Society Is Crumbling. Here’s Why.

[@plasmaarmelund]

I got divorced at 47. Got enough time left to rebuild, enjoy freedom, and live my life on my terms. It's been hell to get to this point, but it's worth it. I often think about how my life would be if I was still married to my nagging, complaining, never happy ex-wife. And it makes me smile knowing that I escaped, still have my sanity, my health, and good relationship with my children.

[@kahvac]

It get's much much better from here ...promise !

[@vidiot9000]

You’re a lucky man!

[@ricvanwinkle1665]

Just starting over @59 and it’s a bit strange

[@kahvac]

@@ricvanwinkle1665 I knew people that age that never seen 60 ! Life is good !

[@MrBBaron]

@plasmaarmelund glad you were able to escape from your spider web. Enjoy the rest of your life ,single and free.

[@Mike-s7h5l]

Dual income has destroyed society. Not only is it harder to find jobs, wages have stagnated, houses are too expensive, and kids are being "raised" by daycare workers. Regarding women with a career, which I have nothing against, there are consequences. When a woman gets a career, she is effectively working against her own hypergamy, making it harder for her to find a partner.

[@john-griffin]

I think you nailed it there man that’s perfect

[@JohnVanMeter58]

When we went off the gold standard we also went off the moral standard. ​@@john-griffin

[@Blackraptor1234]

​@@JohnVanMeter58 we were way off the moral standard before that.

[@samiamgreeneggsandham7587]

One of the best first halves of a book ever written is Elizabeth Warren’s Two Income Trap, in which she describes how virtually all the additional family income from working wives/mothers goes right back out the door to inflated home, childcare, and education prices. Unfortunately Warren spends the latter half of the book on how government can fix the problem with more subsidies and interventions, rather than facing the facts of human, and women’s nature.

[@andre1987eph]

And no children

[@shawnmcdaniel435]

Pretty simple solution if you ask me. Stop punishing men for getting married. Instead, give them an incentive to do so.

[@john-griffin]

And maybe include an incentive for people to stay married

[@vidiot9000]

Well, you’re still faced with the near impossible task of trusting the modern woman.

[@Tyler-wl8kq]

You just nailed it brother

[@nickvincent3029]

Yep, so simple, be more Hungarian. At least one Western leader has it right. Well done Orban. That’s why the EU hate him.

[@MrBBaron]

@vidiot9000 very true observation.

[@RichardHitchcock-ig4lj]

Western society is crumbling. We in the West are not as wealthy generally because the rest of the world has caught up. The biggest mistake of the 1980s was to outsource the means of production. We don’t invest in productive capacity, which includes education, and have therefore become less productive. A service economy doesn’t really create wealth, making things does.

[@szakachdekapolna4372]

We're investing now in sickness, Woke agenda

[@RG-cz1tc]

Yes, I remember when all the "wise" economists were saying that we had progressed beyond manufacturing to a "service economy". At the time I thought what was happening was that third world countries were thus doing the opposite. We know how it has turned out.

[@szakachdekapolna4372]

@RG-cz1tc Now you entire economy exist only to serve as piggy bank. I think people with funny hats are in profit with it.

[@_nebulousthoughts]

@@RG-cz1tc there's no such thing in the age of automation.

[@martykimble9999]

Don't forget about the abundance of regulations, fees, taxes, and permitting needed to get started.

[@Savvynomad225]

Men are being silenced and shamed

[@john-griffin]

As it has been for a long time

[@davidglad]

@@john-griffin At least easy to give them the silent treatment back by hyper-saving and not spending in a society that despises our mere existence. Concept of shaming men is stupider as one of the obvious responses is to just back away further from their foolishness.

[@louislamonte334]

Absolutely true!!

[@the.parks.of.no.return]

@@davidglad think carefully where you spend your money

[@mrbill2600]

In the early 1960s, I attended Catholic School and while on the playground 2 boys got into a fistfight. Two sisters were watching and the younger one started to go over and break up the fight but the older sister stopped her and said "Let them settle it now or it will only escalate." A few minutes later they both had bloody noses but one stood in triumph over the other. The older sister then went over and gave both boys detention for fighting and sent them in for first aid. The next day I saw the same boys walking to school with their arms on each other's shoulders ... They remained friends throughout the rest of their school years.

[@john-griffin]

Exactly!

[@samiamgreeneggsandham7587]

Boys and men talk smack with each other, bully and gaze each other, and commonly treat each other in ways many would consider abuse. But at the end of the day, they don’t mean any of it. Women compliment each other, show empathy and provide a shoulder to cry on, and offer unconditional support to each other. But at the end of the day, they don’t mean any of it.

[@kennethmcgurn3830]

In the late '80s I wrote that women shaming women out of their homes and into the workplace were selling their daughters into economic slavery. These mothers had a choice to work, their daughters would be required to work with no gain in lifestyle in that higher priced economy. However, my newly hired female boss killed the column.

[@MrBBaron]

Men are not going to college because they want a skill that Is needed such as a plumber, electrician, mechanic, trucker, heavy equipment operator, etc.. These skills pay well. They are not burdened with a huge college debt. If you are in a STEM program, getting a degree in that field is worth college. Because men avoid marriage or having kids men don't have to work as long and earn more than what is needed for themselves versus what is needed to support a family. Men can have a good life without that family. As an old divorced boomer, I advise men to not get into huge college debt. Go to a technical college and earn a good living without debt. Live single, live free.

