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[@fruitbouquet5479]

We’ve been trying to reach you about your *GPU’s extended warranty*

[@legendaryhero90]

Don't give them ideas!

[@willquoikapor]

Yea that would definitely get me. Me:…..I’m listening….

[@nightaox3954]

@Ghost Ghost That's really a scam? That's a pretty shitty scam..

[@itsTenVi]

evga extended warranty for 10 years is 60 dollars. so yea

[@nightaox3954]

@@itsTenVi So cough up $60.00 to some stranger on the phone offering to sell you something you already own? 🤔

[@Dinkleberg96]

When i bought RAM and the RGB on one of the sticks wasnt working i contacted the brand they said that they would send a new one and i could still use the one i had until the new arrives so i could still use my PC while the RMA was being processed but they needed a credit card number in case i don't send back to them the faulty kit, they would just charge my card. That's a good way of handling costumer support

[@snowboarddan5899]

Who was it would be nice so give a shout out to great customer service

[@ronnie3044]

A lot of companies will do advanced RMAs. Western digital has been doing it for atleast a decade. But you have to have a credit card and funds to be put on hold while they wait for the return.

[@Dinkleberg96]

@@snowboarddan5899 Team Group

[@Jp-gc6bh]

Yo. Use more periods man wtf

[@ionstorm66]

They aren't doing advanced rma on GPUs because people would just do it to get a GPU and resell for profit.

[@user-hk3ej4hk7m]

"wow this game is so we'll optimized, it uses all the resources available to it" Gpu: catches fire

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

diablo 2 resurrected uses all resources available too... for a 2.5d game.. made in like 98...

[@raembes]

well, they did no lie. It takes all the resources

[@LinkTheTiger]

Yea! So optimized! Getting 40 fps is amazing. The graphics are simply not good enough for how low the fps is. If I had to guess a lot of the lag is behind the foliage. It's beyond me why there's no option to reduce the amount of rendered foliage. Ark and ESO are in my opinion graphically better and I can easily run them at 60+ fps because I can turn off or significantly reduce the rendering of every single blade of grass, leaf and flower that would be on my screen.

[@jakenestegard8803]

@@LinkTheTiger your pc must be trash I get 120 fps everywhere

[@LinkTheTiger]

@@jakenestegard8803 then you must be some kind of miracle outlier because plenty of people must be in same spot. I've run games that are just as good graphically if not better with 2x the frames

[@austintsang9934]

It crazy that Jay was getting hate for this video for simply caring about his viewers and doin his best to help people not end up with dead cards

[@capawesome3d988]

Fanboys everywhere....and dude, people defending a game from amazon and/or nvidia... it´s disgusting.

[@retrotgames]

I'm not saying there is or isn't a problem. But this video was 100% opinion, 0% data. Literally no data here. Will I run into this problem playing the new Battlefield? Or the last Call of Duty? Or is this literally ONLY New World?! It's just clickbait and panic-ware.

[@titandoomshop]

its cool now just to hate on anything i feel like now adays

[@ShazmanR]

@@retrotgames You are right it may happen with other games but Jay has done some testing with this now and he was right that it is something with this game that other games may do too. I think these kind of videos are informative to make people aware of how to prevent issues happening rather than saying "Don't play this game"

[@edwardcullen1739]

@@retrotgames Wow, that's the smoothest brain take. He showed a vid of a card literally on fire! He has DMs and other comms, which he CAN'T share. You have EVGA officially reporting that they inspected the RMAs and found a defect. There's nothing "click-baity" about it. Everything he's saying is either probably true or believable, based on my knowledge and experience as a software engineer. You sound like "I don't like the message, so I'm going to play games. ShOw Me YoUr DaTa, BrO!"

[@paladingeorge6098]

"New World" is actually just an analogy for the new hobbies you will be taking up after you play this game on your PC...

[@TheFireman18287]

This comment is so underrated LMAO ROF

[@srkango]

This!

[@JeoshuaCollins]

What about board level repair? That sounds like a good hobby to take up afterwards.

[@TheRealAb216]

only if you over paid for a 3090 to game on because you aren't smart

[@OneXPlays1XP]

lmao, you win today sir.

[@Serqonion]

Amazon: Creates game that destroys GPU's. Also Amazon: Hey, we just got a stock of brand new GPU's.

[@jott1717]

It's a gpu problem, I've ran it with no power or heat issues with a 3 year old card and literally 100s of thousands no issue. It's not a game problem it's happening in multiple titles,GPU's break and catch fire everyday.

[@diezeeshoodie]

@@jott1717 Yet all I see everywhere is that New World is the reason this is happening to some GPU’s. Could you be kind to provide me with a link to video which demonstrates other games messing up GPU’s Sir?

[@FrickGuyy]

sigma grindset

[@jott1717]

@@diezeeshoodie I'm not your secretary

[@diezeeshoodie]

@@jott1717 I don’t need one either.

[@CoreyFaure]

It took me too long to realize "New World" was a game and wasn't just code for "This godawful shortage we're in"

[@PopcornChicken99]

Same lol

[@Tatsu4242]

It could just be considered both i stg

[@Huckleberry42]

How can a shortage brick graphics cards lol

[@mwcinci]

I thought it was a nvda update nickname

[@iCore7Gaming]

You must not pay any attention to game news then...

[@Alex2K]

Plot Twist: New World Devs implemented their own bootleg miner with auto OC and that’s why cards are dying

[@JJ_cm]

i would not be surprised at all

[@awesomusmaximus3766]

Or an experiment in forced obsolescence

[@x8jason8x]

Entertaining theories, but the real truth is it's just half wit coders. Amazon is scraping the bottom of the barrel, as usual.

[@awesomusmaximus3766]

@@x8jason8x The owner is known as a tight ass too

[@Skittles49601]

i was almost wondering the same damn thing not gonna lie. they could make millions mining with other peoples pc's

[@DjVortex-w]

I have seen a lot of Halloween videos. This is genuinely and _actually_ the scariest one.

[@tarkitarker0815]

wrong month? but sure dude.

[@Zhinarkos]

@@tarkitarker0815 I'm confused. I thought Halloween *was* in October?

[@tarkitarker0815]

@@Zhinarkos well a halloween vid still can be done at the 1st of november, and thats why i said wrong month, halloween is 31th october to 1st november. if you celebrate halloween the whole month you are doing things wrong.

[@JayMac]

@@tarkitarker0815 You seem like fun

[@tkermi]

@@tarkitarker0815 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ITS_LUMII]

Sadly, I downloaded this game based on a recommendation, didn't investigate anything about it. After selecting 'Play' the screen cut to black, 100% fan speed, followed shortly by a loud pop sound. The card is dead, no video output or fans, only a static red LED on the back. The card was an EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA, I push this card everyday with 3D modeling, surprised a game brought it to its knees.

[@ar1xx._.626]

I dont own a 3090 or any 30 series card but I own a 2070super and I will still not play this game since the curre t GPU market is horrible af.

[@Zachtekaramel]

@@ar1xx._.626 same here with the 2080super.. not gonna risk that either

[@m.j.e.5245]

Congrats, EVGA will send you a new one specifically for that problem, its on their website. Get an RMA

[@shredda7]

did you by chance render with Cycles?

[@rosen9425]

Of all the things possible my last Evga card, 8800 Ultra, died using VLC 🤣

[@MixelPlx]

I've been getting this during Beta and shortly after launch, totaling at about 6 Black screen's/100% fan usage(even reducing power 30%) Knowing now, I'm glad I uninstalled this and aren't rolling the dice anymore. EVGA 3090FTW3 user here.

[@AvgDan]

If you keep the 3090, you're rolling the dice.

[@breakbend7707]

@@AvgDan true story.

[@Maria_Espino]

ASUS cards running smooth... 3080ti and 3070ti.

[@breakbend7707]

@@Maria_Espino cool story, wonder how long it will continue.

[@jakenestegard8803]

I would send it in my dude

[@abnormallynormal8823]

Hear me out. I have the perfect New World build. Gigabyte PSU, Asus Motherboard, 3090, NZXT H1 case. Call it something silly like inferno and take bets on what catches on fire first

[@JoeLeasure]

The minimum we should be able to expect from these companies is that they won't destroy our high priced hardware under normal usage.

[@breakbend7707]

They didn't destroy your high priced equipment. Your high priced equipment was poorly designed and engineered.

[@siraff4461]

@@breakbend7707 Not true. The software is made for the hardware - not the other way around. Since no other software is causing this its pretty obvious its a problem in the code.

[@breakbend7707]

@@siraff4461 actually there are plenty of accounts of other software wrecking these poorly engineered cards, even in the comments. Regardless, no way should any software somehow make a card run beyond it's limits without thermal throttling. Poor engineering along with crap drivers. My best suggestion is to go elsewhere for more informed reviews, Jay is at best an entertaining moron.

