"Talking to the Enemy" Major Troubles Documentary 1994

[@martincameron2907]

God changed times eh. Last summer me and my wife went from Scotland to Ireland for a weeks visit on the way to Galway. We stopped in South Armagh Crossmaglen. My wife is American and didn’t know much about the troubles and she thought it just looked like another wee Irish town and I was like once upon a time this was an absolute Warzone here., but you’d never tell by looking at it now.

[@0ate5y]

Good to see

[@numbnutz7832]

XMG was a PITA. GOLF TOWERS, couldn’t even get a beer in Shorts bar😂😂😂 and the chippy wouldn’t serve us too. 😂😂😂

[@Willsey]

I agree. I went last year. Lovely quiet small town. Cant believe it’s the same place.

[@desmcharris]

Dermi was my class mate. And a friend. I was in class with him at the CBS, when the Christian Brother, sneared at the death of 4 Volunteers who had just died that morning. One of them was Dermots brother. He tore out of the class, I shouted at the Brother and got strapped. I can't get over watching Dermot here.

[@binflynn1]

Fantastic footage great interview with Dermot, a good lenadooner , we all grew up in this whole soup if you call it , but it’s great to see peace , but it’s true the English hadn’t a clue what was going on

[@burthectorcummings6732]

the engish dont know their asses from their elbows

[@ATLmodK]

The McShane family breaks my heart.💔

[@michaelthompson-li7zs]

❤

[@chanratt]

I’ve been binging on this channel for days now. I was born in Lisburn in 1970 and left NI in 2000. Watching all of this brings back strange emotions. I don’t know how to describe them but my childhood was basically growing up in a catholic family in Lisburn. I never picked sides and all my mates were Protestant. So we were all mixed, but all these years later you realize how much you were affected by this. It goes very deep and sometimes it will come up and put me in a strange mood. Thank god my wife is a therapist😂

[@scottyb5039]

I'm from Lisburn. It's a shit hole now

[@chanratt]

@@scottyb5039 I’ve heard hard drugs have made their way in. Where in Lisburn? I grew up on the low road.

[@scottyb5039]

@@chanratt madness. I'm from low road

[@chanratt]

@@scottyb5039 no way! I grew up in barley hill. Low road was tough for a catholic growing up, more so the glen more lads. They were a bitter bunch, but then some boys that lived on the low road too. I don’t want to mention any names but there were a lot of UDA there. My mother got beaten up in the Hilden Inn by these big tough men. I knew personally a couple of Catholics who were murdered from there too, and I know who did it. The 80s were tough. Hill hall was also a rough place and sometimes they’d come across the blue bridge and start trouble. Me and my mates were all metallers and tried to stay out of it but no matter how much you tried trouble still found you. During the Anglo Irish agreement riots we had wet blankets and fire extinguishers all over the house. We were 100% expecting to get burnt out but there were a lot of men in my family and we all lived next door ext and the cowards were always too afraid to come up our culdesac. Having said all this, I had the perfect childhood playing down by the Lagan and over the fields by ballynaskea and that area. My mates and I never cared who or what anyone was. We just got on with it and though everyone who would hate you for religion were fucxiing losers and thickos.

[@scottyb5039]

@@chanratt I agree with you 💯. Did you know Jackie Thompson?

[@caseychaos5216]

Went back to Belfast this year what a change now full of immigrants

[@KimJong-101]

They prefer being called Ulster Scots

[@markscollins3920]

@@KimJong-101 was just going to say something similar.👍👏👏👏

[@stephenholmes1036]

We were frightened to go into the North on white number plates, So very rarely did

[@Irishtinian494]

"All because the lady loves , milk tray" Vol.dermot finnucane.😅

[@MartinMcclymont]

I grew up in Glasgow Scotland and my mother was born in East Belfast, I grew up with both Catholics and Protestants , 1 time when I was 17 years old me my mum and brother we were visting family in Belfast, - I was at a house party the RUC came and I was taken to Castlereagh holding centre with people who were at the party and I was in Castlereagh for 1 week and tortured, my teeth broken I WASNT EVEN PART OF ANY PARAMILITARIES,

[@irishboer7124]

You should sue them.

[@cantbanme8971]

They didn't notice you had a Scottish accent?