[@Savvynomad225]

They are also not burdened by the longhouse

[@davidglad]

Even if in theory some mechanics, truckers and heavy equipment operators might eventually be made obsolete by either automation or technological change (likely not that soon unless by regulation), single men also are also versatile and adaptive enough to find another strong hustle if they want to remain in the workforce. Especially unmarried means easy to move.

[@DeaconChriss]

That's a very good plan

[@Wong-Jack-Man]

I run across so many college grads females baristas and bartenders, its not a trope. Too many chiefs not enough indians.

[@vidiot9000]

No woman on Earth needs a Master’s in Arts History. And tax payers shouldn’t be on the hook for their poor investments.

[@DavidSmith-xr8js]

You seem like a very intelligent man John. You are correct, this country has become very divisive, politically, socially, spiritually, economically and gender wise. Nobody gets along very well with each other on any level. Everyone only acts in their own best interests. I miss the 70s growing up! My family didn't have much mo.ey. but we had each other. Today is so different than I had hoped when I hit 60.

[@john-griffin]

Mine too. I often got a toothbrush in my stocking at christmas! But, we had a nice life. Not nearly as material as we have now.

[@Blackraptor1234]

The rot had on started then. Its how societal rot happens. It takes decades to happen. And gets ignored until it can't, and by the time it is acknowledged it is too late. The cycle of civilizations is a fascinating thing

[@theglobalvagabond3074]

Gen X here. My High School was mostly men and most of the men were Vietnam vets. I didn't realize at the time how blessed I was to grow up around men during my early years. Before that I went to summer camp that is was all men. It makes a huge difference. I can't imagine how I would have turned out if I was raised by women in every aspect of life. To this day, I don't know how my metal shop teacher managed to keep all of us safe from losing fingers eyes, limbs and life. The things we were allowed to make in class would be illegal today. We even had a pistol range in the basement of the school. I thought this was normal because nobody raised a fuss. Going shooting in the woods, making throwing stars and crossbows in shop was a normal as putting on your shoes and socks. I didn't realize how things changed until I retired from the military (which was mostly men) and started integrating into the general population. What a mess!

[@Thor-o1v]

@@theglobalvagabond3074 They want feminized men because weak men do not fight back

[@ItalNico]

I made some bad decisions in my youth that led to me having to start over with nothing in my late 30s. I spent years rebuilding my health, career and finances and married for the first time at 45. I wanted a family more than anything but my wife was not on board and five years later our marriage has crumbled to dust. At this point my only goal is to end this toxic relationship so I can focus on my health and work towards retirement and enjoying my hobbies. I do worry about the state of the world, but due to my age and life experiences I just don't have it in me to try finding another wife to start a family. One of my life goals is to become a writer and hopefully share some of my knowledge with younger men in the hope that they don't make the same mistakes I did. Since I've accepted that I will never have any children, it's the best I think of to do at the moment.

[@savannahannalay7296]

As a woman, I'm curious-do you regret not having your life together at a younger age? I understand that there were things beyond your control. But when you have to start over at 35, behind in life in so many ways, do you ever think about or regret that you might never be a father unless something extraordinary happens? I don’t mean to be rude, but as women, we often feel pressured to achieve things like marriage and children, which can sometimes lead us to rush into relationships with the wrong person. Do you, as a man, ever feel that kind of pressure? Or does it only become apparent later?

[@MrBBaron]

@ItalNico focus on improvements in all aspects of your life. Have a few good friends and get some enjoyable hobbies. If you haven't already get a dog as they bring a lot of joy into your life. You are still really young enough to find a nice girlfriend,if they still exist, if you miss that part of your routine but certainly never get married.This message is approved by an old divoced boomer.

[@gettingschooled3094]

​​@@savannahannalay7296I'm a guy. We don't have the same time limitations as you girls. But we have the pressure to choose correctly also. We are scared of getting screwed over. A 45 yo guy who never got screwed by his ex would happily still have kids but a 45 yo who got ran through by his ex usually won't risk it again. Being called abusive for no reason and not seeing your kids, just so she can inflict revenge and get a bit more money is something we don't readily sign up for again. Some do.

[@ItalNico]

@@savannahannalay7296 Regret is something I strive to avoid as it serves no purpose. I can only focus on the present and do my best to prepare for the future. My mistakes were of my own doing and what is most important is that I restructured my life so as not to repeat them and became a better person for it. Since you asked, I definitely felt a lot of pressure to marry and have children from my entire extended family. Even so far as some of them tried to set me up with single women. But the truer desire to become a father was just something I was born with as I felt it at a very early age and it was nurtured by helping raise younger siblings as well as nieces and nephews.

[@duaneh1973]

You have plenty of time to have children. Work on yourself and your goals. Women will be there and the child will come. You have men in there 60's having children.

[@oscarm.1417]

The notion that If you can make it through the first decade, you're safe is utterly meaningless now. I've met plenty of men in their 60s and 70s who were shocked to learn that their multi-decade partners were leaving them without any remorse; not to mention taking their life savings with them. Imagine having to reinvent yourself at that age just to keep a roof over your head.

[@jonmueller2117]

Feminism resulted in millions of women entering the workforce, this made jobs less valuable. Thus, wages went down. Now it takes two incomes to buy a house, etc. No blame here it's just economic reality.

[@john-griffin]

True

[@user-gh8sg7oc9r]

I blame the @$$hats before my generation that fought for and pushed that crap on society. My generation and Gen Z had no say in that, but we are walking away from women and the status quo.

