SOLDANO SLO 100 vs FRACTAL FM3: is the real Soldano worth the extra money?

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Leo Gibson

Leo Gibson

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@sushantaggarwal8856
@sushantaggarwal8856 3 жыл бұрын
By far the most authentic reviews, done in the most non-biased way! Thank you!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this really means a lot to me!!!
@kenmasters007
@kenmasters007 4 жыл бұрын
I like your comparisons... Nobody else does it the way you do. You go thru the process of matching and comparing across the freq spectrum.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ken! Really appreciated!!! I try to test the things I would be interested in and then your comments, in all these months of comparisons, have added a lot of value...and now I think that these test are more refined in comparison with few months ago...even if there are always new things to learn...:)...
@FabioCattaneo
@FabioCattaneo 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison as usual! I really like the way you do this videos, they're very honest and they keep me coming back for more :-) Listening to your comparison I agree with you about anything but the price difference being worth. I mean, here the real deal sounds better and the nuances you mentioned are obvious. The point is the digital modelers are all about mimicking real devices, and here you're getting 99% of it with the FM3, without messing with more advanced parameters that may help improving the sound, at a third of the price point. Moreover you get portability, as you said, a ton of top quality effects as well as hundreds of other amps. But, in my humble opinion, you forgot the 2 most important differences you get with the FM3: sound consistency and hardware reliability. While the latter could be discussed, the first one cannot ;-) You will get the same sound in your records and live, no matter the ambient temperature, the mic positioning, etc. etc. All in all I see more pros in the modeler than the amp. The only scenario I prefer the amp is when playing for my own pleasure, in the room. So, again, something I am the only one to benefit from.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fabio, thank you for your compliments...they really mean a lot to me!!! I see your points...they are clever and constructive, thank you for sharing!
@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin
@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t really agree on sound consistency.,.. Over the updates on my AxeFxIII I had sometimes completely lost the sweet spot amp sound I had because they changed their algorithms in a bad way. I had this horrible feel when I had sold my AxeFxIIXL to get the AxefxIII which IMO was better... more bass response and high were more musical and pleasant. The Kemper in another hand is just what the profile dictate. Profiles don’t change over updates. That’s the reason I sold AxeFxIII for Kemper.
@FabioCattaneo
@FabioCattaneo 4 жыл бұрын
NO TALK Guitar Amp Plug-ins Reviews I see your point, but I was talking about amp sound vs modeler sound (generic, not specific to FM3). Of course if you keep updating the firmware you must audition your presets everytime and this is not ideal for the touring musician. However, Axe-FX is the flagship processor and it’s the one constantly introducing new algorithms. I think the FM3 will be much more conservative (just look at the gap now...)
@208414
@208414 4 жыл бұрын
I think your point about consistency is a good one. With a real amp / cab / microphone setup your tone is going to be inconsistent from stage to stage. Moving a microphone a few cm in any direction can dramatically change the tone heard by the audience. You also have to deal with issues surrounding bleed from other instruments into your mic and balancing amp volume with the needs of the venue. The amp modeler will be the same every time (though you may need to adjust global EQ to fit the PA / room). It also gives you total control over stage volume without any bleed from other instruments.
@joelbest8525
@joelbest8525 4 жыл бұрын
Where the fuck has this guy been for the last 5 years, would have been following long ago. Subscribed
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joel!!! Really appreciated!!! Your sub is very important for me!!!
@robertodepetro1996
@robertodepetro1996 4 жыл бұрын
Identici! Bravissimo! Analisi finale perfetta, ciò mostra sei una persona coi piedi per terra e la testa sul collo.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Grazie Roberto, molto apprezzato!!!
@208414
@208414 4 жыл бұрын
You did a great job of dialing in the FM3 on this demo. I think matching the impedance curve helped a lot. You might want to turn off the input gate on the FM3 (which is on by default) so that it will ring out more similarly to the real amp.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi David, thank you! you actually helped me a lot in setting up the FM3 with your suggestions! As far as I know, in order to turn off the input gate, we should turn its threshold at zero and by default it is at -60. In my tests, even if the gate is set to zero, the fluctuations are still present and they are more evident than the real deal (at least in comparison with my Soldano). Actually with the threshold at zero the fluctuations are even more evident in my opinion. In this test I've reduced the threshold at -80, which in my opinion is the sweet spot... or the best result that I have achieved (still in my opinion, in terms of noise and fluctuations). Thank you for your message!
