SOLUTION GETTING MORE Motorcycle Riders on the road enjoying riding along with using Aoocci C6 Pro

The young don't want to ride. Then look at a different demographic and approach that demographic where they congregate. Take bikes to that place and show these people the bikes and spark that fire to want to take their license to ride a motorcycle. Also, a quick look at the Aoocci C6 Pro!
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[@edwardsenesac]

I took up two wheels again in 2011 when living in Germany. My office moved to the innenstadt where car parking was highly priced and far away. I lived only two kilometers away up a big hill. In this case it made sense and I could park for free on the sidewalk in front of the office. So, there were many practical reasons, and I saved gas. I have been in two wheels daily since then. I don't let the weather hinder me. After one accident where my shoulder was dislocated, I made sure to grab a second bike on the next day, remove the sling, use my right hand to place the left hand on the left grip, and push away. As it then proceeded, I became obsessed with it until this day! Even to the point of watching KZbin videos of motorcycling, forgetting that I must still work! I am 56 now.

[@bankruptpensioner]

Great news on seeing the light in 2011 😆.

[@uktrismus]

The cost of training is prohibitive for most youngsters and then the insurance costs are crazy Most kids just can’t afford to buy all the protective equipment Everything seems to be stacked against motorcycles

[@roadkill8161]

aye costs almost a grand for me to get my full A, passed everything first time but when I try to tell my buddy he should do it the costs of tests really throws him off

[@bankruptpensioner]

I’m looking at reducing the cost of the insurance for the youngsters and I’ll create a video on that in the near future. Keep an eye out.

[@roadkill8161]

I think the reason younger people don't ride is because for seasoned riders insurance is reasonable, for a new rider though depending where you live the insurance rate is astronomical. my 125cc insurance fully comp was almost £1800, 650cc is £3600. Sure you can get 3rd party but if you drop it and cause major damage or some rat steals the bike then yknow its a lost cause. The likelihood of a new rider at 17-18 having enough to buy out a whole new bike or have enough for repairs is not exactly high in this day and age. Now add those costs ontop of the ever increasing cost of rent, gas, electric, food etc This would be more of the reason why there aren't as much younger riders

[@bankruptpensioner]

The cost of living seems so much more now for the young. Very sad really 😥

[@Paulcfc67]

Your right Richard my late dad never wanted me to ride a bike he had a bad accident when he was younger but now I passed my test 5 years ago along with my son and never looked back even got the wife in to motorbikes she passed her test a month ago happy days

[@bankruptpensioner]

Great story. We keep panicing on the thought of the young missing out - buth things have changed so much. I should start a marketing company 😆

[@skyhill4279]

Hi Richard, I think a lot is due to the way the Government changed the test structure for young motorcyclists was a lot to do with it as it made it more difficult to achieve a full licence and the age restriction on getting a bigger bike. They said it was for safety but they should've spent more money educating 4 wheeled drivers instead. I do think the young of today are a lot softer and don't want to get wet or cold. I do think the industry needs to get together and attract more young riders to the motorcycling world and show them just how much fun and road experience is to be had. Having Manx blood coursing through my veins and living on the TT course it is not surprising that I'm a motorcyclist. My late Grandfather was very much into bikes, my Father didn't have one ( though that was more due to circumstances ) but rode them from time to time in his job. I used to ride in all weathers including ice and snow but not anymore. As soon as the salt goes on the roads my bikes are parked up in my garage until the salt clears. I spent too much money over the years on chrome plating and new parts due to salt damage. I don't set out on a run if it is raining anymore either but if the rain comes on when I'm out riding I just pull over and put my waterproofs on and carry on riding. The riding gear we have now is much better than what we had when I started riding bikes. As ever Richard thanks for the videos. Cheers, Sky.

[@bankruptpensioner]

Great story Sky. You are right about the process being so hard and expensive regard the license. Strange way of thinking however, the UK govermants present and past do think in strange ways. Too many pen pushers 😆.

[@201banjo]

Your observations on one of many negative effects of fatherlessness and the breakdown of the family unit is spot on. I think we all know the movement that caused this problem.

[@bankruptpensioner]

wink wink nudge nudge say no more 😆👍

[@mum-0217]

Richard you are so right on this subject. I am quite miffed that I did not sit my bike test prior to 2000, as I am told I would not have had to do the theory and it would have been that much to pass. Maybe they aught to give us old timers a second chance to re-sit the test for those of us that missed the deadline. This would help to increase market share and benefit the economy, as we would then be able to go out and buy the bike of our dreams? I have plenty of experience in riding bikes, having done a lot of off roading in my youth.

