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[@jordanspinar9147]

The difference between a MOBA like League and MMO skin or costume that matters to me is that many of the League skins change the look of the spells and abilities. So not only am I getting a nice looking new skin for my champ, their abilities also change and look different, which to me is more valuable. I don't play that many MMO's but from the ones I did play, the cosmetics simply were not worth it. Sure, I'd look cooler but my abilities look the same with or without it. I don't know enough about game design, but if it is possible for skins in an MMO to change the look of abilities and skills, then I'd be waaay more interested in buying them.

[@yyhn7168]

There are some MMO's that sell ability skins, e.g. AION, but yea

[@thenecroking6170]

That one berserker skin in Lost Ark that they gave out in beta was so fkin cool, and playing normal berserker feels so off

[@bramt2000]

From my experience, cosmetics in MMO's are most of the time just added decorations, like a hat or other gun. With league of legends skins they are trying to redefine a whole character concept.

[@LasermanSteam]

Some MMOs also sell cosmetics specifically for certain skills or "themes" for your abilities, for example Path of Exile. Other MMOs with more abilities tend to sell these cheaper but since in PoE you often are only using just a few abilities per build I guess they can get away with charging more?

[@nixiedreamstar]

Its funny u mention that, ff xiv, as example, only sells house furniture and gear oriented cosmetics. No animations whatsoever. THAT BEING SAID, modders can completely change both the animations and the vfx of said skills to something completely different, I even remember seeing someone that changed the moveset of samurai to the animations of vergil from devil may cry. So the game allows for that sort of change but the developers never tried to dip into this sort of skill cosmetics market. Why? Is anybodies guess.

[@firelynx1266]

I haven't played a lot of multiplayer games. But in league Skins not only change the visual effects but also the sound effects and the sound effects play a big part in expressing the fantasy of a skin. Some skins make you feel like you are playing a different character. See High Noon Jhin a few years back. Also, the somewhat "cartoony" art style makes it easy for a Futuristic robot, a demon cowboy and a lady in a swimsuit be in the same game and nothing will feel out of place.

[@sci-figameguy8241]

Facts, Riot's art team quite literally carries the company

[@OmniKoneko]

@@sci-figameguy8241 yeah, that's pretty true with most things, there's so many games or movies that have great art but it has a trash story or gameplay

[@Exonick_]

Are the cosmetics making enough money? Me spending 700$ on a free to play game.

[@AltumDolor]

2:16 the way he stopped laughing lmao

[@michaeljava8736]

Fake laugh

[@johnbuster4268]

Jerma type behavior

[@Tom-ge4yh]

I thought the same when I first watched the interview, he started off with a great question and didnt have the self awareness to know when to be quiet. Often his questions ended up stupid because he'd talked too long

[@chedisLoL]

Its a power move tbh. He's trying to make himself seem like he knows what hes talking about or that he knows the answer before Ghostcrawler says it so he projects his opinion inside the question then ends up in a thought loop.

[@greenbean5186]

lol ok npc

[@barney2120]

I like that kind of interview better, it feels like it is an actual discourse rather than just an interviewer talking to an interviewee.

[@Hunter-fs2xe]

0:10 great question! 0:22 Oh, he’s still talking? 0:37 didn’t you ask him a question? 0:53 oh, now he’s allowed to talk

[@xeric1953]

Fact. Dude is hands down the last person I would ever want to interview anyone ever again. Ever.

[@KirkpatrickSounds]

The thing about cosmetics in MMO is that it runs the risk of compromising some aspects of the game like visual progression. I'm sure there's plenty of cosmetics they can produce that aren't strictly gear related though.

