Softube Console 1 Fader - AES 2019 - Sound On Sound

[@aubreymcgee8230]

10 faders match up nicely with an Apollo Twin.

[@laz288]

"The smoothest fader feel in the industry". What a salesman.

[@SoftubeStudios]

We do love Todd for a reason 😄 /Tom

[@jonathang.tedesco5254]

@@SoftubeStudios Alps ?

[@Particle67]

Yeah! I'll surely take one of this thing later when price will be dropped. Console One is amazing i can't mix without it.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

YESSS THIS IS WHAT I WAS SPAMMING GEARSLUTS FOR FOR YEARS

[@SoftubeStudios]

We're so happy it's finally here! /Tom

[@TommyVarekai]

@@SoftubeStudios hey Tom, does it have CC midi capabilities yet for 3rd party plugins?

[@RealHomeRecording]

Not too shabby. If you automate your mixes they are very useful.

[@peaterrepeater4441]

how they couldnot add scribblestrips that read out the channels name from the DAW is beyond me.

[@DigitxlRxse]

I’ll be grabbing both this & a console 1! Just sold my slate raven mti2 😅😅😅😅

[@dylandrake887]

"intuitive for you to use without having to look up at the screen" No scribble strips...

[@henrikpetersson3463]

Dylan Drake Yep. That's the deal-breaker for me. They had the chance to make a product that would make C1 independent of the computer screen. I guess the direction they are taking is simply not for me.

[@Seany06]

lol yeah first thing I looked for. I know they're a small company but 500 for a controller of this size with no scribble strips is.. smh.

[@WilliamKitchens]

So what’s the rack holding the pair? A prototype? Available and from whom?

[@BluedotProductions]

They're available everywhere now, in many materials. I'm making my own as they're pretty simple.

[@tonyrapa-tonyrapa]

Hmmm... only three buttons to assign transport controls.... no LEDs displays... and $670... why do manufacturers always fall short?

[@edimeanz]

Tony Rapa did analog consoles have LED displays? they trying to make it analog and away from displays so you mix with ears, not eyes. Avid S1 May be your choice tho. Filled with displayed for twice the price.

[@tonyrapa-tonyrapa]

@@edimeanz LED displays at the top of each fader to let you know which channel you are mainpulating.... nothing to do with mixing with your eyes/ears.

[@edimeanz]

Tony Rapa ok cool

[@tonyrapa-tonyrapa]

@@edimeanz :-)

[@jordanzish]

Kind of defeats the purpose but I see where you're coming from.

[@AironExTv]

Looks great. 10 faders does seem better. Oh, and they're 1200mm :) . I like this unit. If I was mixing a lot of music, this would top my list of gear to look at. Just the hold+fader functions are right up my alley for tactile control. I also like the GUI light up for tracks I'm touching. Scribble strips would be nice, but then I'll looking at the screen most of the time anyway. I depend on the "Select" buttons lighting up when I use my faders(FP16), not the scribble strips. Those would need to be coloured like the tracks to be really useful too. Nice product.

[@KazKasozi]

Good product. Price is a little unrealistic for what it does. We will wait when that changes.

[@fredfox3851]

Looks nice but seems like it should cost less than console one, which includes SSL emulation software.

[@henrikpetersson3463]

Well, the hardware is a lot more expensive to make.

[@fredfox3851]

@@henrikpetersson3463 Ah. Understood. For the record, I like my Console One, especially since you added Apollo integration.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

From a hardware production point of view this product is way more expensive. The Console 1 is basically "just" a "midi"box. Good quality (motorized) faders are really expensive. Cheap faderbanks for more than 8 faders have always been more than a thousand bucks. To compare, the cheaply made Presonus 16 bank is 1k and the 8 banks is now 450 but it's in sale here now. So you are getting a higher quality product for around the same price as the cheaper alternatives. That seems more than fair. 1000 bucks for both the Console 1 + Faderpack. 1 MCU for 8 faders is more expensive and you don't get the software with it.