[@user-gh8sg7oc9r]

Wrong. The generations that ushered in fmnism are solely responsible for this outcome.

[@duaneh1973]

We can't leave out social media. I'm pretty sure social media destroyed my marriage. Everytime I looked up, she was on her phone. Women like to compare their lives with people they don't know. Then wants the husband to make it happen.

[@John_Wood_]

same here. I told her at the end if they were making a statue of her, it would be her sitting staring at the phone. It was beyond soul destroying seeing it constantly.

[@duaneh1973]

@John_Wood_ exactly!

[@DeezNutz-ur7ro]

I think that was a you problem haha. You must be boring bro

[@armyparrot9353]

Totally agree with everything. The first step is the state and governments should stop adding incentives to divorce and separate the man from the kids. Have consequences for cheating ( no alimony or payouts).

[@john-griffin]

Great idiea, thanks

[@josebro352]

That's a very smart idea and I agree with you wholeheartedly. If a spouse cheats during the marriage he/she should not be entitled to compensation after the marriage dissolves. Why should they be rewarded for breaking their marriage vows and their dishonesty!?

[@brianhall8097]

When Ronald Reagan change the rules I believe back in the 60s he signed a bill that was no fault divorce which he later admitted that he regretted signing that bill hurt a lot of men and marriages

[@Blackraptor1234]

Are you gonna bribe the politicians with the money needed for that? Also no politician would commit political death on that issue.

[@armyparrot9353]

@@josebro352 The only difficulty will be when the woman stops having sex with you for extended periods of time and becoms unbearable; the urge to cheat will be there. I'm not sure how to deal with this aspect. Ideally financial marriage should have limits on how much someone should benefit to your self made wealth. For example say you are a CFO accountant when you marry your wife that worked as a nurse . Before you married she lived in a small apt paying $2500 for all expenses ( rent food utilities) and moved to your nice house she could not afford. You stay 3 years together where she contributed with some basic things such as electricity, the internet, the municipal taxes and school taxes and half the food for about $1500 a month) . Basically less than her old expenses the same but living way above her means. The relationship was a hot mess, she had no time for the relationship ( worked, slepted) and you decide to split up; also you found she barely did anything around the house. At most the right thing to do would be to pay for her moving expenses, let her keep all gifts and at most pay half for any temporary reasonable cost short term housing for her to find a new apt. Anything other than that is not justified at all.

[@Stephen-il6cy]

John, here in Australia it is the same. In Sydney you need $1.8m to buy a median priced home. The birth rate is falling off a cliff. You have open borders to make up for it, we fly them in over 2m out of a population of around 26m in a couple of years. I have heard it said that the Government is like an abusive parent. They don't love you, they are not interested in improving family fortunes. Once I accepted this everything they do makes sense. Best you can do is carve out a small piece of sanity somewhere and and wait for nature to take its course.

[@Henry1965ism]

Amazing isn't it that we have Australians working full time living in their cars or in a tent because they can't afford rent. Yet we have all these 'migrants' that find a place to live the minute their feet touch Australian soil.

[@tanthaman]

Sydney is cooked mate. I left for Vietnam

[@Edward-my9nk]

Good points. I’m a family law atty going on 30 yrs. You’re spot on with trends- not good

[@john-griffin]

Thanks!

[@nomad6086]

63 yr old boomer. Widowed (2 kids). Grew up in a middle-class household. Back then there were many two-parent income households. Both my parents worked & we're school teachers (my mother 3rd grade & my dad HS). I was on a HS state championship football team in 1978 & about half the varsity (~45 players) were from two-parent income households. Some of the more female orientated jobs back then were school teachers (mainly elementary school), nurses/medical assistants, secretaries/receptionists, grocery store cashiers, law clerks, librarians, school bus drivers, etc. On the political front, we're so polarized that's it's not even funny anymore. The battle lines have been drawn: Left vs Right. They hate each other & they'll never get along...ever! Both parties are full of political zombies. It's getting so bad now, I see more & more profiles of women on dating apps that clearly state "If you're a Trump supporter, you need not apply!" & "If you're on the Right, don't bother reaching out to me!" 😯 There's so much hatred with both sides. We're going to end up as the "Divided States of America." People will just move to & live in either the Red or Blue state that they align with. And Congress will continued to get nothing done other than to become wealthy from all lobbyists & donors. 😉 Lastly, marriages fall apart simply because women just are plain bored. They're attention & validation mongers. Lol. They're looking for excitement & euphoria from guys admiring them on social media & dating apps. They looking for a Chad or a new Chad in cases where they were married to a Chad: Tom Brady's ex - 44 yr old Gisele Bundchen dumped him for her hot 37 yr old Jujitsu instructor that she's now pregnant from! 🤣🤣🤣

[@jeremyrohrer2360]

Great video, men finally know female nature

[@john-griffin]

Yes, thanks

[@christinecortese9973]

@@jeremyrohrer2360 Hey, I’m a 72 year old widow and younger women seem alien to me. I’d say “men finally know denatured females.” They aren’t natural, they’re created by a hostile ideology.

[@petermautner7052]

Oh it is female nature. Fleece men. Move on to next simp. Fleece him. All women eventually hit the wall. Female nature.