@208414
@208414 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr Okay, it is good to know that the warbling on the note decay was not caused by the noise gate. Thanks for the great content!
@EitiKimura
@EitiKimura 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I really would like more tutorials on building tones on FM3. Best!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Ok, I will think about it, thank you for your suggestion!
@jips123
@jips123 4 жыл бұрын
It is however very important to maintain equal volume level.
@RafaelNunes-sd3sj
@RafaelNunes-sd3sj 4 жыл бұрын
Great Leo! Very Nice comparison. Another level ...
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rafael, really appreciated!!
@noslang5539
@noslang5539 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent ! And agree with your conclusions, all is in the details at the end of the day, if you can afford it !
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion. You are right...if you can afford it..
@Avatar7x7
@Avatar7x7 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the FM3 had a noise gate (default setting) in it's signal chain which would effect the sustain and cause the artifacts that Leo is referring to !
@isaiahreuben9251
@isaiahreuben9251 3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster.
@johnbach2380
@johnbach2380 Жыл бұрын
That is the noise gate.
@samgeorge2494
@samgeorge2494 4 жыл бұрын
Both are pretty similar for someone doesn't care much about the deep details or doesn't afford the real Soldano. Thank you for your effort in doing this comparison.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam, appreciated!!!
@KrstovicNikola
@KrstovicNikola 3 жыл бұрын
One of the things i would like to mention is the high and low cut in the preamp section on the FM3. I tend to turn them off (set them at 0 and 20 or 40k). It gives u more top end "liveliness" and less of that mid range hump. Another thing i like to do sometimes is to set the output EQ on the amp model in the Mesa Mark series mode and set the 750hz slider on -2 or -3 db. That eliminates that boxy mid frequencies that some of the models have. Cheers!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nikola...these are very interesting tips! Thank you for sharing!
@mathewkyser3903
@mathewkyser3903 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm super happy that you like the video!!!
@przemyslaw1235
@przemyslaw1235 4 жыл бұрын
We all loves gear 😊amps ,guitars but with your skills everything sounds great😊👍Great playing Mr Leo😊👍👍👍👍all the best 👍
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your message makes me happy!
@bosher11
@bosher11 4 жыл бұрын
As always, Leo does the most in depth comparisons focusing on things that really matter to guitar players. Super channel that deserves a much bigger audience! One thing that would be great is a set of tests comparing modellers to amps in a live setting. In our band it seems like you get so much more energy from an amp which leads to better more reactive performance. We have one guitarist using a helix and another guy using a jcm800. Guess which one is smiling 🤔
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your appreciation is really important for me!!!! Interesting topic...even if it is pretty difficult to replicate in a video the physical sensations that the real amp provides...thank you!!!
@lorenmorgan1931
@lorenmorgan1931 Жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr VS the Fractal, if you have a good FRFR wedge that actually can move some air, there is really very little difference, and in fact the fractal cuts through the mix better in the front of the house. Its just super clean. But again the trick is for anyone to have a GOOD (and I do stress GOOD) FRFR. If its missing its balls on the low end and can't move enough air that you can "feel" it, then its a lost cause.
@rickr7361
@rickr7361 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been listening to your stuff for a bit now.. first time posting. Really enjoy how you go about your reviews and excellent playing 👍 I like the Soldano sound wise marginally more than the FM3 but for what you get in the FM3 its a no brainer for me. Its the FM3 for me.. its also interesting to note that the Soldano goes for between 7k - 8k in Australia 😳😳
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, thank you so much, your appreciation of the channel is really important for me! And for sure the price in Australia is really crazy...7-8k is really prohibitive... Thank you for sharing!
@cragginshred
@cragginshred 4 жыл бұрын
I own an FM3 and a SLO 100 and wouldn’t even begin to try and make them sound similar. Yours does sound very good. Can I please have the FM3 Pre set????