[@vergil8833]

Something I think would be cool is cosmetics like animations. Thats a big part of why legendary skins in League are so well regarded, the most important thing they change is the animations, from the way your character runs to how they swing a sword. I like the idea of those kinds of cosmetics in an MMO. It especially lets people who only play one character really pump up their main further by alowwing them to customize the way they run and jump and sword their sword. It has no gameplay effects, but it really changes how gameplay feels. It could be split up like Dota 2 customization aswell. So if you really like one of the axe animations you can buy for 2 dollars then you can just get that one new animation set. And if you want to spend a bit on your main you can mix and match different types of animation customizations, like you can maybe make your characetr run like hes drunk but fist fight like a shaolin monk, creating your own fantasy of a drunken fighter without that actually being a class in the game. Same with if you're a fan of berserkers you can maybe pay for an animation set when your character uses only one hand for his giant two-handed sword, and another which makes him sprint like a raging bull. Or on the flip side you can get an animation set that makes your warrior very graceful and fluid like a samurai or something like that. The class is the same but the amount of characetr fantasies you can turn that class into is greatly expaded. This is only enhanced by spell effects you might be able to buy aswell, just like with a LoL skin. You could really turn a handful of classes into a thousand class fantasies if you just pump out enough animations and spell effects people get to play with. I think it would sell like crazy and none of it has anything to do with progression. Armor and so on remains sacred. Though with armor I think theres things they can do aswell, like allowing people to buy alterations to armor they already have. But that would kind of force them to introduce a transmog system since buying an altered look of a gear you will eventually swap out kind of sucks. So what they can otherwise do is give people 2 sets of armor. The real gameplay armor and "casual clothes" roleplaying armor. If they had something like this they could sell roleplaying armor like suits from Piltover and stuff. But I personally think the animations thing would be enough. Especially since they could expand it further to voice lines and emotes aswell, two thinsg that league skins also get. What I hope they don't do is bring in a bunch of League skins lines. I really don't want to see someone running around in Shurima in full PROJECT sci-fi robot armor or a candy cane pink-bearded freljordian.

[@moufo8253]

I think people are more excited about mmos if theres already an existing universe around it

[@marvin8291]

indeed. wow had that. now riot has it. i think just because if that it will blow up.

[@vergil8833]

League of Legends style skins would be great for the MMO I think. By that I mean things you can buy that change the animations and spell effects of your character. Legendary skins in Leagye does all that, new animations, new efefcts, new voice lines, new everything. Thats what the MMO should do aswell, except for the actual armor of the skin. Armor I think should be just progression, but that doesn't matter if you can get all the other cool stuff. Like if you're playing a fox person you'd most liekly be mroe hyped about being able to give yourself 6 tails instead of one, and you can make them glow, and they her completely unique animations for everything you do in the game, and you can make your ears sharper and glowing and your eyes and the way you run and the way you swing a sword the way your character sounds. When you can change all that shit it you don't need the ability to buy a suit of armor aswell. The way your character moves is 100 times more important. It's basically like Arcana skins in Dota 2. It changes the base model, the animations, the effects, the voice lines but you can still slap all the other armor on top of that. I think it is also a genius way to increase the amount of class fantasies you can put in the game. For example if you play a warrior and you want to be berserker guy you can buy animations that make your character run like a raging bull while swinging his 2h sword with only one hand, but if you want to be more of a blademaster you can buy elegant animations that makes your character swing the sword like a paint brush. Thats one class fulfilling two class fantasies better than any class in wow ever has simply by letting you change the way your character moves. We know that Riot is capable of doing this because that is exactly what they league skins do. Gameplay wise Darius doesn't change when you put on his Basketball skin, and it doesn't change when you put on his God King skin, yet they both feel completely different and fulfill different fantasies. Thats the shit you should be able to do to your MMO character. They won't need to sell armor pieces. Though they could sell roleplaying armor, I wouldn't mind that. Like maybe everyone gets "casual clothes" that your character might wear in cities and stuff if you toggle it to automatically swap. They could sell a bunch of that stuff. The only reason why I don't want actual costumes is because I don't want a transmog system in the game. Though that too depends on how good the armor variety is. If armor changes based on what region you're from then thats good, no transmog required, but if every type of character shares the same armor like in WoW then I would like a transmog system because I think it looks stupid when characters don't look like they fit the lore. I don't want to see a Noxian wearing samurai armor.

