Disclosure: Faking "That Analog Sound" Using Automation & Variation (15 Tricks)

[@InVerSemusic93]

Listening to Guy talk about production and break things down always serves as a reminder that I'm not doing enough to make my stuff interesting. It's both inspiring and daunting. Edit: Now I know it's guy

[@SolStateMusic]

Automation should not be daunting, just try stuff and see what happens :)

[@wolfgangrecordings]

this is clearly guy, not howard, he even says "i sent this over to howard" in the video

[@InVerSemusic93]

@@wolfgangrecordings My mistake

[@fejessandorrichard6196]

same here...

[@hustle_tee]

Thank god I'm not the only one who is crazy!

[@TheHatMusic]

"Making music is my job mate, so I only have time for this".... and on that note, I subscribed. I do love music that is properly crafted, even if it takes ages to do. It feels so much more dynamic.

[@nicklaskragbe1075]

He's the best person to test the M1 max , see if he gets the system overloads lol

[@vrdnyn]

Jacob Collier has entered the chat.

[@briancase6180]

Yes! Stress the M1 pro chip. I have to admit, with bitwig, I'm finding the damn os puts most of the threads on the efficiency cores instead of the performance cores. Eventually, it's figures things out, but I want to find a way to tell the os to use the performance cores from the get-go. Any ideas? Maybe I just have to tell bitwig developers to use the APIs to do it.

[@LEVRAN]

@@vrdnyn Christian henson entered the chat

[@egnatu]

he got one during this video and automatically closed out so looks like he's already used to it lol

[@egnatu]

at 4:27

[@flightloungebeats]

The eq automation on the hats is high key genius as hell

[@nadnad123456]

"HOW DO U HAVE TIME FOR THIS?" Its my job lol

[@lighterwaves5659]

🤣like a programmer

[@misterpowers5234]

What a dumb question😂🥴

[@SolStateMusic]

Another funny one from their Doja Cat remix... "Guy, where did you get the stems?" "From Doja Cat"

[@legacybge]

@@SolStateMusic What I'm curious about is how do you GET to the point where you can make money as a producer, where you can only focus on making music? Right now I'm doing a full time job and side hustles to supplement, and ANY free time is spent producing. I haven't made a cent from music production yet and I reach out to artists and producers daily, any advice?

[@maus3454]

You still need to get out of bed 🤣

[@eliasmbth5598]

Im producing for fun since ten years (still countless hours invested) and watching these videos hype me big times as there is sooooo much more to learn and discover!

[@SolStateMusic]

Love that mentality! I am also forever a student.

[@travlernils4195]

@@SolStateMusic You can be fully paid but you can never be fully learned ^^

[@RBmusic2000]

so much hype from this guy. Love his explanations.

[@chrisvomradio]

08:43 "System Overload" 🤣 I am glad this also happens to the best ones out there 😁

[@jesui.]

those are some of the most authentic sounding drums i've ever heard.

[@RAMA-oq3pj]

Those details are mental oh my god

[@Sool101]

'system overload', love it! Never too much, not even that. 😂

[@SolStateMusic]

Never Enough frustration ;)

[@lfakroll]

I think it's even more fun to think about it more like, what makes analog sounds sound like they do? Why do people like this? What other ways are there to add these characteristics? Subtle variation in pitch, noise and added overtones(sometimes both odd and even) can be done in a lot of different ways! Some of my favorite are adding noise with Ableton's erosion, or any ring mod plugin where you can use noise as a mod source, adding overtones with phase distortion and sine-folding(biased differently in stereo can be cool!) And Pitch drift via frequency shifter!

[@MusicTechOfficial]

So good! All the details *_do_* serve a purpose, for sure.

[@SolStateMusic]

Yes, really adds up!

[@SolStateMusic]

Did you know there's almost 12,000 producers in Disclosure's Discord? discord.com/invite/disclosure Track ID: Never Enough by Disclosure - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZDVZ5uIi5Voarc

[@8IGHTYY]

Sol doing the Lord's work.

[@UnknownMelodies95]

These vids are absolutely class, always looking to learn new things and this definately made me reaslise i need to up my automation game, great to watch thank you for sharing / taking time. I got alot from this video. ❤

[@moreorlesto]

Much love for the peek behind the curtain! I have most of those plugin toys and hadn't thought of using them in the same ways - very impressive. And great music! I peeped the Soundcloud page, and you made a new fan tonight! Mission: Accomplished!

