London Underground Bakerloo LIne Road Learning Vid Pt1-Elephant to Baker St

[@sebastianverney7851]

fascinating. i've travelled on this tube line hundreds if not thousands of times and never thought i'd get to see what it's like from the driver's point of view

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

All that's missing is the heat, tunnel dust and smell!

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[@ryanchow2165]

Great for tsw2

[@Aviation-Aaron]

Yeah

[@martinpilcher4395]

Great up load, intresting see what it like from drivers, view, new respect for them, technical job and hard at times, and termanology, is amazing, think bout this next time you on the tube, 👍☺

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

A lot of any train drivers job is the knowledge of not just how to do the job but what to do with the trains when they won't move (no one comes out to you sitting between stations, YOU have to get the train moving even if it's the train behind pushing you out) and what to do when the signalling system doesn't work, you de-rail for instance and foul say the Down Main out of Euston where trains stonk along at 110mph! You are paid for what you know as much as for what you do!

[@gnnascarfan2410]

2:35 The Incredibles movie poster is briefly seen on the right, which would date these videos to sometime in 2004!

[@stonehengeman]

Absolutely fascinating - I could watch these all day. 👍

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I used to watch the real thing all day.....until i could do it in my sleep!......

[@The_taurus]

Can't wait until tsw2 August 20!!!

[@Mitch-Hendren]

all Fascinating stuff . thanks for the upload 👍👍😀

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

The commentary i think gives it that little extra, as it explains the signalling and all the moves.

[@kam6866]

Thanks for uploading this! I look forward to the next parts. Nice to see the old Oxford Circus too.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thank you. I will upload the whole 3 hour vid over time. It covers the whole line right out to Harrow plus all the depot & siding moves including all the commentary on signals & line speeds ect-enjoy!

[@mr.haitian2729]

Soon to be available to drive it in TRAIN SIM WORLD 2!!!!! the full line

[@louscr8249]

LT GHOST yup can’t wait!

[@vadikturgenev5175]

Woh...tube tunnels are spooky!!

[@The_taurus]

How??

[@suspiciouswatermelon7639]

Monsters live in there.

[@Richardsrailway]

Can’t beat the pipe !

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Oh joy! Hot, dirty and smelly!!!! And all the tunnel dust you can eat...........

[@Richardsrailway]

Soi Buakhao 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Bottymonster]

Awesome footage

[@irelandbloke]

Good video 👍🏻

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Thank you......

[@irelandbloke]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus You're welcome :)

[@srysyrfzursysry]

2:29 cant lie the man scared me 😂

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I didn't see a man at 2.29?.....

[@srysyrfzursysry]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus was actually at 3.00

[@QuarioQuario54321]

In Chicago there are signs literally telling the driver what to do

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

There are various signs and odd instructions aboutthe place but not many 'direct' instructions of how to do the job, that has already been taught.

[@daveb0789]

Very interesting. Do drivers need to learn signal and point numbers ?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

You don't really need to know the point numbers but it is hand to have an indea of certain signal numbers and cabin codes (BS was the Elephant, BP was Piccadilly back in the 80s)

[@noahhuckleby6517]

Are you supposed to enter the stations at the current speed or 25mph when possible?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

There is no set speed to enter a station, as long as you can stop before you run out of platform! You take into account any gradients as well as how the good the brakes work on any particular unit!

[@MrJw360]

What year was this?

[@EM-yk1dw]

Nice one Soi. Shame you haven’t got Watford LMR

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It does show as far as Harrow Wealdstone though. The whole disc is 3h13 min long so i am uploading it in parts until it has been all done.

[@ssbohio]

So, what would happen if a driver proceeded whilst Bravo Mike 8 showed a junction indicator @ 12:55? Where would the train end up that it wasn't supposed to be? What trains could take that routing?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It takes you to the Jubilee Line, Northbound. It was the link line constructed in the 1930s so the Bakerloo could take over the Stanmore line from the Metropolitan. It stayed in regular use until May 1979 when the Jubilee opened. This is now the only Underground connection to the Bakerloo Line (it does of course connection with National Rail at Queens Park) used for stock moves and engineering trains.

