Solving the Tomorrowland Problem

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Offhand Disney

Offhand Disney

3 ай бұрын

Listen, I’m not really much of a doer. I’m definitely more of a dreamer and may I just say I think I’ve dreamed up a great way to solve the Tomorrowland problem if I do say so myself. 
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@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk
@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk 3 ай бұрын
Just imagine… we turn Tomorrowland into peoplemover land… just a thought, but hit me up Disney
@JasonRBeing
@JasonRBeing 3 ай бұрын
"Tomorrow-Land Rover"
@JavaCake
@JavaCake 3 ай бұрын
Every attraction becomes the people mover
@JasonRBeing
@JasonRBeing 3 ай бұрын
@@JavaCake This reply is moving people, so its a PeopleMover too!
@TheUltima_Werewolf
@TheUltima_Werewolf 2 ай бұрын
​@@JavaCake People-Mover Mountain
@driggs2821
@driggs2821 3 ай бұрын
I think they should UNAPOLOGETICALLY AND UNIRONICALLY embrace the original ethos and aesthetic of Midcentury Modern, with all that entails. Imagine bringing back "Rocket To The Moon," with that aesthetic in mind, but update the writing and the ride experience to more closely reflect modern amusement technology. That glorious Sputnik and Mercury Redstone optimism! That explorer spirit!
@Hmfirestormz
@Hmfirestormz 3 ай бұрын
This is it! Now if only they had the creative balls to do it… one can hope😂
@HeyItsTim
@HeyItsTim 3 ай бұрын
Well said. Agree completely.
@tikitribe5715
@tikitribe5715 3 ай бұрын
Agreed! The future as viewed from the past. They used to have an entire revolving attraction dedicated to that. 😉 Bring back Carousel of Progress, but start in the 60’s-70’s and move forward from there. No height, weight, or ADA issues. And for the luvva Walt, BRING BACK THE PEOPLEMOVER!?
@HollywoodF1
@HollywoodF1 3 ай бұрын
Tens of people would come to see it.
@brittneyhauser3818
@brittneyhauser3818 2 ай бұрын
yeah! there's a lot of people that haven't been to the moon so it would be cool to take turns doing that at disneyland
@oakforestboys
@oakforestboys 3 ай бұрын
Man I absolutely love those vintage clips. So calming
@chrishintz1077
@chrishintz1077 3 ай бұрын
Yes. Will replay. Kinetic energy that is so lacking today. Dare I mention GE?
@foxyfoxington2651
@foxyfoxington2651 3 ай бұрын
Hearing that music makes me feel instantly more productive.
@dallonyeager3002
@dallonyeager3002 3 ай бұрын
Great video Dallin. I think aesthetically, Disneyland’s Tomorrowland’s best elements are the Retro-Futurism inspired things. It has this optimism, whimsy, and sleekness that is way more timeless than sterile and modern design.
@DeviousFink
@DeviousFink 3 ай бұрын
Yup. Roll it back to Disney's predictions in '55, employ modern technologies to make the rides fun and relevant, and leave it alone.
@himynameiscorey
@himynameiscorey 3 ай бұрын
And to stop relying on space travel as the theme. We at least have that now with Galaxy’s edge, so the cosmic travel theming has to go. Move Star Tours to Galaxy’s Edge, get rid of or at least enhance and retheme Buzz’s astro blasters, and outside of the space themes, autopia has to GO. Smelling gasoline from that ride is a thing of the PAST.
@colbystearns5066
@colbystearns5066 Ай бұрын
@@himynameiscorey They are replacing the gas cars with electric cars I believe, so that's a start.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 ай бұрын
Tomorrowland should be Mid-Century Modern "1958 to 1968" The time of the Space Race, Duck and Cover, The Transistor, Color TV, The Atom for Peace and of course bring back the Peoplemover in its full ORIGINAL glory, meaning second-story loading with the "Astro-Jets" back up on the second level for that great view of Disneyland again.......
@Btn1136
@Btn1136 3 ай бұрын
Mad Men: The Ride
@phillyguy199
@phillyguy199 3 ай бұрын
I mean, really? We are closer to mid century 2050, than 1950. Aren't there any fantastical tomorrowland ideas that could make great new attractions? Surely sci fi isn't dead?
@CaptCutshaw
@CaptCutshaw 3 ай бұрын
I'm old enough to have experienced Peak Tomorrowland and it was PEAK Tomorrowland. All the motion in the land (between the Monorail, People Mover, Skyway, Autopia, Submarine Voyage, Rocket Jets IN THEIR CORRECT LOCATION and even the rotating theater) had such a kinetic energy that you couldn't help but be excited when you walked in. I fact, it was the top land in the entire park. If they could bring back even a taste of that period, the world will be a better place. Oh, and never give up on your People Mover dream. It was as wonderful as you imagine, even better than the WDW version.