[@bankruptpensioner]

Thanks for saying I was right - been thinking this for years. There is nothing finer than riding a bike ❤ - riding anything else just costs too much 😆 - only joking ❤

[@PB_6107]

One of the missed opportunities for the pro bike industry lobbyists is the fact that motorcyclists in general have a better road sense of awareness, 2years of riding a motorcycle should be the compulsory route to qualifying for a provisional car license. I know this will upset a few folk but as a motorcycle rider from the age of 10 and now aged 64, I firmly believe riding bikes makes for a safer car driver. Just my point of view. Keep up the great videos.

[@bankruptpensioner]

I always said this was the way forward for road sense. Take the bike test (even if just a CBT) and must ride for a year on the road. Then the car test. Also, stop making car cockpits so bloody distracting. i have no idea, from a safety perspective, how cars have such screens in the dashboard. It's like having a laptop in your car. However, i am just an old fart 😆.

[@raymondhumphreys5122]

Might have something to do with the astronomical price of insurance for young ones and of course the horrendous weather in the uk.

[@MrB1967]

The weather isn't horrendous. Even in a washout summer like we've had this year, I can count on one hand the days I've got even remotely wet. Admittedly this is me riding when I want, not when I have to.. the car's windscreen wipers have been busy... 100% with you on the insurance, it's a scandle. Even for cars, never mind bikes.

[@bankruptpensioner]

Could be Raymond - BUT - I have a cure for that problem 👍. Upcoming video on the young and motorcycle insurance will be available very soon.

[@scottastell9415]

You maybe onto something . That said it is in the Motorcycle Industry own interest to maybe train new motorcyclists for free and encourage youth at Big Boy toy days they could hold. The motorcycle industry will be the loser in the western world if they just sit back on past ways and just hope the Aged older riders will keep buying motorcycles and life will go on as it did. So, the Motorcycle manufacturers and Retail shops have to do some marketing and spend some cash to train new riders is my thought.

[@bankruptpensioner]

Great idea Scott, it should be for free. I have been thinking for some days now. Apparently, Tuesday is the singles night at the local Morrisons, apparently :). If this is true, then why does the local deal (which ever one) not take three of four bikes to the entrance (in collaboration with Morrisons etc) and park up the bikes for the evening, allowing the young and not so young to get up close and have a feel? Have a sit on the bikes, arrange something, just drive something forward? That would reignite the spark maybe and encourage more to take up riding? Just a thought :)

[@HotelEch0]

The state of some of the tarmac you're riding on for bits of this video might be another contributing factor...

[@bankruptpensioner]

you are right - but we get used to missing the potholes - hopefully 😆.

[@IndigoJo]

Here in London we have lots of people going round doing delivery jobs on scooters. The scooter industry can't be doing badly, off them alone, and they can't all be old. But yes, I learned to drive a car when I was 17 and passed when I was 18, and pretty much everyone I know who's my generation did as well. My dad rode a motorbike in the 70s and early 80s, and used to commute to work in London (from the suburbs) but switched to a pushbike. Not sure what kind of licence he has; he got his car licence in the late 80s. When I mentioned riding a motorbike to my nan, she said "you ain't riding no motorbike!". I know more people who've quit than who still ride, and they say things like "motorists can't see further than their bonnets" and "it was good while it lasted, and I quit while I was ahead". I considered learning when I was at university, but didn't pursue it because of the cost. I considered it again in the late 2000s, as public transport wasn't getting me to work on time, but knocked it on the head because of a sudden death in the family. Now looking into it again, and learning to ride at 47 is much harder (when you're a truck driver, used to well-protected vehicles with slow acceleration) than at 21. A good way to get more young people riding is to require anyone who's not disabled to get their CBT before they can get a car licence. That way anyone driving a car will at least have ridden a motorbike on the road. I don't think it's mums' fault that young people aren't riding; it's the fact that few parents ride, mums or dads. It's been a minority pastime for decades. In the 60s you had far more bikes out there with sidecars; now it's overwhelmingly solo riders and a few pillions. The other issue with bikes is that there are some weathers which just aren't suitable for riding in, and it's too expensive for some people to have two vehicles. As for the licensing situation, I'd make A2 restrictions apply to everyone for two years after they pass, after which they can ride anything they like. That way, people get used to riding a moderately powerful bike before they go for anything big, and some might find a 400cc quite sufficient. But a 125 is quite sufficient for urban commuting, and vastly more economical than even a small petrol car.

