I'm Worried About The Future Of The Internet...

[@abehill5412]

It's always "Save The Children", but they never, in fact, save the children.

[@Ram84_1]

AND always "national security" "for your safety" "for your health" all scapegoats for total control.

[@abehill5412]

​@@Ram84_1always. First, weaken the educational system, promote having as many kids as possible, slash pay/worker's protections, make sure the parents don't have the skills to actually parent, then pass bills to "Protect the children", "For your protection", "Your safety". And people believe it because they're not taught to think critically.

[@mightypancake2211]

Always a reason to step in and take more power. They sugar coat it. But really lets remove the safety labels and let nature sort itself out. Or parents will parent their child and they will have a working individual and not a vegetable or government puppet.

[@foodmanelman]

Those children are being saved to work in factories.

[@KinonitsuYaomura]

Pin-worthy comment

[@draakisback]

From a security point of view this is a mess. Just what we need, thousands of databases that contain personal identification which can easily be breached.

[@SauceyMan76]

Cant wait to get my info leaked😂

[@derricksorrell182]

@@SauceyMan76it already has been I guarantee it 😂

[@zid9611]

​@@SauceyMan76 you mean again. It happens 8 times that I know of for me. My bank 1 time, medical building a few times, Sony. Happens all the time

[@lololololololo]

share w/ everyone now

[@pocketsizedweeb]

Can't wait for those databases to be used for AI training!

[@BusyBee227]

Let’s be honest…none of these bills are really to protect children…

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

Yes they do. Stop being a doomer 😂 it’s for kids not to restrict people

[@SolaireHighwind]

Absolutely. Oftentimes it ends up *hurting* children.

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

@@SolaireHighwind no it dosent

[@googleisevil8958]

@@herrforesight-Satanisking Dude, they always use Children to push through idiotic bills that screw everything up. You know how you keep kids from seeing the worst of the internet? Don't give them a phone until they're 13th. Or better yet, make sure they have no internet access on computers or phones. We don't need the government to step in.

[@intello8953]

@@SolaireHighwindhow? The internet is literally over 30 years old? How has it “hurt” children? Regular internet has already done some damage to children 🙄

[@KommanderKarl]

Requiring a photo ID to access adult websites is like putting a lock on a cookie jar and hiding the key under the mat lol

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

that's the perfect metaphor for this

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

Why are people so dumb. When did the Internet go from being free to do what you want, to... monitoring children and censoring everything.

[@advikperuka1567]

don't forget the person who hid the key watching you trying to open the lock so that they know who you are

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

@@KommanderKarl Man!

[@i04q3aa]

Simile ​@@KevinoftheCosmos

[@assasin101011]

I believe the endgame we're heading towards is either needing individual accounts for every website or having a universal internet ID to access sites. It’s like creating tiers of access, and honestly, that’s not the kind of future I want to see. Let’s cherish the freedom of the internet as it is now before such a reality takes over.

[@yogfan1139]

this used to be somewhat a thing before the open internet. they used to have subscription tiers for accessing the web regardless of utilization. which is also why floppy disks were so major before the open internet protocols of today. not to mention netscape navigator had a chance to prevent the thing muta is scared of and yet specifically chose not to and the people who disagreed left to form firefox which then got more diluted till its just the same as everyone else as they lost the power to change anything.

[@enderguy1648]

So a lil kid can look up corn??

[@Serjo777]

@@enderguy1648 "Little kids" don't do that, and adolescents do it _willingly_ and don't need to be prevented from doing so.

[@Mamazephis]

@@enderguy1648 As if thats the internet's fault, watch your damn kids

[@TercesGarret]

And why do populations not have a say in this? No one voted for this. Why can we vote for moron B or moron A but not for this?

[@KaguyaH]

We need to start forcing parents to take accountability for their actions. No, little Timmy does not need 24/7 unfiltered access to the internet on his iPad, and ID checks aren't going to protect little Timmy because his parents will just log on with their ID.

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

You have to trust the system. When has the government done you wrong before?

[@sonicthehedgehog1606]

One question. How do we get parents to do thwir job?

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

@@sonicthehedgehog1606 they already do. Just accept that the internet needs restrictions

[@sirripsalot420]

And what freedoms are you interested in infringing on to force these parents to shape up?

[@Rat-King27]

The problem is that it seems no country wants to tell parents to get their shit together, at this point I'd be in favour of parents needing to take a written test before having a kid.

[@cup_noodls]

The kids are the perfect scapegoat for politicians to attack someone's rights

[@palm_fangz1018]

Unless it's guns

[@NormCantoral]

its a new meta that they have found. regulations need new ways to act "good" and this is their new secret hideout... protecting kids

[@Chaos-vm7cy]

It always happens. It's always an excuse to take away gay rights, etc...

[@sola7795]

Alex jones would disagress​@@palm_fangz1018

[@h3ad_tv]

Or you just show ID and move on with your life ?

[@SEEYAIAYE]

"think of the children" is governmentspeak for "don't look further into why we're doing this"

[@erwinrommel7033]

ooogh. they're thinking of the children alright... governemnt knew what e was doin... uoogh... definitely not suspicious in any way, they are.

[@7cassandraecw378]

The christians always use "save the children" as an excuse to spit out old-world laws back into the world.

[@marten6578]

bane?

[@Meandbroafter2]

They won't collect data of Epstien's clients But will come after the normal person in the name of "protecting" kids

[@jaimeeoww]

THIS!!!

[@thegreatestfallout1794]

Especially coming from California, it's disgusting. The states and cities that push for child acceptance in sexual environments are the same ones demanding ID for porn access? They don't even demand ID to vote

[@k1ifez135]

Exactly

[@harmus69]

It’s even worse here in Australia, they’re trying to put a 16+ age verification on ALL social media. Including things like KZbin and even PlayStation Network + Xbox Live. Even though those are clearly not “social media”

[@epiccrusadr8583]

The Anglosphere as a whole is turning into police states

[@k1ifez135]

An absolute dystopia is on the horizon and it’s genuinely frightening

[@karganor]

So immediately off the bat, I know damn well politicians are going to be exempt from this.