@michaelschneider8354
@michaelschneider8354 4 жыл бұрын
Grest comparison - as always. I love your videos! Soldano vs Gt-1000 would be great 😀
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, thank you so much!!! Yes, it would be interesting, but as far as I know, the GT 1000 does not have a soldano simulation...they should add it! Thank you
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Hopefully you'll do Nux MG300, Valeton GP100 and Mooer GE150 SLO100 model as well.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, I will do some more videos like this...I also have other projects...therefore I need time...Thank you once more for your interest in my channel!!!
@alienlovesecrets9379
@alienlovesecrets9379 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison as always. Yes, the Soldano is worth every cent. The minor things you mentioned are very important at this level and can make THE difference in feel on stage. You play the way you feel and this again will notice every audience. Would I bring it on stage if I could have it much more convenient? Only if I had people carrying and setting everything up for me... So the answer is no. I would still take the small digital solution, especially for small venues which make at least 80% of my gigs. Thank you much for the best comparison videos on KZbin. 👌
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you...really really appreciated and Yes... I do agree with you 😊👍🏻
@jcoulter43
@jcoulter43 4 жыл бұрын
The Soldano has that little bit of extra, sparkly top-end magic that a tone hound can hear when compared side by side. In a mix, no one can tell the difference, especially your listening audience. Great comparison video as usual and I love that demo song riffage and that silky lead. The FM3 is an absolutely amazing value for what you can do with it and is hands down the modeling winner in that price range, in my opinion. Keep up the great work Leo. God bless and rock on 😎👍🎸
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciated!!! I do agree...😊
@tgchan
@tgchan 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr if you had to quick list the best modellers in 2022 from the top of your head. Which would you pick in top5? top3 is also possible if you don't want to spend too much time thinking :) - I am mainly interested in your opinion. Which one do you think sound the best from the best to very good.
@cbsaulren
@cbsaulren 2 жыл бұрын
Even with Fractal being on top of the modeling game, it doesn't really compare to the real deal. Been looking at the fm3/9 for a while, but I'm not sure it's worth to make the switch to modelers just yet. Thanks for the comparison!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, thank you for sharing your opinion & experience!
@Youngster543210
@Youngster543210 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you keep telling yourself that bud 👌
@lorenmorgan1931
@lorenmorgan1931 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty damn good, but it is lacking a little in the meat and potatoes of the core sound (the balls). Its not bad, but you are right, its not 100% there. Playing with the Soldanos through Neural Amp Modeler though, my god they feel so much better. I wish I had a real SLO here to compare myself.
@zazanroger
@zazanroger 4 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison this time, the different might between the master volume on fm3, fractal audio tend to preset high saturation poweramp sound, try lower master volume on fm3, the master knob and presence knob taper is "Not" the same as Amp, master volume 6 on Fm3 is very very saturation.
@Satchafunkilus
@Satchafunkilus 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. the FM3 sounds like it's on 3 compared to the SLO as if it was on 5. Nothing compares to the SLO 100, NOTHING. It'll be my next purchase!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for sharing you findings!
@gorbzzz
@gorbzzz 4 жыл бұрын
Basic question. Are you monitoring through your studio monitors? Also, what interface are you using so as to know what kind of converters we are hearing.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Goerge, yes I'm monitoring via my studio monitors and I'm using the Apollo X16 as audio interface. Thank you for your question!
@alvaroantonioocampogrey2823
@alvaroantonioocampogrey2823 4 жыл бұрын
and also, the looks on the Soldano... is beautiful :') jaj, FM3 is awesome! but it's so difficult to buy one jaj Greetings, Leo. Great comparison lml
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alvaro...yes, the Soldano really looks great!
@ransisua
@ransisua 4 жыл бұрын
You probably want to put the amp label on the lamp indicators of the parallel mixer instead of pointing the amps all the time. To save your time. Just my suggestion.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion!!! Thank you!
@weirdtv9947
@weirdtv9947 4 жыл бұрын
Interresting comparaison Leo, have you already do a comparaison with a plugin like Nembrini Bst 100 or another that simulate a Soldano ?
