Sold My Gas Yamaha TW200 Motorcycle for an Electric 2WD UBCO

[@SilverCymbal]

Hope you guys enjoyed some of the scenery - I normally wear a helmet but for the video left it off for ease of filming *NH has NO helmet law for adults* but I still recommend wearing one. - Take one for a ride at a dealer: www.ubco.com - They also ship direct - I earn NO commissions on sales

[@L0st-n0found]

Well title says no licence and just started watching but skipped to where 1:47 you say NEED LICENCE So w t f? To clarify I was going to point out it was absolutely BS that it doesn't require a liscence If it's not registerable as a moped/motorcycle then it can't be ridden in public anywhere in USA save possibly a couple states. If it can be registered (seems it can?) then it can be ridden ONLY with a licence on public roads with min speed limits it fits in and nowhere else (it's not a bike can't be ridden in bike lanes, trails, sidewalks anywhere else.)

[@Artificial.Unintelligence]

The fact that this thing does not have like fold out solar panels on it and only about 30mi range is a bummer for people actually put doing trails or anything like that. Go to a park and it should be charging while you hang out.

[@fidicengineer-001d.mcelear8]

Helmets are a MUST, myself I went through the back window of an SUV, (very close call) at 40kmh, result, 16 stitches to my forehead, akin to a scalp wound was so blessed, ALWAYS wear a HELMET, regardless.

[@ryansleeper1077]

Came here just to say, were you at Campton Bog pond there at the end??

[@ryansleeper1077]

@@L0st-n0foundyou don't need a motorcycle license. You need a regular driver's license. Just like a scooter. You don't need a motorcycle license for those, just a regular driver's license.

[@onionhead5780]

Years ago I bought a product that was newly imported into the United States and when a part got damaged I couldn’t get a replacement. A simple repair became unrepairable due to lack of availability of replacement parts. Since then I learned to first check on availability of parts when purchasing a new item like this in case a repair is needed. Just food for thought. 👍

[@TinekaJasonPalmer]

Plenty of dealers state side for these

[@kenon6968]

I really like the TW but they never legally imported it here into this country so the handful that are around are super expensive. There was a Chinese copy that came out not even all that long ago and it's completely impossible to find a screw for them

[@udojahn8538]

Got this problem to repair my special ebike electric and finally changed the whole electric to local availabe standards.

[@rodduncan1183]

It was actually designed for farmers as a alternative to off road bikes or horses hence the 2 wheel drive. The battery pack is mounted as low as possible to improve stability, you can get the usual accessories like panniers & a surfboard rack to name a few. Kiwi Rod

[@flyingsword135]

More adds on, more weight = even less range

[@rodduncan1183]

Unless you live in New Zealand you wouldn't be aware that you can get a surfboard holder & a lot of us kiwis get a surfboard holder Kiwi Rod

[@comicsgod53]

Amity Rod back at ya.

[@topotone]

Very cool. I had a TW for many years, but I love my ebike for its quiet operation, as well. No oil changes, no petrol, no need for earplugs and no competing on the highway with cars. I’ve been curious about the UBCO, so it’s great to see your review, but it sure could use a better name. The 2WD Kiwi

[@SilverCymbal]

I like that, UBCO is kind of a painful word but its supposed to stand or Utility Bike COmpany but I still dont love it. The T Dubs are lgendary but even mine couldn't get up a hill that this bike can. UI had no room for a runnign start and its crazy steep. Not saying that someone couldn;t figure it out, but the UBCO just goes. The curb jumping part is surprisinghep helpful too with he front wheel pulling.I had them both for a while, and it gets painful waiting for the gas bike to warm up and I always felt bad for the first few miles and went slow. With the UBCO I use it to get the mail 1/2 mile and never think twice. But I also went 25 miles away to a campground and had a bast just cruising around. Fun machine for sure, I don't hunt but a lot of bowhunters supposedly love this too for the silence in the woods

[@moregrouchy]

@@SilverCymbal I heard it pronounced youBEEco here in the East, anyone else hear that?

[@factionfx]

Definitely cool. Wouldn't mind having both. But if I had only one I'd rather have a TW200 with a 4 gallon tank that takes 2 minutes to refuel and will virtually last forever.

[@johanslabbert2869]

The Yamaha TW200 is a legendary motorcycle. Incidentally, it’s been called the 2 wheel Jeep by many. This Upco looks like a great product. Well thought out, the 2WD is a boon. Design appears rugged. The silent running is a huge advantage in the wild. In the right application this will fill a niche and prove to be very useful. Pity it will likely be hamstrung by the same issues facing other electric motorcycles, namely range, charging speed and price. All a product of our current state of battery technology. If that ever gets solved, there will remain very few reasons to buy internal combustion bikes.

