The Terra Blade rework... for better or for worse?

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@sockrteez
@sockrteez Жыл бұрын
What are you guys thoughts on the Terra Blade rework?
@TR_Emp
@TR_Emp Жыл бұрын
I think it's better as it has way more range and speed although I miss the distance the beam travelled.
@maisiesmydog5194
@maisiesmydog5194 Жыл бұрын
It forces you to play as more of a melee character, which was a necessary change.
@chilliwantsyou
@chilliwantsyou Жыл бұрын
Definitely a buff mainly because of the infinite pierce and aoe of the projectile. I recently played through terraria focusing on melee and the terra blade is strong enough to shred the moon lord unlike before
@lmaobruh4809
@lmaobruh4809 Жыл бұрын
Great amazing crowd control and easier use but it does do less damage on single
@trxpp708
@trxpp708 Жыл бұрын
I love it so much, and surprisingly it’s valid for moon lord
@terraSpark902
@terraSpark902 Жыл бұрын
What's interesting is that the new terrablade fires a projectile with every single swing, something that the old terrablade and other projectile swords don't do. Basically the effect this has is that melee speed is more effective at increasing damage for the new terrablade then usual. So if you're looking for solid mathematical proof of a buff then a melee speed build is what you're after.
@I_Am_The_Microwave
@I_Am_The_Microwave Жыл бұрын
I always thought melee speed was better with this update
@juliaf_
@juliaf_ Жыл бұрын
@@I_Am_The_Microwave considering you can autoswing anything without needing to use an accessory slot for it, attack speed is actually useful for everyone now :) plus, it's way quiter not having to spam click
@terraSpark902
@terraSpark902 Жыл бұрын
@@I_Am_The_Microwave on paper +4% Damage, +4% Crit chance, and +4% Melee speed are virtually mathematically identical, you can imagine however that a weapon that already has a high base stat would benefit more from having that stat raised. For example a weapon with "50 speed" and 10 damage will benefit from 10% melee speed more then 10% melee damage; 5 additional speed over 1 additional damage. Yet even still a small damage increase like by 1 will still become more effective if the weapon applies that 1 extra damage very very quickly, that basically shows that damage, speed, and crit chance will stack multiplicitively. Thus when deciding what to reforge your accessories to you should go with 2x Menacing, 2× Violent, and 2× Lucky rather then all Menacing because the 3 different stats will essentially multiply
@aSleepyDustySleeper
@aSleepyDustySleeper Жыл бұрын
I agree!- It truly shows how this weapon can be utilize the multiple ways now!
@bananafoxYT4616
@bananafoxYT4616 Жыл бұрын
I in general though that it’s just better than the original and does more dos despite the massive base dmg nerf
@WeezerFan505
@WeezerFan505 Жыл бұрын
Cool that the nights edge and the excalibur combines, the projectile of the nights edge, and the aoe effect from the excalibur, makes the terra blade.
@locrianphantom3547
@locrianphantom3547 Жыл бұрын
The night’s edge has an AOE too.
@Lunarcreeper
@Lunarcreeper Жыл бұрын
@@locrianphantom3547 but excalibur is larger
@WeezerFan505
@WeezerFan505 Жыл бұрын
@@locrianphantom3547 i meant the main purpose, usually if you want aoe damage you just use the excalibur
@ResoundingHysteria
@ResoundingHysteria Жыл бұрын
@Kola AreaOfEffect, they mean the giant “energy” around the blade whenever you swing it
@gremlinman9724
@gremlinman9724 Жыл бұрын
long projectile range of TNE, high speed of TE, high sword range of TE, crowd control capability of both.
@realgoodude
@realgoodude Жыл бұрын
The Terrablade feels so much better now, it's actually crazy. And it already was my favourite weapon before the rework!
@placeheld9232
@placeheld9232 Жыл бұрын
Yep can easily take you to moon lord and anyone who says it's a nerf is just blinded by nostalgia edit it's projectile fires every swing
@LikeToSayE
@LikeToSayE Жыл бұрын
@@placeheld9232 fr
@realgoodude
@realgoodude Жыл бұрын
@@placeheld9232 i actually beat moon lord with it in my recent playthrough
@placeheld9232
@placeheld9232 Жыл бұрын
@@LikeToSayE yeah you can see it on some other terra blade vids kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5rMZ4eXfdt3bqc
@SomeCowguy
@SomeCowguy Жыл бұрын
@@placeheld9232 its nerfed unless you spend countless hours gathering accessories to get enough melee speed to make up for it.
@ravynbunny7193
@ravynbunny7193 Жыл бұрын
Something important to mention is that the new projectiles happen each swing, not at a set interval while using the weapon. This means that now, swing speed modifiers and reforges can now drastically improve the damage much more than flat damage increases.