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you!!! Not yet...I've done a review of the Nembrini simulation of the JCM 800 and of a Fender. Thank you for your suggestion!
@andivax
@andivax 4 жыл бұрын
weirdtv it will be very interesting. Nembrini's cabs is not impulses tho
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, you are right, but you have the possibility to load IR (at least in the ones I've tested). Thank you!
@riccovrea841
@riccovrea841 4 жыл бұрын
Great video i love when you do comparison videos. I think it very close. It’s one of my favorite amps both in the digital and real world. What was IR you used? Did you make it? Or where can I get it?
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you so much!!!! Yes, it is an IR I did! I've finally done 4 IRs, two of a Marshall greenback (one micked with an SM 57 and with a Chandler Preamp, and the other with a Royer 121 with a Neve 1073), one of a Mesa Boogie Vintage 30, micked with an SM 57 and using a 2610 dream, and the last one related to a Brunetti Jensen speaker, micked with an SM 57 and using an API 512 preamp. Finally I'm pretty happy with the result, so now I'm making a video showing you the IR creation process and I'm trying to make a web site to offer them to all of you!!! I still need some weeks to finish everything....Thank you for your patience and stay tuned!!!!
@jimmygrant3151
@jimmygrant3151 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Soldano in the AX8. Sounds great. Glad you have the real deal. At my level of the game, it really makes no difference to me. I also like the Neural DSP Soldano and the Nembrini Soldano.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy, thank you for sharing! I've just bought the Nembrini...I want also to try the Neural DSP Soldano....I'm really curious to hear how they compare!
@jimmygrant3151
@jimmygrant3151 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr While you will never get an amp sim to "sound" like the real thing, you can get amp sims sounding extremely close. The modeling these days is just spot on. Bonus is I can simulate input gain to really get the best performance from my sims in my desktop studio. Plus, I wont be bothering my neighbors with a loud amp.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy....good points!!!
@andyandy2731
@andyandy2731 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Leo! Could you make the following comparison: a. soldano's preamp into IR vs b. fm3 soldano preamp into IR So from the real soldano only preamp would be used. Thank you!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, I think that in this way we are missing the power amp from the signal chain, and so the sound could be penalized: what's your opinion?
@andyandy2731
@andyandy2731 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr Hi Leo. I think that some/many of us cannot play loud at our homes. So in these cases the power amps are not used. So I wonder whether the soldano preamp with IR would be better than fm3 soldano preamp with IR. Maybe companies in the future will offer us more tube preamps that we could connect to digital multieffects for reverb/delay and IRs. I think such a comparison would be interesting. Thank you!
@markushohmann3857
@markushohmann3857 4 жыл бұрын
Great and well done apples to apples comparison! But one question: Is the noise gate in the FM3 IN1 Block set off? (because of min. 8.09)
@satarello
@satarello 3 жыл бұрын
in the mix I hear the difference. FM3 has something more in the middle. but You made very good similar sound to the original Soldano.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing you opinion!
@JHPRS
@JHPRS 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Leo, have you heard about the Xsonic Airstep midi controllers? I bought the combo package, which is an Airstep and an Airstep Lite, for $349. They are on the way to me now and I was wondering if that would be something that you might be reviewing in the future. Check them out if you haven't already, they even do bluetooth midi and they can be linked together, for the addition of 5 more footswitches. :)
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, yeas I've heard and they are pretty interesting!!! Maybe in the future a review....not sure so far, as I've many videos in the pipeline...but they are really interesting! Thank you for your message!
@NamelessMan666
@NamelessMan666 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the muddiness of the FM3 is one of my problems as well. It has some kind of blanket over the sound. It wasn't there in the AXE II but is present for FM3 and AXE III. Maybe the master volume is adding just too much virtual power amp breakup which actually could be the reason. The master volume on the AXE units is a fixed log10 taper whereas on the real amps it differs.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for your message! very interesting points...If I'm able I will try to compare the FX II with the FM3. Thank you so much!