[@MrB1967]

This is not a bad idea BUT it must be with only a single test, the A2 restriction should time out and die after two years. Asking someone to resit (and pay for!) the exact same test to progress to A1 is nonsense.

[@IndigoJo]

@@MrB1967 To A. A1 is max 125cc.

[@MrB1967]

@@IndigoJo oh yeah 😊 pardon me! I meant A, of course...

[@bankruptpensioner]

great summary, thanks Indigo 👍

[@IndigoJo]

@@MrB1967 And yeah, I agree. More training means more cash to the training industry. I do wonder if someone in that industry wasn't slipping a political party a lot of cash.

[@williamnethercott4364]

Good video and interesting opinions. Refreshing that someone acknowledges that an opinion is not necessarily a fact! I don't think you are quite right although there maybe something in your view, I just haven't encountered it. I think there are two main causes. The first is that, blind to the environmental advantages of motorcycling, successive governments have discouraged people from getting into motorbikes. Firstly, limiting learners to small machines that struggle to cope with modern traffic does them no favours, the testing structure is unfathomably complex for no clear reason which introduces time delays and extra costs for little return, if any. Training car drivers to look out for motorcyclists would have had a more cost-effective impact on safety. The other factor applies to the UK, which is the climate combined with the penny-pinching attitude towards maintaining roads and keeping them clear in winter. I'm thankful that I passed my test in the 1970s. I was about 31 years old when finances compelled me to sell my beloved Triumph around 1989 and didn't get back into bikes until 2022, when I treated myself to a classic AJS.

[@bankruptpensioner]

Great points raised William. And very true. A great classic AJS, well done and well done for getting back on the riding scene two years ago. I bet you are happy as Larry 😆.

[@ozzyprogdomino8815]

I am a Mum, it was me who persuaded our daughter to get a motorbike. You are right I am very protective, but riding a motorbike on the road is far safer then her preferred method of transport, the pushbike. I do ride a motorbikes myself so I am a bit different. We are women who grew up in the 80s, we don't restrict what our children do. The issue is the majority of youngsters prefer to live their life through a screen. Also buying a decent 125 is extremely expensive, insurance is eye watering, then there is the kit, the parents do not have the money either. I know there is a train of thought that women are the kill joys, it is not the case. We broke out of that mode and started realise that gender was not a restriction to we can and cannot do, so there is no way would I put restrictions on my child. Obviously, manners, being respectful, being a good human being are still a must. I really get sick of hearing I bet it's the mums fault. This is not the 70s any more.

[@bankruptpensioner]

Hi Ozzy, many thanks for the comment 👍. It's not the mums fault at all - just things have changed and this is for 80% and it looks like you are in the 20%, which is great. Firstly, the tought of one of my kids of the road on a bicycle sounds very dangerous. At least with a bike, you become part of the vehicle chain and this appears to be much safe in the big picture. Parents are very protective, mums expecially. And I understand this. And to be fair, we as a society ahve never been so safe (statistically). The media does give an alternate perspective however, this is just for headlines. Expensive - everything is expensive. When I was a kid, I didn't have the nice riding jackets or boots. Levis 501 and trainers, t shirt, and a normal jacket - however today, we would not dream of doing this (that said, only a few years ago when I lived in Qatar, I had shorts, t shirt, and trainers to ride a Triumph TBird 1700). Are we now too rich? Not sure? Great comment and I mean this. Good to hear from the other side 👍. ❓what is the other side? Sounds like a star wars film 😆. Well done to your young daughter for being part of something very special - motorcycles. She may well be the future star for the Long Way Round fior the girls - I do hope so 👍. Shiny side up 👍

[@ozzyprogdomino8815]

@@bankruptpensioner Thanks for your comment. The biggest demographic rise in motorcycle sales is to female riders. Probably inspired by itchy boots. 😂 who knows maybe women will save the motorcycle industry. The selection of riding kit for women has dramatically improved since I passed my test in 1998. I wore jeans, Dr Martens, the smallest man’s leather jacket I could find and the smallest gloves that were still too big. Loved my Kawasaki ZXR400 though. Wish I still had it, but would probably need my own personal chiropractor now if I road it for more than an hour.