[@Gomace]

In regards to WoW: They should add your party and raid team to the WoW loading screens, like the League of Legends loadings screen at the start of the match. You could then sell cosmetic borders and weird things to pimp the loading screen. Another thing is they should add a necromancer skin to Warlocks that just change all of their spells to fit Necromancers. Make it paid only, sure. People would buy it.

[@Nata-ch2bk]

12:28 -> if it's just a one time thing, that would be perfectly fine. Everyone that's actually serious about the game will pay the one time inventory slot augment and then everything else will be only cosmetics for the rest of the game's lifespan. If there are new pay for power options coming out regularly and you absolutely need to get them to stay competitive in the game, that's where it becomes wrong, in my opinion.

[@mattpast9822]

Guild wars 2 is free to play, with just skins. But like how soda said, can get more character slots, name changes, bigger inventory, bigger bank, etc

[@meepmeep5668]

Interview starts off by saying that riot games has infinite money to sustain projects but entire interview questions are about f2p/subscription 💀

[@Riku-Leela]

Going off of MOBA league skins I believe if they carried across the same design style and series's of designs into the MMO itself I reckon you could actually run the MMO off those skin designs. Dude just do a Star Guardian event and I mean my bank account is emptied istg

[@TheAntonio6579]

Asmongol turned this into like a 1 hour fucking video

[@Zwow007]

the man pauses like every 5 seconds and has a mini 5 minute rant or discussion every pause its his thing

[@SovereignAi]

And it is 10 times more enjoyable to watch, because he actually has constructive thoughts. And also his chat doesn't have brain tumors.

[@combatwalrus9760]

Cash shop, sub and b2p is always a choice of two, once you do all three people are generally turned off. I don't know anyone that is okay with Sub games that are B2P AND have a massive cash shop, they tolerate it but they do not like it.

[@kbsskb788]

For me personally, I don't care about cash shops at all as long as you're not able to buy player power at max level. Add all the cosmetics you want as long as the game is good :D

[@QMS9224]

F2p with a cash shop is probably the best option according for grossing and fun. If I’m playing a free game I love I will 100% spend more money in the cash shop anyways. Usually with sub model game there’s always a time clock on when I will quit

[@combatwalrus9760]

@@QMS9224 Agreed depending on the actual cash shop.

[@combatwalrus9760]

@@kbsskb788 If it's an MMORPG, cosmetics can be awful in a cash shop.

[@kbsskb788]

@@combatwalrus9760 I'd take a cash shop with cosmetics in a good F2P game over the other options any day. Why? Because it's not something you're forced into if you want to play the game. It's simple a option for those who enjoy it enough to buy something extra. While looking good can affect how you feel about the game, not looking good does not restrict you from content in any way.

[@FiestaBroad]

To me the big difference between skins in League of Legends and costumes/skins in an MMO is that LoL has like 140 champions they can sell skins for while most people will only play 1 to 2 characters in an MMO (although there are psychopaths that have like 10 alts). Sure, no one will play and buy skins for every single champion, but most people will play a handful of champions and be enticed to buy skins for them. Then again, an MMO has other ways of selling cosmetics apart from just costumes, like mounts and pets for instance. So who knows, maybe it can work.

[@alexs29]

Going by their previous games & projects, they'll be F2P, but rely heavily on cosmetics AND some sort of battle pass model.

[@justsomeguywithamoustachea2712]

No shit sherlock

[@wild5851]

as usual the battle pass is like a monthly sub thats optional and cosmetics i love em hope they do sorta like they do with league where some cosmetics change the look of some abilities

[@noworth4011]

"Free To Play" "Pay for Inventory Space" "Cosmetics" Smells like Path of Exile. Its literally impossible to play at its "high end" w/o spending. Also the Hype surrounding "Riot's MMO" reminds me of "Ashes of Creation" (where the CEO streams Among Us instead of working to finalize the product). Which means the game will be New World v2.0 aka Disposable Garbage. Lights out.

[@bassmati112]

Some sort of dye to change ur gear color/glow would be cool. Instead of a skin changing ur whole look.