@heidihobear
@heidihobear 3 ай бұрын
You definitely nailed it. Tomorrow land needs to be a place to inspire people and education. A place you want to go to because how amazing it looks
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI 3 ай бұрын
All I really want in Tomorrowland right now is a fixed PeopleMover, a way to get Astro Orbiter back on the roof, Starcade, and attractions back in the Carousel, Magic Eye, and maybe even turn Pizza Planet back into an attraction. A large part of the problem is that so many spaces aren't being used to their full potential, if at all.
@bwheeler03
@bwheeler03 3 ай бұрын
Ways to fix Tomorrowland: Bring back People Mover, exact same track Have the whole land powered on solar energy Move out Star Tours, bring back Journey through inner space? The inner space idea still has legs Put Astro Orbiter back on top of People Mover hub Autopia vehicles go electric Bring back Starcade with cutting edge games Have new-release movies or short films play in the theater Redo sky buckets with travel to Batuu and to California Adventure, with a midway stop in Tomorrowland. Use Innoventions building to showcase science exhibits, refreshed yearly. Like a Kids Science museum. Add back a learning element to the land
@A.F.Whitepigeon
@A.F.Whitepigeon 3 ай бұрын
To get from Tomorrowland to Batuu, the new gondolas would have to go right over the castle. Not really feasible in terms of sightlines. I know Disney has been less careful about that lately, but I have to believe they won't touch the money shot down Main Street.
@bwheeler03
@bwheeler03 3 ай бұрын
@@A.F.Whitepigeon I was thinking about that too. Wondering if they went the long way around, maybe in front of small world, it might work
@driggs2821
@driggs2821 3 ай бұрын
I'm not going to pay $150 for tickets to a Disney theme park to sit in a movie theater for two hours.
@JasonRBeing
@JasonRBeing 3 ай бұрын
bring the original Carousel of Progress back to DL's Tomorrowland and give Magic Kingdom a "New Carousel of Progress".
@colbystearns5066
@colbystearns5066 Ай бұрын
I heard Autopia actually is going to make the change to electric vehicles so there's one to check off the list.
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 3 ай бұрын
I hate to say it, but I think the name Tomorrowland might be the snag in all this. Like others have said in the comments, today's "Tomorrow" isn't exactly as optimistic as the "Tomorrow" of the 50s and 60s (and even up into the 90s). I went to the Boston science museum a couple weeks ago, which was a ton of fun, but even so, their exhibits that look forward are more somber than the future exhibits I saw 20-30 years ago. So maybe Disney's Tomorrowland should be more of an homage to the retro-futurism of the past. I feel like Meet the Robinsons would be a good IP to use more too.
@brittneyhauser3818
@brittneyhauser3818 2 ай бұрын
yes! "tomorrow" kinda sucks these days 😅 hard to center a land around something that's become a bit bleak since the conception of the land
@hamiltoncox7651
@hamiltoncox7651 3 ай бұрын
As has been mentioned before, the post-war period as one of optimism. There was the expectation that humanity was on a march toward utopia and technology would make that happen. Tomorrowland was a reflection of that optimism. Now the expectation for the future is one of absolute dread with technology's only contribution being to lull us into a comfortable complacency with the coming sixth extinction. The future is a shabby dystopia full of abandoned dreams of tomorrow - just like Tomorroland. Way to go imagineers! You nailed it!
@fiercearmadillo6850
@fiercearmadillo6850 3 ай бұрын
Oof.
@sadewolfkitten
@sadewolfkitten 3 ай бұрын
What would you think about a solarpunk approach? It's futuristic, but also hopeful. Seems like it would be a perfect fit.
@AdCab77
@AdCab77 3 ай бұрын
The inner space ride was awesome!
@DannyD714
@DannyD714 3 ай бұрын
if they would just dust off the 1967 blueprints for tomorrowland,rebuild it,and call it "walt disney's vision of tomorrowland" i think everyone would be happy. it's what he wanted it to be,and that's all it needs to be.
@Mr17051963
@Mr17051963 3 ай бұрын
The year of 1977 was, for me, the top time to visit Walt Disney’s Tomorrowland! The creator genius and soul were still in every corner of that place. ✌️
@zacharyeversole
@zacharyeversole 3 ай бұрын
I really hope that somebody with some power at the company is watching this. Although if you think about it, tomorrowland is probably eerily accurate. The future will probably be full of abandoned buildings and the only fun to be had will be going on a nostalgia trip in a little submarine, or go kart, as we look around at the crumbling remnants of what was.
@richardharden4437
@richardharden4437 3 ай бұрын
Slightly dystopian, but accurate.
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 3 ай бұрын
IMO, the problem isn't changing Tomorrowland, it's changing the mindsets of others that every ride at Disney parks are "sacred". As an example, I imagine a number of rides in the space Autopia and the Submarine Voyage occupies, you don't need one huge Tron ride or anything like that, but 2-4 dark rides that are of smaller scale that eat up people and don't require stupid virtual queues or lightning lame (which they absolutely will be designed with).