[@bankruptpensioner]

@@ozzyprogdomino8815 You are right, female riders are on the rise and this is a good thing. About time too if I say. Lot's of female riders in Europe and the UK should catch up. Itchy boots is a great advocate for male and female riders. She promotes good sensible riding but does push capability to the edge which is great. Doodle on a Motorcycle is another advocate however, sometimes she does promote super small people riding super big bikes - which is a recipe for a small disaster 😆..... but that's my opinion, not a fact I hasten to add 😆. Having seen this over the past 30 years, womens clothing has come on well. The problem with women is their shapes are so varied (I am guessing here). I am not talking skinny Vs large, I am talking from neck to hips (just for a starter). With a female, the torso is so different from woman to woman. And, the jacket one looks at is either too tight in one area and too loose in another. It must be a hell of a job to try to satisfy all these different combinations in manufacture. And thats only from neck to hips. The you have waist to ankle 😆. A designers nightmare I guess. I guess that is why gear, even now, is so limited. I suggest protective kit over normal clothing (t shirt) which just protects the rider. Then over the protective kit, a normal jacket that would be purchased from any high street shop. This must work better for females as the material that holds all the protection in place is stretchy - catering for the many combinations of shapes. What you think to that? I am thinking of buying a 660 Daytona, and at the age of 57, I am sure after 45 mins, I will start to hurt 😆. But, for this kind of bike, and at my age, this may well be the last lap (opportunity) to enjoy a sports bike. 😆.

[@ozzyprogdomino8815]

@@bankruptpensioner There is also, UsernameKate, R1 Liz, Tins on Tours, with Faye. Saffy Sprocket, and some youngers my daughter likes "tiptoe riders" who giggle as much as ride. 🙂 "Rest day Rider" All creating a good image and inspiration for new riders. As for gear, Moto Girl do a great job of creating really good, well thought out and safe motorbike gear for women. On a selfish front the more women ride the more it is financially viable for manufactures to make more gear for women. So I get more choice 🙂

[@bankruptpensioner]

@@ozzyprogdomino8815 I had a good chat with Saffy at the ABR this year. All the others offer great content on YT. All about volume sales and if more women ride, then the selection will grow and more importantly, the size and shape options will grow. Good news really for all.

[@OsirionBeamEngine]

1 in 5 children in state schools dont have a male father figure in the household...

[@bankruptpensioner]

😆, I was going to mention that - but thought best not 😆

[@paulrendell8797]

The problems are many and they've all already been mentioned in the comments. When I started biking in the early 1970's, a 17 year old could get a bike up to 250cc, stick L plates on it and off you went! The only thing you couldn't do was go on motorways. Bikes were cheaper and insurance back then was peanuts. And getting your full licence was easy and cheap. So what is stopping young people turning to bikes today is the hassle of getting started with the licence situation and the costs of everything. Insurance alone would put most people off. There is one other reason, e-bikes. Lots of young people are turning to e-bikes. For little cost, you can fit a hub electric motor to virtually any push bike. And also young people are building their own e motorcycles. They are doing this because it is easy and cheap. Many don't even care if it strictly legal or not and e-bikes and small e-motorcycle are chuffin' quick! No insurance hassle to think off and no complicated licence situation to go through. I even saw one young lad with a message where his number plate would have been for the many traffic enforcement cameras that are on every street corner these days. It said ANPR this! So young people are still turning to 2 wheels but just a different type of 2 wheels. Because it is cheap and easy to do....

[@bankruptpensioner]

Great points and very valid raised Paul, cheers 👍

[@herbertsiegl7762]

I disliked cause doing video while riding....other than that..good content

[@bankruptpensioner]

😆👍

[@keithdolezel]

Frankly kids seem to be quite lazy, and much more risk adverse as everything seen online today has to do with the bad side of things though media. Faces stuck in their phones. They also don't want anything to do with manual transmission of any sorts. No one wants to work hard to get toys either.

[@bankruptpensioner]

That is a good point Keith. When I was a kid, the harder and longer you worked, the more you got! Over the past 20 years, the EU (pre brexit etc) drove the message to 36 or whatever hours a week. And this has indoctrinated the young. They actually beleive that they are hard done to because the don't get enough for 36 hours. I used to work 80 and go the reward (or so it felt at the time). The word 'conspiracy' or term 'world order' comes to mind 😆