[@SilverCymbal]

All great points. The TW is a legend for sure but the 2WD is amazing when you are climbing slowly especially and the gear racks are a huge positive

[@roginutah]

Yep. You have a 20-30-minute range. Then you need to head back and park it for hours. And that's IF you started with a full battery.

[@timmatheny-lo9ze]

Had the first year TW 200 electric and kick start. Plan was to put street tires and different sprockets for more street riding. But life got in the way. The Asian bike’s are more retro and have kick start, and more utilitarian.

[@inavandownbytheriver]

I have an UBCO 2x2 SE that a buddy gave me this year and I now have over 1000 miles on it riding mainly city streets. It's the black and green "city/commuter" version, it's governed at 31mph, and is perfect anywhere that you would normally use a 50cc scooter. The reason he gifted it to me was because he found-out that it didn't go fast enough on his local streets to safely get out of his neighborhood. That's also the main issue that I have with it. I'm limited to slower speed (35mph or less) streets or temporarily jumping onto the higher speed roads to get anywhere. It's not fun going 31mph and seeing big trucks coming-up on me at 60mph. However, it's a blast on dirt roads and off-road tracks. Now for MY WISH LIST. I wish the suspension damping was as sophisticated as what I have on my mountainbikes. I wish it came with a higher rise bars, just slightly knobbier tires, and an accessory cable to run some 12 volt accessories like a GPS, Phone, or small auxiliary lights. And most importantly I wish it went about 40-45mph like the UBCO HUNT 2x2 to handle higher speed roads. I can address everything but the speed and suspension issues with a few extra bucks and some ingenuity. BTW, my buddy got a promotion deal on his at $4000. At that price it's well worth it.

[@tumbleweed1976]

Thank you for showing this product.

[@SilverCymbal]

Thank you, I really love this one. I have ridden it so much someone in my town thought I was doing Amazon deliveries. That's dedication.

[@MOBStreet83]

I had an UBCO for a year and three TW200's. The UBCO overheated climbing hills and I had two Hub motors grenade themselves in less than 300 miles on the bike. Unless there is weight holding down the front end the 2wd isn't that great in the hills. I still have 3 TW's and the UBCO is gone. I really liked the bike, but it just didn't have what I needed out here in Central Utah. The terrain is too rough and rugged for the UBCO

[@SilverCymbal]

That sounds pretty odd. As I am in NH where all we have is hills and I have already put 1500 miles on this bike. No motor issues, yet anyway. My TW200 had to be babied to start cold, every time (choke, then hold the throttle for about 3 minutes), would never idle on its on (it was new too) and worse the clutch plates stuck, apparently owners said it was normal, so clutch in, click to 1st the bike would take off like no clutch. The issues made me use it less and less. I loved how the TW looked, the mech issues that apparently couldn't be changed really got to me. Believe me, the Ubco isn't perfect but its quiet, instant nature is my favorite and I am alwats carrying something someplace, so the built in racks are good.

[@FightFilms]

@@SilverCymbalsounds like a bunch of BS

[@rashadabdullah9769]

After heart failure stroke and hypoxia i had no choice but to put a motor on my bike. First was those garbage 66cc kits off amazon. Let me tell you the definition for those kits: crash coarse in 2 stroke engine. After long debating and planning this year i finally went 4 stroke. Modified a bike frame to mount a honda gx100 while still being able to pedal. My god. Way better than the 66cc. B4 i was filling my gas tank like twice a week no load. Now, every 200km with my trailer loaded. My tank is one galon. More power too for pulling my trailer. Smooth, no vibration, low noise. Have it mated to a 30 series torque converter. The Juggernaut and genuine comet 7 inch driven. Its great omg. No more pedal start. Still tho, its no where near as fun as back when i was healthy on my 2004 Giant NRS2. Chose to buy that over a car. Never look back.