[@layersofsnark6347]

Yep 😂😂😂

[@Div1ne_1]

how do laws work, anyway

[@moosecannibal8224]

Oh of course, they're already protected by arbitrary laws to stop corrupt politicians from being found out to be corrupt, why not exempt them from their personal information being shared

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Oh of course! 😂

[@andygravelle2202]

Yup

[@LuggageStardate]

They passed a law in Indiana, a judge said it violates 1st amendment and does no good since 6 in 10 teenagers uses vpn.

[@jdogus1994]

yep and several big sites said not messing with that and just blocked us, but as you said good old vpn

[@xanderplayz3446]

Funny how a project by the US Army (Tor) is hated by the US government.

[@MsHojat]

VPN doesn't have any impact on age verification. What sort of law are you referring to?

[@boredindahouse4818]

@@MsHojatIndiana requires id on the hub, but states around us don’t, it’s just a warning of 18+ content so just use a vpn to bypass the id check

[@foodflare9870]

@@MsHojat It does if they implement the id based age verification checks based on the location of the ip addresses. Many sites just go, "Oh it needs new thing here, check their ip and put that restriction if the ip is from there" because if they don't it's more annoying for the rest of their users, thus potentially losing the other users. So a VPN could change what location they think the request is coming from, thus bypassing the id based age verification system.

[@MexicanSpy]

Leaving kids with an iPad with unfiltered access to internet should be considered Bad Parenting

[@skoop651]

It's also a problem that kids are becoming addicted to the internet nd starting to identify as things that aren't real because they can't tell the difference between reality and fiction anymore. Sure, it's the parents fault, but it would also be the parents fault if the drinking age was under 18 and kids drank anyways. Doesn't mean the drinking age shouldn't be 18. Also, the internet and social media use of minors is the biggest cause of mass shootings and suicides today. Kids should be living their lives more, and using the internet less.

[@IntrovertRedacted]

​@@skoop651That's just liberal children

[@ruthkatz1998]

it is

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

​@@skoop651You're making the "video games are causing children to be violent" argument and you don't even know it.

[@erikarmstrong7474]

Good luck restraining the internet when they go to school. One kid with a unfiltered phone can share it to other kids. It's virtually impossible to stop your kids. You just have to have that talk with them and develop trust on these topics.

[@EpicGamingGuruReal]

It's actually batshit insane that I live in a era that parents don't act like parents and personal government I.D's are used to access adult orientated websites. The amount of easy security breaching that is already happening will just happen more easily. You might as well just give hackers your personal information at this rate.

[@LocalmadscientistLMS]

where does "adult content" get cut off? do anatomy books/websites, medical diagrams, videos/blogs with adult humor but nothing explict count as "adult content"? what about historical art? or books with violence? Its far too vague

[@spear1504]

I’m think this solution is same. as card companies pull off adults content, From other websites.

[@Windrake101]

Thats the point. All about censorship and control.

[@roundduckkira]

It also doesn’t help that the main camp pushing these rules in the US, Republicans, will expand the definition of porn to include anything they don’t like, like trans people existing in public. The vagueness is the point because it allows unconstitutional rules to be created and creates a chilling effect legally to give more power than what is said explicitly.

[@craigbeare9770]

Its not the governemt job to parent children. Take responsibility parents

[@byEVxL]

so does that mean a child that doesn't have good parents should be punished?

[@IntrovertRedacted]

​​@@byEVxL They just need better parents 🤭

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

​@@byEVxL We do it all the time. Children that commit crimes usually have bad parents.

[@Zaque-TV]

Thats not even their goal. Their goal is money and re-election. And whatever the CIA is doin.

[@Serjo777]

@@byEVxL Having access to things you _want to access_ is not "punishment".

[@Fluttershiez]

Imagine all of those IDs get hacked? It's definitely possible in today's world. Privacy is thrown out the window once again.

[@Div1ne_1]

ID uploaded -> ID stored in ram -> verified by ai -> hashed -> hash stored

[@rusi6219]

​@@Div1ne_1that's cute of you to assume that websites which profit off exploiting their users care about securing their user info LOL

[@PsychoBenches]

@@Div1ne_1 still susceptible to mitm attack but still better

[@erwinrommel7033]

happened in turkey. remember that database leak? government required all citizens to log into a government website and submit a bunch of PII, and then a hacker got in and might even to this day be updating that info real time, with a lot of it being available for cheap. tons of people got extorted after they got their information bought. people died. its not a question of "if" that database gets hacked. It's a matter of when. It's a matter of how many lives are ruined

[@IntrovertRedacted]

I'm waiting for hackers to start leaking cvtv footage like it's America's funniest home videos 😙😇🤭

[@ItsN1naBabyyy]

Me too muta, me too. With the internet archive being under fire, the government changes, crazy influencers getting worse (Jonny Somali...), yeah. Me too.

[@wikansaktianto9215]

I blame it all on TikTok

[@ItsN1naBabyyy]

​@@wikansaktianto9215tiktok definitely was a stone on the tipping scale

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

@@wikansaktianto9215Why

[@Johnny_Salamii]

I didn’t do nun 😔

[@riggles]

Jonny Somali is a great thing though, getting locked up for years. People won't be pulling those same stunts with that real risk exemplified.

[@Mickolas08]

My friend had to take away their childs' access to KZbin after they caught their twin 5-year-old son and daughter watching content that looked normal, but had violence sprinkled in randomly. They literally took a giant teddy bear and colored on it red marker, and they said he was murdered. Obviously, the content wasn't appropriate for their age, but my friend was quick to basically remove all their access to KZbin. It was very simple for them to do too, and it should be the norm that parents can just monitor what their kids watch and react accordingly. However, most parent's don't do simple parenting, leading to stuff like these dumb laws. People on both sides value privacy, so it makes me wonder how they can get enough backing for a law like this, other that disguising it as a child protection law.

[@Gurupimp10]

Still a Parent issue, not a KZbin problem.

[@easydubs420]

was it happy tree friends? 😭

[@moonslithernow7083]

It should be the norm but it is not. I agree with this. If the parents won't parent, someone has too and it must be the government. Because the parents are parenting, the government needs to protect these kids because no one will

[@alazarbisrat1978]

@@moonslithernow7083 shouldn't the government hold parents accountable? or better yet, provide this parenting in the education system and force parents to restrict access before they reach the age of that education level

[@mathy4605]

@@easydubs420Sounds like your average Elsagate content. Just keep an eye on what the kid is doing on the internet like a normal parent and we’ll all be fine.