@NamelessMan666
@NamelessMan666 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr No problem. I also noticed that turning the SAG parameter in the supply page removes some of this 'blanket'. The fm3/axeIII is a great piece of gear, but it has too many options. That's why I don't regret having a real 5150 or a Savage 60 amp or a 4x12 cab for reference.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I do agree...I love my Fractal, but it is really expensive in terms of time you have to invest in order to learn all its deep parameters...It's like retiring to school...but studying amps...😊 which is a pretty interesting topic..😊 Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@NamelessMan666
@NamelessMan666 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr Absolutely! I have some knowledge from electronics and how tube amps work but I don't want to tune the fm3 all the time. I want to play and have an authentic sound. Therefore, it's easier to run the amp into a reactive load and then IR :)
@rveurope
@rveurope 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent how you worked out the differences, they both sound excellent though..playing with the real deal might be very rewarding for one! the Slo is "one of a kind beast". .worth any Cent🥴
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you, really appreciated! Thank you also for sharing your opinion!!!
@tpike32
@tpike32 2 жыл бұрын
While listening through phone speakers . It sounds like the fm3 is a bit brighter . I know in the amp settings at least in other amps there is a bright switch . In a mix , you can’t tell. At least in my opinion.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing!!!
@picksalot1
@picksalot1 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the tones were very similar between the two units. The differences were not significant enough for me to purchase the Soldano. I thought the main difference was that the Soldano had a longer, and smoother sustain/decay than the FM3, that that was quite evident in a couple of the tests. The FM3 was much quieter than the Soldano, something that I value very highly. I much prefer the small size of the FM3, its features, versatility, and price. I prefer to listen to music, including my playing, through headphones, and don't have much use for an amp. So, I'm not the best person to review various amp, but I do know what I like and what I think sounds good. Both units sounded good, and I can hear why you purchased the Soldano - its got a beautiful sound. I prefer that kind of sound much more than your Marshall. I don't know if the FM3 would be able to more closely emulate the Soldano given more time to adjust the settings. I'm not wedded to how amps sound. I only care about that the sound I hear is what I want and I like it. Thanks for another excellent review. You're the best!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your opinion and for the compliments, that are really important for me!!!
@Niksounds
@Niksounds 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison!! A parte che non ho ancora capito se sei italiano.. But FYI I have a headrush pedalboard from that I think I obtain good and dynamic tones.. But I haven't the possibility to compare the pre and Poweramp section of same amp with fractal. In your opinion.. And I'm referring ONLY to amp model.. What are the differences? E intanto.. Like piazzato, bel video
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you! I should do a direct video comparison in order to give you an answer...I can tell you that the fractal has much possibilities to control and adapt your tone, for instance it has the possible to have two microphones, you can select the preamplifier, you have far more amps, and so on.....but maybe I will do a video comparison to clearly explain the difference. If you want more info about me, please drop me an email : Leogibsongtr@gmail.com
@Niksounds
@Niksounds 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr thanks, mail sent
@r.llynch4124
@r.llynch4124 4 жыл бұрын
That's 4100 PLUS 350 for the reactive load ouch! Great amp if you got the cash but my FM3 gets so close its not worth spending 4500 plus I have many other amps to pick from as well in the FM3. If you can pick up a used one for a deal and looking for a tube amp then it might be an option.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@farko63
@farko63 4 жыл бұрын
So curious to watch same comparison between Soldano and Kemper...
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, you are right...I should also do some good profiles of the Soldano....
@farko63
@farko63 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr I was looking just now your comparing...never saw a so accurate analysis of sound : a very good job ! For this only you could do a real compare with kemper. Waiting and hoping to see that on next your video . Thank you so much for share your experience. Take care and greetings from Rome PS Soldano profile could be a sherry on cake....
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you appreciation is really important for me!!! I'm also pretty curious about the Kemper profile...I'm currently working on other two videos ... In this last video comparing the FM3 to the Soldano I was using (finally) some IRs that I made...so I want to share how I made them in a specific video. And I'm also building my own web site to be able to offer these IRs to all of you...Nevertheless, the Kemper Soldano profile is very interesting! Thank you!