[@a.o.skurtt]

" if we stopped making champions people would be like oh this sucks" no, no i wouldnt with the champions you've put out these days

[@Kizoja]

I think no one has issues with skins in LoL because like the guy in chat said, you don't earn the skins in LoL. Skins are purely cosmetic. There's almost 0 alternative to show off something you earned. The progression of LoL and the thing that drives players to PLAY LoL is not cosmetics. Cosmetics are huge driving factor for a variety of types of content in MMOs, which is why the game suffers when the monetization is so heavily modeled around cosmetics.

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

Holy sh*t this chat is so clueless

[@Grumpypu]

Sodas community always gives me brain damage, its getting close to asmons community levels of dumb

[@Skindred727]

2:43 he admits they are working on a MMOFPS Valorant game. im calling it now 20/5/23

[@gokiburi-chan4255]

soda gay

[@necronious1456]

I hope so!

[@ivotoceny3923]

I was thinking that maybe to make skins for comforting, dont make it an armor cosmsetic, but spells cosmetics, so it changes how they look, same as in league, that way it is much more interesting.

[@KaiZeEKing]

F2p w/ cosmetics purchases and other shop cosmetic-like. Small conveniences. And a battlepass(optional sub). As long as it isnt direct progression, and character power.

[@thebeastmaster2710]

pay to win or paying every month will be the worst. 1 time buy of the game at a hight price and paying for skins is fine.

[@dPokey]

interviewer sounded like ludwig

[@denvervaillancourt193]

the best mmo thatll ever release if they stick full ftp and only release cosmetic for $

[@denvervaillancourt193]

i want a skill based mmo

[@marvin8291]

the thing with cosmetics. riot has the advantage that they already have a ton of skins from league available. they can simply copy every skin of league and implement it in their upcoming mmo. people would buy them. furthermore we dont know any graphics style or even fidelity. if it somewhat looks just a bit realistic with 4-8k textures surely i'd also buy some badass or gorgeous looking skins. i hope it will be cosmetics only.

[@tytus3048]

I kinda doubt people would be excited and not upset if riot just reused all their skins from league into their mmo. Also how would that theoretically even work, all of riots skins are based around individual champions, not an entire race. Plus people would want to be unique, especially in an MMO, no one would be up for the idea that everyone is wandering around looking the same with the same skins. I think the only things they can take cosmetically from league are the themes and concepts for cosmetics but they'd have to still make unique changes to keep people interested, in my opinion

[@BrendanZanitCoen]

Full 2 hr interview should be coming soon

[@smartflexer]

There are so many that buy skins in New World, but still nobody cares about them. I have never looked at another player to see how he look like in New World.

[@malka4394]

Blizzard at 9:50 - "wtf is this guy talking about close your ears he is insane"

[@rasenpapi5653]

playing warframe taught me a lesson on paying vs playing could i grind for 10 hours and get a new prime weapon? probably or could i just use 3 hours wage from my job to buy the weapon off the market chat? its all give and take, for someone who works 40 hours a week, it's almost always worth to just buy an item or upgrade with real money straight up because of the time you would be investing to get it for free just isnt available to you. now it changes with how many games you play and how often. Lets say if you only play Warframe, and have no quarrel with playing it all weekend long or all evening long, then spending for an item becomes less appealing. but if you play Warframe, Tarkov, Minecraft, COD, Overwatch, or whatever, and maybe cant play all weekend and evening long, then the decision to spend becomes alot easier. its the same philosophy as fast-passes in amusement parks. do you spend 80 extra dollars to go on rides constantly and repeatedly, or do you save the $80 and instead wait in the longer lines and go on less rides in a day

[@1xTheDarkKnightx1]

I think in an Riot MMO the cosmetics will be - Housing - Clothing - Mounts.

[@DynamiteDominique]

To piggyback off your comment, I think it will also be tied to yearly holidays like Chinese new years and the holloween/christmas winter, and summertime pool party outfits. Shit that's more for fun than cool and leaves the cool shit as dungeon drops and questlines.

