us a few months to get it sorted out. The thing with us is they had my hubby making 10,000.00 in one month which would be impossible so it was their mess up, not ours.

[@doubleaadoubleaa5538]

This country is incredible. Keeps going further and further down the drain.

[@amyreynolds3619]

You can thank the twice impeached four times indicted disgraced FORMER president's White House Circus for this.

[@checle4499]

So, they can claw back from seniors, forcing them out of house and home if necessary but - forgive student loan debt. Compassion at its worst, not surprised.

[@almascherck9495]

'they' ? who made this law that social security can do this?? years ago! NOT BIDEN. Biden forgave student loans. When he learns about this, I'm sure he will try to do something cuz it's total bullshit that they cant do their job right the first time and bullshit that they are allowed to claw it back at all!!!

[@Gn777-rk5kg]

USA is getting better and better what a wonderful country we have. Shame shame shame.

[@saritalil9116]

This has been the case for years happened to my son and myself …

[@markhottman2652]

I AM one of those people. They MAKE no concession nor have any reservation. The SSA is BRUTAL!

[@joeblow1688]

Isn't the SSA "required by law" not to make these egregious accounting errors. Where is the accountability? This has got to be one of the worst run and managed Federal agencies in the country. Utter incompetence at SSA. The government needs to bear the consequences of this.

[@bellagirlgirl8827]

How do these overpayments happen? Absurd!

[@CanaKnight]

Most people don’t report their correct wages or lie about being married so SSA don’t take their spouse income into account for their SSI benefits. Then when the SSA finds out years later that she was married this whole time. They’ll backdate her husbands wages to her account and poof she owes 28k of money she wasn’t entitled to

[@emilylovell5976]

@@CanaKnightthe rules of SSI are outdated and unfair most of the rules haven’t been updated in 35+ years

[@Chocolips05]

SSA calculates the monthly amount wrong and doesn’t realize it until years later.

[@CanaKnight]

Most of the calculations done by SSA is done by computers with data the customers provide. So you can’t fault SSA if they weren’t give the correct info to begin with. By the time IRS earnings are posted it is already almost two years down the line and now SSA realize that they didn’t qualify. The biggest thing is people not reporting their Robin Hood accounts. They don’t realize that even tho they lie when they apply for benefits. IRS always find them at the end

[@mizloca5967]

@traybernso if a personal has a legitimate mental disability or physical disability where they truly cannot work they’re considered a free louder? SMH 🙄

[@massdistractions]

Start drawing Social Security and don't spend a dime of it... got it.

[@francesacoy4730]

Thanks for the news stations for telling this story it's the job for the Senators and Representives.

[@jujubees711]

It was their mistake. $120,000 is a lot of money to come up with in 30 days for majority of Americans. The government is unrealistic with their deadlines. They should at least come up with a payment plan to help them pay it back over a few years, interest-free.

[@MrWolfSnack]

it's funny how you americans just take it up the ass and live with it. get a lawyer and fight back. this will keep happening unless something changes with society.

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

They can do that. You have to prove you can’t pay the money back, then they take a percentage of your payments for the next however many years.

[@jameslogue7474]

Government needs that money back so they can send it to Ukraine with the rest of our tax dollars...

[@michellemarshall4710]

EXACTLY!!

[@davidlush7586]

They should pay for there own mistakes not the recipients.

[@dianesimpson2979]

How can social security let this happen? They probably knew for years, people owed money. What a low down thing to do! Evidently someone hasn't did their job correctly. Collect the payments after people die! All yours!

[@Tex_actual]

why not just take the money out of future payments????

[@crystaline1093]

If they don't pay it back. Social security will just stop sending payments to them.