[@siraff4461]

@@breakbend7707 You said it yourself. No way software should be able to make it run beyond its limits. Yet here we are with software doing exactly that. The software is developed FOR the hardware. You need to understand that crucial point. The hardware is made then the software is developed to meet the hardware criteria. If you buy a truck with a 10,000lb limit then stick 12,000lb on it what do you expect the result to be? It may work ok for a while or it may break immediately but either way its not the truck makers fault or poor build - its simply going past its design criteria. The safe running specs of the GPU are available for software developers so they know where to quit. Apart from this software the only other failures I've seen verified are where people have been running OC or over power - neither of which are what the cards are designed for in the first place. Too many people have been running OC or heavy load clocks for way too long so they just expect things to take it. Its always been at your own risk but people have got so comfortable with it that they presume its all fine. Oh and as for drivers - this is obviously bypassing the stock safe limits since its actually melting a soldered connection. There are no stock drivers which allow that or anywhere near that without tampering. That alone tells you this is 100% a software problem.

[@HerrFlachpfeife]

@@siraff4461 The software shouldn't have to care about what hardware it is running on. That's why PCs have DirectX or Vulkan and graphics card drivers. If the game is able to cause catastrophic damage to the card the problem must be sitting somewhere within the GPU driver, the GPU firmware and the design of the board.

[@5pr1nk57]

Early 2000's: It's not possible for a virus, malicious code or program to destroy hardware. Amazon 2021: Hold my beer!

[@meneldil7604]

oh it was i unlimted fps could kill the d2 did it

[@pandemicneetbux2110]

This is false. There's been ways of manually/remotely destroying hardware through software for a long ass while now, most visibly internationally when Stuxnet took out those Iranian nuclear power facilities. Basically all you have to do is just modify the firmware to remove automatic shutoff protections for overvoltage/thermals. It really isn't hard to do and I'm honestly surprised hackers haven't taken people's shit offline via physical destruction since the 90s, which as you can see here even a damn game can do it.

[@KhainesKorner]

There was a virus in the late 90's/early 2000's that absolutely killed hardware. I know that because my uni had it and wiped out basically one entire computer lab and half of the other. I had it on my machine but wasn't running it when it triggered. Found out about it when I went into uni, was given a boot disc with a virus scanner on it by them, took it home, cleaned my system, done.

[@jamesblueking9720]

jeff bezos collecting his checks on gpu orders

[@rosen9425]

@@pandemicneetbux2110 well it's not that easy when it comes down to it. You have to be a pretty savvy nincompoop all at the same time. Right?

[@SparcMac]

My 3090!!!!

[@kyle4333]

stake it

[@dudezsnes2747]

Your 3090!!!

[@EZ_SNIPE]

give it to the boys in the yard your welcome!

[@codecakeee]

into the fire!

[@tkbikesnc6079]

His 39090!

[@joyl7842]

In aviation we call these "intermittent repetitive failures". Very difficult to diagnose, so I am surprised that they found the faulty solder so quickly.

[@oh.proxii]

My EVGA 3090 broke yesterday. Playing New World, heard a popping sound, screens went off. Turned PC off went to bed, woke up, turned it on, no dice. RMA'ing Monday.

[@VchaosTheoryV]

I feel bad for those going through this. It's bad enough production throughout the economy is seemingly on backorder, but the prices of GPU's alone would make one cringe.

[@acehighflyer123]

My nephew had a friend spill milk on his GPC, I told him even though you have a RX580 you know I can't replace this for you right? Your card is like 700 dollars right now...lol Fortunately I was able to take everything apart and put it all back together and everything works. Thank god, because on top of helping him get it, I had invested 400 dollars upgrading to a NZXT Kraken water cooler, power supply and fans, with led strips and hub, all of those components of course sporting the best kinds of unicorn vomit worth at least 3 fps. Loosing any of my GPU's right now would be devastating.

[@breakbend7707]

@@acehighflyer123 wtf are you talking about, the 580 is 100 dollar card at this moment on eBay.

[@VchaosTheoryV]

@@breakbend7707 right with no guarantee that it works

[@breakbend7707]

@@VchaosTheoryV you do know on eBay you return electronics to the seller if for whatever reason it doesn't match the description or has issues. I think you have two weeks? The 5700xt's are still a grand or so but it's constantly changing, I sold mine for a little bit over that lol.

[@acehighflyer123]

@@breakbend7707 Retail on amazon and I am talking during the height of the mining craze.

[@chaks2432]

Buying used GPUs be like: Then: "Was this GPU used to mine cryptocurrency?" Now: "Was this GPU used to play New World?"

[@Amy_A.]

As an amateur graphics developer, your analogy of adding numbers to 50 is decently accurate. Roughly, you can either send individual triangles to the card to render, or you can send large batches of them. It's significantly more efficient to send batches. I haven't looked over the draw calls for New World, but if their batching is bad it would absolutely cause unnecessary resource usage. It's not always a simple problem to work out what should be batched together, and what shouldn't, but it should absolutely be something they spend time testing in real world situations, and it seems that's where they failed.

[@yussef961]

but as an amatuer graphics developer you can't agree that a software is responsible for hardware damage , it is always the hardware fault

[@2ttrashwagon582]

​@yussef961 god I hope your trolling

[@princessaltom3072]

My husband’s GiGabyte Vision RTX 3090 GPU was bricked by New World. He modified his power to only let it max out at 90% but it still killed his card. Now we are just trying to get it sent in for an RMA.

[@cmarco3702]

hope it won't take too long good luck

[@princessaltom3072]

@@cmarco3702 I hope so too, it took months of me trying and then finally getting lucky enough to get him that one at MSRP.

[@SuperSlaiyan]

@@princessaltom3072 why even risk a 3090 to begin with lol. HAD to play it now even tho it literally has CONFIRMED to be bricking ppls cards. the fact that he knew about it enough to reduce the power tells me he knew the possible outcome and prob deserved it for even trying lol

[@princessaltom3072]

@@SuperSlaiyan That is exactly what I told him. But it is under warranty still and his opinion was that it is a game that it should be able to play so if it fails that shows a hardware flaw that he’d rather break during the warranty period rather than 3 years from now.

[@SuperSlaiyan]

@@princessaltom3072 I'm curious, how long did it take to fry? Couple hours or super fast

[@davidkaye8712]

Back in 2000 when I was learning to programme, we had a module discussing software and hardware compatibility and problems, we had to write programs to test hardware/software compatability and we blew a fair few components as a demo of the problem. I can confirm that software is more than capable of destroying hardware.

[@backlogbuddies]

My second year at college we needed to use their server to compile and test our code. My friend wrote code so poorly he took down the server. Turns out parts needed to be replaced. Only reason we knew it was him was because he was the final log and no one else was logged in at the time. After that pointers were banned by my school

[@darranrowe174]

Usually, the software cannot damage hardware statement should have a * next to it. But the people who keep repeating this don't mention this. The idea behind a protected mode operating system is that user mode software don't directly access hardware. So sure, this cuts out direct access to hardware. But there is always the assumption that drivers, firmware and hardware have to be fit for purpose. If there is a flaw in any of these then it is very possible for software to damage hardware in a protected mode environment. When you are not in a protected mode environment then software has direct access to hardware and it is then very easy to take things out.

[@Unobtanium1010]

Freeware, vaporware, adware, malware, ransomware and now destroyware.

[@XSatsuriku]

I mean thats in 2000, we still had to manually put jumpers on HDD's. We've advanced quite a bit :P

[@GottHoldNicetomeet]

Given the driver, which it should, doesn't shield you off possible catastrophic failures.

[@R3VISION3]

Just to add some insight on the Developer side of things when dealing specifically not with Manufacturers but with Driver developers, NVidia in particular have awful communication with game devs. The worst I've seen in this industry. Devs are not only ignored but more often than not laughed at when raising issues with their software. They refuse to believe you, a measly indie game dev, would have somehow found a bug they missed. Reports that potentially contain information on hardware killing bugs go unnoticed or ignored for months so that the driver developers can spend their time giving 1 FPS increase in performance to a popular title. Personally it was a bug with the modulo operator and weird texture sizes in HLSL shader, causing artifacts due to sampler missing data it should have read fine. On AMD the sampler had no issue reading from weird sized textures even non power of two (NPOT) textures work fine, on Nvidia there are artifacts unless the sampled texture has a power of two. It took weeks for the problem to even be acknowledged by the engine developers as not being my fault or their fault, but then the bug report went nowhere as I hit the roadblock of trying to get Nvidia driver developers to give a crap. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the people to blame are on Nvidia's side this time around. If not hardware then driver developers made a mistake. A GPU should never be able to melt itself at the request of a game, no matter how poorly optimized it is.

