Solax Triple Power Battery Storage Installation

DISASTER! 😩 Installing a home battery the WRONG way up?!
Battery storage systems can take up a lot of space, so creating a plan beforehand can save lots of time and money! However, when your planned design isn't even possible, despite being told it would work, a complete disaster can be on the table. What looked like a pretty straight forward Zappi EV charger and battery installation may have Jordan & Lee working until all hours! 😬
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[@gadgetman36]

Jordan I love where you showed us how to mark a line along a board and Lee said it was as straight as a country road! 😂 A set square or combination square is good for this.

[@JamesMorris-os7kb]

I’ve installed a lot of sungrow hybrids with dc coupled HV modular batteries. Battery comes in 3.2kwh modules. Minimum system size is 9.6kwh all the way up to 25.6kwh. Install is a one man job because the battery modules are so light. If a battery module becomes faulty, we can warranty that module while the battery system continues to operate at a slightly lower capacity. Commissioning is super easy too. Simplest I’ve ever done. Very good app too. Very good price point too and much better than Solax in my opinion. I’m in Australia though so not sure if they’re available in the uk. 9.6kwh model number: SBR097 5kva hybrid inverter: SH5.ORS

[@scotspie501douglas7]

fantastic content and love all the tools you use

[@xylo66]

Nice one lads ! ...not only do we need dozens of various tools; but what gets me as a sparkie is the amount of fixings and bits and bobs we have to cater for ! Compared to other trades; customers don't fully realize how much stock of fixings and accessories overall we have to carry and cater for !

[@Lewdacris916]

LOL yeah im a commercial installer for security systems, when im doing metallic pipe ive got half my tools and organizers in the store and i still make trips to the truck

[@ChrizRockster]

When you closed the breaker at 25:18 and you said "Boom!" I was thinkin yeah with that manual it could go at any time! 😂😂

[@johnengland999]

Check with Solax and make sure you have the latest firmware for the battery and inverter as there a known issue with the battery sticking at 98% also the leads between master to the slave are about 50cm

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

I've notice a lot of you electricians and plumbers knock in the plugs flush to the surface.... I would like to point out that you should get a long enough screw and knock the plug into the actual wall past the plaster thickness. The plaster has next to no strength. I have had to take off and refix so many radiators because they have dropped off the wall..... What next going round refixing battery packs that have fell off the wall.

[@VeX00786]

Not forgetting satellite dishes that go on cladding.

[@SeanyyBoy_]

As I found out today.. (fixing others mistakes).. the battery leads don't come mc4d at both ends as this allows you to run cables through glands and trunking. I had to remove the mc4s to reroute the cables

[@rugbygirlsdadg]

The advantage of having cables and connectors separately is that if the supplied cables aren't long enough, you can supply your own. There's nothing in this video about configuration of the Zappi for the battery to prevent the charger draining the battery. Is that an oversight or is that covered elsewhere?

[@mykehoole5787]

Even before you mounted the inverter, I was wondering if the washing machine was going to be an issue. The house owner is not going to be happy when the washer needs to be worked on or repaired. Is the proximity of the washer discharge hose to the third battery a danger? Some people like to stack a tumble drier above the washer, this would now not be possible. Early in the video, you used the quote, measure twice, cut once, surely this also apples to planning and layout (portrait/landscape, headroom, access, maintainability, future proofing. I hope you keep a “lessons learned” spreadsheet so these issues are not repeated because at the end of the day, it is the customer who will have to live with the system you leave them with.

[@escsltd4115]

Great video as always, but have you considered the length of battery interlink cables for the Slave batteries (when they arrive) as these cannot be extended and are designed for side by side or one in front of the other mounting on the Solax system.

[@bramcoteelectrical1088]

Solax are pain in ass

[@philipsmith0752]

looking at the washing machine on the back wall is there room to move it out when it needs to be replaced ?

