Some Portland homeless villages are struggling to reach full capacity

[@eckankar7756]

I was a community health RN on the streets of Phoenix for 11 years. They want the drugs, drink and smokes more than anything else. They want help but only on their terms and that continues substance abuse. Not all, but 99%. All they looked forward from our visits was free clean needles and sox. They threw the tooth brushes and tooth paste away. Your best intention is not theirs.

[@kennycotterill2869]

Bingo!. You nailed it there but the libs just refuse to see it, they’re too busy feeling good from the virtue signalling.

[@lilsheba1]

You're going to lump cigarettes in with the same seriousness of drugs and alcohol? Out of the 3 I don't consider smoking all that bad.

[@eckankar7756]

@@lilsheba1 When they only have a few dollars to get by on and use that for smokes rather than food, medicine, transportation to health care support it certainly is serious to go into malnutrition and non compliance with medications to support their substance abuse behavior.

[@RandoBurner]

Mental habits, that are good, in an other age called virtues, are not practiced by all. If everyone did that, we wouldn't have wars, but we do. Its a lie that people 1.know their best interest 2. want to follow it. People can choose to destroy to themselves. And most people do.

[@eckankar7756]

@@lovelychickyyy1071 Absolutely true

[@townsendmedia]

2:57 You know...it amazes me that you have thousands of people locked up in prison for drug use and yet, you let these criminals clutter the streets with filth all the while on Meth, and Heroin...etc. WHY?

[@amyrenee1361]

Because prisons are overrun. If you put drug addicts in there to take up more space, it doesn't leave room for those who really need to be away from society - the violent offenders. You want early release for those who rob, rape, and kill? Or would you rather deal with those who are self destructive?

[@ksmith2852]

Marketing: Call yourself homeless and nobody bothers you because of their ability to create dependence.

[@yunnybae7556]

I don't get it. if the camp's demand to be sober is a problem for full capacity, then at least for those who qualify to get in the shelter are better protected. I would much rather feel better if everyone at the shelter are well protected over night, than have a full capacity shelters that routinely have assult and rape.

[@jobella2656]

So better yet, mandate of housing for all like Nordic cultures of the first world, with them dispersed all over town the safer it is for all of us.

[@jeffa391]

Except none of those Nordic countries have drug problems like ours. We are American non homogeneous Nordic states we are more similar to Brazil

[@billyturner7340]

Me and my husband are clean and sober with no criminal record we had a fire and we can't get in we have spent 10 days 4 to 5 hours a day on the phone and no one can get. Last night I was so desperate I sought out a fire department and beg them to help me because my husband wears oxygen. He's been a hospital like seven times since December and I need to get him off. I went to a place called rosehaven today and spoke to a case. The case advocate was told by 211 and she emailed someone saying that she could not place Us in the shelter. 211 has no information the rescue resource people they safe and clean people the fire department didn't even realize they could place us there and they were denied I left my number with the fire department no one ever called me back. Tonight I stopped to park rangers and she said that she would have to email her manager after she got off work tonight. And again we left our name and my husband's phone number this village to us is a ruse. They tell you you have to be clean and sober they tell you you have to abide by rules and curfews and we do but the problem is we are clean and sober and they're only wanting to house dirty people

[@billyturner7340]

Me and my husband was laying in bed sound asleep at 3:00 a.m. in the morning and two couples got into it over a bottle of gabapentin because the woman had given this man a bottle of gabapentin and he. She threw scalding hot water on him in the middle of the night and when I said something I was told if you don't like it get the f*** out

[@yunnybae7556]

@@billyturner7340 OMG I hope you and your husband stay safe and make your way back to some kind of a normalcy. I wish I can find a way to give my pepper spray to you. 😭

[@Emily-rr2si]

You cannot help someone who does not want the help. No matter how much money you poor into the programs. If they do not want the help, all of that means nothing. I recently went to Mexico and i mentioned to the Taxi driver why I did not see many homeless. And his response to me was “you don’t work, you don’t eat, Americans get everything handed to no wonder Americans are seen as lazy”. I appreciated that man’s honesty.

[@alelectric2767]

Exactly!!

[@ok-fv6dm]

*pour. You illiterate fuck

[@Industrialitis]

I'll take "Things That Didn't Happen" for $200 Alex.

[@fallenbeforefiona9000]

You appreciated that man's honesty as hundreds of thousands of people from HIS country jump the border and hop on our ⅜ services and hospitals in our dime? Looks like of you can't make it there you just go north and get free welfare, housing and being given priority over the citizens. Easy peasy. We can't give up on Americans bc illegal immigration ,they say we are benefited by it, they build things they have all the construction jobs yet we have no housing than we had 50 years ago. WHAT DO THEY DO HERE?

[@Industrialitis]

@@fallenbeforefiona9000 Hey you need to unplug from Fox, they spread dangerous lies. Especially about immigrants. Best of Luck.

[@pdxtom]

Wait...you mean there are people on the street who would prefer to stay there rather than get treatment and have a roof over their head? Nahhhhhhhh......

[@jamice3986]

Yes, there are, thats why there's more and more homeless. They like it that way, it's easy to survive in the US like that.

[@benjaminrichard7741]

Hmmm 🤔 lol

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

That’s why I don’t give out “change” to those at the traffic light

[@patriciawashington8780]

yes many chose to be on the streets many have an income . being an er nurse i’ve seen many people who refuse to go to shelters. i don’t agree with allowing drugs and alcohol. there must be rules

[@timothyletwin5911]

@@jamice3986 Easy? Not my definition of easy.

[@benjaminrichard7741]

They have a place so now make it illegal to camp out and clean up the town wtf

[@Romans219]

Amen to that.

[@SisterSherryDoingStuff]

Exactly. 100%

[@ghostofsilence2697]

then instead of barring entry to all but only the most clean of the homeless, make treatment for mental health and addiction mandatory for the tenets. that way you solve the root of the problem instead of wondering why these beds aren't being filled, then step two would be to help these people get basic jobs so they can support themselves.

[@bluechex7881]

That's some very judgemental and extreme language. I am calling the FBI, CIA, and DEA.

[@benjaminrichard7741]

@@bluechex7881 lol plaes don’t oh no 🙊

[@husher5142]

The issue is many homeless are homeless because they dont want to be part of the system. They will not follow the rules of a shelter and are therefore on the streets. They choose not to do the programs to help, because they do not want to work or put in effort. Now sometimes that's addiction driven, or mental health but at the end of the day if the person does not want to be helped - nothing you do can or will help them.

[@antm64]

The truth is often ugly...and many don't want to admit that this is the bottom line.

[@Industrialitis]

I think everyone knows that, the problem is that many people do actually want help and it's often not much and takes a long time to get it. Also most homeless people arent like, some crazy drug addled psycho, they're just people who, for many different reasons, don't have a house to call home.

[@husher5142]

@@Industrialitis In Edmonton it's actually a lot of help. They will get you into anger management, addiction management, basically w.e you need, but you need to attend those to stay in housing. Then they help you get a job if you do not have one and an apartment. There are also rooming houses, but you cannot be loaded, bring in drugs or alcohol. Which is a deal breaker for most addicts. Even in the soup lines or the over night stays no alcohol or drugs and no fighting or you will be removed.