[@gregskannal7235]

Yes sir! Ive traded in my TW200 & Vstrom650 for the UBCO 2x2 and I'm loving it! I kept my ATVs however. I wouldn't compare the UBCO to the Tdub, a better comparison would be the Honda Trail125. Reason being; ergonomics, seat, step thru frame, tire size, and auto transmission. If you own one or 2 motorcycles, it's ok, but when you own several like i did, maintenance becomes too much a chore. Especially when you can't ride them all enough and the gas starts going stale. I still have my ATVs but im loving not having to constantly deal with oil changes, air filter cleaning, and chain maintenance. We have 2 UBCOs and can load them in our van in 4 minutes and take them places without the van smelling like gas fumes. Some of the trails where i live are shared trails (dirtbikes, hikers, horseback riders). I always got the stink eye on my dirtbike. Now hikers just smile and wave at me. Horseback riders appreciate it but complain that I'm too quiet which doesn't give their horse a chance to prepare for our meeting LOL. I dont know why you say 30 miles of distance because i see you've got the 3.1k battery, which is rated to 75 miles (under perfect conditions). The way i ride, i easily get 50 miles out of mine (hills, sand, rocks). And when you're on single tracks and forest roads, 50 miles are in dog years all day long. I've been contemplating and saving up to possibly buy a Honda Trail125, but now I'm thinking why? Instead, i will probably just buy another 3.1k battery and mount it up front. It'll help with the little range-anxiety i sometimes get (tho its never got me), and it will also add some weight to the front to assist that front wheel 2x2 traction. HERE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS THIS MACHINE CAN USE: ●Better suspension. I like to ride it hard thru the rocks. I dont jump it because the planetary gears are plastic and cant take that kind of shock, but going hard and fast (30mph LOL) thru rocks could be less jarring. ●A parking brake notch on the brake lever. With a standard motorcycle i can use the foot brake when i briefly stop on a hill to take a drink, view map, take a photo etc. Both brakes on the UBCO are bar mounted so when you need 2 hands on a hill it wants to roll downhill. I affixed a velcro strap to hold the brake engaged as a "parking brake". BOTTOM LINE: easy to maintain, lightweight, and fun.

[@LovedMyLoyalLongDog]

My go-to channel for the latest & greatest.

[@suzyamerica4679]

In the woods I use a KDX220 for what is essentially a farm task: hauling the chainsaw and shovel out to where the trails have been eroded or become blocked due to falling trees. They share the same fuel mix, and the range of the bike doesn't change due to cold weather.

[@ncironhorse8367]

Honestly, Yamaha needs to update the TW200 a little. I have wanted one for some time but, do not want to deal with a carb and choke. No reason that can't put an FI module on that bike and keep the cost where it is at. Also, love the LED headlight for that bike. This thing you reviewed would not be something I would want

[@robtheknob7791]

Very cool, adding this to the ranch wish list. Just gotta get a ranch first…

[@wj9494]

I’m glad you are happy but, giving up 16 hp for 2.5, just doesn’t do it for me. An issue I have with my e-bike is battery theft, it’s difficult for me to lock up my bike securely.

[@WrongTimeWatch]

This one is a little out of my budget. You have sold me on 2wd, so now i start my search for a 2wd ebike.

[@darrellr6854]

Web sight says $5,999 As low as $418 a month with affirm. Which could end up to $8000 with interest. Free shipping to US. Yamaha web sight for TW200 $4999 plus $375 destination charge and tax for whatever state your in. Unless you find it on sale. Not sure about parts and availability for each when stuff breaks.

[@RussellHogan]

I have about 3500 miles on my UBCO. Great bike. The only con is the max speed of 30 mph (high motor temp) which is too slow for my secondary roads.

[@joshuamorin2762]

One of the biggest benefits of the Yamaha is the big, floaty tires. I like the idea of the ubco but it needs an overhaul with longer travel suspension and much wider tires. End of the day i will always want and enjoy fuel powered engines. So much goes missing from the experience once the engine is removed.

[@maximthemagnificent]

In my state, the difference between legal maximum ebike and e-moped speeds is all of two miles per hour, so I went the bike route (also so I'd get some exercise), but I did opt for a scooter style one because of my bony butt. Lot of state trails here that an ebike is allowed on that an electric scooter without pedals would not be. Love it, though I did have to raise the seat six inches for a good pedaling position.

[@trd8749]

Having ridden one of these, I wasn't overly impressed with the 2wd. The front wheel seemed a bit sketchy, the guy giving us the demo units said not to throttle around corners. I personally think there's nothing to improve with a rear drive (own a sur ron). I do appreciate the utility and attachment points of this for farm work.

