SOCl2: Thionyl chloride

[@wpenrose]

Just a thought: when pouring something as nasty as thionyl chloride, a glass rod can guide the flow so you don't have it dripping all over the place.

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[@Rhodanide]

Holy crap, that's the most SOCl2 I've seen in one container. You've got more than some University labs! Awesome video as always, you never disappoint.

[@hansharz9934]

It's a one liter flask I suppose. Only one or two years ago you could still buy SOCl2 in Germany as a private person online (there was one shop selling it left and you had to fill out some papers, which is ok, when you see what kind of persons possibly may buy it nowadays). You had to pay 60 EUR or so for one liter though, way overpriced for a rather cheap compound. Realistic/material price would have been 15 EUR/l or so. But they changed that, not possible anymore.

[@bradywilliams1973]

I work with this stuff often by the 55 gal drum

[@196Stefan2]

Thionylchloride is a very common chlorinating agent in chemical lab and in chemical industry. It is used in a big scale.

[@196Stefan2]

@@hansharz9934 Ja, es ist (wundersamerweise) seit 2-3 Jahren als "giftig" deklariert. Damit schlägt man mehrere Fliegen mit einer Klappe: Es scheidet der Versandhandel aus und Abgabe ist nur noch an gewerbliche Verbraucher erlaubt.

[@rogueanuerz]

@@bradywilliams1973 weird flex but okay

[@twiggy27111976]

I came here on the recommendation of the Explosions and Fire channel. Was not disappointed. Where the hell do you live to be able access these chemicals? Just a little issue, could you get a better microphone or overdub so the sound is better? Also, love the background music, it’s like an old Atari ST racing game 😆 Great channel, keep it up 👍

[@BackYardScience2000]

He has access to a university lab or a company that uses all of these chems, that's how he has access to this kind of stuff. You can't buy it as an individual.

[@rohanmagee6781]

Pretty sure he's from Belgium

[@hiroprotagonist1587]

Excellent content, the worst I've ever dealt with was a filter swap on a natural gas pipeline and the old filter had the stink of 2 years worth of isopropyl mercaptan and tert-butylthiol odorant having passed through it. I can't imagine how bad this stuff is, hope you have a particularly good fume hood ;)

[@terawattyear]

Really enjoyed! Cobalt chloride color changes have always fascinated me. I especially loved the metals in the SOCl2. Lithium looked like a tiny captive reddish sun. Titanium had firework-like sparking trails. Barium and samarium evidently do not like SOCl2. 😯

[@ChemicalForce]

The reaction with Sm resulted in something I couldn't expect!

[@nons6576]

@@ChemicalForce Damn correct

[@piyushsoni4253]

SOCl2 reacts with various organic compounds for chlorination,pls make an video on this

[@giovannipelissero1886]

He always breaks my heart when he destroys all these useful compounds 😭🤣

[@johnsheppard1476]

@@giovannipelissero1886 interesting what about nitrosyl chloride!I get a bunch of this stuff while working with aqua regia!

[@BackYardScience2000]

@Ali Mansor a compound that will land you in jail....

[@cletusburgerboy9143]

Why don't you an hero.

[@Flanker35]

By adding water into the drum of SOCl2 is how we used to decompose this nasty stuff. I used to make the fumes go through lime to neutralize the gases.

[@philidor9657]

To make things a little less spicy we quench it with isopropanol first and then water. Luckily we have nice fume hoods to capture the nasty fumes it makes like HCl and sulfur oxides. However it likes to get hot and if it gets too hot it'll precipitate elemental sulfur and other sulfides or mercaptans and stink up your glass to high heavens.

[@ARCH4NG3L_]

I am really glad i came across your videos, they are so much more interesting than our school lessons

[@masterlabLAB]

Great Video ! never seen something as dangerous ! in the last part where you didn't cover the reaction sound you really gave the idea of danger!