[@s3bbyg457]

What was the flash just before passing Alpha 9002 around the 8:00 mark, it looked as if it seemed to dim the lights for a good ten seconds.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

That was the extra light they used to brighten up the tunnels with going out, nothing to do with the train itself!

[@andyengland4403]

When you leave the platform what are the sky blue markers for on the left numbered 1to 7?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

They are car markers. If the emergency alarm goes off as you leave the station, if you can stop before the 7 car marker, then part of the train is still in the station. If not, continue to the next station to sort things out rather than stop in the tunnel.

[@milkandduckrailway323]

how are the points named? which bit is alpha, bravo etc

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

All points are numbered on a line. A cross over from one line to another has two ends to it, A and B (in the phonetic alpabet, Alpha and Bravo), if there is a problem with them the part that isn't working, it can be narrowed down before the engineers get there to fix it, so saving time. Single lead points (say, into a siding) will only have one end to them (Alpha).....

[@milkandduckrailway323]

Thanks.

[@Captainpubwatch]

A & B is on crossovers as they have the same points lever but two ends. A is the closest end to the signal cabin/interlocking machine room : )

[@europeantransporttv212]

How did you get to do this? You are so lucky!

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

It is a London Underground road learning video issued to drivers. It came from a friend of mine, i used to work on this line so know it rather too well!!!

[@europeantransporttv212]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Great! You are great and have great footage! Your friends give you good footage too!

[@milkandduckrailway323]

I seem to be blind I can't see the signals in the tunnels the guy mentions lol....

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

They are all there, hiding in the gloom! Driving deep level tubes can affect your eyesight over time, gloomy tunnels and artificial lighting aren't good!

[@milkandduckrailway323]

The ones I do see seem to show no aspect at all, I guess it might be due to that bright light they are shining.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@milkandduckrailway323 Yes, at some stations you can see reflected in the platform mirror a bright light they are shining to light up the tunnel to illuminate it more than the headlights do.

[@ramblingrob4693]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Hardly see the Signals so dim, like they still the original ones from the war?

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

what is a multi-spadded signal?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

A signal that has been passed at danger more than once

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@lofcwomen-com Or they're half asleep (shift work can play havoc with your body clock!), they thought it would clear, the brakes were not as good as they hoped, lots of things can cause a spad, having been a driver on the tubes & mainline i know only too well how easy it can happen!

[@krozjr5009]

Basically, think of a SPAD as the train equivalent of passing a red at an intersection. It’s dangerous and could get you into trouble. A multi-spaded signal is one that has a past history of being a ‘S’ignal ‘P’assed ‘A’t ‘D’anger (red).

[@milkandduckrailway323]

using "SPADed" as a verb

[@permiantheropod5163]

When was this filmed?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Viewers have dated it to 2004 from the film posters on the station walls....

[@najhydro]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus thats why they show incredibles 1 as a poster in lambeth north

[@s125ish]

When does the footage date from ?

[@PeteS_1994]

Idk, but I'm imagining late 90's, early 2000's.I may be wrong, but I'm imagining between 99-2001. Notice, the Yellow pages ad on the journey planner at 2:37. Search tube map posters 1999. The danger signs at the ends of platforms also. I think these are still in use but the modern ones have thinner signs. The train is refurbished as 2:48 shows but has the old train number display on it's window. Also Oxford Circus looks better.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I also don't know, as the person who gave me this DVD can't remember when it was issued to him! The dates Pete S. suggest's tie in with when the driver concerned was working on this line so all you eagle eyed views can try and spot any clues that will give away the date. The next bit i upload will cover Baker Street to Queens Park so there will be a bit more to trawl through-happy viewing!

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus The above ground section will probably be the best indicator, seeing as the aboveground section is entirely shared now with London Overground.

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 No LO, it's Silverlink Metro and 313 units! Am away from home for a couple of weeks but will get the Queens Park to Stonebridge section up next.

