Some Basics Of Soldering And Broken Trace Repair (off the cuff and unscripted)

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lukemorse1

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@XeCuTioNR
@XeCuTioNR 13 жыл бұрын
This is why Luke is the man! Ive got to learn how to solder myself soon.
@Laughinggray
@Laughinggray 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for that. Just a small tip: don't cut the wire till you have soldered one side of it onto the board. Once it's attached on one side you can cut it and it will be easier to keep it in place and solder the rest of it to the board.
@GoInsaneJo
@GoInsaneJo 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke, I fixed a couple of broken traces on a mvs 4 slot today!!...you are awesome man!!
@RetroGameModz
@RetroGameModz 11 жыл бұрын
12:12 The flux core in the solder wire should be enough to tin the wire without any problems. Even after applying flux, you had problems getting the solder to flow onto the wire. The problem here is not too little flux, but the lack of heat transfer from the iron tip to the wire.
@RetroGameModz
@RetroGameModz 11 жыл бұрын
Both the solder alloy and the work have to be heated up in order for wetting to take place. You cannot heat up only the solder and expect it to flow onto the work and bond with it. It is referred to as "cold joints" when only the solder or only one of the joining components have been heated up to the melting temperature of the solder alloy being used.
@nectarousinferno
@nectarousinferno 11 жыл бұрын
This video is very informative! My brother usually does the pc repairs but he wants me to do things myself now =.= I had no idea what flux was for or how I would remove the old solder. THANK YOU SO MUCH =)
@RetroGameModz
@RetroGameModz 11 жыл бұрын
The reason your solder was lumped up into a ball on the wire was that you used an oxidized tip, which did not allow for enough heat transfer in order to make the wire heat up to the melting point of the solder alloy you were using. Plus, you only barely touched the wire with the edge of the tip which impaired heat transfer even futher. Better contact angle as well as a fresh iron tip is what you need. In conclusion, the lack of flux is definitely not to be blamed here. :)
@alecjahn
@alecjahn 13 жыл бұрын
And if you can't repair the trace... you can always painstakingly follow the trace to its start and end and run a wire across the board. I've definitely done that before... it takes a lot of patience and a good eye.
@joshuavideogames
@joshuavideogames 9 жыл бұрын
Man I have so many broken SNES games. Gonna have to get to work. Helpful video.
@Emperix
@Emperix 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Luke. I was wondering how to get the solder to cover the wire. Didn't realise that flux was needed.
@duzhang
@duzhang 13 жыл бұрын
Very nice Luke, now to complete this, can you put up a video on how to desolder, especially caps (the micro ones).
@doginmylense
@doginmylense 13 жыл бұрын
From now on I will tin my wires and buy some flux that will make thing much easier great tips.
@valeriepurcell5229
@valeriepurcell5229 9 жыл бұрын
This was such a helpful video for a newb like me! I feel like I can try to repair the motor on an art piece I love! THANK YOU!
@WickedClownNZ
@WickedClownNZ 13 жыл бұрын
this is awesome luke. and its bound to help out tons of people that havnt learnt to solder :) great vid here bro
@xbmc767
@xbmc767 11 жыл бұрын
I like your technique of applying flux then using an iron with a bit of solder to create traces. I recently used that method to fix some broken contacts for an NES game. Tinning the contacts with the flux method worked great; I just hope the repair will last... I have another problem now with an Action Max console with a severely corroded battery compartment; 4 C batteries were left to rot for nearly 2 decades and it's an unholy mess. I’m not sure how to handle that nightmare lol
@56kflyingtoaster
@56kflyingtoaster 13 жыл бұрын
great video always good to get some helpful tips from someone else
@stylze5767
@stylze5767 6 жыл бұрын
is it possible to solder wires to a trace? in my situation i order a racing wheel and through shipping they some how snapped the botherboard so half the buttons dont work im familiar with soldering and know the basics bu never have had to do this but is it possible to solder the traces to a wire so i can connect that wire to the other side of the mother board to fix the trace?
@aeneasfate
@aeneasfate 13 жыл бұрын
I tend to use metal kitchen scouring pads instead of soldering sponges for cleaning. There are different types though. I use ones that are flat ribbons woven like a chain-link fence. I'm not sure how well it would hold up for somebody who uses as much flux as you do though, I still use a soldering iron that's almost thirty years old. Also, do you use anything to replace the resin coating over your PCB repairs, or do you find it not worth worrying about corrosion around the area?
@pooptumbler405
@pooptumbler405 9 жыл бұрын
Great job spreading knowledge brother. No-Ledge. That stuff that lets people float... Sort of fly.
@RetroGameModz
@RetroGameModz 11 жыл бұрын
9:35 There is no such thing as "too much flux". Indeed, some types of flux can be corrosive, but there are also many other reasons for tip plating failures. Choosing a very mildly activated flux will not corrode it much. Proper handeling of the tip will also greatly extend its lifespan. Wipe the tip often on a clean sponge to extend its lifespan. You can also tin the tip before turning off the iron in order to prevent the tip from oxidizing due to having direct contact with air during storage.