[@glenandfriends9012]

Don't believe you owe any amount the SSA tells you to pay. The SSA offices that spew out those letters do not know the SSA rules & regulations or simple arithmetic. The SSA actually overpaid me, but by far less than they demanded I repay. In my 10-year ordeal I got multiple SSA demand letters (5++) telling me I owed amounts as high as $61,000. Every subsequent letter demanded some lesser amount to correct calculations. After the THIRD hearing the administrative law judge ruled I'd been overpaid only $38,211. She advised the SSA Payment Debt Center (who spews out these demand letters) that the $38,211 did not include any credits for the US Treasury seized from my benefits for 25 months. Nevertheless, after the judge's $38,211 ruling, the SSA sent me another demand to repay $99,000, not the $38,211 less benefits withheld. Ultimately, the SSA owed me by their seizure of more benefits than I owed. Untrained staff with zero common sense. Bottom Line - The SSA in all likelihood overstated what you owe by thou$and$.

[@ranellaflowers9156]

Ask the immigrants to pay the monies back. Why have I worked and put money in the SSA program for 45 yrs and don’t qualify for $1 until I retire because I make more than $28K per yr. But the immigrants are granted free food housing and health benefits and haven’t put $1 in the US SSA system!!! BS

[@neilkurzman4907]

Illegal immigrants can’t collect Social Security. Problem solved.

[@TheFrenchPug]

Another SPOT on question!!!

[@kathileibert5790]

This happened to me. $50,000. I appealed it. After 5 stressful months, I just won my appeal.

[@cittiavaticano]

but people want bigger government in total charge of our healthcare, security, banking system.

[@michellemarshall4710]

I’m a Republican for this very reason!

[@timwright7738]

yup - they want my son to pay back 12k because he was allegedly over the resource limit. The bank data disagrees with whatever crap data they got from acuity or wherever. There are no SSI attorneys to help represent him. I can prove they are wrong - but will they listen? I am afraid the ALJ won't.

[@angelafeldhahn4849]

I am in the same situation regarding my SSI disability for my 10 year old son. It was their mistake, but the local SSA office refused to schedule an appointment for me.

[@antdell8730]

The government F's up, and it's the citizens' fault?

[@benvarela4472]

They NEED that money for Ukraine and housing for the Unhoused here on Political Asylum

[@rimc8783]

This happened to my son after his stimulus checks! He was able to hold the money in his account for 1 year after the last stimulus checks. But they hit him with a 5k over payment bill because he still had his last $600 stimulus check in his bank account. Government is always the most disfunctional organization in the USA.

[@rainbowsunshinekitty3953]

Say what now?

[@sandblast5636]

BULLSHIT

[@tomnodurft9229]

if you collected over $100K, how could you NOT have realized that it wasn't yours???

[@nala3038]

I am waiting for the letter telling me they haven't paid me enough.

[@theaddiechannel6990]

I’m being taxed on my savings account which was over the amount allowed, and the money was from my stimulus checks and economic checks, which I saved instead of spending. Now my disability checks are suspended. I’m not going to pay $14,026.00 for money that the government directly deposited into my bank account!

[@brianeverhart9634]

State of Indiana errored and 3 years after I retired they inform me they had over paid me $5500 in retirement benefits. They said either i pay it back in a lump sum or they would start taking a set amount out each month until it was paid back. NOT my fault but they win. They will be several month getting their money back...LOL. Thank God I have a nice retire income otherwise.

[@Balfoneus]

Indiana is a terrible state when it come to paying out benefits. They always take for forever to send the money and when they do, they seem to have always "accidentally" overpaid the recipient. Had a friend try to get unemployment benefits once. It was a complete and utter shitshow. Glad I moved away from that state.

[@mariesong729]

What the hell man! The woman received an average of 900 per month for 22 yrs and you expect her to pay more than half that back? SSI is not to supplemental income for people. This is their only source of income! What is wrong with our government?!

[@ShuntaeAkins]

We have to stop this

[@ElJuaritozz]

F the government sounds like if we didn’t pay taxes they would have anything

[@donaldjackson4456]

I’m confused if she’s only been getting $900 a month since 2021 that’s only $30,000 how was she overpaid 120,000 on top of the 30,000 that makes no sense

[@kensilva2695]

This happened to me about year or so again. I got a 2nd check. I thought it was weird because I didnt get any info from them that they were sending me another check. So I called and question them about it. They told me its ok. Its not a mistake. So I gave it to my homeless sister so she could live another month in a motel. About 3 or so weeks they sent me a bill for the amount of the check. They wanted it back. So I told them i have to make payments. They wanted $100 month. I said no. $50. Then about a year after, they sent me some info where during the past year there were times they over paid me and times they under paid me. WHAT? This is SS. How did this happen. Over. Under. But the great news is the payment they were taking out of disability check was stopped because of there mix up ,made up for what I owed. I still dont understand how this happened. Some months were over payment and some under paid. How does this happen. And it happened in a whole year.