[@williamread8186]

There was this experiment called mouse utopia where a mouse city was set up that could hold a population of 6000 mice in complete comfort. When it reached 2000, the population collapsed. During that process the mice stopped breeding. All sorts of mental anomalies skyrocketed. The male mice became became effeminate and the female mice more aggressive and so on. It seems like I see a lot of similarities today especially in the cities. Mental illness and stuff like that is skyrocketing. Boys being diagnosed with autism and ADHD at a rate of 1:22 now (formerly 1:10000 in the 1960s). There was a podcast between Rudyard Lynch and Tom Bilyeu (impact theory) According to Rudyard, rural and religion are necessary to grow populations and he said that even in Roman times this was the case. I don’t see a political solution here as this problem is beyond what government can solve.

[@zuckthebetacuck2789]

True. Big, sophisticated cities are dehumanizing. Brings out the worst in people.

[@ji1787]

nothing will change until some major disaster comes and erases almost everything .. this consume idiotic world is just doomed beyond words ..

[@MX-CO]

Certainly seems that way, and another big big issue is greed. When is it ever enough? It seems no matter how rich the rich get, they just want more and more. Now, many houses, boats, cars do they think they need,

[@nomad6086]

​@@MX-COWe're a society of haves & have nots, the wealthy & the working poor, etc. And the wealthy just blame the have nots & the working poor for their demise. Sad but true. 🙁

[@ezr168]

Enjoy life while we have it

[@metestube]

One solution I can think of: Starting a marriage should not be as simple as signing some documents and paying small fees. Those who want to be married should be required to provide a prenuptial agreement. There can be a default prenuptial agreement provided by the state. This may force partners to think and have reasonable expectations from their marriage and maybe keep it.

[@tomleykisfan7280]

Been single for 20 years - by design. Semi retired at 45, now 55 I refuse to work full-time and pay tax into the system that wants to destroy me.

[@mr100x6]

shared custody of the children (50/50) would prevent women who seek to hurt their ex husband from using divorce. Then nothing to pay if both agree to raise the children at the best of their ability, only split the assets if there was no prenup signed. People would think twice before asking to start all over again from zero and instead push them to figure out how to fix the issues.

[@bobbell6485]

Me and a few friends have exactly this deal, basically 50/50 down the line. Everything is negotiable and the solution to excess divorce settlements is to lobby for rational divorce laws. Some women are already complaining about the child support and/or alimony being awarded to men where the woman earns more. Lots of the comments here seem to come from powerless men or men that don’t want to try and improve the cases where men get unfair legal treatment but just go live in a cave. Women got their rights by lobbying and protesting for them over many decades and men having to admit the old situation wasn’t just. Many men commenting on YT seem to be the counterparts to the whiny women put up as bad examples to laugh or complain about and seem to want to revert to the 1800’s. Men act like they can’t lobby for men’s rights in divorce. Sorry but I don’t think women and girls are the property of husbands and fathers like they were or basically were in the past. Women couldn’t get credit without their husbands signature until the 1970’s. Sorry but I don’t want my daughter or nieces living in that world. My mother married a narcissist ahule and our family would have been much better off if she had divorced him before we were all grown- I still have a good relationship with my mom but my dad’s clueless and none of us care about him or his BS and even all those years ago he didn’t pay enough for the trauma he caused as the male being divorced for cause (it wasn’t a no fault divorce). The coin toss goes both ways in marriages.

[@martijnvdbent6908]

I can only explain it as evil has taken over. The society is ill.

[@allgamebeija]

@@martijnvdbent6908 evil has the star of david as its symbol

[@martijnvdbent6908]

@allgamebeija maybe. Islam is evil too. Just look at the life of their so called profet Mohammed. Those in Islam dare not criticise it because of the backlash of their own environment.

[@unbelievable-4u]

the way things are going...we are 'extinctifying ourselves'. I got divorced at 53. The lawyer fees and the support payments are killing the savings. there are none, really. I am 60 and contemplating how to reduce my debts through legal methods. Also just trying to focus on keeping my health up through exercise.

[@wat5513]

Sorry to hear that you got cut down. And still paying for it at an advanced age. Just comparing notes: I'm 40. Just extricated myself from the devil. Looks like i might as well focus on what remains in my life.

[@Thor-o1v]

Sell everything, take your money and leave the country. Never return.

[@andre1987eph]

I taught public school in California up to 2018. They were driving male teachers out at a ratio of 30 men to every 1 woman teacher.

[@shirleygriffin7672]

True

[@john-griffin]

I believe it completely

[@bryanjones8778]

Just curious... What tactics were they using to drive out the male teachers? Thanks.

[@Brent-z2s]

I'n Louisiana also it's only women coaches and a few men with connections of fields where they can't find anyone. When I went to school most school bus drivers where men because they where all standards with a lot of stops to make and you have to downshift every hear with no coasting. And no ac. When they went to automatics with ac they are now mostly women who refuse to break up fights.

[@Brent-z2s]

​@@bryanjones8778 they stack mens classes with the worst kids and much larger classes and they refuse to enforce your referrals.

[@twofarg0ne763]

I left the US 7 years ago, so I'm not really interested in US politics anymore. I will say that a common thread in the EU since Jan 6th is the view that the US has become a third world country... corrupt politicians, the widening gap between the top 1% and everyone else, the power the corporations hold over the economy, the power investment firms hold over the housing market, a complete disregard for veterans, homeless fill the streets in larger cities, the rate of crime in large cities, and the fact the police will stand by and watch crimes happening and do nothing about it.

[@lawrencelawrence3920]

As a 72 year old baby boomer i think that my growing up years were much better than the present. Sure there were some difficult things but we had the best music, opportunity, cost of living, outlook for the future.

[@svartvist]

74; Ditto.