[@atomicsmith]

I was disappointed to find out these have no ‘traction control’ type feature. You can fully spin the front wheel in certain situations. These hub motors have speed sensors, it would be very easy to make sure they don’t spin independently…

[@MrWalksindarkness]

I have been looking for something exactly like this. I have a motorcycle but with how much it rains where I live it sits in my garage and then I have issues with the carb and have just thought something electric would be way easier to maintain. I only live a couple miles from work, I have looked into E-bikes but couldn't figure why there wasn't anything between a 500-1500 E bike and a 10-12K electric motorcycle. Bam, here it is.

[@UbberMapper]

Wow, that end was so abrupt that i genuinely thought my browser had crashed.

[@jamesbubnick]

You might want to check out the bikes from Land Energy, they are awesome, you can switch between moped and motorcycle mode, incredible power, great range, etc...

[@WestShoreMan]

I researched these but the the distance without recharging is terrible. I bought a Honda Trail instead at 160 miles a gallon.

[@3f34f2f4]

Greenfield is such an underrated area of the state. I love camping there.

[@nonyobussiness3440]

I found upgrading to thicker tires for our fat tire e-bike was a must due to random drill bits and screws in the road. Even in rural eras. You’ll come across a drill bit and a popped tire sucks lol

[@larryking4208]

Great bike enjoy it. Thank you for great videos. Appreciate your content and interesting video.

[@SilverCymbal]

Thank you kindly!

[@wandererstraining]

Hmm, it's a cool bike but overall I think that I prefer my self-built ebike. It has 1820Wh worth of batteries, which are distributed on the bike to make it well balanced. The bike itself is a steel frame hardtail bike, and it uses a BBSHD from Bafang. It only weights 75 lbs, as compared to the 145 lbs of the UBCA bike with a 2100Wh battery. My bike is as fast (reaches about the same top speed on throttle), but it's also more efficient and has better range. The range can also be increased by a lot if I pedal with the bike. The parts are all standard parts, as well, and there are lots of spare and third party options available, and that includes the motor, which also has a lot of upgrades available (I'm soon to receive a 3000W controller, which I think would get me to go about as fast as the faster off-road only version of the UBCO). Even buying all my parts new, it still cost less than the UBCO. But it's also a different stroke for different folks. The UBCO has rear suspension, which my bike doesn't have. When riding my bike in rough terrain, I use my legs quite a bit to absorb shocks. The UBCO has more integrated storage. My bike has a rear rack that's strong enough to sit on, but I don't think that I can get a font rack that's as strong as what you find on the UBCO. The UBCO is already built, which is simpler than sourcing a bunch of components and spending the time to build a DIY bike, and with less chances of messing up the build. I also 3D printed a lot of my own mounting parts, so I had to spend time measuring my frame and designing the custom parts. In the end, I'm using my bike almost daily, and I'm sure that is the case for a lot of people who get a bike like that. I've rarely ever felt as free in terms of transportation as I feel now. I don't have to mess around with transit, which can be slow and inconsistent. I don't have to be stuck in traffic and finding parking is easier. I can go off road without any worries. It's quiet and cheap to recharge. And it's so much fun.

[@gotchurebeacons-gaming9023]

30-50 mile ranges will forever be the one thing that puts electric bikes as a no-go for anyone who actually understands how limiting that puny range is. 100 miles needs to be a benchmark/bare minimum for the industry to shoot for…allowing a rider to get in a full day of leisure enjoyment.

[@jamesconner3437]

Correct. I actually like my old LECTRIC 2.0 for 5 miles there and back, but my 50cc moped will go as far as there are gas stations, and back...lol.

[@scizzahands]

Absolutely correct I have an electric unicycle that has 120mile range until these electric bikes/motorcycles have real use range the are worthless

[@RobH1957]

Totally… I love this Ubco bike, would love to get one but never with the range from 30 to 50 miles I want one that can go all day into the mountains and still come back.

[@goochma]

I agree, they are good for what they are designed for but that's about it.

[@gtrfreak]

I have an electric scooter that I use to get around town and have never gone more than 20 miles on it. Love it, no need to do maintenance on it other than tightening the bolts and it just goes

[@jdsolberg7613]

Make sure you charge well away from your domicile and your insurance is up to date.

[@sewerrat7612]

Why?

[@SonnyDarvish]

I never rode a motorbike, but something like this is probably will be my first move. As a cyclist, I own a Tern Orox that's quite beefy for cycling world. It takes large tires and can have 1600 Wh battery with Bosch motor. This motor bike seems to be a a step up from pedal assist to throttle.

[@TexasScout]

Sorry, that range is a hard no for me.

