Something most people don't understand about Aikido

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Hein's Approach to Aikido

Hein's Approach to Aikido

Күн бұрын

There is an often forgotten part of Aikido that makes it very difficult to understand the forms. Aikido classically has three weapons: the Jo, the Bokken and the Tanto (knife). Aikido is a martial art that was built for the modern era, it's goals are more about self development than they are about mass distruction. However Aikido's forms are built upon the classical structure of Japanese Jujutsu- which means the forms revolve around small weapons work- specifically the knife. In this video I will explain how that works, and how looking at knife work can improve your Aikido forms training.
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@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not an aikido practioner myself, but I have played with techniques over the years. I have always seen that aikido has functionality, but, to my perspective, most aikido instructors I've seen don't know how to teach it. They get way into the philosophy, and forget its roots. This is the first video I've seen that explains some of the more puzzling aspects of the art to me. The idea of the open hand being used to either free your weapon or create the opportunity to draw your weapon makes so much more sense than open hand alone.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@antalantal2366
@antalantal2366 2 жыл бұрын
Eventually a video that renders justice to the historical context of aikido: there is always a tanto or katana involved and the intention of keeping a distance. Martial art practitioners are absolutely free to think that aikido is ineffective but, please, consider it also in its historical context and it will make , at least,more sense. What is strange is that most of the people I met are unaware of these aspects. Not to mention on YT. Thank you very much for posting.
@psychedashell
@psychedashell 2 жыл бұрын
A century of history at the most generous several centuries after swords were banned.
@piotrmalewski8178
@piotrmalewski8178 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is that Aikido is a set of humanitarian finishing moves. Not something you want to start a fight with.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 жыл бұрын
i never see any martial artist that thinks aikido is ineffective. only people who are into competetive sports fighting entertainment trash aikido out of ignorance and an inflated ego...
@nanoid314
@nanoid314 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a long time Ju-jutsu coach, and I thought this was my pet theory (that aikido makes much more sense if I'm the one trying to retain control of my weapon). I've never seen anyone else saying this. It also explains why the opponent is singlemindedly grabbing your wrist instead of just letting go - he's afraid of getting stabbed.
@sleepy_Dragon
@sleepy_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It only makes sense when you factor in a sword or knife. Just like some techniques in various martial arts come from fighting in armor. Without the historic context they look silly too.
@klausehrhardt4481
@klausehrhardt4481 2 жыл бұрын
After watching samurai movies and a litle aikido demostration, it became clear. Me to: first time seeing someone coming out and telling what aikido is all about. Yet I deem most of them will be efective only in case both contenders were armed.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 жыл бұрын
i am confused. i practised Aikido in Europe and its no secret at all that aikido's empty hand techniques come directly from sword techniques. it is very normal for any aikido teacher to demonstrate that eg a shiho nage technique comes from an empty handed oponent (uke) who grabs the sword wielding wrists of the tori (nage), who does the shiho nage technique to free himself. maybe in america this crucial aspect has been lost or is not generally taught? anyway, aikido's techniques come from sword techniques but not from knife...
@ambulocetusnatans
@ambulocetusnatans 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustMe-vz3wd It depends on the teacher and what branch of Aikido it is. I learned this at my first school, but when I went to a new school, I was surprised that nobody knew this.
@asengeorgiev7848
@asengeorgiev7848 Жыл бұрын
If it helps you, as a HEMA practitioner, that was my pet theory as well :) ! I'm just glad I found an Aikido instructor that says that.
@kwisatz_haderach1445
@kwisatz_haderach1445 2 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense. It begs the question of why is this not taught (and shown) from the get go. I have never seen this and my 1st exposure to Aikido was in the 70s.
@jassianterri
@jassianterri 2 жыл бұрын
We do defense against Jo, Bokken and Tanto. 🙂
@johnlloyddy7016
@johnlloyddy7016 2 жыл бұрын
When I trained back in the early 90s, Saturdays was scheduled for advance students' weapons training. It consisted of Jo and Bokken drills. Tanto however was regularly used during regular class to remind all students that we were training for self defense and not for schoolboy fistfights.