[@thugtrippin]

Anyone using Logic Pro x has so much to learn from this guy and this channel

[@alejandromoncayo2460]

This is the best KZbin channel ever, this content is more than pure gold

[@TheTravellingHobo]

This man is an absolute genius

[@CamKnoppMusic]

This dude is crazy skilled/talented

[@gold88official]

Love your channel. All these video edits are super inspiring. Learning a hell of a lot!! Thank you to all the producers and you guys for the great edits!!

[@byrnesy924]

that thing about the transient in soft synths makes a huge difference making dub stabs with really short decays. glad someone else noticed and im not going insane

[@izmirbdsm6669]

best channel for producers.

[@SolStateMusic]

Thank you! Tell a friend

[@learnforfree9755]

Finally someone who give it 100% In the mix stage!

[@KordTaylor]

This is really great. It shows how much more you get if you put in the time. Thank you!

[@PNUTTAY]

Always coming in with the Disclosure recaps. Great stuff, thanks Sol State!

[@Rhythmattica]

Though Im more a "keys"player (never mouse input , but play Guitar & Bass , and master of none), and I prefer the "happy mistakes" when writing music.. or songs.. or Tracks ... Or Beats.. Whatever makes it what you want, Ive only today come upon your channel , and find it different to the many the other "Music is Production" channels.. We all have a passion.. But what I like is your not selling., just sharing... Respect, sharing your genre.

[@speedcrawlmusic]

Thank you! 🙌

[@SolStateMusic]

Great to see you watching so many videos and learning so much! Thanks for all comments

[@futureimprint5793]

Amazing share! Thank you. Talk about Couturè automation 💪🤙

[@huber-lofiandchillbeat]

Thanks for the new horizons!

[@federicobreno1839]

Wow this is one of the most valuable!!! Thanks!!

[@DanYankees7]

man this was amazing

[@NOSIDAM]

this man is a scientist

[@tutunuitekanawa3940]

Love the chromereverb and ring shifter so underrated!

[@thelanavishnuorchestra]

That's definitely a lot of cool tips.

[@psyjinx]

I love watching producers in the lab. It's auditory chemistry.

[@handbookofmagic]

Great vid, as always, Sol!

[@SolStateMusic]

Thanks mate

[@scattermish]

This was a really good one

[@ayMillmusic]

Sick stuff as always

[@ChrisEspino759]

8:24 I was making the same face - you know it's good, but its like a "mmm thats dirty" good

[@MatsMorlund]

Awesome tips❗️ Thanks for sharing so many useful great effects 👍

[@ardieson4542]

dang, so creative you are!

[@krishanknoles9276]

wow - thanks for sharing the knowledge. impressive bro

[@TRNQUL]

The track too is an absolute vibe

[@zen_nabu]

Oh this is a game changer. Thank you.

[@ticalh76]

one of the best out there, much love to him and howard, and thanks again sol for all the content its priceless for producers

[@Maffmatix]

inspiring!

[@DiggaD27]

Some quality stuff right there! Thanks for sharing :D

[@whenaubreyhearsthis]

"HoW dO yOu HaVe TiMe tO dO tHiS" he's literally disclosure

[@paulinercopoth]

He should put a disclosure that states that.

[@oceanspray6969]

This is super inspiring!!

[@YiggaP]

1st time I see one of your video, I subscribed in the middle and by the decapitator switch I hit the bell 😂

[@SolStateMusic]

Well timed haha. Hope you learn a lot here

[@RolfCityDirtHunt]

awesome groove my dude!!!

[@George-nx8zu]

Can someone explain what he's doing at 7:54? He's boosting the transient click of the Juno to make it pop more on the start of the note?

[@baiatu_teh_boss5613]

Well, the transient is the first (and loudest) part of the pluck bass. The pluck bass, i believe, has a lowpass filter on it (taking away higher frequencies). The thing is, he probably wants the bass to have more presence in the song (keep in mind i didnt watch until this part i just skipped to your timestamp). On devices like phones you cant hear lower frequencies, making the bass almost inaudible UNLESS you bring up the higher frequencies like how this guy did in the video (he brought up higher harmonics, that is, harmonic notes that make up the timbre of the bass, to make the bass more audible in higher frequencies) Sry for the paragraph lmao

[@YoureNowOnTV]

@@baiatu_teh_boss5613 😁👍

[@SolStateMusic]

Yes, he's increasing the transient/pop at the very start of the note (in that 1k area).

[@itsrasalhague]

Cool stuff! I'd like to recommend the plugin Spiff for transients. I find it work great on stabby/punchy bass and drums.