[@ID_Limit]

Anyone remember APB? GVMERS video

[@Onyx474]

I dislike free to play games. A lot of the part of playing games for me, is progression, not making my character ‘stronger’ , but also look better. These days with things like Halo Infinite , you can already just buy the best looking thing in store, thats one entire aspect gone from the game. There’s also a thing where whenever a free to play game lacks basic features or has problems, people just say “but its free why even complain just play” . Sad that every game is basically like this these days. That being said i play Path of Exile basically every league and although thats not an MMO i guess it shows if the gameplay is there (most times) it can work. Idk.

[@Tabnito]

anyone who thinks riot has ever done anything close to pay 2 win are delusional and shouldn't be able to speak on anything related to monetization in video games.

[@TobiOnar]

I never imagined someone could be this bad at just asking a person questions.

[@ManBearPigLOL]

15 minute soda reacts are much more digestible than 1hr asmon reacts but asmon is still king of reacts

[@lewisgarland1259]

No Asmongold just waffles on and on an believes that he knows everything. I like that Asmon find interesting videos to react to but i just click the main link provided so I dont have to listen to him lol

[@ManBearPigLOL]

@@lewisgarland1259 he doesn't believe he knows everything he does a fantastic job at digesting the information he is presented and giving his take

[@lewisgarland1259]

I don't value Asmon's take.

[@QMS9224]

@@lewisgarland1259 disagree, asmon actually pauses the video and gives in depth responses and interacts with the chat. Soda just watched the video and is quiet the whole time that not really reacting

[@lewisgarland1259]

@@QMS9224 🤣

[@BasedSallad]

Watching sodas video on this interview truly gives you a sense of how much the goblin actually pauses every single video he reacts to. The goblin managed to make it a 35 min video

[@BeardyDoesCovers]

I'm really excited for this game.

[@g7u7r7a7]

Holy fk, I had to wait almost a minute to let him answer the question!

[@sreka9460]

a whole minute??? holy shit dude that's crazy.. like, 60 whole seconds? six and zero !?!? insane.

[@guywithmanyname5247]

Bruh why is the interviewer looping on and on about monitization questions the guy already answered it ....

[@Jeimuzu17]

If it's f2p have a shop for cosmetics but offer a subscription kinda like eso

[@williampansarhandske5756]

I say soda you say

[@DejaVutq]

gay

[@RealTaIk]

I paid for skins in f2p mmos but those skins were always a one time buy. I have over 1k hours in lost ark and only paid 75€ so far, 50€ for the early access stuff and 25€ later on for a skin for my new main. I also have over 3k hours in tera online and there I also only paid once for a skin. Unless they don't actually have a system in place in which you play multiple characters I kinda doubt they can sustain themselves with only selling skins.

[@Spriguh]

All about the whales

[@ZipzZzzz5]

O they will, free to play makes the most money. There are alot of people whit alot of money.

[@RealTaIk]

@@ZipzZzzz5 no, p2w makes the most money.

[@urkput]

I don't believe in ADHD but now I do.

[@redroyce4590]

Is there any MMO that only has like a subscription fee of around 30-60 bucks for a whole year? (so no monthly or whatever... only yearly subscription) How would that fare?

[@Navhkrin]

30 buck for whole year and 5$ monthly would be great

[@SpikeSystem]

Dawg don't fall for it it fucking Ghostcrawler LMAO

[@martynasbalt775]

Soda's chat is literally 12yr kids with no braincells. No wonder he never reads it.

[@raspingcoin06]

Honestly in the long term I see Riot making a system pretty similar to Destiny 2. Base game is free and activities too but if you want to continue the story you have to pay the DLCs and you can also buy cosmetics if you want.

