Soldiers' Stories Northern Ireland 7

[@banjodeano2202]

Thanks for taking the time to upload the series Leroy, i really enjoyed that, such a sad sad sad affair, there are no winners only losers, hopefully the violence will never return

[@yorel69]

Appreciated

[@martinmcmanus2815]

Yeah the wil use supreme intelligence to murder unarmed catholic... Thats all horseshit who whats to live in a prison with 60 feet walls to sperate themselves from irish people

[@andrewruddy962]

Leroy thank you for posting all the videos. A special thanks to the soldiers who shared their experiences.

[@yorel69]

My pleasure. Thanks for your direct response. Appreciated.

[@rodgeyd6728]

Excellent series, fingers crossed for everlasting peace.

[@rubydawn1]

How Thatcher could let Bobby Sands was actually shocking I will never forget Bobby s mother walking out of the prison after speaking to her son for the last time it was heartbreaking

[@JohnSmith-be1vl]

Well, he was hardly an innocent and what the IRA did was usually far worse than a callous government allowing someone to follow through with something they chose to do to himself.

[@user-bh9sy1xi6t]

It will never be over

[@frankcostello1948]

very eye opening to hear it from a British soldiers point of view.

[@harryflashman6828]

Thank you for posting. I thought Ken Hames was a great presenter for this documentary. 10/10.

[@keithpringle3940]

Hardy barsteward ken hames! He used to run the senior Brecon course for platoon sgts, he'd run the mountains for fun before starting work and doing it all again!!

[@Meiyah]

Thanks for uploading :).

[@fredohara3693]

The troubles erupted in 1969 from real grievances and systemic wrongs within Northern Ireland. Through the peace process those issues have, to a very large extent been addressed. Should violence re-commence, it will not be able to gain anything like the support paramilitaries were able to garner during the recent troubles. Therefore I believe there is cause for great hope, and even expectation that, not only will the troubles not return, but Northern Ireland will improve and grow into a better, and more peaceful society. It was a political problem The solution was, and still is, political. I believe there is real cause for optimism.

[@blackwolf1066]

I hope you are right

[@PsilocybinCocktail]

This is one of the most sensible and measured comments I have read on this thread. It is also 3 years old, and both the Continuity and Real IRA are today utterly irrelevancies, so - hopefully! - Fred was right.

[@blackirishrose4040]

Point beautifully taken

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

The troubles actually started during 1968...I was there at the time and grew up with them. Yes it is political but even granting unification will never quench the inbred hatred of the English for the partitioning if the North by their great great grandfathers. We will never be allowed to forget, yet as with all things there is two sides to the story. Operation Banner was purely to prevent full scale civil war and despite the violence of the worst days during the 1970's and 80's there's no doubt that 1000's of lives were saved. It will take many more years for the fragile peace to grow but anyone who thinks it could never return to the dark days ckearly doesn't understand the position enough. There are those in the South who will never stop trying to reignite the troubles both politically and physically. The North wants peace but the South will never stop in it's claim. The North will always need support and should be treated with great care and dignity to allow peace to evolve more fully.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@ReferenceFidelityComponents did you read the gfa

[@NottMacRuairi]

thanks you intelligent fellow.

[@secretintelligenceservice8902]

Breaks my heart. And to think if there was another war I’d have to join. It’s sad

[@shlomomark2275]

Very interesting documentary, as an Israeli citizen it looks both familiar and different

[@JohnSmith-be1vl]

Not a surprise that Palestinian terrorists and IRA scum had dealings.

[@johnmillikin1382]

Part 6?

[@olliephelan]

In 1922 the British government issued the first ever pump action shotgun at cost price to ANY protestant male that would take one . They were sent straight from the manufacturer to the protestants for about 2 shillings . My grandfather (irish free state police sargent ) got one through a contact . They were for CROWD CONTROL . When people take up arms like that then theres something BADLY wrong with the system . And it was a BRITISH system

[@stanleywoodison8699]

ancient fucking history...

[@petertwiss4215]

@@stanleywoodison8699 Indeed. it's 2020 and the same right to civilian arms exists in the USA today. Bugs me when people are living in the past!

[@olliephelan]

@@martinmcmanus2815 Ancient history ? Things only started to change in 1998 !!!! And its still not stable. Thats not ancient history

[@olliephelan]

@@petertwiss4215 A right that was made for the 18th century ? "living in the past" ?