[@karlbryant5706]

There seems to something wrong, or maybe because ss is losing funds? Hmmm

[@truthlives6107]

SSA needs to take responsibility for THEIR screw up, even when some said they were getting " too much"

[@truthlives6107]

AND GIVE RETHUGLIKKKANS SOME BAD EXPOSURE FOR WANTING TO KILL SSA, ETC

[@mrcaz9164]

If you know you weren't supposed to get a certain amount of money, don't spend what's not yours. They should have notified SS that they were overpaid so that the over payments would stop. I don't feel sorry for these people. They should have done the right thing.

[@datbio7302]

Well, the bottom line is that how would they know if what they get from SS is incorrect? Unless there is a sudden jump in payment maybe a good indicator. But if you have been getting the same since day 1, there is no way to calculate / confirm your actual benefits.

[@Glen-k1g]

Any recipient of an SSA demand for payment letter has 60 days to file a Form SSA-561 Request for Reconsideration (RfR), so ignore the letter's statement "You should refund this overpayment of $X,xxx within 30 days". That is standard misleading language in this SSA form letter. The same SSA debt payment center that issued the demand for payment will review the RfR, which is an obvious conflict of interest. Your RfR will be routinely denied. That would force the SSA Debt Payment Center to admit they made an error. After that RfR denial, file a SSA Form HA-501 | Request For Hearing By Administrative Law Judge. I've requested three hearings since 2013. It takes well over a year after requesting the hearing before the hearing occurred, and that happened three times. Fight these demand letters the SSA spews out without providing any documentation of their calculations. Don't just give in an pay. File the RfR and file the Request for Hearing.

[@charleshines2142]

Why do they want it back anyhow? To go squander it away in Ukraine?

[@PatriciaL-bi8nh]

My daughter is 19 years old and lives with me. I am on social security and disabled.She received a small benefit each month on a direct express card until she finished high school. Her dad died a year ago and social security gave her a death benefit. Shortly after that social security sent a letter in the mail asking for almost all the money back saying they overpaid her. They wanted her to explain why she couldn’t payback the money and why this wasn’t her fault. I think this is terrible! I am sick with my heart and really bad arthritis and her dad passed away. What a kick in the face.

[@ypreuc]

There doing this to me now they want $8800 soo they stopped my checks since Sept also demanding payback in 30 days😢. My husbands only works 30 hrs a week we’re a family of 4 it’s been hard.

[@gladysgarcia6296]

Also my brothers was cut from $840 to $246. He can understand why. They weren’t able to clearly explaine. Now with this report he might be able to do something.

[@powerWithinUs4055]

Just a caution….it’s a team sport. Users need help. Letters have to go as Certified mail, they'll say they didn’t get the request in the allotted 60 days. Certificate of Mailing is $1.95, but needs a post office visit. With the certified tag and proper postage…$4.35 plus the .66 cents for envelope,can be given to letter carrier or put in letter box. Personal knowledge with a relative….they tried to lose her with whining about being understaffed.

[@mynameisworld]

I had the opposite experience. I've been UNDERpaid since Republicans took the majority in Congress and cut disability and even reduced ADA protections. I had to give up my place to live, too, since $600 a month doesn't pay rent. I've tried working, but employers keep saying my disability is beyond what they can accommodate, and the law doesn't require accommodation like it used to, due to the Republicans who limited the ADA. Last year I finally won the case to get my missing money. They have NOT paid it back to me yet. They said they have so many underpaid people that the Social Security office employees are having to work Saturdays to catch up and get everyone their accurate amount back. But it's been nearly a year and I still don't have mine back. They won't catch up with their own backlog, yet they want a woman to pay them $130,000 in 30 days. The Republicans just want us disabled people to die as soon as they can get us out of the way.