[@BlueRaptorNightFury]

I encourage the people of the United States to inform their government not to allow such a bill to enter law. Regardless of your political opinions or stance. This bill is not for the safety of children but instead to control information through censorship and much worse while stripping you of more personal rights. When a nation based on freedom is stripping rights and controlling speech in an effort of national security or the safety of kids, it is not a free nation.

[@BrianGeller]

When has telling the government no done anything everybody wants someone to fix their problems expecting someone to get in office and safe us from this insanity if we the majority were unified we could end it ourselves we own the country not the politicians but hey why not let someone try to fix our problems that always ends well not.

[@FyuriasLeo]

"Save the children." Its quite simple, don't let them on the internet.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

Yes, the best way to protect your kids is to lock them in a room with no windows and a locked door and never let them interact with the outside world at all.

[@FyuriasLeo]

@@WolfRaven-jm1cm Bro if you cannot process being off the internet and living life offline then that is a very concerning issue. Most of us did not grow up with screens in our face. If you want them here thats fine just make it a seperate thing for them.

[@ZenDeeby]

​@WolfRaven-jm1cm you're not old enough to be in this comment section.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

@FyuriasLeo First. I have no clue what that mess of words even means. Second, every parent has the right to parent their own kids the way they choose. Online and offline are the same place. The internet isn't some fictional world. The internet is just an information hub. It gives people the ability to communicate long distances in a short time. It has achieves of information about every single topic in the world. The problem isn't the internet or unrestricted access to it. The problem is one that has existed long before the internet. That is, that people are social animals and many of them are susceptible to their own lack of critical thinking. Being offline doesn't make you healthy or morally superior. It just makes you more ignorant and limits your scope of information.

[@FyuriasLeo]

@@WolfRaven-jm1cm First off, at no point did I say that growing up offline made anyone better than someone else. The problem as Muta states is parents not monitoring their kids. Yes the internet is an information hub, there are countless ways to make it so they can only find info about everything in the world without them needing to join social media like twitter and ticktock. People are indeed social animals and have had ways to handle that since we were tribal based. Kids do not need to be on social media to broaden their learning and minds. So do not equate me saying to keep them off the internet as locking them away.

[@AnkhPeak]

If I’ve learned anything over the years anytime the government gives the “Think of the children” rhetoric I know they’re not really trying to help or protect kids.

[@SlightlyTired]

They did it with video games

[@addajjalsonofallah6217]

​@@SlightlyTiredno they didn't

[@erwinrommel7033]

as was once said by a famous politician, probably, "uuooooh. think of the children. uoooh."

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

​@@addajjalsonofallah6217 They literally did.

[@ethancoover2282]

95% of the time, in my opinion, the government getting involved just makes the situtation worse, regardless of whether children are involved or not

[@megalith]

This all stems from the citizens bringing up personal problems to the government and enabling the government to overreach. This is the job of the parent.

[@Matt-md5yt]

Thank you. Pretty much the "trust in the government they know was best for you"

[@ZeroXSEED]

Pffft nah, it started with Citizen wanting their rights protected but not wanting to do their obligations I'm no jackboot lover, but please pick your stance. No having a cake while eating one.

[@Griggs58]

@@ZeroXSEEDNo I’d say the issue is demanding the government to “give” rights. A government responsibility is to protect its people’s rights, it cannot give you any.

[@ZeroXSEED]

@@Griggs58 It absolutely is. People acting like the constitution and amendments are divine blessing when it was written by the earliest form of US governance. And supposed to be continuously rewritten as opposed to be left frozen and "Creatively interpreted" by ruling political parties

[@addajjalsonofallah6217]

​@@ZeroXSEEDthe government isn't God and is not a perfect moral entity so it can't grant anything because it is evil by its very nature

[@whw148]

"Save the children! Think about the children! You're not a monstrous degenerate are you?" They say as sell your information and data

[@OmniMon94]

Really wish there was a way to convince more parents to take accountability and change their way on how they view their kids on the internet. The internet shouldn't be the new norm for caring for children.

[@Pillowie]

There are a plethora of parents that act as if it's everyone's job to raise their kids except themselves. In turn, everyone else has to suffer the consequences because many parents are either too ignorant or can't be bothered to properly monitor what their children access online. They always talk about "protect the kids" and yet millions of children are FAILED by CPS each year. All this sounds like to me is a disaster waiting to happen.

[@erwinrommel7033]

CPS... uooogh... so successful...

[@cMind607]

CPS'S biggest failure is them literally alerting families before popping in... They shouldn't. I have someone close to me get CPS called on them and they were heavy drinkers, not anymore thankfully but CPS didn't help with that, they informed the family someone called and they'll be doing a checkup or sum and I guess they got rid of the alcohol bottles bc they didn't do anything

[@CHAINVIPERx]

In my country, parents blame animals for doing animal things. Street animals should not exist they are unsafe for humans and roads are unsafe for animals but instead of asking for better laws and being responsible for their own fking children, most of them blame animals. Blaming them for bad parenting is not something that I will ever understand and the sad part is most people argued with me online when I pointed out this.

[@kaof1958]

sounds to me like Idiocracy

[@residual_soap]

It's crazy that childless independent adults are being essentially punished because parents aren't doing their jobs, i.e. parenting.

[@7cassandraecw378]

The christian dominion will use any excuse to make sure it's narrative is carried out legally. This is a religiously-motivated law being pushed.

[@residual_soap]

@ Ah yes, just another way religion can infiltrate and influence law and order.

[@johnmalkovich5932]

Cringe.

[@residual_soap]

@@johnmalkovich5932 OH MY GOD ITS JOHN MALKOVICH!!!!

[@FireTheNuclearMissiles]

​​@@johnmalkovich5932 OH MY GOD ITS JOHN MALKOVICH!

[@BinkyChinky]

identity theft bouta go so crazy

[@illustration1981]

nah fr

[@palm_fangz1018]

VPNs bouta go crazy

[@xanderplayz3446]

@@palm_fangz1018Tor bouta go crazy

[@themajesticmoose8147]

I am crazy.

[@Pyrotrainthing]

They always intend on protecting and saving children, but they never actually bother trying to help the cases that exist allowing the problem to continue with those they want to very much protect.