[@Mr.PoopyDoobertPants]

Good to know

[@Equinox68]

I love my ebike. It goes about 22mph. It's not a 2wd but I've never had an issue with front wheel drive. It also folds up so I can toss it into my suv

[@SilverCymbal]

Since I was a kid I have loved everything with 2 wheels. Anything that gets you out there and you have fun with is awesome.

[@jamescady723]

Man, another great find.

[@Smaug1]

Looks like a good option where distances aren't too great and there are a lot of unpaved roads or trails. I live in a medium-sized city, and 30 mph is no-man's land here: It's OK for side streets and that's it. There are no offroad areas we can ride for practical reasons, so this becomes a $5-6k moped. I'd much rather have a Zuma 125 for my part of the world. Heck, my Yamaha X-Max 300 cost just a bit more than the Adventure, but less than the Special Edition. It can go 80 mph and returns 75 mpg at < 60 mph. This is a legit option for areas where there are unpaved roads. UBCO needs to make the Duty model available to non-fleet customers at a fair price. 60 mph top speed is more palatable than 30 for most Americans.

[@demetriusgallitzin8859]

Only if it has traction control. Electric motorcycles have 10x the torque and easily spin out even on slow or medium turns. I broke my tailbone as a result of my rear hitting the pavement before I knew the seat disappeared beneath me. FortNine documented the problem in one of their electric motorcycle videos, but very few two-wheeled electric vehicles include traction control even today.

[@utubepickett]

I’ve had one for about a month. Great fun. Need to figure out a good solar recharge setup.

[@jasonjac123]

My ubco taxes in Kansas are around $600 a year. That’s a deal breaker for a bike that’s now only worth about $2k because no one wants to buy it.

[@toddshreve]

Maybe you shouldn't live in Kansas

[@kevinmiller5467]

Sell it out of state?

[@jasonjac123]

@@kevinmiller5467 it’s been on fb for over a year and little interest. I have about $9k in it and accessories and I’d be happy to get 3k

[@b.h.1205]

Why is that? Is it registered like a car/motorcycle in KS?

[@jasonjac123]

@@b.h.1205 The vehicle registration to have a tag is around $50 but then there is a separate property tax of around $550 like what you would have on a four wheeler.

[@pworker8124]

Can you show the battery removal process etc? Loading onto a pick up for transportation? Thank you!

[@sageosaka]

I think this thing is kinda cool, but I wasn't sure what you meant about motorcycles having to ride in the middle of the road. I have ridden motorcycles for years and riding on the side of the road or even side by side with another rider is very common.

[@americandude3825]

My first bike was a 1987 Yamaha tw200!!! (They are exactly the same in 2024). Wrecked it doing 64 mph. Broke the speedo, bent the kick stand, tore the seat, blood on the head lamp, seat, etc. Got up and rode it home (thankfully it was a dirt road and I was fully clothes). Had to have my chin “reformed” bc my helmet flipped up even tho I wore it correctly.

[@toddshreve]

It looks like you operated 2 different versions in the video clips. Maybe you could share the differences, why you had 2 different models, and compare/contrast the different LED options, tires options, etc

[@MainelyElectrons]

I love my AWD electric bike, it's a tad bit more powerful than the UBCO @ 1200W on the front motor and 5000W on the rear. I had a 1500W hubmotor on the rear before upgrading and used it for climbing local mountains (Both road and trails, nothing too crazy since it's a converted hardtail bike.) Now it's far too heavy for anything beyond road, gravel, and slow offroad. I've gone thousands of miles in the past two years, saving a ton on gas/WT and convincing me that I have no need to get a motorcycle for the foreseeable future. Such minimal maintenance is required

[@slash.9882]

why didnt you mention the price, come on

[@SilverCymbal]

I made notes in the description. They have 8 different models from 3700 and up

[@slash.9882]

@@SilverCymbal you didnt mention the price of yours

[@Dextermorga]

I love that the Puch moped was sold in Eastern EU 30-40years ago under the name Babeta😊

[@keithwilson965]

Seems pretty neat but a 30 - 50 mile range is a deal breaker.

[@gsxr419]

I have a Lectric bike that claims 40 miles. Maybe half. I don’t know a single brand that comes close to what they claim. Unless downhill with the wind at your back.

[@mikeohandley1922]

Looks great but do they make one with two 500 watt motors? Here in Washington State electric bikes are limited to 1000 watts or they have to get licensed with insurance and can only travel on the highway.

[@jade6773]

My bandit x-trail pro also has 2WD suspension.

