Something Has To Be ETERNAL, folks. That’s the problem with the question.

#god #atheism #jesus

[@deanm5305]

Jesus:" Before Abraham was..., I AM"

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

the problem is we know the creation story is just mythology with a 6300 year old universe. there was no Adam or Eve, no fall of man or original sin which means no need for a savior. Jesus was just a man who they made into a myth.

[@themindset-yj3hp]

@@defenestratefalsehoodsthere is no proof that any of that didn’t happen

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

@themindset-yj3hp We know the earth is not 6300 years old(following the family lines of Jesus to Adam), we know a large meteor hit the earth millions of years ago killing most of the life on the planet(Not in the bible), We know there was no flood 4300 years ago (several civilizations recorded history during that time including the Egyptians). Everything we can prove about earth and human history shows the creation, Noah's flood, tower of babel, and the entirr exodus story is not true. You would have to deny known history to believe in the bible that has no evidence

[@gameschadwick]

@@defenestratefalsehoodsyou can say you don’t believe it and that’s fine and dandy but you can’t say “we know it’s mythology” because that’s just nonsense. No one alive on earth today was around to witness the beginning of everything, so no one knows what happened. People just have different beliefs, whether it be the story of creation passed down through generations and written in the Bible, the theory that nothing exploded into everything and life evolved from nothing, or whatever else anyone may believe. We choose to believe what sounds the most logical to us.

[@Thyalwaysseek]

No Jesus is not God.

[@lynnramreddi3244]

I feel sad for human beings who question their creator. They need to open the eyes and look at nature. No one but God can create such beautiful plants, animals and every living thing and the way it functions.

[@jeffreyhearn8930]

Nature absolutley exists.... no evidence about any 'god' though.

[@kevinouellette5316]

Many times the questioning makes someone's faith stronger. Anyone who says they have never doubted is not being truthful. To question our Father and His existence, but to still find comfort in their faith and belief in Him and hold true to it is a beautiful thing. I'm glad your faith has given you peace. Be well

[@CriticalCipher]

Yeah cause pugs always looked like that, no way things can envolve and just have been some stupid cells in a puddle. We can clone and deage mice and yet I'm suppose to find the flawed desings around us to be amazing. Looke a hog thats horns grows into it's eyes and tell me thats a beautiful design.

[@urasam2]

Plants and animals weren’t created.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Yes and no... 3rd Dimensional Mortal.

[@ILootStandingStill]

“Complexity requires a designer! Except for this infinitely more complex supernatural deity!”

[@nickm7447]

"the world couldnt have just HAPPENED" but god can, ok

[@ILootStandingStill]

@@nickm7447 special pleading at its finest

[@Chris_Sheridan]

@@ILootStandingStill .. ok - so how far back do you want to go? A more complex 'god' created 'God' .. what would be your next question?

[@simonp4832]

Complexity shows a mind. Not a creator. A CREATION shows a creator. God is not a creation, thus needs no creator. Hope that clears it up for ya.

[@Chris_Sheridan]

@@simonp4832 .. thank you for that! One of the few insightful statements that makes one think on a different level ..

[@Truth-Be-Told-USA]

A question that never gets answered is light from stars traveling at the speed of light is proving stars are much older then the story book written by humans. Wake up

[@jacobblakely2224]

My response when I'm asked this is, "God created time, so he must be outside of time, and if he's outside of time, he doesn't have to follow its rules, like having a beginning or an end."

[@downshift4503]

In that case mass and energy are eternal as the laws of physics shows they weren't created.

[@user-bh8te3yt3l]

Of course you can prove this theory of yours I take it? Otherwise you have said nothing. Just assertions with no evidence. What a stupid argument. Atheist Still.

[@user-bh8te3yt3l]

Of course you can prove this theory of yours I take it, otherwise you have only made assertions with no evidence to back them up. It is a stupid argument that has no weight. Atheist Still

[@freerideforever888]

​@@user-bh8te3yt3l...An atheists "last resolve" when they have asked all other questions about God. Again...the human mind cannot comprehend an eternal Creator if their minds are under the influence of the master of lies.

[@freerideforever888]

​@@downshift4503God operates in His Kingdom Law's not earthly man made law's...lol. A supreme being does anything he wants because He is omniscient.

[@Wildminecraftwolf]

You know what else is not affected by time, space an matter? things that dont exist...

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

😂😂😂😂

[@drewdavidclifton]

Do you think there has to be a First Cause? Everything else is cause and effect... It's how science works.

[@Wildminecraftwolf]

@@drewdavidclifton clarify what you are talking about

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

@drewdavidclifton There could have been a 1st cause, but there is no evidence to what it could be if there is one. Every culture seem to make up a god and many have been disproven by learning and observing.

[@Wildminecraftwolf]

@drewdavidclifton if everything is cause and effect, then God had a cause, asserting that he was the first cause has less evidence than asserting the big bang was the first cause.

[@kirkcharlton1308]

Thats not an athiest argument. All an athiest has to do is wait for someone to say god exists and the athiest will say, show me, i dont believe you. Thats it.

[@wheatandtares-xk4lp]

The necessity of the existence of God is revealed in nature by the necessity of an uncaused cause and the complexity (e.g. fine tuning* and life) evident from nature. Asking someone to show you God is like asking someone to show you mathematics when you're staring at an algebra test.

[@ccrow3355]

And as a believer all I have to say is hes right here. Can you not see him? Your perception must be broken since you can't. You will say my perception is accurate. I will say prove it.

[@vikinglife6316]

The problem with Atheists is when you do show them how they can receive that evidence they reject the method that will give them what they claim they want. Christians been saying it for thousands of years. Some explain it better than others but the fact is Jesus laid out what it takes to know God.We are not talking about blind faith and hoping He is real but rather encountering Him, experience icing Him, hearing Him, knowing Him. If people refuse to accept that then they will be forever ignorant. Atheists have settled on the scientific method to answer every question about our existence and that is where they fail. They are studying the effect rather than seeking the cause. Until they change their perspective this debate will go on indefinitely. Atheist's really dont want to know if God exists. Some of them sure but the vast majority have no desire.

[@robertnagel9894]

​@wheatandtares-xk4lp show the syllogism that concludes the necessity of an uncaused cause

[@wheatandtares-xk4lp]

@@robertnagel9894 the vast majority of our knowledge is not dependent on bare logic in the form of syllogism The uncaused cause is necessary because observations like the second law of thermodynamics and expansion of the universe show us that the universe does not have an eternal past. Because spacetime is dependent upon the universe, we conclude time had a beginning. In order for time to begin, something outside of time must have started it. Things outside of time cant be caused, because the concept of causation requires time to occur. Therefore an uncaused thing created time, and from time's perspective, that was the first cause.

[@jusk2ru]

As an Atheist I can tell you we do not care where he comes from. We have more pressing matters at hand like choosing a topping for a sandwich.

[@barefootkid592.0]

Really because you people infiltrate our content all the time! If you dont care then don't show up in the thread.. I certainly don't go into your content and leave messages on the thread, because I don't want to listen to ignorance.. that wasn't to be mean just stating a fact where there is enormous proof that God exists..