[@ChrisKettle-j6w]

Great topic. I just went through all of that with my 38 year marriage stay home mom had to give her almost $2 million packed her bags moved to another state left our community our friends, my two boys what a mess. Thank you for the insight. Great job.

[@Zachw2007]

I’m 39, & 40 next summer, and I have never had a serious girlfriend in my life. Thank God! I plan to on working a job I like until I’m 85, staying debt free, and living cheap.

[@tomleykisfan7280]

I have watched the western world shit on men for the past 45 years (I am 55) so when the religion of peace, equality and fairness starts doing what it does I will look the other way. The west has brought this on themselves.

[@robertanna9964]

Scott Galloway had done a great deal of work on the mens issues addressed here- And you're spot on about the shift in equality of income and wealth distribution in America. You don't need to read the numerous writings of Robert Reich to know this. Consider this single fact- The 4 surviving heirs to the Wal-Mart fortune are worth more ($342 billion) than the bottom 40% of Americans. And the great mobilization of woman into the workforce? That's just part of the deal that Reagan made with the rich in the 1980's. It also went like this- You (The government) will stop taxing us (The rich) as you've been doing since the 1930's (marginal tax rates at 90%). And don't worry about the massive budget deficit this will cause because we (The rich) are going to let you borrow it from us, instead. Wealth and income inequality exploded as a result. This is why your mom HAD to go to work. Real wages deflated. Productivity exploded. And our generation (X) came home to empty houses and frozen dinners.

[@mikejames9642]

As a single man at 59 with two daughters, 24 and 29, and working for a global corporation, I agree we have major problems going forward. I can tell a big difference in how 29 year women view themselves than 24 year old women. Women are rapidly outpacing men for top jobs. Society is telling men to sit down, shut the F up and pamper your wives and daughters. Michele Obama basically said that this week. Social Media (and our government) is encouraging women to be the head of your household, proclaiming you don’t have tell listen to a man, just have plenty of sex and abortions if needed, be vain, how you look is of utmost importance. Young boys are still typical boys. Young girls are learning to take selfies and get manicures. The future looks problematic.

[@afoolandhismoneychannel]

Michele Obama is no woman......

[@mafp22w]

I have to sons, 28 and 25. I would love to have grandchildren, but I think my sons need to get their passports out if they have any chance of forming a family like they grew up in. One is a CPA and the other is an Electrical Engineer. They are 5’7” and, as far as I know, they have never had girlfriends. Why bother today?

[@michaelwhite6614]

The solution is so ridiculously simple though, men keep their willys and their wallets in their pants.

[@RG-cz1tc]

I remember growing up in the late 50s, we lived in a new suburban neighborhood, wives stayed home, most people had nearly new cars. Now women dominate college and that leads to their overpopulation in the professions, such as the judiciary, law enforcement, and now in the airline industry. John, I would be careful about demonizing the Elon Musks or Jeff Bezos. We have always had corporate wealth, back to Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford, yet even with them, we progressed. The hollowing out of our manufacturing to other countries, the championing of "free trade" by economists who sit secure with tenure on campuses, and the buy off of our politicians by foreign lobbyists, these have robbed our wealth.

[@jamesleblanc4066]

It's an issue that's going to boil over. Lots of people are not getting married or having children. I'd say in the near future you will see vasectomies becoming so prevalent in society, at an early age.

[@jrnumex9286]

vasectomies for what? keep the tools in the garage in case you need them.

[@MX-CO]

I got a vasectomy at 45

[@duaneh1973]

I got my vasectomy at 29 with no children; that I don't know of. I saw the writing on the wall when I was 14.

[@KennethFabritius]

@@jrnumex9286 Would YOU want to impregnate one of these 3O4's out here? Celibacy is a joke. If you're not getting any you are NOT a man. But you should still make sure not to give your seed to a 3O4 who will treat you as an ATM with the well-armed $tate ready at her back.

[@michaelwhite6614]

@@jrnumex9286 sex dolls

[@nothingtosee23]

It's not about college it's a little about money but mostly about status. Had a friend just married talking about a status car? Worked at a refinery and talked to a chemical engineer come out of retirement because his wife wanted a bigger house not paid off but bigger four bedrooms two stories is not enough. I say let it crash bring on the pain we will thrive and survive.

[@Mike-s7h5l]

When someone is empty on the inside, nothing in this world can fill that emptiness.

[@billmacia4092]

Divorce law need to be change. They are clearly one sided, so why would men marry?

[@johnsmith-up2of]

Spot on sir. No wasted words. Sanity lies in the middle

[@john-griffin]

Thank you!

[@PaulMartin-ut9lj]

Really good, thought provoking content as always John. Thank you 🙏

[@shirleygriffin7672]

Just got up from a nap today. This is not a new issue, society is crumbling , Greg Hunter, Alex Newman, Jeremiah Babe in Palm Springs CA, Peter Schiff , author, Ted Broer, CEO of Healthmasters, divorced Judge Joe Brown, Doug's Casey take, living in Argentina, Matthew Bracken, Michael Yon, John Rubino & others have been discussing this topic for years. Crazy world folks, and challenging times now. ...................... stay safe and healthy everyone

[@dews3340]

So true, we have been watching those guys for years and reading their books too. All of them are spot on! The 'so called' America dream has been DEAD for decades & marriage is no longer............ Be careful , child FREE here ❤😂😂

[@PelvisPresley7294]

Love how you are walking out in nature, almost an analogy for things going back to their natural order.