[@effortless_choice]

I think this UBCO would be a great rig to have around the farm, perhaps in town. My main concern would be repairing it, e.g., are parts available, can I do the repairs myself. Not having to buy gas, do oil changes would be nice. 👍

[@SilverCymbal]

Agreed, A lot of NZ folks buy these for farms since the silence doesn't spook the animals as they do their work. They sell all the parts for you to repair yourself and they have dealers, certainly not everywhere. I have seen many owners do warranty repairs themselves, they aren't pulling the John Deere move at least not yet!

[@atomicsmith]

Most of the parts are either off the shelf bike of motorcycle parts. Even these hub motors are fairly easy to find from 3rd party.

[@effortless_choice]

@@atomicsmith Thanks for the input. 👍🇺🇸

[@Marvin-fn7ks]

I have had many dirt bikes and now near 70 I have an Areil Rider e-bike and a Yamaha xt225 . The e-bike is good for many things but I turn to the Yamaha to do some real off-roading. I like the idea of this bike but as with many,it’s 2 questions. 1 battery replacement cost,2 ride comfort. My e-bike doesn’t even come close to the Yamaha for ride comfort even though it has front and rear shocks. My 2002 Yamaha has cost me 5 oil changes and 2 batteries .

[@SilverCymbal]

The batteries are $1500 and the comort on this Ubco for whatever reason is the best I Have ever had on a bike. I cant take it 500 miles. pbviously due to range but I have ridden this for abotu 4 hours straight with remarkable comfort, Very easy to ride

[@Marvin-fn7ks]

@@SilverCymbal thanks for the update. When I checked on the 3.1 battery at an online dealer here in Canada it was $3300 and the bike was $6 k . I will definitely test one out in the spring. You are the only tester that had a similar bike to my xt225 for comparison. Thanks again!

[@rudyardganuelas6254]

jeep of motorcycles? will it have a death wobble too?

[@martonlerant5672]

There is one huge downsids with the machine. As you pointed out "its a scooter" in the sense of range. Hence it cannot really offer all the capabilities of a motorcycle. Still if it would have some illegally good aero on 5 to 10 kWh battery it should have good range.

[@Zenas521]

Vary cool but... my problems are more than range anxiety, its winter. Montana winters have been known to eat battery capacity without even trying. Winter has turned a new Tesla with a 600 mile range into a new Tesla with a 25 mile range, and that is just one winter. This is one advantage ICE have over electric motors. I see all electric vehicles as sun belt only. One day some one will address this issue and then I can finally give electric a serious consideration. Until then, ICE is the only way for me.

[@melguilb4508]

Can it tow a trailer with a mower, trimmer, gas and a few hand tools weighing 150 lbs or more? I do this on my peddle bike but im hitting 50

[@utubepickett]

It has a cargo weight capacity of 350lbs. I haven’t rigged a trailer yet, but am planning to do so. What you’re describing seems achievable.

[@kingoftweaks]

Did I miss where you mentioned how long it can go before the batteries is empty? Anything else really matter much?

[@matthewmucci9107]

Would love to know what its like in snow. And can you turn 2wd on and off to extend range?

[@TheKingOfInappropriateComments]

Very cool. I have a follow up question. Why does Taxachussetts need to charge $20 a year for it?

[@SilverCymbal]

Thats just a moped sticker, and allows you to ride on the road legally. But no insurance needed. My motorycle in Mass insured cost me $450/year with reg and tax and if you have a nice Harley it can be a lot higher. If I lived in Boston I would use on of these any day it wasn't snowing badly and take it in the aprtment at night and save a fortune,

[@TheKingOfInappropriateComments]

@@SilverCymbal Right but I mean, $20. It seems like a rather petty money grab. What does it go towards? It's like being charged at a bar for a glass of water because you didn't want a cocktail.

[@blzt3206]

Don’t care what the law says but always wear a helmet. Even if the only reason is for the kids watching.

[@SilverCymbal]

No argument from me.

[@CollinMF]

Also don’t step out of your house unless you’re wrapped in bubble wrap, you never know what’s going to happen! 😱

[@mabriff]

@@CollinMF Our bodies can take a tremendous amount of abuse without us being unable to heal or causing our death. The head is much more fragile and thus far more susceptible to catastrophic life changing injury. Mom was an ER nurse. She's seem some shift.

[@CollinMF]

@@mabriff ummm…. Duh!! lol

[@joe_moms_lover]

F them kids

[@hiz-n-lowz1577]

5:15 30mph is like lightning. Are you serious?