[@electricaloneonone]

Nice work team! Keep it up 😊

[@Geeraffe]

another install done well. I think If you want to swap the cold UK winter for Tahiti you would probably be unhappy its too hot in the tropics to work. Cheers from Malaysia. 👍

[@TeamSimpsonRacing]

As per my comment on your last video regarding backup power and the supply earth can't be relied on, did you install an earth rod on this job?

[@sparkie4534]

Great showing of an electrical company as always... highs ,lows, as an electrician .. you show to others .. what we do in the industry.. But never like the bashing of other electricians on the channel ,which happens quite abit When Jordan shows how rough, he marked out a simple line ....and hes supposed to be the boss ,so starts from the top..!!! a straight edge ,tape measure,pencil.. job done !!! You made it look extremely hard ..when its simple Then the no protection(dust sheets) for the tiled floor ,and expensive equipment Grinding on the tiles .that hurt us all to see !!!. thats 101 even for an apprentice to complete ,before start of job .. didnt see any floor protection for any areas inside .. carpets etcs hot bits of bricks,hot plastics etc ..going on ,i presume nice carpets Would like to see a video ,when 2nd battery is installed underneath the first one, just how the washing machine will slide out ,if all batterys,are the same size .... and to see how easy its going to be for them to do the washing .. im sure after the first load ,they will be swearing !!!! As youve just shown us , we are all human .. and sometimes preach .. what you dont do yourself ... What i see ,is a good company ,good employees,who takes pride in there work ...but you make mistakes ,or slack on things at times ..like any good electrical company in the country ,from what ive seen in quite a few videos now Maybe ask your sponsors, to give you floor protection,at the very least ..

[@ianmenai]

How on earth are the house owners going to remove the washing machine when it fails?

[@gordonwoodhead5912]

I was wondering that

[@nickbea3443]

No room in garage or loft? it's pretty intrusive in that tiny room. Another 2 batteries still to go in...

[@artisanelectrics]

We measured and the washing machine will slide out just fine

[@ianmenai]

That’s a relief! Re the batteries and portrait and landscape, doesn’t the bracket on the battery/BMS unbolt and mount 90° to accommodate landscape mounting?

[@roberwt]

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. The back wall seemed like a more logical place (space permitting).

[@adamcole4808]

Hello from a Brit in Tahiti, and I get paid to be here for work! Sorry.... Love the videos!

[@james36515]

Excellent Video. I have just accepted a quote for Solar (Trina Panels) with Solax inverter and battery for my home (not a big house no not a 4Kwh system from EGG. Had heard some mixed things about Solax over SolarEdge (who need optimisers on each panel costing £3000 more) and that its best to keep to one EcoSystems (hence why they quoted with all Solax. Another Company Quoted with Givenergy Inverter and Batteries but not seen much about them, but they wanted more ££ for it. The system I have been quoted for is 2.6kwh over a 4, as my usage estimation is around 2200kwh a year. So 4Kwh is overkill.

[@pmrose18]

Ha spent 25 yrs decorating retired in the tropics at 46, saved every penny.........do the same, and before the modern OTT safety wolrd where even coffee has to have a HOT warning on it.

[@RoyalBaboon247]

Didnt know there was so many people that cared about washing machines lol. Bless our washing machings.

[@Azaakiel20]

In uk theres barely any sunshine, is this any useful? Considering the cost?

[@peterellis6417]

Will you guys do a revisit video for the slave (secondary battery)

[@markdraycott2868]

I’m a plasterer and I have at least 2k of tools not just a trowel and bucket thank you

[@craigchamberlain]

I’m not even a plasterer but did some rendering of garden walls last summer and even I ended up buying a powerful impact drill which doubles as a paddle mixer, the mixing paddle itself, a couple of buckets, a set of trowels and of course the all important sponge! ;-) I imagine a pro would also need things like stilts and probably umpteen other things I’m not aware of. When Jordan made that comment I had a feeling we might hear from a plasterer or two!

[@BillsCountrysideAdventures]

Mr quality, are the best mate!

[@barrieshepherd7694]

That backing board is an eyesore and, if the main wall is solid, seems unnecessary.

