Something is Very Wrong in Sim Racing

[@Roger_Diz]

I really wish motorsports organizations would realize that they would get far more out of landing their license with a developer who would put them in a good light than just selling it off to the highest bidder and being represented by shit. A good sim helps bring in more viewers for your main product. No one plays the long game any more.

[@jevnik542]

i bet nascar lost huge amount of young public because of their bad games. F1 games on the other hand make good balance on simcade style and they attract people to watching real deal

[@zombiekilla25979]

@@jevnik542 even though from the looks of it, codies might be going down that road of mediocre but we'll have to wait f1 22

[@jamiecreighton4127]

@FreeBirb I had a small passion for rally my whole life but when I got my hands on dirt rally I fell in love with rallying and started watching WRC shortly after. im sure there's plenty of other people that it's happened to

[@brett22bt]

I thought they were acquiring licences and granting access to the lowest bidder.

[@honeybadger1656]

I bought kartkraft early in 2020, I joined their discord only to be greeted by rude adminis. The sim was okay but got boring racing ai that would just crash into you. That with the countless number of times that they promised to release multiplayer and never did made me Uninstall.

[@ShakeyVaccy]

It has multiplayer now but it's a bit weak. You can't create your own races but instead have to join randomly created ones that are at set times. So jumping online for some karting with friends/people of a similar skill level isn't a thing - a major problem in a racing game as it leads to many frustrating races. Last I was on there was also no collision - which whilst it does stop people deliberately ramming you is also really immersion breaking as you pass through everyone on corners. More like a time trial with ghosts than a race unfortunately.

[@QuixEnd]

Dang that sucks, I loved kartkraft as a quick pick up game. Never got to play online as it kinda sucked in 2020.

[@MikoOhneHose]

Can you go further into detail on how the mods were rude? Wanted to pick the game up but that sounds off-putting.

[@honeybadger1656]

@@MikoOhneHose just in general and not only to me. I enquired about multiplayer and a couple mods were really rude to me. Same goes for the track suggestions page.

[@honeybadger1656]

@@MikoOhneHose the games good though if you don't join their DC, but gets boring after a while, I'd suggest waiting until they properly release multiplayer.

[@JonasWindey]

I feel so sorry for Studio 397, my all time favorite sim that is now associated to a shady construction. Feels so wrong.

[@ak1504]

For me rF2 died when ISI got rid of it and beside of content theres zero development of physics or since 2012 unfinished broken sim features. I stopped buying content after the first gt3 pack when i saw that they give a shit about details like let alone correct dash screens and i dont support low effort. Other than that Offermanns promised a lot when Ermin did that interview and like nothing happend yet. So i dont care if rF2 gets put in the bin and erased from the sim world. Was fun when i bought "livetime licence" back in 2012. And looking at the player count on Steam its a dead horse anyway since years. Like zero growth at all.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

iRacing is still getting better. They're on track to be the #1 hard-core sim in the future.

[@Roger_Diz]

@@slowanddeliberate6893 only issue with iracing is the pricing puts off a lot of people. Not to mention their game engine is getting a bit long in the tooth and could use an update badly.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

@@Roger_Diz They're still growing, though.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

@@ak1504 i really like Assetto, but rFactor is a whole other thing. The fact that RF2 is dead feels absolutely horrible, and i don't even have it

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Damn, this makes me sad

[@awesomegumball14]

:(

[@ChrisC7498_]

I just hope Romain doesn't suffer any consequences from working with such a shady company 🙏

[@Soobovic]

ello Tommo

[@danielwest9955]

@@ChrisC7498_ Shoot, Fernando Alonso's a full-on investor...

[@BleedForTheWorld]

Nothing makes me happier when rich investors lose their capital to other bigger fish in the free market. That's what capitalism is all about - the framework for infinite growth but is such a thing truly sustainable?

[@benjaminh1034]

Funny story, I work in the Miami area as a cpa in financial reporting for a big software company and would always see job offers on LinkedIn for Motorsports. I thought it would be a cool job, but after some due diligence I ran as fast as I could, lol. Such typical South Florida corruption. Motorsport might not be around for much longer. Their earnings transcript and financials are awful. Even their cfo admit a going concern for lacking cash on hand. I think they’ll struggle to raise more debt or equity. A buyout or spin off of some holdings seems most likely. Good to see this story covered by larger channels.