[@SilverCymbal]

30mph on a bike is very fast & the acceleration is unbelievable for something that weighs 150lbs.. I have owned Harleys, BMWs and ridden on Rte 128 in Mass many times over 120mph like a moron so I have some concept of speed. This is a different experience and while it may seem hard to believe, test ride on of these, I think you will be very surprised. I make nothing whether you buy this or a 1200cc race bike.

[@f1y7rap]

This looks like a nice alternative to a ROXOR, buuut... range will be a killer. also, your statement that it is legal on-road. From my research it is classified (in NH) as off-road and limited by same rules as ATVs (not used on Class 4 roads or above, mandatory moto helmet, ...) and is banned on paths that are for walking & bicycling only (like the Derry Rail trail or portions of the Rockingham Rail trail) Not having pedals it cannot qualify for a class 2 bike. Local DPD even posted a Facebook post the other day clarifying that anything over 750W is not permitted on-road (unless it conforms with rules for motorbikes & mopeds like registration & such...)

[@SilverCymbal]

It isn't an e-bike as it doesn't have pedals. As I had mentioned in the video its a moped in most states, which is what it is in NH for the $18/year

[@mattmoore9042]

I've had mine for a couple years and I'm never looking back. Questions everywhere you go. Mine is licensed so I can ride it on Forest Service roads. The Rangers have it in for "E Bikes" they don't even blink looking at me. The utility bike really explains it. I've had dirt bike guys laugh and say it's like a stupid Honda 90 and it's just weak. I have to explain, it's not "Dirt Bike" it's a trail bike that goes anywhere, in the snow too. When they ride it they just get big smile from ear to ear and it's it. Nothing but fun!!!!

[@corbinwashington747]

How much does the uncooked cost

[@brianleverich4467]

After fifty years of bicycle and motorcycle riding that would be nice on the back of the rv also looking at the Honda 125 trail for it’s easy mount and dismount I’m ready to give up the klr 650 I want something lighter and more nimble

[@SilverCymbal]

It's really popular for that. Campground use is awesome, then go to town to buy stuff or whatever else you need.

[@tomtalley2192]

Nice bike, but I live in the city, and would never drive one of these around town. I'm guessing you are in Western Mass, which is much more rural.

[@MezeiEugen]

Electric vehicles are great, we all agree. The problem is you divert from the problem, that being the battery.

[@Leonidimus59]

1:41 What are mole compatible panels haha?

[@lola-bb-poplar-watchdog]

That totally kicks in all five pockets at the same time, all the same it can tow?

[@nashgrey]

Sadly my TW didn’t go more than about 40 under me, and the air cooled engine pretty much roasted me during Austin TX commutes

[@keithert]

Why would you buy this version rather than the street legal version?

[@zachryan7283]

wow looks really nice

[@SilverCymbal]

Agreed, it sounds a bit silly but this machine has really changed my life (a bit anyway) you can escape on it for a quick ride here and there but its useful too. Its been a fantastic purchase and I can still get parts 5 years down the road if needed unlike many no name ebikes.

[@PandaMoolin]

that's krazy! nothing is better than gas atm...

[@440-6Pack]

Why not keep the Yamaha also?

[@Atrip111]

My dealer has them. Really cool, but ya would not be fast enough for only bike or normal road use. Yes I know can be done had a 50cc for couple years. Maybe if end in van or had property.

[@lunatik9696]

Once you have dual motors, you will never want to go back. TRUTH!

[@SilverCymbal]

Agreed, it's hard to describe how well they work until you try them, but it's a game changer

[@Tmrfe0962]

Seems like a great ride, can you purchase and therefore carry a spare battery? You mentioned battery comes out, does it charge while out of bike? Thanks

[@atomicsmith]

The batteries are pretty heavy, so carrying a second would probably not be ideal. They can charge outside the bike. I think these are optimized for getting around a large farm or ranch or trips around a small town, not really cross country distances.

[@kirkwilson5905]

Some call the TW200 a good bike. Some not many. Trading it for anything else would be seen as an upgrade for just about everyone. I've had around 30-35 bikes all ridden hard, no garage queens. Logged around 500k miles on 3 continents. So yeah my perspective may be skewed compared to many. Just a random thought: Good e-bike motocross bikes could influence the sport heavily by bringing MX tracks back to urban areas. No noise complaints....