[@suefleming]

I'm a new subscriber. You are very insightful ... I love your channel..👍🏼

[@john-griffin]

Thanks and welcome! I appreciate your support!

[@jksinorbit]

So glad I grew up in the 70s and 80's we had strong male role models, often ex military who took zero crap from us kids. We also still had corporal punishment too, we learned fast !

[@fredstriker2042]

It is all by design gentlemen

[@kin-of-orakio]

So it's claimed. But that sounds like cope to me.

[@poopingwhilestanding5801]

@@kin-of-orakio Honest question….how old are you?

[@dippin1523]

absolutely

[@MX-CO]

Designed by who? More like a side affect of greed and idiacracy

[@tonystoops7802]

@@MX-CO nailed it.

[@joel3792]

I think Divorce laws are indeed the issue. Something I heard joked about, actually is starting to make sense. Like a lot of licenses, marriages should be renewed. They seem to have a accurate calculation for child support, but then cant seem to do “Maths” on alimony or assets. Require a snapshot of finances before marriage, and divorce should end close to those percentages, then add conditions (if a spouse quits a job, sickness, who gets the kids, etc).

[@bobbell6485]

+Alimony should last for a limited time if it is awarded. Yours is one of the saner and functional comments that JG requested.

[@jackdeniston6150]

Laws always follow behaviour.

[@suefleming]

Weak men focus on women. Women focus on strong men. Strong men focus on their mission.

[@mike9512]

And strong people focus on the relationship, and each other equally.

[@suefleming]

@mike9512 ideally, yes !!😊👍🏼❤️

[@mike9512]

@@suefleming but so many men keep listening and admiring people that tell them to put their hustle and mission first and are then shocked when women don't want to be put 2nd. It's like, you picked a strategy that entirely relies on making a ton of money to work, but that doesn't always happen. And then they still don't put it together. They hustle, don't get the relationship they want or the amount of money, and then just blame democrats or women. No, your strategy was terrible and the person selling it lied.

[@suefleming]

@@mike9512 I have so many men friends that have been divorce (financially) raped in court and they are disgusted with women and I don't blame them.

[@mike9512]

@@suefleming But there are so many reasons why that could be the case, and men keep listening to answers that will only make things worse. Example...my parents split when I was 5. My dad thought she was cheating, when she wasn't, and was shocked when it happened, even though the writing was on the wall for a long time. And even though my dad blamed my mom, do you know who fought to keep me separated from my dad? It was the lawyers. It wasn't women, it was the lawyers. And my mom had to fight like hell to find one that would give me open visitation with my father, but she did. She did that because even though she didn't love my father, she loved me and knew he was a good dad. My story does not have to be an outlier. It is very much possible to go in a direction where that is a common occurrence. The direction men are going though, is not that. And Nov 5th is sure as f*** not a direction that will make things better for men, unless the man was just sexist all along, in which case, it's a win.

[@MotorSagla-k5f]

Thank you for your thougts. I totally agree. I'm from Austria, we have the same problems here in Europe. Nobody cares about😢

[@Thor-o1v]

Except men care now, men are talking, men are gathering. And change will come from our talking or we will force change. That is what men do.

[@zodiacleo5865]

Another great video John excellent stuff. Thanks for your observations. 😊

[@al-bsure4284]

I think they should make marriage a contract that you renew annually. If a person leaves; they only leave with what they came to the relationship with. Make custody 50/50

[@WeeklyHealthShow]

Great Points John

[@john-griffin]

Thanks

[@tennesseerednek]

Just found this channel.. thank god! It’s like hearing all my thoughts said aloud.. good job sir.. more men need to hear your message

[@john-griffin]

I appreciate that

[@daviddr115111]

Remember bush in the 90s talking about new world order? Well here we are folks.

[@jburch1544]

"Fewer and fewer"rather than "less and less." One of the few people on Utube who uses proper English. Shows you are well read

[@john-griffin]

Since I’m not using a script and I’m just speaking off the top of my head for all these videos sometimes I get tongue tied so don’t hold me to that. Sometimes just finding the right words to communicate a thought can be a challenge.

[@Guitar6ty]

We live in a very unbalanced and unfair world. Would you buy a 93rd second hand car with high mileage a faulty engine management system and comes with a very high maintenance cost and a huge deposit.

[@gregorylatta8159]

We are seeing super high inflation. Canary in the coal mine.

[@marksoberay2318]

Careful here, because over critique of society and unrest always leads to pressing the reset button on society, in other words; war

[@retarteddwarf2182]

It's as if no one smelled a rat back in the day when they convinced women that working outside the home was the place to be and proceeded to flood the work floor with a new source of exploitable cheap labor all in the name of "empowerment". Back then they didn't need to soften the boarder for fresh warm bodies they just needed to convince women that they were chumps for raising children and needed a corporate job outside the household in order to be fulfilled. We live in the post consumer materialist nightmare we have now because of all this cultural non-sense promoted by people who want to stay in control to your detriment. They would rather lord over chaos than have something more honest beyond their complete control.

[@69spook]

"Strong families are our best safety net"....👌 Yep I agree.

[@hadiitiniguez2393]

I thought that being married was a noble thing to do. I was so wrong.