[@PresidentScrooge]

This. Make research about these businesses. Especially if you plan to sell ownership of your IP to them. No one but the developers themselves are too blame for such poor business and falling for that.

[@Doing_The_Thing]

interviewed with them for the FP&A Director role late last year. Got a bad vibe and clearly avoided a massive headache.

[@wildedimensions]

this goes to show how valuable an open source model like assetto corsa is, the community always keeps moving the bar forward.

[@tacklefatkids]

Eh not really I'd say the automobilista 2 model would make more sense. Reiza are developers that actually care about their product.

[@Laxatangeek]

AC isn't open source

[@wildedimensions]

@@tacklefatkids I certainly agree with you that AMS 2 (Reiza Studios) really cares about their product. an are making big steps forward.

[@whac1c]

@@tacklefatkids AMS2 has quality content, but holy shit why can't they produce MORE relevant content. I could care less about 1990s CART cars.

[@isaacfenigsohn3839]

@@whac1c higher profile content is more expensive, and the owners of those high profile licenses are weary in how and when they give them out to ensure a good representation of that content.

[@PhilDiasPJD]

What a terrible video to make but so eloquently put forward Ermin. There really are just scammers out there trying to bleed industries and it's consumers. The figure of 81 million for Le Mans is just insane. A BTCC game sounds like a wonderful idea but not from this company too.

[@Theferrariguy]

Yeah would love a btcc game too but dont think that'll happen 😭

[@HallucinatingHedgehogs]

I was watching Austin ogonoski’s videos on the situation with msg before ermin made this vid. Apparently the btcc might have already pulled their license from msg. But idk for sure

[@namesii1880]

@@HallucinatingHedgehogs Isn't the BTCC game missing from their release roadmap, despite supposed to be launching this year?

[@neblolthecarnerd]

@@namesii1880 yea it is

[@mindofgoog5458]

@@HallucinatingHedgehogs oh no it already is and nascar and IndyCar are currently fighting to get out of their contracts

[@iRacerJared]

Thanks for giving a shoutout to Austin good lad. When Motorsports Games pulled that 24 hours of lemans bs where they are the only ones that can officially run it that is when I knew we had a problem.

[@elbowsout6301]

I have a friend that has been waiting for years for an Indy Car game. This was a very interesting watch. Thanks for taking the time to put this one together.

[@jc1424]

it's no help that influencers just choose to ignore this information, and call it "rumors" they're just being optimistic really

[@davidk2712]

the problem I see in that is: they slow down other high quality brands by taking the licenses of the big motorsport types to just hold them or to release them in more or less poor quality software. I saw some reviews of the latest nascar game, and it was weird. other titles like acc or iracing now got (or will get) problems to do races like le mans 24 because they don't have that license, or may loose it (like in the porsche cup case). rfactor (on its own) was in terms of physics such a good title, but with monetarization will come the downfall. those companies are posion to any kind of software, especially for those titles, which are used by people who love what they are doing.

[@OumuamuaOumuamua]

It’s insulting that Nascar 21 is considered a sim

[@steelin666]

Somebody told me regarding this situation "don't assume malice, when stupidity can be an explanation". Except it's naive to assume stupidity for somebody, whose actions hurt everybody around him, but not himself. That's the case with people behind MG and their fat salaries.

[@anonony9081]

It's not stupidity when they're lining their pockets. Nothing stupid about that from their point of view. They're in it for short term gain

[@asimpleman2585]

I understand that you are standing on Austin's shoulders but this is a hell of a video. Well done and thank you for your work.

[@AustinOgonoski]

It's important someone bigger than me covers the topic, otherwise I'll just get shouted at and deemed a schizo.

[@AustinOgonoski]

Yep, right on cue, "Austin is a disgruntled former pCars 3 shill and got banned from iRacing for hacking, take everything he says with a grain of salt." Check the recent comments on here.

[@nortski78]

We need to save Studio 397 at all costs. I can't bear the thought of losing rFactor 2. Let's all chip in and buy it :)

[@leomendoza450]

its on life support rn fr :/

[@ACasualRacer]

@Cameron Brown 100%... I own a company that just makes 3rd party mods for AC and AC Pro... Nothing crazy fancy and my team is about 12 people in total, but even then I see daily how thin the profit margins are in our community.