[@owenreel3916]

" How do you have time for this? " Besides doing it for work, if you're serious about your music, you make the time.

[@tavishsharmamusic]

And I thought only I was getting the system overload message 🤦 Haha thanks for this tho!

[@chameleonedm]

So fucking humanizing of a major artist lol. “For no reason” love it

[@ryankeane6614]

Most people wouldnt be conscious of all of this but I reckon it tickles em on a subconscious level be interesting to have a study of these subtle changes vs no subtle changes and see if people’s enjoyments the same by way of brain scans . Sorry went all Freudian there !! 😂

[@Salehieh]

That's actually interesting, it could be the case!

[@fredleg600]

Psychoacoustics

[@michaelcorcoran3942]

I think you.wouldnt have to do that. People would just experience it as sounding better or worse. Better if the little details have reason..and add up to make something better. The devil's in the detail for a reason

[@ryankeane6614]

@@fredleg600 😂

[@antonioe.2396]

he like always has something interesting to teach, a real pro

[@BullyMaguire4ever]

Don’t like this style of music but I still learned some interesting ideas.

[@benrabary]

everytime i watch guys videos i realise i don't use enough automations

[@MrDobleagent]

actually your kit of drums is great

[@canastraroyal]

Hey, Sol! I make music like that, too. Glad to know I'm not alone! Hahaha keep it real!

[@MrDobleagent]

is there a way you can share that super metallic snare? or where you found it?

[@adammason1587]

where does he live stream?

[@alanrave8791]

Thank you very good channel you have my sub

[@greensleeves32]

Love this thx!

[@briandavidofficial]

Automating the reverb around on the claps was 200iq

[@wrighteously]

Ear candy is so important. People need to discover new stuff when they relisten!

[@garrettfitzgerald1033]

Has so much automation he’s getting system overloads on the NEW MacBook Pro - wild

[@cutteredward1392]

it’s a 2019 intel mac not m1

[@robsmith5434]

New M1 Pro is way more powerful than the 2019 MacBook.

[@triscortex2891]

Can’t wait for my M1 max to arrive!!!

[@osiris5315]

You do know that the open and closed hat on a 909 are also samples? They sound the same every time. It's just the timing of the 909 that's adds a unique swing to the hats.

[@mareikemacinnes7764]

You have to change every kick minimally, in terms of volume, length and tuning (micro range/minimal nuance) actually even the pressure if this is possible with the DAW. And that with every sound of the Tr 909. When I record my Rd9, each kick is slightly different (logically, since it is an electronic impulse in an analogue system), this is already visible on every waveform. And I also mean every one, no matter if you have sampled 100 pieces. Greetings from Germany

[@elliottpollock8550]

you don't have to actually do that. I don't know why ppl don't record audio samples and midi variation and automation live w your actual hands and fingers, or use a technology to just generate it w logical or random algorithms. not really that painstaking really if you find process interesting and fun.

[@RB-lj7ge]

6:34 one of the best mistakes ive ever heard in dance music

[@michaelcorcoran3942]

What song is this?

[@RB-lj7ge]

@@michaelcorcoran3942 …Never Enough

[@creamy8715]

What is that song called? Or is it not out yet

[@SolStateMusic]

It's Never Enough by Disclosure

[@sesesese6218]

I can hear the burial inspiration in your tunes

[@sieje]

Programming drums to sound live is so time consuming.

[@kriss12loverap]

A vst that do that for u probably comes

[@SolStateMusic]

@@kriss12loverap Ableton has a "random midi effect" you can use

[@Zer0Spinn]

In ableton you can use an lfo to modulate note duration, pitch, etc. You may be able to do something similar in other DAWs Here's an "old" video showing a few aplications of that technique: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zom8kmpnl6l_aNE Edit: this might be better (for ableton users) since the other one uses drum synth and not drum rack/sampler kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5DTY56Jm9Bom9E

[@BKnapp]

@@SolStateMusic cmnd 9 on logic has a humanize function as well

[@XanarchistBlogspot]

Oh noes a spoiled millennial might need to spend half an hour on a drum sound sob! You are surely as oppressed as your great grandparents who worked 60 hours a week in a coal mine. Someon MUST be canceled for this horrendous injustice.