[@eckankar7756]

@@husher5142 but when they leave for a bit they get hooked up then return to the shelter to crash. There is little motivation to stop substance abuse, they enjoy it too much. They just want a place to sleep till they can get their next fix.

[@franciskurt4708]

Hey - Go to a shelter, follow the rules and see how you do. You're just another ignorant citizen who has no clue what drives a person to become addicted in the first place. And the system is dead - The System... God, listen to you...

[@SisterSherryDoingStuff]

I'd love to live in one of those little wooden tiny homes. I live paycheck to paycheck, struggling to come up with $1800/per mo. I'm sober...hell, let me live there!

[@ghostofsilence2697]

thats an excellent point, we should decommodify housing so its not so expensive to live anywhere in the country. make more of these villages and keep them out of the hands of corporations and billionaires who would do everything in their power to jack up the prices for their own gain. then everyone, sober or not, can have a place to live without getting caught in a vicious cycle that would end with them becoming and addict, criminal, or suicidal or all of the above.

[@karlabritfeld7104]

Go for it.

[@thathobbitlife]

@@karlabritfeld7104 That's a shitty thing to say- housing should be less expensive and that's the main takeaway here. There is a huge housing inflation right now.

[@SisterSherryDoingStuff]

@@thathobbitlife Thank you.when the end of my lease comes around, they are raising my rent by $100. I'm have to move, but where? It's kind of a nightmare

[@feddymacfedderman]

@@karlabritfeld7104 stupid boomer take.

[@keylockwood9487]

If you give them the option to continue to do drugs they will continue to do drugs, plain and simple. Either clean up, and be a productive part of society, or go to jail...the rest of us hard working citizens should not have to deal with our city, safety and belonging being destroyed. Do we not have any rules anymore?

[@rabbitcreative]

> Do we not have any rules anymore? Might makes right. The only rule. I hear of people working and still being homeless. Jack-ass.

[@emilinebee6280]

Do you want taxpayers to pay for the $30,000 to $50,000 a year it costs to keep someone in jail? Do you understand that most of these people can only be arrested for possession anyway? They are users, not dealers. They would just spend the night in jail each time they are busted for possession. And drugs are so cheap now you don't even have to steal a lot. In any case, tossing them in jail solves nothing and increases the burden on the taxpayer.

[@greghauser742]

@@emilinebee6280 Possession of drugs is legal in Portland now.

[@lsharon2175]

Jails are funded by tax payer money. That would be YOUR money.

[@amyrenee1361]

Well, the situation speaks. Is anyone listening? Living in this current society is less desirable than doing drugs and being on the streets. We live in a PUNITIVE society that is good for only a fraction of us. Social mobility is stagnant. Creativity and innovation has become stifled. Maybe it's time to change how we do things. But people don't want change - kinda like these drug addicts, they are scared to address the issues in society. They are locked into a system that isn't good for them, but they refuse to change it. Corruption started at the top and it trickled down. This was long before Trump and long before Biden. This is what you get when you are servant to money. Life is important. We are here to celebrate the living, not the dead wood paper called money. People matter over profits. The system was made for the people, not the people for the system. What matters more? Your rules? Or life? Read the Declaration of Independence, and then think about all the frivolous rules our society has placed on people to prevent them from their pursuit of happiness. I'm not talking about drug use and partying and all that filth. I'm speaking about the ability to pursuit your dreams. Of becoming great. Think about it. Best wishes 🌺

[@roguetrader303]

Its a shame people rather live on the streets than follow simple basic rules.

[@Senor_spielbergo]

They value their vice more then their livelihood.

[@danieldaniels7571]

I'd rather live on the streets than have a curfew

[@bobsacamano7653]

need to consider that many jobs employ people at night and the curfew prevents this.

[@johnperhach2534]

@@Senor_spielbergo which is the whole reason a whole lot of them ended up where they are now in the first place.

[@scottmic3556]

@@Senor_spielbergo Livelihood ????? they have hit bottom, there is no life down there only death and sorrow

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

So you’re saying junkies don’t want to live in a place that doesn’t allow drugs? Wow! How many years of college did they have to go through to figure this out?

[@franciskurt4708]

They want to save people not help them - here. follow mt rules - do as I say - Be sober, etc. Lots of drunks and junkies out there you wouldn't guess are addicted. But it's this whole mentality of trying to save the world and not treating addiction. I'm in San Francisco - all the shelters here. etc., are full of drunks, etc. So what - as long as they have security. San Jose has Tiny Homes for the homeless and you can go in there and drink. You have to smoke outside... Portland is full of over educated social engineers who want to save the world but have no practical experience. Portland is a city to avoid - it's full of people who couldn't make it in SF - so they bring their failed selves to Portland and try to remake the place in their own failed image.

[@cspdx11]

Portland is so progressive they don't want to admit their failed ideology

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

@@cspdx11 lol well that would be one of the many traits of progressives.

[@scottcharney1091]

They didn't explain why curfews are a problem- it makes it even more difficult for homeless people to hold down jobs, and many homeless people have jobs!

[@kaliyuga2758]

Can we stop calling this a homeless problem and call it what it is….. a DRUG problem.

[@duvine3882]

Vets or domestic abuse victims with brain injuries might seem like a drug problem while they aren't if it were that simple the problem would've been solve back in opium dens of the old Wild West.

[@greghauser742]

Exactly.

[@wendynoto1923]

I agree 👍

[@eckankar7756]

yes....yes....yes.

[@t.birmingham2668]

Amen

[@learrus]

I wish I could live in a self contained unit with AC instead of an apartment building with noisy neighbours and no ac

[@utubenewb1265]

You can, just move out, go apply and tell them you're living in your car.

[@julioanzueto3]

Portland get your act together Clean the neighborhoods Homeless can’t dictate what is best for the city

[@F511BHS]

Recall Retardesty while you're at it...............

[@utubenewb1265]

It's pretty much a Oregon/Portland problem. The state closed down most mental hospitals and put about 3000-4000 formerly protected people on the street. Then Oregon made building housing incredibly expensive through zoning, building processes, and fees. Almost 98% of Oregon land is virtually illegal to build housing on.

[@pgahole]

How to become homeless: be a selfish substance abuser and then burn every bridge in your life. These people haven't "fallen on hard times", this is a life they have personally scripted for themselves.

[@utubenewb1265]

You forgot be given "freedom" from a mental health hospital like 3-4000 people in Oregon alone.

[@mattalley4330]

Indeed. They have not fallen on hard times. They have thrown themselves into said hard times head first while batting away every helping hand on the way.

[@turkeysnot1]

They are not people who are down on their luck. They are people who choose to live without rules. They have chosen to do drugs when and wherever they want instead of taking care to house themselves. Stop trying to make homelessness easier.

[@geraldboykin6159]

Get out of la la land!

[@geebrewer8186]

SOME are, some are homeless due to the cost of housing. More and more people are going to be homeless in the future due to massive increases in housing and rent. People are stretched thin, with no place to go. When a studio apt goes for $1400 a month, you have housing problems.

[@bobsacamano7653]

not all of them

[@Kakiharae]

Wait they allow alcohol? Wtf? I’m paying for this ? Fuck that

[@billybardo6373]

You're as sharp as a pencil eraser, Dingus! "No Alcohol"! This is nothing more than a gathering of people for (Permanent Residence) at "Camp FEMA"! Hotel California: You can check out Anytime you Like; but you can "Never Leave"! It's All an "Illusion"!