@TheHighlander71
@TheHighlander71 13 жыл бұрын
Really cool this. Specially talking about flux is helpful. I've seen tips about reflowing chips or even entire pcb's using a heat gun. Some pcb's (ie the xbox 360 with the rrod) that fail can be fixed by reflowing the whole thing without actually going over each and every chip and trace. What are your thoughts on that? Is there a good approach to reflowing a board in general?
@johnathanrice3569
@johnathanrice3569 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial! I can't believe I've never heard of flux. Granted I'm by no means a hardware expert but I've soldered quite a bit over the years. I just thought solder balling was because I simply had poor technique from inexperience. I always thought you had to have the hands of a surgeon to repair a trace.
@jeremypsychrock
@jeremypsychrock 11 жыл бұрын
thank you, thankyou! Finally a helpful inst. video! I learned a lot, changed my solder methods for the better.
@aeneasfate
@aeneasfate 13 жыл бұрын
@lukemorse1 I'm still using one from a couple of years ago. But then again most of my repairs and projects don't need flux, so the most I need to do is shake out any loose bits of solder once in awhile.
@Flubly
@Flubly 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial, extremely helpful.
@1wow187
@1wow187 6 жыл бұрын
Hope you burn many boards!
@sgtsunburn117
@sgtsunburn117 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it was massively helpful.
@GamerBoyGU82
@GamerBoyGU82 13 жыл бұрын
the soldering tips last a little longer for me when I put them away tinned (a little solder on it)
@sethat8e
@sethat8e 9 жыл бұрын
What vacuum pump do you have there ?
@j0hnny4rc4de
@j0hnny4rc4de 11 жыл бұрын
VERY nice... I learn something new everyday...
@Locut0s
@Locut0s 13 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic vid luke. Thanks!!
@larrybland007
@larrybland007 11 жыл бұрын
i am getting my first game soon I want by own arcade you just gave me enough courage to be dangerous thank you for the video.
@larrybland007
@larrybland007 10 жыл бұрын
Changed out the board for a 60 in 1 and changed out the CRT to a DELL monitor. Works great!
@shevanero
@shevanero 13 жыл бұрын
off the cuff and unscripted,still badass!
@jamzempire
@jamzempire 9 жыл бұрын
so how do i protect the circuit from corrosion after removing the copper protection?
@GGigabiteM
@GGigabiteM 9 жыл бұрын
+jovan madden If the copper trace is coated in leaded solder then it won't oxidize again unless exposed to corrosive substances or submerged in liquid. I don't recommend the use of ROHS solders because tin whiskers can become a problem and short out the board. There are a number of substances you can use to protect exposed traces. The easiest to get and use though would probably be clear nail polish. Hotglue could also work but it gets messy and looks ugly if you aren't careful. If you just need a temporary fix, clear cellotape can also work.
@FumiyaSugawara
@FumiyaSugawara 13 жыл бұрын
Nice man very detail, hey i can send u a couple of tips for ur solder pen man let me know.
@cappnzak
@cappnzak 8 жыл бұрын
Very helpful,thanks.Much appreciated.
@jpstyles85
@jpstyles85 13 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting vid, very informative, very clever stuff.
@MetalTiger88
@MetalTiger88 13 жыл бұрын
lol "the solder sucker" =D anyway, great tutorialvideo man =) i did one of my dreamcast padhacks for my naomi cabinet yesterday and now player 2 finally works fine^^ when i did my first padhack, i scratched away that black plastic kinda thing on the D-pad and soldered some wires on to the copper points underneath. but i guess my soldering pen got to hot and it burned out the traces xD i didn´t use any kind of flux also, so it was a pain in the ass to stick the solder to the contactpoints^^
@googleboughtmee
@googleboughtmee 13 жыл бұрын
What are the causes of a trace being broken in the first place?
@RetroGamerVX
@RetroGamerVX 13 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, my favourite sort of video! :o) Is there not also a pen you can get to re-draw the traces?
13 жыл бұрын
@googleboughtmee It burns off quickly. It's perfect for through-the-hole soldering, but for stuff like SMD and trace soldering - the flux inside the solder is pretty much useless.
@RetroGameModz
@RetroGameModz 11 жыл бұрын
7:15 I have never heard anyone say that using a screwdriver to scrape of the "coating" (usually called "solder mask" or "solder resist") is not a good idea. I too often use a screwdriver myself for the very same purpose, and I've never had any problems with it either. :)
@alecjahn
@alecjahn 13 жыл бұрын
@28steryan I would never do that in public, however your bedroom floor is a different story.
@googleboughtmee
@googleboughtmee 13 жыл бұрын
Isn't there already flux in some solder that you buy?