[@anonymous-jt8du]

I call bs 😂

[@j15mrk]

Things that never happened part 1

[@geoff64709]

Ye talking total bollocks

[@edwardodonnell6857]

Remember when the provos attacked Downing Street using pipe mortar bombs plus high explosives.I was in the West End and the building I was in shook think it was the mid 90s they launched the bombs from the back of a van with only half a roof.

[@irishboer7124]

Lol, I was in Central London too that day, it didn't bother me, but then I grew up in Belfast in the bad old days.

[@Irishtinian494]

I sure do. 😊

[@gtothet9276]

dont suppose we can move on from past horrors and just make what we have the best we can? look at the rest of the world. if we cant get it right here were all fucked.

[@pmac792]

Easy to forget how it was here not that long ago. Crazy times. Thank you for these videos.

[@jackoshea7668]

Forgive and forget, it was all bullshit

[@peterfalkner4436]

SLR 7.62 just like the AK unforgiving

[@Niala8419]

An awful lot of tripe being discussed here about people claiming they are in love. Out of all the people in the world you love someone from the same tiny country 🤨. It's a choice they've made, but they claim it's some 'no choice higher pursuit.' Open and shut case of folie à deux.

[@Sean-sn9ld]

Another great documentary, fair play to ya ATL

[@ATroubledLand]

ta chum

[@Jazzjasey]

Is johnny Adair gay?

[@TheScouseassassin]

Well obviously, mind you I wouldn't say it to his face!

[@ardri31]

Johnny mad dog adair Woof woof hes a poof

[@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis]

Probably

[@kevinodoyle7429]

He's bisexual! He's slept with men and women which is widely known in the North of Ireland.

[@kevinodoyle7429]

​​@@TheScouseassassin why wouldn't you say that to his face when he openly admitted it? Also why would you be scared of him? He's not as hard as the media makes out evil yes 100% but more of a bully than hard and that is from first hand experience.

[@noka1979]

Such a sin on that family in Dublin❤

[@hughcampbell463]

Surly in this day and age a split country should be handed back to there rightful owners one land one country one day may god make it so that Ireland can live together as one in peace 🙏🇮🇪☘️

[@numbnutz7832]

Mohamed is now the no.1 name in Ireland. 😂

[@8ballphil150]

so many memories of Crossmaglen and Bessbrook in the 70s . such beautiful areas , but so bloody scary . big mistakes back in 1921 . we should have given it all back . CYMRY AM BYTH .

[@williambeck1574]

TIOCFAIDH AR LA 🇮🇪

[@JOsc4-v]

All back? What are you talking about? *Cymru?

[@8ballphil150]

@@JOsc4-v Yes , all back . Why give 3 quarters back and keep the rest ?. If it had been done then , i think it would have been accepted . No chance now . I served in NI . Welsh Guards . Hence the CYMRU AM BYTH .

[@overlook237]

No self respecting Provo would wear that cardigan...

[@slowdivebreeze1]

I think most people in England & Wales wouldn’t care if Ireland was United, unsure if that opinion would hold in Scotland though. Also, I wonder what the percentage of southern Irish people would welcome N Ireland into a United country.

[@michaelcollins1211]

100% of us would ..silly question

[@peaceformula5830]

​@@michaelcollins1211It's not though. Because of the financial burden of dole scum and other spongers it would entail. NI costs Westminster billions each year.

[@TeddyBear-ii4yc]

Eire will be re-united in time. The Nationalists got more from the peace process and it's on the cards. There'll be reports & briefing documents in Whitehall about this and the big give-away, imho, was Brexit and putting the border in the Irish Sea. It'll come... the British is divesting itself of all it's troublesome colonies.

[@dobman2011]

betweeb 65 and 75 according to most of the polls.

[@MaryRose-d9x]

There was int 1

[@philiptummon8416]

Your father fought for what he believed in....so did the north of Ireland

[@jody1367]

Don't forget about 17 year old Shane McArdle murdered alongside Gavin by cowards.

[@Irishmush]

Don't forget Bobby sands and comrades who died for the FREEDOM OF EIRE. 🇮🇪 .

[@w204mikull]

@@garysmooth2189 Your eyes are looking a little pinned there lad.

