Ace Combat Strangereal History: Nordennavic

If you thought Belka was the only nation capable of inciting wars between other nations, wait till you learn about Nordennavic and it’s secrets in the spin-off mobile game Ace Combat: Northern Wings. Disclaimer: the plot in Northern Wings is non-canon but I think it is still fun to talk about the missions.
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[@SolutusEversol]

Hey guys and gals! Let me know what you thought about the video and if you learned anything new about Nordennavic. :)

[@Arik33241]

Hmm, i think mission 5 is ok IF the Arkbird were destroying Yuktobanian ships far away from Wardog's combat zone BEFORE Wardog takes off

[@EpicThe112]

And speaking of one of the original planes the V55 it's likely to serve as the Strangereal introduction to British Aerospace systems Tempest if set in Strangereal with North Point licensing the V55 for the Royal North Point Air Force Tempest

[@NW1200]

I just want to say regarding NW Mission 4 and basically all of Ace Combat 4: Omega 11 gets shot down pretty much in every mission. Maybe that's Grendel, acting covertly throughout the Continental War then faking his way out of the theater. NW Mission 7 is unforgivable. My thoughts on NW mission 10 is that if Grendel got in and out before the other squadrons arrived then, very feasible. It's been a while since I played Ace Combat 6, but I seem to recall the final mission having several united squadrons attacking Chandelier. I believe Mobius(AC4) and Galm(ACZero) make appearances. It would make since for them to squeeze another pilot into that mission, albeit retroactively. In case anyone reads this, I've never played Ace Combat Northern Wings and NW in my user is not a reference to the game.

[@AvroBellow]

I've learnt that it's the Strangereal way of pronouncing "Sweden". LOL

[@Attaxalotl]

Quick question: What's the choir around the "Wait Grendel did NOT destroy the Arkbird" bit?

[@tipoima]

Mission 7 is definitely canon, they just had another spare Arkbird in their garage.

[@SolutusEversol]

tipoima right next to the spare Osean aircraft carriers!

[@tipoima]

@@SolutusEversol It'd really be unlike Osea to NOT build a spare one. Arsenal Birds? Have spares. Leasath's Gandr? Here, have a Gleipnir. Belka? Split in two. It's all canon, I'm telling you!

[@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69]

Right, and they definitely have a spare XFA-27... even though only one of these canonically exists.

[@pyroball602]

GOLDEN AXE PLAN INTENSIFIES LAUNCH ALL FLYING FORTRESSES *Wake-up call intensifies* Burford: Where did all of those Orgoi appear from?!

[@yeenmachine206]

@@tipoima They sell Arsenal Birds at the local Dollar Tree

[@plague6566]

I like to theorize that almost every Ace protagonists secretly go to Nordennavic Kinda explains why Galm 1 and Mobius 1 disappeared

[@ollikoskinen1]

Perhaps they are hired by the Nordennavic's Air Force? Neutrality can be defended the best, if you have the best aces.

[@justmemesiguess6293]

I-I-mean cipher too right??????

[@JinteiModding]

I mean, the last appearance of Mobius 1 was in 2017 in Ace Combat 7 VR

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

Cipher is actually Mobius to me. Cipher was a rookie merc in 1995, went back home to Usea and saved the ISAF. Then moves around the world for a while, being recalled each time Free Erusia needs a kicking.

[@asherwiggin6456]

@@JinteiModding *2014

[@tgtterrorizor3407]

11:20 "Grendal, what have you done? You changed the future! You've created a Time Paradox!" [MGS3 Time Paradox plays]

[@Attaxalotl]

*Snake? Snake?! S N A A A A A A A A A A K E ! ! ! !*

[@UltimaDoombotMK1]

Imagine a full, 3d, canonical remake of Northern Wings which actually fits in and follows the story of all the current AC games, including 7, and with some other bits and bobs thrown in there, like the suggestion for Grendel to use ISAF planes during Mission 4. "Due to the fact that nobody must know we are operating in this airspace, you won't be flying with your standard planes. Instead, you'll all be flying undercover as ISAF pilots, with these ISAF F-16s."

[@badasstasticusbadass4908]

To be honest, i would love to have a game based on a "black ops" squadron that takes the important events along the series in a different view, Nordennavic is literally Anti-Belka if you think about it xD

[@Attaxalotl]

Having an ACNW 3D remake with the suggested tweaks would be awesome! And as for mission 7, I do like the idea of fending off a bunch of Belkan aces to stop Razgriz's job from becoming even harder.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

Can you imagine both teaming up before General Resource and Neucom take over the world? 😎

[@CreamTheEverythingFixer]

Mission 10 is tricky. The "shield" could have been a prototype for what would became the APS in AC7, Grunder Industries would have needed to live test its capabilities before putting on the Arsenal Bird.