[@DamianDoi]

so if you see this pls explain..if i only have 1 battery should the dip switch set to 1 or 0 ??

[@student_farATC]

Jordan you could just modify the mounting brackets to be able to stack the batteries landscape. or instead you could mount said brackets vertically so you can moun the batteries landscape (like you wanted too) versus portrait (how you have too).

[@cemtex]

Love the videos, been watching back.over a few of them, only thing that confuses me on this install is you have a power supply from the consumer unit to the inverter to charge the batteries but now power coming back out of the unit to power anything, I'm planning on doing a basic battery backup.unit in my flat like this and just trying to get my head round it all.

[@robupham5632]

It's the same cable... power flows one way to charge, the other way to discharge.

[@lukamartiro]

Love the videos Jordan

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks Luke!

[@georgewilliams8228]

Alternatives to master and slave; controller/coordinator and expansion/extension. I would avoid primary and secondary as it implies equivalence and/or redundancy.

[@GB-Justin]

Got same inverter only mines a 7.5kW and 2 batteries and they are in the garage floor mounted to the wall. They're heavy beasts and you would not want them falling off the wall at any point. @Artisan Electrics Do you cover Birmingham area by any chance? Looking for a consumer unit upgrade to 18th Edition, with 100amp fuse. (Currently set at 80amps and DNO will update their fuse once this is done.)

[@NickFoster]

Tahiti. It's a magical place ;)

[@trisknight9430]

How did you end up mounting all the batteries

[@uk-justin]

I want to add an extra 5.8kWh battery and balance them to my 5kW solax system, can I do this myself or is it notifiable?

[@user-di5pc6xq1e]

Can these be installed outside as new builds the consumer units are outside

[@therealxunil2]

I would go to where you are for winter. Because it's better than were i am.

[@ozanturunc83]

What’s the link for the side eye shields on your glasses mate, thank you 😁

[@paulee56]

I was wondering where you are going to install the extra battery pack, couldnt install it in front of the existing, as leads are too short to get the 300mm spacing between packs , and cable input and output are opposite sides, only allowing for side by side installs. Was a real dilema for me to figure it out.

[@kinross24]

You might have misinterpreted the support teams advice on battery mounting. They would’ve meant you can align the batteries side by side in a landscape design and also on top of each other, in a portrait design!

[@MotoJohn]

12:18 went through me like nails on a chalkboard 😬 interesting watch as always though chaps!

[@MrCPHunt]

Oh F***,you gone greyer than me. LOL. i am not an electrician, but understand the concepts. Love your vids.

[@markhughes2155]

Cable from the AC isolator looks undersized? I'm sure the 5kw inverter comes with 10mm brown ferrules? What size RCBO did you use. Also you've no side plates installed on the Master battery and you're governed by a certain length on the slave battery DC cables connections so I don't think they're going to reach looking at your installation layout. Definitely check the firmware on commissioning as well. Most need updating.

[@kinross24]

Or why not mount them outside, below and next to the Zappi abd meter box?

[@OraEtLabora0]

🤔2:14 always thought the unpacking technique is to leave top foam in, but open cardboard ears and flip box upside-down, then just slide box up and you get the goods out effortlessly and with foam around. but i don't really know, i'm not labourer... 🤷‍♂

[@pauljohnson4590]

silly question, but is there space to replace the washing machine when it dies?

[@MadMatty72]

Why not run cable through the roof cavity?

[@black.phoenix.]

Jordan, there isn't any mention in the manual that the batteries support landscape mounting. Next time do what I normally do, cut the fluf of the sellers pitch and get the manual to check for yourself. If something is provisioned it will be in the installation manual. It will save you a ton of headaches...

[@nutter-world]

The moment of truth... Zappy zappee make me happy 😁

[@cantbelieveimhere2935]

That neck light is the silliest thing iv ever seen, no doubt all the insta sparkies will be lapping it up though!

[@christurner6430]

Let's see if it is still being worn in a couple of weeks' time!