[@bobmathews9072]

​@@IrishmushHe'd be spinning in his grave if he could see Ireland now , what a waste

[@grandadgamer8390]

I've always been detested by Loyalists. They would even make the old school Brit reprisal apologists blush. Fascist scum bags. The Engilsh don't want them as they are far too much if an embarrassing legacy, and ad for the Irish, well I think they would rather it be an English problem 😂 Just give them free booze, copious Union Jack's, and a few drums, but God knows where u will put them all. Not in England please 😊 Never mind, Enoch Powell may come back to guide the the promised land

[@josephmcdonnell8987]

Alan Oliver was the murderer of those young boys,wile working for special branch.

[@Irishmush]

Well explained in simple but factual terms by danny morrisson..

[@bytpranks8089]

Rewriting history

[@ROMAN138]

Both sides have just as much blood on their hands.

[@sword-and-shield]

Thank You, I am an American trying to saturate myself with info. to learn about the troubles.

[@ATLmodK]

I’m American too. I’ve been following the troubles since they started and this channel is the best!! It is a treasure of Troubles history. It is honestly the best source I have found!! And the loyal watchers also recommend great books that, sadly, are hard to find here! But there are still some good suggestions. Welcome to this wonderful channel!🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪💚💚

[@sword-and-shield]

@@ATLmodK I know, its crazy just clicked on the channel vids button...so many vids, already subbed...thx for the heads up, Thank You Ma'am

[@ATLmodK]

@@sword-and-shield Welcome! I admit my interest might be obsessive, but each of these vids unpacks another story, another interpretation… so keep watching. Hope to see you when there is another live chat.

[@sword-and-shield]

@@ATLmodK Hope to catch it...thx again. I know its not simple, and I have a lot to learn, but it seems the Brits should have just left it all to the Country to decide, on their own, by a majority voting process. In my limited exposure, its seems they just wanted to have a foothold in that Country so close to theirs just based on potential future security threat alone. The North already being there gave them the excuse. No disrespect, and not trying to flame anyone, just throwing out my early assessments. I am leaning Republican, because it seems they were just asking for simple Nationalistic rights, its reminding me of the movie Braveheart.

[@ATLmodK]

It’s very, very complicated as you will learn. I became interested when Bernadette Devlin came to the States in August, 1969. My husband and i had been involved with Civil Rights here and hearing how Catholics were treated in NI was appalling to this and to this day people in this country are shocked that people were denied rights because they were Catholic. Still hear that here. Anyway, I see it as three sides that are often just seen as two. The Nationalists, the Unionists and the Brits, and most of the time the Unionists and Brits were aligned. But you will discover much and my knowledge started over 50 years ago, but I keep learning new things. I’ll put my opinion this way, I’ve never sided with the over dog!

[@bigshoes5228]

And they allowed stakeknife to murder at will

[@dvrn86]

Death begets death begets death.

[@maureenstockman]

For goodness sake put it to rest

[@ianmcdonald1538]

Is it true that these days in Ulster the majority of the population are now Catholic??

[@ATroubledLand]

It is

[@edwardmills3825]

Muslim

[@ATroubledLand]

ATLmodK here. This is ridiculous, it certainly isn’t a majority Muslim and somebody who doesn’t know anything about Ireland could believe this comment

[@gailday7636]

Thank you Bobby❤

[@melissabyrne8749]

Thanks for sharing

[@ATroubledLand]

My pleasure

[@gailday7636]

Thank you for sharing❤

[@gailday7636]

👍🇮🇪

[@jefflowe4524]

Good job mate - I love it when you find stuff like this and then add it to your play list - as an ex Medic from my time in the British Army - I have enjoyed sharing these stories with my new wife who is Australian, but from Celtic heritage - the 7 part series on how it all started assisted me so much - despite my memories of discussing the conflict prior - it helps so much! Thanks again buddy / keep up the great work!

[@ATroubledLand]

The Troubles series was a great find for sure. Putting a load of work into the channel of late - it is really pleasing to see it reaching far and wide. Appreciate the comment my friend, thank you.

[@davidravenscroft9235]

Ulster is not for sale!!!!!!