[@ghostofsilence2697]

would you rather see more homeless drug addicts and alcoholics on the streets where you live? way I see it, its a necessary first step to get these people sober. cant run on a catch 22 and expect it to work out in the end. homeless people need to sober up to get housing. They get housing and theres a much better chance for them to be in an environment where they can sober up as they have some amount of basic essential securities in their lives and can get the treatment they need to wean off drugs and aclohol, and eventually leave that shit behind them so they can become functioning members of society again and pay taxes like the rest of us. BUT they need to be 100% sober FIRST before they get access to housing and treatment they need to get sober. see the problem here? I cant remember if it was switzerland or sweden that did something similar back in i want to say 2011? I'll have to double check. basically they set up small housing villages like these, plus treatment centers to help cure their people of their addictions whilst also providing mandatory mental health care. within 6 months to a year, most of the people who underwent treatment at these facilities and stayed within these homes successfully got clean, found work, and got back on their feet. this led to less desparation, less crime over all, and fewer overdose related deaths. it also saved the average taxpayer money that would have gone to feeding and housing prisoners over significantly longer periods of time. whats happening here rn isnt enough to fully address the root cause of the problem but sticking your head in the sand wont make it go away either.

[@Givin2Change]

Are you implying that poor people should have less freedom because they are poor?

[@spookyblack4460]

@@Givin2Change That is about the most ignorant statement I have read. Andrew did not imply that poor people don't deserve freedom but he did imply that he doesn't want to be paying for them just to be getting drunk without having to look at their addiction as the root of their problems.

[@billybardo6373]

@@Givin2Change Am I implying that poor people should have less freedom? Are you kidding me? I lost everything I own in 2009 when O'Bozo became President and have been homeless every since! You're obviously not very aware of the big picture of "Their" diabolical plans for us & everyone else!

[@jondoeissomeone]

It’s not just a housing issue, clearly

[@duvine3882]

It is as long as housing for all mandates isn't made, once is done then we can know for sure, now is theories.

[@angham3829]

1 Corinthians 13:13 New King James Version 13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

[@duvine3882]

@tree You speak by experience; in nordic countries with no homelessness crisis you don't have to.

[@duvine3882]

@tree It helps when all citizens matter first with housing.

[@duvine3882]

@tree Thanks lady!.

[@joiannahuff1227]

Not all financially insecure people are addicts and not all addicts are financially insecure.

[@carolferguson19]

I'm discusted at Portland's government. YOU FAILED BIG TIME. Vote for a change people.

[@chrisfriends7911]

People will always vote democrat. They are afraid of change.

[@duanescot]

The voters failed, they are the enablers of this mess, completely incapable of letting logic and facts override their emotions, its unreal...

[@joesgarage8965]

Houselessness is just another way of life. Its a lot easier to hangout and get high than to get up and go to work every day. Nobody wants to hire a drunk or an addict even if they are educated. There a many places for those in need to get free food. Its a life style taking advantage of people willing to give. This is not going away its here to stay.

[@EmperorStarscream]

Amen, I love it

[@icestationzebraassociates2460]

It also works the other way. Homelessness keeps a LOT of people employed. Not much incentive to fix it.

[@MsKimifer]

For the same budget that is being spent on projects like these, the city could literally hand every homeless person 5k and tell them "Do what you think is best with this money. Check into a rehab, make a down payment on housing, move to a different state, or just shoot it straight into your arm and OD. Whatever. Here is the tool to get out of your situation. Now you CAN NOT be here on these street in 2 weeks time. Go."

[@JETZcorp]

More like 50k. They spend a LOT on trying to "fix" this thing. But ultimately the problem is that no one is going to get positive outcomes unless they want it, and when you're an addict there's only one thing you want. Just handing out money would create a massive party, and then the police would have to actually follow through with kicking them out. But they would just continue to flow like water and bounce from place to place. Even if you wanted to start arresting by the railcar full, there's no jail space to put them. There needs to be a place for them to go and get clean or get the mental help they need. Then, when police see something arrest-worthy (which is like every minute of every day), they can make that arrest and the person will actually have a place to go. Take people off the street and get them back into society. If you don't do that, the only alternatives are to just live with the problem forever, or start blindfolding and executing the homeless. Obviously option 3 is off the table. Personally I think the city is quite happy to continue with option 2. The homeless are a great way to get additional taxes from the rest of the citizens, and if the problem continues, the money continues with it.

[@utubenewb1265]

For 1/4 the money they could allow private companies to build cheap flop houses, rooming houses, apartments, removing the nightly trauma of unsafe sleeping and pooping. Without this permanent stress the people eventually make better choices just like they did throughout history. And if the people disrupted the rooming houses etc, they got kicked out and learned to modify their behavior.

[@icestationzebraassociates2460]

@@pnwviews3879 It's already chaos lol

[@Maziko_Lee]

Homelessness is a problem everywhere. At least, where it is warm (California, Nevada, Oregon...) and where panhandlers will get charity change. (They know what parts of the city has generous people) Recently a BUS of them were sent here. They hang out, proudly, everywhere. No shame. It's cool now. One cool guy asked me for $20 and he had this long story of how much he f****** hates Nevada and how he's trying to leave. And apparently he is going to a gifted school for higher learning? Yeah. I have nothing against the homeless. I just don't like the annoying ones. The weird loiterers who leave huge messes, storming after you in the parking lot, expecting you to give them money. I can only imagine the ones in Portland. :(

[@mayhemvr7561]

I agree, I feel bad they don’t have a place to go however they do have options. And they don’t take all this free help. Other than the money of course. I remember riding public bus and this homeless man with no bus ticket got on and asked everyone on the bus for some money no one gave him a dollar. He than proceeded to get off at the next stop and tell everyone to go fuck themselves. It’s such a probleeeem. I hate living here in Portland right now..

[@susanjaneterry1073]

Not where I live. And I live in the warmest state of all. It depends on community standards. Where laws are enforced, crime disappears. I have lived in this small, not upscale, community for four years. I have NEVER seen ONE homeless person. No tents on the sidewalks, no shoplifting, no crime. No drugs. Why? Because you get to go to jail if you break the law.

[@mayhemvr7561]

@@susanjaneterry1073 because they ship them off to cities that let it slide lol

[@mayhemvr7561]

@@susanjaneterry1073 if you think they put all homeless in jails where u live ur very wrong they buy them tickets and send them to the nearest city.

[@susanjaneterry1073]

@@mayhemvr7561 Fine with me.

[@miz.harrington85]

That’s why they are on the street in the first place, they don’t want to follow the rules of society. The rules aren’t bent for sober working class citizens, but they should be for homeless drug addicts? I’ve been there done that and there is PLENTY of help for those who are willing to put in the work

[@rabbitcreative]

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAH

[@timothyletwin5911]

A high percentage do have mental illness so, there's that.

[@emilinebee6280]

The problem has gotten to the point where it is impacting other people, though. Even if you don't care about their well being because they are human beings - drug addicts are human beings, BTW - the way they are living impacts society. Do you want drugged out people engaging with your kids and pooping on the sidewalk? It's got to be dealt with. Someone else said put them in jail. Do you know how much THAT costs taxpayers? A heck of a lot more than a tent village. The problem has to get dealt with. No one is doing it very well.