@KhurtKhave669
@KhurtKhave669 3 ай бұрын
1,000,000% correct!
@stanfordite1
@stanfordite1 3 ай бұрын
Almost every ride at Disney parks ARE sacred. The subs should be changed back to their original form with the voyage to the North Pole complete with mermaids and the sea serpent. No one would complain about the return of the 20,000 Leagues version in WDW, too.
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 3 ай бұрын
@@stanfordite1 And thanks for proving my point.
@stanfordite1
@stanfordite1 3 ай бұрын
@@Mike__B I stand by what I said and despite what some say, Disneyland actually IS a museum and Walt actually said it during development. When I take over Disney and make it great again, I will also treat it as if it were a private club and only give the purists what they want. Everything will be done by asking "What would Walt do?" again like management did after his death even if that means being stuck in 20th century.
@driggs2821
@driggs2821 3 ай бұрын
@@stanfordite1 That is an incredibly poor business decision. Tell me something, champ: Which actual museum challenges, say, Universal Studios and Knotts Berry Farm for attendance? It's not a museum. It's never been a museum. It's an amusement theme park. Museums aren't theme parks.
@iilikeitlikethatii
@iilikeitlikethatii 3 ай бұрын
A compete overhaul of carousel of progress pls. Same story new animatronics and special effects and narration
@Dovaz921
@Dovaz921 3 ай бұрын
it needs to be the future of yesterday, the 1950s retro future
@maisler1
@maisler1 3 ай бұрын
My brother and I loved inoventions when we were young. I loved how they still used the rotating building at the time and I liked the little shows they had.
@kckat7500
@kckat7500 3 ай бұрын
I was 8 years old when 1966 Tomorrow Land opened and was my favorite land. It was so well laid out and executed. It's sad to see the bones of what once was still on display. You are spot on what it needs to return to this forgotten land to greatness. And buy all means and at any cost, bring back the People Mover!!!!!!
@user-cn6de7xe2o
@user-cn6de7xe2o 3 ай бұрын
Thank you- love this!! I went to Grad Night in 1977 and visited Disneyland for the first time since my family visited in 1967! My boyfriend (now husband) and I started visiting regularly- well, as much as we could as we live in SF bay area. I loved the era of People Mover, Submarine Voyage, Space Mountain and America Sings! I know some things can likely never return, but I sure hope this "forgotten land" gets some love and soon! 😃
@Undrave
@Undrave 3 ай бұрын
Man I agree! Tomorrowland should be a land of HOPE! Hope for a better world. Use the aesthetics of Space Mountain and spread it to the entire land with a secondary color in lights. But I also think they should lean into the retro-futurism and frame everything as being 'In the Space Year 2000!' just because it would be funny :p Also get Star Tour out of there. Just build a new version in Galaxy's Edge.
@shansangr
@shansangr 3 ай бұрын
Disney needs to bring back an optimistic future view-I agree. I think we are living through a 20,000 Leagues under the Sea theme. There are solutions to a better future, but we are not allowed to have them-Tomorrowland movie theme too. We are not being allowed to question and dream? It is strange.
@QuatroAtYale
@QuatroAtYale 3 ай бұрын
The sky tram, although older, was also part of the esthetic. You have moving Monorails, PeopleMovers, submarines, sky trams, the Carousel and even the Omnimover in Adventure, all moving at the same time, even before Space Mountain. Oh yeah, Autopia. Well, see, I was there, and I remember at least two Autopias... and they were dumb. If I wanted to travel in a car on a freeway, well, that's how we got to Disneyland. Along with the added bonus of being yelled at by my Dad. Yeah, not my favorite... well, not so much. Mission to the Moon/Mars, well, that was also cool, but Star Tours is better. And seeing real company names on the rides, TWA, McDonell Douglas and Monsanto (well, ok, again, not so much) just brought this marvelous fantasy even more into a real world. Hey, were you even alive in 1967? Still good stuff.
@Jaszi007
@Jaszi007 3 ай бұрын
16:01🤣The echo in that very DESPERATE sounding plea is what really does it for me. Bring it back, PLEASE!! 🤣 I was literally wheezing from how hard I laughed. 18:20 “And also has one of these bad boys circling it”🤣 20:05 COMEDY GOLD! All three of those bits.
@anitaknapp9222
@anitaknapp9222 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to see them mix the style of the retro futuristic Tomorrowland with the ideals of solar punk
@michaelschroeck2254
@michaelschroeck2254 3 ай бұрын
I like seeing the vintage photos of the TWA rocket…. And it’s highly themed chain link fence. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️imagineers got big bonuses that year!