[@abnormalcreations5432]

@Kevin Ruiz can't blame the game devs, it's impossible to test your game against every piece of hardware your customers are using. This is solely on Nvidia. If a car blows up because of bad design, do you blame the driver or the bad design? These cards should be recalled immediately.

[@DG-america]

@@abnormalcreations5432 This isn't a blanketed hardware issue, this is a GPU/software issue. And your analogy doesnt work. The driver would be the consumer seeing as we do not drive (most of us) old push rod engine vehicles anymore. If this were a GPU hardware ONLY fault, it would happen on more than New World. It would have been wreaking havoc long before now.

[@abnormalcreations5432]

@@DG-america it still doesn't change the fact that in this case a modern car (rtx 3090) couldn't shut itself off when the idiot driver (Amazon game) didn't take their foot off the pedal. Everyone has potential to be an idiot driver, when the car realizes it's being driven by an idiot, it should shut off or give the idiot less performance. Not catch fire.

[@AndrewLauritzen]

​@@abnormalcreations5432 The car analogy is misleading here. User mode applications (read - the game) have neither the control nor the responsibility to ensure that a piece of hardware doesn't do something it can't handle. This is entirely on the combination of the graphics card hardware, firmware and NVIDIA's (kernel mode!) driver. If a web page could brick your PC would you complain that the author of the web page should fix it or is it very clearly a problem with the OS/hardware interaction at some level? Even power "viruses" - i.e. actively antagonistic workloads - should not cause hardware to break. This is entirely on the OS/IHV side of the fence. There's no world in which this has anything to do with the application other than it exposing a problem. For reference, I have worked for all of these sorts of companies (IHV, OSV, etc). There is no one on any side of the fence that disagrees on whose responsibility this kind of thing is. The only time companies claim otherwise is when trying to cover up a screw-up (ex. AMD claiming that power viruses void warrantees and then getting correctly told to shut up and fix their shit.) It's the same here - NVIDIA/OEMs being silent doesn't mean its not their fault. That of course doesn't mean people can't or shouldn't do things to minimize the risk of hitting the issue (as suggested at the tail end of the video!), but that's a completely separate question than where the blame lays for such things. Ultimately the blame doesn't matter to the players, but ultimately NVIDIA needs to respond here, not Amazon.

[@NihilsticFeeling]

@@abnormalcreations5432 wtf kind of cars are you driving that shut themselves off cause the driver sucks at driving? Every car in the history of cars just lets the driver crash...

[@joyl7842]

I have not been a early-adopter since SLI was first released. I spent a fortune on a SLI-rig and then no software supported SLI for ages, even past the point that my top-end cards became outdated. Just not worth it, especially with the insane prices of the latest hardware. Now I built a rig 10 months after the hardware released. I know it's good hardware, it's literally half the price and will still run the latest games on maxed out settings. Maybe not in 4K at 165 FPS, but who cares.

[@kathrynck]

I used to use ARK's menu screen as a torture test for graphics card overclocks. Way more brutal than any of the benching software I had. If an OC could go 5 min. in ARK's menu stable, it would survive hours in something like firestike, etc.

[@B01]

Just stare at 30 giga eggs placed on ground and listen to your graphics card purr lmfao

[@kathrynck]

@@B01 Oh gees, yeah the big bases really made things choppy. But the menu... I think they fixed it at some point, but for about 2 years solid, the menu was running at like 600 fps (well, with a 1080ti, less or more depending on your card). literally scorching your graphics card at maximum output.

[@o0xTHEcoPlayerx0o]

then you find out a guy in a mega tribe who found out the dinosaur cap, raft cap, other stupid things like this. all while playing on a laptop with an intergrated graphics chip, i was using an Inteli3-4030u. 20 fps tops :D good times.

[@B01]

@@kathrynck that's wild hahahah

[@rivermoneyg6277]

@@B01 I bricked my Xbox one X mass breeding gigas like a week ago, fried something for sure as I placed slot cap of eggs in an 10×6 incubation room multiple times over a 2 week period.. could audibly hear my fans powering to max as I walked in an out the egg room it was nuts

[@RandomCorvid]

Amazon: "Games can't kill Graphics cards!" Blizzard: sweats nervously in early SC2

[@raidnoir8691]

My 5750 Died during a Paused screen. good thing it was RMA'd and lasted another 4-5 years on my Bro's PC

[@alexxxvill69]

Blizzard are sweating nervously over their lawsuit.

[@StevenMussels]

SC2 had the same thing, then they added that FPS cap to the menus This aint new, but is a bit more dramatic... SC2 didnt usually show smoke

[@Sc2Cavalry]

I'm pretty sure sc2 is the reason my first gaming laptop died

[@HateGplus]

EVE Online with Walking In Stations, fried a lot of cards, including my GTX 8800

[@WhyYouAskingMe]

Can we all have a moment of silence in memory of all the graphics cards that lost their lives.

[@whyers4782]

Me: *Sees 3090s in jay's video and in comments* Also me: *Don't worry my little 1050ti, i still love you*

[@Ryan-gc3sd]

1050ti? Ew

[@unnesseth8325]

1050ti gang rise up!

[@Skittles49601]

whatever gets you by! i went from an MSI RX 480 4GB OC Armor series to my Gigabyte Radeon RX 5600XT Gaming OC 6GB (tri fan), to my MSI RTX 2060 Super Gaming X Twin Frozr 7 8GB. Small upgrades but its all good as long as im happy. in your case, as long as u are happy :) (neat part is, i upgraded my rx 5600xt to my 2060 super and made 180$ at the same time lol) i donated my RX480 4GB to a neighbor kid and built him a computer to start PC gaming for free just as a little charity thing. he has a single mother and 2 sisters, it was the least i could do to hook him up with some of my spare parts and put it all together for christmas :)

[@rlybruhx]

''Cry- Engine'' has a whole new meaning now 😂

[@PERILEX]

LOL The _Lumberyard Engine_ that produces a Lumberyard chuck-full of chopped up GPUs...

[@TheEdmaster87]

It is now called: "Can it run New World without killing your GPU?"

[@thecryptidkeeper9913]

This whole video feels like poor Jay is teaching health class and telling everyone they need to wear protection. "Kids, I'm telling you, you don't want to risk contracting Crymydia."

[@libertyts]

I couldn't put words to it. You nailed it! That's exactly what this feels like. How many will listen to the PE teacher though? He's just some dumb old dude... Oh to be young and invincible again...

[@jarl-]

guys kids suck so bad just do it god damnit

[@synitarthrax5618]

Heed the warning! STD's are nothing to clap about!

[@thecryptidkeeper9913]

Symptoms of Crymydia include loss of vision, a burning sensation and smoky discharge.

[@omi6816]

I mean i saw the video and saw a guy failing to understand the very things he use to make a living. He could still make a video about taking precautions and not show off the fact that after all this years he still has no idea how a computer works.

[@boostedmedia]

Interesting video! Unfortunately my Strix 3090 died this week playing iRacing with triple 4K monitors. Been running fine for almost a year, then bam. Black screen and system turned off. Fans didn’t go to 100% though. PSU breaker tripped. Now whenever the farthest right power line on the card is plugged in, the circuit breaker in the PSU trips. No smoke or smell. On its way for RMA now 🤞

[@kylethemaddr2607]

Did you test your system with another GPU to verify it's the graphics card and not the PSU? would hate for you to get it back and run straight into the same issue.

[@N0N0111]

There are more games breaking RTX 3000 GPUs in the same way. But New World is one that does it really fast!

[@boostedmedia]

@@kylethemaddr2607 Of course. Tried multiple systems and PSUs to narrow it down. System is back up and running with another 3090 now. Had to go buy one as we can’t afford the downtime while we wait for RMA. 100% certain the card is faulty.

[@hypers3007]

good luck man

[@Saiyentarble]

Get some air flow in that case

[@chosen1one930]

Here's the big fix....don't play that game, no matter cool and fun it is, if a developer is going to act like that why give them money in the first place, just screw them by giving them a dud on sales

[@GstarCurtis]

Seeing how Consumer friendly and caring that EVGA is, I really want to buy more EVGA products, whenever i have to upgrade.

[@BarbecuedPossum]

It's false they must be paying off content creators I've had nothing but issues and extremely bad experiences with their customer service.

[@hanasun96]

@@BarbecuedPossum never had any problems with their rma process, where are you from?

[@fusi0nn]

@@BarbecuedPossum When is the last time you had to deal with EVGA support? 10 years ago? They're the best in the business next to fractal imo. You won't find very many manufacturers willing to send you a replacement while yours is in the mail. Not to mention you don't pay for anything ever.

[@BarbecuedPossum]

@@hanasun96 UK

[@BarbecuedPossum]

@@fusi0nn "Not to mention you don't pay for anything ever." - What apart from £40 postage to Germany and then also to replace £100's in components that got damaged by their shit hardware yep OK....