[@iantilley1]

Ooh, which topping did you go for?

[@jusk2ru]

@@iantilley1 Pate with mushrooms. Yum.

[@Philip_A_Gibson]

I applaud you for admitting you just don’t care.

[@mr.palmer6778]

@@jusk2ru Explains it all ^^^^^

[@earleearle3759]

I like this , i have really opened up to God in the last few years. I'm 50 and have lived a life, look deep inside your self, lose the ego, EDGING GOD OUT. Open up. Great Video thanks

[@joered4689]

What happens once u open up to him ?

[@earleearle3759]

@@joered4689 you find peace and love ,

[@SophieMera-yi3of]

​@@joered4689 God becomes a part of your life, you repent of your sins and Receive the Holy Spirit

[@joered4689]

@@SophieMera-yi3of what the heck does that even means, what sins ? I had to pay for the funeral of my maid’s baby cause he got malaria and she was too shy to ask for meds money. This is one of the 400 000 babies who die yearly from malaria alone here, what’s their sin ? Not being able to move their lips and articulate their devotion to God ? Or maybe they didn’t repent their sin for shitting their diapers ? I’m sorry I asked, agree to disagree but this makes absolutely no sense what so ever to me.

[@CJ-dt5mh]

@@joered4689this is a fallen world. That baby is in heaven with Jesus. Just like if you make bad decisions & bring children into this world while on drugs or whatever the case may be, your decisions effect them. In the same way are effected by our greatest grandparents in Eve/Adam’s decision to disobey God Reality has ripple effects that even if you may not have caused, others still effect you If you want to know what sin is, look no further than your conscience. God wrote His law on our heart, any action we make out of freewill that is contrary to what we know is right…is sin

[@barneyfifesmom]

God blessed me with a wonderful, wise mother. When I was very young my mom tried to explain Jesus, Heaven and God to me. I asked her who created God and she told me, " oh honey, He just is!" I accepted it with zero questions. I guess that is what faith is. After my mom passed from Alzheimers, the Lord gave us an amazing supernatural sign, in my opinion that she was alive and happy with Him. A cell battery greeting card she received 4 years prior to her death and had sat forgotten in a basket with other cards, untouched, started playing it's song the day she passed and her family was gathered together. It never stopped A couple of my siblings took turns taking the card home with them and were witness that it kept playing. It was still playing 5 days later when we buried her. We put the card in the casket and even with the casket lid sealed we could still hear it. To me, that was a reaffirmation my mom was more alive than what she had been in many years. Thank You, Father!

[@AlfonzoCam]

That's the dumbest proof of God I've ever heard.

[@Anewday1979]

@@AlfonzoCamIt’s not so much about the story, or the card, or the music or anything. What it IS about here is the soul confirmation this family felt and still feels. IYKYK… When things like this happens and it makes no sense to anyone else, that’s because it was never meant for anyone else except for this family. Otherwise everyone would feel what they feel. Which is that instant, undeniable, spiritual confirmation… That is immensely reassuring, optimistically proof revealing, and spiritually comforting. And it’s beautiful.

[@AlfonzoCam]

@@Anewday1979 keep defending the stupidest proof for God.

[@barneyfifesmom]

@@AlfonzoCam that is just one of many proofs of God I have. If you need a visual proof, you have missed the point and i feel sad for you. There are many people who have their own proof. Some have even been pronounced clinically dead, some went right into an encounter with the Lord and some saw hell, only to cry out to the God they denied and mocked and were graciously pulled out of that hopeless situation, and sent back to earth with the message that eternity is real and where you spend it is your choice. I know where I am going when this life is over. Do you? BTW , if I am wrong, (I am not), and the atheists are correct, there is nothing after this life and all consciousness ceases, I will not be disappointed because I will have ceased being. But if I am correct and you are wrong, I will be ecstatically happy and you will be, well wanting to die but not be able to. Also, for a 4 year old cell battery card to start playing by itself and keep playing for 5 days, is remarkable.

[@AlfonzoCam]

@@barneyfifesmom who TF needs a visual proof of God. That's that low IQ speaking making assumptions. when did I say that, your book couldn't even get how the sun's gravity affected the earth correctly. Your book written by the hand selected messengers of God literally was told by god the earth was the center of the universe and the sun circles the earth. Your gods words has absolutely zero idea Sagittarius A* was a thing 2000 years ago while literally stating everything in the universe god made himself. When your book couldn't even get how our own solar system works while it had to be the first thing god ever built by your books words you'll need to provide more proof than this bullsht thing happened so gods real. Here. Boom 30 seconds just went past nothing happened so god is fake, prove me wrong. Don't worry I'll wait.

[@L0VTX_H8CA]

Yeah so a lot of folks get into studying the universe and what’s around us and end up denying Gods existence. I’m one of the folks who get into this stuff and affirm my belief in the Bible and God. If the stars were made to worship, so will I! AMEN!

[@amankolli]

we have no proof of gods existence so that would be assuming gods existence without proof, which is against science

[@Jaymay98]

Why does it bother people so much that people belive in religion and god. The same people that will make such a big dead about Christianity, will protest the rights of Muslims and their religion on the other side of the world

[@GerlockArgentDawnUS]

The mental gymnastics these people do in order to maintain their belief in the face of reason is impressive.

[@chadguy45]

Its just logic though?

[@Maaru107]

@@chadguy45It's not.

[@chadguy45]

@@Maaru107 how?

[@The_Urchin13]

In other words, you don't understand the obvious. Don't worry, your mama still loves you.🤪

[@chadguy45]

@@The_Urchin13 we are Christians, we dont insult.

[@DentZilber]

I'm atheist and this has never been a question for me.

[@InevitableTruth.]

Yes. The fact that there's hundreds of gods being worshipped alone explains for itself.

[@travishouston3825]

@@InevitableTruth.just because there are many people believe in means none of them can be right? Can you give me any other examples of where this logic works in the world. I mean I know there is a ton of theories on if the earth is round, or flat, on the back of a floating animal..etc. But just because there are many doesn’t mean that one of those isn’t true

[@InevitableTruth.]

@@travishouston3825 Ah yes by the slightest chance of being born in hundred of countries, you happened to be born in the right religion. Lol

[@travishouston3825]

@@InevitableTruth. what do you mean? Can you show me the verse where it says God will damn a person who never even got the chance to hear 👂. I’ll be waiting

[@InevitableTruth.]

@@travishouston3825 Ah yes verses. Written and manipulated by the church. I use common sense which any human possesses.

[@Bertoleyus]

Hey, Kent Hovind. It's been a while since I've seen him.

[@NS-ie2ld]

I wonder how long after this was taken was this criminal sent to jail. Kent Hovind is a con artist should still be there

[@andrehanderson]

Hes a lowlife criminal, in my humble opinion

[@criticalthinker2477]

Yea, that's because he's been in jail. He's a convicted felon. You evangelicals only seem to consider morality when its convenient (like you do for Trump).

[@Tamytutu81]

Where is Kent these days?