[@MrJoz08]

Belkan: let's create weapons that lead nations to war... Nordennavic: let's secretly influence others to go to war so they would not go to war with us... Oh boy I can see a really bad combination within these two if they decided to secretly partnered up... Although it really interesting to see if they did....

[@krosskreut3463]

Belka (and south belka) with yuktobania and nordennavic with osea , Lets start the second circum pacific war

[@pyroball602]

@@krosskreut3463 Yuktobania and Osea (at the same time): I DECLARE WA- wait what?

[@UltimaDoombotMK1]

That's not how it works. Nordennavic would only do that if the nations started asking for help. I think they might even send Grendel to attack Belka, to destroy their weapons and prevent them from spurring another war which could threaten their neutrality. Note: emphasis on "I think"

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

Belkan and Nordennavic teaming up? Sounds like this twisted game needs to be reset...

[@TheSkyGuy77]

It would probably be the last time the nations of Strangereal fight each other (before General Resource takes over everything).

[@beeter3588]

If Emmeria can’t detect enemies, how would they discover the AA Walker? After all, AC6 is full of holes.

[@RobertDecker417]

I hate this, but also love it at the same time.

[@lackusshock]

Wow. Grendel were the true Faceless Soldiers of Strangereal. Also Grendel, the monster from the Legend of Beowulf, is a surprisingly fitting name for the team.

[@legonakonow]

Ah yes, Mission 10 where Grendel 1 fights off a Metal Gea...AAA weapons platform

[@SolutusEversol]

Strigon118 a weapon to surpass metal gear!!!

[@Attaxalotl]

*Hmmm colonel, I'm trying to sneak around but I'm in a plane and the sound of the VTOL engines is alerting the guards*

[@tipoima]

Can't wait for whenever you get to Skies Of Deception. Which is, considering that the game is almost the latest in the timeline, second only to Electrosphere, probably gonna be a year or two after the canon date the game is set in.

[@virgilio6349]

Wasn't it a modern take on Ace Combat 2?

[@tipoima]

@@virgilio6349 No, that was Assault Horizon Legacy (not to be confused with regular Assault Horizon)

[@Attaxalotl]

@@tipoima AHL was actually REALLY good.

[@OscarKesh]

Mmmh. People always compare Ace Combat to Metal Gear. And I'd love to fight giant walking AA tanks in a 3d ace combat game. So I consider mission 10 canon

[@SolutusEversol]

Oscar Keshishyan a walking metal gear would be an awesome addition to the Ace Combat flying superweapons most of the pilots have to fight on a daily basis! Lol

[@pyeitme508]

@@SolutusEversol So how will modern 2019AD USA(under Trump's leadership and including the states of Hawaii and Alaska) accidentally teleported to Strangereal Universe about a year after Ulysses Impact Event or a month after the end of the Lighthouse War? That also includes the thousand of bases operated by the US. Hope u can make a fan video about it, this might be LOL!

[@ismaelassassin]

Ace Combat 3 Has those

[@plague6566]

@@SolutusEversol A flying metal gear that launches drones fire lasers can go to space and spams AAMs

[@lackusshock]

There was that one time they had Godzilla in a Ace Combat game. So they do know how to make bipedal giants firing beams from the ground.

[@divecolosio4988]

Well, the environment of the NW's mission 10 were looks sandy, Razgriz straits were.... Bunch of ice cre.... Sorry, icebergs! Also, the Anean Continent is so close to the North Pole! (Indeed i haven't get a SR map that shows not only South Pole) While mission story wise it's doable, environmentally....i guess no.

[@SolutusEversol]

Dive Colosio a couple of Belkan nukes will turn that desert into an ice field in no time

[@ciphowler8370]

Interesting video, it has helped me understand the story of "Northern Wings" more throughly given (at least the last time I looked) Acepedia had very little to go on, most likely for the sake of minimising spoilers as much as possible. I do believe 9 of the missions, as well as the little bits of lore mentioned throughout can fit into the current cannon. Albeit with minor alterations. For one, Grendel Squadron would not use the NRAF's own planes, let alone in their own colours and insignia. Instead they'd be flying ISAF, OADF and REAF aircraft hide Nordennavic's involvement in these conflicts, plus the squadron would have to operate under different callsigns to hide the identities of the pilots incase of capture. Mission 7 of course is complete bogus since it obviously contradicts the established continuity ...Unless Blaze just so happens to be an elite Nord pilot which probably explains why he's pestering Bartlett with orders in the first missions lol Hey Solutus, just came across your channel, and as an Ace Combat fan myself, I've really enjoyed your content thus far. They're well-narrated, and the drawings while simple, do still perfectly illustrate the events explained in your videos. I do hope to see more great stuff from your channel. ^^