[@greghauser742]

@@rabbitcreative Is that your go-to dumbass response for when you have nothing to say?

[@franciskurt4708]

I bet you drink and drive and you probably shoplift. You haven't been anywhere or done anything if you don't have the empathy to understand your neighbor (yes. I mean you.) I bet people lie to your face and you eat it up for more reasons than just your arrogance and stupidity. You strike me as the sort who is hush-hush, best pals with the drunk driver who ran over and killed a cyclist- kept on going. I bet you two sit around on your patio chairs in your back garden and laugh about it. What a naive and foolish person you seem.

[@j.michaelbarrows5266]

Proof that these people are not interested in help. Many must actually enjoy being lawless and have zero responsibilities. The more you keep saying it’s legal to squat anywhere, the numbers will only keep doubling,

[@mtwhyte8505]

When you're clean and sober and you have no criminal record you don't get help in this town and they are lying to you. We've been on the street since November 2016. It took us saving and scrimping our money up to get a place to live.

[@TheTaoofEternalWar]

yea, that's called life pal, that's what we all do.

[@thathobbitlife]

That's quite true. Most seem to require you to be in active addiction or like less than 30 days clean to be applicable for help- and as for criminal background, that always gets some benefits however that basically puts you in a WAY better position. If you can get you income up, you can easily get into a sec 42 or low income apartment of which theres lots of in Pdx. I live in one right now - and the people with backgrounds and active use wont be able to get into a normal apartment.

[@scottielambert9312]

Get a job?

[@Kakiharae]

Poor baby

[@bluechex7881]

If you are clean and sober AND one of the poliically proteced groups, you can have anything you want. And you don't even have to follow the law.

[@cleekersneaker]

Thank you for devoting the time to report this complex story with nuance and detail.

[@retrogamer2548]

Beaverton and Hillsboro is even worse. Literally homeless fighting in the streets.

[@dalepxp8963]

It’s NOT GOING TO WORK.

[@RyanRuark]

“Nuance and detail” == pre-scripted political narrative designed to confirm priors and coddle egos.

[@nicholaiginovaef4861]

if I wanted to be sober, I'd just pay my bills and live in a house like a human being!!

[@denisemayosky1955]

I think most people who are homeless want that.

[@JJUnohu]

Doesn't matter what people want...the question is , are they willing to change and work for it?

[@icestationzebraassociates2460]

Because no one who lives in a house and pays bills ever uses alcohol or drugs lol

[@justrosy5]

That's because Portland's not doing it the same way as they are in Vancouver. Just providing tiny homes ISN'T ENOUGH. You have to offer drug rehab, help with childcare and getting jobs, medical/dental care... You can't just pretend that lack of shelter is the only problem the homeless can be facing. It angers me to see that Portland's doing it wrong when it comes to these villages. Also, that whole "check in/check out" thing is bologna. Homeowners and apartment renters don't have to do that - no one else should either. These aren't hotels or motels charging people money to stay and providing all the cushy services of hotels and motels, so there's no justification for forcing people to check in/check out. They're adults, not independent children. It's wrong to treat them as if they were 10 year olds.

[@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920]

If bariatric wards can ban outside foods then homeless shelters can ban drugs.

[@justrosy5]

@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 How long have you been in the United States?

[@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920]

@@justrosy5 What makes you think I emigrated to the US?

[@ladyjade6446]

Tolerance leads to societal decay

[@jobella2656]

Authoritarianism, is the word, tolerance isn't equity after all.

[@georgeherbertmoonwalkerbush]

They don’t care about the being sober part, just don’t openly drink or use. They don’t drug test.

[@JUNGLESTRIKEOFDOOM]

Who the hell wants to live under the yoke of a power hungry social worker?

[@darktwolight]

I love how people feeling morally superior destroy their cities feeling like they are being compassionate with drug attics .. a temporary safety net is good but you can not incentivize bad behavior

[@billyturner7340]

The problem with Portland Oregon is they condone they condone alcohol.. there is absolutely no consequences for bad behavior. Me and my husband was in a shelter another couple bought a bottle of gabapentin off of another couple the man didn't pay for it in the middle of the night his wife threw hot scalding coffee on the man or not coffee but hot water and when I said something about getting splashed in the face I was told get the f*** out if you

[@billyturner7340]

We're clean and sober and we've been trying for 10 days to get into these say it on the website it says first responders park rangers 211 in Portland Oregon is a joke

[@keithkc9017]

Just put them in jail. 5 years. 3 x offense 15 years if caught homeless and on drugs

[@bobsacamano7653]

Problem is due to affordability rents are too high to survive. I work 50+ hours a week and I'm homeless

[@darktwolight]

@@bobsacamano7653 I guess LIFE is telling you something .. MOVE to a city with a lower cost of living

[@eksbocks9438]

1:05 Pretty much. Getting to a shelter is one thing. But securing a house is something different. I had a roommate when I was at a shelter. He worked so hard at his fast food job. But still couldn't get housing. Another group had a Housing Assistance voucher. But there was nobody in the city who would take it. So, we were all stuck living in the shelter. And they still said we had to be out in 2 weeks.

[@captainamerica4038]

What on EARTH does: "Struggling to reach full capacity" mean? Huh? How far Left can you possibly go before you're not even in this dimension anymore?

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

Wow... your comprehension is on the negative numbers 🤔

[@SouLoveReal]

I say the same thing (here in San Francisco).

[@bobsacamano7653]

understanding comes with education

[@mrmja50]

Jail or villages, thats what the choice should be!

[@billyturner7340]

Well you know what at this point jail would at least have three meals a day in a roof over. Dude you don't know what the hell you're talking about because you know something we've been trying for 10 days to get into the village we're cleaning sober no criminal record and they won't let us in they won't give us a referral to get in because they know once we're in that will only go to be there 6 months to a year before we have housing now we can pay for it. The apartment manager I talked to today said $3,500 up front because I have no rental history. And then they want 3 months in advance because I have no rental. That's $3,500 for first and last month's rent security and a pet. And then 3 months rent at $1,100 now you want to tell me why I'm going to get that kind of money to move in

[@billyturner7340]

The fact is we want a low barrier shelter because it's close to my job the one that he's talking about is up on a hill almost all the way out to the airport. I tried to get into dignity village after all the major hard work was done. We went to the little village over across from the modem center and they verbally and emotionally and mentally attacked my family member because they didn't like her they didn't want her there they just wanted her to do all their s*** form. The villages are a joke no one ever gets in. I'm going to Florida

[@mtwhyte8505]

The undercapacity because they want to be under. They tell you that the city overpaid for these and as long as they stay empty they don't have to pay. These were the same houses that they used for covid patients also

[@boxerblvd3514]

I want a hand out but don't tell me what to do .🙄🤬

[@user-uy3eq5hg1s]

It sure sounds like the root cause of the problem is drugs/substance abuse. Private equity firms buying up all real estate and raising rent prices by 200% doesn't help either though.

[@darktwolight]

So your saying they should just leave those crack, drug crime infested neighborhoods to continue to further injure, kill, maim people .. many times the only way effective means (only people willing to put up the money) is to allow private equity firms to force those people out of the area. But let’s bad mouth rich people because communism is great 😂

[@alelectric2767]

You really think all these people would have shelter if equity firms weren’t buying real estate. Your entire comment are far left talking points.