[@greg4016]

​@@Tamytutu81 he's out of prison. ten years goes so quickly 😀

[@christinemiller1946]

People can truly be blind. I dont understand how they DON'T believe. It baffles me, honestly 😮

[@CriticalCipher]

It's pretty easy to be honest I dimply have no reason to believe it.

[@JaniceEllis-bk6fn]

God is a spirit, those that worship him ,must worship him in spirit and in truth, we have to first read the Bible, and not only read the Bible we must also believe it.

[@lator1941]

God is not a spirit. God is spirit.

[@jenscoconuts]

What the f### is a "spirit" ? Ever saw one??? Or just heard people talking about it? Just as the 200% interest that they will give you, if you just give them your money??? I'm afraid both are liars

[@user-fm4fm4vz7z]

He didn't come from anywhere, everywhere and everything came from HIM!!

[@R.leo1110]

then what is him?

[@user-fm4fm4vz7z]

@@R.leo1110 HIM is everything!!! Use your imagination.

[@R.leo1110]

@@user-fm4fm4vz7z we can only imagine what we can conceive, to be able to do that we must first develop our intuition and connect more with the whole, it's not as simple as you think, do not expect others to think, see and imagine in the same way you do since we are all different people with extremely different backgrounds, the only thing we share is being human.

[@WildBikerBill]

Exactly, the Atheists get it backwards as to what was first.

[@JAA949]

​@@user-fm4fm4vz7zUse evidence instead, using your imagination is what created all gods to begin with.

[@kaptain1477]

Plasma: like I don't exist

[@swagdaddy5387]

The point of a god is creation, I don’t get why atheists ask that. God exists outside of existence, so saying “where did he come from” is like asking “when did humans invent the moon?” It’s a question that doesn’t have an answer because the question doesn’t apply

[@AFTERJESUSOWNHEART]

When Jesus comes back or when people go see Him, all this disrespect and unbelief is going to be a wrap. Those that are His are His and those that ain't... ain't. I'm just over people not believing because they rather live the way they want to when they know they're wrong in how they're living. Not being unloving, just saying go live yo life but know at the end, you better know you're right about there being no God! #ChoseUpOrDont

[@CalamariPlaysStarfield]

See this is funny because depending on who you ask you on average have 2 to 3 answers. 1. "There is God because the Bible says so" 2. "There is no God period" or 3 simply "I don't know" Science is to explore the unknown. And from what we have as of present day, we have no proof of any religion actually being factual. There's a saying. "Those who have no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence" and my other favorite quote "If an argument last more than 5 minutes, YOU'RE BOTH WRONG!!!" I do not claim to know anything other than this. Science has proof to back it up, and can be tested. The same can not be said for religion of any kind.

[@vvslaysnoobs9595]

@@CalamariPlaysStarfieldThere is plenty of proof for God, if you read the Bible and then look at the events on our history it lines up also Jesus is who he claims to be I pray you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and God as I have done and we will change your life for the better! God bless brother!

[@DM-dk7js]

@@vvslaysnoobs9595incorrect.

[@CalamariPlaysStarfield]

@@vvslaysnoobs9595 You mean the events that have no solid evidence of anything happening other than the Bible saying it happened? I've read both the old and the new testament cover to cover a couple of times, and I had to force myself through the old one... Because... wow... that's... I don't even have to say anything it's just brutal. Otherwise if I didn't I would be a hypocrite. And there's basic science that doesn't add up with Christianity to be exact, what so ever. The biggest one being "Adam and Eve" Even if you use the cop out of "It's a metaphor" just proves my point, it's a metaphor therefore, up to interpretation. And my personal interpretation of anything of the bible is that there's stuff in the Bible that just goes against everything we know about science, and it just has to sprinkle in manipulation and fear tactics on top of it to keep control. And I'll take it a step further, I am open arms to being proven wrong here, I'm open minded, if God wanted everyone to not doubt know his existence, do you not agree he could just... I don't know, send a message to everyone or something? If he has the power to creature universes, a single one way message that is impossible to disprove because EVERYONE HEARD IT at once and knows they're not crazy, is all it takes. And please don't pull the "that goes against Free Will" BS as to why he couldn't do that, because that's just sounds like an answer someone who has no solid answer would say, because it's not controlling anyone, it's him simply showing he without a shadow of a doubt exist. I... I just don't get it. As a 21 year old with Asperger's who didn't grow up in a religious house hold, I wasn't exposed to that as a kid, and if anything seeing it now just makes me think it's just a way to give one confirm in the fear of the unknown, which I'm not judging, BELIEVE WHAT EVER YOU WANT, just don't come to me saying you know God 100% factually exist because I would love to see this, HUMONGOUS discovery in human history that goes against all laws of physics and has no other explanation other than God, or Jesus that works too, because then one would prove the other

[@DM-dk7js]

@@vvslaysnoobs9595incorrect.

[@rogermoore1288]

Undisputed Kent Hovind vs three 1st grader scientist. 💪 ☝️ May God Bless us All. In Jesus name. The return of the One True King. SOON... 🙏🙏🙏

[@MaxShibby]

I don’t agree with a lot of Kent Hovind’s theology or beliefs, but he was epic in this debate with the Quaker Oats man

[@sundayoyedele2862]

God is God! Full Stop! How privileged we are that He allows us to know Him through our Lord Yeshua Meshiach (Jesus Christ) 😊❤ Pure love to you all!

[@Gibstone1979]

Answered without answering the question like a true politician.

[@ead-pv5lb]

He did answer it. God is uncreated and is outside of space and time

[@danj8038]

Jsut say you dont accept his answer. He clearly gave an answer dude

[@miguelvale756]

​@@danj8038not a good one though

[@miguelvale756]

​@@ead-pv5lbwhy does the universe have to come from somewhere but God doesn't?

[@phcx1]

There is no answer, the clip is incomplete

[@josephmueller6842]

God is everywhere, so He doesn't have to come from anywhere, He's already here.

[@frstchan]

Except that there is zero evidence that such a thing exist or even can exist.

[@ZenrRockStarr]

Hovind's response was hilarious. I'm still laughing at his science word-salad. Sadly, most christians will latch onto this without understanding how nonsensical it actually was.

[@dlingfasin6826]

Explain how this perfectly rational answer is nonsensical.

[@ZenrRockStarr]

@@dlingfasin6826 "the trinity of trinities". What does that even mean? His god transcends space and time -- convenient. If something is outside of space/time then how can you experience it? Nonsensical. He doesn't "know" that god is outside of space/time. He just made it up. Note how Hovind, will pseudo-science scripture using our current understanding of the big-bang. In the beginning there was... then tries to draw a correlation to what we know about the big-bang. There are new theories (string-theory) that ponder if time may have existed prior to the big-bang. Will Hovind shoe-horn that into scripture next? The Bible is NOT a scientific book. It's not even historically accurate.

[@x_tils_yx9862]

@@dlingfasin6826 Rational? Do you not realise that religions are called *beliefs* for a reason? While I respect religion, I don't respect pushing it onto others.