[@porcelain-envy]

Unless it’s a government website there really shouldn’t be a need for me to use my government ID.

[@StarWonder]

When a kid tries to enter a bar, it's on the bar to make sure they don't serve someone underage in their house & are liable, & parents need to do the same in THEIR house, because they have more &/ultamate control of their kids than on online websites. The websites are more like someone selling alcohol to an adult, & that adult has the intention of buying the alcohol to underaged folks. It's not the person selling at fault, they don't even know, & it's the adult directly in control of whether or not they buy & give kids acohol. Parents, guardians, etc., in charge of children/underaged folks, need to take responsibility & take accountability & follow through too.

[@MightyKittyKat]

no he websites should protect their users. Therefor if you know your website is and can be harmful to children then it should be locked down just like buying alcohol and cigarettes.

[@ciclon5682]

@@MightyKittyKatjust like in a bar or store that sells alchohol, you can always bee fooled by a fake ID or an adult going to buy alchohol as normal just to give it to minors the second they leave the store. The problem is that on the internet, you have no way of knowing 100% if the user is an actual adult or not, but laws like these are not the solution, sacrificing the privacy of your citizens "for the children" makes no sense, to me, it would be better if the goverment started a campaign to inform citizens of proper use of the internet and how it can be harmful to developing children.

[@monkemode8128]

​@@MightyKittyKat I don't think this is a good idea from a security standpoint. This data will already be sensitive personal information, but the context of where it was found will make it even worse. Not only will people get their identity stolen, but I guarantee you hackers will use this to blackmail people. IMO, a better solution would just be to mandate easy parental controls on routers. For example have new routers come with block lists built in. Doing it that way would also prevent access to the site in the first place, which would prevent kids from snapping a picture of an older siblings or parents ID and using that while not requiring people to trust sleezey sites with their personal info.

[@Gurupimp10]

@@MightyKittyKat websites is not the same as a physical store, thats the problem here.. Very clearly a parent issue, and parents should do a IQ test befor allowing them to even get a kid in my opinion.

[@theoverreactor8731]

The reason why this is a bad analogy is because the person selling knows that children have easy and barely restricted access to the adult type of content

[@maxanderson8704]

Instead of forcing ids for the internet for everyone to use in order to “protect the children” how about instead parents BE FUCKING RESPONSIBLE FOR ONCE IN THEIR MISERABLE LIVES AND REGULATE/KEEP THEIR CHILDREN AWAY FROM THE INTERNET INSTEAD OF MAKING LAWS THAT PROHIBIT OTHERS OPEN AND FAIR USAGE OF IT

[@Div1ne_1]

coomer cope

[@pocketsizedweeb]

@@Div1ne_1 How is telling parents to parent a cope? Really fucking weird you went that way dude.

[@PsychoBenches]

@@pocketsizedweeb Because they wont parent. They are lazy. That's why we are having these laws.

[@joshclark756]

just make not monitoring your kids internet usage be considered child neglect and itll fix the issue

[@rashira9610]

@@Div1ne_1 "Coomer Cope" TF? How do you not recognize the slippery slope? It STARTS with porn.

[@rorolonglegs4594]

This is my favorite type of mutahar content, just straight up important shit, from someone who know's what they are talking about.

[@rorolonglegs4594]

"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause".

[@ronel7836]

​@ordinaryrat i won't say it's shit. However, what i will say is that from what I remember, these videos never get a part 2 or 3. So let's say that this bill does get struck down again, the people that watched this video will still think it's under threat and that the "internet is dead"

[@JayneAFK]

@@ronel7836 That's a good point, actually. Hopefully Mutahar will keep us updated on this, and include links to any updates on this video's description. We do need to hear good new from time to time too, after all.

[@gamelaine]

Yeah, right, because kids definetly aren't devious smart-asses with wayy too much time and definetly will not just use an older sibling's or their parent's ID.

[@Serjo777]

Why are so many people so hyper-focused on the cheap _excuse_ and completely ignore the _actual reasons_ for why stuff like this is implemented? Yeah kids might still circumvent this somehow, so what? That's not why this stuff is being implemented, it's just the excuse they use for it.

[@alfredgreybeard]

I guess they caught on to us. It seemed suspicious everyone online was born January 1st 1901

[@icedbun101]

Lol

[@Rat-King27]

We do need kids off social media, but I doubt this will work, the parents need to be told to do their job, kids are just given an Iphone and given free reign to go wherever they want online.

[@strange-universe]

I read this and it has just occurred to me - both rein or reign will do

[@taylorbechstein1681]

I don't know how we normalized giving BABIES phones and ipads just so they'll be quiet Great job, ya fried the kids brain before they can even form a coherent thought😂

[@kaof1958]

@@taylorbechstein1681 isn't this how the rich benefit off the people? y'all got to understand these things are part of a bigger picture, it isn't a self contained regulation, it's connected to a moving art piece of money and control and that equates power

[@dono42]

I lost my 20+ year PayPal account last year because they started requiring government ID. I am not opposed to supplying it except that they require my account name to match 100% the ID. I only use an abbreviated version of my name, such as David -> Dave, James -> Jim, Alexander -> Alex, Douglas -> Doug, Timothy -> Tim, Jennifer -> Jenny etc. (Not to mention the unused middle name problem too.) They would not accept this so I remain banned. I imagine as more sites implement ID checks this will become more common.😪

[@cyberdragon1000]

lol how else are they supposed to profile you to sell to data brokers? Imagine the loss when they have two records of a jennifer and jenny who would have been more data on the same person?

[@venuslove-i1v]

And by them doing that, I ended up being hacked. I'm fighting with them right now over this...The ID thing just makes our information even more vulnerable on these sites.

[@dono42]

@@venuslove-i1v Hopefully it works out for you. In my case I escalated the matter until someone in their management called me. Over a few days we talked for several hours but in the end they told me I would have to get a court order from the government in order for them to accept my name. My senator does not respond so I have given up. PayPal is dead to me.