[@JZStudiosonline]

Well Austin, there you go. Someone's talking about it now.

[@onetripwonders]

Love Rf2 and Kartkraft, and I have to thank them if they were behind the virtual Le Mans and Formula E which was a big morale booster for motorsport fans during the pandemic. I guess if these companies like Studio 397 sold their games to Motorsport, that's their decision. We hear about these corporate moves in F1 all the time, so it's not that surprising.

[@jarmandalitz95]

The only shining light at the moment would be that iRacing through their acquisition of Monster games are moving into the console market with a World of Outlaws game. Hopefully that could also translate into them taking on the NASCAR and Indycar games in the future

[@ryuzaki7.62]

Great take on the matter man. Glad to see more light being shone on this

[@MetalgearLuke]

Hey if anyone is wondering what the song is that starts at 3:50, it's from the Fallout 2 soundtrack. Dream Town to be specific. Excellent choice of an ambient track! Bravo!

[@haramaschabrasir8662]

The game industry is not about games anymore. It's about investing. Game companies are banks, games are venture capital. That's also the reason why every game enters the market incomplete. You want maximum profit with the least investment. It's disgusting. And NO: this is not the only way to run a whole market. Customer focus can be a thing, though it's not as profitable.

[@RhodokTribesman]

Yep, it's called Neoliberalism. There are tons of versions of capitalism, but this ain't it.

[@FedericoTesta1]

i mean Kozko was managing a company called Caribbean Soda. I mean these kind of people are all over the place. They could just "manage" anything and get their pockets full and not even knowing what they are selling.

[@GTHutchy]

One thing very wrong with sim racing is that you don’t have at least 500k subs. Love the videos man!

[@Fungamer4570]

I have upmost respect for people like you who work for hours on these videos this has got to be one of the most well made videos i've seen in a long time I love the montage at the start ofthe video

[@03canadianf5]

This is unreal. Well done on this video Ermin.

[@Joao_Dario]

The only outrageous thing to me was hearing, sim racing and nascar heat in the same sentence.

[@redline589]

HamSandwich this is some nice journalism mate and a good video, keep up the quality content thanks.

[@btccisace4827]

It's not journalism at all - someone else fed him the news and then he published it without checking the Le Mans stats, which were publically available and by a third party research company shambolicly bad!

[@dylanc_network7902]

as a nascar fan. no one liked the game and most of the pc users have moved onto older games and sims. it sucks to see the sports exlusive videogame is hold by a company thats going bankrupt

[@BC76x]

I love the videos you do like this, no one except maybe Chris Haye could come close to your informative yet entertaining way of handling these topics. Thank you

[@christiantaylor1495]

American Krogan does it best

[@LithFox]

Can I point out I called this out as soon as they bought rF2 and all I got was called an iRacing Shill? The thing is, regardless of what your favorite sim is, venture capitalism sucks. In ALL industries. It is literally designed around pump and dump at the worst of times, and in the best case scenarios you get a company so out of touch with their user AND employee base that it’s likely they can just implode. At the end of the day, we should strive for the betterment of all sims. Even if you don’t like iracing, they fund a LOT of neat physics systems. AC is generally open to modding, and R3E just is doing its thing. I feel like the only real loser in all of this is rf2. It deserves better, but it’s been so absolutely mismanaged since it’s launch that I can’t help but dislike it. End of the day, the only ones who can protect sim racing are its fans. Keep educated, keep learning, keep understanding. We’re a lot smarter than most venture capitalists deal with in other industries. :) and good luck out there (and CAN SOMEONE PLEASE THROW MONEY AT A GOOD RALLY GAME WITH VR IF ANYTHING)

[@mcfireballs3491]

Lol, I still chuckle about the 'hamsandwich' part. I'm a simple man

[@supercededman]

There's quite a few of us who enjoy such playground 'humour' :-)

[@pcraenme]

The first Virtual Le Mans was also broadcasted on public TV in The Netherlands, so that were already 17 million (potential) viewers!😜

[@Onechrisscott]

RIP Kart Kraft. That explains why the multiplayer never arrived. Do you sometimes film for traxtionGG?

[@aczech12]

Multiplayer is there. Just very simple.