[@dlingfasin6826]

@@x_tils_yx9862 Thats your opinion and your (id say false) view on what belief means. Besides what Dr Kent believes, the argument he used is perfectly RATIONAL meaning based on or in accordance with reason or logic.

[@Apebek]

It was totally rational. He just sees the bigger picture without knowing all the scientific details. Many scientists get so caught up in details they fail to see the bigger picture. And when you solve the issue by deductive reasoning you are called crazy because you provided no empirical proof which they solely rely on.

[@Truth-Be-Told-USA]

God suddenly was bored so he had to create. Trouble was he had already created satan BEFORE. Its in the book

[@adrianojames8388]

He is without beginning and He has no end . No father or mother He needs no one to advise Him . He is from above . All of us are from down below . His name is Jesus Christ . And everyone will bow their knees to Him and confess He is Lord . Those in heaven , on earth and in hell .

[@immortalirx]

Well that raises more questions then answers

[@adrianojames8388]

@@immortalirx Hopefully for you that question is , WHO is Jesus Christ to me ? That question everyone answers with what type of Life they live , and in turn determines where each person spends eternity . But make no mistake , everyone will have to answer to Him .

[@immortalirx]

@@adrianojames8388 whatever helps you sleep at night

[@adrianojames8388]

@@immortalirx My sleep is great , I have none of the questions you obviously do concerning Jesus , care to share them ?

[@immortalirx]

@@adrianojames8388 nah

[@beadoll8025]

There's a lot of people who simply just don't get it, yet these are the ones who claim to be intellectuals. God is NOT a created being, HE CREATED and much of humanity has extreme difficulty wrapping our finite minds around this concept. There is an infinite God and we will be held accountable for what we've done on this earth, and some of us just don't want to admit it, therefore we suppress the truth. Many atheist say, I don't believe in God and interestingly enough God doesn't believe in you either because His Word says, "For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Romans 1:20 Play games all you want but during your Judgement you'll find out that you PLAYED Yourself.

[@DM-dk7js]

Isn’t that convenient.

[@guillermochavez2515]

In regards to the accountability and judgement that you mentioned, what punishment could make justice to all the genocide hitler committed? Just asking.

[@BOBANDVEG]

It's not complex. God is energy, power. Even science proves that energy can not be created nor destroyed yet has always been

[@Raptor3388]

How do you know ? Why should I care about your vision and not my wife’s completely different religious beliefs? Claims claims claims. You demonstrate nothing.

[@MrTheclevercat]

We don't believe in magic. It's not like we have difficulty understanding that you do believe in magic.

[@audreysmith6923]

God is and always will be. He is from everlasting to everlasting. He is eternal. ❤

[@arthurschamne]

Nope he has only been here since the first human invented him

[@TheRealTrucido]

So many atheists in the comments here that don't comprehend the word Eternal. Do yourselves a favor and look into the definition of Eternal, then go look at the fact that the universe isn't. The universe had a beginning, the universe is decaying, the universe will end. God is outside of the universe in which he created. Heck you can think of it like a simulation if it makes it easier for you. Is the programmer inside of the computer parts? Nope. Does the time of the computer effect the programmer? Nope. I can set the date/time on my computer to whatever I want instantly. Doesn't change my reality outside of the computer.

[@Pablo28feb]

Awesome, glory to God!

[@joelomax]

Just because we don't know how the universe started does not necessarily mean there is a God.

[@Pyr0Ben]

On the contrary :) We know how the universe works. Therefore, we know how it DIDN'T start. It couldn't have been eternal, it must have come from nothing. Since nature cannot be eternal, its cause must be supernatural by necessity. An infinite eternal God is just the logical conclusion.

[@therick363]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Pyr0Ben well that’s not correct at all. 1-we don’t know if the universe had a beginning. It does seem like it did but we aren’t sure. 2-we know how some of the universe works but not all, not even. 3-claiming you know how it didn’t start… a claim without evidence to back it up 4-we don’t know nature of some form isn’t eternal. 5-a god is an illogical conclusion

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

​@Pyr0Ben HOW did you determine this cosmos (if not universe) can not possibly be an eternal realm?

[@Pyr0Ben]

@@Theo_Skeptomai Because we know the laws of the universe demand that this universe could not be eternal. If it were eternal, all matter would've died a heat death an eternity ago. If time were eternal, today could never come. Pure common sense demands that the universe (time, space, matter) had a beginning, therefore an eternal cause. I've never heard another good alternative. Your only counterargument only boils down to "nuh-uh". If you're going to disagree with my conclusion, I think you better have a good counter theory that stands up to scrutimy

[@chrispalmer7893]

@@Pyr0Ben "I've never heard another good alternative"... I'm sure there's a name for that specific form of reasoning...

[@chrispinelli]

Let's go, Kent Hovind, this is some classic stuff here

[@dogwalker666]

Is this before he went to prison for fraud and tax evasion?

[@chrispinelli]

@@dogwalker666 pre, he's got some wonky doctrines now that he's gotten out of jail

[@dogwalker666]

@@chrispinelli Won't be long before he pays another visit.

[@PlubusDomis]

I remember this Kent Hovind lecture ❤ he's changed the way i see history, very intelligent man!

[@humbledaughter777]

Yes. I grew up listening to my Dad watching "Dr. Dino" and little did i know the foundation for my faith was being set

[@stephaniezank7717]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣oh dear, he defeats his own argument and doesn’t even realise it. How can god bring time, space and matter into existence without having the thought to create these things? Surely the ability to think requires time in which to think. Hoisted on his own petard. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@humbledaughter777]

@@stephaniezank7717 You sound very confident, Ma'am. Good for you.

[@stephaniezank7717]

@@humbledaughter777 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣facts don’t need confidence, they’re simply facts.

[@DeusFidelis777]

@@stephaniezank7717you’re a human being with a human brain attempting to limit an eternal and sovereign being…

[@humbledaughter777]

@@stephaniezank7717 I dont think you have thought deeply enough about eternity to be so confident. You arent as clever as you believe and its very cringe.

[@dagwould]

One of the hardest things to come to grips with is that the Universe is not all there is; that there is also God, who is the eternal 'is'. Most people have difficulty conceiving of God as being external to the universe and self-existent, and think of God as being contained by space-time. Yet the God who is uncontained by anything shows in the days of creation that he is directly active and present in the historical world he has made for us to know him in.

[@oksanacrane8644]

💯👍

[@redwoodtrees7068]

god is a made up concept get over it.

[@Imaginathor-1k0]

The universe is a projection of the source

[@defenderofTheWord]

@@Imaginathor-1k0what is the source

[@nytrobomb3971]

This isn't an argument, it's adorable how Christians like to present it as one, when in reality saying "God didn't come from anywhere, he always existed" holds the same weight as a 7 year old child saying "infinity plus one" after losing the famous who can count to a higher number game

[@lstchance87]

And the irony here is your argument is like the 6 yo little brother saying nu'uhh.

[@ItachiUchiha-qx7xo]

@@lstchance87don’t waste your time. These people aren’t worth debating.