[@blower1]

Need a nice bit of plywood behind that Zappi 😉

[@osprey211]

Neutrik Ethercon is a cool rj45 connector, it’s ip rating wouldn’t be as good though.

[@UKIP]

In a system like that, is there any lower limit that the batteries shouldn't be discharged below i.e. 50% to prolong battery life? This becomes more important if you want to power the house during the day from batteries charged off-peak.

[@blower1]

For LifePo4 based batteries - which most are nowadays, then you don't want to go below 10% and you also don't want to charge above 90%.

[@szaki95]

That crimping tool is a generic chinese one, everybody sells them not just Mr Quality :D If you look closer the type is HSC8 6-4A. I got the same one just with an orange handle.

[@moederkoeklol134]

You should try FoxESS installation easy setup.

[@AndyM...]

Surprised to see MC4 connectors for high current connections, also the battery conductors look a tad on the small side...what's the rated output of the battery/inverter system ?

[@Umski]

Agree those battery wires look suspiciously thin - as you say MC4 are usually high voltage with low-medium current - I was supplied 6AWG for my Solis AC inverter and the Pylontech batteries are supplied with 4AWG which are both roughly around 13-20mm2 and good for around 100A even though the inverter only takes 3kW or 60A max in either direction but it's a 48V battery - I think the Solax uses a higher voltage on the DC side hence allowing for thinner cables more akin to a lower voltage PV string...which kind of makes sense as ideally the DC voltage would be close to the peak to peak of the AC output of around 350-400V as it is for the MPPT side of a string inverter...

[@AndyM...]

@@Umski Just did a bit more research on the batteries, they look like nominal 100V output, so I guess double the output/half the cable size to a normal 48V system, still not sold on the MC4s and cable sizes, but hopefully they've done all the testing.....

[@prometheus4130]

battery pack voltage is around 130vdc each

[@s3rra96]

Hi Jordan, I think that you should try to use Fronius inverter and BYD battery

[@chrisw4578]

I have this combination going in to my house on 5 December. I sure my installer could use someone in the roof crawl spaces. Not quite Tahiti, but Brisbane would definitely warm you up some!

[@simonabbott7323]

10:27 Potentially drilling in a cable zone there!!

[@alidavemason4417]

Once the second battery is installed the customer will have problems replacing the washing machine when it packs up.

[@artisanelectrics]

It will slide out just fine we measured it

[@andysims4906]

I’m sure the washing machine will out live the battery and probably the whole system

[@JohnR31415]

Six screws to access the isolator?!?

[@elminster8149]

I'd move to Kiribati - possibly permanently, or until it floods.

[@PsiQ]

i hate those "hidden" mounting brackets. yeah it looks nice once its there, but if they just made two (adjustable for level) holes/hangers left and right, you mark+make the holes with the hopefully included paper drilling template in the packaging, put the hooks in and be done. same for the small ethernet switches (netgear, tplink, dlink...) . if they just put the holes on the sides (or through hole, there is plenty space in the case!) it would be a tiny bit larger, but you could just screw them directly onto the board / wall and they are fixed. no, you need to drill holes for hidden screws in the back, and fumble around till the screws are in the holes and kinda clamp a bit but not too much, no way to adjust for level. and the next nucklehead throws the thing off the wall when pluggin in cables (because its not fixed, just hooked) and doesn't get it back on properly.

[@FarmerJacob837]

dayummm

[@mikegawan6395]

How come a battery isolator wasn’t fitted in between the battery and the inverter? I know Solax have one within the unit but it’s not really accessible for isolation?

[@mikegawan6395]

And manufacturers instructions show an isolator external to the battery before the inverter

[@hks-lion]

The last Artisan battery video didn’t show an isolator either?

[@mikegawan6395]

I’ve only just seen this one but manufacturers instructions show an isolator present before battery?

[@hks-lion]

On the instructions I’m reading I don’t see an isolator between battery and inverter

[@mikegawan6395]

MCS guides also state it requires an isolator before the battery? We have had to source battery isolators from all over the country for our own installs, I was wondering whether there was a reason it wasn’t installed?