[@SilverCymbal]

Sadly the TW200 I bought brand new was frusting in many ways. It is just a bit too slow for highway use which puts it in that odd category as not quite fast enough. The UBCO accelerates faster, albeit to 30mph. But what no one talks about is the TW was a horrible cold weather starter, too 5 minutes of throttle goosing to start it every mornign, but worse the clutch plates stick. So it lunges when you shift even with the clutch pulled in. My 1980 Vespa didn't have this issue, nor any other bike. The solution was revving it a few times when starting cold. I use my bike 30x a week, and this got old really fast and its just the way the TW way. The UBCO takes me places I couldnt get a motorcycle into and the built in storage lets me use it to do everything. By no means do I hate the TW, but they need to upgrade the tech in it, its got problems.

[@kirkwilson5905]

@SilverCymbal Sorry to hear your frustrations. That description sounds like an oil choice problem not the bike. But yes the TW is significantly underpowered.

[@onjofilms]

But can it jump the Grand Canyon?

[@choppergirl]

It would get me to the grocery store, but it wouldn't get me back I'll stick with my Honda Shadow for the time being.

[@nelsondisalvatore9812]

Are we talking old Jeeps or new Jeeps?

[@blackshirt5530]

Beautiful land - looks beautiful there! You like it much better than Massachusetts?

[@SilverCymbal]

NH is a beaitful state with so much scenery and locked up land in conservation. Winters can be brutual and its a much slower way of life. I lived in cities for decades, apartments and condos and I am all done with it. If you can make it work and you like doing stuff for yourself, living here can be life changing in a positive way.

[@venom5809]

This looks fun as hell.

[@SilverCymbal]

It definitely is, much more so than I had expected, I like that they have dealers where you can test ride one. Even on my first ride, I was amazed at how fast it is, I know 30 seems slow, but if you ride one you will see what I mean,

[@nashgrey]

Sadly my TW didn’t go more than about 40 under me, and the air cooled engine pretty much roasted me during Austin TX commutes. As much as I loved it, it was like riding a giant chainsaw

[@gugion]

Please review the Ego e-Bike!

[@MichaelWarbux]

Put one of your 600 generators on that back rack and you'll be able to go cross country with this bad boy!

[@IndianaGraphics]

40mph is moped speed. I ride a 50cc Yamaha Zuma.

[@SilverCymbal]

I have owned a couple of Zumas. That is a very fun scooter and super well built.

[@davidcombs1785]

That's good range, but when it gets cold out. The range will most likely drop, significantly!!

[@dalesworld1308]

I had a Suzuki DR200 and when I changed the front sprocket for a couple extra mph's I got just shy of 100 mpg. With a 3.5 gallon tank I was riding all day long. Electric will never do that.

[@CarlosRodriguez-kb9jc]

I would love to have something like this to commute to work, but in all the different routes that I can take to go to work, I have to be able to do at least 55. Anything less is suicidal on our roads.

[@SilverCymbal]

You may have to look at things differently a bit with this one. I don't encourage you to break all kinds of laws, but this is so small you mgiht be able to cut through some places that a full size motorycycle, along with the noise could never go. The campground I was at on the stairwell, I never would have done that on a motorycle, just too big , noisy and heavy. The UBCO isn't going to solve every problem in the world but it is a stealth little bike that sneaks around all over the place in urban areas

[@knife_knut]

Be sure to carry a bucket of electrons for when your battery dies…

[@WanderingDad]

"dual 1000 watt motors" is a strange way of saying 2.5 horsepower.

[@user-gq2vn1xj2r]

It's a more specific way of saying it, especially when considering watt-hour capacity of a battery.

[@ScrapKing73]

Interesting video. But the idea that you're a moped when you want but can also be an e-bike when you need to be doesn't seem to be accurate, as there's no street legal e-bike that can go 30 mph. Perhaps you mean people will generally tolerate you doing bicycle-like things despite it not being street legal to do so?

[@owenconnolly3041]

NIce SCooter Bro !!!

[@batbawls]

Beautiful area

[@DaBinChe]

2wd is pretty cool. I have a 2wd scooter and that thing climbs

[@user-cq6km9vq2m]

Aniioki A9 shames this thing for a third of the price. 2wheel drive, 45MPH 50 miles range throttle only Pedal assist up to 200.

[@OKFrax-ys2op]

Parts & service? In 5 to 10 days or years, separates the men from the boys.

[@iankm1]

Is it legal in every state?

[@iankm1]

How do I get the sticker?

[@SilverCymbal]

The street version (blinkers and brake lights) fall sunder a moped registration in states. Some might call it an ebike but from the definition moped is usually the way to go. Check your RMV for moped regulations and this should help. Ubco dealers are in almost every state you can always check there too.