[@XSeDanX]

Saw a Bridget Jones: The Edge Of Reason poster so the footage is most likely from late 2004/early 2005

[@yaboitntc784]

Yup

[@parkandrideme]

As an ex B.R man ..Why are your signals so close together

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

Basic signalling rules are the same, the more signals you have the closer the trains run together and so you can run a better headway service. The Barking-Gospel Oak line has had more signals added in order to improve the headway. Plus the Bakerloo still has some older LT signalling where there are more home signals on approach to stations, some of which are speed controlled, if a train is ahead and you slow down, the first one or two will clear to get you closer so again improving the headways. The Southern has a lot of signalling as you get closer to Waterloo as did the old Great Eastern lines to Gidea Park, again for the same reasons, to get more trains running.

[@parkandrideme]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I understand that .But they look so close you couldn't get a train between them . Thanks anyway

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@parkandrideme They sound like the home signals leading up to a station. As the train in the platform moves off the first home signal clears allowing you to start moving forward, as the departing train moves further away so more home signals clear and you can keep moving if you have slowed your train down enough. If there was only one home signal you would have to wait far outside the platform until the train in front had totally cleared the platform before you could move forward. I hope this makes sense, diagrams help but we have only the written word here.....

[@warweezil2802]

Soi Buakhao sounds about right from what I remember.... multiple homes and sometimes even a “platform policeman” to maximise line capacity, maybe while this lockdown is on I will dig out the ring binder that’s in my attic with all the written course work from Guard and Motors and refresh my memory something at the back of my mind is ringing a bell about suffix letters on multiple home signals... but it’s been over 30 years.... could still drive a 72 tho 😁 sound of the driver working the TBC and those bloody tones from train radio brought back a lot of memories.... along with that bloody noisy rheo brake.

[@acnhsasha3085]

What Day what Month and what Year is this filmed?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

2004 is the best i can do!.....

[@The_taurus]

Can you do one from Harrow to elephant pls

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

see my playlist here, it has that run in four parts...kzbin.info/aero/PLRjJ3alLpN5yaiXySNYKVEYgzssDOR61v

[@ramblingrob4693]

I hate the old small Bakerloo stock like a WW2 shelter you had in the garden, nohang on they had more headroom

[@clementpoon120]

it was a lot more boring in tsw2 because there arent any "bombom" sounds

[@GeneralHawk505]

Railjoint gaps?

[@danlastname9002]

What's that over the first 27 crossover at BS.30?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

That's the cross-over just outside the Elephant. Trains can arrive and depart to & from any of the two Bakerloo platforms.

[@danlastname9002]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus What about the truss suspended above the crossover? Is that just a conduit carrier for the wall-mounted cables?

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@danlastname9002 I have no idea, it wasn't there back in the 1980s when i worked on this line.....

[@danlastname9002]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus How bizarre! The Tube's infrastructure has always fascinated me

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@danlastname9002 There are lots of little nooks & crannies below ground, little cross passages & such like, all hidden away from public gaze. On stations there are various old, unused passages and even platforms in places, and like you it fascinates me as well!

[@patpaugan2687]

You don't have this lights in TSW2

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

In order to film this training vid they did shine extra lighting out the front. It's a lot darker in real life although the72s had bright headlights compared to the 2 dim 60 watt bulbs on a 59 stock!

[@patpaugan2687]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus So in real they never know if there is an obstacle on the tracks?🙄

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@patpaugan2687 Unless it's very large, you may just spot it before you hit it! In the open during daylight you can see further but not at night.....

[@murphymary1015]

Good chance dovetail watched this?

[@horizelux2212]

most probably!

[@robertdefoe2396]

@@horizelux2212 Doubt it, they never get their speed zones correct.

[@horizelux2212]

@@robertdefoe2396 Apparently it's due to the way Tsw2 has "been coded". That's why they can't get the speed changes correctly, apparently.

[@robertdefoe2396]

@@horizelux2212 Played about with the editor in train simulator, the other simulator they made, and I have managed to set speed limits correctly. They just need to overlap their speed zones.

[@RedArrow73]

Embankulentment.