[@SolutusEversol]

I’m glad we both agree that mission 7 is bogus lol. & thank you :)

[@Zeknif1]

With Mission 10... lets remember that they found out about Chandelier from a civilian who appealed to the humanity of an elderly, grounded Estovakian Air Force officer and ace pilot... While he would be in position to be privy to the existence of Chandelier, interservice rivalries could have left him in the dark about the Metal Gear.

[@j.d.x.5797]

i love the comparation between dates of Northern Wings and AC time line... very fine work!

[@SolutusEversol]

Ace Combat Models by JianDaoXiao thank you :)

[@cac_deadlyrang]

I feel like Emmeria was too busy with Chandelier to fight off the Giant Antlion

[@truenothefox]

What if Northern Wings is actually a set of rumors about how Nordennavic may have influenced some events instead of actually being true depictions? Some of the missions could fit into the canon, just like some rumors can be fairly plausible, while other missions are just false, also like some rumors.

[@Sierra-208]

I can see that being the case, Strangreal probably has conspiracy theory sites like ours since they have the internet as well so the real missions of Grendel Squadron may have been twisted over the years with their exploits being imbelished with each retelling, kinda like how it happens in our world.

[@katboi7140]

That would actually fitted the "black ops" theme of the Grendel Squadron

[@dragostorm5947]

Even if the Nordennavic story was a contradiction in some parts of the Ace Combat timeline, I would've really liked to see a Northern Wings in the traditional Ace Combat style. It would have been cool to fly the fictional aircraft along with the real-life ones as well as to fly the Arkbird. I imagine the Arkbird mission in the traditional style would be akin to a precision bombing mission. Mission 4 would force the player to only choose a standard aircraft painted in the scheme of an ISAF operative, and have them blend into one of the task forces as a random named pilot. Also I do agree that Mission 7 was way out of its way to change the timeline, and that a mission to intercept and destroy a Belkan squadron tasked with providing air support to the Arkbird while watching over to make sure Razgriz/Arkbird doesn't get targeted would have worked better to maintain/add to a story's canon. For Mission 10, a VTOL mechanism that can allow a plane to hover in one place could be an optional strategy for the player other than to stay low to the ground and hiding around the mountains while risking crashing in a fashion similar to the canyon flight missions, and I feel that as crazy/far-fetched as the Antilon system is, I feel that if it had an underground hangar made of radar-blocking materials, it could just pass by Emmerian satellites/surveillance planes and stay unknown until the point where they pull it out as a last resort to interfere with Garuda team's mission to destroy Chandelier by sending long-range attacks. Grendel 1 would just be flying around for most of the first half, gathering data while avoiding being detected by enemy radar, then when the mission update pops up, and targets appear, Grendel 1 breaks cover and attacks the Antilon directly while avoiding its anti-air weaponry, and large movement. A primary objective would be to disable the Antilon's shield system by shooting what I imagine would be the energy projectors mounted around the Antilon and then taking out its legs to stop its movement before targeting the TLS and then finally in true Ace Combat fashion, fly in through a small opening burst open by consecutive attacks and destroy the core inside before flying out. Just some thoughts on how some missions can be tweaked to create a timelime that stll can be considered canon

[@DerangedGodOfMischief]

What if Nordennavic turns out to be the twist villains of Ace Combat 8 , secretly masterminding the war of the week and causing the deaths of millions to neutralise an imagined threat and Grendel Squadron is the final boss? But instead of valiant heroes they're creepy jingoistic killers who; to keep themselves sane from all the dirty black ops skulldudgery they've done; have justified every act of violence as their victims deserving it. Day in and day out, someone else is killed without warning or provocation for king and country. And after all the years of secrecy, murder, deception, and violence, there's nothing but arctic cold in their souls. The irony is that none of the countries would have ever thought of attacking Nordennavic if it weren't for the aforementioned skullduggery, so the beating they get in the last act of the story is something they brought upon themselves. Grendel One dies having brought war to his country as the Allies storm its capital to dig up every dirty secret of the past few decades. Plus I mean, people who spend decades murdering other people in secret with no direct provocation are probably going to be more than a little psychologically disturbed. You'd need to compartmentalise your empathy to live with the guilt of Grendel Squadron's work so it wouldn't be hard to turn them into villains. As for the final dogfight, as far as I know Ace Combat's never had a final boss that's a squadron vs squadron fight. Especially not with an entire squadron of super planes. The closest comparison would be the dogfights with Hugin and Munin, but this would be an endurance match against a dozen or more black ops death squaddies who've shot down thousands of aircraft between them over the course of more than twenty years. It'd definitely be a very unique final boss; but if you really need a superweapon to give it some flair, they could have some airship mobile base come in to support them.