[@imdurc]

@@annekedebruyn7797 People are far too into consumerism. Jump on ebay and you'll find full-working products of the last 10 years which will do the same, if not more. An M-audio Project mix is fantastically cheap on ebay these days and you can probably buy 5 for a similar price. Don't be afraid of 2nd hand gear :)

[@annekedebruyn7797]

@@imdurcFully metal constructed faders are still going for far beyond this MSRP second hand. Also, the reason you buy this one is because it works with their software which other devices wont so I am not sure why you are writing this.

[@ArguZ72]

Now cross your fingers that Apollo Central support is being updated and the fader can also control the Apollo Console...

[@daveington]

How about automation or mapping plugin controls? Anyone know if this goes that far? Currently I have a Console 1 and a Faderport 8 - both used in StudioOne. I love my Console 1, and I'm only semi-happy with my FP8. Wondering if this could totally replace my FP8. The FP8 annoys me that I can only map 8 plugin parameters in StudioOne (Presonus' own DAW!). If Fader 1 maps plugs to pages, I'm entirely in.

[@KarlClarkeMusic]

Only thing is the FP8 has small LED displays with track title. That is kinda what I would love to have with the Faderport

[@zeddicus4885]

Yeah displays with track names wouldve been better.

[@AxeRocker88]

Guys, track names are on the pop-up / interface on the screen. Putting it on the unit would be overkill.

[@KarlClarkeMusic]

@@AxeRocker88 I sometimes use the Console 1 without the interface popup. Just purely listening to the sound instead of looking at an FFT or the compressor. To do this for a full mix without some indication of track name would be difficult

[@SoftubeStudios]

There are always the different display modes, the most simple of which just shows which bank of tracks you're on (and consequently, which fader represents which track) plus a small stereo meter for each track. This meter bridge display mode takes up very little screen real-estate, so you can use it as an alternative to on-unit scribble strips. /Tom

[@betov75]

Can I use this in Ableton Live and also, being a classical composer, can I control my plugins with the faders? For example, assigning 8 macros to the motorized faders? Are they noisy or really smooth? Don't need to be super fast.

[@frankyr.8514]

I would of like a real example of what this new application does, you only talked about specs, but I don’t know what it does or sounds like...thx

[@misteremagic]

Also completely compatible with UAD console ?

[@johnbayman6102]

That's my question!

[@remikristiansen489]

Why stop at 10?? 11 gives louder mixes!!;)

[@houseofmonteiro4453]

Hello, I would like to see if you can get me out of a doubt. I bought a Console 1 fader and I use the reaper. I installed the plugin and everything else. But I wanted to use the Console to control my DAW directly and not just the plugin. I don't know if I was wrong and it doesn't have the function to control the DAW directly or if I don't know how to configure it. If you can help me I would be grateful

[@richardwadereviews]

it is probably too late for advice, but you have to use the VST3 version to control that stuff

[@Micah421]

Any support controlling Pro Tools?

[@paul_ward_music]

TBH I'm not interested in the console plug-in, or in the emulation of hardware/tape - and I wouldn't want to install those. But can this be used as a simple fader controller? Specifically Cubase.

[@endlessnameless4369]

When will there be full integration for Ableton? Still waiting on that for my Console 1

[@BluedotProductions]

It works now.

[@boomish69]

The console 1 has lots of problems with Logic Pro that’s not been fixed for some years, It works incredibly in Studio One however.

[@jonathang.tedesco5254]

Interesting..do you know with Ableton live ?

[@vlissblisskiss]

I know it'll get me roasted in the comments but I REALLY wish they'd integrate FL Studio support into stuff like this. I do all my mixing in FL and it's criminally under-supported.

[@st0rmchild]

The good news is that the deeper integration is achieved through features added to the VST3 protocol by PreSonus, and any other DAW can implement those features. In other words, they haven't made an exclusive arrangement with PreSonus to only provide deep integration in Studio One. The VST3 extensions are currently being beta tested in Ableton Live (10.1.9), which will have full Console 1 / Console 1 Fader support when that ships. So this could very well make its way to FL too.