[@ChemicalForce]

For sound recording we turned off the hood - it was really dangerous :D

[@ssol2617]

Wow...Your video is always nice and awsome! My Thionyl chloride in the university lab is dirty brownish yellow colored. But, yours are very nice clear colorless liquid. I completely agree 'Bromine spilt is nothing compared to Thionyl chloride'I am wondering if you can show us the properties and reactions of about 60% SO3 oleum.

[@ChemicalForce]

yes, we have oleum high concentration and SO3 ampule (you could see it in "trailer" video), you can suggest something :)

[@ssol2617]

It's so cool... I want to see the violent reaction of oleum or SO3 with organics and powerful reducing agents. Also, It would be nice to see the reaction with reactive metals(although it would be less violent than azeotropic sulfuric acid) Oleum and SO3 is quite mysterious to me. So, I can't think more...

[@BackYardScience2000]

​@@ChemicalForce will thionyl chloride react with hydrazine or hydrazine derivatives like the sulfate or hydrochloride? What about Pyridine, Aniline, or something like octane or butane? What about mercury or arsenic metals? I could give you tons of ideas to try. Lol

[@nigeldepledge3790]

This thought just occurred to me : if ever you repeat the experiment to show hydrolysis of thionyl chloride in water, maybe add a little pH indicator into the water first, to demonstrate the production of HCl.

[@spartanvenger4726]

how we will use? wheather in fumehood, glove box. what should we have to for scrubbing systems.

[@fano72]

Loved the liquid titanium fireworks.

[@testboga5991]

I once had a bottle. It was such a drag and I was happy when I was able to properly get rid of the crap.

[@lacrthxx14]

Nice video! Fuming liquids are always intimidating 😅

[@KJW742]

the reaction with titanium metal produced a very beautiful flame

[@richardnanis]

suggestion: make some thioacetone! This is a very stinky substance and hardly anybody dares to make some. And one more suggestion for the video: i would prefer to hear the reaction sounds like boiling, cracking e.g. - dont wipe it out with any music. Or at least turn down the level as much as possible.

[@tsandethottiesupremocleo1896]

I'm pretty sure the offensive scent would be enough to get him in deep shit depending on where this is done. I read that thioacetone can be smelled up to two miles away from the site of synthesis

[@sixstringedthing]

You know it's some good shit when the bottle starts fuming as soon as it's exposed to air!

[@good.citizen]

Thank you. Great chemistry 👍

[@rollbot]

DAAAAA!!! Beautiful demonstrations!

[@benjaminharper8532]

I charge this stuff into a reactor at my pharmaceutical career. Neat stuff!

[@cpaoutdoors9926]

Work with it every day a demon in a drum

[@ChemicalForce]

I don't envy you :\

[@Bladelols27]

Thats terrifying.

[@user21XXL]

What do you think about concentrated or anhydrous amonia? Sodium in anhydrous amonia would be cool too

[@ChemicalForce]

yes, it's planned

[@gutschke]

That's such a classic and beautiful reaction. Electrons are pretty to look at.

[@demidrol5660]

Could you try to convert burned magnesia (MgO) to anhydrous MgCl2 with this compound? This could be useful for magnesium production by electrolysis but I found no data on this way of chlorination.

[@BackYardScience2000]

If there is no data on that reaction to be found, then it is likely that it does not work.

[@Archis1999]

Awesome experiments. I did not know these before watching. Try to keep it up.

[@nons6576]

Indian?

[@midhun.m4963]

DARZEN'S PROCEDURE😍😍😍😍

[@user-yv7sp1cd6u]

Wow! Nice video, like!

[@BackYardScience2000]

@ChemicalForce , why no new video on Thionyl Chloride now that you have way better cameras, more chemicals to react it with, a better studio and more of a follwoing? I say a remake is now required, but upgraded to where you spend 45 minutes reacting things with it. 😃

[@malabikaroy3176]

Sir it was very good please make a video on phosgene gas

[@adityadhardwivedi634]

it's toxic, may lead to coma and even death.