@nf1nk
@nf1nk 3 ай бұрын
When I was little, I thought you could take the PeopleMover to the various rides in Tommorrowland but I did not know how you made it do that. I just wish they would use the empty spaces for something. Maybe even bring back the arcade as dated as that was. Put something in the old theater too.
@yorgle
@yorgle 3 ай бұрын
Go full 1960s Futurism. Even to the point of requiring cast members to be costumed to feel 60s. Think like the flight attendant(s) in the film 2001. That'd be awesome... also bring back the Peoplemover!
@GenJonesLife
@GenJonesLife 3 ай бұрын
I love and agree with your ideas, I'd also LOVE to see a retro futuristic Googie/Atomic Age Tomorrowland. I think that style will always have a futuristic and optimistic feel. I don't know if you've ever thought of this but actually with the line about " the hope for a peaceful and unified world" on the plaque I think the best place for Small World would actually be in Tomorrowland. Having said all that, my thinking now (with a recent announcement) is that they will completely dump Tomorrowland. I hope I am wrong but I could see Pandora there. Space Mountian, the subs, and Atopia could all be rethemed to Avatar and the rest just completely gutted. The sub and Atopia area is a big problem for them, but I could see both being themed to Avatar and solving that problem. Again I hope that I am wrong, but it's the first thing I thought of when I heard the Avatar Land announcement.
@foxyfoxington2651
@foxyfoxington2651 3 ай бұрын
5:57 Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-car monorail! What'd I say?
@NeonVR0708
@NeonVR0708 3 ай бұрын
Please do more of these!!!
@skycreeper0173
@skycreeper0173 3 ай бұрын
That was super freaking awesome! I really enjoyed this video.
@lucash5446
@lucash5446 2 ай бұрын
Such a thorough analysis!
@pault5557
@pault5557 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff! The way you describe an ideal Tomorrowland sounds like OG Futureworld at EPCOT, Horizons, Living Seas, the Land, Spaceship Earth, etc. THAT WAS THE TOMORROWLAND we needed and wanted! 🙌😎💯
@brittneyhauser3818
@brittneyhauser3818 2 ай бұрын
succinct and humorous! this may be my favorite video yet. you are so well spoken, entertaining, and relatable. thanks for all you do!
@udstyle
@udstyle 3 ай бұрын
20:03 Bring Back THE PEOPLEMOVER!!! How do we make this a movement?
@markfarey1292
@markfarey1292 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you about the people mover , I really miss it
@nicholasstamets1475
@nicholasstamets1475 3 ай бұрын
100% agree. Ideas and ideals are eternal. Make it about inspiring a walk into the future.
@CinnamonQuills
@CinnamonQuills 3 ай бұрын
Oh man...as a SoCal native who usually had an annual pass to Disneyland, you just reawakened how mad I was about the 90s era of Tomorrowland in me. Innoventions, the closing of the People Mover, the Rocket Rods.../eyetwitch
@profile2047
@profile2047 3 ай бұрын
I continue to watch your channel due to your constantly bringing up the people mover. I don’t understand how everyone doesn’t feel the way you do
@andyinmichigan9058
@andyinmichigan9058 3 ай бұрын
i like the retro future stuff more than the jewels verne stuff. I wonder what kind of things they could implement now that would seem futuristic to us that they could make an attraction?
@jimmyb.6272
@jimmyb.6272 3 ай бұрын
I remember peak Tomorrowland clearly. I remember thinking how amazing Adventure Thru Inner Space was. I enjoy your videos very much!
@elliedaniel5900
@elliedaniel5900 3 ай бұрын
OD, you and I see eye to eye on nearly every single thing. Thank you so much for putting all my thoughts into words. Your videos are spot on, well researched, and expertly presented. Thanks for giving an East-coast girl (and a former CM) a glimpse into all the other properties that I’ll never have the chance to visit. You’re the absolute best!
@binibby
@binibby 3 ай бұрын
A brief 14 minutes 😂 love that
@olivertaylor8862
@olivertaylor8862 3 ай бұрын
Nailed it in the head with the idea that Tomorrowland runs on ideas for the future. Goals and inspiration.
@dancrane2
@dancrane2 3 ай бұрын
It seems like everyone EXCEPT Disney knows how to fix Tomorrowland. Nice video Dalin.
@anthonysanlucas6437
@anthonysanlucas6437 2 ай бұрын
Love the videos. I so miss the People Mover and InnerSpace. Would love to see updated versions return.
@oblivieon1567
@oblivieon1567 3 ай бұрын
Solving the Tomorrowland problems isn't all that difficult, Disney just doesn't seem to want to do it. Most of it is already Retro-Futuristic so staying with that would work. Like you said it could be a nod to past and some predictions of the future, but nowadays they just want to plaster IP everywhere. Here's a start, Mission to Mars could come back in some form since a manned mission to mars is still interesting. The Captain Eo theater could utilize projection, lighting, and sound technology blended with the Finding Neo depth projection to deliver a glimpse of what a movie could be in the future. Like placing you in an Opera House, or a middle of a Hurricane, you get the idea. There's tech now that Autopia could give guests Manual or Self Drive options and have different paths with unique theming. Maybe different Disney Destinations, or if they went all out a few show buildings? Of course the People Mover could make a return.