[@SolutusEversol]

Fool! You thought it’s was Belka all along. But it was I, Nordennavic!

[@DerangedGodOfMischief]

​ Solutus Eversol I could see the big surprise being that at first you think the conspiracy is the work of the Grey Men, but it turns out that Nordennavic knows the stereotypes about Belkans just like everyone else does and was setting them up as the fall guy. They didn't even have to do much to shift suspicions, just feed the right bits of intelligence regarding actually existing Belkan ultranationalist cells and sneak some supplies to them. It's a simple, but clever deception that works because you're so convinced that conspiracies and ultranationalism are a Belkan, Erusean, Leseathan, or Estovakian thing you never stopped to think about how any country can go down the same path of paranoia and cloak and dagger skulduggery with the right conditions. It'd work well with Ace Combat's themes.

[@caav56]

@@DerangedGodOfMischief Absolutely. When the truth leaks out, imagine some survivors of the old enemy squadrons (Alect, Grabacr, Strigon) taking it to skies one last time to fight against Grendel for all the death and destruction they've done. Imagine those survivors using superplanes of their times (or just thematically appropriate) - Alect survivor uses a last copy of fully-finished Fenrir (with autonomous optical camouflage, but no HPM and only two LSWM), Grabacr survivor uses a copy of ADFX-02 Morgan (with TLS falling off rather early in the battle and ECM being too outdated to work reliably) and Strigon uses CFA-44 Nosferatu (ADMM have problems tracking and his aim is not terribly good, making EML shots miss pretty often). Even though the times have changed and those superplanes aren't as super anymore, the survivors are still willing to give it their all.

[@Attaxalotl]

Imagine that Nordennavic was somehow behind the Belkan war, which caused most of the other conflicts in the series not directly tied to Ulysses. If the Belkan war never happened, then the Circum-Pacific War wouldn't have either, Osea would have never lost the Arkbird and wouldn't have built ISEV until much later; stopping the Lighthouse War. Also there's evidence that the Usean coup d'etat was orchestrated (or assisted) by Belka to get some field trials in for ZOE. which they only invented because they lost most of their ace pilots to some madman in an F-15.

[@Attaxalotl]

@@caav56 Imagine if you get to play as a Belkan pilot, fighting alongside squadrons and aces from Yuktobania, Erusea, Leasath, and Estovakia; all to avenge the wrongs done by Nordennavic and Grendel squadron.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

So Nordennavic is Strangereal Switzerland? Cool 😎

[@ramosgonzales2691]

We could say so, but Ustio its a mix between Switzerland and France

[@Asian_Boi_242]

When Northern Wings 2 drop, Grendel will take down both Arsenal Birds at the start of the Light House War and one of them will be piloting Pioneer 1

[@trainknut]

So you're telling me, the game about the infamously neutral Nordennavic, protecting their neutrality... Doesn't feature a mission involving the Yukes putting a nuclear sub in their waters, and only has three missions involving the massive wars that happened just a few miles from their borders? But they had time to fuck around in Osea while Razgriz/Wardog weren't looking, because that makes sense.

[@Lucas-pw2ni]

I hope that bandai namco makes a remake of this game. (But then with the Canon timeline.)

[@DoomFoxofDeath]

11:22 I laughed way too hard at this sequence

[@PS3PS2fan]

[@plague6566]

Did you know you can hear someone say something about Galm 1 in the chandelier mission? It wouldn't be suprising if Grendel was there too

[@azzayoba]

This was very interesting. I'd like to see more Strangereal events and countries that receive little attention Subscribed! :D

[@SolutusEversol]

Azzayoba thank you Azzayoba! I can confirm that the next video will be covering an event with not a ton of attention. But that’s all I can say :)

[@mengo0456]

Erusia's plan of shooting down a formation of cargo planes with refugees to keep it a secret sounds very logical, must be canon.

[@NayaChann]

You remind me of one of my favorite history channels! I’m subbing to you man keep this up!