[@Creamouz]

So dGon has a random twin huh

[@dmacpher]

Dude is high on his own vocal supply. Had to end it

[@matiasortiz9014]

the sub system could be a lot better if they give you "TIME" to play the game, not a date where you would have to pay again ito keep playing, imagine if you pay for 30 days and you play for 5, stop for 25 and come back at the end of the month with still 25 days to keep playing the way you want paying for a sub with a due date, it makes the game feel like a job, where you must play to get the total value of your subscription

[@schooliscool4578]

This sounds like a great system at first until you consider the fact that the game, upon launch, will have a sign saying "20 hours of playtime left". Idk about you but I would be scared of playing, I would try to be perfectly efficient with every minute, would be scared of afking/chilling and I'd feel my minutes running out, and would feel discouraged if I spent time and didnt achieve anything in-game. Furthermore, coming up with a fair amount of time in a sub model would be almost impossible, because if you're too generous people will literally just buy it once and play for the next 8 months on and off using only 1 month worth of sub money, and if they make it too small it just gets horrible for the player, there's really no winning for the company in this type of model. People who are hard addicted and wanna play all day every day would be forced to spend way more money than they do with this model. I do agree that a sub with a due date DOES feel like a job and isn't good, I'd rather flat out trust riot and buy the game for like 50$ or obviously ideally play for free and have the game be funded by skins. Most MMOs crumble because of monetization but if anyone can get it right, its the king of f2p; riot. If riot aren't able to monetize this game while keeping it f2p and not holding quality of life hostage then MMO's are most likely just a dead genre that won't be worth pursuing, riot is kinda the last hope.

[@minkorabadzhiyski35]

I'm surprised that you, as a big pvp player have never turned to GW2 as a mmo.

[@soochsosah]

GW2's combat is less appealing for PVP players. Not saying it's bad but it's pretty jaring for those who are familiar with pure tab targeting. Also, I think the way WOW handles PVP is much better than GW2 in a logistical standpoint.

[@necronious1456]

This guy had a golden opportunity to ask a ton of great questions and squandered it to ramble off about nothing.

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

you realise this just a small part of the whole interview? The interview is I think like 2 hours long.

[@FMN3095]

This guy had a golden opportunity to not say some dumbshit and squandered it to ramble off about 12,5% of the interview

[@bencegergohocz5988]

the full interview is 2 hours long

[@Le0_0-]

Lets not forget that riot cant allow greg to just start telling the details about the development like nothing, his answers are very restricted by the confidential policy.

[@necronious1456]

@@Le0_0- I'm not saying that info was left on the table, necessarily. But an interviewer should be doing less than 30% of the talking and 70% of listening to awesome answers to their brilliant questions.

[@DannyHsn]

You cut off some of his talking points

[@RevDany23]

From the title i thought this was going to be a Risitas meme

[@ushi6976]

Personally would rather p2p than have any type p2w.

[@lexolus1308]

The interview is so short and bad, he could have got so much information and instead just asqued for the pay to win stuff, wich we already now riot and the hole interview is about that, just tell me stuff about the game, gameplay, artstyle, sistems idk we will see if its pay to win when it comes out so lets keep taht short and get to the good stuff

[@deppengu]

What about armor being transparent armor that is only somewhat visible when taking damage, and the color of the transparent armor shows the rarity or whatever?

[@garoarcanine6760]

Like a sorta mage-armor effect that shimmers around your clothes when hit?

[@deppengu]

@@garoarcanine6760 ye, that way you can keep cosmetics

[@serjicaltool]

I was glad to see that Greg and the team at Riot are so forthcoming about the upcoming MMO, but damn, I wish this interview was done by just about anyone else. This guys ability to interview and ask concise coherent questions is just nonexistent. This is the third time I've tried to watch this interview, I've quit halfway through solely due to the interviewer.

[@iiVitality]

He has pretty decent questions, but he doesn't know when to shut up lmao

[@cleaved3453]

P2W is better than sub, as long as the things you can pay for are capped, and easily achievable. For example if you spend 10$ for 2 hours of grind, and the grind is 10 hours, then p2w is fine, its when p2w saves you 500 hours that the game isnt worth playing anymore. Plus comsetics are just going to be nuts anyway.

[@kylewolfe4089]

Bad take p2w is a major turn off for most people and I don’t think riot is stupid enough to risk it there’s a reason wow and ff14 are still the biggest mmos

[@cleaved3453]

@@kylewolfe4089 The only reason they are the biggest is that the only mmos that come out, are wow clones or majorly pay2w. Thats all.