[@brianmclendon1647]

Getting one ASAP!!!!!!

[@15bleach51]

Yeah, but it doesn't show tracks name...

[@azenkwed]

Can I use plugins other then UAD plugins in the channel strip?

[@robbierobinson6712]

I don't know if this is for me I just spent all this money trading out all my old equipment to buy the new Raven slate dual mti2's with the console and the two sidecars we were getting away from real sliders and going to touch screen so I don't know if I want to go back to sliders after getting rid of my control 24 maybe if I open another Studio I might could use that but for those that can use it and think that it's great I think that's wonderful.

[@jacobharley7117]

Will this work smoothly with Reaper?

[@TikiHorea]

It should. Console 1 works fine with Reaper.

[@lydfar2392]

This good news for Studio One and Cubase users... Pro Tools, not so much... Unfortunately.

[@curly_]

im not the biggest ALps faders fan ,... but its a great idea , we will see

[@JoshRichmanDesign]

Midi output?

[@st0rmchild]

As far as I can tell, you cannot use it as a generic MIDI controller.

[@Beatsmith2005]

I can't but help think that it will be very clumsy to use this with huge projects

[@annekedebruyn7797]

It is. You can't move as quickly but then again, for the price it makes sense. The workflow is more that of a digital venue console instead of a recording one.

[@meshglider]

Nice but I already own the Icon Platform m+ which works great with my daws and console 1, it also has option for digital strip which costs £150 extra. I do find Softube to be expensive, I'd like to buy their ssl 9000 emu but £300 is a no no for me, I'll check them out for black Friday I use Acustica Audio's Sand (ssl4000) pre amps and bus compressors with my console 1 emu

[@XanderEwald]

Hopefully they’ll make it work as a fader controller without the need of loading the Console 1 plug-in to each channel. That would make it really clumsy.

[@henrikpetersson3463]

Dacci Pucci That's the whole point of the Console 1 eco-system. If you want a DAW controller there are better options out there.

[@SoftubeStudios]

@@henrikpetersson3463 Yep, Console 1 offers the sound and workflow of a real analog desk, combined with the convenience and flexibility of a computer-based workflow. Of course, in a bunch of DAWs there is the deeper integration - which is a very welcome but secondary advantage of the ecosystem. /Tom

[@djvoid1]

Nice :)

[@SabcatPrinting]

doing the mixing summing to emulate analogue is interesting.

[@ogasi1798]

I can see you're hardly containing yourself 😂

[@bluematrix5001]

THE BIG QUESTION: WORKS TOTALLY WITH PRO TOOLS??

[@valiantred]

@5:40 seems like "certain DAWs" probably means Pro Tools, so no visual GUI support compared the demo shown with Studio One. Until I see more hands-on videos I'm going to remain skeptical.

[@MaPa60]

Wow, a controller that can sync with your software, for 640$! Somehow they must have lost touch..

[@mandrewm1042]

Would seriously consider these products if they had scribble strips. Maybe have another add-on product of just the strips?

[@st0rmchild]

Yeah…that's the way the Icon Platform M+ works. The faders are sold separately and the display is an optional add-on. I agree…I really want to see track names as a bare minimum. It's all well and good that you can touch a fader to see which one is highlighted on your computer screen, but constantly looking up at the screen to confirm you're adjusting the right fader doesn't sound like a great workflow to me. I think I understand what they're going for - you already have a huge, much nicer display right in front of you - and that's all well and good for most of the info, but not knowing which track is which is a big usability problem.

[@officialWWM]

If you can make it work with my Soundcraft UI24 mixer, I'll take it!

[@NewLoops]

Seems there's a lot of call for hands on control then.

[@dtrelzmusic]

Is that plugins that allows you to control the daw. At the very start he had to correct the interviewer. 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@jamalmiguel]

dtrelz music very cringy

[@yobhsiFehT]

And here I was hoping it WOULD just be a DAW controller... where I wouldn't have to buy software I don't want... silly me 🙄

[@zeddicus4885]

You dont have to. Its included.