@papapalps3513
@papapalps3513 3 ай бұрын
My honest thoughts on what should be changed regarding Tomorrowland: Tomorrowland was always a place to emphasize edutainment, educate people and children on the future and future technologies through attractions and entertainment. That idea has been so obviously lost to replace everything with IP and cheap, quick changes to save money. So with that in mind, here's what I feel would probably be best for Tomorrowland (this is my opinion so take it with a grain of salt). 1. Astro blasters has to go, keep the omni mover ride system and track layout and if possible try to keep the interactive elements to it, instead have it focus on fantastical and futuristic societies and cities. Again this is just like loose ideas so I'm not gonna go fully in depth but you get the idea. 2. Move Star Tours over to Galaxy's Edge, perhaps creating a more modern and better version of it over there. As for Tomorrowland, keep the current Star Tours system and focus on space travel, exploring the stars with tons of different adventures, open for hijinks and education at the same time. Also, the current jankiness of Star Tours' system works perfect as current space travel is a rough venture and so would add to how difficult space travel really is. 3. Move Astro orbiter back over to being on top of the People mover station and of course bring back the People mover. The People mover is too crucial to the structural integrity of the buildings, plus the aesthetic of multi layered, vertical transportation on the ground and off gives a great futuristic look to the area. Fix up the track, update it to modern standards and it could be very solid in improving the atmosphere of the land. 4. Bring back Carousel of Progress, modernize the show scenes and improve the animatronics and perhaps add scenes showcasing the future and the possible far future. The current one is already becoming outdated so it could work to bring a new and updated version to Disneyland. 5. Space Mountain is perfect as is, perhaps just remodel the outside show building to that of what Tokyo Disneyland is gonna do to just update aesthetics. 6. Bring back the theater, show a new film on the future, similar to Captain EO but a lot more modernized and futuristic of course. 7. Starcade could honestly just be converted into an exhibit showcasing newer technologies and things to come in the near future. 8. Now on to Submarine Voyage and Autopia. First with Submarine Voyage, either bring back 20,000 leagues updated to modern / future technologies or a new under sea adventure. Make it totally original with no IP and emphasize deep sea exploration technology and education on the ocean. With Autopia I genuinely have no clue what you could do as it's not something that can really be updated to the future, perhaps just a new attraction or experience showcasing the future of cars, a smaller version of Test Track I honestly don't totally know. 9. This would be like the secondary option to Autopia and Submarine Voyage and would almost 100% not happen, but just completely remove both rides for multiple brand new experiences. Or, and this won't happen but it's fun to think, bring Tron over to that area. Tron could be the big IP ride of the land and still focus on a realistic future that fits with the rest of Tomorrowland. Now of course the hard part is the monorail as it would be cutting right through that area but if they could make it work I feel that that could also work. Again all of this is my opinion so like I said take it with a grain of salt.
@alicemanning5368
@alicemanning5368 3 ай бұрын
The Golden Age of Tomorrowland was the best! I remember riding Adventures Thru Inner Space as a tyke and seeing the eyeball stare at me going through the microscope. What do you think of adding a Space 220-like restaurant in lieu of the empty building that houses the DVC lounge? That would be awesome!
@danipickard4612
@danipickard4612 3 ай бұрын
Let's get some Meet the Robinsons up in Tomorrowland man that movie is too good to have no rep in the park. "keep moving forward"!!!
@ThePassionOfTheMarc
@ThePassionOfTheMarc 3 ай бұрын
I love old school Disney footage, Sad that I remember a lot of these attractions! I'm olden!
@mikebenda
@mikebenda 3 ай бұрын
Being back the orange and white jumpsuits!
@Lauren.Wagstaff
@Lauren.Wagstaff 3 ай бұрын
PeopleMover! Can’t stop won’t stop
@thedadalorian6048
@thedadalorian6048 3 ай бұрын
Donald Duck chair returns with a new illusion!!! I love your work thank you for sharing your time!!
@j.r.shartzer
@j.r.shartzer 3 ай бұрын
Space mountain is "sleek, white, and pointed." Just like Dallin. I don't even know what that means. Once again, I shall show myself out....after watching your videos after drinking too much wine. And this, kids, is why Walt said "no booze in the Magic Kingdom." He was right! My shenanigans are perfect for Epcot, keep them out of the MK, Disney. 👍🍷😉😂 That guy who drunkenly climbed the pyramid in "Mexico" is a hero. The guy who exposed himself on Small World deserves the Deer Hunter POW camp treatment. I believe this more than anything. I love you all. PS. It's a red blend, in case you were wondering. PS to my PS: As a PNW boy, the shot of it raining at 13:48 makes me so happy.