[@allfire666]

it's always the "protect the kids and the kittens" kind of laws that are the most nefarious

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 pointless

[@erwinrommel7033]

whenever the punchline is "for the kids" or some bullshit like that, like "the patriot act" or something else along those lines, it's literally just authoritarianism

[@blazewagon5677]

every year we fall further into the abyss and the light is getting dimmer

[@delskif1425]

Laws in place to "protect children at all costs" go back so far in history. It was used to take away rights from whatever people you needed gone.

[@MandoPercussion]

I'm always worried for The Internet too 🙏

[@LegoMaster_7778]

same

[@iiTzBrent]

Yeah brother

[@amongus-fg6xw]

fortnite battle pass

[@Symora]

fr I hope they make more music

[@nivr-lime]

Same

[@UnbuffLimp]

A VPN sounds better every day.

[@erwinrommel7033]

i am trying to talk my family into getting one. its not lookin good. thank goodness for vpns situated outside of countries with those data laws.

[@mrsnayarlhats4242]

Yes exactly

[@BrennanWest85]

Exactly what I use. Everywhere.

[@49531]

All vpns you've seen ads for are so quick to sell your data that you start getting personalized ads before you've even clicked "Connect"...

[@forgottenone2454]

Just like i remember in Russia or Turkey government is so oppressive, around 70% of internet users use VPN, just to browse internet. And that's the reason why "i want to know a little bit more about my citizens" Can go in the long run give you the circumstances to achieve that full monitoring over it's users.

[@lakobause]

Any time lawmakers say "Think of the children!" you can be sure they're not really thinking of the children.

[@erwinrommel7033]

well, not in a good way.

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

@@lakobause idk… there’s probably tapes somewhere 😬

[@Oceansodaz]

This “porn” law is actually to just make LGBT+ sources more limited to children at the end of the day. And anything else they can deem “pornographic” or “adult content” to the population, it's gonna be really funny once it starts hitting topics about fantasy genres being considered “pornographic” like this is the 90s.

[@danielkinton7193]

Never heard about the fantasy thing, what was being considered pornographic? We already do this with anatomy and art books in schools(my mom had to do so much censoring of random non-pornographic "problematic" things back then), crazy puritanical shit.

[@Oceansodaz]

@ fantasy games like Magic The Gathering or DnD are being compared to porn because of some of the characters' outfits and the push to make most fantasy 18+ because of this giant fear that it was detaching kids from reality and filling their brains with adulterated content. Even Pokemon got under fire with it, it was interwoven with religious propaganda with, god forbid, messages of feminine independence like Misty.

[@Oceansodaz]

Other arguments against Misty were that it was showcasing kids that redheads weren't demonic for example and that was a problem to them. It was mostly just a bunch of grey hairs that had problems with women in the media in general. Christian belief systems make the excruciating point that women are the servants of mankind and only to men. To showcase otherwise was and is still considered explicit and repulsive. A work of the devil.

[@Oceansodaz]

@@danielkinton7193 they applied similar logic to rock or metal music.

[@danielkinton7193]

@@Oceansodaz Right, I almost forgot fantasy novels and their scantly clad damsels, and Lara Croft.

[@MrKittycats]

They tried something similar here in Italy too but the law never passed.

[@xXHashassinXx]

I've been thinking for several years now that i might live through both the birth and death of the internet.

[@tarhun9977]

Congratulations!

[@hcbs1986]

Protocols don't die, not at this large anyway. It's just going to progressively get worse. Also it was invented in the 70s,

[@xXHashassinXx]

@@hcbs1986I know I'm old.

[@ivantaufikovich9447]

It's awesome seeing the peak internet moment all the way to it's death in a single life time. We are sooo lucky

[@zoblul]

Me too, I feel the best times kinda passed me by; lost to time or my memory. It's been bugging me maybe more than it should.

All of this because parents can't bother to set up a minimum parental control.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

That's not really the issue. The problem is that other people want to be the parent of someone else's kids because they believe that they are morally superior.

[@Compact-Disc_700mb]

@@WolfRaven-jm1cm Both of you are correct. Many people do just give their kids unlimited internet access. And you are also very right. In many schools in "western" nations have let in leftist ideologues who push children into harmful directions for the sake of "progress and morality". Both problems are unfortunately prevalent.

[@swagmuffin9000]

@@WolfRaven-jm1cmyes, this is a reason. I would also add many parents don't talk to their kids. Also, unfortunately, there are ipad/pc parents. The ones that give them devices so children stop bugging them.

[@CristianTheRich]

@@WolfRaven-jm1cm I think this would literally be the case with saying something like 'parents MUST set parental controls on their kids devices' yeah in that case its forcing your beliefs but in this instance its hardly a moral argument, if you think someone sees themselves as morally superior because of the idea children shouldn't be exposed to porn, you're just morally wrong and a creep.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

@CristianTheRich You literally just put yourself on the moral high ground. Rode your moral high horse into this conversation. The fact is, there is no scientific data on the subject and it's up to parents to decide what is and isn't appropriate for their own children. It's none of your business.

[@rontom3405]

parents need to be better at parenting... like the fuck?! restrict their internet usage. it isnt that hard to set up

[@pilapila183]

That's not good parenting either. Kids will just see it somewhere else. Parents need to actually talk to their children about these things.

[@therealemperorpalpatine]

i bet your not a parent

[@IntrovertRedacted]

Tbh who's parents ever talked to their kid about stuff. Instead just talk to partner about kid. 😙

[@wrathofainz]

Nor is it very hard to get around (even as a kid, if you're curious enough)

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

​@@pilapila183 I have to agree. You can't just restrict things and expect things to be hunky dorey. Not every kid is going to be a good noodle. You'd think people would know that by now.

[@rbgtk]

You know this will only last until a breach happens and the search histories of senators get leaked

[@amondhawes-khalifa1949]

You scrolled past it, but at the bottom, among those "sexual activities" listed in under 'C' at 5:45, it reads, "Anything taken as a whole that lacks serious literary, artistic, political or artistic value to minors." *Anything that lacks value* _(according to us)._ *_THAT. COULD. BE. LITERALLY. ANYTHING._* (-_(\

[@wikansaktianto9215]

World War III? Alien? ID Check? Is this Metal Slug world we lived in?

[@Kaistickmin]

Ayeee I get the joke (If it is one)

[@unknownsoul9300]

nice reference

[@macksnotcool]

Psycho Mantis? Wait that's the other metal guy

[@farenhitegr6493]

Wouldn't be surprised if Amadeus is behind all this mess...