[@x_tils_yx9862]

Yeah exactly. And like why do we even need to know how everything began? And what if we won't ever be able to find out since humans just so happened to evolve, we might not even have the capability to find the cause of the universe with only our senses, brains, and technology. That's what I wonder sometimes.

[@IhaveAGamertag]

@@x_tils_yx9862I’m reminded of- “The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you” - Neil deGrasse Tyson And i believe (i forget the source) it was Stephen Hawking who said something along the lines of- even if we discover what came before the Big Bang, we’ll just have another question leading down a rabbit hole. Like, what was before the Big Bang? The Proto Big Bang. How did this happen? When two universes collided. Where did the second universe come from? etc.

[@redace4821]

​@x_tils_yx9862 It's called curiosity, you might not want to think about this stuff but others wanted too, that's their choice. You are fine with the ways things are now but others are not, it doesn't have to concern you.

[@Jonathan-ww3wj]

Probably the greatest tragedy of humanity is the fact that people with an intelligence such as this gentleman waste their entire life and potential on telling and defending fairy tales (that often lead to real violence). Instead of helping our civilisation out here in the real world

[@ead-pv5lb]

Atheism leads to violence too

[@7stringsam943]

As someone who was brainwashed by the public school system during my formative years, I inwardly jump for joy every time I hear Kent Hovind give these types of seminars. I thank God for his faithfulness and pray that he continues to bless Hovind and his family.

[@joshiebig2314]

Kent hovind is a well known con man and a liar. Look up videos of him getting debunked because he's honestly a pretty pathetic man.

[@mgames3209]

Your religion is the one brainwashing you, it literally says that the sun revolves around the earth.

[@randymulhern1290]

I love this. 😊👍

[@kaltorakh]

The eternal question?Theres so many things that show religions (all 4000 of them) are man made... "where did god come from" is never an atheist question

[@robcampion9917]

Most religions are mythologies.

[@lilianacort8750]

Yes most religions ARE mythologies, The Norse Gods, The Greek Gods, the Egyptian gods and so many more all had a Beginning with their myths and they are ALL LIMITED. They aren't gods if they are limited to certain powers and NOT by their own self. But by man made limits. Yet God and Jesus are the ONLY ONES that shows to be eternal AND unlimited. All other religions SOMEHOW connect to the bible even if the Greek Gods are estimated to be 3000 and 1000 B.C, Norse 1100 A.D, 2700- 2200 B.C.E Egyptian gods, Quran 609 - 632 A.D. Yet let's take those for now to compare it to the bible. They all have ONE god that rules/birthed the other. The Greeks, Zeus rules the 12 other gods now we can theorize and say that could be warning to Romans of who was to come in front of them. Jesus and the 12 deciples. The Norse, Odin ruled the other gods and there were 12 realms. Another one for Norse the trinity Odin, Vile and Ve and most likely because they stole from churches and more at the time period. Egyptian myths Amon or Amen is the Egyptian KING of gods. The Quran Allah is God but again it was man made and HANDPICKED to be written. The bible is HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS OF HUMAN EYEWITNESSES of a documented crucifixion that were OFTEN NEVER DOCUMENTED. Unless discussed by rulers due to their name and actions in their eyes like Tacitus breifly discusing the execution by Ponitus Pilate written around A.D. 116 while the New testament Mathew 80-90 C.E. Mark 68-73 C.E., Luke 80-90 C.E. , John 90-110, Acts 80-90, Romans 57-59, 1 Corinthians 53-57, 2 Corinthians 55-58 and I can keep going. While Old testament like the Torah (Gensis, Exodus, Leviticus, and numbers) is estimated to be around 250- 300 B.C.E. The bible is the only one that speaks of life experiences, they can't unsee or hear that often goes against their own sinful actions than just entertaining stories that man made from their sinful nature to fit their actions and experiences.

[@lilianacort8750]

Yes, most religions ARE mythologies. However you need to understand this, all other religions their god is LIMTIED and are MAN MADE limited. Yet God and Jesus are the ONLY ones unlimited and only limited by their own hand. As well as the other religions all somehow connect to the bible one way or another even WITH THE TIME PERIODS. We need to keep searching than ruling Christianity out. Why is it all other religions point to Jesus being one of the ways but Jesus and God are the only ones who point to themselves as the only way? Let's talk about the Greek Gods, The Norse Gods, The Quran and The Egyptian gods for example. The Greek Gods The Greek Gods let's break it down they have a kingdom in Mount Olypmis. Zeus is the KING of the 12 gods in that kingdom. Lets first theorize that this COULDVE been a warning to Romans of who was to come but they played around with it to fit their life styles better in the time. Now Greek Myths were estimated to be created around 3000 to 1000 B.C. The Norse Gods had one all wise ruler Odin. The trinity to them was Odin Villi and Ve who created to first two humans with tree logs. This was estimated to be created 900-1000 A.D yet the core is around 5th century. Now we can theorize this couldve been because they stole alot from churches and villages and made what they believe fit them. The Quran, Muhammad is said the be the messenger of Allah/God. Now he HANDPICKED his writers and with his own actions on how he lived we can see that, that wasn't true at all yet many still believe because of certain words he took from others to fit his life and seem heroic. This was said to be written around 609-632 A.D The Egyptian gods, Ra is the king of gods, father of all AND the gods, sun (could this be a reference to THE SON?), heaven, power and light. While the Egyptian gods were estimated to be made around 3100 - 2686 B.C.

[@kaltorakh]

@@lilianacort8750 you think they thought their religions were limited? They were only limited because their civilizations ended. If a catastrophe would end our civilization and let's say, tribes from the jungle of the Amazonas would slowly emerge and evolve, they would invent their own religions and say yours was a time limited one...

[@lilianacort8750]

@@kaltorakh Okay thinking and what is truthfully written are two different things. They can think or make up any kind of gods they FEEL is right until the objective truth comes out in that new civilization. Truth comes out no matter what happens to us and it could come differently just because we didn't understand it the first time. Their god can be unlimited/all powerful but by what is written they are limited to specific elements/certain powers in those "ended" civilizations. They can be unlimited in those specific powers that is written. However, everything else is out of that "all mighty God's" hands. Also you need to understand the difference between subjectively looking at things and objectively. Subjective mean based on personal opinions and feelings rather than fact. While Objective means variable information based on facts and evidence. This is the same problem we have with many lukewarm Christians who get these two mixed up way too often. Many do it blindly to justify their actions without the context of those verses So your point still doesn't stand.

[@gilbertcuoco]

Just because we cannot fathom each of these to exist without on itself doesn't mean it could not exist. The universe has no obligation to explain itself to anyone. There is no reason to believe in some sort of supreme being just because the "puzzle" doesn't for for us.

[@BrandonEdwards-bl3vv]

That was awesome! Thank You, Jesus

[@davidkonyak9418]

The truth is as the Bible said God always is, always was, and always will be. If you can't understand that get a helmet, life's gonna be tough.

[@MrTheclevercat]

the special needs christian telling other people life is going to be tough lmao

[@ejcarter9]

It is, because so many people think it's nuts not to believe in such weird nonsense. Makes things very tough and sad.