[@ATLmodK]

I’m often impressed by the thoughtful responses that come from people who were there in a combatant role. Thank you so much, Geoff for your thoughtful perspective

[@murphylenny9349]

@david ravemscroft9235 Is that the nine countries of Ulster that's not for sale? Or just the six counties that make up northern Ireland, that's not for sale???

[@Jazzjasey]

Were there any protestant or Jewish IRA members?

[@peteringram476]

The IRA was /is a political unit its ideology is not based on religion and some of its finest members were protestant....on the other hand the British system in the 6 counties was / is based on protestant superiority which included housing ,jobs ,voting rights .....the 6 counties was never a good place to be Catholic...

[@balor7]

Yes

[@markdavidson9743]

​@@peteringram476Nonsense

[@roberthughes3904]

Wolfe Tone who founded The United Irishmen in 1798 was Protestant.

[@williamrae9954]

Plenty deluded ex-Scots,Campbells,etc...ironic as they were Scottish traitors...remember Omagh?

[@looneytune6955]

Brings back memories of my uncle who served numerous tours of Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s. Remember my dad telling me a story of when he came home on leave and wamted to fight everyone in the local Irish club. A friemd from the club told him to come and get your brother before he gets a beating. Used to get busted by the redcaps regular because he didnt wamt to go back. Used to hide in my grans loft lol. Never spoke about it though, my dad said it messed his head up badly, you never knew who your enemy was.

[@TeddyBear-ii4yc]

I worked with an ex-squaddie. He said one night on patrol in NI they happened upon two young couples, teens, snogging on the edge of the estate. They leathered the lads and carried on. I just thought what a cxxts trick... but that's soldiers for yer. I suppose they'd have been near school-leaving age or older but nothing to do with the troubles. Just kids in a quiet area courting...

[@irishboer7124]

They never learned, they made plenty recruits for the ra.

[@irishboer7124]

They never learned, they made plenty recruits for the ra.

[@gailday7636]

Thank you for sharing❤

[@johnnyb5645]

😮

[@gailday7636]

Guy Fawkes🎉

[@seamyf4018]

my family was one them I could tell you tones of stories of the police being nasty my da my granda and my granny and all my uncels were arrested under interment im very proud of my family MC faddens 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@gailday7636]

❤

[@milesnixon9554]

These videos are compelling viewing. Well done. Here's to a brighter future for all in the emerald isle.

[@Irishmush]

These people were fighting this war surrounded by the enemy..soldiers in your front garden taking cover..army men with foreign accents calling kids bigot names..

[@paddycaldwell3112]

This has to be one of my favourites from this channel, thanx soo much ATL. 💚🇮🇪RIP Bobby Storrie. 💚

[@ATroubledLand]

Tnxs Paddy - defo no where near enough of this type of documentary done on the conflict - a real shame

[@paddycaldwell3112]

@@ATroubledLand I know right, what would we do without u? ATL The best YT channel ever.💚💚💚

[@ATroubledLand]

@@paddycaldwell3112 Tnxs Paddy - ATL is just an archive for our history to be stored. Not sure best YT channel suits it in my mind as it can put me and everyone watching in such a dark place sometimes. But I appreciate your comment my friend , very much ..

[@ononewheellad]

@@paddycaldwell3112Bobbie Storey was a thug, the dogs on the streets and all that, up there with King rat.

[@gailday7636]

Shaun the sheep 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 had a lawyer and court case 👍

[@jinkylarsson2869]

Great upload.

[@joeybee1914]

🇮🇪🇺🇲🇮🇪🇺🇲🇮🇪🇺🇲🇮🇪

[@gailday7636]

God bless Bobby ♥️

[@TheRisenPeopleEire]

Wow some old faces in here bai

[@gailday7636]

For Shaun the sheep 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@masoodahmed2041]

Absolutely wonderful documentary thank you, I am from Yorkshire. I remember the troubles thinking this will never happen to my community of Muslims then 911 happened.

[@properjob79]

sorry but what has this got to do with being a muslim? are you edging towards whats happened in israel because i'm struggling with your view

[@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis]

Playing the victim as they always do... now their stabbing children in Southport... Ireland and UK.. we need our countries back!! We are power in numbers!!!