[@cloudmangalm03]

Did you say four-legged walking laser weapon system? *A weapon to surpass Metal Gear...*

[@tennoshenaniganizer9234]

So basically it wasn't the belkans, it was the not-vikings? I also love the design of their planes. Like space fairing raptors

[@moalzaben5554]

2:58 u are right about Emmeria being a republic, but there still a royal family present and I do believe the emmerian head of state is a king, but the country is like the UK where the royal family holds limited power compared to the emmerian political council

[@SwordlordRoy]

"Ace Combat 5, which is my favorite in the series." A man of culture I see.

[@doom7ish]

So, Switzerland in Strangereal?

[@ryanoneill7560]

Is it bad that all I could hear at the end of this was the soundtrack from AC7? I've just dubbed it Trigger's Theme lol

[@dalesheen1816]

So they are super-Switzerland? Awesome! :D

[@nikoladedic6623]

As long as they change the design of the weapon, then yes. I agree that Mission 10 is canon.

[@razor_5982]

Thank you for talking about Strangereal's history!

[@SolutusEversol]

:)

[@SiliconChipCookie]

What if Razgriz squadron was a propaganda made by some freelance journalist from Sand Island and they never existed? And that, Nagase and the others never escaped, just common fighter pilots working closely and blindly with Thunderhead in the airforce and were actually promoted as the Razgriz squadron members by Mr. Cargo and Genette to uplift morale? Or that Grendel squadron were Razgriz all along? They never flew again because the real Razgriz fly for Nordennavic. But that's just a theory! A heretical theory!

[@airwaveraptor125]

BROTHER! GET THE FLAMER! THE HEAVY FLAMER!

[@phumphitchayut9020]

They were 3 things that I were think about Ace Combat: Northern Wings: 1) Mission 10 is “absolutely fit to the Ace Combat canon”. 2) Mission 8 must be removed from the story, So that the Nordennavic could not “fell guilty” for their actions. Instead, Mission 9 will be redesigned as Mission 8, while the new Mission 9 story will be like this: Grendel squadron will escort the aircraft that have the VIP inside. Later, its turn out that VIP is an Emmerian Agent who have to reported the Emmerian command about the location of the Estovakian Aerial Command Cruiser, called P-1112 Aigaion. This will lead to the Ace Combat 6 mission 9. 3) Some missions should changed its story so it could fit with the Canon. - Mission 4: Grendel squadron were send to destroy the Experimental Anti-Air Laser Systems that hidden inside the mountains to open the route for the ISAF air forces, led by Mobius 1, to destroy the Northern Eye radar stations. This mission must happens, hours before the ISAF attacks on the radar stations. - Mission 5: Nordennavic should order their astronaut to fire the arkbird laser weapons on the 2nd Yutobanian fleet that en route to the sand island base, yet undetected by the Osean military. So, Grendel squadron will going in to mop-up the remaining fleet. - Mission 7: Grendel squadron were task to destroy the Grey Man’s escort fighters that were send to protected the Arkbird, to open the rout for the razgriz squadron to destroy the Arkbird. Yet, Grendel squadron have to face against the Grey Man’s top ace fighters to prevented them from reaching the Arkbird before the Razgriz.

[@MISTERX_5890]

I don't think 10 is Canon. I'm sure the Strigon Team would have been called upon if a Unknown Fighter in a Advanced looking plane appeared and attacked Estovakian Defenses as the Strigon Team was at Chandelier P.S. edit: 9 should be a maybe cuz wouldn't have Grendel Squadron run into Numbus Missiles and the Strigon Team if they were at Gracemaria?

[@fredo0084]

Haha the voice over of ISAF is funny

[@Attaxalotl]

With a few minor plot tweaks, this would make a GREAT 3d game!

[@purebloodred3739]

I think NW:Mission 10 would make sense due to no missions in AC:6 having a mission to do with a 4-legged walker and Garuda Team not being damaged on arrival because Ghost Eye would have pick up on the walkers position, so in the end, yes Mission 10 is canon

[@Homerboy44]

Looking at Mission 8, and 9 as a response, at least the Nordennavic Air Force show some regret over their secret involvement going wrong; unlike the Belkans.

[@Atzeonik]

I actually had this game on my phone as a kid

[@EpicThe112]

Interesting and for one of the combat aircraft they produced the V50 it's likely to have being license produced in North Point ISAF base as the BAE Tempest.

[@randalflagg3765]

Mission 10 literally happens on April fools day. I don't think I need to say anymore.