[@yobhsiFehT]

Zeddicus I do appreciate the clarification, but it still just seems really clunky to me to have software for running software for integrating a controller 🤷🏼‍♂️😕

[@SoftubeStudios]

@@yobhsiFehT Another way you can look at the Console 1 ecosystem is as a channel-strip plug-in with it's own dedicated controller. A hybrid of hardware and software that gives you both the flexibility, relatively low cost and small footprint of a computer-based workflow as well as the sound, the intuitiveness, and the tactility of an analog desk. The deeper DAW control it does provide in some major DAWs is very nice to have, but it's almost more a bonus than a key feature. /Tom

[@zeddicus4885]

@@yobhsiFehT I assure you its really cool to have a huge ecosystem of plugins at hand (including Universal Audio plugins, provided you have their DSP) that all work in one channelstrip.

[@azenkwed]

@@zeddicus4885 what if I don't want to use UAD plugins? I have enough plugins to cover all of my needs.

[@beaujaymes75]

No control for your daw...no motorized faders...nah I'm good

[@CalebMcLellan]

Beau Jaymes did you watch the whole video?

[@beaujaymes75]

@@CalebMcLellan yessir. I didn't see motorized faders

[@CalebMcLellan]

Oh they move alright...

[@beaujaymes75]

@@CalebMcLellan I'll check it again

[@beaujaymes75]

Hey you're right!!! I was not paying attention

[@Arkayem]

A controller that needs a plugin to control anything...

[@zeddicus4885]

A controller that speeds up your workflow immensely...

[@imdurc]

@@zeddicus4885 Behringer X-Touch says hello

[@zeddicus4885]

@@imdurc well not to me 😅

[@SoftubeStudios]

It's not meant to be a generic DAW-controller, another way you can look at the Console 1 ecosystem is as a hybrid software/hardware mixing platform - as a channel-strip plug-in with a dedicated and pre-mapped controller, instead of the other way around. The plug-in part of the system provides you the sound and characteristics of a number of available console emulations with the convenience of a computer-based workflow. The hardware part gives you the tactile feedback and intuitiveness of a real, analog desk. These things combined will contribute to a workflow that's much quicker, more accurate and more fluid than what you could likely achieve with just a keyboard and a mouse. The fact that there is deeper DAW-control with a bunch of DAWs is very cool, but it's almost more a bonus than a key feature. /Tom

[@MarkyGoldstein]

Why isn't it 11? It should go to 11

[@mediatechtube]

Just another controller

[@DanRodriguez1]

I will find and I will buy you

[@user-db8np1er4s]

Bullshit product. Expansive. You will have no idea which fader is for which track. No plugin control.

[@bluematrix5001]

EXPENSIVE....

[@25hourpartypeople]

The softube guys has autotune on his voice? WTF?

[@YEE941]

25hourpartypeople 🤣🤣🤣

[@simcHyt]

BUT YOU HAVE A MOUSE AND A KEYBOARD

[@bradmodd7856]

the dark ages will pass

[@officialpoa3171]

WHACK!............. None of that is even touch sensitive! and it all is still donein FLOATING POINT with C++C-- BLOATED CODE.......WHACK!

[@djvartan]

Not impressed

[@ogasi1798]

Some serious BS in this delivery, feel the harmonics bro, feel em, ooooh 10 faders, yeeeaah now you're mixin'

[@radofficial4672]

So does this have op-amps and outputs.. where do the harmonics come in?

[@ogasi1798]

@@radofficial4672 digital 1s and 0s mate

[@radofficial4672]

Why TF would he mention analogue harmonics using the sliders.. what's that about? Does he mean via Softube plugins.. and is there any AD/DA or mic pres?

[@ogasi1798]

@@radofficial4672 no, it is a digi controller, it has emulations of two old school consoles hahaaa - feel the harmonics bro, feel em

[@ogasi1798]

@@radofficial4672 i would much prefer if they were just honest instead of using hyperbolic language that is misleading to those who are not aware, it is cruel , a LIE in sales and degrades the very cool controller.