[@andrewcoodey6441]

I’m in a household where we have 4 1660s (all different versions) and of those, 3 have run New world for over 70 hours each in the last week, sometimes for 13-15 hours in one sitting. So far, other than freezes and crashes, there have been 0 issues running the game that couldn’t be fixed by relogging. Fingers crossed that I didn’t jinx us all

[@IanAlerion]

I'm also running a 1660 at those hours with zero issues. I buy msi though. Seems to be a evga / asus issue?

[@jacobmitchell9227]

Same here 1660ti, no issues that relogging didn’t fix

[@gmoney3862]

3080 ti EVGA here. Played New World now for 86 hours since release not limiting anything on my pc as I just saw this video today. 1440p on high and absolutely no issues. I haven’t overclocked anything on Afterburner, and everything is standard. Hoping I haven’t jinxed myself but just sharing my experiences for others. Also just hit lvl 36 tonight :-)

[@barrypowell6847]

Also using 1660s with 80+ hours played. With sessions being 10-12 hours long and never had an issue.

[@knghtbrd]

Hi Jay, cringing developer here: Let me explain (without getting too technical) why you're both right and wrong here about Amazon being at fault. Software CAN cook hardware. Games should not be able to, though. Should not, but kind of can. There's a chain of trust here, and somewhere along it something's breaking it. The hardware's supposed to have thermal and voltage limits, it's covered in sensors in theoretically all the right places, and it's supposed to throttle or shut down before it can be harmed. Fault: Depends. Manufacturer or Nvidia or both. How close do the hardware and BIOS match Nvidia's spec? The drivers are supposed to implement safeguards. That depends on data from the hardware. The drivers should throttle back before hardware limits kick in. Either the drivers aren't doing it, they're ignoring data from the card saying it's too much, or the card's not sending that data. Fault: Depends, again. Nvidia writes those drivers, so if the problem's on the driver end, it's theirs. If it's hardware doesn't provide necessary data, it's probably the manufacturer's fault unless they're very closely following Nvidia's reference design for everything. Finally you come to software. It usually won't implement safeguards, and the safeguards it can implement are crude and arbitrary. But when you know people's irreplaceable hardware is being cooked to death, you implement those crude safeguards and you warn your users. Amazon hasn't done a good job at this. TL;DR: Don't let Amazon off the hook here, but what they can do is limited. You never mentioned Nvidia themselves as a potential party to this clusterf**k and they're definitely in the running for responsibility here. How responsible each party is will depend on factors we don't know yet.

[@soerenbo]

Agree with almost everything you say on a technical level. But for me you are missing one key aspect of the whole discussion. How does only this one game cause this particular issue? Yes it definetly can be a hardware or driver failure, but how does only this particular game cause such a massive problem other, often even more demanding games, don't? Especially as we now know that it's not just EVGA. It definetly can still be a problem of the hardware, but the way it's triggered has to have some sort of connection to the way the game runs differently from others, and once that connection is found the core problem, no matter who caused it, can potentially be fixed. That's the reason for me why primarily the Amazon studion should investigate this at first. It's obviously not "only" their responsibility or fault, but it's their game who causes this failure, no matter if they produced the core problem. Who is to blame can then be decided afterwards.

[@StickDead]

Very Agree.

[@bluzz4069]

Ye it's incredible the rant on Amazon without calling out Nvidia once...

[@bluzz4069]

@@soerenbo are you sure is this particular game only? It can be or not, I don't know. But hardware should have safety measures.

[@john_john_john]

@@bluzz4069 It seems like it, at least judging by the lack of reports about other games.

[@advozek]

"I guarantee they don't care about you" better said impossible.

[@kermitrooseveltferkelroose9537]

u can buy cards with warrenty ^^ .....

[@Mistrfister]

@@kermitrooseveltferkelroose9537 you realize they send new cards out when your card fails right? Warranties *spelled correctly* don't manufacture extra cards during card shortages. They can't just clone hardware.

[@kermitrooseveltferkelroose9537]

@@Mistrfister lol what :D but they repair it or send a new one when its available

[@Mistrfister]

@@kermitrooseveltferkelroose9537 keyword is when available. You could wait months.

[@luziferstar8622]

1. Amazon: here grab a nice fancy game. 2. Customer: damn it bricked my graphics card. 3. Amazon: Dang that's a shame, here buy a new one in our online store. 4. profit

[@Rigbaby33]

That's my thoughts lol

[@d3ltaking419]

Jeff Bezos be like hey Jensen how about I supply a game that kills GPUs and this way you can sell more hehehe 😂

[@nosumone]

I doubt any company needs help selling gpu's at this point in time .

[@mooselopez6755]

New and improved 1070 TIE ampere edition

[@mirandahw]

If this was a real scheme it would make logical sense, Leather Jacket Man sells more cards and Beff Jezos the Not-Astronaut gets Amazon's cut from selling the card

[@d3ltaking419]

@@mooselopez6755 🤣

[@d3ltaking419]

@@mirandahw yea two very rich guys going after some more cash 💰

[@JediRyan]

Me with a 2080ti: "I'm not touching that game with a 10 foot poll" Me seeing the poor guys card smoking: "I'm not touching that game with a 20 foot poll"

[@cybervoid8442]

lmao I own a 2070 super and even I am staying away from that game

[@LegionOfEclaires]

Friend: Hey come play New Words with us! Me: Nervously stares at $3000-preCovid-market-price rig.

[@CopyrightNoG]

I would like to point out out the fact that, to my knowledge, no Radeon cards, including my own, have reported this issue.

[@pandemicneetbux2110]

This. Imagine five years of memes if any AMD GPU ever caught fire. It's literally been non-fucking stop with Ampere. From the driver problems to POZ'dCAPs to this to just the general quality and performance vs price. Weren't they trying to make reference models with plastic backplates and not even bothering to light up the nVidia logo too? This isn't just Amazon's fault but the fault of nVidia cutting all the corners it could to maximize profit, like many of these other companies like Gigabyte's exploding PSUs. If nVidia wants to keep hiking prices they need to fix their shit.

[@breakbend7707]

@@pandemicneetbux2110 how quickly issues like this get swept under the rug, the deflection in this chat is at best, nauseating.

[@robobmc6936]

Amazon is about to start making graphics cards and they will be the only cards you can safely play new world on

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

would be the end of amazon. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@safetyzone2962]

Sounds more like something that APPLE would do, not Amazon.

[@666thsense]

if amazon found out what was causing this, their PR department would NEVER “own up to it” or allow accountability. just like when they denied it the first time and then simultaneously pushed a patch through and most bricking stopped. they’re in the business of being infallible.

[@UnresolvedExternal]

You have no idea about GPUs or PC hardware. Too many retards on the internet who speak from a position of ignorance

[@RoswellCrash]

@@UnresolvedExternal fantastically said. Like they just said not Amazon’s fault it’s both hardware and a software fault but the GPU’s themselves shouldn’t allow themselves to get to this point.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

"Owning up to it" is admitting culpability, and that opens up payouts. They will fight tooth and nail to never admit fault because if they do, they'll have to pay for what they've helped to brick. It's the reason why you see companies settling out of court, and they never have to admit that they were in the wrong.

[@finck9226]

@@UnresolvedExternal exactly just like you have no idea how the real world works. Amazon isn't really squeaky clean when it comes to transparency

[@UnresolvedExternal]

@@leadpaintchips9461 They CAN'T brick anything. That's not how OS's work. If the cards were bricked, it was the fault of the people who made the cards, not Amazon. PERIOD. There is no room for discussion on that matter. If your card breaks, it was made faulty and that's why. You should be able to run your cards at 100% usage for thousands of hours without taking a break and have no problem.

[@lander1591]

Reminds me of when Eve Online released Captains Quarters along with a Nvidia Driver "optimised" for it... It basically overclocked the GPU and took the safetys off. So you had brilliant video performance... right up to the point the GPU chip got so hot it fell off the laptop's motherboard.

[@Solkre82]

Ahh EVE. The game that had a patch delete boot.ini and kept a lot of player's windows from booting.

[@justanotherpxrson]

@@Solkre82 lol how does that even happen?

[@kamil8502]

@@justanotherpxrson they were probably trying to modify it to set some parameters that potentially improve performance if I had to guess

[@RuruFIN]

I smell BS here, lead-free solder has about 217C melting point so I highly doubt that.

[@MCRoadk1ll]

@@kamil8502 Improve the game by not beeing able to play it anymore ")

[@blackraen]

Can confirm, something is weird with New World. I've got a Gigabyte Waterforce 6900XT and a good custom loop setup. The highest I've seen the max-junction value hit was 75'c up until New World. For some reason, New World pushes it to 80'c. I have to imagine my card would probably be melting under air.