[@Krovven]

Diablo music...how'd you get that license? Or shall we expect thus to get copywrite claimed?

[@Karto86]

The music in the background :D is it Lineage2 soundtrack? Diablo 2?

[@Jt7166]

Whatever the outcome may end up being, I hope the devs for rf2, Kartkraft etc are alright. There are some good people there that have no involvement in the sale and shady dealings of Dmitri Kosko. They were given a glimmer of hope with new ownership, more funding and more press only to see it crash and burn.

[@milesfarber]

I've been playing rf2 for 5 years. The devs are not alright. They are deranged.

[@Jt7166]

@@milesfarber huh, who?

[@Bazzookie]

@@milesfarber I've been playing rFactor 2 since day 1, back When ISI still was in charge of it. Considering what Studio 397 were handed (literally the equivalent of a concept, not an actual full fledged game worth money) they've done a pretty damn good job, particularly on the content side. The UI was always awful, it wasn't 397's fault, and sure they missed the mark in fixing it at first, but the current menu system is perfectly adequate now. Sure the base HUD is just as awful as it was originally, but you can literally install other HUDs so it's really not an issue. Graphically Rf2 looked like crap and 397 made it look genuinely good for what it is, at least if you're on a 397 built track in a 397 built car. The biggest issues with the game which are certain potential cracks in the physics engine and the archaic mod/content management system are ISI's fault and fixing those issues requires going deep into the engine and design of the game, something that would likely require 397 to completely halt all production of new content as well as other improvements because I imagine that they haven't even dared open the Pandora's box that is rF2's engine, they've only been building on top of it. ISI was doing some seriously revolutionary stuff for the time when they first developed rFactor 2 so God only knows what that code looks like and how it actually works. People think the AI suck, but in reality what you have to do is play around with AI settings in the Player.json file. the original rFactor was exactly the same and by default the AI were essentially made crap by their own settings hidden away on a config file with settings only accessible by going into the install directory. They still won't be "amazing" but tbh there really aren't that many racing games in general with AI you can actually call "good". Cut 397 some slack, they deserve a lot of credit.

[@milesfarber]

@@Bazzookie "The UI was always awful" Stopped reading.

[@Jok3sta]

@@milesfarber if you didn't think the UI was awful, you are in the extreme minority. The old UI was atrocious.

[@darkaraik5721]

Excellent dive on the situation, learnt a lot about MSGames from this than i had ever known before. Really just hoping the the publishers make it out of this, as much as i am an iRacing fanboi we cannot afford to lose sims like rf2, community needs competition. Also Gender Studies joke had me in tears.

[@collinclary5762]

And sadly for us Oval guys it's really IRACING or nothing because Console NASCAR hasn't been good since like 2015 and I don't have the patience for NR2003

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I mean the whole situation makes me sick... And these verture capital folks are not the only ones that are making me feel this way... Like who whould give a nobody your lisnece when most great devs have to make do with out it? Or who would sell to a publisher you know nothing about?

[@chrisg.2962]

Taking a risk and now they screwed up an now nascar wants it back

[@simx98]

I had a hunch Austin was talking about you, Ermin

[@custom-r]

This is reminding me of how Telltale Games fell. They stretched themselves thin, by getting all these licenses and pumping out games in a short, unsustainable time frame. Motorsport Games is doing something identical. They buy up so much licenses, they don't have a budget for the games to compensate. The license holders really need to be more strict about who they hand licenses to, but also they need to think about branching away from just having one exclusive group develop their games.

[@donjezza]

I was wondering what happened to kartkraft, great journalism Ermin.

[@millennialchicken]

The MG house of cards keeps growing, but that means it's gonna collapse harder too.

[@cinyarko]

...why is Diablo 2 Harrogath theme playing throughout? It was driving me crazy for like an hour trying to remember where I know it from.

[@iGearhead]

Homie the editing here is unreal. Kudos to whoever deserves it. Epic video. You could even send him my way maybe. Wink wink*

[@Daveybird]

This is why I'm glad I stick to NASCAR Heat 2000, NR2003, and rFactor 1 and 2 Mods, for more than a decade now, and create them myself!! Especially good for Dirt Oval besides iRacing.

