"Revealing the Cochno Stone" by Dr Kenneth Brophy

[@harrowgateguy]

The decision to bury it was drastic but showed incredible forethought and an understanding of the importance of something they didn't understand. It showed a respect for everyone who would come after them and their right to know about our past and gives future generations a chance to comprehend something we don't.

[@helenhunter4540]

What a different approach to assuming the experts in prehistory and rock art should have sole say over how the stone is used. The level of trust in local non-experts, and understanding that the stone belongs to them in a real way, made me breathless. In a good way.

[@leucocephala]

I really appreciated that too

[@teelesynclair5902]

I did archaeology at Glasgow, Dr Brophy's lectures were always great, informative with a twist of humour, he made them memorable. Also, he taught me at the field school, had a great time there and learned so much

[@scottmclennan6114]

Thanks for this very informative presentation.

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

Looking forward to the analysis of the geoglyphs.

[@skilgannon1971]

I was up there today and of course the stone has been recovered. It would be nice to be able to see it in real life but it was buried 6 years before I was born, however there are other smaller cup and ring mark examples in the area within a square mile. I grew up here and this was my playground. I've been lucky enough to have seen these multiple times in my life and the whole area is steeped in history.

[@Barbreck1]

What is your interpretation of the markings, John? Being a local lad, I wonder if you know if there's anything in the markings that might relate to the local geography?

[@skilgannon1971]

@@Barbreck1 When I was young and before I knew about the Cochno stone itself or the theory about the link to stars / planets I actually simply assumed they were maps to other settlements or worshiping places. The set of markings which are pretty clear off the public right of way path towards Craigton (about half a mile north of Cochno Road) have markings that you could attribute to the locations around the local area. "Druid Rock" (local term) for instance which is a fairly large rock in the middle of a field about 1.5 miles from these markings (and to the West of the same path and North West of these markings) and which also has cup and rings on it could quite easily be attributed as a location in the markings, as could Court-Hill, a Roman Fort which is about 3 miles away and thought to have been a settlement way before it was occupied by Romans.

[@Barbreck1]

@@skilgannon1971 This was my interpretation too, John. I have thought these as maps to the next stone circle, fort, roundhouse, temple or river crossing. That seems the most logical or instinctive interpretation in consideration of neolithic man's immediate priorities (to navigate between settlements). I can accept the stone circles interpretation as a study of moon phases and seasons, but the cup and ring marked stones seem much less organised as a methodical record and much more random. Far more like features in the landscape, man-made and/or natural.

[@OMGAnotherday]

Hi John, I’m from. Clydebank and I’ve never heard of the Stone until today (YT browsing). I’m pretty certain if my Dad or Uncle had heard of it, the 7 kids in our 3 families would have been ushered up there toot sweet, as we were always outdoors in those days and Dad and Uncle Bob were both into visiting historical sites. (1961-67) but then Dad moved south for work and we didn’t get back to Scotland till the 1980’s We used to head for Loch Lomond and Balmaha which is equally drenched in mystery. I don’t know about you John, but I can still feel a sense of the ancient whenever I go to those kind of places. 🌅 I also found this www.wikiwand.com/en/Cup_and_ring_mark

[@Dillonmac96]

@@Barbreck1but are this is a stretch.. why would they need a map to their own area? Unless it does line up then sre they connected by rivers or ancient pathways? The mounds in Ohio similar time period they have proven alignments for the mound builders that date back 2000bce some.. i think it’s harder for us to imagine being hundreds of years in a different direction of evolution they were tribes in the wild hunting along side of mammoths.

[@stargazer6675]

Fantastic academic and community work in one. Great for the local people.

[@OwbuR.N]

Wonderful

[@thedruiddiaries6378]

Build a protective glass building over it and open it up with an enterpretive centre.

[@BaltimoresBerzerker]

To those upset with the focus on more modern carvings: you do realize that to even begin to understand this art work, one must discern what is ancient and what isn't. If you don't exclude the modern, it will corrupt any attempt at understanding the ancient. It's essential to the research, and fun. I would much rather be focusing on the ancient, but it's a start.

[@RoscoesRiffs]

It's fascinating. I like to imagine it is a depiction of the developing sky as seen by a single prescient astronomer who survived the great war of the planets. This genius knew humanity's tiny post-cataclysmic population would be unlikely to pass on the terrors of earth being hurled violently from her warm, brown sun into her present orbit. His permanent representation of the sky would be the only physical reminder of that brief and forgotten terror.

[@RErikWeigand]

Why not act to install a building over and around the stone? A small barn or garage would do.

[@hellooutthere8956]

R. Erik Weigand because they are Scots and dumbasses.

[@boomtish4520]

sharon anderson much of modern archeology is non invasive. Grow up.

[@skilgannon1971]

@@hellooutthere8956 Idiot.

[@par576]

I lived in the Faifley in 1964. I walked the dog up to see the Cochno Stone on a very wet day. I did not know the significance of it and although the carvings were obvious I just wanted to get out of the rain! It was covered in soon thereafter.

[@knicholson6003]

You didn’t say if the dog you took to see the stone was impressed.