@jinxxdd
@jinxxdd Жыл бұрын
true, u can get really high dps
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
The old one’s rate of firing projectiles actually _decreased_ as its melee speed increased.
@shyawkward
@shyawkward Жыл бұрын
The new terrablade feels like an overall buff due to a massive increase in it's defensive utility, quality of life/ease of use at the slight costs of single target DPS.
@jinxxdd
@jinxxdd Жыл бұрын
u forgot - it has a slash every swing, instead of having a shoot time, use higher melee speed buff and its even better
@RaidenKaiser
@RaidenKaiser Жыл бұрын
I find it harder to use because the projectiles are too wide now they tend to get stuck in some of the most ridiculous terrain especially in tight spaces
@kindahungry8505
@kindahungry8505 Жыл бұрын
@@RaidenKaiser then slap em. Usually when that happens ur in a cave and the terra blade can just kill most of not all cave creatures with it's melee.Not to mention the increased melee range. Unless ur talking about the dungeon then just use the influx weaver it was better than the old terrablade anyways.
@Eewewe
@Eewewe Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s a bit more then a slight loss of damage for single targets.
@RaidenKaiser
@RaidenKaiser Жыл бұрын
@@kindahungry8505 was referring to post plentera bosses like golem
@cloin1955
@cloin1955 Жыл бұрын
The increased velocity and size of the projectile just makes it infinitely easier to hit enemies with, and in 99% of realistic scenarios you're going to be dealing more damage against an opponent
@TheGreatCyberwolf
@TheGreatCyberwolf Жыл бұрын
Someone once compared the Terra Blade to the Influx Waiver, and I gathered that TB is better for crowd control while IW is better for single targets. This rework only reinforces that the Terra Blade was always meant for swarms of enemies
@Sunnysideanyway
@Sunnysideanyway Жыл бұрын
Influx Waver is good against slow moving targets though, it's damage potential drops off greatly when fighting EoL because the projectiles that spawn after hitting her will usually miss.
@thegamingraptor9113
@thegamingraptor9113 Жыл бұрын
but now it shreds moon lord
@TheGreatCyberwolf
@TheGreatCyberwolf Жыл бұрын
@@thegamingraptor9113 I'm not saying that it's ONLY good for invasions and such, I'm just saying that's where the changes are most powerful
@thegamingraptor9113
@thegamingraptor9113 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatCyberwolf Alright thx for letting me know
@helios2664
@helios2664 Жыл бұрын
Influx waver’s gas, the old buffed terrablade actually outperformed it in the single target department. It needs a buff honestly.
@TR_Emp
@TR_Emp Жыл бұрын
I think it's better now. Wider range is really good and the speed is a lot more.
@shenzhong3078
@shenzhong3078 Жыл бұрын
I just realized the old ones army is going to be easier with the terrablade, going for Betsy weapon might be worth the time to get now
@stonechad_squirtle
@stonechad_squirtle Жыл бұрын
betsy sword kinda goes dummy too ngl
@SomeCowguy
@SomeCowguy Жыл бұрын
Nah, progression goes Fire flail Lights bane/fiery greatsword for skeletron Nights edge after skeletron Tne/Te Terra Blade Meowmere Zenith
@SBerrioww
@SBerrioww Жыл бұрын
@@SomeCowguy oh uh.. I was more like Zombie arm Beat the eye of Cthulhu Lights bane Beat skeletron Blue moon Murumasa Blade of grass Volcano Firey blue moon idk Nights edge Soon more (new play through)
@SomeCowguy
@SomeCowguy Жыл бұрын
@@SBerrioww i meant as in "melee only"
@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079
@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 Жыл бұрын
@@SomeCowguy ur insane if you actually think lights bane is as good as volcano just because it has a shitty damage slash lmao. its a preboss weapon
@Sunnysideanyway
@Sunnysideanyway Жыл бұрын
Not every weapon needs to be good against bosses, it being great for the pilars alone makes it a great secondary melee weapon.
@ember2933
@ember2933 Жыл бұрын
You obviously haven't seen the video of the new Terra Blade destroying Moon Lord on Master Mode, For the Worthy.
@helios2664
@helios2664 Жыл бұрын
But if you learned how to aim it, it was already good for both bosses and crowds…
@zenith9849
@zenith9849 Жыл бұрын
@@helios2664 did you not watch the video and see how the old terra blade literally sucked balls at mob clearing compared to now?
@helios2664
@helios2664 Жыл бұрын
@@zenith9849 Yeah, but you’re wrong, it could handle mobs just fine. New terrablade is marginally better, but it could handle crowds too.