[@catiel8978]

Vacation rentals have taken inventory away from renters and not enough rental housing is being built to compensate.

[@geebrewer8186]

true, just adds normal people to the growing homeless lists. Also competing for housing with illegals who get gov't subsidies doesn't help lower income people either.

[@user-uy3eq5hg1s]

@@alelectric2767 Me saying that the root cause of the problem is due to drugs is a far left talking point? I think you need to educate yourself on the positions of the "far left." The far left are the ones who legalized possessing hard drugs in Oregon and are now trying to legalize magic mushrooms. I said that drugs are the root cause of the problem. Maybe you should read the comment again and think a little harder.

[@lizm2419]

This is not news - these cities are disgusting. These people do not want help. Sobriety? Nah. No Drugs. Nah pass. Curfew? Nah.

[@WhoseGemini]

When you vote to keep the people in office year after year don't be surprise when nothing changes and only gets worst. Hard to feel bad for the people of Portland when they first embraced this until it hit home.

[@billyturner7340]

Dan Ryan is over this okay what many people don't know is before Dan Ryan took office another guy had his position. Mary wheeler used a tiny home village fun to redo the courthouse wall and to upgrade our bathrooms because it wasn't gender-neutral and that the gate and lesbian pan trans community was upset that they had to choose between boy bathrooms and girl bathrooms so Mary wheeler completely redid pioneer square and spent millions of dollars. Only for the bathroom not to have a security guard in it again today it's closed more than it is open

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

Oh please 🙄... they’re literally choosing to be homeless and have been doing this for years. Stop trying to push your false narrative. People homeless regardless to the party ... because all politicians and political parties, like unions .. are WORTHLESS

[@cjcorallo5775]

Why live in one place with rules when you can live anywhere on the street without them?

[@justmyopinion3764]

This is what tolerance gets you.

[@nicholaslucas5183]

Our far left government does the same thing, dump these people in our neighbourhood then tell us we're tolerant compassionate, and when we complain about the thefts, violence we are told we're racist,.

[@aaronaigner3481]

The "homeless industrial complex" at its finest. Government taxpayer $$$$ without accountability and they are full. And when accountability exists (no drugs, no alcohol) these shelters go mostly empty.

[@josephlloyd9636]

It's a Drug issue first & foremost!

[@greghauser742]

Yep. Portland's drug culture is out of control.

[@josephlloyd9636]

@@greghauser742 It's everywhere. Im in San Diego CA & unreal how bad its gotten. Its very scary way things are going in cities everywhere now.

[@geebrewer8186]

a friend was in one of those for I believe it was 90 days. She is not a druggie or booze hound, just a 74 year old senior with little money. Works 2 p/t jobs, and with her small retirement, STILL can't afford an apt due to the high cost of housing in Seattle area. So, she went from here to living in her car because she still didn't have enough money for apt rent. Other than giving someone shelter for a time period, it doesn't help with homelessness when the cost of housing is thru the roof and there are 3 year waiting lists for low income housing.

[@utubenewb1265]

And if a private company or person tried to build a facility like that and charge cheap rent, they would be shut down in lightning speed.

[@johnwilliamson2239]

Put them all in Ted wheelers back yard, oh that’s right he’d charge them rent…..

[@billyturner7340]

Commissioner Dan Ryan is over this he is the one that oversees the programs here you can't get his office to answer the damn phone. You can't get Ted Wheeler's office to answer I have begged Kate Brown to help us beg her to help us and to no avail. Kate Brown won't even call you back

[@billyturner7340]

Mary wheeler actually has a program in this city that is a rent well program it guarantees the landlord's $2,000 if the tenant screw up Mary wheeler will only place drug addicts and alcoholics and housing so the landlords will gain $2,000 a. They move people in within 30 to 60 days they screw up they move them out that's $2,000 2 weeks later someone. Did you know Meredith wheeler owns apartment building and he gets $2,000 every time a homeless screws up

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

@@billyturner7340 Help you do what?

[@OxybroCone]

a homeless problem in society says "we dont respect the way you care for one another" "we refuse to partake in such inhumanity" "where people could do such things to one another" From both ends of the spectrum, think on that TeamA & TeamB

[@bennetfox]

Homelessness will never be solved because politicians cannot exploit the problem financially.

[@bluechex7881]

Homelessness IS a new industry that politicians and non profits benefit from while the working class gets hammered. Welcome to Weimerica

[@rmst1783]

@@bluechex7881 exactly!!

[@janhatcher6991]

I heard there's a lot of people on the streets that don't wanna go buy rules and you can't force somebody to get drug and alcohol treatment so what is the answer here? Those tiny homes are great I would think people would be fighting to get in there as soon as the rain hits and the cold weather hits here in Oregon. Life is so good and you can live it without drugs and alcohol and still be happy and successful.❤️❤️❤️

[@rabbitcreative]

> Life is so good and you can live it without drugs and alcohol and still be happy and successful. Are you for real? Were you paid to say that? What the actual F?

[@janhatcher6991]

@@rabbitcreative No I was not paid to say that but it's a lot more fun without being on drugs and alcohol where do drugs and alcohol get you? Nowhere

[@frannyy9309]

Prison. They need to criminalize drugs again.

[@shawna4740]

Finally a video based on reality. Most people do not want to follow society rules even if it benefits them. They get offered free shelter in exchange for some basic rules but still won't follow them. Those people don't want help they want drugs.

[@thundasc]

You should be watching videos about addiction and educating yourself on it rather than making comments like this. 'Basic rules', like ignoring that they have a mental health issue. If you want a practical analogy time yourself holding your breath, I'd be surprised if you can even do it for 5 minutes, now imagine I told you to do it for twice that to be treated like a person. You don't want to be treated like a person, you want oxygen. Sounds pretty dumb right? To further the analogy, with practice and coaching you could do it, but it would be willfully ignorant to assume that could be achieved immediately, no matter how much you wanted it.

[@greghauser742]

@@thundasc You're right, that analogy did sound pretty dumb. Doing drugs isn't helping their mental health issues and is likely the cause for a lot of it in the first place.

[@thundasc]

@@greghauser742 Addiction TO THE DRUGS is the mental health issue. Gating a safe place to sleep and any ability to de-stress, aside from using, behind not doing drugs is doing less than nothing to offer a real solution. www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/substance-use-and-mental-health

[@frannyy9309]

Because people who follow rules and are sober aren’t homeless. It’s just basics.

[@slconley]

This clearly isn’t a housing issue. It’s a drug and mental health issue, some people just refuse to follow any rules.

[@joeknightus8827]

Druggies don't want to live there because they have RULES. Addicts aren't about rules. Face it, this is a fail.

[@karlabritfeld7104]

Ha!! They don't want shelter, they want drink and or drugs. Unfortunately the problem with liberal cities is you try to help these people and what they really want is money for drugs and alcohol. They can get food anywhere in the city. They want money to buy their drug of choice. They mostly don't care that they are sleeping on sidewalks. I saw it all. Spent 27 years in Portland. Homeless people slept in the doorway of my office building. I went from feeling sorry for them to wanting to leave Portland which is what I did. Packed up, sold my house in Gresham in 2017 and moved to a beautiful large house on 5 acres of land in Virginia. Hate Portland?? Move!! There are better, safer, cleaner places in the USA that are also more affordable than Oregon.

