Soldiers more dangerous than warriors?

[@History_Coffee]

I deployed with a soldier in my troop that had been stop lossed and had his enlistment involuntarily extended for the deployment. He was at best completely useless and at worst hostile. I could not imagine a whole unit of such soldiers

[@DB-yj3qc]

I know of some of them guys, one who was stop lossed for over a year. He was worse than that, not even deployed. The unit had drug testing, he flat out said he would test hot. So they didn't require him to submit a specimen for the test. He was a M.P. A 100% mandatory testing for one company had a substantial number in the company "piss hot" it wasn't just the E-4s and below. Some of the Officers and senior NCO's too. That was a really busy few weeks in the PMO. They had one heck of a company party, the largest number of people I've seen on A.D. busted for using drugs. I can bet that some former A.D. from a certain post will know what post and year.

[@haraffael7821]

Imagine having a leadership that thinks this is okay.

[@LAHFaust]

What's insane is when I got to a month before my EAS they shoved my ass in a convoy headed to Kandahar then flew me back to the states. We were 2 months into our deployment and it was during the surge. I still don't understand why they didn't just shove me into a POG unit instead.

[@jolanderphilip]

@@DB-yj3qcon deployment the MP’s where the ones doing the most Then one of em ratted on everyone Took some of our guys down, not my ass… nope soon as they brought him round I said “I ain’t smoking with no police”

[@OG-uq9yb]

Yeah but Big Army could never make a mistake right?

[@pyetrezavodchikov911]

I mean, they were told they could go home 3 months ago, I'd be pissed too.

[@abequiner9815]

Plus they vollunteered to fight the south but got sent to Wyoming instead.

[@Edgy01]

It looks like the Army has been doing this for 150 years.

[@Camarobro98]

They have been doing this since its conception

[@FoulWeatherFriend385]

Nahhh. The military would never mistreat its own troops…

[@dudeinadoughboy4327]

Alright, I know we promised 2 weeks of leave before deployment, but fuck that we're going out to the field for a month."

[@uncle_Samssubjects]

​@@Camarobro98wrong the historical record is clear, the American philosophy of individual LIBERTY and JUSTICE for All established by William Penn was around until 1861 when it was replaced by a philosophy of might makes right. A war to free the slaves turned all Americans into slaves. Try picking up an actual history book.

[@Camarobro98]

@uncle_Samssubjects you are too stupid to realize im talking about the army's treatment of it's soldiers

[@pizzafrenzyman]

Thank you for your Volunteer service.

[@SnoozeOnYouTube]

"Not because of the hostile indians in the area" Well I'm fairly certain he definitely didn't send her closer to the hostile indians to feel safer💀

[@MegaGator39]

No one ever said this. Lol.

[@AgressorNation]

An enlistment is an honorable deal between a would be soldier and the military. I agree to be a soldier for X amount of time. During that time I will honor your regs and customs. At the end of that time you will release me. That's how it should work. Keeping anyone longer than agreed, violates that honorable agreement.

[@strategygalactic]

Every enlistment is 8 years.

[@HootOwl513]

@@strategygalactic It was 6 years when I went in -- 12/73. RELAD 13/77. Inactive Standby Reserve until 7/79. Four years active. Two years, and I never had to show up for summer camp or even have my seabag inspected. I went to college on the GI Bill.

[@panelvixen]

We had a few instances of soldiers not getting involuntary extended while in Iraq and Afghanistan. Which meant their pay would stop when they hit their ETS date. They brought it up to their sergeants and officers and were pretty much blown off. So the soldiers took matters into their own hands. They called personnel and the I.G. The problem was promptly fixed.

[@brentbrumagin9728]

Your kit looks great- spot on. Love the content. Most people only think about the war in the East. Thank you for bringing a Western perspective. Great work.

[@daleslover2771]

👍 👍 👍

[@christianfreedom-seeker2025]

Keep in mind this was during the "we are losing" phase of the Indian Wars. General Sheridan helped turn things around.

[@GlennDuke-yc5ky]

I think many of those guys were rowdy to begin with. And it was difficult.

[@trainknut]

“How disciplined were western troops” They technically had to follow the law… if a lawman was around

[@rjohnson1690]

The soldier in the original photo is one of the California volunteers in the 2nd Massachusetts Cavalry.

[@TheMidwesternViking]

As a Midwesterner, we may be patriotic...but dont screw us over...we won't forget and we'll get rowdy when mistreated.

[@RodrigoCen7456]

Pretty sure that's just basic human nature

[@wadedog4280]

Thanks for creating content

[@thekingofhistory4360]

Let this be a lesson honor your contracts.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

Tell that to uncle Sam the bastard will stand you up any time any place when your number is supposed to come up

[@slyllamademon2652]

That’s weird too because the volunteer units are usually better trained than the draftees.

[@jesseh.5223]

Great historically accurate detail how you don't button the lower buttons!

[@sandpounder3443]

That’s a beautiful shell jacket, who made it?

[@Elk6903]

NJ Sekela

[@burrellbikes4969]

Perhaps many of those who’s enlistment had lapsed, didn’t leave is because they didn’t like the idea of traveling alone or in a small group in potentially hostile Native American territory - where many of the forts were located.

[@albow4oops5]

is yhis guy going to act like he doesn't look exactly like Mathew Broderick in Glory?

[@Waynebruce234]

If you’ve been to fort Laramie, you can understand why these men were indisciplined.