[@olliephelan]

@@martinmcmanus2815 None of the recent fighting has anything to do with "800 years". The war in N.I. was about a Failed State. Not normans. Nobody is talking about 800 years. Theres more than just shouting. Unity could happen quite soon , and anyone who thinks that transition will be peaceful hasnt been paying attention.

[@Killa026]

Sad to think there were no parades and no thanks, British soldiers made a difference in Northern Ireland in the 40 years they were there Northern Ireland is in a better shape today even though there is a small threat than when they first flew in in 1969.

[@Killa026]

condaly No point being a big man calling names both sides lost lives during the conflict, what about the soldiers who lost their lives during the conflict as well it came from both sides but when those soldiers came in 1969-2007 Northern Ireland has been left in a far better place.

[@condaly]

Arron LUFC McC Yeah you keep believing that.

[@brendanw45]

Arron LUFC McC You so called army were nothing more than paid thugs - all big men armed to the teeth terrorising the natives - now you're doing great things in Iraq.

[@Killa026]

And what were the IRA? bombing and terrorising innocent people Enniskillen and Omagh to name a few

[@brendanw45]

Arron LUFC McC Two simple points - The IRA are in their own country and are a logical response to British interference and oppression, whereas the British kill, on a massive scale, for nothing, always in someone elses' country. Do you see the common denominator? The number of IRA victims, since their inception, has been absolutely miniscule when compared to the millions Britain has sent to an early grave - your noble 'war' in Iraq being just the latest example.

[@Mulberry2000]

Very interesting documentary

[@EmmaArtBitsAndBobs]

Can I ask what date this documentary was produced?

[@alastairwest5200]

Queens Lancs were awesome...

[@user-bh9sy1xi6t]

The troubles will never be over .I served two yrs

[@BIGINSF]

@Angus1966 are you Andrew C?

[@catpainblackudder01]

Every time the English tried to solve the Irish question, the Irish changed the question.......

[@patglennon9671]

Do explain?

[@catpainblackudder01]

@@patglennon9671 No explanation needed, you have a computer, use it.......

[@patglennon9671]

Is it too difficult for you to articulate?

[@catpainblackudder01]

@@patglennon9671 Do you not know how to use google?

[@patglennon9671]

@@catpainblackudder01 lame

[@yorel69]

I am not to sure to be honest but i can tell you that i am in one of the 7 clips & that clip was filmed by the BBC in 1982.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

I'm sure you thought northern Ireland was an enigma I'm 40 and still don't understand it lol

[@mortallious1234]

The music was quality.

[@cmorgan6493]

Where is part 6, m8? :)

[@Sarrienne]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6eQeapjltihac0

[@nialldoyle3771]

Can't believe Willie fraser is in this. What an absolute balloon. I'm not sectarian or extreme in any sense but even today his provocative rants are causing trouble here today. There are just as much good unionist protestants who contribute to society as there are republicans. And on both sides I have seen hatred and bigotry, he is one of the people egging on further conflict.

[@Irishandream1]

Hes all mouth and no action...no wonder we take the piss out of him 😂

[@lucaplayzrobloxyt7846]

there is hope after all....have to say

[@neasacoyne2706]

The best thing to do with Mr Fraser is ignore him. Let him rant his bigoted nonsense. He is only fooling himself.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

"what ya say ya slabber!" Always laughed at that Willie video... complete clown... definition of a siege mentality

[@lancegoodthrust546]

I just finished this series. Great upload. And I don't want to comes off as an asshole but there was no interview from the other side, the IRA. Which I was curious to see that point of view. Having said that, I do believe these soldiers were geniune and did their duty.

[@caractacus6231]

it was a Soldiers Stories

[@birmanets]

Heres the easiest way to understand it from an IRA point of view. If Ireland invaded England and held 6 counties under armed force calling it the United Kingdom of Ireland and Northern England. Would we expect to be welcomed by locals if we paraded around in Leeds/Manchester in uniform and machine guns and set up checkpoints???? We fan out into the streets of Newcastle and shoot 13 civilians. Would we expect that locals might be a bit pissed off and say go home Paddy. Leave us be. I wouldn't be that shocked if that was the reaction.

[@leod-sigefast]

Try Peter Taylor's 'Provos'. It is a bit old now, 1997, but it is a good insight into the IRA.

[@Apaganplace]

I think ul find that on the shankill or the Village or east Belfast you will find protestant only schools and protestant only communities that goes for all of the six counties , is that discrimination by default ??????

[@blackwolf1066]

It cut both ways! Just get on live life and enjoy peace because the way our planet is going you want need worry about the troubles.