[@noodlesoup2281]

Wow you have access to some exotic stuff!

[@AlexanderKomarov-ot9je]

COOL!!!!

[@aqdrobert]

Roses are red. Violets are blue.

[@skyethebi]

Can thionyl chloride be used to increase the concentration of aqueous solutions. Like producing RFNA by using SOCl2 to eliminate water from dilute nitric acid.

[@RylanRay-z2v]

It would add HCl to these solutions. A better option for making RFNA would be to distill sulfuric acid with a nitrate salt.

[@gorkemgedikoglu3388]

Fantastic all of them

[@barrymayson2492]

Makes me cough just looking at it!

[@Antimonium_Griseo]

But how about reactions with SO2Cl2 and S2O5Cl2???;)

[@Antimonium_Griseo]

And how about very-very interest reactions with S2Cl2, S2Br2, SO2Cl2 and S2O5Cl2, (NO)2S2O7, S2O5F2, S2F2, SF4 and S2F5?)

[@ngsq12]

It is also a nerve gas precursor.

[@vytautaseicas4283]

Mix it with anhydrous ethanol

[@rmx4087]

That background music sounds like the track to a NES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game.

[@oleglogvynenko9447]

It's amazing!

[@haliax8149]

I heard somebody say that acetylaldehyde burns with a lavender flame. Is this true?

[@ChemicalForce]

Only if in liquid oxygen. Need to ckeck

[@haliax8149]

@@ChemicalForce I would absolutely love to see this.

[@babaaaax]

А что если разобрать элемент питания Li-SOCl2 и в него попадет вода (или влага) ? . А там еще и металлический литий есть , что будет ? всё загорится ?

[@КаналКаналыч-т1у]

Да, + дико ядовитые газы пойдут

[@darewin3847]

I love your videos !!!

[@ChemicalForce]

I love my subs :***

[@fano72]

Burning metal pieces under liquid, cool ,)

[@nox3335]

Awesome video as usual but I'm left with a need to play Sega megadrive now

[@pizzablender]

I once found a small lithium CMOS backup battery that used thionyl chloride as an -electrolyte- anode.

[@flaplaya]

Man I miss those 8 bit boss fight tunes along with angry chemical reactions

[@frazet875]

I just bought some tionyl chloride (250 ml 97,5%)

[@nons6576]

Strong boy

[@xgschecwhydh4583]

The chemistry is that vegetables in the oven with mushrooms

[@mikeg4972]

If Lithium is added, does it form lithium thonyl Monochloride? That is the electrolyte is primary lithium cell.

[@antejl7925]

What would be the best solvent for recrystalisation? Methanol?

[@davidreed3021]

Recrystallization of what? Thionyl chloride is a liquid, but even if it was a solid methanol would not work as it reacts with alcohols to produce alkyl chlorides. If you are talking about recrystallization in general, there is no "best solvent" because it depends on what you are recrystallizing. You want a solvent that dissolves that dissolves the compound well at high temperatures but does not dissolve it at low temperatures. You dissolve the solid in the near-boiling solvent and then as it cools it will precipitate from the solution. Sometimes you need to use two solvents (run a search for "dual-solvent recrystallization". As a practical note I should add that you generally will let it cool down slowly if you want large crystals and quickly (by say throwing it in the freezer) if you want small crystals.

[@antejl7925]

​@@davidreed3021sorry this reply wasnt for thionyl chloride....youtube jumped video as I was writing..it was for a organic synth..

[@swarajpathak5198]

Where Should I thionyl Chloride store? is it in refrigerator or in fume hood?