@angrypepe7615
@angrypepe7615 Жыл бұрын
@@helios2664 yeah good luck consistently aiming the old thin ass projectile on a boss that actually requires you to dodge. You can say "just learn to aim lul" all you want, even the best players aren't hitting 100% of their shots on a boss like Empress, Moonlord, and especially Fishron. If you did have really good aim before, your DPS is probably going to be about the same, and everyone else's is going to be way higher. There's also the fact that it's outright better against events, since it has way more pierce, making it so that you don't get overwhelmed, which could happen with the old terrablade.
@gabemckelvey6779
@gabemckelvey6779 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the melee weapon changes feel like a move away from precision-based weapons towards wide, sweeping ones, which I think will help the melee class feel more melee and less ranged, and I'm very happy with that.
@watermelongaming3698
@watermelongaming3698 Жыл бұрын
It definitely makes actually using the swords as swords much more viable.
@PhantasmTerraria123
@PhantasmTerraria123 Жыл бұрын
I love both the old and new Terra Blade ;) Keep it up sock🦆
@maisiesmydog5194
@maisiesmydog5194 Жыл бұрын
✌️
@glordxd
@glordxd Жыл бұрын
No way Phantasm real
@piotrekwrebiak5345
@piotrekwrebiak5345 Жыл бұрын
That's true i love them both too!
@damnthisisabadname
@damnthisisabadname Жыл бұрын
Dark stacking tho
@potatobro501
@potatobro501 Жыл бұрын
No sword feels more awesome to get and use than the Terra blade. Yes the zenith is a better sword, but to get it you mostly just grind bosses or events. While the terra blade is a sword that actually encapsulates the journey of making the blade from the volcano to the nights edge and finally the terra blade.
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
The boost to both projectile speed and size make it far, FAR more viable against fast-moving targets like empress, and small targets like the weak spots on moon lord, which the old terra blade traditionally struggled with. Not to mention, the old terra blade’s projectile actually fired slower the faster its melee speed is. The current one is guaranteed to fire a projectile with every swing, meaning, at least theoretically, the new one is capable of higher DPS if your build prioritizes melee speed over damage boosts.
@newttrain8667
@newttrain8667 Жыл бұрын
To elaborate on Golem a bit more; During the first phase, the old Terra Blade could be used to lock down one fist at close range while the beam aims at either the other fist or the head. This led to some lopsided damage being dealt to his pieces, but not really a big deal. The new Terra Blade is now practically guaranteed to hit all three pieces at all times.
@Guest-qo5nl
@Guest-qo5nl Жыл бұрын
clearly buffed.. More range, Larger projectile, more piercing.
@papahemmy8587
@papahemmy8587 Жыл бұрын
The new terrablade is op. It's honestly my perferd weapon to fighting moonlord now. The waves are so big you can easily hit more than 1 eye at once. And if your close to one of the eyes, your effective DPS can triple! The large waves are also another thing I would like to talk about. Because of their shear size, missing your target is practically impossible. Meaning that also yes the dps is lower, it's more than made up for but making it easier to reach the theoretically dps. Target dummies aren't exactally the hardest things to hit.
@pengu3753
@pengu3753 Жыл бұрын
the old terrablade imo was "that sword that crafts zenith" but now its a nice sword that can be used all the way through when you get it and in the moonlord fight
@sarvukruv2137
@sarvukruv2137 Жыл бұрын
I think it's better than it was before. I never tried the old version of the weapon, but I did go out of my way to get it during my Terraria playthrough and it not only became one of my favorite weapons but it also made the pillars infinitely easier because of the reasons you mentioned. I plan to do another playthrough but on expert mode, and I'm gonna make sure I use the swords from the Terra Blade's crafting tree as part of my progression.
@microwavedpizza
@microwavedpizza Жыл бұрын
I personally think it's for the better, since it gives the Terra Blade a better use after the Influx Waver, which is pretty much right after you get the Terra Blade.
@arthursaedtler
@arthursaedtler Жыл бұрын
The influx waver has never been comparable to the terra blade, stfu
@kupfermannchen1321
@kupfermannchen1321 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought
@Professionalfailure
@Professionalfailure Жыл бұрын
I love the new sword updates, especially the nights edge I legit killed the wof in like 10 seconds using the new nights edge
@1Cupcake_
@1Cupcake_ Жыл бұрын
I was doing a mele playthrough before 1.4.4 and was really struggling against the wof using the sunfury and nights edge having done 4 tries. After the 1.4.4 update I beat it first try using the nights edge. Just a huge buff.