[@mrkay6813]

God bless Brother Kent Hovind.

[@sapphirestar3978]

I love how a another guy: cliff answered this. “Everything that has a beginning has to have cause. Bang, what caused that? Oh nothing it just happened. No it has to have a cause. God doesnt have a beginning or an end. Hes outside of time hes eternal”

[@stephenschreiber2640]

He’s like, “Check it out. Special pleading 101. Alright!”😂

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Genuine question, what is/are the unfavourable aspects that the Christian is ignoring?

[@aromaz1707]

more mental gymnastics from the atheist that also doesnt have an answer😂

[@Raptor3388]

@@aromaz1707that’s the thing, we don’t know. Don’t answer something you know nothing about (qnd certainly never will).

[@stephenschreiber2640]

@@aromaz1707 Do you even know what we MEAN by special pleading?🙄

[@DM-dk7js]

@@aromaz1707why would an atheist attempt to explain why life exists? We are so arrogant to not be able to admit we don’t know.

[@vatoloco1528]

You should have let it continue when he talks about the laptop.

[@cartertran270]

I love this debate. Kent helped me find God.

[@NAME-sl2ms]

I believe Christianity is for the insane.... They'll go to any grounds to provide that they're right... It's so stupid, I can't even laugh at it...

[@skyinou]

@@cartertran270 My condolences.

[@cartertran270]

@@skyinou if you believe a caterpillar 🐛 can evolve into a butterfly 🦋. Or lizard can evolve wings 🪽 slowly over millions of years and become a bird then you have my condolences 💐.

[@skyinou]

@@cartertran270 And that just shows how little you understand, and shows my point about K. Hovind. If that liar helped you find god, I really wonder what kind of god did you find? Because that one is certainly not the creator of our world.

[@callravik]

so basically it is a word salad and a non-answer 😂

[@hibidihibidiha]

Watch the whole video Sherlock Holmes

[@callravik]

@@hibidihibidiha 🤣😂

[@nikosex5282]

The term god is the personification of everything that happens around us. It was a human effort to explain the physical world at a time when everything seemed inexplicable. That is why priests and scientists, believers and atheists, essentially refer to the same thing with different terms. However, the problem begins when we blindly rely today on books written in ancient times with the knowledge, perceptions and intentions of that time without taking into account that humanity is constantly evolving and constantly learning new things about the world around it.

[@mariaarnold6006]

Beautiful! Thank you !

[@lennonkelly-james2693]

Remember kids, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[@camonly849]

We just need evidence to prove. But I agree nature (which didn't exist) creating itself into existence is absolutely baffling. Especially when this isn't even logically, rationally or scientifically possible. Literally never observed the universe to work this way, but dang I guess that's the atheistic answer huh. Well we know one thing for sure. Nothing can't make something....

[@drewdavidclifton]

How about... everything? That's some pretty extraordinary evidence (if taken as such). Meanwhile, the evidence for no creator would logically be, nothing.

[@drewdavidclifton]

Do you believe there needs to be a First Cause? Everything else in the universe is based on cause and effect... It's how science works.

[@lennonkelly-james2693]

@@drewdavidclifton There's nothing stopping anyone from saying "Everything is evidence for *insert random claim*" but actually backing that up is something you can't do with faith based beliefs because the clue is in the name.

[@lennonkelly-james2693]

@@drewdavidclifton That doesn't prove your personal deity and also it'd make a lot more sense if the universe simple always exists. "I don't know, therefore God." Is irrational thinking.

[@patriciawarner9680]

I know nothing about this guy, but I have to give him credit. That answer is succinct yet densely packed and stated in less than a minute.

[@sniperwolf50]

If Kent Hovind had any more hot air in him, he'd be a star

[@frstchan]

Kent just talks a lot of rubbish. Also, he went to prison, so he is not the kind of guy you would take advice from.

[@chandlerraines9972]

​@@frstchan People Go to prison all the time fir all kinds of reasons not all of them are evil. I think he makes better sense than Evolutionists who actively deny science.

[@frstchan]

@@chandlerraines9972 Are you a troll or are you genuinely just confused? Evolution _IS_ science. Its proven fact. Its not opinion. If you dont get this basic fact you should go and read about it, and not from creationist sources. This guy was sentenced to 10 years in prison because he was lying and cheating. And you think this guy is a trustworthy source for ANYTHING? You got to be joking...

[@Nshxywvrz]

​@chandlerraines9972 evolutionist provide actual credible evidence.

[@blazeartz14]

when people say science disapproves God me: Meet this man.

[@CaptCutler]

Kent Hovind is the man. His youtube debates are epic, and his creation series is incredible. No wonder they jailed him on trumped up charged for almost a decade.

[@dma8657]

You think the IRS went after him for being a Young Earth Creationist???

[@ilmt]

​@@dma8657Christians are oppressed, you forgot?

[@dma8657]

@@ilmt I DID forget! Are they?

[@chojin6136]

another one duped by a frankly piss poor conman. celebrate your mediocrity all you want

[@muffinman5423]

It’s easy when you have magic on your side of the argument 😂.

[@drewdavidclifton]

Scientists infer things based on evidence all the time; and sometimes later are able to measure their hypotheses. Unfortunately this One will be hard to measure empirically, since God is outside of the observable universe as per the video. No magic; just inference based on evidence and reason.

[@mikeholm4455]

@@drewdavidclifton there is as much evidence and reason for donald duck to exist that there is a god, they both have a fictional book written about them by people with good imagination and that's about it

[@hibidihibidiha]

A book just magically appeared out of nowhere without an author/designer. Yeah that's pretty magical.

[@amankolli]

@@hibidihibidiha FR

[@Tybakes-x7d]

@@drewdavidcliftonwe have evidence the universe is expanding though and there is no evidence of a higher power so the only sensible thing to believe truly is in science. On a moral level religion is good and fulfilling so I don’t insult it I think it’s good if it keeps you happy and leading a good life

[@JoshDub78]

I say this all the time...something MUST be eternal.

[@user-xr3jr1sf4h]

jesus is not eternal tho😂

[@Conics22]

The universe is eternal.

[@dylanziesing6122]

@@user-xr3jr1sf4h His spirit is, his human body wasn’t though. Jesus is God the Son. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all eternal.

[@qiqi3651]

_MUST be_ depending of what? The term "must" is used to point on the causal link between the cause and the effect. Use it without the cause why something *must* be is a trivial semantic error.

[@user-xr3jr1sf4h]

No it's not . Even big bang guys and atheist guys believe it has a start

[@Jo_Ru]

I won't deny the possibility of a god but I can deny holy books. They were not written by god but by man. Even though it may be the word of god who can prove it is. I somewhat agree with him as there are things that are perfectly convenient so much so that its hard to write it off as a coincidence since science can't explain it (yet). The way I see god is as energy. It cannot be created or destroyed but ever changing and all around us. In that sense god is all around us.

[@debbiejoyner2411]

Good response... 🙏 🙏 🙏 I Am that I Am, eternity, no time

[@ejcarter9]

Yet it doesn't make sense.