[@TucoJames]

You were how old and were still renting ?

[@seriejohnson698]

⁠None of your damn business. Worry about your mamma

[@pinkypooky5779]

It’s not the Republican Party look who’s I. Office implementing 80,000 IRS AGENTS

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

@@TucoJamesI’m 35 and have never been able to afford property. I am disabled and live with my mom.

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

@@TucoJamesI’m 35 and have never been able to afford property. I am disabled and live with my mom.

[@lisaschwartz5882]

This is crazy they can’t expect people to pay the money back

[@bettymajkrzak3816]

They should take the money out of the pay of the people who made the mistakes, like they do to cashiers and bank tellers.

[@kjohnson5932]

What??? The bank cannot and does not make tellers pay out of their pocket. Now they can fire that employee for the mistake.

[@candiceallard2969]

You are correct

[@Nirobiscloset10]

Omg!!! That's sick. Tell the truth the government needs a bail out for these migrants.

[@tvchilltime]

So let me get this straight, if I make a mistake that ends up benefiting someone else, its now their responsibility to make it right? Seems Social Security is in the business of making a lot of mistakes, no worries the recipients should be the ones doing the proper accounting? I call bs, if SS makes the mistake its on them, fix the issue and move on, no need to be harassing people. These clowns have done this to both my parents and its inexcusable how in 2023 they cant get their act together and stop making "mistakes".

[@kennethwilliams7697]

And yet we're sending billons of dollars to Ukraine, leave these people alone the government made the mistake not the people!

[@Glen-k1g]

SSA cannot possibly demonstrate their calculations are accurate. SSA refused at least 5 times to provide me the data showing how they determined my overpayment. The SSA clearly does not accurately calculate overpayments based on SSA or simple arithmetic laws. SSA sent me many demand letters, each saying I owed a different amount ($61,000; $55,100; $51,500; an amount in the $40,000). 19 days after an administrative Law Judge ruled I had been overpaid $38,211, the same SSA Kansas City Debt Payment Center sent me another letter demanding that I pay $99,490. After pointing out egregious errors obvious to a third-grader, the SSA paid me $13,300 for amounts they over-withheld. SSA cannot possibly back their claims of accurate calculations when the spew out guesstimates like mine that wildly vary.

[@datbio7302]

that is a wild ride ...

[@glenandfriends9012]

​@@datbio7302 SSA can spew out a letter saying you owe $56,701, provide no details, ignore all FOIA requests for documents, and refuse to show how they arrived at that number. The appeals process is a classic bureaucratic circle jerk: (1) person told to pay up must send Request for Reconsideration (RfR) form to the same office demanding payment, where the same people who say you owe that much simply rubber stamp their original payment deman letter, saying it's valid. Form allows you to request face-to-face meeting, but SSA ignores that. They've never met or attempted to meet with me in person on any of 4+ RfR. (2) Next, request hearing before an administrative law judge {ALJ} (3) wait 1-3 years for the hearing (4) ALJ either rubber stamps what SSA claims your owe and advises sender of the original letter to collect that amount. Even if ALJ says you only owe $27,000 [giving no reason], original office is free to send you another letter ignoring the ALJ's decision, and demand you pay any undocumented guesstimate of what you owe. If you don't pay, SSA can just withhold SSA benefits and tax refunds.

[@Mntguy-nr9vl]

This was a non-story because the first woman who had to sell her home we didn't find out why she was overpaid?

[@aolvaar8792]

WEP or GPO, Federal government workers, including postal workers, who were hired before 1983 didn't pay social security taxes. Instead, these workers paid into the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS), a different benefits program. Workers who decided to stay in CSRS after 1983 are not eligible to collect Social Security benefits.

[@jayce949]

Thanks for the clear explanation.

[@edruttledge342]

How many of these recipients have voted for "less government" or an "end to socialism." We, those who did ... just got whut they wunted. FREEDUMB!

[@msshe2you]

Happening in Massachusetts too we need to reach out to congress

[@dr.richard.w.meyers24]

I’m on social Security if I have received $100,000 over payments, I would’ve known it

[@evanbrowne1439]

If the government made the mistake, the government should pay. think of it like a car accident. if your at fault you pay.