[@azeria1]

Grendal could hide everything by pretending to be mercs years of doing these things would give them a reputation but have them be really pickey about what jobs they take

[@hyperkid321]

i say mission 10 can fit, but with some tweeks. I always found it weird that a massive formation of Emmerian non-stealth aircraft were able to make it to Northern Estovokia unscathed.

[@YTSirBlack]

So, Nordennavic is the Italy of Strangereal, Italy too has military that what they do is defend the country.

[@redtsar]

Never heard of this, big fan of the AC series, my first game was 04 (my favorite game to this date) and played every single one afterwards Personally I would love a remastered version of this game for all platforms with more missions added to it and to fix the missions that don't work in the AC History I think the last mission is a great idea but not the way they executed it Not the walking machine thing, nah, Emmerian intelligence agency would have been able to pinpoint that thing Maybe something like flying through a tunnel (every AC fetish) to destroy Estovakian air defense mainframe that would have obliterated Garuda and allied forces from entering the airspace of Chandelier That's my thought anyways

[@ryanc00p3r3]

wait so Blaze as a ability to land a Freaking Fully armed F-14 Tomcat into a highway just to drive his plane into a OFC drive true for ordering a bucket of chicken wings? seriously blaze is different like Trigger isn't he?

[@SolutusEversol]

Pretty much. Blaze was the Osean gigachad

[@reynardop7615]

I know this was a year ago, but heres what i think about mission 10 I dont think its possible, unless estovakia is freaking rich They have a lot they need to back, the chandelier, their fleet of that big ass airplanes, not to mention their own army They went through Ulysses, civil war, its already a miracle that they have enough army to invade emmeria. Unless they have a secret stockpile of golds, they wouldnt be able to make a walker like that

[@franzicoy]

Belka built Estovakia's Aigaion, so the walker may also be Belkan-made, considering that much later, Osea and Erusea use the shield technology from the walker. The former for the Arsenal Birds, and the latter for the Alicorn's barrier drones.

[@EpicThe112]

Arakvr V-55 in ISAF Air Force it's called BAE Tempest

[@JeffreyBarkdull]

They should remake this game, but this time make so it can fit in the canon timeline

[@thegardenofesim1174]

I just discovered this amazing channel Time to stay

[@aetherresonant9079]

new headcanon that blaze is an avid fried chicken fan i don't make the rules i just enforce them

[@overlordaren9483]

Hey Solutus Great Job At Explaining A Pain In The Back Game That Is The Ace Combat Northern Wings And Also I Agree With You Mission 7 Is A Bullcrap Both Mission 5 & 7 Needs A Altercation Especially On Mission 7 Heavily Altercation Just To Keep Itself Inside The Canon Timeline It Would Be Good If The Devs Decided To Remake The Northern Wings But Alter It To Perfectly Match The Canon Timeline With Other Mission Being Alter A Little Bit Don't You Agree

[@SolutusEversol]

😁👍

[@overlordaren9483]

@@SolutusEversol Though Personally I Wouldn't Mind Watching A What If Strangereal Alternate History Video You Talking About Alternate History Of The Strangereal World

[@overlordaren9483]

@@SolutusEversol Don't You Agree Solutus

[@overlordaren9483]

@@SolutusEversol Though I Wonder What If You Have You're Very Own Nations In Strangereal World Where You Rule Your Own Nation If You Wonder If I Have My Own Idea For Such A Thing Then Yes I Do If You Wanna Know More About It Just Ask I Don't Mind It

[@ChrisGuzmanS]

yeah more of this

[@aliultimate009]

I think UPEO is similar to this nation except that Nords don't interfere originally unless they're pressured like mentioned in the video.

[@flapflapflapflap]

11:56 Blaze: Uhm, i'd like a bucket of original recipe! Cashier: *What????* Blaze: I said a bucket of original recipe!!!!

[@thiccchungo1041]

If we’re talking about Blaze it’d be: Cashier: would you like a bucket of original recipe Blaze: YES => Cashier: and a drink? Blaze: YES => Cashier: anything else? Blaze:

[@flapflapflapflap]

@@thiccchungo1041 Cashier: Okay proceed to next window please! [PRESS START TO SKIP]

[@andrewrogers3067]

Fantastic premise being able to play as the people who start a war, as opposed to your typical heros Too bad the execution and the game itself....Well....Sucked.

[@mgpmisterk2322]

i hacked my psp to install a java emulator on it just so i could play northern wings, couldnt really think of any other way to get my hands on it, i really hope they retcon stuff and change dates to make northern wings canon, and maybe make a proper nordennavic spinoff game in the future, perhaps for the next handheld sony comes up with or something

[@xnomdfrost1938]

nice!! why does Grendel 1 seem to be the best Ace since he operates in secret?