[@SchmidtP89]

Dude, what? Diablo 2 music for sim racing news? LOL 😄 6:50

[@FranciscoFJM]

Man, i fear for the future of rF2 now. All the other stuff can suck it for all i care, but rF2 is very important in the sim world.

[@Ermz]

I, too, would like to see rFactor 2 succeed.

[@Smoked_Cheddar]

Diablo 2 Lord of destruction music? Classic

[@TheBrennanSchafer]

I actually called this out on Twitter shortly after NASCAR Ignition came out. They also tweeted about Alonso being a shareholder about 8 months ago. I told him to sell all his shares now as the company would likely be out of cash soon. But I follow the stock market closely and am a sim racer, I was interested in their IPO but after some research realized they were sketch as hell. I actually looked into shorting them but they really don’t have enough volume to do something like that safely.

[@psyaviah]

Thanks for talking about this, was waiting for a bigger simracer to talk about this finally and raise concerns! Thanks for bringing it up!

[@McBeamer94]

@5:53 Oh my word. That was the channel that interviewed the BeamNG devs back in December 2021. 😱😱😱

[@worldofradiocontrol10]

We are sim racers. They got the 24 hours of LeMans license only to lock it behind an invite only race. The whole point on sim racing is to get past the financial gatekeeping of real racing.

[@eannamcnamara9338]

I hope NASCAR , Indycar and WEC pull out. they're all great series that deserves great games.

[@nfg_racing7968]

Is that diablo 2 music I hear at 7:30?

[@neblolthecarnerd]

The main loss of this to me is the btcc game. As someone too young to have grown up with the Toca games I've been wishing for one for years. I was really happy when I finally saw one was being made. Now it's gone and I don't think there will ever be one for at least another half a decade. yayyyyyyyyyyyy

[@essesumfui]

rFactor 2 gehts BTCC cars

[@neblolthecarnerd]

@@essesumfui honestly this seems to be a desperate attempt to get something out to capitalise on the license and the models they've made before the BTCC inevitably ditches on them.

[@essesumfui]

@@neblolthecarnerd most likely yes. But it is something you can try.

[@EnzoFazzi]

Is that Diablo 2 music I hear in the background?

[@Blafirelli]

Yup, i got so taken away by the music i even forgot to listen what Ermin's saying :)

[@vsm1456]

@@Blafirelli haha, same :D

[@helloflyingbott]

Interesting coverage and journalism about the sim racing business in general and about Motorsport Games specifically 👍🏼 Makes for an interesting alternative watch about sim racing. Thanks so much for making the video.

[@JEL5150]

Diablo 2 background music? That is really super. How'd you get so tasteful?

[@JimmyProductions]

*Me waiting for rf2 and all the other games to become abandon-ware after Motorsport games goes under so I can get them for free:*

[@d3Rm0Nk]

Oh Traxion is a subsidiary of motorsport games? That's why they always seemed off to me

[@gustavogoesgomes1863]

7:00 wait, harrogath??? I'm watching a simracing video and suddenly oh, the memories... 😆

[@I_Punch_Demons]

This was an amazing video and really the business hat Ermin I wanted to see.

[@ronknox3376]

I think that EA Sport and Codemasters are suddenly looking like the company of angels. Great video Ermin. Nice job back-dooring the word "scam" in there by not wanting to mention it...lol

[@LupusAries]

This tells the same message as countless others in gaming: Keep Wall Street out of Gaming! Or big capital for that matter, once a company is not owned by it's crwator, but is beholden to shareholders who do not care about gaming it goes downhill. Other examples are: Bethesda and it's decline in Quality since going public. Oblivion had it's faults but was overall good, Fallout meh but competently made, Skyrim was "streamlined" to hell for mass market appeal. Fallout 4 was bad, Fallout 76 an unmitigated Cashgrab disaster. EA since going public in the late 90s eraly 2000s. Look at their 90s games, Ultima, Wing Commander, Jane's Combat Sims the original C&C. Then early 2000's BF 1942, BF Vietnam, BF2, great games, but by the first BF2 addon, Special Forces, the rot had begun to set in. Now look at the most recent BF releases of BF V and 2042....2042 outright failed. And that was after a high with BF3, BF4 and BF1. And lets not forget how they aquired and ruined Bioware! Do I even need to mention Blizzard? P.S. I could mention a few more, but I shall not for the sake of brevity.