[@tutan9818]

Fume hood

[@49_salonimishra36]

Nice video...you are great

[@Antimonium_Griseo]

In case with metallic lithium dropig water made reaction at first stadia not with SOCl2, but with acidly prodacts of hydrolize of SOCl2 - with watering HCl... and this exothermical reaction made heat for starting raection between "heating" lithium and SOCl2. But without water or moisture metallic luthium passivated in SOCl2 and reaction stoped at all the first. But burning lithium must be react with dry SOCl2.)

[@christopherleubner6633]

Samerium: Lithium hold my beer 😲😎😁

[@linardskinard8199]

This reminds me of "bubbler" Christmas lights

[@Antimonium_Griseo]

"GOOD!!!" from me for beauty interesting reactions SOCl2 with barium, samarium and titanium!!!)

[@achrafjoui2637]

Svp...des informations sur Bi2S3

[@kcys34]

I have another request - could you detonate some calcium performate? I have never ever seen it being used, I don't even know if it deflagrates or detonates

[@ChemicalForce]

Can't answer your question right now

[@TheRolemodel1337]

@@ChemicalForce how about now? :p

[@tp6335]

@@TheRolemodel1337 KZbin no like boomboom

[@BackYardScience2000]

@@ChemicalForce can you answer now?

[@richcast66]

Sounds like I’m about to take on a doom boss

[@bhargava4118]

Bro I have accidentally inhaled some thionyl chloride fumes. Is this OK or need any medical treatment?

[@ChemicalForce]

Well, if you don't comment on my new video, seems like you don't need my help anymore. Sorry for the delay :(

[@ninoland498]

So cool

[@mtalhakhalid1679]

Cobolt chloride is beautyfull

[@GromKuba]

A few years ago I work with thiophosgene. It's also awful and dangerous chemical.

[@tokajileo5928]

what about mixing liquified SO2 with liquified H2S ?

[@zhuguanchen5607]

That produce sulphur and water

[@reinisaugustins8555]

​@@zhuguanchen5607 The equation for hydrogen sulfide and sulfur dioxide reaction is the following: 2H2S + SO2 - ) 3S + 2H2O

[@robertwilliams8450]

your videos are always cool

[@juanbenitez5248]

potassium reacts always in boom! xd

[@robotnikkkk001]

=THE ULTIMATE DEHYDRATION AGENT =HEHE

[@tokajileo5928]

what happens if you mix liquified SO2 with liquified HCl ?

[@dirtyfiendswithneedles3111]

Boom bang fizzle

[@SherKhan0122]

Where is your accent from?

[@dindin9487]

0:46 and they put this stuff in the one bottle that you could spill it everywhere.

[@cadmiumbop]

this guy is an actual gangsta.

[@BackYardScience2000]

Lmao! Anyone can mix two chemicals if they have access to them. Doesn't make them a "gangsta". 🤣

[@Peaserist]

can you make Thionyl chloride by combining dimethyl sulfoxide and bleach?

[@davidreed3021]

Doubtful. My guess would be that an oxidizing bleach would give you the sulfone whereas a reducing bleach would be likely to give you the sulfide. Thionyl chloride is extremely dangerous (e.g. the fumes will react with moisture in your lungs to produce hydrochloric acid as well as toxic sulfur dioxide. Not something that should be played around with unless you have a fume hood. That being said, the easiest way to make it would be to pump chlorine gas through a mound of sulfur in a flask (will eventually melt to give sulfur dichloride), and then bubbling sulfur trioxide through the sulfur dichloride will give thionyl chloride. If you don't know how to generate chlorine gas and/or gaseous sulfur trioxide this is not something you should be trying, so I'm going to leave that part out.

[@Antimonium_Griseo]

But with metallic luthium without water must be passivated and no reacted.

[@vytautaseicas4283]

It mix with anhydrous liquid ammonia

[@rahulkumarch]

Good

[@android-er9fg]

Burning titanium powder also can react with Socl2

[@TheHVA08Reader]

Is it thiophosgene?

[@ChemicalForce]

No, thiophosgene is - kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2q4dGmpmLGolcU

[@TheHVA08Reader]

@@ChemicalForce thank!