[@dwhit6529]

Be careful with it because 6900xt were the other card majorly affected by this game early on. It isn't always the temps getting it it is the voltage and even under water that voltage can take a card out.

[@blackraen]

@@dwhit6529 Yeah, the temps were just a symptom, as New World is definitely triggering higher than normal power draw. The worst part is that it isn't just the voltage but the overall amperage draw that's doing it, so just limiting voltage won't do it, need to set a power limit. Putting a 90% cap on mine brought the temp down by 5'c, but I'll probably still hold off on playing. Seeing the game with a 90% limiter cause my card to steady-state at what other games hit with an overclock load still makes me nervous. Worst part with the 6900XTs is that if you have an 'Ultimate' card with the Navi 21 XTXH chip, the VRM is even more likely to overdraw.

[@jaysail8783]

I have a sapphire se and mine is fine it’s hit 95ish junction under 100 percent load which is normal , exodus , cyberpunk all have done the same nothing odd from my experience

[@dwhit6529]

@@jaysail8783 Some people weren't really effected by it others are. Strange stuff but it is certainly the game not the hardware at this point. Too many cards from too many different brands and generations.

[@dwhit6529]

@@jaysail8783 I would just limit the power draw for sure. I also wonder if a lot of people had overclocks running and that helped take them out because the game does spike power draw pretty significantly.

[@Luckysquirrel1256]

Was bummed last year when I couldn't upgrade my 1080 to a 3080, but I guess this is one small bonus. Funny enough the game runs perfectly fine for me on a 1080 at 1440p, on high.

[@biznisman7049]

Yes mine to at 1070 on high, it drops at mid 44 in city and 80 outside

[@biznisman7049]

I will not upgrade to 3000 series at leas until 2025

[@tron.d98200]

I'm in the same boat, was hoping to upgrade and to a 3080 for my main PC, and put my 1080 on a water block for my server. Can't wait for this to be over.

[@sean8102]

For better or worse (so far better) I just got a RTX 3080. I pulled the trigger because I was on EVGAS waiting list program since October 2020 and got the email saying I had 20 hours to buy it. Got the FTW3 Ultra 3080 card. I upgraded from a 1080. I haven't played new world though, just not interested. I've run furmark and MSI Kombustor stress test over night with no issue. Also I trust EVGA's customer service.

[@SeVeN-yd2tq]

Me and my 2060 Ventus will stay together

[@abevanniekerk]

I can confirm that EVGA's RMA procedure is one of the main reasons for me sticking with their cards.

[@Hazard4K]

yep, had to RMA a 3090.. and not because new world... sucked, but easy process.

[@bluex610]

Yeah had a lot of success with them in the pasy

[@NihilsticFeeling]

Same.. my first evga card was the 3090, it got toasted by a molex cable that was wired different than all the other molex cables (dont understand it, but its what happened). Evga took it back, and sent me a new a in box card. Also, it was from a prebuilt system. They didnt hassel me, i simply sent them a an rma request saying my card was showing the red leds of death and they replaced it no more questions asked. So yeah i'll stick with evga cards from now on.

[@Cullenprime]

EVGA screwed me over with a PSU that I had from them. It sparked and caught fire and started smoking. I still had it under warranty and tried to get it replaced. They said they couldn't do it because of smoke damage that they somehow think I caused. Their pos PSU exploding caused the smoke damage but I'm to blame for it?

[@brutalhonesty07]

It’s the brand I’m considering for my first desktop build. Same reasoning.

[@70ixlr86]

The dyno analogy, is so right to the point. TY Jay.

[@cloakedgt]

it was alright but you dont put a "non real amount of load" on an engine to purposely break it and find weak points, individual parts are tested for that.... if an engine runs and serves its purpose reliably given any type of engine its fine, thats where the line is drawn, not sure why people always try to compare PCs to car related subjects, although it can share small aspects, its the same with anything but they are still both not the same thing, like at all

[@r3d1dmusic19]

Haven't had the black screen issue, but have definitely noticed that this game starts to glitch out more and more the longer you play.

[@edwardnoyola2860]

Yeah I noticed this yesterday while playing. The characters armor textures started to act up and not loading properly? Any other issues you’ve noticed?

[@r3d1dmusic19]

@@edwardnoyola2860 The game in general just gets super poor. World textures take longer to load in, abilities aren't going off until 2 sec after i used it. bunch of random stuff that gets worse and worse the longer i play

[@dreadkill83]

I have found the same problem the longer I play the more frequent and worse this stuff gets ( black screen , lock ups/freezes) 1660ti for anyone wondering

[@yangpaan453]

cause amazon has no experience designing mmos, this is what happens when a massive company thinks they can just throw money at a project and make it work. new world is just a half assed "mmo" marketed towards normies who play first person shooters, even the combat is basically just an fps battle royale type

[@txkingg]

I’m not a game developer, but I am a software engineer and the way to explained the 1+1 thing was awesome and true 🤣😂

[@CaptainJackedPickle]

using sheets of paper to build a castle instead of bricks

[@omi6816]

I mean, computers at the lowest level do work in unit shifts, so even on that he was wrong. If you manage to break a complex operation into 1 increments, that's probably the most efficiente a computer will be able to handle...

[@SebSND]

@@omi6816 not for GPU Rendering. It is extremely inefficient to noz batch drawcalls or render events as every drawcall needs tons of time to render out. That's why the gpu can batch stuff together.

[@omi6816]

@@SebSND that's true for gpus. But he was making an example of the addition of 2 numbers, in which case to make it efficiently on a gpu you'll just assign a small part of the operation to a stream processor/cuda core/whatever name gave the gpu maker and make it in parallel. But yes even on that front, All the engines i've seen usually batch draw calls and i suspect that's also at driver level, heck nowdays compilers fix most of programmers mess ups.

[@SebSND]

@@omi6816 unfortunately not 😅 We're still working on making stuff render as quickly as possible by batching stuff either manually or by having the gpu dynamically batching everything. It's not that easy unfortunately and I simply suspect Amazon cheaper out on good pipeline engineers to make sure their rendering is as efficient as possible.

[@AdmLancel]

I'd love to build an (as much as possible) EVGA build just to recognize them for their efforts. Maybe with a Fractal Torrent as a case to also recognize their efforts for customer service. It's a little gesture, but I feel like recognizing solid customer service is worth doing.

[@SneefyQuaffles]

Dont buy a company’s products for their “efforts” its a waste of time. ONLY buy their product if it’s good enough by itself to win you over. Cyberpunk is a good example of this, judge the product not the company

[@iankovac1878]

I would love an EVGA X570S non dark because I am broke.

[@Nareimooncatt]

@@SneefyQuaffles all companies are going to turn out an occasional problematic design. That's a given, even with the best companies. How they handle those mistakes speaks volumes to their overall quality. Compare NXT's fire case to Fractal's. The way NXT tried to brush it off gave me little faith in how much they actually care about the product. The way Fractal handled their similar problem showed they are serious about quality, which means they are likely going to put that same focus on the design and manufacture of everything they make.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

Officially hit 1 Year in EVGA Queue.....you were saying?

[@Snuffy7230]

@@I_SuperHiro_I I entered the EVGA queue on 10/6/2020. I FINALLY got the notification to purchase an RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA on 9/30/2021.

[@Tech875O]

Is this still an issue today? I have googled it, and checked a few sites, including Reddit, and most people are blaming the GPU manufacturers. That doesn't add up to me though, as if that were the case, then other games would be causing the issue as well. Why is it seemingly only happening in New World!?

[@MMTND]

Jayz actually your wrong! Kind of! Electronics engineer with 10+ yrs on hardware and firmware developement here. No game SHOULD be able to burn your gpu(with no over clock). No game can directly control gpu hardware. Mostly its game instruction, game engine, directx, driver, firmware then gpu hardware. Hardware damage should be prevented in hardware level. The other levels specialy firmware can cover hardware design weakness to some extent. Believe me! game engine developers do all kind of nasty mistakes and trial and error but do not break GPUs left and right!

[@jonathandinunzio8964]

I had an EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming. After changing my graphics settings from “very high” down to “high”, I had about 5 minutes of play and my whole computer powered down. The power supply relay clicked off immediately if I tried to power my pc back on, unless I removed the third 8pin power connector on my gpu. With my DMM, I traced it back to a dead short on the power rail immediately off the third 8pin power connector. So I guess not only did the OCP not work. The fuse that is on that pad also failed to trip. I had my card on a water block and never saw temps get out of hand.

[@ramair325]

It's a faulty card design / or a product defect. it has nothing to do with the game. Hell this sort of thing is the whole reason gpu's started using power limits. How can people blame software for a hardware failure?