[@richardrich1384]

But they don't openly discriminate you don't have to prove your a Protestant to go to the School plus the learning isn't religiously directed like in Catholic schools were you have nuns.Saying all that God help a Catholic child that went to a school there.

[@declanrussell2232]

Interesting little watch. I do feel sorry for the young men that got hurt in what really was a foreign problem. Some noticeable avoidances of the truth though like internment and Bloody Sunday. That’s from an Englishman.

[@declanrussell2232]

Against the wishes of the majority of the people of Ireland.

[@pauldunneska]

@@declanrussell2232 Very true the vast majority in Ireland's 32 counties voted for British withdrawal from all of Ireland's 32 counties in 1918. Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@patrickwalsh6873]

@J Bab It's a different planet.

[@garethoneill5676]

This documentary was in several parts and those two subjects were covered in what little time they had to cover the whole conflict.

[@johndriscoll157]

@@pauldunneska The day when an all-Ireland political entity exists will surely come. But, it will never be achieved without winning the hearts and minds of Unionists (both Protestant and Catholic). The use of political slogans which fly in the face of unionist opinion is self-defeating, as it creates a more hard line attitude on their part and hinders any possible progress towards Irish unity. British military withdrawal will follow, the presence of people who consider themselves British in Ireland will continue, they have to have a change of heart about where their political allegiance lies. A strong economy in Ireland, which could possibly be enhanced by the inclusion of the six counties, coupled with the Brexit fiasco, may turn out to be a major driving force towards unification.

[@cw7546]

Green Howard over there mid 80s

[@andrewmore8702]

And us armoured farmers...Janners.

[@gerrardnum8]

How would the troubles have stopped? Basically the British Army where the meat between Catholics and Protestants.. May N.Ireland stay peaceful.

[@TristanMorrow2002]

terrorists cannot be appeased with. Well said

[@jackietreehorn5561]

They were

[@ralphmarx7554]

@kharte29 the trouble brought the british soldiers in N.I in the first place!

[@gh2568]

Great series thanks for uploading. My dad served here in The Royal Artillery.

[@Sarrienne]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6eQeapjltihac0

[@StuMcD1989]

Aslong a there's religion, the troubles worldwide will never be over

[@oggybennett7764]

cmon were not all bad are we????

[@JohnMcLeanbilldoesjudo]

Last two sentences a pile of

[@wayneplace9343]

Do Muslims live in Ireland?

[@vividexstance]

Beware the risen people, Beware, those who will take what you would not give.

[@Apaganplace]

I think you really need to know way the troubles started in the first place . The word democracy really comes to mind here, there was only one it was a Protestant Democracy , look up way the civil rights movement started in the first place . the IRA were finished in the late 60s they arose out of the burning of Bombay st by Protestants who didnt want Catholics to have the same rights as they did .... thats a fact

[@latexcitizenx]

Protestantism is the keystone of democracy. You utter fool.

[@Bishbashboshboshbosh]

Yawn

[@shamrockshoredublin179]

Interesting the question now is should they be accountable for there actions while serving

[@conorgilsenan3821]

Derry girls 😂

[@phoenix1916]

Major Fail having Wullie Frazer commenting a leading UVF figure ha ha ha, get that rag down wullie!

[@terryroberts4321]

I LIVE IN THE UK I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE ORANGE MARCH .IT SHOULD BE STOPPED

[@ivanwilson4853]

Keep your clueless opinions to yourself

[@terryroberts4321]

@@ivanwilson4853 Enlighten me them .

[@09weenic]

@@terryroberts4321 aye shut up it’s a free country they can do what they like as long as it’s within the law 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@jackietreehorn5561]

Well said terry! Tell it as it is

[@johncarroll6577]

NO IT WILL NOT LAST

[@nashcars100]

what about bloody sunday people were shot dead for no reason i have seen the brits give there comments on this i live in derry all my life can you tell me why they were shot down in cold blood unarmed

[@gruntymchunchy1527]

Better hope there is no Brexit Borders.