@delatroy
@delatroy 13 жыл бұрын
Exposure to bad weather conditions like being in storage lol
@mohandmohand2047
@mohandmohand2047 4 жыл бұрын
Can i msg you for my big broblume in xbox360 E slim motherboard plz
@BalloonFight
@BalloonFight 13 жыл бұрын
Like x1000. Please keep up the tutorial videos. :)
@MaxieRetro
@MaxieRetro 13 жыл бұрын
Dude that iron is so dirty XD You should get a damp sponge and wipe the tip on it melt some solder on the tip and repeat that is technically the "Right" way to clean and keep ii clean with out having to take a file to it. Also after you get it clean make sure to keep some solder on the tip that will help it stay clean.
@antigen4
@antigen4 9 жыл бұрын
ehhhm... NOT CERTAIN HOT GLUE is the way i'd be tackling this - esp. if the trace in question is regularly subjected to temps well above the melting point of the glue (?)
@TheBladeJunker
@TheBladeJunker 13 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks I learned a lot. :D
@RenegadeFury
@RenegadeFury 12 жыл бұрын
couldn't you tape it and then solder
@groovetonight1848
@groovetonight1848 10 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU LUKE! ...-SUBSCRIBED! ...
@Bojack222
@Bojack222 13 жыл бұрын
great video! :)
@alecjahn
@alecjahn 13 жыл бұрын
@28steryan One day I'll make it to Blackpool and we can get slippery together.
@NERxLLLx
@NERxLLLx 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video great advise thanks!
@davidpicarra2520
@davidpicarra2520 11 жыл бұрын
that hapen to me with my Game & watch te batteries corroted on main cpu power so i repair the trace its strart to work like a champ
@superrobotfan1099
@superrobotfan1099 13 жыл бұрын
solder flux is toxic ! this should be done in a good ventilated area
@hightttech
@hightttech 7 жыл бұрын
I checked the date to see if this was April Fools video. Posted in November. Now I'm confused.
@LoricElf
@LoricElf 13 жыл бұрын
FLING THE SOLDER!!!
@cirogomesnewsnews5449
@cirogomesnewsnews5449 4 жыл бұрын
hey ,if anyone else is searching for computer repair kit try Saankramer Electronic Magazine System (just google it ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my work buddy got cool success with it.
@retrorammdd
@retrorammdd 12 жыл бұрын
15:27 - 15:52 guilty as charged
@1wow187
@1wow187 6 жыл бұрын
Well, if it ain't blown due to burnt traces, it will surely die by static discharge! This guy. LMAO
@googleboughtmee
@googleboughtmee 13 жыл бұрын
@CrysisLTU2 thx for info :)
@ngu0061
@ngu0061 13 жыл бұрын
@X3CuT1oNR you're a cyborg? joking xP
@Manche-De-Pelle
@Manche-De-Pelle Жыл бұрын
OmG filing a solder tip .... never EVER do that... you can tin your tip and save the life of your solder iron
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 10 жыл бұрын
Heh, "soldering *pen*"? Here in the USA we call those *irons*. What's the deal? Heh... Why are you in Japan, anyway?
@madamerotten
@madamerotten 8 жыл бұрын
It's not a "flat head" screwdriver. It's called a slot screwdriver.
@GustoTheGamer
@GustoTheGamer 13 жыл бұрын
Solder Sucker LOL
@dan147101
@dan147101 10 жыл бұрын
nice vid but can i just say....its solder....not sodder as you keep pronouncing it
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for some reason the l is there but silent.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 9 жыл бұрын
No, *****, it's not "sole-der" anywhere, because if it were, that would really be (as pronunciation guides go) "SOL * ee * der" (because every letter in a pronunciation guide is used to make a sound in some way or another, hence the *name* "pronunciation guide"). So maybe in those countries it's pronounced "SOL * der" (with a long o).
@SummerFunMan
@SummerFunMan 9 жыл бұрын
*****, nope, *you* are the idiot, because with the "e" on the end of "sole-" you were actually *not* being phonetic, unless you meant "sol * ee -," because in phonetics the e would *not* be silent. That was exactly my point with phonetics. So... good luck trying to stop being an idiot.
@SummerFunMan
@SummerFunMan 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's Hometime guy Dean Johnson! :-)
@Fate2010c
@Fate2010c 6 жыл бұрын
Except its not; depending on where you are from. www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/32lwey/why_do_americans_say_the_word_solder_without/
@icenesiswayons9962
@icenesiswayons9962 6 жыл бұрын
Pronouncing sodder like you do sounds like cannon fodder. Never use a file on a soldering iron, never use a solder sucker on traces, it's only for huge amount of solder like on TV fly backs, use solder wick for trace desoldering for caps, resisters, transistors, and IC's. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,.and blah, blah, blah..... Your file is what shortened you iron tip not flux dude! Ah, ah, whatever ah, dude.
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