[@josiah5776]

You're 100% right about the small extreme factions trying to dominate the discussion. I am probably one of those small factions, given my past experiences. I was divorced, taken to the cleaners, lost my child (who was later alienated against me), and had to pay both an annuity to my ex and she was awarded part of my retirement. In a later relationship I was falsely accused and spent two years of hell + $300,000 defending myself and proving that she lied. Nothing was done to her. I don't really have an un-biased or moderate view of American culture. Right or wrong, I perceive it as man-hating. Rather than stay and be bitter and poison the attitudes of others, I left for another country that more closely aligns with my personal values and treats men better. I will not remarry, or ever even enter into a relationship again, in the USA. Sometimes a new start in a different place is better. Keep up the good work. What you discuss ... needs to be discussed.

[@GSFlood]

Most educators are far left. Are used to sell tax-sheltered annuity’s in the public school system. Only a few were conservatives I remember a gym teacher who had a Ronald Reagan photo in her office but almost nobody came down to her office. Lol so she was safe we used to joke about it, but it really is no joke.

[@tdgdbs1]

When I was in primary school, we had marksmanship as physical education; highschool parking full of pick ups with rifles on rack on the rear window. Good old days in Texas.

[@basemanawakens6089]

Your friend Ronnie is the person who kicked off deficit spending....which is one of the reasons why America is finished.

[@bobbell6485]

I had several neo nazi teachers and no far left ones. Had two schools where prayer was pushed for one specific religion and I am not religious. Had a bunch of high school pregnancies where the guy wasn’t forced to marry and raise the kids. Lots of Reagan fans and republicans dominated with tax cuts for the rich, deficit spending, dog whistle racism, etc. Anecdotes aren’t evidence of anything. If it weren’t for immigration the US population would already be in decline as it is most places. There’s a lot of heated rhetoric in comments and JG loved quite a few of those despite asking that it not happen and maybe discuss sane, middle ground solutions. I’ve only seen one comment that did that.

[@Mike-s7h5l]

When people focus on extrinsic "values" such as money, power and fame, the fabric of society falls apart. When people focus on intrinsic values, such as helping others and passion for something, the fabric of society remains intact.

[@summmmmmable]

When a woman can be “equal” and do the same as man! We lost our compass and purpose to be a provider, so we decided to go with our own way!

[@OziBlokeTimG]

You nailed it John, my thinking exactly.

[@TreadmillWalkabouts]

I would like to say I appreciate this channel. Really quite something. Even the hardest comments seem to come from a place of people who have tried. A new philosophy, just in time.

[@sarangsosi3195]

The autumn forest path is truly beautiful. We too can grow old beautifully.

[@john-griffin]

Autumn is a beautiful time of the year. I think the autumn of our life is a beautiful time too. It’s wonderful to have wisdom and still have your physical health. It’s a blessing.

[@sirg-had8821]

45 years old and the desire to have a wife is well and truly gone.

[@Mark8v29]

If average income doubles, average costs double. If the wealth of the customer increases the retailer increases prices to get their share. If the wealth of the customer decreases eventually the retailer will decrease prices. Hence increased income only increases purchasing power if few others are increasing their income. If most people increase their income to a similar degree then quickly the increase is made powerless because retailers increase the prices accordingly. This is simply observed by visiting two neighbourhoods or countries of very different economic status and observing that the prices of the same product differ accordingly.

[@sachawisznia9685]

My ex took EVERYTHING, but the BLAME! 🤪

[@ricvanwinkle1665]

I love your videos. They actually bring me peace as I see we share similar situations, even though I feel alone I know we have been through the same if not worse and I’m grateful for your help thank you.

[@GagePhoenix]

Very well said. Thank you!

[@scorpgod_38k]

On point with this perspective!!!

[@john-griffin]

Thanks

[@davidglad]

Given the title, it's pretty funny to refresh and see a Harris ad. PS I've obviously thought "gray divorce" a horrible idea. Unless a marriage was that extremely bad. You'd think by that age people know what they want and can work out their differences. And that message to younger generations.. it's a lucky fluke I never got serious/married. :)

[@psi23k]

It's easy. Double the income taxes, double the interest on mortgages, double grocery bills, double everything. No wonder. It's all by design. More money for the higher ups.

[@InvincibleExtremes]

you're wrong on where the money went. it's simple... the boomers were the biggest voting block in their working years and workers had the advantage... as boomers became older they stopped voting for the working class and voted (with their dollars too) for better investment returns... and EVERYTHING became an investment vehicle. Homes, classic cars, and the God awful private investment firms... Some boomers at the top profited heavily, while many failed to prepare and are now the fastest growing population of homeless. The boomers sold out America as a whole starting with the 80s, and peaking around the late 90s... before the crashes that followed.

[@northernmichigan4108]

53, going through a divorce with my much younger soon to be ex with three young kids. Getting absolutely screwed by the system. May just end it all.

[@josebro352]

Don't do that! If you do then your ex wins and she'll think you were weak. Fuck her. Show her that you're a fighter and won't back down!! Hang in there! Things will get better I've been there myself. Good luck!

[@bryanjones8778]

It sucks going through it, to be sure. However, if you are like a lot of folks, when you come out on the other side of the divorce, you will feel like you were set free. JMO.

[@929cbr_rr]

At 53 you have time still to set yourself up as a single man to have a comfortable retirement. Hang in there, it gets better, much better.

[@northernmichigan4108]

@@josebro352 Thanks

[@MX-CO]

​@josebro352 I've been there, get in shape, eat healthy exercise, there's plenty more where she came from. If you really can't handle it, than move else's and work for cash.