[@abeidiot]

Well if you even mention the word crypto all gaming goes angry at ballistic rate lol, so wall street it is

[@LupusAries]

@@abeidiot Not at a ballistic rate, but at the rate of an angry AIM-9X Sidewinder coming of the rail that has just seen a heat source. The original idea of crypto is good, but the whole NFT shit.......yesh that really makes a lot of us want to reach for the nuclear button.😉 People already hate Star Citizen's finance model, and then something like Star Atlas comes along.....

[@rdablock]

can't put out AAA games without investments sadly, Wall Street will always be a part of gaming

[@Roger_Diz]

Great post. The main problem is once a company becomes public companies have a fiduciary duty to investors and when what investors want conflicts with gamers, we're going to lose. Investors don't give a shit about the future of a company, only making a short term gain and getting out before the bottom drops out. Reality is with modern games sometimes costing North of 100 million to get to release the money has to come from somewhere. It's a very vicious circle. Capitalism is ruining our games but without it, would our games even be able to exist?

[@John-ok8ts]

The problem is at some point to make a game successful to the point where it can actual support the development deals like this have to be done. I don't think gamers realize how expensive games are and how much is often done by developers doing it just out of love but that's not sustainable.

[@sethtones]

Automobilista 2 welcomes all with open arms 😊

[@xxczerxx]

Damn. They have a deal for a BTCC game. Seeing as it'll either be a dud or cancelled, I hope it gets dropped quickly and hopefully another dev can strike a deal with them.

[@medwaystudios]

Rfactor 2 is releasing it next month.

[@mfdoom808]

What game is the background music from? The music is excellent and I remember playing it, but I can't remember the game name.

[@Ermz]

Red Alert, Fallout 2 and Diablo II: LoD !

[@mfdoom808]

@@Ermz Ahhhh the Act V music from D2. Brilliant!

[@rsoulinternet]

@@Ermz I thought it was the theme from The Godfather. No idea why.

[@BassCannon1]

awesome video, but someone has GOT to DM Romain or his PR team and tell them to stop it with the crypto-coin ads and joining this company as an “advisor”. not doing him good looks and could potentially end his motorsport career if/when they all tank.

[@kondor9998]

I really hope rF2 doesn’t get sucked into the vortex of corporate malfeasance. It’s one of my favorites.

[@sanandreasthegoldenknight5207]

Scammers discover gaming... oh boy...

[@TheKenji2221]

11:25 Didn't notice it (and quite out of subject tbh), but I find it extremely creepy to put stats about staff's sex and skin color. In Europe, that would have been seen as discrimatory and/or racist and banned Interesting video btw

[@AustinOgonoski]

I think it's just an aggregate site.

[@TheKenji2221]

@@AustinOgonoski I think that actually looked like Linkedin

[@indymodz177]

RF2 has gotten better and im not a shareholder. I would never buy a nascar game anyway.. As long as rf2 get sold to a good company to keep it going idc what happens to MS games

[@speedhunter7156]

Hey at least your calling them out on it I've been studying in on that for a few months now and seeing you make a video on it nice

[@Jormvngandr]

Bonus points for using parts of the Diablo II: Lord of Destruction soundtrack

[@thedriverux]

1:10 Reverse Stock Split and a delay of earnings hits home.

[@NEWBkiller646]

It's a real bummer that the closest thing to Indycar or WEC game for mainstream players on both console and PC is still Project Cars 2

[@Bonneville63]

First time I've heard Diablo 2 soundtrack in investigative journalism :P :)

[@maxrobe]

What's the music in this from?

[@vsm1456]

Red Alert, Fallout 2 and Diablo II: LoD

[@petermeyer6873]

Very good video that leaves only one question: Wtf is super bowl - some coocking competition show maybe?

[@cheiften98]

"The Net Element executive team is 0% female and 93% male." What Da!

[@mogusgod5954]

i love the gran turismo music in the background there

[@axelode45]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on Rennsport!

[@DanLMH]

With his ties to overtake (and therefore Porsche), I wouldn't expect one anytime soon

[@Leynad778]

Random Callsign did an interesting one. Rennsport(.)gg is looking for graphic- and video-editors, key account and social media manager, but not even one game-developer. Isn't that a bit odd for a game allegedly build from scratch?