[@jonathandinunzio8964]

@@ramair325 I mean, I kinda feel like it’s on both the game devs and the board designers. Like these boards shouldn’t be bricking. They should just be crashing due to OCP, but if the game was developed and tested properly, the board should never have an OCP flag in the first place. This seems to be a perfect storm from my perspective

[@saleseng]

Reminds me of old Star Trek episodes with a run away piece of hardware that Kirk feeds with an unsolvable equation that makes it self destruct🤣

[@Gortok1]

...I've always told you the truth...

[@hammer9856]

Listen carefully Norman, I'm lying....

[@cerescop]

Nomad, maybe

[@ShruteshKumar]

I had the black screen once; definitely due to power draw, because it was when my framerate was unlocked and the 3080 was consistently drawing 280-300 watt of power for hours. Now I capped it to 60 FPS and it's drawing only 110-130 watt of power and I haven't had any issues in over 70+ hours of gameplay.

[@coolkidex]

Imagine spending like two grand on a GPU just to cap your crud game to 60 fps.

[@Kenkichi24]

@@coolkidex I was going to say the same thing 🤣

[@connorking5304]

@@coolkidex It’s better than frying your gpu you got for *two grand*

[@unsolveddiamond6042]

@@connorking5304 then you shouldn’t buy a 1000$ gpu in the first place.

[@ShruteshKumar]

@@coolkidex I don't need 200+ fps to enjoy a game. I play most games at 60 fps @ 3440x1440, max settings. The 3080 is excellent for that.

[@N0N0111]

These companies (GPU vendors) have more reports in, that in the last year more games have been killing the RTX 3000 cards. But they all sit silent and don't tell the public about it. With the shortage in the tech industry they just can't recall and replace.

[@MegaVinny73]

the power draw on them seems to be insane compared to previous series. I also notice the power and heat is so inconsistent, no matter what title. they're just all over the place. crap design and architecture??

[@MegaVinny73]

@Random Hobby 15% what? power draw, utilisation or 15% the fps of an NVidia card? ;-) And just to say, my rig is AMD CPU, 5900X, but their vid cards are lacking, so went NVidia. NVidia are far from perfect. And everything is waaaaaay too expensive right now.

[@erraldstyler]

@Random Hobby full team red and proud of it

[@shortshins]

It's crazy to me that people are still playing this game at all until its fixed .

[@Mannskas]

Change my mind: Amazon is doing this so that more GPUs are being bought and amazon earns more profit because they are already over priced

[@soona6734]

Who on this planet buys overpriced GPU's on Amazon?.....Find a real PC online shop.

[@fhytyryjy]

I don't want to change your mind. The planet is a lot more colourful with people like you on it

[@leeonardodienfield402]

@@soona6734 uhhh they're overpriced everywhere. you living under a rock?

[@Mannskas]

@@soona6734 not when german amazon had cheaper prices then local shops, now yea its all the same.

[@BockworschtSoldier]

Sounds plausible.^^

[@erickcoutsii9499]

The problem is, a game doesn't dictate what a GPU does. The hardware and drivers have the last say in what the GPU is allowed and not allowed to do. If you count that Windows is adding in certain new features for the GPU memory that has been a little buggy lately, I'm not 100% sure that New World is THE issue so much as a means to discovering the issue. With that said, by running a proper pre-compiler optimization pass followed by a debug, this game could potentially have been optimized much better than it has been. Even an outdated engine could be optimized to run smoothly if the compiler is up-to-date.

[@Wylie288]

This. Software cannot cause hardware faults. Only expose them.

[@zackmatey1793]

I wasn't planning to play New World with my 3090 since the very first issues with this game started showing up in the beta, but I'm certainly not going to now. Thanks for your coverage on this Jay.

[@AvgDan]

I wouldn't either, NVIDIA 30 series cards are apparently not smart enough to not self-destruct.

[@mirage8753]

if your card is faulty you'll notice it later anyway coz its the card issue first of all. and evga already confirmed it

[@iCore7Gaming]

Yeah 3080 and 3090s are risky, but 3070ti and 3070s i haven't heard of any issues yet.

[@zackmatey1793]

@@mirage8753 True, but for a given value of "faulty." If it works in all other use cases, but fails on New World, it might nominally be "faulty," but continuing to use it for other applications might be fine. Luckily my card (TUF 3090 OC) isn't one I've heard mentioned yet, so it might be fine.

[@JohnDoeC78]

Go play WoW or Elder Scrolls Online. We'll worth both titles

[@jclau77]

Was JUST about to press the play button with my friends but then I saw this video Sorry guys, as much as I love playing with y’all, I love my gpu more GPUs before bros

[@rosen9425]

Since when have your friends done anything worth >$2000 for you 😂

[@Kevin-jv7mz]

Thanks Clorox Bleach! You're always there for me when things are tough.

[@ramair325]

Whats the point of having a 2000$ gpu that you can't play a game on LOL?

[@mummeliini123]

@@ramair325 Exactly, you can't play anything on it if you fry it

[@bits3608]

Bros play games together, Real bros save eachother's gpus from getting destroyed.

[@SpartanDusk]

I love how Jay lights a fire up a company’s ass when their product blows up our product. Truly a man of the people.

[@Capellix0001]

Andthen you watch his last video where he sold his soul to Samsung to showcase a shitty monitor but present it like it was his nextborn child

[@SpartanDusk]

@@Capellix0001 In terms of monitors, it literally is the best one for gaming, what are you on about? How is it a bad one?

[@TerraWare]

@@SpartanDusk The HDR is broken on it I believe. Hardware Unboxed have a video addressing it after getting many complaints from users and they've been in contact with Samsung and they haven't been fixing it yet. Something along those lines. It is well known though so I don't see how Jay or someone in his team wouldn't have known about this but maybe they didn't. Still it doesn't look good since the issue hasnt been resolved yet.

[@SpartanDusk]

@@TerraWare wasn’t that the first iteration tho? Like literally months ago vs the video he literally made 2 days ago? Didn’t they update the firmware on the newer ones not to suck? I know what you’re talking about but I also know they said it was fixed. Jay even demoed the HDR capabilities, same with LTT. Not unless the HDR is still an issue which 2 parties I’ve seen in videos that are less than a month old showed they work fine, I’m having doubts with what you’re saying

[@Shyvorix]

@@TerraWare IIRC someone confirmed it's an issue between the handshaking between the monitor's firmware and Nvidia cards themselves and might need a fix from both sides, and anyone with experienced software knowledge will tell you that's a pain in the ass to do. I say it'll need a few months to half a year+ minimum for it to be resolved. It's not super well known though of an issue since HDR is seen as a joke on Windows.

[@ZedOptimisation]

Asus Strix 1080ti owner here. No issues, overclocked to 2GHz, fan curve adjusted to suit. Game is played uncapped, noticed temps reached 80+ degrees. I removed my tempered glass side panel to allow more air flow, temps dropped to 68-73 degrees under full load. Still haven't encountered any black screens or crashes.

[@gamertrem1884]

So, seeing that my comment got posted by Jay, a bit of a follow up. I've since dropped down to 1080p. The heat being put off by the card was intense even at 1440p. Frame cap still wont work correctly. I don't have any screen grabs of it, but I'm also not going to risk it by trying it again.

[@AlphaMachina]

So, cap the frame rate from Nvidia Control Panel? Manage 3D Settings > Program Settings > Browse to the game executable > Max Frame Rate (On) > Set to 60 FPS

[@gamertrem1884]

@@AlphaMachina the reason why I didn’t go over 100fps is because I had already limited it. In game limiter is definitely useless

[@mirage8753]

better sell your card or it might explode. gaming is too dangerous, you know

[@DrakeDaraitis]

My card also was quite hot, but I’m also on a 1080 TI. Still hotter than normal for me though.

[@xil3ntkha0s]

That’s me right now .. except replace it with CP2077 lol

[@Zeldalovesme]

I've had absolutely zero issues playing New World with my 2080 Super. Overclocked and all. Running high settings on 2440x1440p, no lag/stutters/glitches at all.

[@RunRanJogSprint]

Same, I’m running with a 2080 ti aorus xtreme and have had 0 issues and that card is even known for its beefy size and heat, also not to mention I’m already at 80 hours played lol

[@Stuntaddicted]

Same here, have played over 50 hours with no issue, highest settings 1440p and a 2080 super

[@PetesCreativeRecycling]

I have a 2080 Super and every 4-6 hours or so it will black screen, max fan, jump almost 20c (~67c->86c), for about 1-2 seconds, then all come back as if nothing happened. Seems more likely to happen near Fishermans Bend. My FPS is locked at 60, 2k but v-sync off. PNY XLR8 RTX 2080 Super Triple OC Rev.2 Asus TUF x570 + Wifi AMD 3900x w/ Stock cooler (I'm not overclocking it) 32gb G.Skill TridentZ Neo 2x Gen 3 2TB NMVE + Passive Heatsinks 1x Gen 4 2TB Sabrent Rocket + Active Heatsink EVGA 850w Supernova Thermaltake M20 Full Tower (lol I know it's a hot case, but I take the sides off when gaming) 6 120mm case fans, 5 intake/1exhaust

[@RunRanJogSprint]

@@PetesCreativeRecycling yeah not sure, I play at 2440x1440 on max settings but with capped fps, gpu never really goes over 74c But does help to set a custom fan curve. Try to keep fans around 80% when playing new world

[@Knelson123]

My friends 2080 ti crashed.