[@gailday7636]

Bobby Sands❤

[@Pray4Me2Night]

27:28 think yous did

[@gailday7636]

No court case😂 no justice😂

[@gailday7636]

Law, practice,👍

[@andrewscott8950]

Funny how the catholics cried, and begged the army for help. Then they changed their minds

[@ATLmodK]

The British Army came to “restore” law and order. Catholics in Northern Ireland hoped, early on in the deployment of the British Army, that Loyalist violence would be curtailed. However, this was not the case. Restoration of Law and Order would have meant going back to Loyalist rule, or back to British Law and Order. The Catholics did not beg for the British Army to deploy in Northern Ireland, although British Troops were welcomed by both sides until the moment it became very clear that Nationalists and Republicans were to be mistreated by British troops. I highly recommend the book Kitson’s Irish War by David Burke which is an extremely well researched history of how the British Army became deployed and what their role was in Northern Ireland.

[@andrewscott8950]

@@ATLmodK I won’t read any one persons view. It can’t go back to republican rule as it’s never been that way. The catholics were getting their arses kicked and needed help. Once the big boys were in town they cried the victim and still lost in the end.

[@gailday7636]

Interment without trial breaks my heart😂

[@gailday7636]

My heart ♥️☘️ goes to the Irish Republican army ♥️🇮🇪

[@Leogirl222]

Girl I agree with you but why use that emoji 😭😭

[@gailday7636]

😂❤

[@gailday7636]

Law❤

[@gailday7636]

❤😂❤☘️☘️

[@gailday7636]

😂❤

[@gailday7636]

,👍☘️🥊

[@gailday7636]

Grace❤

[@gailday7636]

Survival❤😂

[@gailday7636]

👍

[@johnsometimeswrong8742]

I allways find it odd when a British person comes to the Island of Ireland interview an Irish person and asks them do they think they are a terrorist for fighting for political freedom...😮

[@jonoessex]

They obviously wouldn’t ask such a question. The Irish government would also consider that Irish person a terrorist.

[@johnsometimeswrong8742]

@@sherlockgnomes8971 A very dirty war no doubt...while at the same time the U.D.A. L.V.F. U.F.F. were out and about machine gunnig bars and shooting random catholics all the while their police and military handlers pulled the strings...and for what? So that they could go on to be well off drug dealers with bad haircuts and worsd clothes....Ireland is Irish accross 32 counties and will be one country in the future that 100% certain and no amount of flag waving and flute band marches can stop that happening.

[@gailday7636]

Sadness😂❤

[@patward8414]

Amazing work PW

[@gailday7636]

❤

[@gailday7636]

Faerie❤

[@gailday7636]

Rip ♥️☘️ Bobby storey❤

[@gailday7636]

❤

[@gailday7636]

😂

[@gailday7636]

Disgraceful 😂❤

[@Leogirl222]

Wrong emoji 😭😭

[@gailday7636]

❤

[@ConnbineHarvester]

33 posts, calm down.

[@alanhannigan9944]

I'm Irish and proud of it,i was a kid in the south during the bad days of the war 70's/80's and didn't quite understand the political situation,i got my information from An Phoplacht and seeing the pictures on the magazine made me realise a 5th of my Country was under british crown rule and ppl were been killed,as kid you think simple and i thought why can't the soldiers go back to their country and all the killing would stop,if only after nearly a thousand years of british brutality towards Ireland it runs deep in the Irish mind ☘️Tal 32

[@TonySimpson-f9t]

I DISLIKE THE PROTESTANTS BECAUSE THEY HATE US CATHOLICS ENOUGH TO BURN US ON THEIR BONFIRES 😮😢 18:15

[@barryplatt7240]

The ra killed more Irish people than any other organisation and has the highest kill rate of roman Catholics out of all the protagonists involved in the troubles. Perhaps you should have read something else?

[@bryanscott2072]

I’m from Scotland, and understood very little until my Irish partner took me home. Those who think they know, but know nothing are the worst

[@DigitalMan6627]

Can’t spell your native tongue???

[@bushwhackeddos.2703]

Multi kulti will do what the Normans never could.

[@sarahportercomedy]

Not to be superficial but everyone’s earrings are SLAYING

[@ATroubledLand]

Define Slaying please - it must be slang I do not know..