@baystated
@baystated 3 ай бұрын
The crows perched on Space Mountain spires mess with the forced perspective illusions. 5:19
@neccron9956
@neccron9956 3 ай бұрын
Bring back The People Mover, and Inner Space (who doesn't like hearing Paul Frees narrating your trip through Inner Space).
@eabcool
@eabcool 3 ай бұрын
Tomorrowland 67' ! so sad they talk about new lands but they wont even refurb Tomorrowland at Disneyland.
@TheOwlCreek
@TheOwlCreek 3 ай бұрын
Fact: Bob Iger and Josh D'Amaro don't care about Tomorrowland. First step would be for those 2 to step down and bring in imaginers like Tony Baxer and Joe Rohde who actually want to respect Uncle Walt dream of Disneyland and get back to basics. Not just slap an IP on everything (Star Wars) and call it a day.
@MarvinMartinez2001
@MarvinMartinez2001 2 ай бұрын
The Fantastic Four could literally be the inspiration for Tomorrow as its most likely a movie that’s set in another world where the 60’s are futuristic retro futuristic if you will
@markwolfking258
@markwolfking258 3 ай бұрын
I'm a central Florida guy who is about to start going to Disney World again on a regular basis. That being said, one of the things that would make my millennium would be to bump into you at the Magic Kingdom during one of your visits. If that takes place, you've got a Haunted Mansion and PeopleMover riding buddy. As many times as you want. I find your enthusiasm and love for the parks refreshing. (And I agree with you in the spirit (intended) of the idea that The Mansion is one of the greatest things ever built. How rare is it that you get to ride through a work of art? I mean really.) Love your videos. Be well.
@bigcountry0331
@bigcountry0331 3 ай бұрын
Both Tomorrowland in DL and Hollywood land in CA are in dire need of an update/upgrade. Tomorrowland needs the carousel to be used. It’s a great spot not being used. People mover and its location is another unused spot but the damage from rocket rods could be a major cost that may be more than they are willing to pay. As for Hollywood land something has to happen with all that dead space that rarely gets used except for an occasional meet/greet or a party space
@sunkiiko
@sunkiiko 3 ай бұрын
I saw the notification for this an immediately just thought “you can’t” Amazing video though! I agree with you, and if anyone could give good insight and ideas it would be you. I need people mover :(((
@DodgerBlueRobert
@DodgerBlueRobert 3 ай бұрын
Yessssss. *LOVE* the Top Gear reference lol. The best show ever.
@KirinCheepCheep
@KirinCheepCheep 3 ай бұрын
Having videos on your patreon playing Disney games and going over Disney books sounds like a great idea! I’d definitely be interested in that if you go through with the idea
@TopherRocks
@TopherRocks 3 ай бұрын
5:06 I wasn't expecting surprise Halo in a Disney video.
@SLC6140
@SLC6140 3 ай бұрын
Tomorrow back then was full of optimism and exciting. Today, "tomorrow" is not so optimistic. In fact, IMO, Tomorrow is a very volatile, and yet fragile and uncertain place. I don't know how Tomorrowland could be updated and made to be an improvement.
@shay.exe.
@shay.exe. 3 ай бұрын
i personally think that if disney can implement a mesh of retrofuturism and mid-century modernism into tomorrowland it will really save it. i feel like ever since y2k happened, the optimisms of the future has just gotten worse and worse. but if something as big and influential as a disney park can promote a positive future, i mean who knows what could happen you know?
@SLC6140
@SLC6140 3 ай бұрын
@@shay.exe.​​⁠ great comment! And I love your optimism. I think I've lost confidence in Disney's ability to be positive. They seem to be injecting a very sad reality into everything. They've done some things well though so I'm not trying to totally trash them. But the future is very unstable right now and pushing reality on people is not the way to go. We need an escape, we need hope, and we need unity. Badly.
@hilltigger
@hilltigger 2 ай бұрын
Utopia land - Working on our balance with the universe, our planet, it's inhabitants. and with each other. The future will always change, but our seemingly eternal goal towards success as a species and it's relationship with our environment will never change. We need "timeless" lands that don't require us to constantly change. That is why the other lands work. Our current goals as an inhabitant of the world have splintered, where many, after realizing our vulnerabilities as a species, have turned to an "every person for themselves" mentality. We crave and need entertainment that gives a path and a focus on specific ways to get there = Utopia land.