[@Gabcemoi]

No one here realises that ghost crawler aka Greg street is the one who destroyed wow by taking over lead game designer in cata ? What class was never nerfed ? ; Mage . What GC was playing ? ; Mage . This is born to be bad .

[@nixiedreamstar]

Personally as someone that jumps between mmos, NOTHING beats a good sub mode. As much as he can say 'oh its cosmetic only' it is still a very finnicky thing to do in a f2p game. I give as an example phatansy star online 2 ngs. The game is f2p, it does have p2w elements but not only that, 99.99% of the ingame cosmetics are bought through gatchas. I keep hearing from my alliance members in that game how they love to not pay a sub but at the same time they spend 100usd every 2 weeks in gatchas to get cosmetics, which I'd like to remind u, all cosmetics are locked behind a pay wall. So u might grind and all but u will never look 'good' without e pending money. And like ppl in ffxiv say 'Glam is the TRUE end game'

[@antsteng862]

But the big problem is people who don’t have the money to pay monthly for a game as cosmetics is ALWAYS a choice regardless of peer pressure or just thinking it looks sick. I played through League since season 4 and I didn’t spend a single dime and I only got skins cuz they gave us loot boxes to get skins. I play Valorant now as well and I did spend on some skins cuz I thought it was sick. Games with f2p is always better at least in my opinion as my broke friends can hop on as well and we can all just have a good time

[@antsteng862]

Adding on valorant also allows f2p players to pick up skins for guns in game so they can still enjoy skins without paying I say it’s a win win

[@jenu2959]

The game needs very good art designers , just adding bright colors does not make it creative

[@びいろ]

What the fuck are u saying

[@iamanelectron8168]

Bro did u ever see any of Riots Art. They are amazing.

[@smolarteffect]

homie i think you need to watch any necrit riot MMO video because they already got that covered.

[@skabbmensnabb9086]

dude what, art is the least of their worries.

[@Jayyon]

nahhhhh, lil bro is lost 💀

[@ramontavaresdacruz2256]

F2P aren't really good for MMOs unless you really don't care about cosmectics. For a MMO to generate profit being F2P they'll have to invest really hard in monetization even if it's not "P2W" it's gonna be bad for a huge part of the playerbase. It's not up to me but I find a barrier of entry healthier for the game and it's community, when you have a P2P system only those really interested in playing will pay for it while also keeping some kids/teens out of the game

[@f4ephilosophy691]

Its 100% going to be F2P, Riot has had far to much success with the model (Val, and LoL) to quit now. Question is how will they handle it? Like Soda said a little P2W isnt a bad thing if the game is free, its like Path Of Exile, sure you dont have to spend money but there is a cost to entry for late game content where you pretty much have to have stash tabs.

[@Frey_64]

@@f4ephilosophy691 yeah, it all depends on gearing and crafting systems we might get some tipe of stash tab we pretty much need for endgame content. also going the cosmetic route with skills/abilities also changing its the way to go.

[@Freeze070310]

I hope the riot game is going to be with sub , why ? cause i dont want to buy skins for my charackter to make him look cool i want to beat the shit out of hard bosses to get the cool stuff and look good its more fun if you have the "Epic" looking gear when you earned it in game without paying for a good look

[@thebeastmaster2710]

Sub will be the worst thing to have. I would rather buy it once and have it always then sub every month to play. Like the dude said when i pay and can't play that time its wasted money and if feels stupid. Also just because you don't want to buy skin's doesn't mean others won't. The amount if money some people spend on skins is huge. To the point that that 1% of thr player base spends as if all 100% spend like 5-10$ per month.

[@bloodchild4554]

first

[@denizalbayrak3579]

these are actual NPC questions

[@Lolle93]

No its not. Your are not talking with your friend but with a director who can't say shit.

[@denizalbayrak3579]

@@Lolle93 ''do you think budget plays a role in an mmo's success'' = '' does a human need oxygen to live''

[@Johan-di6md]

This game is going to be sooo dogshit, it'll pop off like any game during its launch but afterwards it'll drop off like New World did.

[@cd2340]

absolute dog shit take.