[@runcycleskixc]

when I ride my Ti bike I will make sure not to spill any SOCl2 on it.

[@trumanburbank6899]

Will it react with gold?

[@ChemicalForce]

No

[@nixrate]

nitro esters,

[@emptysoul6743]

Now make COCl2

[@scottc2455]

It's SOCl2, not SOCL2.

[@ChemicalForce]

oops! thank you! corrected

[@AndyU96]

SOCL2 would give less tendency for misunderstandings though. SOCI2 could be understood as Sulfur Oxygen Carbon Iodine...

[@BackYardScience2000]

@@AndyU96 he wrote a lower case L, not an I. Just like the words I'm using with L's in them. Lol

[@travisheck5979]

Sulfur trioxide next. That stuff is nasty

[@ChemicalForce]

I have it, but for the video with that stuff we need to have a tank for inert conditions, or ultradry place :D

[@penroc3]

just found you and your great

[@mihirsanghvi9876]

whre on earth does this guy purchase these substances in such rediculous amounts ???

[@강경민-z4j]

Omg.....

[@michaelf7093]

I need some of that! Where do you get it?

[@ChemicalForce]

A couple of fellow chemists lent me some ;)

[@lajoswinkler]

Please don't copy the bad lingo of American youtuber-chemista. It's titanium, not "titanium metal". Also, it's oxygen, not "oxygen gas". No need for such redundancy, and it's not even according to IUPAC. It's just some crap that arose in American universities and then got copied and copied for years, and now exploded on youtube. Apart from this, it's great you're showing obscure reactions of incompatible chemicals.

[@BackYardScience2000]

Nobody cares how he says it. As long as he gets the point across it's fine. Please don't nitpick a persons way of talking.

[@FarhanAmin1994]

[@vit.nik.4172]

Аggressive substance.

[@knutritter461]

Pretty a standard chemical to create simple acid chlorides... 😉 And btw... acid chlorides taste horrific! 😂

[@giovannipelissero1886]

It's just painful to watch such an useful compound like SOCl being destroyed by water and temperature. *sad*

[@skilstopaybils4014]

Now I understand where that red colour comes from in my reactions though. I'll have to watch the temp more closely from now on.

[@vytautaseicas4283]

Mix it with fuming nitric acid

[@martintuma9974]

Do dimethylmercury. (But do not become another KW)

[@birgirsnr4710]

WHO are you i need a JOB doing this !! please Love Iceland

[@angeliawelch9438]

I dont understand how you have all the chemicals that are kept in max security in America. Individuals would never be sold something like this and any lab would make you write a freakin presentation and account for every ml in a log. Im so jealous can you please do some syntheses.

[@BackYardScience2000]

He works for a university or a lab somewhere in the EU. They are less strict on it there.

[@reinisaugustins8555]

​@@BackYardScience2000 I think that the sale, marketing and use of this reagent is restricted not only in the US, because it is listed in the Schedule 3(wide peaceful uses, but has the ability to be used as a chemical weapon or to be a precursor to Schedule 1(nearly no peaceful uses) or Schedule 2 (limited peaceful use) precursors or chemical weapons) of the Chemical Weapons Convention and because legislation in some countries, like Russia consider thionyl chloride to be a drug precursor, with arising restrictions and bans on supply, use and marketing.

[@davidreed3021]

I've had companies sell me reagents like this for hobbyist purposes, but require an ID and fill out a form outlining the intended use. Hell one time I was able to purchase sodium azide off amazon, but I think they've gotten stricter (i.e. requiring a business account now for most chem purchases).

[@reinisaugustins8555]

@@davidreed3021 Sodium azide is far scarier and more toxic than thionyl chloride and some state that sodium azide is as toxic as hydrogen cyanide.

[@gsum1000]

Nice vid. Shame about the weird farting noises in the background.