[@josh6or7]

W reference

[@LunaticKD1991]

The government doesn't care about your health or safety. The government cares about control. They want to know what sites you're accessing at any given time and who you're communicating with.

[@erwinrommel7033]

hmmmmgh... maybe its time to become a hermit... like in lord of the shacks... i'll be a hobbet...

[@Serjo777]

Looking through the comments here, it's really scary how many people don't realize this ridiculously simple and obvious fact. So many people just buy the excuses and act like "pRoTeCtInG tHa ChIlLeNs" is the _actual_ goal here... Thanks for not being one of them. (shadowbanned)

[@Diegotheartist1]

The problem with the ID checking systems is like you mentioned, the identification data can be breached (even before it is purged), and parts of the identification data like a picture or a 3D model scan (polygons and textures) can be used maliciously with A.I., such as Pornography and Propaganda.

[@erwinrommel7033]

turkey made a government database where citizens had to submit their information. it was breached and the hacker didn't just get information once. they actively updated the database daily. its not a question of if it will be breached, or a matter of how badly. it will be breached, and it will be scraped clean.

[@agalerex]

And it doesn't stop a kid from "borrowing" their parents ID a single time just long enough to take a picture of it using their own device (or, better yet, scanning it and sending it to said device), then using it whenever their parents aren't watching. So.... GG law? Please no remake. PicardFacepalm.jpg

[@forgottenone2454]

Government is a very slow machine, like a whale. And every malicious actor is equivalent of a crocodile that done thousand bites on them. The more control in governments hands, the more that leads in "data breaches". Because if the hacker can only access the info you gave him, there nothing a situations when too disruptive thing such as bank account AI scam or blackmail could happen in a first place. And even if it's happen 1 in 30000 situations, now EVERY HACKER of this 30000 have easier time to deanon you and steal your information. One whale can't do anything by its own. It's just a big and clumsy target, but hundreds of dolphins can easily protect each other with grace!

[@MightyKittyKat]

all of your data is out there already . almost every company out there has been breached in the past 5 years

[@TheRaven-WingGaming]

Just like "Red-Flag Gun Laws", they use the same tactics. "Oh save the kids! It's for the kids!" It never actually is, and theh use that line as an emotional Trojan horse for those who are more emotionally vulnerable and/or able to be manipulated.

[@jblazer2492]

Bro, mass shootings are a regular thing. No, selling a weapon to a psycho that has said their going to do a mass shooting should be prevented. Don't conflate everything

[@overlordbunny8860]

11:00 Hah Imagine the Bouncer at the club taking a picture of your ID then saying "I'll delete it when you leave"

[@Symora]

that one movie Idiocracy was just a prequel to history in the making

[@GrubbsandWyrm]

It wasn't supposed to be a documentary, but it was

[@lordsysop]

The next four years is going to be idiocracy endgame 2025

[@GrubbsandWyrm]

@lordsysop but the plants need electrolytes

[@kaof1958]

@@lordsysop it's already been that, the film was a foreshadow of human history, it may have broken a law of Newton or Einstein

[@megaham1552]

The problem is so much content will be filled with AI and bots in the future that we won't know who/what is real or not

[@kennyrgb2700]

I feel like we're already there. If you've been paying attention fake accounts dont have to be bots or ai theyve existed since the internet's inception. Im thoroughly convinced now that there are propaganda machines of fake accounts that have been sewing dissent of the western world since the beginning.

[@erwinrommel7033]

on a happier note, gaming.

[@JadedWarlock]

Watching your own kid seems to be the hardest thing for the modern parent(s) to do. Jesus Christ.

[@erwinrommel7033]

well they're all blind from the white phosphorous factory exploding. very unlucky...

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

The problem isn't parents watching their own kids. A law would never be suggested for that reason. The problem is that people want to parent other people's kids.

[@terrorbilly1]

Make contraception great again.

[@timinou9915]

The end goal is digital ID for everything. It's just how they start

[@KSH13OFFICIAL]

The government went too far in my opinion, also encourages dark web to people.

[@brandoncipriano5574]

This is why things like Internet Archive, Data Hoarding and Kiwix are so important.

[@confusedashell020]

Laws are rarely, if ever, used for what they are marketed as being used for. They might be used that way lopsidedly to punish outliers.

[@SlightlyTired]

It’s to control us

[@xxarcangelxx143]

The next 4 years are going to be an absolute circus with said people causing the problems and then blaming everything else instead of taking responsibility.

[@YukarisMyGal-x5d]

​@@xxarcangelxx143 Don't act like it's primarily republicans when countries like Canada and the UK are doing the exact same thing. We are not safe from either side of the spectrum, whether that be left or right.

[@xxarcangelxx143]

@YukarisMyGal-x5d it's literally primarily regressives

[@eegernades]

​@@YukarisMyGal-x5dAt least with the left, they at least have a history for consumers than the right, more so than less.

[@BadPerson789]

@@YukarisMyGal-x5d I would agree, but this bill and other forms of identifcation are being mainly pushed by republican in the us.

[@aerickmon3350]

@@YukarisMyGal-x5dI mean more right side parties for those countries spectrum of politics have taken seats there as well The British one is literally labeled itself the nationalist party

[@yourlocalmadjack8374]

Nobody can convince me this wont be used by the US Gov to blackmail people

[@Serjo777]

They would never.

[@RavenWoodsDE]

Isn't that effectively child abuse? Like in.. they're using children for their own, nefarious purposes? How is this legal?

[@k1ifez135]

It’s not legal, but it’s more of a diversion what they’re basically trying to do is cover up the fact that they are using this to protect children so they have that excuse

[@Donut6975]

I’m calling it now: We are gonna have a world crash just like cyberpunk The old net will die And a new net will come to replace it

[@palm_fangz1018]

With all the ai shit going on, you may be right

[@nicholasbrown668]

tbf the new net is the old net, just the parts of it that were saved and cut off from the rest of the net before being infected, the new net is everything the Corps have built off that

[@JoshuaC0rbit]

That kind of happened a couple of times already, but yeah, we're due for a new patch anytime now.

[@erwinrommel7033]

but all of my... literature... the archives. very unlucky...

[@H.V.C_Shino]

Why do you think Elon musk needs to die? What do you think star link is gonna be?