[@stevenlevstik1020]

You're incorrect with regard to the cost of living. The economy is not a zero-sum game where economic winners exclude other players in the economy from succeding. In fact, if you confistigated the entire wealth of the top one percent, it would not cause a dent in our economic problems. It's our government, and nothing more that is causing our economic greef. One case in point, our current government is inviting millions of new people into our country, while at the same time making it more and more difficult to build new housing.

[@pauldeal547]

Excellent, John, thank you for the facts!

[@speedbird3955]

Nice drone work.........

[@john-griffin]

Thanks ✌️

[@marklane61]

Society is crumbling because of greed

[@melenico4512]

Essentially you have two polarising energy forces hitting each other with no balance. This is marriage now in recent times.

[@jackfenton2271]

Walk away, and don't look back. I have completely disengaged from people. It's just not worth the disappointment.

[@bitsurfr46]

John I contine to be impressed with the clarity and depth of your insights into our culture which are better than the so called experts out there. I strongly suggest you commit your ideas to paper and publish them in a book. This will increase the size of your audience and garner some needed publicity to cause others to take your message seriously.

[@TheDarkHorseRides]

Now they get 2 workers for the price of one, two incomes to afford one house

[@midragga]

IT'S ALL BY DESIGN! IT'S ALL BY DESIGN!

[@williammartinez3883]

When i was broke and had zero i was the crazy clown,,,,now that im paid retired and live like a king guess who wakes up every day with a huge smile on his face,,,buck the crowds,,,never follow the crowds,,,walk your own walk even if it means you walk alone!!!!

[@scooterwoodley195]

Currency debasement has killed single paycheck families, not rich entrepreneurs that employ hundreds of thousands of people. When a govt can print as much of their currency as they want, the value of that currency decreases and more of it is required to make purchases. The value of your house didn’t increase, the currency got less valuable. That’s what has happened, along with a lot of social change and emboldened a-holes.

[@bryanjackholder6911]

Grab a clipboard get your own signatures and run for public office to air these grievances!

[@thewanderer2041]

You’re right, it’s going to get a lot worse. I don’t see how things will improve without some extreme decisions.

[@JesseWickline]

The current laws and social norms definitely should be discussed/revised regarding divorce. The man is at an overwhelming disadvantage and is financially forced to put up with poor behavior and disrespect (unless he can maintain the frame). This is far more important of an issue than many people realize. I fully agree with you That it should be discussed in a rational manner.

[@JaceFalcon]

In working class families alcohol is a larger factor. Both typically drink

[@cousin_JACK]

Great summary of our current demise. What’s that saying- better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all

[@levansegnaro4637]

The male vote doesnt matter. Women live 5 years longer than men in the Usa, they will always be the majority of voters (53%) as long as they have the right.

[@Job.Well.Done_01]

There’s a ballot box in my work parking lot - I have been seeing ten times the amount of women dropping ballots off than men. All the men I’ve seen dropping ballots of are older, grey, balding men with polo shirts on. It’s Easily 10 female voters for every male voter where I’m at.

[@TriadTradingOfficial]

thanks for the advice dad

[@byroncummings2952]

I guess I was thinking ahead of the curve in the 90s. I knew back in high school that I didn't want a wife or kids. I thought I was awkward but now maybe just looking ahead. And I was 6'4" and 200 lbs back then.

[@RJG340]

Im 59 yo like John, I i know a lot of younger guys all though there 20s that aren't in College but went throught trade hools, there is one of they, pretty much everyone of them I can think of have good jobs, after all how many lawyers can you have, you need people in the servive and manufactoring sectors this is what keeps the wheels turning😊

[@Late60sMusicFan]

No Fault easy divorce encourages serial polygamy. Convince me I'm wrong.

[@ttocselbag5054]

Even across the interpersonal dynamics aspect, it’s still about “the economy stupid.”

[@riseup902]

College - College is not worth it these days for the most part and alot of degrees are useless. Kids are piling up 100K+ worth of debt and end up working at Walmart. The curriculum is outdated as well as colleges are still stuck in the 70s and 80s and neither do you gain any real life skills. On top of that the K-12 educational system is so broken that its creating kids that are basically "dumb". I know it sounds harsh but its true. The kids are so messed up as well that they even stop showing up to school and the school just keeps passing them along to the next grade despite failing their classes. And alot of these kids end up going to college too just to drop out with a bunch of debt as well. Its a complete mess. Marriage - I definitely agree with the various points made in this video. I'd like to add that alot more people especially guys are still living with their parents just because its hard right now to live out there on your own. At one point in time a min. wage job used to cover your basic expenses, and today it won;t even cover 1/4 of it. Generally women won't date guys who are still living with their parents, and they definitely look at earning potential of guy. Typically his earning potential needs to be at least as much as her earning potential perhaps as a way to ensure that he provides and she doesn't have to after marriage. So she'll quit her job and now her husband can be the main provider. You can argue that alot it stems from entitlement as well. Whatever the reasons are, its not helping at all. Until men and women don't learn to work together as a unit, then we are going to have a lot of dog loving men and cat loving women running around. Divorce - The whole institution is fucked up. It needs to revamped with the current times All I can say despite everything that is going on, we need to stay positive. Even in the darkest hours remember to light a candle and keep your head up straight. There's light at the end of all of this.

[@tomleykisfan7280]

STEM is still useful.

[@JosephCollins-mk5ro]

Healthcare is a prime example of the industry favouring Women. 70% of Global Healthcare Staff are Women . In Russia for example over 70% of Medical Doctors are Female! And Health is a vital aspect for everyone including Men. Great video by the way😊