[@robertpearson8546]

A basic rule of Software Engineering - to improve performance, use a better algorithm.

[@christianschafer806]

So there still is a reason why it was called Cry engine, and it still sends it's greetings from the past

[@Hypershell]

"It doesn't explode!" -Games that are not made by Amazon.

[@ZepG]

Amazon wants you to buy a new card, so it releases a game that blows up cards lol.

[@DrSmugface]

@@ZepG that would imply that you can buy GPU on Amazon ..but you can't ..on the other hand most GPU just run fine on New World

[@ZepG]

@@DrSmugface I never fact checked that comment lol.

[@Sako0944]

I have a 3080 FE that I even repadded and have mid to low 80 VRM temps when mining or playing any demanding game. I've had New world just Black screen / crash and lock up my system to hard reboot like 3 times so far. Going to wait to play it more before something bad happens to my card...

[@DenverStarkey]

if i had one of these (gigabyte) cards i'd thermal pad the shit out of the back plate to see if it transfers heat off the soldier joints. and hope that helps

[@barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188]

@@DenverStarkey it does. I repadded my 3080 aorus xtreme. It got so bad to the point my vram temps were hitting 110c on stock for anything I do. Anyways adding pads to the back plate seems to help a bit. I can feel the backplate heating up quite good. Better than the heat staying on the pcb.

[@master_ace]

@@DenverStarkey my Gigabyte 3080 eagle OC had no thermal pads on the back and ones that were at the front were shit and leaked oil. It's memory would hit 112C when mining (whole the core would be at just 55C). Replaced all thermal pads (and thermal paste) and added 3mm thick ones to the back and boom - 40C less under same exact conditions. Relaxed the fans a bit and now the memory doesn't go above 86C when mining and is even smaller when gaming.

[@bryangodfrey6397]

@@master_ace It just sucks it voids your warranty doing that....

[@RussianJan1tor]

@@bryangodfrey6397 evga does allow it!, even a waterblock.

[@thatone774]

imagine haging in queue at like 1000th place, and then ur card catches fire, gg amazon

[@HiPnautique]

Imagine it happens as your queue finishes 🤣

[@thatone774]

@@HiPnautique dumb ways to die, sooo many dumb ways to die

[@W_InvestiGator-0001]

Humans: Covid19. PC's: New World.

[@edwardquiroz743]

Yes, Sent a 3090 to Gigabyte, they sent it back after like a month saying it dying in NW was user damage and the user broke the PCB, also part og the backplay bent at the end of the carrd, not where the PCB is, and they marked that spot as the pcb damage, declined repair and labeled the card damaged. Gigabyte has lost three long time buyers for their hardware from this house haha.

[@mattkissell8841]

Well dont break your card. You broke the card. thats not a warrantable thing in any business.

[@CuevadelRaton]

I own a RTX 3070 XC3, im also a VR developer as a context. I notice that my card and a lot more cards have "coil whine", im not gonna explain it cause you have before. New cards draw too much power, but the issue comes from unlimited FPS in some areas as menus, that isn't capped at 60fps or less, rendering 600fps+ amplifiying the noise quite a bit and stressing the components and generating too much electromagnetic fields that can cause a damage to your components, this is probably why the cards gone "black screen" in some instances over corrupted data. When i was a student of electronics i designed a lot of circuits with microchips, and noticed that without many many many filters of noise because i was sending too much data over the circuit, even a ceiling fan can cause interference with my data, changing values. Of course i agree, the software can cause a damage to the hardware, only if the hardware has a failure in it. You can do stuff to overcome this as a software developer and amazon should implement a solution, but in last instance is fault of the manufacturer not doing a good design, obviously this is something that Nvidia themselfves should caught on their chip/board design. As a mesure of prevention i undervolt my card, to limit the power it can draw, minimizing the coil whine.

[@williameldridge9382]

Well, I've been around these cards quite a bit and don't hear even the slightest bit of coil whine. Not saying it can't and doesn't happen, just saying it isn't with the design or the function of the cards as a whole. Same reason a a car can randomly have an engine issue even though everything was installed properly, manufactured properly, and stress tested properly.

[@Dc5Juni0r]

Mine did this 30 minutes in on opening day, screens shut off and fans ramped up. Reset and it came back online luckily. I undervolted my 3090 and then capped the fps and its been fine since so far but I think it could just be a ticking time bomb also.

[@lordyhgm9266]

Damage will definitely have been done, but if you’re lucky it doesn’t affect anything or won’t cause a future failure. If you’re confident, take the cover off and just check nothing looks melted or anything and you should good

[@shannonkeen4289]

this exact situation happened with my Gigabyte 3090 as well...but i was able to just restart and it never happened again. im loving the game. but now im afraid to load it again.

[@csunstudent148]

@@Psyopcyclops For real. You know how much effort it takes to get a GPU these days? Not to mention getting one at MSRP? I'll die before I put my EVGA 3080 at the mercy of this game lol. And Amazon is pathetic for continuing to allow this game to kill GPUs when they're currently the leading enablers of scalpers in this shortage.

[@Dc5Juni0r]

@@Psyopcyclops Im sitting on a strix 3080 for a backup haha. I got lucky finding one from a local guy that got a strix 3090 and wanted to dump it off for retail+tax.

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@csunstudent148 games can't kill gpus lol if your gpu dies it's because it's a piece of shit that doesn't throttle itself properly. I bet lots of cost cutting has gone on in the shortage.

[@Ant_105]

the fact that Amazon of all companies has fanboys says a lot about the human state

[@starrynightglass7253]

Just finished watching this video. I appreciate the PSA. I played for a out 30 min with no issues however after seeing your first tweet about the potential problems have shelved the game until it's safe. I for one like the fact that you have integrity and will call out anyone or any company that is in the wrong (even a massive company like Amazon). That is a trait that unfortunately has been on the decline in society.

[@JohnDoe-rh9bq]

No one should be scared to call out a company like Amazon.

[@hypeenotic]

you can refund your purchase through steam. I did, at 119 minutes. I know I will enjoy the game, but they need to fix their stuff first.

[@puregameplay7916]

or you could NOT play the game and say fuck jeff bezos and wait for ashes of creation or one of the other new MMO's coming out. Fuck amazon.

[@Wylie288]

Its physically impossible for Amazon to be the problem. This is a card manufacturer problem.

[@firalia]

"New World" in which all GPUs have blown up and everyone has to go outside

[@eclipsez0r]

I hate it

[@Saint-JGJK]

Then you realize you're in lock down and can't even go outside.

[@Anabriella]

It's so bizarre getting this notification tonight when I'd been panicking about my 2060 running at 100% and the fan turboing playing this game today. I was literally watching one of your videos earlier to improve my gpu performance. I've also noticed that their fps cap doesn't work!

[@ELBoomerTV]

They are using our gpus to mine

[@LucasDaRonco]

It does work. I started using it two days ago and my fps stay stuck in 62

[@TheHighborn]

@@ELBoomerTV lmao. Any good firewall would catch it

[@Lettuce1]

@@TheHighborn windows defender would likely catch it. although it is not out of the realm of possibilities

[@angeltheboss9951]

Same i have a 3060 ultra i have it capped but goes to 80 and 100 fps on new world

[@IAmMrJonny]

So the people who are bricking their GPU, are the same people running max settings ultra Giga 4k HD..... hmmmmm

[@justinwhite2725]

Yup. Here's me with my lowly 1030ti with no problems.

[@Cernunn0s90]

Software should never kill a GPU. The GPUs are faulty and badly engineered. Limitations should be in place so that software should never be able to expose the hardware to dangerous loads. My BIOS-modded, overclocked 2080Ti with 126% power limit has been running with zero problems so far.

[@jackykoning]

I remember seeing 3dMark hit 152% power limit for a split second when the slider was at 103% on my 2080S card. Its not limited to anything. It will only pull back after it hits the limit.

[@jamesjx]

I'm getting 150+ watts on a 1660 Super when changing graphics settings...something is definitely wrong. It's like it's stressing itself out trying to redraw everything.