[@HYUKLDER1]

Why wasn't the EV charger cable passed straight through the external wall and brought up the wall internally? Would have look much neater. 🙂

[@artisanelectrics]

Lots of stuff in the way inside

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

Looks like the owner didn’t want to pay out to chase the cable in or run it above a ceiling. Not sure you even could with a cable that thick without chiselling into the bricks a bit.

[@Beariam24]

Don’t show those step ladders!! Now everyone is going to get some and I won’t look cool anymore 😢😂

[@artisanelectrics]

What drink are you enjoying Artisan Sunday with? 🍹

[@randomcamerajunk6977]

Pork pie and a glass of bishops finger. What about you?

[@artisanelectrics]

@@randomcamerajunk6977 Noice

[@gadgetman36]

A Baileys irish cream latte, as well as mulled wine.

[@seanoliver4531]

Can’t help but notice but is the customer going to be able to get there washing machine in and out should they want to move or replace it lol 😂 great job as always just thought I’d ask. 😎

[@MrCarnivoure]

I'd go to Thailand for winter, lol

[@JimWhitaker]

I'd love to see the economic case for these installations. Currently I'm sceptical.

[@mickbitchum4664]

Givenergy AC coupled system is dead easy to commission, give it a try

[@daveedee3626]

Just because something "can" be mounted landscape doesn't mean it comes with a bracket that enables that. I'm sure with the correct bracket those could be mounted landscape.

[@ianandrew7010]

Watch Artisan in 5yrs you'll all be 3 Stone heavier eating all those Cakes 😋

[@matthewstevens7486]

For someone who says you cant say sl*ves........goes on to say it several times thereafter😂😂

[@oninbridders]

Master and Slave no longer PC. I shall consider the emotions of my electronics in future.

[@stuartajc8141]

Master and Puppet is my favourite replacement

[@lehoff]

I hadn't even heard of it not being PC! I can't keep up with what is and isn't offensive these days....

[@byardelectrical]

Ay up where's the discount code for Mr Quality then chaps 🤣🤣🤣

[@artisanelectrics]

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[@jovetj]

Wouldn't it have looked a lot nicer to run the cable for the external charger through the wall directly behind it?

[@Dragothedragon1846]

hi i want to be an electritian do you have any advice

[@artisanelectrics]

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[@williammartinculleton5875]

Interesting video once again. Re the “ new” unilite gadget, I often wonder how many companies get rich dreaming up “ must have” gadgets, tools, testers etc, bit like the boys and girls of the IET, they don’t want to leave their comfortable office suites while electricians are grafting in attics etc,the IET will continue dreaming up regs just to keep themselves in work ? 😂😂😂

[@tedlahm5740]

Large house, small laundry room?

[@OraEtLabora0]

27:27 🙉

[@Sebby_75]

Hmmm... Will be a bit tight sliding out that washer...

[@IntelestateNetwork]

OK Jordan, Saying Hello again. I do enjoy your video's but have been really busy here in the US, so I have not been watching as many. Sorry! Larry

[@MultiOutdoorman]

so, whats the disaster ?

[@ianandrew7010]

Jordan can I please pick your Brains, I've got the same Solax X1-Fit inverter Solax 5kw master battery and 1, 5kw slave battery, the Solax is connected to my Solis inverter for PV my issues with the Solax App has it doesn't show PV Generation my question is can I fit a CT Clamp from the Solax to the Solis inverter so that PV Generation shows up on the App please, any advice would be appreciated 🙏

[@rugbygirlsdadg]

Interesting. I'm just about to have two 5.8kWh Solax batteries and the same AC charger with built-in EPS fitted. I already have two 5kW Solis string inverters, a Zappi and Eddi fitted.

[@wajopek2679]

Why an inverter based system? Surely a Puredrive AC battery would just fit on the wall and your done. Am I missing something?