@Cfc15_
@Cfc15_ Жыл бұрын
Love this weapon regardless of buff or nerd
@the.kensei_547
@the.kensei_547 Жыл бұрын
Heh *Nerd* Sorry for this but that's *sus*
@macacoofwar
@macacoofwar Жыл бұрын
💪 or 🤓
@ashtinpace4213
@ashtinpace4213 Жыл бұрын
I used it to be the moon lord in master mode for the first time over the solar weapons. The amazing range and speed make it better than any other option once it is available, in my opinion.
@silverfenrir440
@silverfenrir440 Жыл бұрын
Although the overall as you said was lowered it dowsn't fall frome grace and instead has rised up even more. First I used it against is the duke fishron, because of its range the arc-like swing his range attacks are no problem now, the only thing you need to do is dodge while shooting waves at him. One more great use of this is against events like the martian madness and the pirates, its range really stands out a lot. Also for the pillars, it so damn good. Especially in the solar pillar where there are those fireballs falling, with the continious swing of the terra blade, you can protect yourself from the fireballs and demolish the incoming enemies with the wave attack at the same time. I really wanted to keep it even at post moonlord because I liked the design more than zenith but I'm not so confident if it can defeat moonlord, anyone tried it yet? I might try it later.
@aubin7785
@aubin7785 Жыл бұрын
The Thing i just love about the new Terrablade is that Melee Speed now also affects the projectiles it just feels so good to use it now with a speed build
@snakevenom4954
@snakevenom4954 Жыл бұрын
Massive buff. You would need to hit your target for the DPS to matter. This new Terrablade is far easier to hit enemies. Try fighting Duke Fishron with the old Terrablade. Good luck. Now it's a breeze
@thebossman5470
@thebossman5470 Жыл бұрын
For a blade that carries the name of the game, I'd say they did it big justice.
@Dhillon1521
@Dhillon1521 Жыл бұрын
I do not think it has been buffed or nerfed more of a rework that changes it complete from pervious version, but it do think that it is a lot better now and the animations looks better.
@spacemanifestdestiny3542
@spacemanifestdestiny3542 Жыл бұрын
It honestly feels better now. It singlehandedly carried me from right after mechdusa (shimmered a terra toilet from a Jungle Mimic for the broken hero sword pre-plantera, I believe this has been patched) all the way to getting the Daybreak on master mode everything seed. I even preferred the Terra Blade over the Solar Eruption, it just felt cooler and more consistent in aiming, though obviously the Daybreak beat it out for bosses.
@Onion38
@Onion38 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's damage should've been nerfed that much since it is a post mech weapon If I remember correctly
@illican
@illican Жыл бұрын
post-plantera, broken hero sword won't drop from mothrons before then
@jooknookem3655
@jooknookem3655 Жыл бұрын
Its effect is now entirely based on how fast your swing speed is, whereas before it was a strict timer. So Yeah while its damage was "nerfed" statistically, it can reach much better average numbers with faster swing speed.
@radiumpaint
@radiumpaint Жыл бұрын
post plantera.
@xilongma4794
@xilongma4794 Жыл бұрын
In 1.4.1, the terra blade was moved to post-plantera, the weapons used to craft it are still post-mechs though
@bluegem8582
@bluegem8582 Жыл бұрын
i mean, idk about anyone else, but im completely fine with this version, i recall it basically feeling like everyone would replace it right after with influx waver which they said was basically better, so by that logic this rework is great, plus it replaces a sorta previously overdone feeling straight sword beam projectile with one completely new
@maxieprimo2758
@maxieprimo2758 Жыл бұрын
What peeves me is the screen-locked projectiles on the true nights edge. Feels like a nightmare.
@swagpenguin1644
@swagpenguin1644 Жыл бұрын
Ikr, hurts me so much fr
@Jackscullion14
@Jackscullion14 Жыл бұрын
Amazing upload schedule and such high quality, keep it up!
@markemad1986
@markemad1986 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely stronger now the actual reason it's arguably nerfed it's range now being limited to enemies on screen as opposed to the previous near infinite range
@fragmentedrose7401
@fragmentedrose7401 Жыл бұрын
Good luck hitting anything off screen with that slow ass projectile though
@mpmcd8432
@mpmcd8432 Жыл бұрын
Importantly, the much larger projectile makes it much more consistent
@Blairk4673
@Blairk4673 Жыл бұрын
Something also worth mentioning is that the projectiles are now affected my melee speed, and that can make melee attack speed builds do drastically more dps than damage or crit builds
@Terra_Blade
@Terra_Blade Жыл бұрын
Hey that's my name!