[@rinhu8864]

These are great

[@sh-kw2ox]

Is there not a randomise velocity plug in you could have whacked on those hats

[@SolStateMusic]

Maybe. I think variation and randomness are very different goals

[@sh-kw2ox]

@@SolStateMusic yeh I get that but you can set parameters against the randomness so its not too wild. Just thinking of all those hours drawing in velocity. Patience of a saint. I've got 2 kids under 5, I'm fucked. Barely got time for a morning coffee haha

[@JoakimMoesgaard]

:D he is so chill but honestly all that work to make a loop ? am i right

[@Steelmack]

5:47 what happened there LMAO

[@Bittamin]

I need 909 kit sounds so bad l, I have no idea why logic doesn’t have one stock. Literally every TR variant could be ready to go on logic but instead something else I’ll never use got prioritized

[@Jupiter1423]

How much automation one does it up to them. Plenty of good tunes that dont have an avalanche of automation.

[@wolfgangrecordings]

how insightful hahaha

[@Sumbibebe]

Great video, I learned a a lot. Is there a name for this kind of mixing? Most mixing is just basic stuff and making it sound nice but this kind is more artistic and production like. If I send my song out to be mixed professionally, they will not do all those details. What is this style of mixing called?

[@cathalkissane4307]

this is just production with great attention to detail. in his experience and so too with many producers, producing and mixing are processes of creating a song that in a way often aren't two separate processes if you get me. just keep working on your craft, it takes a lotttt of hours of practice and trial and error and you'll come to a level of treatment towards your tracks like this naturally.

[@Sumbibebe]

@@cathalkissane4307 thank you and hats off to ya👍🏽

[@CR-sj7xd]

Its called "sound design". This is the basis of modern music production. Most big producers have their own aproaching to do the job. Its costs you years and years of learning, and testing stuff, but you can make it sound great even without mastering. Skrillex produce, mix and master in the same Ableton project, all sound design.

[@Sumbibebe]

@@CR-sj7xd you just opened a new chapter in my life. I always thought that “sound design” was mainly with synth and sampler editing but now it make more sense that this is also “sound designing”. Where do I go to find more detailed info on this without just finding it by chance? I know that no school will teach this in a profound way. Thank you, you are awesome!!👍🏽

[@CR-sj7xd]

@@Sumbibebe So good luck with your new journey! I don't know If there's a proper sound design tutorial, because its more related to the producer taste. Illangelo (the weeknd producer) made some videos showing his techniques. Its insane, search here for "illangelo mix with masters". But after all, its only you with your mind. You can start learning first about gain stage, working with 32 bit in your DAW. This gives you most of the pro sound these industry dudes have. Then, sound design becomes easier. Try tape emulation, distortion, use a multiband comp in a violin section for exemple. Or chorus on a drum bus, parallel distortion on vocals, its endless.. And you get 90% of that billboard radio sound.

[@deadline8370]

love watching your vids , but my god makes me realise how much i have to learn bit disheartening at times

[@michaelcorcoran3942]

What song is this from??

[@SolStateMusic]

Track ID: Never Enough by Disclosure - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZDVZ5uIi5Voarc

[@RolfCityDirtHunt]

"tangerine tambourine" - Riff Raff

[@antony5523]

Gold State

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I could do those effects with a 10 year old version of Reason. I know Reason is not respected by many producers but those EQ and reverb slides and modulation effects are so easy in that DAW I still use the same basic effect by modulating a two bang EQ which is 10 years old.

[@wolfgangrecordings]

each to their own man

[@emirmuratsezer1720]

logic is the prettiest daw by a wide margin

[@RetrogradedTunes]

it really is

[@triyambakam5807]

FL too

[@SolStateMusic]

Until system overload ;)

[@user-ux1vj9vx7s]

@@triyambakam5807 Lol So, we’re just naming off random saws?

[@artash9514]

Next level shit … so nerdy and well above my pay grade. Wish I had your ears

[@haus_cat]

Fucking love automation.

[@Al-Charko]

What is the song name?

[@SolStateMusic]

Never Enough by Disclosure

[@howlsroad]

I think what he’s doing is 2, maybe 3 separate musical things, all at the same time

[@theleague383]

Did some one really ask how he has time to do that with the 909s? 🤣

[@Rokhai]

name of the track?

[@mrbigh95838]

What kind of computer you got? If I run more than 8 channels mines gone explode! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ags911]

What song is this?

[@piijay_music]

Never Enough

[@SolStateMusic]

Never Enough by Disclosure - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZDVZ5uIi5Voarc

[@ags911]

@@SolStateMusic Thank you!

[@notuern]

These drums really sounds like you've listened to Antiloop

[@47fortyseven47]

If I ever spent this long on a single sound in a track I think I would permanently burn my self out of music permanently for the rest of my life lmao