[@Rul4rzR4achFan]

1984 is starting to sound more realistic, Orwell was really ahead of his time

[@KevinKlien97]

“Starting”? We’ve been there for a loooong time lol

[@Rul4rzR4achFan]

@ fair point

[@scapeagoat2520]

@@KevinKlien97It’s going to get worse next year

[@Gary_M]

The Handmaid's Tale has already begun.

[@erwinrommel7033]

literally 1984... this all started when

[@kirigherkins]

I'm so sorry to hear you live in Canada, I hope you get well soon

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@businessmike2371]

Lmao!!

[@ScaryMango6755]

why? is it very bad there?

[@goodluckpup]

​@@ScaryMango6755 I'm wondering the same

[@christianguest63]

When Muta starts talking about how he’s WORRIED FOR THE FUTURE OF THE INTERNET it’s time to start listening and preparing for the worst

[@bosmicc]

Holy shit you are a small channel. I didn’t realize until you mentioned it towards the end of the video! I’m currently at ~700 Subscribers working hard on my own channel, and it’s super motivating to see a channel of a similar size do so well! I see that it has gone from 1,000 subscribers to over 3,000… So congratulations, man!

[@azureascendant994]

This is going too far and invades privacy... I just wanted porn ads off websites that are not porn sites. I don't want my mom coming over to look over my chrome and see a porn ads pop up and start asking questions. Parents need to parent not the government.

[@cosmicsvids]

They can't do shit the internet is the wild west there will always be a large amount of people who don't care about the law take piracy as an example its impossible to stop despite it being illegal. There will always be sites that don't have the id check.

[@rovingmauler7410]

Mutah Thumbnails: “I’m so scared this will ruin the internet” 😃 “We all barely survived!” 😃 “North Korea will get us all!” 😃 “They fixed GTA collection” 😕

[@tonib1999]

im worried about the world, not just the internet 💔

[@Polku-hl3zr]

Me too, mate, especially the fact that my or our country is going to be run by a child predator.

[@Serjo777]

@@Polku-hl3zr Oh no, he walked in a room?!?!?!? What a MONSTER!

[@Polku-hl3zr]

@Serjo777 yea not only that, but there are cases that Trump was with THE EPStein

[@Polku-hl3zr]

@Serjo777 did you not comprehend what you read? I said by walking in. I meant he Diddied Minors. I hope you are being sarcastic, tho. Ok , I won't fight you, but i hope the files will one day release this year.

[@Polku-hl3zr]

@Serjo777 and look, i would get into more details, but yt despises misinformation speech, and i only heard it from someone in person, but I forgot to ask sources, though.

[@SiliconSlyWolf]

I have really mixed feelings on this one, but I still lean on the side of it shouldn't happen, because I think sacrifice of freedoms isn't worth the protection it probably won't even gain anyway. But I will say that I really don't like that minors are ever allowed to use a site like Fur Affinity. It has an SFW mode, and like any adult site, it has an on your honor system "yes I'm of legal age," but everyone knows you can just lie on any of those things. And it isn't even that I'm concerned about the NSFW possibly harming them, it's the fact that minors and adults should not be allowed to co-mingle on NSFW sites for legal reasons. An adult concerned for the legal safety can accidentally get into all kinds of trouble if a minor lies. If you can prove they lied, you can get off the hook, but if you can't, that can be a major problem. And I had a friend have to block someone for eventually revealing they were actively lying about their age, were a minor, and claimed adults are just being ageist.

[@BigToro]

these laws won't fix bad parenting (the only thing that will is proper parenting), they just cause more inconvenience for everyone, at the cost of privacy.

[@danielkinton7193]

That reminded me of a video I just watched about Culpa Innata on Accursed Farms channel. They have child labor, and a 5th grader calls you ageist and threatens you for not treating her like an adult.

[@LunaStar666]

The UK wanted to do this.... and it backfired hard by the public but they still want to do it at some point. I agree, if you're a parent, educate your child about this content and let them know the dangers of it (viruses, shocking content, etc.) or use a ghost or a tracker to keep an eye on what they do on the internet if you find something that they shouldn't be looking at educate them about it and explain what they did wrong same goes for them contacting or being contacted by adults or people that shouldn't be talking to your child. The way I see it, if you're unable to protect or educate your child about internet safety, or if you aren't educated about the internet or don't know how to use it then just don't have it in your household. If you don't understand or know how to use the internet or what the internet is about then ask others that have more knowledge and learn from them same goes for any type of technology. It's a bit like having a car but you don't know how to drive but you have one just because everybody else does.

[@R3TR0J4N]

for real tho for the the age of information, there's a lot of misinformation. i grew up fact checking myself for the sake of not embarrassing myself just for people to blatantly casually does the opposite.

[@erwinrommel7033]

i love making shit up on the internet

[@ksim3461]

14:04 They tried this in Australia. Whats a VPN going to do when this is a interlocked global initiative? Also, to jump on the conspiracy angle: What if things were allowed to get so flagrant just to implement this overcorrection. The principle of "Ordo ab chao" is a great way to leash what the internet used to represent.

[@heinrichvonschnitzel8600]

Darkweb baby

[@steakssndwich]

@@heinrichvonschnitzel8600yes love waiting 1 minute for a webpage to load in 2024

[@lordsysop]

Banned porn in Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Utah and Virginia. ID required

[@3amreddit379]

stop sacrificing freedom for safety

[@cate01a]

and also stop sacrificing freedom for nothing

[@magivkmeister6166]

*The illusion of safety

[@3amreddit379]

@@magivkmeister6166 i think the high moral standard is getting too far to the conformist programming you guys have forgotten the found fathers principles

[@moffichu9150]

14th amendment section 3

[@Serjo777]

@@3amreddit379 Umm.. what does your reply have to do with the guy's comment?

[@Z3R0FiR3]

1984 is slowly becoming more of a reality.

[@keylightsystems]

As soon as a politician says they are doing something for my kids they lose my vote.

[@aikoaiko2008]

It was an honor to once know and share a truly free internet of the yonder years with all of you. But it seems the time has come. So, hasta la vista, baby.

[@Polku-hl3zr]

Until one day the ones who remember return it to what it once was...