[@criticalmass6249]

Yeah, humans dont naturally crave shelter, home and comfort.... ( What planet do you live on? Are you that dumb, or just trying to lift yourself up by putting others down..?! 🤔 )

[@cleaterose5914]

The housing first dictum has failed. Time to move on to addressing the root causes of homelessness like addiction and mental health issues. That Amy Miller lady made this clear. She also made clear we need to motivate the homeless to do something they don't want to do at least in the short run, e.g. give up drugs.

[@danieldaniels7571]

Give up drugs?!? C'mon now, that's just crazy talk. Ain't no junkie giving up their drugs.

[@utubenewb1265]

Umm how has "housing first" failed? In areas that did it, it was successful until they decided it was too expensive. Historically "Housing First" was called "cheap apartments" and "flop houses". For the non-mentally ill. We've made housing artificially scarce and expensive. The other historical "Housing First" (so to speak) was Mental Health Hospitals. And we shut those down also, for two reasons. "Freedom", and "Money", oddly the mentally insane make bad choices especially when living on a sidewalk and being "befriended" by drug pushers, molesters, and pimps.

[@danieldaniels7571]

@@utubenewb1265 flop houses are a major missing step now.

[@dasrubberduck7331]

Soylent green will save the day.

[@mattb8754]

2 very simple reasons. 1. Some homeless just don't want help. 2. Some homeless don't want to follow simple rules even if it means food and a place to live paid for by contributing members of society.

[@utubenewb1265]

Actually 70% of the people now camping on the sidewalk used to rent cheap scuzzy places that they could afford, even drunk. Or they lived in mental facilities. Now those places are $1500-2000/month, and the people won't/can't totally change their behavior overnight, especially the mentally ill.

[@mattb8754]

@@utubenewb1265 so in other words..... every thing I said is correct.

[@utubenewb1265]

@@mattb8754 Yeah, the mentally ill who literally don't know their homeless, don't accept help. The mentally ill who literally think you want to take their kidney for your baby sacrifice ceremony, don't accept help. Only 3000-4000 people who used to live in secure mental institutions "freely" choose the street. Of course then there are the people at shelters who can't work odd hours because that violates shelter curfew. I've known several people that dealt with this "free choice" of theirs.

[@LtBRS]

This is NOT rocket science. Quit making stupid BS excuses. Arrest them and have the judge offer shelter villages and treatment or jail or starvation. No one has a right to choose a moral (personal or social) wrong.

[@he_lives_in_apineapple_und9743]

We need to put these people in penal colony's. Forced labor and sobriety. That will change their mind.

[@coffeecup3177]

If you have extra capacity and need to operate at full capacity have you thought about contacting the Mayor of Washington DC and asked her to send over a couple of busloads of the newer immigrants that are seeking assistance? They seem to be in a temporary pinch trying to find housing and services for the new arrivals. As much as we would like to we can't take everyone but we can help with 4 or 5 thousand immigrants.

[@wonder7798]

Oregon has a ton of immigrants and refugees they actually are ha ded a furnished unit, cash assistance, medical, food stamps, daycare, job training and employment . They ever think of handing a package like that to our veterans or families!

[@mrjimmcdaniels]

Soon the entire metro area will be a "village".

[@thejessicadiaries]

These are great solutions…it’s a shame that they aren’t having more of an impact on the problem. It’s really sad all around.

[@GreenVibezIguanaDaddy]

It would be better if people were given the utlitmatum of the villages or prison. If they pick prison it needs to be a life sentence.

[@daver2067]

I understand why so many are have just given up Life has been degraded in the US for years now Over regulation by government Too many laws, then nothing gets enforced No one can afford insurance because of socialism (Obamacare) Socialism has torn our country apart and it’s a shame I’m alive to watch it

[@franciskurt4708]

@@GreenVibezIguanaDaddy Maybe you should go back to prison since - sounds as though it really helped you

[@GreenVibezIguanaDaddy]

@@franciskurt4708 Hey man personally im with Rogan. If you don't want to waste money housing them that's fine.

[@geraldbennett7035]

warehousing is not a solution. They need work and no handouts.

[@nellj9495]

There's no shame in being. homeless anymore. There's no shame in being a drug addict. People aren't afraid of prison. So many people are sociopaths now. Such a bad mixture.

[@CC12398]

The agape place is so cute. It looks like a nice vacation campground not a sterile institution. Following rules and having stability is what is needed along with housing.. this is a real conundrum.. addicts are always saying oh yeah next week I'm going to get clean I thought these would have been Full.

[@utubenewb1265]

Many are mentally ill. Also every homeless person goes through the repeated trauma of fear of sleeping, and peeing/pooping. Daily trauma destroys many people's ability for logical thought. That's why "Housing First" cities have success, in the past "housing first" was accomplished by cheap apartments or rooming houses, in areas that destroyed cheap housing they have more and more homeless. Also of course we have closed down mental hospitals and put the mentally ill on the street and then told them "make good choices when you talk to the imaginary friend/alien who stops everyone from eating you alive". We wonder why the mentally disabled don't make good choices.

[@princecampbell3215]

Wow, sober is the reason for the delay. These people needs treatment, first. The agency do not understand addiction to ask a person to do it on their own. Many have created crimes because of drugs so the cure starts with those who wants drug treatment that works. If they create a large drug treatment center that house for a year treatment, they can fill these homes and have people move on to support themselves back in society. No one choose to be homeless.

[@amycuaresma]

Trauma among the homeless is prevalent. Untreated, it can cause people to experience more fearfulness and have trouble with problem-solving, critical thinking and emotional regulation.

[@utubenewb1265]

That's why the communities that do "housing first" have more success. Also, as sad as it is to admit, some of the mentally ill just need to be in hospitals or other facilities, not on the sidewalk. Unfortunately some of the mentally ill who are not a immediate danger cannot make choices that protect themselves for abusers, exploiters, molesters, and traffickers.

[@IndigoCosmic]

Because people who are truly homeless want to have a better place to live. They don't actually want to be homeless. Addicts usually aren't looking to get away from their addiction, so they don't care about being homeless; they care about their addiction. Most homeless that I see are addicts as well.

[@billyturner7340]

Y'all need to tell the truth about what's really going on

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

You know? Then YOU tell it or stfu

[@jgregg7100]

People dont want to be part of society but live right in the middle of it and benifit

[@duvine3882]

True, the rich don't have an idea of how they invest in things that destroy society making them money.

[@nancyviramontes9681]

This is an opportunity for many people to get off the streets and be safe. I hope many homeless will take this opportunity,

[@geraldbennett7035]

they wont. Probably the under utilized tiny houses are too far away from good mooching (begging) spots.

[@robertdowns6800]

Only idiots believe that

[@DarkStarAZ]

If every drug is de-criminalized your going to wind up with lots and lots of addicts and homelessness.