[@4everlastingkeepsakes]

This happened to my son they gave us pure nonsense on my he was over paid. My son doesn’t work he was a child at the time. So how does he have an over payment when he doesn’t have any income but Ssi.

[@HappyHappy-sq4ij]

No such thing as a free meal

[@emilylovell5976]

Not when the Republicans are in congress

[@erikc7267]

This is crazy. The worst part is, they tell you what you have to pay back each month. How can I repay you if I needed it and didn't make any mistakes in the first place!

[@datbio7302]

your side maybe that you should have double check if the payment is accurate.

[@Ace.trippin]

IRS need to go away

[@almascherck9495]

this ISNT about IRS

[@tr188]

This is happening to me right now.

[@keilaz7253]

This is happening to me now. Have two children on SSI. I report my wages monthly and ensure I do everything correctly. I received a letter stating I was over paid for my children. 6k for each child over the course of a year. The form they sent shows the amounts they supposedly deposited. It’s not the correct amount. One example is, for May they say my kids each received 844, but they really only received 152 and I have the bank statement to show it. Then the months where the benefits are reflected accurately, they said my kids were supposed to get 0.00. This is false as well. I am on salary and my kids payments do not change. I am currently getting my documents ready (bank statements, stubs) and I hope they admit their mistake because I am panicking.

[@paulchezkari6952]

Good reporting, thank you.

[@syedahmed5480]

Overpayment real or false has become fashion, style, and culture of SSA. I experience a false claim of overpayment by SSA and proved them wrong. Employees of SSA probably gets promotion if they create problem of overpayment.

[@TamTran-hy8dj]

Peoples won't reports if they got more moneys, but when they get to pay it back ,they are crying

[@HeronPoint2021]

This could be avoided in both Canada and the USA (I get SS and SI from both countries) if that fund was ONLY used for those who worked for their retirement check (cheque in Canada) and disability and other programs came out of general revenue. That way if you're overpaid you know damn well you're getting too much in your account. This is an account EARNED for revenue, not welfare.

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

SSI is taken from the general fund but our paychecks from work have a separate Social Security tax that goes into that account. SSDI, Survivors and Retirement are insurance.

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

This happened to my mom. She verified MULTIPLE times that the amount had been correct, and they garnished over a year. It almost happened to me but I revealed the “overpayment” that wasn’t actually one was due to a bank error that put my mom’s assets as my own.

[@927Cole]

But an extra 6 trillion to Ukraine was no biggie.

[@neilkurzman4907]

6 trillion what? rubles.

[@TheFrenchPug]

E X A C T L Y ! ! !

[@amyreynolds3619]

Typical right-wing nutjob ignorance on your side. Helping other countries is part of being a global economy. Guess you have no problem with Jarvanka getting major deals with China ?Or Saudi Arabia?

[@Crazy-Horse-Tx.]

How about you get those billions back from Ukarine ! We work for that s.s.

[@neilkurzman4907]

No, Boris, you didn’t work for it. Don’t you have a front to go to?

[@SolidSonicTH]

All these SSA overpayment stories I'm seeing on KZbin are hitting in the last couple of months. There seems to be a sharp rise in interest in this problem on the media's side. This egregious bookkeeping seem to be unrelated to the other SSA issues we're dealing with, it's just badly run and not actually properly tracking the incomes of people collecting.

[@leolennox1209]

If a cashier gives you too much change, you are not entitled to keep it just because the cashier made a mistake.

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

No, you’re not. But this is more akin to “Hey cashier you made a mistake, here’s your money back” and they go “What mistake?”. Ten minutes later they’re at your car demanding you return the change.

[@davidadams2395]

It's mostly the agency's fault. According to SSA, _“The beneficiary or third-party provided the information we requested, but we failed to use the data/information to validate accuracy prior to making a payment,”_ the agency reported.

[@leevahal900]

Unemployment Insurance is doing the same grift style clawback claiming money as overpayment when they quarantined lowered requirements and approved anybody that applied while they closed their doors and quarantined claiming the same benefits.