@_Ryyl
@_Ryyl Жыл бұрын
2:04 Fun Fact, This makes enemies knockback towards you, lol
@I_TheNightWolf_I
@I_TheNightWolf_I Күн бұрын
I had no idea the Terra Blade was buffed during my most recent terraria playthrough and it feels so much better to use
@Lodestone8
@Lodestone8 Жыл бұрын
As a Terraria veteran, I fell its ease of use to be less satisfying, especially against bosses, I can't deny wiping events with the new one is bliss, but against bosses and as someone who's used to aiming, it feels anticlimatic, but as long as we have the influx waver I'm okay saying goodbye to my old friend. Also new Terrablade on Martians to get the influx waver feels poetic. So I'm okay with it, but even in its new form it feels like it needs just a little more kick.
@JuanGarcia-gy8vl
@JuanGarcia-gy8vl Жыл бұрын
I'm only using the Terra Blade and the Horseman's Blade. Melting wave after wave of enemies feel so good!
@thefaz3744
@thefaz3744 Жыл бұрын
You should make a video on the **sand gun**. Seriously. It has DPS compared to post-Skeletron and early Hardmore weapons, is obtainable pre-boss and has infinite pierce if you use corrupt sand as ammo. It's easily the best weapon for the BoC or EoW and is massively underrated. Just make sure to put torches or minecart rails on the bottom of your arena before you begin so it doesn't spawn snow
@arcanum814
@arcanum814 Жыл бұрын
How to cheese any boss, any difficulty, any seed, any update with any of your favorite class without buffs. This is also fully legit, no glitches on single or multiplayer. If so then read the following, and yes this sounds way too good: Step 1: Get good starter loot of any seed of your choice. Get loot Preferably on classic. If you can, beat BoC, EoW, BoC classic. Craft better gear, then beat on expert or even master. Maybe some old ones army as well. Step 2: Get dungeon loot and go to underworld for shadow chests to get obsidian potions for hellstone ore to craft better gear. Then beat WoF classic mode, get ores. Probably titanium with atleast one minion and fast DPS. Maybe some old ones army as well again. Step 3: Beat destroyer with atleast one minion and fast attack speed. You can cheese any boss with old ones army to have like 20 sentries. Beat mechs as well and upgrade your loot easily. Maybe go to expert and get better loot or master mode, have some fun. Step 4: Beat plantera classic and golem. Then if you can, beat cultists and pillars are super easy. If not, get upgrades and it should be easy with expert or master mode loot. Upgrade loot just get better items whenever needed. Step 5: Cheese moonlord classic mode. You can use old ones army so you have like 20 sentries with squires armor or some other armor or class you prefer. The sentries are OP and should help a lot. No buffs needed, you have expert mode and master mode loot with dozens of sentires on classic. Worked super easily for me and defeated moon lord first try but I did not use sentries. Step 6: Mega chees moon lord master mode with zenith, last prism, anything you have. If you want to take this a few steps farther, use zenith, dozens of sentires, minions and buffs, arena, stack many meowmeres strait up, and use zenith. I think this is overkill now. Step 7: Get your favorite loadout. I have a really good and super fun build idea for anyone. I used the Valhalla knights set, squires shield, the brain of confusion, worm scarf, the rest pure damage with celestial shell, Santa n-k mount, single stardust cell minion or minion of your choice, a bunch of lunar portal staffs, clinger staff, crimson rod, just spam things like a rainbow rod, frost hydra, they don't take sentry slots so you can have like 8, and spamming vampire knifes to heal you. I predict that you should get around 12k, single target DPS? Not sure, plus you are super tanky with super rapid healing and it is my new favorite build. Let me know what you think. Have you tried something like this? I personally love these kinds of builds with soo much variety.
@eltiolavara9
@eltiolavara9 Жыл бұрын
interesting, i havent used the sand gun in years
@Spurrrg
@Spurrrg Жыл бұрын
For multiplayer this is a nerf because I CANT SEE ENEMY PROJECTILES THROUGH THE MASSIVE ANIMATION AND LIGHTS WHILE MY FRIEND IS SWINGING THIS SWORD WITH ALL GLOVES REFORGED TO VIOLENT IN HIS ACCESSORY SLOT.
@green-legacy
@green-legacy 7 ай бұрын
the old one is still very memorable to me but this does look cool
@StallionGD
@StallionGD Жыл бұрын
For nostalgia reasons, I miss the old terra blade, however this version makes a lot more sense. As an endgame weapon, it feels better to have unique characteristics rather than keep the same old beam sword mechanics we've seen in plenty of other swords. This version of the blade just looks so much cooler aswell. But this also makes the Terra blade a lot more different than the influx waver
@joshuacriddle-eg4fgkok
@joshuacriddle-eg4fgkok 10 ай бұрын
I like 1.4.4 because it added diversity to the terrablade and the weapons that were also changed like true nights edge and Excalibur
@azekilldiablo9315
@azekilldiablo9315 Жыл бұрын
Since it shoots a projectile per swing, attack speed builds give insane dps compared to the old blade, which has a fixed max fire rate. I think this should really be addressed in your video.