[@BoriTheKing]

This is Amazon’s way to get into the graphic cards world

[@donsorenoelchapogringo1182]

Bezos has some villainous business strategies

[@cjcrawford8297]

My EVGA 3080 blew up last Tuesday. Launched the game, created my character and on the first cut scene the game froze. I alt F-4'd out and relaunched the game. As soon as the game launched my PC turned off and wouldn't start back up. I'm 100% with you on saying this is a game dev + hardware dev issue and they need to work together. Sucks that cards are so hard to come by right now because it makes things a lot more difficult for companies.

[@electrified0]

Your video card blew up and your first thought is "those poor companies?"

[@slasheztech5390]

I hope you get a replacement try RMA it or something so you don't have to spend any money

[@ragtop63]

Amazon Exec 1: "Hmm, people are actually buying GPUs on the marketplace at scalper prices. Should we do something about that?" Amazon Exec 2: "We make a cut from each one of those marketplace sales. Just pretend you never saw the scalping." Jeff: "I have a better idea, let's make a game that can potentially brick those GPUs, forcing buyers to come back to the marketplace and buy more GPUs at those scalper prices. We'll get paid twice, thrice, etc. from the same customers." Amazon Execs: "That's why you're the boss! You heard the man, begin Operation Catching Fire 2.0!"

[@HugoLamarche]

Gotta say it, I’m so glad you are doing a 30 days spooky October! I loved the December last year, it put me in Christmas vibe ;) love you guys !

[@pandemicneetbux2110]

I can't wait for this thing going in the GN Halloween build with a Gigabyte GPU tbh

[@ReclusiveEagle]

For people who don't understand the problem. Basically, imagine if the only iPhone you could first of all find, second of all afford, was an iPhone 5. In 2021. That is the state of GPU prices. Graphics cards from 2012 cost as much as what the GTX1660 launched at full price.

[@JacobRosenegger]

At this point I would much rather buy a used 3090 that's been mined on for months than to buy a card that's run New World.

[@Multimeter1]

Selling Asus, MSi and EVGA founders if interested. Not mined on and only for gamers. I have my reasons against miners

[@madsthysterup-hansen9340]

Thanks to you Jay for letting people know that this stuff is happening. Reading all the stories about GPU's dying, its insane that i sit here and run the game hours on end with a 1050ti though ran on medium. But DAMN!!!

[@mirage8753]

hes just story teller who get money from it. nvidia had problem with 3080 was released, and now we can see that those cards have even more problems. you have nothing to worry about with 1050ti

[@moose17m84]

@@mirage8753 he isn’t just a story teller trying to get money…. He is just giving people a warning so it doesn’t happen to anyone else

[@memnarch129]

Its sounding like Power Delivery just isnt designed well enough to handle 400+ watt cards. Which is what Nvidia AND AMD is expecting everyone to accept with their next series of cards.

[@DrakeDaraitis]

I’m playing on very high on a 1080 TI and seems I’m safe also. Left it open for hours waiting in queue.

[@JohnQuilyQuinlan]

@@DrakeDaraitis I’ve the same card but it’s running hot af, I have thermal light sensors and all three light up red, never seen that before, got a bit worried and put the game on medium looks good and runs cooler, wafts your experience? How’s your temps

[@MoldySpore]

You know, I almost bought New World the other day. Kinda glad I didn't. I have a 3090 and I've already had to RMA it once. I don't really feel like doing it again. Thanks for the PSA, Jay!

[@SoulMist17]

Brand??

[@Raymansan]

That’s just sad tho. Having a too powerfull card for a game.

[@sonof2tards]

Game is the same two quests over and over anyway.

[@MoldySpore]

@@SoulMist17 EVGA FTW3 Ultra

[@SoulMist17]

@@MoldySpore thanks, evga isn’t having much luck at the moment

[@AcidJurassic]

imagine buying a $40 game to destroy a $2000 graphics card

[@q1337]

Bought black ops 2 for the ps3 on release. The cheap coating the used on the blu ray fried the laser. So incompetence is very common

[@scottbirkinshaw2009]

Jay, the minute you said there may be a problem with that game, I blacklisted it and any game that Amazon may produce until GPUs are raining from the sky.

[@gastorrd]

Same dude

[@mughug9616]

XFX RX 5700 XT here. New World must have one of the most power-hungry main menus and queue screens I have ever seen and monitored. Testing many recent games and NW is the worse offender. The normal max power draw should be around 230W. NW's menu/queue screen is pulling nearly 90% of the card's rated max power draw rating. Sitting in the server queues (which can be for hours) and the card is working as hard, if not harder than in the game.

[@WAITxDONTxSHOOT]

Same card yeah it’s a work out kinda worrisome

[@ronhaworth5808]

I think I'll spare my new RX6700XT the torture and play something else.

[@bernds6587]

using a tool like Afterburner to save a massively downclock setting to a profile and enable it while sitting in the queue?

[@ronhaworth5808]

@@bernds6587 I already use Afterburner to override AMD's fan tuning because whatever you set in the AMD Adrenaline gets forgotten in a few hours and the fans go back to auto. I'm a believer that wide temperature swings aren't good for video cards and I prefer that they stay at a constant temp under load so I set a manual profile in Afterburner to do that. I not only play games but run Einstein@Home and I'm able to get the GPU temps to stay between 48C to 54C with very little noise from the card. It also helps that my XFX Merc319 card has an excellent cooler on it.

[@bernds6587]

@@ronhaworth5808 that is indeed a quite interesting concept. But my GPU is at 53°C idling, and I do not want it to get too stressed in its advanced age, especially during the current GPU prices. So on stressful tasks the fans might go higher than they should be, but the temps at least stay in an acceptable range.

[@GraphicJ]

Yep, still having constant freezes every 10 minutes or so and black crashes once in a while. Amazon is crap at coding. edit: BTW all on Low Settings and I Cap it at 30 frames and still freezes. GTX980 on a i7 cpu and 16GB ram/ SSD Drive

[@braydenrevell]

how to save a 3090: as soon as u hear VRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMM unplug pc and say a prayer

[@mysticdre321]

Up to 3.5M... Good for you Jay.

[@JonDoe..]

If Amazon's gaming department is anything like their online retail department then I'm sure they'll get right on to investigating the problem, in a couple of years.

[@omi6816]

Amazon has nothing to do. This guy doesn't understand how computers work.

[@tristanreymendoza2402]

@@omi6816 okay whatever you say, mr. new world developer

[@DFX2KX]

@@omi6816 Amazon is the publisher for New world, so yes, they're on the hook at least partially. They're also the owners of Lumberyard, the engine New World uses. The devs are also on the hook for this mess. And lastly, it's on graphics cards for not having hardware protections against this.

[@omi6816]

@@tristanreymendoza2402 look at how techtubers with brains covered it originally, we have to check the kind of follow up they'll do. I'm not a new world developer but is frustrating to see a guy with 3.5 million subscribers spill this kind of bs, because some people is going to believe him and he clearly has no idea of how an OS works and how a computer communicates with peripherals. And yes i've been in several parts of the development loop of a ton of products and can tell you, we are sometimes asked to build guards around flaws either at firmware or at driver level, because we can not say "o hey, remember that perfectly standard way of writting software you used? you can not do it because we messed up at some point"

[@omi6816]

@@DFX2KX NO, is people suddenly more stupid or what?! Yes amazon published and his studio developed it. But not even kernel space software should be able to brick a card, if it does, there is something wrong at hardware level. THERE IS NO FREAKING WAY AROUND IT. Look at EVGA they found their issue and they declared what the issue was because they fucking knew they were probably the ones to blame, and in this case is potentially nvidia, because guess what? maybe their reference design sucks!

[@TheThirdeYe1337]

*knocks on wood* I've played about 20-25 hours using my 3080 FTW3 Ultra and haven't had an issue yet. Temps and power levels seem fine with MSI Afterburner. Fairly hot ambient temps as well.

[@mattfletcher6715]

I play 50 hours on my Gigabyte 3070 with only a few game crashes. Had my first black screen today. PC turned back on fine, I'm considering myself lucky though and will be waiting for a fix. Bummer though I was really enjoying playing an MMO that wasn't dead.

[@JayAR_YT]

Check if all your fans are spinning boss

[@mattfletcher6715]

@@JayAR_YT they are! case is relatively clean and everything works normal in other games. Also GPU is at 100% usage when I'm playing new world

[@Hellspawnxxx]

how have you managed to play 20-25 hrs of that dog shit game???

[@kolavadae4592]

@@Hellspawnxxx damn uptight for a video game?

[@CarePackage-ut3tt]

Had a solder issues with a EVGA 2080 blower back in 2018. 4 days out of warranty, so it sat in my room as $800 e-waste and display for a couple years. Here, in 2021, I listed it for $500 as broken for parts, purely as a joke, and someone actually bought it in under 24 hours. Crazy times we live in