[@axelode45]

@@Leynad778 Wow that is quite strange. As much as I am for competition in the simracing market, I can't help but think this games main focus will be profit from microtransactions and trading. The car models look stunning, but that's about all we have seen. The whole thing just smells like a pump and dump cashgrab, but I guess there's got to be something in it if ESL is involved. I am very eager to get more info on it.

[@Leynad778]

@@axelode45 Since 'Simbin' showed similar awesome shots in February 2017 from the supposed to be soon release GTR3, I wouldn't be fooled my screenshots alone anymore. We now know that KW Automotive and so Raceroom from Sector 3 Studios is in the boat, but still no trace of GTR3. Maybe Rennsport is actually the GTR3 we were waiting for and since the reputation of the franchise and company-name has been scorched, Rennsport could be a fresh brand to start with. But I can't find any connection between Rennsport CEO Morris Hebecker and KW, but also no 'dirty' history behind this name. Hebecker was working for Codemasters 20 years ago and is involved in a company called Ingman, that develops VR-apps for business purpose. He's also CEO of a company called morphicon since 2010 that does 90% game-development according to their site, but doesn't look big enough to develop a new title from scratch. We will see ... or not...

[@tylerbarrett8787]

VCs throwing money at nonsensical business models?!?! Ermin that never happens.

[@squidcaps4308]

I want to know what happens to Motorsports Games in the next two quarters. I have a feeling that some of that investment capital is actually frozen..

[@iGearhead]

I would prefer a few largely concentrated high quality games with a large esports backup. As opposed to a large number of trash low quality quick dollar games, of course. But it’s all about money these days nothing else really matters🙄

[@TomLehockySVK]

Every sim racing channel has to cover this ! This needs all the attention fro people, disgusting company.

[@liamcdm3689]

Side note: the GT7 and Diablo 2 music works strangely well here.

[@bertram-raven]

KartKraft is now down to racing tumbleweeds.

[@dlugsch]

The 2023 INDYCAR game will most likely never see the light of day😭

[@trexx97]

To be fair Traxion, or however you spell it, isn't bad.

[@labpong7562]

It's not that great either......i deleted it off my bookmarks

[@btccisace4827]

Agreed - the best news site by far!

[@SeaGLGaming]

Really hope Studio 397 and 704Games make it out of this okay.

[@ACasualRacer]

Considering they are owned by Motorsport games they are both tied to the success of Motorsport games.

[@SeaGLGaming]

@@ACasualRacer Depends on if this is gonna be a slow painful death or a quick one. If everything happens quickly, they could probably both separate or form new studios and maybe get their IPs back during liquidation. But if MSG tries to take everyone down with the ship then yeah...

[@ACasualRacer]

@@SeaGLGaming potentially, but considering they were bought by a publicly traded company shareholders would have first dibs

[@SchleyU]

Came for the Sim racing info.. Stayed for the legendary D2 music..

[@mattschafer6291]

Reminds me of a game that was called "Simraceway" it always seemed to good to be real,then it just vanished .

[@MsTheCops]

Dang corruption is everywhere ...

[@ManHobbyChannel]

Just a heads up. The Superbowl has somewhere between 200.000.000 and 300.000.000 viewers world wide.

[@edcadlick2650]

Failure isn't good but maybe it should be. We need Racers making racing games I would invest in racing. Somebody please make a game maybe you.😍🇨🇦

[@wockie6342]

To be honest, it’s exciting that they were able to expand into so many different form of motor sports. It’s just unfortunate for us players that the people behind this all just wanted a quick buck, and actually don’t give a donkey about us. If the right people acquire motor sports network, which is highly unlikely considering the fact they’re the one acquiring, I think it might actually really hurt the sim racing scene by demotivating people to make games on smaller motor sports, or bigger ones without games. If they fail in WEC, Indycar, and others, no one will want to make indycar and WEC games because the last ones failed.

[@1xRacer]

ty for making this, more influeneres have responsibility to put this information out there

[@ryobibattery]

Austin Never Drew A Dime

[@bentruitt9401]

Great vid. I'm glad I'm aware of these fucks now. I was a little uncomfortable when I learned rfactor 2 was bought be some investment co. That had just bought a bunch of other titles, suspicions confirmed.