[@arthurrobinson2604]

@@knicholson6003 At that time the dog was not impressed as she knew nothing about ancient art. Nor did I!

[@par576]

@@knicholson6003 Yes. He peed on it!

[@animalswin2105]

What I can sum up from this lecture and the work that lead to it is that Scottish archaeology focuses on recent human interaction and vandalism, and especially about the drummed "engagement with the Community", be it locals living near or the schools being drawn to "engage" their pupils to do some doodling work that in, the end, ad NOTHING to the understanding of this unique European archaeological work. I have visited most Palaeolithic and Mesolithic painted caves in France, and cannot imagine for one second the Ministry of Culture there deciding to bury the 28 000 years art works because local thugs would drink in the caves etc. etc. Anything of big cultural value over there is protected and researched. It seems that in Scotland it is above all a medium to "engage" the local bleeding community ...and to NOT analyse the at itself. I am speechless.

[@skilgannon1971]

Nonsense. Added to your poorly formed espousing from the person you're responding to, this is an educated and descriptive account of a piece of history that lay on my doorstep. I of course knew about it growing up in Faifley but was born 6 years after it's burying - which was the only way to stop the bams coming in and defacing it at a time when they couldn't monitor or protect the site. What else could they have done? Oh and people don't change too much so in lieu of anything better - they covered it back up again. Also - involving children to understand the history around them should be applauded - not decried for trying to promote awareness. Not really sure where the cowardly comment comes from either - what the hell have you done to promote awareness of local interest?

[@magshamilton]

Faifley started 1949 it's just a pity there building a battery storage facility in the area

[@howtorecover1358]

Very enjoyable lecture

[@davidallard1980]

Did you guys figure out how to read it yet? If not Id be happy to teach you.

[@jonathangraham8904]

I live in the area and I'm really interested in the stone, I think there's a crop circle vibe too it, what do you think?

[@grobbler1]

Does anyone have any more information on the History Channel programme? When I spoke to the film crew onsite they mentioned transmission late 2017. I've contacted the History Channel, but their less than helpful reply suggested I should just keep checking their programme schedules.

[@raccoonresident5760]

One of the features has a park on a hill. It’s wooded. So someone should check it out! Lol

[@NeonFuxAlot]

A visitor centre should be built and Glass put over it and shown off to the world not some crappy replica

[@bradleyeric14]

Replicas can be full size and accurate.

[@Argrouk]

Was any scanning done to see if anything was underneath it?

[@OMGAnotherday]

I’m no expert, but I believe they can’t scan “through” stone.

[@Argrouk]

@@OMGAnotherday depends on the technology, they have scanned the pyramids. You could also dig a trench beside it and scan from there.

[@sadist71]

i'd love to read Miss Douglas's dissertation.

[@bonchance9241]

Art ? it looks like an Ancient Sky Map a Map of the Movement of the Stars

[@markmacdonald7955]

Agreed 100%

[@ottodidakt3069]

definitely looks like a map, many constructions being round in the mesolithic and after maybe it could be a map of localities in the local or broader region ? rock art none the less !

[@redeileen369]

The Chalkno Stone!

[@nibiruresearch]

The Cochno stone refers to the most dramatic event in human history. That's the approach of the 9th planet in our solar system that gets close to the sun and other planets every few thousand years. On the left we see three increasingly larger circles, which refer to the approach. At the top center we see a square cross in a circle. This is a very often seen symbol of this planet. The many images with concentric circles refer to two factors. Planet 9 is surrounded by a spiral cloud of dust and meteors. The second factor is that it resembles the well-known labyrinth. Also found worldwide. The natural disasters caused by the 9th planet follow a cycle of seven. This creates a pattern of seven civilizations that, depending on their place in the cycle, have more or fewer inhabitants. To learn much more about planet 9, the cycle of recurring floods, the recreation of civilizations and its timeline and ancient high technology, read the eBook: "Planet 9 = Nibiru". You can read it on every computer, tablet or smartphone. Search: invisible nibiru 9

[@marcharsveld2914]

Tnx. You only forgot to reveal the name of the person who fabricated the carvings.

[@raccoonresident5760]

What the symbols mean? Go to the symbols in the landscape! It will tell you why and what for! Guys it’s a map. Of the area where it was found. Not a star chart. The hills are the swirls.

[@manufacturedfracture]

It kinda looks like a map. Either of houses Or of burial grounds. Imagine using this auth an Ariel view of the local area and excavate a spot and find something! Or it could be farming methods. Like crop circles. Just my opinion.

[@kolloduke3341]

if you go to killmartin glen theres a massive face of stone thats cxovered in cup and ring marks very like this ...

[@dannymack9636]

It looks like a map of other monolithic sights. If this turns out to be true gees a shout.

[@jeffreypacker8608]

The concept for the Flintstones came from reality. I am pretty sure this is a regional or city map, in reference to stars.

[@garyrmckenzie3719]

Close but no cigar.