[@olliephelan]

wow, your full of anger . youd fit right in up north. Im telling ye , its a fact When the treaty was signed (1922) the northern protestants thought theyd be abondoned . The British needed to keep the north for stretegic reasons (atlantic land bridge) , so they sent arms to every protestant who was willing to use them. Over 100,000 catholics fled south. Since 1916 the northern protestants have had a seige mentality Since the peace process sectarian attacks have quadrupled

[@seandobson499]

I served with the Royal Artillery in Londonderry and Belfast and for those who were not there and slept in clean sheets every night and post comments saying that some of those soldiers telling their stories are bullshiting,all I can say is everything shown here reflects my own time there,you could die very quickly in Northern Ireland if you did not keep your wits about you and that was not that easy when you did 20 hours a day. I have a photograph taken in Londonderry when I was 21 and I looked years older,I saw friends killed and maimed,was shot at,stoned,petrol bombed and spat at. I lost count of how many car bombs went of because it was such a regular occurrence,shots from all kinds of weapons were the soundtrack of our lives and we could tell how far away the shots were and what kind of weapon they were fired from as the sound from a high velocity weapon is very different from a pistol or machine gun. I was in Londonderry in 1976 when the Bogside went up in flames,most of the buses were set on fire,shops and houses were burn-out and three days of none-stop rioting,looting and carnage took place and soldiers were shipped in to reinforce us and we were under none-stop attack,that is how I spent my 21st Birthday. The rules of engagement were so strict that I,along with most soldiers in Northern Ireland never fired a single live round although I have fired baton rounds. Northern Ireland,especially in the early 70's was a brutal,bloody place and you grew-up and learned fast if you wanted to stay alive. I saw some ex-soldiers on the final episode going back to Northern Ireland but I would not go back if I was paid a million pounds,I had my fill of it in uniform.

[@billdog1537]

from the sound of your experience it was awful,for both sides ..which i am from a nationalist side.. you are not in uniform now..come to belfast. you will see this amazing place.from what it has went through to what it is today, it is the most most welcoming place. people are amazing, bars hotels amazing . dont judge it on the dark past, in which you have seen and experienced. come see and experience for yourself. ... even to do a tour of both sides and itl be n eye opener for you on how much we he got over the dark days and how belfast will grow to be as one of the most cosmopolitan cities in europe. you will thank me,

[@seandobson499]

@@billdog1537Thanks,Mathew but the memories are so deep that I would not feel safe or comfortable but I sincerely hope that those dark days never return and that nobody ever has to go through such things ever again and that Northern Ireland prospers.

[@birmanets]

I feel sorry for ordinary British soldiers who died or were maimed but they some of them were not as innocent as made out in these documentaries. They murdered civilians and colluded with loyalist terrorists but they also showed great restraint in some situations. I believe no side was right in this conflict. Northern Ireland is fucked up and always will be. Ordinary people paid the price for what happened in the 1600s. Even bank robbers who decided to rob a bookies and were mistaken for being IRA were machine gunned down in cold blood didn't deserve such a death. God help all those who suffered. Its was a sad time that nobody wants to see return. I hope Brexit doesn't mess things up again.

[@JohnSmith-be1vl]

Some indeed did commit war crimes and colluded with Ulster terror organisations but most did not... on the other hand, every single IRA member was complicit in inhuman and disgraceful terror campaigns.

[@johnmoffatt6592]

No🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@MattMetalMayho]

I feel sorry for all those innocent Irish civilians who died because the IRA toss pots wouldn't grow up and use democracy rather than violence. How can you bomb a shop and shoot the owner and be a freedom fighter? I hope that if it dose kick off again they do come to their senses and use words instead!

[@f.dmcintyre4666]

You ever listened to Icke on this topic? The elites stirring it up for their own benefit...…..

[@keith6502]

hun"s on the run

[@caractacus6231]

most British people would be glad glad to see Ulster go somewhere..all the soldiers i worked with in police despised all the inhabitants equally

[@panchonuts7059]

Bobbie Sands still dead!!!

[@nashcars100]

sorry former parra trooper who shot them people explain what the this yellow card is

[@andrewmore8702]

It's made of a very light cardboard and is yellow. Fits in your top left combat pocket. It has a list of things you can't do when you enter an Irish pub.

[@jakhaughton1800]

Religions live in the distant past. The Irish troubles will continue one day.

[@Ridge652]

Ireland unfree shall never be at peace,,, TAL

[@leod-sigefast]

Britain made Ireland.

[@3RFi]

And let the guns sound soon

[@importantname]

it was a draw - a very costly and ugly war that went quiet for a while, til the next round.

[@thomasconc]

Remembering my childhood there, British soldiers were cruel, callous, frequently sought opportunities to beat or fire on us kids who were anti Army (I was 6 or 7 at the time, Catholic in Andy Town, just copying the older kids)... and and an instrument of oppression. I feel that that is sad, as someone who served in the Australian Army, with many generations of Irish people who served in the British army am so disappointed with those who got carried away and took their emotional outrage out on innocent unarmed civilians. Such a sad thing that being a catholic in Belfast meant a death sentence or years in an H block without a crime or a court... glad it is much better today but that does NOT make those days OK... All that said this is not to mean an British soldier serving at HM requirements who did their duty is in any way at fault, just when they go over the lines or exceed their rules of engagement are they beyond the pale (as I know personally from other OS service in later years).