@TheAbyssalStorm
@TheAbyssalStorm Жыл бұрын
Whilst many might be upset about the lower damage, in reality the new Terra Blade can deal more damage per second. Stats out of the way, I’m glad most of the melee weapons got reworked, the true sword duo and Terra Blade felt like near carbon copies of each other, and now they have some differences and don’t seem like the same bloody blade.
@uberx2447
@uberx2447 Жыл бұрын
This kinda highlights a problem I have to most things measuring useability based on raw dps: -It only measures based on math and data -Doesn't argue anything about it niche (mostly) -Primarily only considered for min-max'ing, which isn't even entirely viable in organic play Instead folks should be judging based on: -Organic gameplay should always be considered over the spreadsheets -Consider it's role or determine it's role, and judge if it's effective at it -Ask if the comparison it any competitors are significant enough (in its context) it be taken over the other I should add that both together makes for a more effective understanding of weapons being used, but far too much do I see people only refer to either the numbers or the spreadsheets to make their arguments rather than examining the weapon as a whole. It just snowballs into people eventually just not understanding the data and oversimplifying the information, ultimately missing the point.
@caoinhnamkhanh2795
@caoinhnamkhanh2795 Жыл бұрын
so they increased the effective melee range + the range of the projectile (and the number of enemies it passes through) for a nerf in dps. in theory if you played perfect and used both the melee sword + sword projectile aka staying like 3 or 4 blocks away from a mob, you can deal more dps than the new one, but with how eratic mobs can move you, you can't really do it in practice, and this is not even mentioning whether its a boss or not. the new terra blade, the dps is worse yes, but in practice is better, due to the effective melee range being FAR bigger than before, meaning you can get both the melee (energy range) and the projectile hit on target, if not at least the projectile is hitting, unlike before where its just much harder to hit either with a fast moving target. in general, i enjoy melee much more, it incentivizes you to stay relatively close to enemies for more dps unlike the unforgiving range of swords before
@virtualdefender1847
@virtualdefender1847 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think it was a nerf in the slightest, in actual play, with builds for attack speed, damage increases and stuff of the like, I just felt I had the power to wipe the screen single or otherwise
@hyotum798
@hyotum798 Жыл бұрын
And with a melee speed build for terra blade it shreds for the worthy moon lord with ease. The guy who did the video was shooting like 12 projectiles a second he started the fight with half hp and only took enough damage to bring him to 1/4th total hp
@hollowsliver5283
@hollowsliver5283 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how this would affect balance, but it would be cool if you could throw the terra blade into shimmer and get an "old" version, and then throw the "old" version to get the new one back. This would however disable to ability to uncraft it into it's components.
@mpmcd8432
@mpmcd8432 Жыл бұрын
It may do less damage but the projectile size means it is many times easier to hit at range, so average damage increases.
@just_oliwer4581
@just_oliwer4581 Жыл бұрын
I just got terrablade for the first time (I got godlike modifier when I crafted it lmao) and I gotta say, the wave that it sends out is absolutely awesome for people who don't enjoy melee that much.
@Splonton
@Splonton Жыл бұрын
It's easily better than it used to be solely because the projectile fires with every swing, and has no cooldown. I know I don't need to explain how tremendous of a buff that is since everyone else in the comments already has, but just incase: buffing swing speed makes this sword absolutely shred anything in its way
@Ryguy-pu8fx
@Ryguy-pu8fx Жыл бұрын
The new terra blade is 100% better for console now imo since it’s hard to aim the projectiles on console the wider the attack the better
@kovexplay
@kovexplay Жыл бұрын
They made this legendary weapon even cooler and more viable! It has lower dps but I love it's piercing capabilities and wide projectiles- it's just way easier to hit. I don't understand people who are butt-hurt by this change, I personally really enjoy it :)
@spunchbob1
@spunchbob1 Жыл бұрын
Hey bro I love the concept that you’ve been putting out for a while maybe we could get an outro because after the end of the video it’s kind of jarring to just stop hearing some thing
@thegamingraptor9113
@thegamingraptor9113 Жыл бұрын
on a different note, my favorite weapon the Star Wrath got a buff with the falling stars.
@exodus1383
@exodus1383 Жыл бұрын
recently went through a master mode melee playthrough and this was by far the best weapon from plantera to zenith
@MidoriGrey
@MidoriGrey Жыл бұрын
From my experience, Almost nobody actually used melee's consistently unless it was the yoyo's or thrown weapons that had the melee damage type. Otherwise they used the melee sets for defense and hybrid'd with a minion, magic, and a gun for some weird combo.