[@jonathanfreedman4764]

Do we want it buried or left uncovered. Simple answer we want a visitor centre. Maybe get in touch with visit Scotland about funding for it and ways to create interest and money from tourists visiting the site. I think we need to understand the ancient rock art far more than the graffiti of modern times. After all nobody visits the pyramids to view the modern graffiti, well 1 person was fascinated to see his grandfathers graffiti there Graham Hancock. My own personal interest is in the age of the site when was it carved originally is there any way to tell, clearly a marble found onsite will not give any indication of the age of the site regardless of antiquarians using this dubious method to date sites. I had heard there was a very expensive modern method "luminescence tests" for dating stone but have no idea of the accuracy of this.

[@lorraine3567]

Disgraceful - if this stone was roman it would have been preserved and protected - but since its pre-roman, its left to ruin and neglect.

[@kc3718]

incorrect, many roman mosaics in the UK are re-buried, and plenty of romano british sites are no even scheduled as ancient and protected monuments and thus are lost during 'development.'

[@t00by00zer]

Looks like lots of plasma discharge around a bunch of different extra terrestrial bodies.

[@raccoonresident5760]

The lines are site lines. They are directing you to the barrows around the area. Fuck and I thought Scott’s were smarter than buying into stories.

[@johndarwen6991]

This could be an old road map! What makes you think it's a star map! A map of a city! Or a map of a country!

[@colmonhs]

I couldn't understand most of his speech

[@vamboroolz1612]

colmonhs for which reason could you not understand him?

The mystery of the Flood and the Scottish Stone BlocksIs the road cautious but question? How did the picts survive in a common ancient language in the sixth century? The pictograms have an ancient religious significance, and to this day, in the spoken languages, they contain the phonetic letters (perhaps the first and the first, the meaning of the religion of mankind!) INDOBASE - methodology The methodology of the religious foundations of Indo-European susceptible agglutination and tongue tongues! J - Ó - good - pictograms (Eastern Asian roses) Whether or not the K, S (ch) consonants The O - vowel if we can not find the consonant M - = W. You can also see the NYUGAT - west N pictogram! the Sicul Hungarian alphabet The west - N and the sky - E are pictograms The most important pictogram is the S - pictogram The snake's shape is very similar to the OG-G consonant Full of sunspots The question is NT or K sound - sicul - K - kobak, - The NT is also in the snake - the VAS - sicul end tone - SCH pictograms and S - = I - pictograms How did these ancient religious content be captured by the pickees? How did J-Ó- - J-E-W-E O = EWE - - the sicul alphabet of Á-J - = E- Ú-J - A = E-U! YOU ARE = ​​YOU - A-J - RE! That is, the R-consonant has the good consonant of the good J-Ó sicul pictogram. (JEWE - U - J - Y - U - good - u j = NEW - NEW. JEWE - good - new - nü - nö = women - Hungarian J-Ö-N (come) - - VENIO - VEN - I-J-Ó If j-ö then J-Ó - good then Ú-J- new! we have to be more cautious with the language COME ON - COME - JON! Constructed J - consonant! The pictogram has many J pictographs! The linguist has read the Latin content well, but the Latin text has also been pronounced J - consonant J - consonant - It has a decisive role in the identification with the God of the afterlife as a God, that is, in the form of a human being, to live in the afterlife. Arbroath! - ABERBOTOK! - ÁJ - BER B-EWET - JÓK - LATIN LYUK FOR LYUK Luogo (J) OGO - LOK understands the heavenly hole! LOCATION - LJ EWE KE- UJ- T - Z - Í- JON (English where it comes) ER - POWER POWER - POWER - POWER - ER - with its power !! The role of the sacred place of the river when a church clergyman performed the ceremonies on the river bank MINT BASILEUS - B - J-A -S- J-L-E -J-U-S! God! INDOBASE! We must be cautious with the Latin language COME ON - COME - JON- venio! KEWE-M JE - EWEN-shed J - consonant! There are many J pictograms on the plot. The linguist has read the Latin content well, but the Latin language text also has a J - consonant! J - consonant - He has a decisive role in the identification with the God of the afterlife as a God! That is, in the human form live in the afterlife for God! In the UK! HEAVEN or VAT - WEN? OR H - YE - U - WEN? In all ways - J should be a consonant! Although the W - N couple - the J - consonant has a religious role - without it NEW! N-Y-E-W - N-J-Ü - Ü = E-W - based on the alphabet! The NEVI - Latin Italian snow is only snow! INDOBASE !. Not yet VIE - French LIFE! - L - Á I - J - FE! Icons of the Alphabet I-J - pictogram! ERAT ADU. c i -NDEM Let's just stay in this Latin form for real ancient content! - MAKE - INDOBASE - ME - JU - RE - Ú - T - AJ - DU - K DU C - TSCHIJE - leader CSI - CTSCHIE - NEW - KEW - INDOBASE! KU - WEN IS SCREENING OR K - NEW WEN - To stay with your ancient religious content! INDOBASE methodology is still unpublished Dr. András Szabó

[@billkarmetsky4003]

Who made the decision to bury this incredible important artifact?!? 1887 was it discovered and studied throughout the 1960's. The some evil moron had it buried.

[@panzerlieb]

So much graffiti. I wonder if that was all it ever was? Nothing more than Bronze Age graffiti. Added to over thousands of years.