[@thatdapperman]

The lady who recovered from heroine and has a job did well for herself. I do agree that repetitive cycles of almost any kind can be unhealthy for a human being, damage their connections with others as well as damage themselves. If someone becomes unbalanced, finding balance would be in everyone's best interest. When it comes to drugs, being able to stop does allow you to feel empowered, and correct the balance. If a person feels they can maintain a balanced life, even if they use drugs, why can't they? Most people may not be able to handle going right back off the deep end, but there are those who can, especially if they moderate themselves. What I see as being a problem trying to get homeless people into shelters is this, what is it that you're offering again in exchange for staying there? Following rules created by a bunch of people they don't care about? They could just continue to stay where they are and keep things the way they find more comfortable. Then they have to eventually go get a job right? If they got a criminal record, the options that they do have will be severely limited, and that is of course, a reality they will have to accept, or they can perhaps work for themselves. If they go the route of sobriety and a regular job, they now have to accept that this way of life will be it for the rest of their life. The chances of them regaining financial stability has been reduced close to zero. They might as well accept that your offer to line them up on the road to housing will turn in them into an indentured servant. Your offer is really unattractive, and of course the real reason they dont want it is because they will need to submit to your authority. There are plenty of other addictive, toxic, repetitive behaviors that human beings possess, ones that destroy lives and most people are guilty of this. Why don't you add in behaviors such as control and fear, behaviors that most people have unbalanced in their life that causes all sorts of problems even in people who don't do drugs? I'm sure you know of people who have control issues. They control others out of fear, and both of those combined will lead to toxic situations and unhealthy ways of viewing oneself. Fear in my opinion is the most dangerous behavior a human being can act from. Fear has caused countless genocides and wars that wiped out millions just because people were afraid of them. Is there a reason you are requesting for so much control over them meeting minimum requirements in order to get help Behavior patterns are hard to kick off with absolute discipline, especially for people who never felt the need to make change and lived freely with little rules. Now if this place was created specifically to be a shelter for those who are serious about kicking drug habits or don't even do drugs, then maybe this place will not see many people come in who aren't ready for a that without taking babysteps. However, our city has a homeless problem for which no one has any solution for, and it continues to grow every day. These shelters I believe were meant to help take people out of the streets and tents, which if the city managed to be successful with that, the citizens would then give their approval and praise for doing things that work. Perhaps you may need to consider reducing or even modifying some of those requirements to perhaps give these people at the very bottom baby steps that may in the beginning be more tolerant of such violation yet have dates setup for these people to meet, so that they can learn how to gain traction? Now if you're not willing to budge at all, the homeless are perfectly fine with accepting their current living situations. Now hard is it for them to go steal tents and whatever they need as they resume their normal life? Perhaps this organization should review its policies or the people who made them look at ways in which they may be too controlling and have too many initial and unrealistic expectations from people who live a free life? I don't think any homeless people will lose any sleep at night knowing they don't qualify for a service meant to control them into being what society or even yourself believes is the right and only way to be a person? In my opinion, people should work more on their need to control anything that exists outside of their body, because every human being is entitled to freedom of choice, so long as it doesn't directly hurt someone. Another unhealthy way to expect people to abide by is telling them to pursue financial success and excess, that being materialistic and shopping isn't a harmful thing. Our consumerism nature has been one of the most destructive collective acts humans have done. Look at all the wealth inequality, the waste it produces, the pollution, the waste of resources, environmental damage, the unequal profit people have made, the belief that money isn't even remotely harmful and that everyone should keep doing what they're doing. Why isn't anyone controlling everyone by taking away their credit cards? Although I have no proof, I'm certain the consumerism nature that people take on with no guilt or shame, in total has caused an incalculable amount of damage that it would blow anything drugs and homeless people combined has or ever can do? All of this comes from your need to control what others do, and youe fear of things which you are afraid of yourself. In this example, you are likely to be afraid of ending up on a situation where you become homeless or addicted to drugs, but it's likely your need to control others in to adopting your opinion of how a "good" person should go about conducting their life. I can prove that consumerism is harming every area under the sun, and affects everyone in every way on a scale unseen by humans. However, I have no need to control you into believing me. You are free to believe in whatever you want, that drugs the problem. I'm telling you that there are real problems out there that we aren't addressing. It will reveal itself eventually to all of us very soon. When things get bad, I'm sure your need to Prioritize drug use and homelessness as something serious will fall away as your need to survive and feed yourself takes over.

[@yzrippin]

Imaginge if you put the much effort into making change rather than a yt comment speech

[@greghauser742]

"Although I have no proof, I'm certain the consumerism in total has caused an incalculable amount of damage" "I can prove that consumerism is harming every area under the sun" Well...which is it?

[@keithkc9017]

@@yzrippin do drugs or alcoholic - AND homeless - give them 5 years in prison. That will sober them up.

[@yunnybae7556]

I was gonna read the rest, but then I clicked on it.

[@keithkc9017]

What do you mean? How do we solve the problem?

[@TeresaMom1]

I knew this was going to happen when Cities & Towns started building these homeless villages. This is a huge problem in all Cities & Towns. There are way more homeless who don't qualify for these homeless villages than ones who do. Background Checks will come back with negative marks for practically every one of them. Now with that said, it doesn't take much to qualify to live in the homeless villages but there will always be some homeless who won't give up their substance abuse and/or curfew freedom.

[@haroldbrown5642]

Portland Oregon is now a 3rd world country.

[@jobella2656]

You wish, go to the south especially Florida as we ain't noting compare to that.

[@karlabritfeld7104]

So is los Angeles, Oakland, Seattle, Sacramento, Salem and San Diego. The entire west coast.

[@haroldbrown5642]

@@karlabritfeld7104 so true it's too.bad how are country is going down hill.

[@jobella2656]

@@karlabritfeld7104 truth, if they are sick of it, they can leave.

[@jobella2656]

@@timcombs2730 If sick; leaving is an option.

[@arthurseery]

These people are not on the street because they want to follow rules. Quit wasting time and money on people who DO NOT WANT HELP.

[@RCRitterFPV]

More of these... get the tents off the streets...

[@farinshore8900]

And if the government told you that you couldn't drink alcohol at home...?

[@spaceracer23]

It's almost as if flat out refusing to deal with the cause of homelessness doesn't solve the problem....

[@keithkc9017]

Do drugs go to jail. Alcoholism go to jail. Easy

[@ocean6462]

@@keithkc9017 wow what a great way to refuse to solve the problem and just try to make it go away

[@keithkc9017]

@@ocean6462 are you talking about problems or crimes or both.

[@ocean6462]

@@keithkc9017 the problems of drug addiction, alcoholism and homelessness. jail solves none of them, although it does punish people who are addicts. Addiction is solved by people becoming clean, and rehabilitation programs are at least somewhat effective in getting people to become clean who are motivated. In jail, addiction is not solved, and if people stop using drugs cold turkey while in jail, it's less long lasting because they often relapse. Homelessness is solved when people have housing, and people are more successful at becoming sober when in programs once they have housing

[@loschekell]

Walk through a homeless camp and talk to the people. You will see what the problem is. Their mind is gone from using drugs.

[@mtwhyte8505]

If you're talking about dignity village. My husband and I worked our asses off cutting wood and doing everything we needed to do. And because of a behavior of our family friend we was denied getting in after all the hard manual labor. Dignity village gets people to go around and do all the shit * that they don't want to do. They don't want to do any of the hard manual labor themselves so they get idiots like us to come. Once the work is done they'll find some way to tell you that you don't. Just like the one over on overlook Park we went there three Saturdays in a row I took off work three Saturdays. And no one ever came to us and talk to us we couldn't get them in and all we heard was yelling and fighting among the transgenders and the striped people.

[@thathobbitlife]

You're not the first or the last to make a claim like that. I'm so sorry that was your experience

[@ok-fv6dm]

This is unintelligible, were you stroking out trying to type that comment?