[@USSResolute]

Your title is misleading. This is a commentary only on as yet undischarged troops kept beyond the expectation of release. That does not bespeak what you claim this clip discusses.

[@whereisthebalance5732]

What the musket sling in that photo attached to?

[@gatorbite3351]

Soldiers fight because they are told to. Warriors fight for what they want to.

[@BestFriendOfJesus]

God bless

[@sonsofliberty75]

How can I take you seriously, when you can’t even find a soldier’s jacket that fits?

[@RedbeardJack]

Title is misleading. This has nothing to do with how dangerous they are in combat but rather their conduct outside of battle. A Warrior is still far more dangerous than an enlisted soldier, by many times over.

[@Torquiljm611]

A few months later they sent confederate POWs who were enlisted in the union in exchange for their freedom to ft Laramie.

[@ryanmichael1298]

The soldiers from Ohio were good.

[@Stylus-ms4cv]

Yeah G.I.s can become restless

[@tomweaverling1366]

Awesome impression! I miss the hobby at times.

[@TroyJenkins-m9k]

Sounds like a lot of fun... Kinda like being at sea When the story is We staying and a storm is coming Soon Real Soon

[@MichaelCapps-b2d]

But why do you look exactly like the picture tho?

[@KaustubhThakurJhangta]

The only valid question to ask!

[@BIGBEAR99-t8s]

That's what happens when you hold ppl past enlistment ..cant blame them

[@svenneff]

Why is half of his blouse unbuttoned? Is this to keep cool, why not the top half?

[@Mike-tw1pi]

Checkmate, Lincolnites!!

[@jill-ti7oe]

Thumb's up.

[@thelorriesweeneyable]

Ohhh yeah. Normal

[@chrisbolland5634]

And these were the men commiting the genocide.

[@lightofathousand]

Sounds familiar.

[@YakimaBob]

Zero on specifics

[@Twsuf1]

Hostile Indians? You stole their land!

[@sambrian5052]

Robert shaw

[@tovarishlumberjack2356]

Aren’t soldiers and warriors the same

[@MegaGator39]

Literally this never happened. But. Ok.

[@henrikgustafsson6385]

Easy fix; double payment. Want to go? Fine, here is your payment and oh, that gun and side-arm belongs to the government of the USA... hand it over, and you are free to brave the Journey back, through hostile indian territory. No escort back to de-armament station. You did not want to stay anymore you said.

[@joerogers6043]

Western?

[@ShuiKiCheung-v5z]

不讀軍校不知道軍紀？志願者都要金錢食飯？Not studying in military school don't know the word of discipline? Volunteer need money and a living?

[@JeffEbe-te2xs]

Undisciplined

[@dparryd]

Not very

[@jonathanwilliams1065]

Yeah that sounds like the Yankees as a whole Their actions are still remembered in the South

[@dcs5343]

Very true!

[@joanedwards7829]

​@@dcs5343Agree!

[@1980bwc]

Those boys in blue were so rowdy, because they were humiliated that it took them 4 long years to get their enemy to surrender. An enemy who had an army, that was a fraction the size of theirs, and on paper, was inferior to them in every aspect of war. So yeah, they had every right to get rowdy and want to vent their frustrations with each other. They sure as heck didnt want any more heat from those boys in gray ever again. Even though by 1865, those southern boys were sacks of bones. So malnourished and exhausted, they looked like a strong breeze could have blown them over. Still, the boys in blue couldnt whip them. The only things those southern boys got whipped by, was hunger and disease. If by some miracle, enough nutritious food, and a gallon jug of clean water fell from the sky, for every single Confederate soldier to have a couple decent meals, and a few hours of rest, they would have jumped on those trespassing invaders again, and given them plenty more! 😂

[@dcs5343]

Never did whip their spirits though. They were ready to keep fighting. And that spirit is still alive and strong today. Had the numbers been even, nobody on earth could deny that the South would have won.

[@82ismi]

​@@dcs5343 The number could have been more on the even side counting all the slaves. But hey, without slavery no war. Just to be proud of fighting for a rich slaveowner aristocracy, even if you don't even owned slaves, was plainly stupid.

[@82ismi]

😂 The North fought the war with one hand bound on the back. The south had nothing to win in the long run. Talking about the fighting spirits of all these Rebell deserters... There are some guys who want to fight anytime, no surprise, since the secession was an extremist movement.

[@dcs5343]

@@82ismi you know zero about the war if you think the North won with a hand behind their back. Most people, even Lincoln, thought that by 1874 that the South was going to win. People in the North were ready for it to be over and were willing to negotiate for peace.

[@Pelham1538]

We’d be a better world if the Yankees would’ve let us leave.

[@marianovaliente2103]

Callate rebelde!!!..

[@willkiecana3413]

Bro are you actually hung up on the civil war? Some shit you’ve only heard about in books and the history channel?😭

[@67icebowl]

It's not too late to secede. Pretty sure nobody in the North would be sad to see them go.

[@Sgtvalentini]

​@willkiecana3413 I wish we never fought the civil war, or Spain, or Germany

[@willkiecana3413]

@@Sgtvalentini honestly I’m wondering why you have regret over events that happened before you were born. Do you just like those countries or what?

[@marksheen4873]

Reenactors being massively overweight is so annoying

[@Whisker_Fish]

Fuck you they have real lives outside of reenactment.

[@huns12345]

I get it,the people didn't understand yankees and were starting to be scared of noise cause they were used to being quiet,understood,if the story is true