@GuitarsAndSynths
@GuitarsAndSynths 3 жыл бұрын
You need a really good power amp and cab with any modeler like the FM3 or it will sound like crap. That costs a lot of money and can get real tube amp for that.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing!
@diabx0r
@diabx0r 3 жыл бұрын
Yep - you can get A tube amp for that kind of money. The FM3 will come with NUMEROUS amp models, and studio quality effects. I'm a tube amp junkie, but after years of pouring through Suhrs, Friedmans, 100s of pedals... I'd rather just have a truck load of amp models and awesome effects in one box. I've got an $850 Suhr 2x12 cab and a power amp that cost me less than $1000. Combined with the FM3, that's around $3000. Most of my tube amp heads ALONE have cost this much - no cab, no effects - just the head.
@John-e4p1x
@John-e4p1x 2 жыл бұрын
What do you have specific to run with FM3?
@EitiKimura
@EitiKimura 4 жыл бұрын
Leo are you using FM3 as áudio interface on this test?
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, actually I'm not. I'm using the xlr out of the FM3. Thank you for your question.
@aviator_bryan
@aviator_bryan 4 жыл бұрын
Did you have a noise gate on the input?
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, as far as I know, in order to turn off the input gate, we should turn its threshold at zero and by default it is at -60. In my tests, even if the gate is set to zero, the fluctuations are still present and they are more evident than the real deal (at least in comparison with my Soldano). Actually with the threshold at zero the fluctuations are even more evident in my opinion. In this test I've reduced the threshold at -80, which in my opinion is the sweet spot... or the best result that I have achieved (still in my opinion, in terms of noise and fluctuations). Thank you for your message!
@stephenpertesis7710
@stephenpertesis7710 Жыл бұрын
I STILL can't tell if the upper mid bump in the modeling units ("honk"), that seems to also mask upper frequency "openness" is a result of aliasing. Axe FX II, for instance, is locked in to run at 48k. We guitarists use massive amounts of saturation as the cornerstone of many tones. Suffice to say, the result would end up being aliasing or smearing of upper frequency content with very steep filters. If modeling companies can figure this out on hardware units, then it might make all the difference. Until then, we cannot know if it is the algorithmic programming or aliasing. Although, as I just said, there's no way that aliasing is NOT a noticeable factor. (I have started using Neural DSP natively in my DAW running at 96k for this reason).
@sylvainbiensur7370
@sylvainbiensur7370 5 ай бұрын
Axe fx does NOT suffer from alliasing at all. They figured out how to remove it a long time ago. It's something else you are hearing.
@jorgemauriciomercado288
@jorgemauriciomercado288 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you do this video again, with those firmware updates I think you’re get closer then this !!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jorge, yes...I think you are right...
@jorgemauriciomercado288
@jorgemauriciomercado288 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr From FW 4 to FW 5 it’s been a massive change !!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they have seen our channel...😀
@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin
@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin 4 жыл бұрын
That’s those harsh highs that made me sell the AxefxIII and keep real amps and Kemper too! Modeling generates a lot of aliasing in each step of modeling, that I can feel in final result as muddy sound, and ear tiring highs. The modulation effect is also annoying. FM3 is a nice tool for beginners but once you’ve tried a real amp you just have too choices = real amps or Kemper, the rest is just not that good.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@gizemkayhan9245
@gizemkayhan9245 3 ай бұрын
Great
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 ай бұрын
Thank you soooo much!!!
@BorostateBlues
@BorostateBlues 3 жыл бұрын
A+
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thenateos
@thenateos 4 жыл бұрын
The FM3 can't emulate the love put on wirering your own specific amp. It still sounds amazing. The FM3 definitely worth the money.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!!!
@Bridging_the_Political_Divide
@Bridging_the_Political_Divide 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@raygodmanMX
@raygodmanMX 3 жыл бұрын
Sound THIS close, plus 299 other amps (also this close or closer), and future software updates to enhance the new Cygnus modeling further + all the Fractal effects.. all for a 1/5 the price of this single head.. FM3 all day here. Complete no brainer.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@Jbeland1
@Jbeland1 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the fm3. Long time amp user here and I hate to say it but the pros of these modelers are starting to outweigh the cons. It’s unbelievable.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the FM3 is an amazing unit...thank you for sharing!