[@JamesRT1291]

Is it messed up of me to wish that there might have been a mission or two that were assassination missions. Like to be a unknown boggie who shot down oh I don't know..... Mobis One, Blaze, Galm 1, or maybe Tailsman. Like they saw something they shouldn't or Nordennavic thinks that having that skilled of a pilot on the loss is a security liability (I can definitely see it for Galm 1 the Demon Lord, since he's a mercenary and has no loyalties to any side having that skilled of a pilot with no leash or collar is kinda dangerous)

[@alexanderross8462]

Lets be real, Nordenavic is like the Sweden or Switzerland of Strangereal because of theur Neutrality stance :3

[@moalzaben5554]

Wait a minute time out. Could Cipher and Phoenix be Nordennavians? Think of it both of them are mercenaries aka guns for hire, they fly for any Air Force if payed a good wage, so maybe the Nordennavian government secretly established fighter pilot program that turns ordinary people into deadly mercenaries and then send them out to any conflict that might threaten nordennavic’s neutrality, think of it guys look at Belka they might’ve threatened nordennnavic’s neutrality and same thing with the usean rebels they wanted to launch an ICBM at the Yukes so the same thing could’ve happened to the nordennavians. I dunno it’s just my thinking

[@dtbeagle]

First off. Ace Combat 5 is very tricky. See the entire story is narrated from an outside point of view, not from Blaze's. And we all know that Osea has a thing for embellishing the truth to make them look good. Therefore it could be possible that the Arkbird was never downed by Osean forces, but Osea took credit for it.

[@moalzaben5554]

What if the Estovakian military junta went even further and more insane by invading Nordennavic, I do believe the Nordennavians increased their military presence along the emmerian border to prevent a possible stovie invasion that would’ve been the case considering the threat that Estovakia posed with their aerial fleet, the flag ship of the aerial fleet the aigaion that carried the nimbus cruise missile, the chandelier, the mighty estovakian navy which was armed to the teeth along with the aces of strigon team. I do believe that did happen during the Emmeria-Estovakia war. This is not confirmed ofc, but what if actually happened, the possibility is high, and also what if things escalated into a military standoff which could’ve been possible as well considering the estovakian military junta were extremely hostile

[@tgtterrorizor3407]

It won't play past 20 seconds, wtf?

[@andrewrogers3067]

Fine on my end. Think it's your connection

[@tgtterrorizor3407]

@@andrewrogers3067 No, it's definitely something wrong with KZbin itself. Connection is fine, even reset my device, the video is just stuck on an infinite buffering cycle. Once again KZbin and Google have showed how stupid they van be.

[@Holo1470]

Erusea try not to shoot down foreign diplomats challenge (impossible)

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

Fam, they retconned so much that it wouldn't be hard to change some details to get this to fit. Great video anyway, always heard the game sucked but this looks cool.

[@armoturo7578]

Northen Wings just feels like Nordennavic propaganda and im all in for it

[@rsookchand919]

I can only assume Nordenavvic is hiding some shady stuff if they trying to rewrite history

[@svicide4907]

Some people said Northern Wings was more like a bad fan fiction. Having Grendel destroy arkbird confirms that

[@SevereWeatherCenter]

Yep I really love is come at five as well it was my favorite game ever and I started playing in a 2005 a year after when it first came out

[@aureusknighstar2195]

Anybody else think that the Grendel Squadron is behind the Wellow Incident?

[@moalzaben5554]

But weren’t all the unidentified aircraft shot down because I remembered reading about the wellow incident and all those unidentified aircraft entering belkan airspace were all shot down by the belkan air force’s silber team. If we want to assume Grendel squadron then we might think that the Nordennavians secretly teamed up with the Wellowans and sent in their air forces into Belkan air space to probably test out the rapid reaction time of Belkans, Grendel might’ve been the only ones to escape while the wellowans weren’t so lucky, so after the incident I presume Wellow and Nordennavic’s intelligence agencies passed this info to the Osean Federation so that A) they fund Ustio’s succession and train their military in how to counter the belkans or how to slow them down, B) so that Osea would be prepared for a future war with Belka if necessary, but Belka easily invaded Osea and the rest of the nations nearby in the first stages of the war, so maybe the Allied nations used the knowledge they gained from the Wellow incident to counter the Belkan Air Force. After all, neutral countries will do anything to stay neutral even if they have to cause havoc, and neutral might use their intelligence agencies to work with Osea’s CIA and Yuktobania’s KGB to help them out and thin return the neutral countries stay neutral. What do u think mate?