[@Rakunasha]

Eternity has an origin to vast eternity, means nothing if you're just a point in time without origin

[@user-xw5sf2xt5q]

only need time to rest the body for one day😂

[@MississippiDevL]

I was anti-religion until God touched me and I fell into a state of unparalleled bliss for 3-5 minutes.

[@gazeta925]

show on the doll where god touch you

[@stephaniezank7717]

@@gazeta925🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣it wasn’t god, he just fell asleep on his own hand.

[@luciparadise6781]

⁠blasphemy will get you nowhere nice 😒

[@luciparadise6781]

⁠Its all hardy-har until you wind up in Hell. 🙄😑

[@stephaniezank7717]

@@luciparadise6781 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣you’re the one who believes in hell, I don’t because there’s no proof that hell exists. Except perhaps pedophile priests, the Holocaust, the Inquisitions, witch hunts, etc., etc., and all committed by Christians.

[@vbonesgaming8476]

If he isn't affected by time, space or matter... he doesn't exist. Easy

[@drewdavidclifton]

Could you unpack that for me? Not following. Thanks!

[@eh-bd2ee]

He does exist it’s just that your brain can’t wrap around the fact that he does.

[@johnboh6382]

How does something come from nothing? Science can never explain something it can't measure; He is eternal, and that alone should be enough to convince you that there is something inconceivable out there my friend.

[@vbonesgaming8476]

@@johnboh6382 Like bigfoot? Like fairies?

[@tomd96]

​@johnboh6382 And yet, you claim everything came from nothing because someone put it there? This makes no sense, either. Firstly, we can put it to bed that the universe wasn't created in a week. We know it'd take many, many, many, many (many), many millenia for even the smallest rock to form in space. We can't talk about time as an on/off concept either, we know time is relative, we know this because we measured two different super accurate clocks at great distances, and found a discrepancy. One cannot claim to understand science and also be utterly ignorant of it.

[@jeffchapman6016]

As an atheist I only ask this question in certain circumstances to make a point. But generally I don't ask where god comes from. I also don't ask where Santa comes from, or where the tooth fairy comes from, or where Bilbo Baggins comes from.

[@KindredKunoichi]

Maybe you should ask who died for Santa, the tooth fairy, or Baggins!

[@jeffchapman6016]

@@KindredKunoichi Maybe you should ask why your god doesn't deliver gifts on christmas eve, put money under your pillow, or smite dragons with his dwarven friends.

[@KindredKunoichi]

@@jeffchapman6016 Because Jesus is real. Hate to break it to you, but your parents or actors play all those characters! Besides, God is not people's personal genie!

[@jeffchapman6016]

@@KindredKunoichi There is just much evidence for Santa, Toothy, and Bilbo as there is for your god: ZERO. You cannot say he is real until you can prove that he's real, and you cant do that. That's why you have to cite faith, and pretend that faith is a good thing. lol.

[@KindredKunoichi]

@@jeffchapman6016 Yeah I used to feel the same way. Then I picked up a Bible. I realised atheists just love to bash only one historical figure, who by the way, most historians believe existed. 68 thousand manifestos as opposed to Aristotle's 10, yet who do people choose not to believe. I doubt you'd believe in Jesus if he walked right up to you & booped you on the nose! I'll pray for you! :)

[@harrycooper5231]

Christians: Everything can't have come from nothing. Also Christians: My God came from nothing.

[@JesusSavesRepent]

God is everything. No Christian has ever said God is nothing. Lol. Not everyone is going to Heaven and that’s ok! May you find Christ before it’s too late.

[@-_Y0urFather-]

God never claimed to have a creator, you see, science is trying to figure out the beginning, but God clearly states that before anything “I AM” meaning, he has no beginning or end.

[@TheRealTrucido]

Please do yourself a favor and google the definition of Eternal. Then do a little bit more research and find the universe isnt. Get it now? Or did the education system max your IQ out at 70?

[@-_Y0urFather-]

@@TheRealTrucido God says that he was before time and will never die. Without a beginning or end, that means he is infinite in time and matter. “Eternal” is just a phrase we use.

[@TheRealTrucido]

@@-_Y0urFather- The definition of Eternal is exactly what God describes himself as. He is without beginning and without end. He is, and always was, and always will be. He also used the word eternal itself, and promises us eternal life. It's not just a phrase, its meaning should be understood. However people today lack the understanding of the word and thus lack understanding of the universe and how God created it. The very notion of "Well then who created God?" shouldn't be a thought in anyones mind, if they understood what eternal meant. Job 36:26 “Behold, God is exalted, and we do not know Him; The number of His years is unsearchable. Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Hebrews 1:11-12 They will perish, but You remain; And they all will become old like a garment, And like a mantle You will roll them up; Like a garment they will also be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not come to an end. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

[@kwamepi1]

I miss Dr. Dino

[@kylethedalek]

Isn’t he still making videos?

[@paulablevins9886]

@@kylethedalek yes, he is . I think it’s called Genesis Baptist church.

[@dogwalker666]

Why would you miss the not doctor? He is a snake oil salesman.

[@dogwalker666]

​@@kylethedalekunfortunately, Mind his script never changes despite being proven wrong.

[@kwamepi1]

@@dogwalker666 your hatred for truth is being exposed

[@Toritori-ke9sf]

“Matter has solid liquid gas” Someone introduce this conman to plasma 😂😂😂

[@paulader059]

Isn't plasma a LIQUID containing SOLIDS😂

[@gerrystevens1694]

...go back to school man.

[@Vinny.X]

That is better known as a "Word Salad"

[@drewdavidclifton]

How so? Pretty cogent (except for the three states of matter thing). 🙂

[@susanmiller8036]

Only to those who don't want to hear it anyway.

[@AHSears]

@@drewdavidclifton The three states of matter are solid/liquid/gas. Doesn't that sound right to you?

[@drewdavidclifton]

@@AHSears Hi mate. There are others as well; plasma being one. Blessings! 🤗

[@AHSears]

@@drewdavidclifton Ah yes, the fourth fundamental state of matter. All the others are rare.

[@blaisebell991]

I’m an atheist and I know exactly where god came from. Humans who where ignorant of the universe.

[@fathersonbrotherunclefrien4238]

Quality response 🙏🏻⚖️

[@aking4130]

It’s not fair. He pulls his answer from the land of make believe and the scientists answers are from gathered data from peer reviewed research.

[@phlyweekly6822]

@@aking4130Let me ask you something, can science explain everything? And if it can, can it explain your thoughts? And if it can, then you did not chose to think what you thought, everything you have ever thought is the result of natural processes that you have no control over. And if that is true, why should we believe anything of what you say? All your brain is is a mass of electrical connections. Why does that mean logic, reason, or science exists? All it means is that a light switch works just like your brain. So why should we trust you or scientists thoughts? Another thing, scientists agree the the universe began at some point. Some have things like quantum string theory. But the thing is, quantum string theory implies a quantum vacuum. A quantum vacuum isn’t actually nothing. It requires certain energies to already be floating around, thus, it couldn’t have caused the universe. Lastly, scientists aren’t human-shaped calculators. They have their own beliefs and stick to them despite the evidence just like regular people do. We shove it down and pretend it doesn’t exist. But once you open yourself up to the evidence, your eyes are opened. I would suggest getting the book by Frank Turek, I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist. And his other book Stealing From God. Really good books that don’t use the Bible as evidence one time. I would suggest start with the first book and then moving to the second. Have a blessed day.