@Bcwilderness
@Bcwilderness 4 жыл бұрын
chips will never compare to tubes and iron, but if all you do is record in a studio at home models will do, but as with mics and pres etc that extra 15 percent on every source adds up to more clarity and separation in a mix, if clearer is better then thats the way
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@zajefajnylogin
@zajefajnylogin 4 жыл бұрын
Soldano vs Kemper please :)
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes this is another video I would like to do...I have so many requests...I hope to be able to do it in the next weeks Thank you for your suggestion!
@zajefajnylogin
@zajefajnylogin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@dyonight
@dyonight 4 жыл бұрын
I always found digital amps sounds congested in the mids. That's why real amps appears more 3D I think. Fractal for live is perfect and a real soldano for the studio with some pedals is the only amp one would ever need. Save those Neve preamps for later and get a real Soldano first :P
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Oliver, thank you for sharing your opinion with us!
@adir_i
@adir_i 3 жыл бұрын
Turn off the noise gate :)
@vtoh1982
@vtoh1982 4 жыл бұрын
se nota el ampli soldano tiene mas cuerpo! diferencia brutal
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@johnbach2380
@johnbach2380 Жыл бұрын
I cant believe a little pedal is doing such a good impression of that giant beast. Haha
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr Жыл бұрын
😀😀👍
@sean7193
@sean7193 4 жыл бұрын
Leo, its only worth it if you have the sort of income that you do :P . You really get a lot of sounds in the FM3 for $999.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
😊...yes, the FM3 is a tone machine...the Soldano is a kind of investment.. and it is really inspiring and well sounding. Thank you for your message!
@pucaccio
@pucaccio 4 жыл бұрын
Are you italian?
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, please drop me an email at leogibsongtr@gmail.com thank you for your message!
@ine_laura
@ine_laura 4 жыл бұрын
hello, IMO not worth the extra money, i think within 10 years from now digital is goiing to match up to analog if not even better, i own a FM3 and also some tube amps, friedman, marchall,.. and to be honest some presets sounds even better than the real thing IMO, poeple who say that analog is always going to be better are poeple who are really shortminded and don't want to explore the digital world, i was one of those people a few years ago, man am i happy i did not stayed sticked on analog, but hey that's just me
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and experience!!
@David-ry9ly
@David-ry9ly 4 жыл бұрын
The SOLDANO is better at being a SOLDANO but the fm3 is close. The fm3 is more versatile. At the end of the day it depends what you can afford. Plus you can sell the fm3 when the fm4 comes out and still get half of your money back. You could also keep the SOLDANO for ten years. But I think that amp modeling will improve a lot in ten years and eventually it could get as good as the real thing which is good news for guitarists. Personally my ears prefer the sounds of real amps. But my wallet and back prefer the price and weight of the fm3.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, thank you for sharing you opinions!
@jazzylei143
@jazzylei143 4 жыл бұрын
Soldano amp is good but i prefer the fm3. 😍🎸😍
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@orbithesun1
@orbithesun1 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer to have the real deal family meal!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@neuralfraud
@neuralfraud Жыл бұрын
The FM3 has too much high end fizz and sounds artifi...wait that's the SLO... The FM3 doesn't have enough high end fizz!
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!
@SAGABIJO2
@SAGABIJO2 2 жыл бұрын
No comparison.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@marcodesimone6163
@marcodesimone6163 3 жыл бұрын
adios valvola
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 3 жыл бұрын
😊👍🏻
@killnoni5032
@killnoni5032 4 жыл бұрын
I really don’t know why but i hate soldanos.
@LeoGibsonGtr
@LeoGibsonGtr 4 жыл бұрын
😊...it's a pitty 😊
@killnoni5032
@killnoni5032 4 жыл бұрын
Leo Gibson i literally don’t like 80’s metal, poison and kiss style hair metal, maybe that’s why i don’t like soldanos sound?? It really doesn’t touch me.
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