@gabrielrush3492
@gabrielrush3492 3 ай бұрын
As you're planning to work Disneyland, so as of the leader of the team of the Walt Disney Imagineering, I'm going to reopen the ride known as the Rocket Rods with the new look of the entrance while leaving the ride the PeopleMover in Florida, and you can work for the Rocket Rods when it is reopen when the time has come. 😜
@RFLEEZYUBZ
@RFLEEZYUBZ 3 ай бұрын
You need to pitch more ride ideas. But I like that you are still trying to bring back the people mover. Lol
@oliviahansen5036
@oliviahansen5036 3 ай бұрын
"Fingers and toes crossed it looks similar to this!!! ᵃⁿᵈ ᵃˡˢᵒ ʰᵃˢ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵗʰᵉˢᵉ ᵇᵃᵈ ᵇᵒʸˢ ᶜᶦʳᶜˡᶦⁿᵍ ᶦᵗ " #BringBackThePeopleMover
@robatkins
@robatkins 3 ай бұрын
Disney could easily show what the future could be. Walt Disney surrounded himself with Futurists of his time. That’s how and why Epcot was so much on his mind. It would be extremely easy to do this. Talk to Futurists (I’m one of them), and I definitely enjoy what people call the Retro Futurism designs mixed with some sleek designs. Yeah the Tokyo new Space Mountain looks like a mix of what I’m referring to. Ideas stick around as long as those who keep the dreams alive stay alive. Once no one keeps the dream alive, then you get Tomorrowland of the 90’s. No creativity, no vision, no future. Heck they already killed Epcot of the 1980’s by making world discovery and all that. Also they should get rid of IP in Tomorrowland.
@ChromeOfTheFuture
@ChromeOfTheFuture 3 ай бұрын
You are so right I would love Tomorrowland to get a retro-futuristic reskin. However Tokyo’s new space mountain does NOT give me retro futurism at all.
@kevintamas3309
@kevintamas3309 3 ай бұрын
I love our People Mover at WDW. It will be 50 years old July 4th 2025.
@tikiviktor
@tikiviktor 3 ай бұрын
If I remember right the seats in Flight to the Moon / Mission to Mars would slightly “tilt” down towards the back of the seat to give the impression of actually launching..
@countrychic719
@countrychic719 3 ай бұрын
I would totally love a book club!
@phillyguy199
@phillyguy199 3 ай бұрын
The "Tomorrowland" problem is that Disney does not want to build new, non IP attractions. That's why Disneyland's Tomorrowland in particular is in bad shape. If they can shove some Tomorrow Land adjacent IP into the land, like Toy Story, they will, but until then or until a real leader like Eisner comes along, it will lie broken. It's a sad state of affairs. Perhaps Epic Universe will light a fire under Disney with Universal's non IP offerings like the Celestial core of the new park.
@WarholaSoup
@WarholaSoup 3 ай бұрын
retro future stuff is so dang cute
@advancetotabletop5328
@advancetotabletop5328 3 ай бұрын
As a baby boomer (: I’ll dissent that, while I liked most of the rides individually, I didn’t like the sterile shopping-mall-like look. I guess it made sense when Disneyland opened as a bunch of corporate display areas, but lacked character and detail, especially after the Fantasy renovation (after its 2.5D circus tent look). The Jules Verne look I liked best, since it had a personality (not that everyone agreed with it), reminded me of the Small World facade, and tied in with the Submarines. Another YT Disney video suggests that Tomorrowland will have a major overhaul, so that’s why it hasn’t had much attention. Although, yeah, I still want the PeopleMover! :D
@chapmanenigma2873
@chapmanenigma2873 3 ай бұрын
Ahhh, Tomorrowland that is not so much looking into our future (now a days). It’s a beast to tackle to figure out. Do we pull from our current world? Do we dare reach into the future? Inspiration for the future seems to what we may have thought Tomorrowland should be. --} Autotopia could have been a chance to start the steps into the rest of the 21st century & may be 22nd; with electric cars or hybrid cars. I would say, challenge the Disney Imagineers to come up with newness to Tomorrowland.
@larrysorenson4789
@larrysorenson4789 2 ай бұрын
In 1955 it was a vision of the future. It was exciting and optimistic. Then we got to tomorrow and the reality made Tomorrowland redundant. Now we must look further if the land is to remain relevant.
@conradtapdtacllc.4493
@conradtapdtacllc.4493 3 ай бұрын
What about a PeopleMover that travels from Tomorrowland to Galaxies Edge to Downtown Disney to Avengers Campus and back to Tomorrowland? It would be a great way to move guests around the resort while eliminating congestion during parades and other shows.
@Jay_one
@Jay_one 3 ай бұрын
I have never been to Disneyland but I absolutely adore the steampunk esthetics of Disneyland Paris.
@stanfordite1
@stanfordite1 3 ай бұрын
Here's how you fix Tomorrowland, Restore it to the way it was in the 80s with a few alterations. Peoplemover, duh Return of the Skyway Restoration of the Rocket Jets back on top of the Peoplemover platform Restore the Submarines to their original voyage through liquid space to the North Pole complete with the giant squid, mermaids, Atlantis, and sea serpent Carousel of Progress with a new final scene A newer version of Adventure Thru Inner Space or the return of the Endor Express aka the original Star Tours Restore the Starcade complete with the second floor Make Autopia two separate tracks again A new CircleVision 360 film In accordance with the Tomorrowland 2055 plans, the addition of Alien Encounter complete with the alien breath on your neck in the dark.