[@maj.romuloortiz7832]

To be fair, I was busy chasing drones down so in theory a lucky missile shot from an unknown source coulda killed the Arkbird

[@fredo0084]

That's rude indeed

[@zt9669]

I think if you tweak the missions a little I think it would make a good ace combat 7 dlc.

[@hightiernub1313]

What if there planes are highly advanced enough to be undetectable on radar!? ISAF had issues detecting stealth fighters. This is a F-22/F-23 combined!? So double the stleath!!!

[@threestrikes1442]

I don't think mission 10 is canon because if it was then Grendel 1 would've had to Fight The Strigon Team

[@franzicoy]

Strigon Team may be used to protect Chandelier from enemies already weakened by that giant AA system. And if Strigon Team was deployed against Grendel 1, a few members may accidentally get cooked by the laser from the AA walker.

[@moppypuppy781]

Is Nordenavic a strangereal Switzerland?

[@pyroball602]

11:21 Wait, did that just hit the WING of the Arkbird? If so, I may have an explanation for the inconsistency. *BOTH* took down the Arkbird. You see, if Razgriz JUST destroyed the engines, there is still the wings they have not clipped. It could potentially glide, like the Arsenal Bird. That's where Grendel come in. Remember the Arsenal Bird Mission, and how you had to destroy the joints? Razgriz destroy the engines, while *Grendel clip the wings by destroying the connections.* Easy explanation for the contradiction.

[@FunnyStripes]

Technically impossible and still conflicting, because just after the Razgriz destroys the emergency engine that was keeping the Arkbird's rear barely above the water, the following cutscene shows the Arkbird stalling and falling rear-first into the ocean like an heavy sack of potatoes. It was unable to glide in the first place because of the weight of its own (destroyed) engines bringing it downwards.

[@Risen_Star]

To think that AC7 took place 3 years after this one and it only ended not too long after AC6. We humans never change, even in video games. Also: I want to know what the equivalent of KFC is in Strangereal. I also wish for it to have aircraft parking.

[@camrsr5463]

yeah it will fit if they re release the game. Build the story to make it fit. (I'm looking at u Pokemon!)

[@AvroBellow]

Mission 10 of NW could easily fit into canon. They didn't encounter Garuda squadron directly because Garuda was busy dancing with the Angels. LOL

[@christianmunoz6847]

Umm idea they took credit for downing arkbird, because razgriz was supposed to be hidden remember, So they took the heat. Posing as Oseans

[@samuelmoua1366]

Mabe Razgriz did destroy the ark bird but they used that Nordennavic squadron as a replacement talk because Razgriz was still a secret squadron by the Osean President. Razgriz was not known until 5 years later, when information about them was release to open public. Thats my thought of trying to connect the two.

[@TheWhoamaters]

In a surprise reveal in Ace Combat 8 they make Ace 5 non-canon and say Mission 7 is canon

[@Majima_Nowhere]

Hey, someone else whose favorite AC is 5! Zero and 4 are great, but 5 is the only one I've 100% completed. And I still go back to play it anyway.

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

Is belka still a populated nation?

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

How close was that walking shielded laser thing to Chandelier?

[@tmwarthunder1016]

Since it's huge, and it had shields, the Walker might as well be somewhere between the Garuda Squadron and the Chandelier. It might as well be the first line of defense, hence it's shield technology

[@CallsignAegis]

Meanwhile at the OFC Razgriz hi can I have some C H I C K I N ofc of course I founded it funny Dead joke moment

[@VINNICENTE]

Mission 7 explanation is kinda true if the history of ace combat when razgriz was sent to buy 60 buckets of fried chicken and hired grendel to take down the arkbird

[@Flankertime]

In Northern Wings, Grendel 1 Shot Down the Arkbird, And In Ace combat 5, Razgriz Shot Down the Arkbird, This Doesn't Make Any Sense, Also In Northern Wings Mission 7 Is Canon. 11:20

[@trethestar]

Edge: Hey*munch munch* you think we should be helping them Blaze? Blaze: *munch munch*>No Edge: Welp you're the Captain*more munching*.

[@Oqualquer]

If u imagine, Grendel 1 literally could have meet every single protagonist of Ace Combat. Chiper and Pixy (probaly PJ also) Mobius 1 Blaze and the full Razgriz Squadron Garuda 1 and 2 Could've have even meet Trigger, Falco and Gryphus 1. Which means that every protagonist from Ace Combat knows about each other indirectly (if Nothern Wings is Canon and if Grendel 1 meet every pilot after combat with them).