@EthansEmporium
@EthansEmporium Жыл бұрын
It's a cool change but completely messed up a ton of other weapons which are now even more redundant
@soup4219
@soup4219 Жыл бұрын
dont forget that now the time it takes to fire a projectile is tied to melee speed now
@thebevil8127
@thebevil8127 Жыл бұрын
i think the terra blade has actually been more buffed than what people think since the projectiles are affected by swing speed buffs! instead of an invisible timer like on the old one. you can throw a lot- and i mean a lot more slashes with a swing speed build compared to the old terra blade. (at least to my knowledge and limited testing, feel free to correct me ^^')
@chaoticgood7128
@chaoticgood7128 9 ай бұрын
3:09 was easily my favorite part of this video.
@-Keith-
@-Keith- Жыл бұрын
The new terra blade is basically an autoaim weapon that almost guarantees your hits will connect, whereas the DPS loss from missing hits with the old terra blade on high movement fights (EoL, etc) is substantial. I'd take autoaim over high precision shots if it means a slight weapon damage decrease. That's what makes the possessed hatchet such a good weapon right up to moon lord, even though there's stronger weapons available.
@BlackHero20
@BlackHero20 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe the people who say the new terra blade is a nerf either havent tried the new one and are just going off numbers or just really miss the old one. The new one is actually insane. Its a legit better weapon for the pillars event than the goddamn solar weapons!
@aaronyc2011
@aaronyc2011 2 ай бұрын
I’ve only ever experienced the new one, but the massive range and piercing is so nice. Takes my mind off of aiming, so I can focus on dodging, which I am actually decent at
@deltacream
@deltacream Жыл бұрын
2:53 You have to consider that Golem himself was buffed. If the Terra Blade now manages to keep up with the old Terra Blade, that kind of shows that it's actually stronger and easier to use.
@arcticfoxes8034
@arcticfoxes8034 8 ай бұрын
I think the change fits thematically. The new terrablade feels like a sword, and mechanically acts like one (big aoe sword slashes). The old terra blade just feels like youre using a mage weapon that doesnt require mana, with the small, straight line projectile.
@JumpingRobot
@JumpingRobot Жыл бұрын
They also made it fire a projectile every swing. Maxxing out melee speed makes it insanely overpowered
@lmaobruh4809
@lmaobruh4809 Жыл бұрын
The terrablade I'd say In most ways it got buffed but in other ways it got nerfed
@WillFuI
@WillFuI Жыл бұрын
For generally use buff but specialized nerf. The horseman’s blade was a straight nerf
@redex9498
@redex9498 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to the 1.4.4 update, ive fallen in love with terraria again. And your videos just make me so happy for some reason. I love you all💚
@squiddler7731
@squiddler7731 Жыл бұрын
All the nerfs were there to compensate for how insane it is having the the terra blade fire a projectile every swing, lol. Because of that change it scales with melee speed in a way that no other weapon can, and having enough melee speed more than makes up for the damage nerfs
@Sabagegah
@Sabagegah Жыл бұрын
The Terra Blade now fires a projectile on EVERY SWING, meaning melee speed buffs are very useful for it.
@spoolf
@spoolf Жыл бұрын
It's probably asking a lot, but I'd love to see some sort of "classic" terrablade, maybe from dropping it in shimer or something, so players who prefer the old version could still use it.
@HyperComet369
@HyperComet369 Жыл бұрын
I agree. They should have ancient versions of weapons like the armor sets.
@DeIIiott
@DeIIiott Жыл бұрын
The ease-of-use more than makes up for the damage decrease for me. Loving the new version of this sword personally :)
@RoPEK123xd
@RoPEK123xd Жыл бұрын
at first i was veryy skeptical about this. but after trying it out, im amazed. and you made very good points. it's very hard to miss with it now, so you can focus more on dodging. this is great. the weapon feels more fun to use the nerfs may seem like they are huge, but honestly, i tried using it against the new buffed duke fishron and it was a walk in a park. the fight is very short and with such a massive projectile you don't even have to focus on aiming and the dps was still very high. the big knockback, massive aoe around you and the giant, fast moving, piercing projectile makes this weapon really good. i'm willing to say i like this one more now.
@crazyphrenic
@crazyphrenic Жыл бұрын
In my expirience (I did a new playthrough for all the new achievements added) I can tell that the new Terra Blade made the whole thing much easier. The reworks really did well to the melee class.
@Rayan-West
@Rayan-West Жыл бұрын
Off topic, but I like that your name is a play on Sokrates.