[@Umski]

The marketing team have done well there calling it an AC battery - the white box still has an AC inverter and DC cells inside it 🤣

[@wajopek2679]

@@Umski My bad. I should have said AC coupled. All batteries are of course DC but what I really meant to say was why have an external inverter when you can have a neater solution that is just a narrow box on the wall.

[@Umski]

@@wajopek2679 sorry, fair point, I think if the customer wants a 'fit and forget' solution it makes sense but a lot of 'all in ones' are not quite so modular as they cater for a standard capacity e.g. 5/10/15kWh etc or aren't so flexible compared to having a standalone inverter and separate batteries to configure depending on circumstances - being modular it also means if one part (or pack) fails then it can be replaced more easily without the whole thing having to be pulled apart or replaced. That said the Solax uses HV DC packs so although modular you're stuck with that brand...

[@Horsecockbadger]

Do u do hvacr aswel?

[@MrCPHunt]

You are a so likeable toff

[@kevinmatthews2620]

schoolboy error on the zappi 2 holes drilled into the mortar despite there being room to raise above the mortar line, duh

[@gsdevme]

They don’t provide them pre terminated because you should have a DC fuse in circuit really, so you’d put lugs on and split the cable to have the DC fuse in to ensure the battery is fused from the inverter.

[@blower1]

Not necessary if the battery has a built in breaker - which this one does.

[@gsdevme]

@@blower1 not always true. Often these breakers are for single batteries whereas on systems you can chain you’d want the whole circuit to have a 120amp breaker for example. The capacitors also mean you can turn the breakers off and still get a shock (see the manual) Surprising Jordan didn’t spot it, it’s in the solax manual. > There should be a nonpolarized DC breaker to make sure battery can be securely disconnected with inverter when required.

[@blower1]

@@gsdevme Breakers are designed to protect the cabling and battery from shorts - if every battery has a breaker you don't need an external one....what you are talking about is an isolator - which may or may not be needed depending if it is recommended by the manufacturer. In this case it may be needed - i've not read the solax manual.

[@gsdevme]

@@blower1 yeah it’s recommended.

[@Azaakiel20]

Next time tell the seller of the system, that you want to place is this side up or down, and if it can be mounted like that.

[@andrewkettrick2850]

add electrical great woke video as allways

[@davidmaskell8502]

Can the owner get the washing machine out????

[@RoyalBaboon247]

We need so many tools, knowledge, patience, education, licences, tickets, insurance, common sense, new regs weekly, eye to detail, reading, writing and mathematicians. Risk our lifes, deal with new technolagy, IT skills, how to smile under stress, work shit hours and keep everyone else happy, especially family and friends that think cables are invisabile and any socket or light takes 5 mins.... its easy lol. Praise the lord for Electricians, Amen. We will / are running the world..... no electricain no phones. No electrician no new electric car. No electrician No - Artisian videos. The world ends. SIMPLE.

[@MrPWalden]

Knipex like knife not like nip. 👍

[@djoneselec5100]

“We have a master and a slave but that’s not politically correct” ….”anyway we have a master and a slave…😂

[@Ed.R]

It's important to keep these names so as the remember history so we don't repeat it.

[@xXLegendXx70]

Dont you drink cofee in britain?

[@artisanelectrics]

I LOVE Coffee

[@mikaraussi8200]

It says in the instructions to keep the mount for the battery less than 1m from the floor. YOU'RE DOING IT AGAINST THE INSTRUCTIONS AND IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG!!!

[@powerupminion]

Fair warning before reading below: I have an uninhibited sense of humor and I can come off quite rough to snowflakes. If you are one, DON'T READ ON!!! You have been warned, and therefor have no excuse to get mad. - - - I'm sitting here laughing about slaves and screaming at my monitor: "They have to be shipped first!!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@antoniodossantos8092]

go to dubai nice and hot

[@kevincooke3882]

We’ll if you don’t like master and slave, try master and servant instead.

[@Ed.R]

In electronics it's becoming computer and peripheral. I believe in keeping the old names so as to remember history so we don't repeat it.

[@Umski]

Prefer pimp and ho