[@andrewmore8702]

Let me paraphrase for you...I was a wee little shite from a catholic background who hated the British then and still hate them now.....Am I close? I used a lot less words then your waffaling.... Here is something you may not know. When we lost a soldier in 83 from my unit we received more letters of condolence from catholics than protestants. Most of the Catholics were saying that the IRA did not operate on their behalf. You see most catholic businesses were paying protection money etc...and under threat themselves from the IRA>

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@andrewmore8702 man was only stating his opinion..don't get butt hurt

[@JohnSmith-be1vl]

@@jackietreehorn5561 Just the usual weird propaganda from pro-IRA fantasists.

[@NottMacRuairi]

This is an extremely partisan film and only gives one side of story. It depicts the British Army as somehow being the peacekeepers and ignores the numerous murders of innocent civilians they committed. If the British Army had done their job properly from the start the Troubles would probably have been over by the mid 70s but instead they dragged out for two more decades.

[@caractacus6231]

well its called Soldiers Stories not Stories of the Troubles? As to how many civilians the army killed? Actually most of the people i met who served in Ulster equally disliked all Ulster people

[@andrewmore8702]

@@caractacus6231 I agree, couldn't care less if they were prot or cath.

[@hoopenhanger]

The peace will last and eventually Britain will leave Ireland for good. God speed.

[@mmmohhh8567]

hoopenhanger

[@leod-sigefast]

If the people will it and vote for it, then yes it will happen. Britain always said the people will decide their future. Can't argue with that. Certainly more rights than the Basques or Catalans ever got from the Spanish government.

[@lucaplayzrobloxyt7846]

of course but when they changed the demography for generations it was never going to lead to a majority for a united ireland..Dont treat us like fools...and dont compare to Spain..it's a problem formed by british foreign policy

[@caractacus6231]

@@lucaplayzrobloxyt7846 How is that different to Spain and why do you object..cos the Catalans in some ways are right wing narrow nationalists?

[@danielw5850]

@@lucaplayzrobloxyt7846 This partisan comment is soooo out-of-date!

[@MuckSake]

Nice series, pretty biased from the narrator though. Bet you the BBC produced this lol.

[@slewy6351]

It's soldier stories... They're telling it from their point of view you fucking moron...

[@danielkennedy6885]

Yeah but still you would think someone would have said to the soldiers lads do you actually think anyone is going to believe this

[@blackwolf1066]

It is true do you think any British Soldiers wanted to be there? What the hell were they fighting for? Oh I went to Newry not that long ago and a friend showed me the IRA house huge houses on farmland full of security. Those IRA Bastards didn't just blow up innocent people they used intimidation fleecing protection money. Do you think it was so wonderful for any normal person whether Catholic or Protestant, wondering if you were going to be blown up any minute. Oh so funny isn't it!

[@paddymac5161]

Nice bit of british properganda.

[@leod-sigefast]

Makes a change to the Fenian propaganda with its massive USA-Irish wing to support it.

[@garethoneill5676]

Probably too many raw details about people you believed to be 'freedom fighters' then?

[@tomkbullybully]

That’s funny Paddy, it didn’t mention much of the IRA bombing kids and innocent people. So I fail to see how it’s British Propaganda, you fucking idiot.

[@Stevenbfg]

@@tomkbullybully Also failed to mention the Brits collaboration with the loyalist terrorists which you constantly sweep under the rug. Make no mistake, its propaganda.

[@JohnSmith-be1vl]

@@Stevenbfg Most "Brits" didn't collaborate with Loyalist terrorists... all IRA members were complicit in terror campaigns. MASSIVE difference.

[@IRISHandProud23]

Y dont we have the people of belfast tell us instead of these dust rags.

[@blackwolf1066]

There are plenty of people from Belfast who have shown programs. Try finding some?

[@Apaganplace]

your going way of the mark here, the root cause of the troubles is the British full fuckin stop ...

[@andrewmore8702]

So why did you add a further 3 full stops?

[@SeanMcConeghy]

It's flat shocking that there was not a single mention in here of loyalist terror organizations.... well, except for the 'security' forces.

[@bryanfrombuffalo7685]

Must be british propaganda