[@VertitexX3.0]

Wouldn't this just make ID phishing 💯% easier for hackers/scammers?

[@7cassandraecw378]

Isn't that the point?

[@Serjo777]

It makes control and surveillance easier for governments. Which is the entire point of this law.

[@mstrzg]

Those who sacrifice liberty for safety end up with neither

[@TheKooljack2000]

And will lose both!

[@krazygreekguy]

Man I miss the 90s-2000s more and more every day

[@Mimic-l5h]

i love how the answer to this issue is literally the first line "the responsibility of the parents" if you are a parent and you let your kid free on the internet, you are a shit parent.

[@tagnar8962]

Imagen having to put an id in to get mods for skyrim or any game on the nexus because we all know what the majority of mods are.

[@LingWujue]

Seeing internet as it is now, kids are shielded more than enough as they are. We had barely internet at the time, had to ask someone if we wanted something downloaded and everything was fine, we're fine. Overprotecting is a bad thing, not a good one. Kids that want to know will learn it one way or the other.

[@MrDJFlyHi]

I honestly blame the parents who want their kids to mature and understand the world at a very young age.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

Why? Just because people have a different style of parenting doesn't mean they are wrong or that you are right. Actually, evidence shows that placing more restrictions on children often leads to them being worse than if they didn't.

[@burgzaza]

Parents that give their kids ipads, or phones, should think a little harder..

[@AmbassadorBreadloaf]

​@@WolfRaven-jm1cm Just because people have a different style of parenting doesn't mean they're in the right or that you're wrong, either. It all comes down to how it affects the child. Giving a kid access to the entire internet will affect them significantly worse than restricting that access. They get exposed to so many (mostly bad) things before they even start going to school. Kids don't have any media literacy and learn what's right and wrong from the people around them. Imagine if a 5 year old latches onto someone like Logan Paul and decides to copy their deplorable behaviour because it's depicted as being "cool" and "trendy". The result isn't pretty, and I can guarantee you it's so much worse than anything placing restrictions might make them do.

[@WolfRaven-jm1cm]

@AmbassadorBreadloaf There is no scientific study that suggests that and actually they have suggested the opposite. Children who grow up using technology tend to be smarter than those that don't.

[@AmbassadorBreadloaf]

​@@WolfRaven-jm1cm Of course there's no study that shows it, because this is a problem the youngest generation is facing. The studies you're talking about were carried out back when computers and the internet was more primitive and thus needed a certain level of technical know-how to navigate. Once newer studies on the youngest generation comes out in a few years I don't think the results will look very promising.

[@xynonners]

pretty sure that every time "protect the children" is brought up it means the issue at hand is not really an issue and is just shorthand for "let us take away your freedoms, pretty please :)"

[@CrimsonJelly]

Put it this way, you need to be 18+ anyway to sign up to use and pay for internet services. It's literally the adult's responsibility for giving that child unfettered access to the internet. Period.

[@SqualingtonConstantine]

A requirement to give out your ID/DL to access any website with explicit content? Ain't no way this is actually gonna happen. Do you even know how many websites host 18+ content? More than anyone has the patience to count. This would just be an ATOMIC security risk. Parents. There is NO ONE else to blame but yourselves if you find your child looking at explicit content on the internet. PLEASE just use parental controls on the devices your child has access to.

[@tmoney1487]

This has already happened in several states. Parents just need to strap the fuck in and have these conversations with their kids like Muta said. Everyone's been a teenager at some point. We've all been curious. The harder you try to block them the more curious they get. The more you try to bottle it up the more likely it is to flow over. Parental controls are your best tool in these scenarios, and talking to your child is always going to be the better solution to just letting the government take care of it

[@Cosmoflips]

They should count the ID verifications and give a coomer of the month award to the person who accesses adult material the most.

[@GooeySplat]

i wish that were me

[@abyssguardian]

One way this could be abused is someone setting up a simple macro to constantly verify their ID 24/7

[@randomuser5443]

@@abyssguardianhe with the most impressive macro will make the most impressive numbers

[@yen6170]

"your Honor,the client was at his very house relieving himself on the Hub at 1:45 to 4:15 am...he cant be at ther crime scene" head ahhh

[@benjaminnguyen554]

lol Dave Chappelle did a bit on this

[@yen6170]

@benjaminnguyen554 oh shit you right I just remembered lmao

[@GooeySplat]

me fr

[@shaughnsimpson441]

Currently in Australia, being rushed through parliament is a restriction of all social media for anyone under 16. How? The government dont know, they want to enforce a law they dont know how to monitor and have said "Its the responsibility of the social media companies". Its such a mess and will affect everyone, under or over 16, will I have to provide my ID to ever sovial media company? And not to forget, they are confused as to what social media is. The latest onw has been a politician saying Steam is a social media platform because users can interact and make posts to each other. Everything is broken, in the name of saving the children :/

[@VarVarJeg]

why cant parents set up the most basic parental controls like limited access cmon, if you just give ur child an ipad with unrestricted access thats considered bad parenting

[@stilnoxVisions]

The more destitute I see Mutahar in the thumbnails the more worried I get about life in general.

[@Sumikrios]

Don't worry, it's fine. I'm just using a free VPN and definitely not risking my private data at all.........probably.

[@rashira9610]

Hahah, who's gonna tell him that the reason a free VPN is free is because all the data is being sold and there is no expectation of privacy?

[@velox_vx]

Need a ID for everything other then voting apparently

[@Matt-md5yt]

Some states had that apperently

[@CassiusZedaker-pr7kc]

@@Matt-md5yt North Dakota, where I live, requires an ND ID or Driver's License to vote.

[@erwinrommel7033]

shitting my poop

[@VoltrenXytech]

just a correction here, but higher end nightclubs, bars, and shops that require IDs to do stuff in now scan your ID to verify that its a legit ID and not a fake ID as for expecting parents to be parents, ive yet to find a single parent IRL that is ever remotely willing to police their kids like their supposed to without going super overboard, so thats not a winnable fight as far as i can tell, even though its literally what would fix most of the problems, but because kids have shown to be complete shitheads over the past 20-40 years, now it looks like if adults want to feel safe in adult environments they'll need to go through a ton of heightened security checks

[@deletedgamer111]

Whenever you see the word "reasonable" written in a new law being passed, you know it's going to be anything but.