[@racingwithnogas]

Americans should demand access to their contributions

[@TheFrenchPug]

Gee, I wonder how much $120 billion that we easily forked over to Ukraine could have helped out the SS fund?

[@racingwithnogas]

What if the entire working class starts filing exempt 🤔

[@karensaunderssaunders4102]

This happened to my son. They need to hire people who know what they’re doing.

[@peterbedford2610]

How about checking out all people over 110 Years old still getting checks?

[@richkline5087]

And voting Democrat at 110 years old🤔

[@TheFrenchPug]

That's because they're dead in a freezer in the basement while their offspring are living off their checks.

[@richkline5087]

@@TheFrenchPug you get it🇺🇲

[@TheFrenchPug]

@richkline5087 Always a good idea to have a deep freezer 😀

[@richkline5087]

@@TheFrenchPug I have Two🤔 and a fridge that converts to a deep freezer

[@carolynsteed3649]

FYI, money that was taken out many yrs ago has never been replaced, how sorry.

[@stanleyanderson718]

😊😊 how about the money the government took out the Social Security trust fund, and never put back how about the people get together and sue to get that money back that belongs to the American people you see it works both ways

[@The-E-Dude]

If you are under age 67 and make over $22,500 a year you have to reimburse S.S. $1 for every $2 you go over. That is if you make $32,500 a year you will owe S.S.$10,000 / 2. However, you could make payment arrangements up to 36 months ahead. However, by the time the request gets into their dated / slow computer systems, you will have already paid the overpayment back.

[@gmazboog9050]

This keeps happening to my neice who has autism this is ridiculous it does cause hardship

[@ceilingunlimited-cp5kq]

Been happening with my Daughter who has autism & developmental delayed disabilities also! SS is an absolute joke!

[@cristianvargas2876]

Oh well Americans are struggling and Ukraine got 96 billions todays this is fuckthup

[@judgeclark8017]

This happened to me within my first 3 years of being on

[@Faithoverfear2911]

Me within the first five months...they are saying they got the wrong date of onset disability and change the onset date to now

[@piperleelee]

If Biden wants student debt forgiveness then it should extend debt forgiveness to these recipients also.

[@richkline5087]

Biden administration mistakenly gave Ukraine an extra $6 Billion of tay payer funds and didn't want it back.

[@mynameisworld]

It isn't up to him. It's up the the Republican-controlled Congress.

[@richkline5087]

@@mynameisworld SCOTUS already shot that down. Republicans aren't looking for Student Loan forgiveness. That was a Democrat plan to get votes for the Midterms. Democrats knew it was Unconstitutional

[@TheFrenchPug]

Absof'inglutely!!!

[@powerWithinUs4055]

Congress is so busy with their assets, they come to work to tend to their portfolio…they don’t know this is going on. It’s up to us to give them the truth of what is going on. It costs nothing to email them, your two senators and one Congressmember. You should have their webpage on your desktop. You can letter mail any of the 535, but online contact is only your three…..oh, how many adults in your household? We should be highly suspicious of this. You are either Full Retirement Age or not. You are employed or not, you have spousal or not. If I answered truthfully, in writing, if there’s a mistake….it’s on you. Be suspicious….too backlogged…oh, but let’s try this.

[@robertewalt7789]

If the over payment is $120,000 it must have gone on for many months, and been substantial. The recipients should have noticed a huge increase many months before.

[@libertatem_aut_mori_conatur]

Social Security says it doesn't make loans. Money Given to be paid back is a loan

[@Hbd2002]

Maybe if they would update their antiquated system this wouldn’t happen. It’s ridiculous to make people have to pay for the Social Security’s mistake.

[@truthjusticeintegrity]

I was not able to collect my Railroad Benefits at all (money that I paid into it) I also seen where some recipient's were criminally charged .So the ones that had their money clawed back better be thankful they are not going to jail on top of losing their money. NOTE: I have also seen reports that the Railroad Retirement Board spent a quarter of a million dollars on ammunition ? Why does a Retirement Board need ammo ?

[@MarginWalker]

Pay back what you stole please. Thank you!