[@utubenewb1265]

@@ok-fv6dm You perhaps deserve a tent city in front of your house.

[@billyyank5807]

dang,yea those pesky rules preventing so many. sounds like their life choices prevent them from even getting decent shelter.

[@wonder7798]

The fact that we just got billions of dollars and for all the funding we've received this last year we would have resources. This is backasswards. People need support,the feeling that they have security. Trying to stop using while homeless they don't feel there is a point. I am trying to help a single mother who lost her business and who can't go into shelters due to her daughter's mental disability. She has 2 interviews coming up she has no drug use or criminal background problem is the amount she receives from childsupport and Tanf isn't enough for affordable housing. There are no subsidized housing.

[@ReedsBeans]

I can't wait to get out of this state, to many homeless people that fucked up their lives expect everyone else to take care if them. No accountability at all and no dignity

[@funny3272]

Look the problem is what happens after becoming clean and sober for the Homeless (Houseless). What's forward to look for a Homeless person the other option being Working Homeless? People who aren't Homeless or near becoming one are dealing with the two main issues: Cost of being Housed and getting a job or career that will pay properly so they and family can be productive members of society. The goals are to make sure people can be financial stable in at least the bare essentials to maintain stability in life. Otherwise it's just a rotated cycle of abuse given to members of society. Wonders never cease why people turn to drugs and alcohol while becoming mentally unstable especially in the Houseless Community. And having only 12 months will not cut it.

[@allouttabubblegum1984]

Take some personal responsibility for starters, a society is only as good as what it tolerates.

[@thathobbitlife]

The people of this city are burnt out. Its absolutely beyond time to do what Houston did and start a housing first initiative. Why? Because if we put people into apartments and help them get on their feet what happens? They feel safe, secure and psychology tells us what happens next- their basic need is met and the fear of insecurity starts fading and people get sober because they *gasp* WANT TO and are MOTIVATED To get and stay clean! Then the work on themselves bigtime.. seeing doctors again, training for new jobs or getting back to what they did before homelessness career wise that is.. and Houston found after 10 years their MASSIVE homeless situation was sorted out. You wanna know what the rate was that people went back out ? Some 3% . That's right 96% of the people in those programs stayed involved and got their lives together. Small amount (~1%) left and weren't involved anymore or died or what have you. Why doesnt Portland? You already know. They'd rather spend millions on "solving the housing crisis by building tiny home villages and forcing people to go through shelters and rehabs to get into those tiny home villages. If we're already spending millions as a state on this issue- why not truly solve it? Ask you representatives.

[@greghauser742]

@@thathobbitlife Houston isn't Portland, culturally or politically. Putting a bunch of Portland meth heads into an apartment complex will just turn it into a drug den and the place will get trashed. A lot of these people don't want help. Portland's shitty drug culture, and the woke idiots who enable it, are largely to blame for all of this.

[@catmandont100]

Which "Tribe" introduce heroin to post WW1 Germany...? The same one that did it to China, New York...etc...etc...

[@cliffanderson7544]

They are just drug attics who don't want help.

[@mtthielsen8342]

Well duh, this has never been and never will be a housing issue. If it was, the homeless wouldn't migrate to the most expensive cities on earth, they would migrate from them.

[@AirRaidBaby]

YOUR DOG HOUSES ARE NOT PEOPLE HOUSING. THIS PLACE LOOKS LIKE A DOG KENNEL

[@karlabritfeld7104]

Too bad

[@annihilationHaven]

There is no expression I like less that "beggars can't be choosers". We, collectively choose to make our brothers and sisters live in doggie kennels. If life was better when the very first settlers came over from Europe, without even having anything - it should tell you something went horribly wrong.

[@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920]

I knew someone would complain about the tiny houses. They are clean, safe and basic. What kind of palatial accommodations do you think should serve as homeless shelters?

[@amygirl1661]

I don't think there was fentanyl laced drugs when the first settlers came over. But there was scurvy and smallpox and that couldn't be good for living conditions.. .... I'm so confused by your comment. lol

[@annihilationHaven]

@@amygirl1661 You're on the right track with the no-fentanyl, keep going... no identity crisis, no monetary limitations, no land limitations, no passport, no economic competition, tight-knit family and extended family, no roboticization, no terrible marketing and media - actually no negative influences at all. Granted there is no more land to expand to, but we can replace the inspiration of the new world that was lost with SOMETHING, we are not that inept that we can't get inspired? Or maybe we are that inept.

[@tmm226]

The whole country is in decay..

[@duvine3882]

True, telling that to any who thinks is only in Portland and nowhere in the states or the world is never understood.

[@AlexRocks24-7]

It's only going to get worse 😞

[@thiel289]

No, you need shade for people, Not prison guards. You cannot put them in parking lots behind fences. Walls are not the answer. I bet the administration of the project are chilling on a beach in Cambodia sipping away their profits

[@seananderson5334]

Life in the US is like a video game--you're on "very easy" mode and it's pathetic you can't succeed.

[@jobella2656]

Also they get triggered from getting their belongings stolen & being victimized by emotional/verbal abuse from others like them that make the relapse if in methadone treatment.

[@thathobbitlife]

I've been on methadone after a heroin addiction. You dont automatically get kicked out of the programs for relapse. You just have to go in every day again.

[@jobella2656]

@@timcombs2730 You wish; only the rich gentrification done by people like you can do that but no one cares, sad.

[@jobella2656]

@@timcombs2730 If you believe that you're hopeless, sad.

[@jobella2656]

@@thathobbitlife In housing facilities is different as they do if it is with DV.

[@jobella2656]

@@timcombs2730 If your simple solution thought were real it wouldn't apply to other cities and states but it doesn't; sadly.

[@clifftonanderson4984]

Noone wants resources because u can't use drugs

[@johnny316b]

" Some Portland homeless villages are struggling to reach full capacity " does anybody proof read this shit

[@warrenjansen7096]

Not a dumpster fire.... Your city is just a dumpster! These people are given something more valuable than a decent home, they're given a chance to get their lives back, and they won't follow the rules to get them there. Speaks volumes as to what is most important to them and the enabling that society calls help!

[@TheTaoofEternalWar]

They just need free housing where they can do drugs all day, and food and medicine and a good maid and handy man to keep everything in shape. So, yea. If they had all that then they could really start breeding. But don't worry, they will breed anyway.

[@duvine3882]

Breeding is now a mandate buy big gvtm to carry full term for more generations of the same as if it were planned.

[@standepain]

1:18 Who the hell designed that layout??? Why not have them in rows?? You could get almost twice as many in there and if one gets damaged in a fire or something you don't have to move 12 of them to get to it. It would make it easy running power to the units (if they ever can) and make security checks much easier. I'm sure they wanted that cozy cul-de-sac fell for these but it's a complete waste of valuable space.

[@thesaneparty4079]

It's almost as if the homeless enjoy their lifestyle, kicking back and having sex and drugs right where all the fun is, you know, where you want to be rather than some free housing somewhere where you can't smell them. It would solve everything if each democrat merely allowed a homeless person to live with them, in their home. Why abstract your generosity through the prism of someone else's money, when it could be so much more rewarding up close and personal?

[@sz5263]

Portland used to be such a nice a city not too long ago. Sad.

[@BensCooking]

I bet u liked it when there was young tech money flooding in haha