[@sarahportercomedy]

@@ATroubledLandooops sorry! It means: when someone looks impressively beautiful and slays it. Example: You are slaying in red babe!

[@ATroubledLand]

@@sarahportercomedy Class !!

[@Ian-mj4pt]

So sad how people can hate each other for a religious or political belief. Why can't people just live peaceful and safe.?

[@ConnbineHarvester]

It'd take a while to explain, but it's mainly because some of Ireland is occupied by a foreign government and we don't want them here.

[@markdavidson9743]

​@@ConnbineHarvesterNonsense

[@ConnbineHarvester]

@@markdavidson9743 Which bit? The fact that some of Ireland is part of the UK? Or the bit where most people on the island of Ireland do not want any of the island to be part of the UK?

[@davidandrews8963]

As an English man I am ashamed of this country and the attrocities it has carried out How fucking dare we do this ? Did you know also that England were responsible for the first concentration camps back in the Boer war Most of the stuff in our museums is pillaged from countries that couldn't fight back As a boy I remember Bobby Sands and it upset me that he died the way he did and the other hunger strikers too I was 13 back in 1981 A shameless shameful embarrassing empire this country has probably carried out some of the worst attrocities in living memory and it's so wrong ♥️🌊

[@claverhouse1]

The USA was creating concentration camps for Native Americans long before the Boer War, and exterminating them with biological warfare and ethnic cleansing.

[@gailday7636]

Kin❤, ☘️

[@gailday7636]

Interment without trial is worse than racism in Australia 😂 this happens in the 1970's 1980's 😂❤

[@1Hannigan1]

The British were the occupiers. Occupation is bad. If youve seen it , then you know. Resistance to it is something that is organic and necessary for humanity to rid themselves of occpation in all its forms.

[@bushwhackeddos.2703]

I for one want to be become a min ority in my own homeland, legally.

[@andrewscott8950]

Invited by the catholics

[@gailday7636]

Sinn Fein ♥️☘️👍🇮🇪 has to reclaim Ireland❤

[@leeorr9071]

Sinn Fein is a grass and was giving information to the uk government and I should no because my dad was meeting him ????

[@seamyf4018]

my granda was one the founders of the derry sinn fein. I'm very proud of my family. not so proud now 😢

[@gailday7636]

@@seamyf4018 sorry for your loss

[@gailday7636]

@@seamyf4018 your loss is so sad

[@seamyf4018]

corrupting runs to deep brother I can't see away out of this ccorrupt government 😒

[@Irishmush]

It they had better geography teacher's at schools in old brittanninia. None of this would of happened..Ireland is for the irish to control.BECAUSE IT IS IRELAND..SIMPLES...NORTH..SOUTH..EAST..WEST..in IRELAND 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

[@TheScouseassassin]

Better teachers might have been able to instruct you on correct grammar and spelling.

[@gottmituns813]

GLORY FOR THE PROVOS!

[@TheScouseassassin]

Except they lost! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ardri31]

​@@TheScouseassassindid they? Pretty sure we're allowed to vote and have jobs now 🤔

[@MartinMcclymont]

Im really proud of that guy Dermott wife Aleishe standing by her husband, after him wanting her too leave him , (FOR BETTER FOR WORST TILL DEATH THEY WONT PART) 🌟

[@patkearney9320]

Look it’s simple Irish fight the fight for there country back. End of story

[@andrewscott8950]

If it was to go back then it would be united under British rule. It's never been united as a repubkic. Learn the history

[@Leogirl222]

@@andrewscott8950stop trying to be smart

[@andrewscott8950]

@@Leogirl222 its being correct flower

[@ATroubledLand]

@andrewscott8950 ATLmodK here again. Under the high king Brian Boru the Island of Ireland was united under one Irish ruler Granted that took place in the 11th century and it was not much later that Henry II and Strong bow started made Ireland a British colony.

[@patkearney9320]

@@andrewscott8950 I know the history u buy HIS/ STORY. I don’t waste time on fools.

[@gailday7636]

A united Ireland❤

[@Jazzjasey]

Im a former lvf famboy.. we used to donate $45 a week for the cause

[@caseychaos5216]

The worlds gone mad