@justlucky4935
@justlucky4935 Жыл бұрын
When it comes the wider beam, Terra Blade is actually now a very viable means to kill the *Big Tentacle* with, not to mention how the 'beam per swing' buff makes it have a higher realistic DPS compared to the old version.
@Argonwolfproject
@Argonwolfproject Жыл бұрын
"Dear Melee Class: Stay in your own lane. You're running us off the road. - The Rangers' Guild"
@8bitbystander586
@8bitbystander586 Жыл бұрын
now their infringing on the mages side of things! >:( melee is defo's the favourite child of the devs...
@metalurgent
@metalurgent Жыл бұрын
Weapon size effects the size of the projectile, keep that in mind
@Wofluf
@Wofluf Жыл бұрын
I think if you ignore whatever preconceived notions of what it used to be like, it's super solid. We've got many swords similar to the old terrablade -- think influx waver, flying dragon, etc. but we have nothing like the new terrablade. it's got a new functionality and excels at certain areas, as most good weapons do.
@dessichu
@dessichu Жыл бұрын
I've yet to try this weapon out because I started a brand new playthrough using melee class recently but from the looks of it, it seems a lot better than it used to be
@WaiGee_
@WaiGee_ 16 сағат бұрын
I remember during my first playthrough after years of not playing the game, when my friend suggested the terra blade i scoffed at it because it was so small and projectile was also tiny, why would i use it when there are so many better and cooler weapons? Well he made one for me and told me to use it, me not knowing about the rework was smackjawed, i love this new terrablade
@undertheeclipse8531
@undertheeclipse8531 Жыл бұрын
They should give the terra blade the ancient hollowed armor treatment and bring back the old one for the people that prefer it you could call it the ancient hero's blade or something like that
@KwikBR
@KwikBR Жыл бұрын
but then loads of stupid people would think its better when it isn't
@yousicianyounis9234
@yousicianyounis9234 11 ай бұрын
​@@KwikBRbrother you can't call someone stupid when they have an opinion in fact you're the stupid one
@w1ll_l
@w1ll_l Жыл бұрын
It gets better dps than the daybreak
@HarambaeXelonmuskfans
@HarambaeXelonmuskfans Жыл бұрын
The way they hinted the change was like it was going to be super ultra cool but all they did was just resize the projectile. I’m really not a fan as I didn’t even have a problem hitting enemies with it in the first place, all it did was just become a weapon for newbs to use.
@Sabagegah
@Sabagegah Жыл бұрын
3:10 nice
@PoorEdward
@PoorEdward Жыл бұрын
The dilemma I have with this update is the fact that all they’ve really done is made some weapons op and the gap between the regular melee weapons even bigger. They’ve basically acknowledged everything is almost either good or inherently pointless/obsolete.
@thegongoozler3374
@thegongoozler3374 Жыл бұрын
If the projectiles had infinite travel distance like the old version then I'd have no complaints. People seem to forget how useful a feature that was, and how that is a nerf as well.
@ViIvaNunner
@ViIvaNunner Жыл бұрын
personally; i love the new terrablade both versions of the terrablade are strong and i didnt even know it had a damage nerf; but the big projectile makes it easier to aim; it does wonder for crowds; and i personally love that it has a shorter range too so it isnt basically glorified ranger or mage; since those tend to have projectiles that go off screen for a while so you can run far; while the new melee feels more melee ranged
@tripleb4528
@tripleb4528 Жыл бұрын
I just finished my first melee playthrough since the update and for me, this was absolutely my favourite change they've ever made. I acquired it just after Plantera as usual, and expected to probably not use it much after golem as in the past I have found more success with other weapons at that stage. But I ended up using it for everything, even Moon Lord. It is so freaking good.
@TheFireMouseYT
@TheFireMouseYT Жыл бұрын
Need single-target DPS? The Influx Waver is exactly the same before the update as it is now, meaning its advantage in single-target damage over the Terra Blade is only amplified, meaning the both weapons dominate a niche now. Beautiful!
@thelonelystankmuncher8879
@thelonelystankmuncher8879 Жыл бұрын
Ever since meowmere dropped it just became obsolete had no reason to come back to it, and then zenith came in now it fell to muramasa levels of being just a crafting recipe with it's dps being outpaced by the flairon, THE FLAIRON!
@lots478
@lots478 Жыл бұрын
Meomere is post moon lord, Terablade is post plantera. Your point doesn’t really stick.
@stumbling_
@stumbling_ Жыл бұрын
Melee always struggles when it comes to lack of range and crowd control. And this weapon excels at both. You throw on boosts to melee speed instead of damage and this thing shreds through events.
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