[@jenscoconuts]

Your god made me an atheist by your logic ... I'll guess it's better then to be stoned, massacred, drowned, killed by dogs, send out to being raped by an angry mob, etc,etc... You have such a fun book full of violence and nonsense

[@1AvrgJoe]

​@@aking4130 the earth comes from the matt-ter. Pretty simple.

[@cappaculla]

That has no basis in reality

[@Kazmodan]

He spoke fast and said nothing.

[@ashleyy7106]

You must not have been listening or your just dissatisfied with his answer

[@ArielIsaac8111]

Wow 🙏🏼🙏🏼🤍✝️

[@SergeantA]

That whole 2 hour video he destroys all three of them with facts, common sense and evidence.

[@claudiusatlas8083]

Kent Hovind is a moron lol. He has no idea what any of those three things are

[@non1503]

I watched his first video of this series. one of twelve. just a few weeks ago on vhs. set up a vcr for my grandpa. Because someone gave him this series.

[@stephaniezank7717]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣oh dear, he defeats his own argument and doesn’t even realise it. How can god bring time, space and matter into existence without having the thought to create these things? Surely the ability to think requires time in which to think. Hoisted on his own petard. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SergeantA]

@@stephaniezank7717 man check out the small brain on you 😂 sadly you think God is limited.

[@therick363]

Kent shows he either don’t understand anything or thinks it’s okay to lie and misrepresent things

[@EliasEH89]

Unquestionable because God is above time and space.

[@anguschiggins2161]

And yet funnily, does not explain anything at all. Oh and where is Kent Hovinds Nobel Prize since he has this all figured out?

[@rockprime1136]

The great irony is that atheists claim that God is an unprovable explanation for the origins of everything which is the universe. But at the same time they conjure up explanations that are as unprovable as God. Be it multiverses (unfalsifiable), an eternal universe (contradicts standard cosmological models) or whatever mathematical constructs theoretical physicists cook up (Hawking's imaginary time, I mean what?). Extra ironic is that all of these alternative explanations have to be believed in since none of them has scientific evidence, the precious gold standard they use to assess reality. In other words, atheists take them with faith.

[@CJ-dt5mh]

Obama has a Nobel peace prize. That guy was a senator of one of the most dangerous states. He also bombed Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq and Syria so there’s that

[@Yobigsam95]

He says matter better than English people

[@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom]

Haha, true 😂

[@mick20075]

Nah you got it backwards 😂

[@irish7summits]

What a word salad of utter nonsense

[@anguschiggins2161]

I had more descriptive words, but I'll go with your "utter nonsense". 😂

[@BigKWS]

And you have a better explanation as to how everything got here?

[@DM-dk7js]

@@BigKWSno. As atheists we’re not so arrogant as to pretend to know.

[@BigKWS]

@@DM-dk7js Then apparently you've never heard of Richard Dawkins or Lawrence Krause.

[@DM-dk7js]

@@BigKWSRichard Dawkins makes scientific arguments for those claims. Not atheistic arguments. There are not atheistic arguments. Just atheistic rebuttals to theistic claims.

[@ManSurRoMan]

"He is worthy!"

[@angelollanos7451]

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@Inneraccounting]

You cannot have time without matter. Time is literally the movement of matter.

[@MrEditor6000]

There's no shame is saying "I don't know". God has always been there, but our minds kind asking the question: How was God created. Mandelbrot - we can't explain that... It surpassed all Human understanding

[@elizabethryan2217]

The only problem i have with this argument is the fact that it assumes that human logic is infallible. I think it's good logic, but there's so much we don't understand about everything we could be totally wrong - plus the fact that God created logic: he's not bound by it! If God decided anything should exist, it would do, in whatever way he decided. And just because we can't understand it - even without God's existence - doesn't mean it can't have happened. It's just we don't understand how. I'm a Christian, btw 😉

[@MuscleManSupreme]

Eternal means it JUST IS and will always be God is eternal. God is in that realm. Its easier to understand when you dont hold yourself to human understanding. Its honestly simple and im glad God presented it to me that way.

[@jayc3331]

God is from Pre- Be. Not time not space.. in a form. He gave us his form that only functions in time and space. An instance within a place that can sequence. So what form or (not form) did he exist in?

[@devinryan4141]

It sounds like they’re confusing God with Science. As are most. We have answers for things now…

[@AISciFiStories]

I literally just wrote this on an Instagram post. These algorithms are getting crazy

[@palawanhomeprovider]

Time space and matter doesn’t affect for those who doesn’t exist.

[@kanteannightmare]

I'm often curious as to why they think it's such a gotcha question; is it because they never really take the time to think it through because they just dismiss it out of hand? Even if you disagree with somebody else's point of view that doesn't mean you have to dismiss, it at least think it through and try to understand it as THEY see it...

[@JK-fe7bi]

God came from the eternity to time only one time on a body, we call Him Jesus Christ.

[@itiswhatitis7614]

This is a question that's only referred to by religious people. Atheists know there's no point in asking a question on where something came from until it can be proven it exists.

[@4ourty5ive]

A trinity of trinities created by the trinity. 🎉🤯 God is good… and mind-boggling. God bless!!

[@billfertd]

ya but actually thats not the question the questions is "What irrefutable proof is there that proves that there is a god?"

[@DAANBRO]

"The trinity of trinity's," incredible to ponder. How about this question for the atheist, if there is no God, where did something come from? A big bang of nothing created the something of time, space, and matter? Doesn't that take more faith to believe in?

[@grant8653]

More time on earth has been spent without a concept of religion than with religion by SOOOOOOO much. Atheism has existed far longer than religion.

[@garrithjoynt3018]

A legendary fighter that was petsecuted for fighting against the lies in the text books in all schools !

[@Cam-e4t]

That question is not limited to atheists. It’s for anyone with questions and can rationalize. Also, Kent Hovinds word sales are the tastiest!

[@ursukargaming9117]

Moving god outside of the space time continuum makes it even harder for theism to prove his existence. Besides all other proves you have to prove that an outside of the continuum "exist" AND if there is something you have to prove that it can interract with a completely different reality.

[@nathansmith7645]

I am a believer and i think its a great question... where did he come from? Other than creating us... why does he love us the way he does?

[@jbd4365]

It's hard to imagine what is outside of left up down and right. If time is a creation and we are in a box, our minds cannot comprehend what else exists. It's hard to understand when people say he "just is" but the athiest argument is also that we exist and it "just is"...the arguments are entirely identical.

[@gerikc]

Kent Hovind is BRILLIANT. His creation science series is well worth the watch. In school, we're taught the theory of evolution as though it's fact. Hovind blows the whistle on this deception with some of the most fantastic arguments I've ever heard. He's the O.G. of creation science!

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