@Starflare5
@Starflare5 3 ай бұрын
A few things - Bring back the people mover into the format of Disney world's people mover. Update the monorail to a saddle track maglev and get rid of those tire and wheel maintainance costs. Get rid of the Carosel theater and replace it with Tron LCR. Oh, and get rid of Honda as the sponsor of Autopia. The Briggs and Straton engines were so much better, or, convert to EV.
@looperdehooper5870
@looperdehooper5870 3 ай бұрын
In a perfect world: -TL would have an overall atomic age feel -Update Buzz to reflect the new theme -Get rid of Star Tours. Replace Web Slingers with a Star Tours-style ride but with Marvel and replace Star Tours with an omnimover dark ride themed to Walt Disney himself. -Relocate Astro Orbiter to the top -People Mover (Duh) -Space Mountain refurbed -Incredibles themed Dream Works Theater style show in Magic Eye -Autopia and Subs earmarked for expansion, but the subs concept could be reworked into a Way of Water themed Avatar Land
@robinmichel9048
@robinmichel9048 3 ай бұрын
When I went to Disneyland last year (for the first time in 30 years) my thoughts about Tomorrowland were this, "I guess the future is concrete pathways and steel tubular handrails."
@jish55
@jish55 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, the only ways to really fix Tomorrowland would be to either go a completely different route and retheme it into something else, or go with a look of the past. If it were up to me, I'd either remake it into villains land, or if I had to stick to something "futuristic", I'd retheme it into Victorian style New York with brick buildings and go steam punk by adding giant cogs, where all rides will be steampunk themed.
@rocconorth
@rocconorth 3 ай бұрын
I was an avid park goer back in the late 90s/00s (2 days a week ave.), and never once rode the "Rocket Rods". Albeit It wasn't for lack of trying. It was a combination of bad luck and the damn thing constantly being broken down! The days it was working I'd put if off because of wait time or just wanting to go later in the day. Of course, later in the day, it broke down.
@reimagineering.tomorrowlan1505
@reimagineering.tomorrowlan1505 3 ай бұрын
I'm pickin up what you're puttin down
@6Sarag
@6Sarag 3 ай бұрын
Imagine a solar punk version of Tomorrowland
@coasters_bgw
@coasters_bgw 3 ай бұрын
18:10 I think it's gonna happen. The "big announcements" that they're having at the Honda center might include this. Wouldn't be surprised and DEFINITELY wouldn't complain. Unless it doesn't include the Peoplemover.
@phillyguy199
@phillyguy199 3 ай бұрын
None of Disney's blue sky announcements have ever hinted at re-imagined Tomorrowlands.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 3 ай бұрын
The Skyway and the Rocket Jets added to the energy of the land. Yeah, Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harris? were really bad for the park. I think they should rebuild the track for the People Mover and bring it back. They can leave the Astro Orbitor where it is but put something back where the Rocket Jets used to be. They don't have to redesign the land. There's no room for anything new. The should just fix the theme.
@attorneyrobert
@attorneyrobert 3 ай бұрын
I think that Tomorrowland could learn a lot from Modern Las Vegas. The led canopies, the hyperloop, the changing exhibitions...
@Mr.POTF2
@Mr.POTF2 3 ай бұрын
A book club would be awesome!
@genappithy
@genappithy 3 ай бұрын
I think the best sign that Disney is ready to do something about Tomorrowland would be if the sponsorships of Star Tours and Autopia ends, which could be as soon as 2025 and 2026. I doubt Disney would announce they are planning to bulldoze an attraction while it still has a sponsor and I doubt Disney would feel motivated to spend money to replace a ride while someone else is paying to keep it open But if in the next couple years those sponsorships end that could mean they have new things planned for the space
@richardharden4437
@richardharden4437 3 ай бұрын
Save Autopia, Monorail, Submarine, the Lagoon, and Space Mountain, unless you just want more discontent. Move Star Tours to Galaxy's Edge where it belongs. The rest of the buildings, the now grounded Astro Orbiter, the People Mover track, and the old Astro Orbiter launchpad, now home to a God awful steampunk art, demolished, they're old and need too much repair. Then retro ''50s/'60s Utopian Tomorrowland. Of course, bring back the People Movers. The original imaginer idea of the Astro Orbiter on the top of the People Mover track and launch was a great idea as a space saver. Make it fun, with some cool retro-future dark rides, including a new and improved Buzz Lightyear, and maybe a new Adventure Thru Inner Space. This plan will only need to be maintained.
@abigailallen4964
@abigailallen4964 3 ай бұрын
I also think they should add things like attractions or maybe something just atmospheric or resembles qualities of a perfect future
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