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 2 жыл бұрын
I think that, back when Aikido was being developed (and / or as it spread internationally), getting your hands on blunt, dull or otherwise safe weapons was harder, so they just practiced them unarmed, which eventually led to the mistake of people being taught that these were unarmed techniques. It could also be that some teachers actually thought that they worked just as well with unarmed fighting as with weapons, which would make some sense in the context of postwar Japan where weapons were being confiscated and the culture was becoming more pacifistic.
@noahlevine7894
@noahlevine7894 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathancampbell5231 except that Daito Ryu is taught all empty handed and prewar students didnt show techniques with a tanto like this. I think Chris Hein has backward engineered to rediscover what he thinks gives aikido a context. I think its very insightful but I find there is an issue when we apply this context to modern times for average citizens who don’t carry a weapon. I have seen videos where the “bad guy” has a gun or knife and the “good guy” grabs katate dori or ushiro kubishime to control the weapon but have not follow up. What if aikido’s real benefits is in learning to deal with techniques from uke’s perspective.
@noahlevine7894
@noahlevine7894 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathancampbell5231 i was just reading “Hidden In Plain Sight” by Ellis Amdur and he has a paragraph that reads “Tokimune states that Kunitsugu also, ‘transmitted the secret methods of Daitō-ryū aiki in the form of kogusoku.’ This is a term used by many early martial traditions, meaning grappling in light armor while wielding a dagger or other small weapon” so maybe Chris’s ideas are not new.
@thunderflower7998
@thunderflower7998 2 жыл бұрын
You are bringing Aikido in a new justified view!The way you explain to us the Art does make you one of the best exponers and inner circle deciphers of the Art!Your explanation united the Aikijutsu origins in brutal survival techniques and Aikidos “encoded” techniques!Who has eyes to see let him see and who has ears to listen let him listen!It now brings the Aikido in the real use of every day training for a reason AVOID SMALL DIRTY WEAPONS AND SURVIVE THEM!My most respected admiration and greetings from Greece.
@Orschwerbleeede
@Orschwerbleeede 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. You are my favorite aikido - teacher. I always thought that after 900 years of civil war the japanese arts cannot be wrong and concluded that in times of peace many teachers lost track of the original applications. Your videos make so much sense. Greetings from a former German nightclub bouncer. 🙏
@joeholloway4558
@joeholloway4558 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hein, while I study Aikijutsu not Aikido, there is a huge overlap shared techniques. Thank you for helping explain the things so many people miss understand about why techniques can actually be used, given the right opportunity.
@heresjonny666
@heresjonny666 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you’re uploading more regularly. I think yours is the most sensible approach to aikido I’ve ever seen.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@TopLob
@TopLob 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these videos, because this is Aikido. If an "Aikidoka" doesn't know this, they're not doing Aikido. It has frustrated me for so long that so many people teach "Aikido" without being qualified, and as a result, they don't know these fundamental aspects of Aikido. You don't have to even dig deep to find this information. The problem is that most people don't dig at all, and instead they just make shit up. Like that youtuber who went from being an "Aikido sensei" to practicing MMA or something. He actually never did any Aikido at all.
@asengeorgiev7848
@asengeorgiev7848 Жыл бұрын
@@TopLob I've seen his channel, but I hope he's just in for the clickbait. But let's be fair to him as well: if it's empty-handed fighting (especially 1:1) that he's concerned about, MMA would make a lot more sense. Problem is, in the most dangerous attacks an weapon is likely going to be used.
@jaketheasianguy3307
@jaketheasianguy3307 2 жыл бұрын
If only majority of Aikido schools actually taught their contents like this, actually put weapons into the hand of uke and tori while doing kata instead of trying to sell it as empty hand self defense. At this point i think people who do other forms of combat sports but does not do Aikido understand the context of Aikido techniques and principles way better than most Aikido practitioners out there
@oldnatty61
@oldnatty61 2 жыл бұрын
They can't. They weren't taught properly and consequently know no better.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 жыл бұрын
i am confused. it is normal practise in dojos to practise aikido techniques occasionally with boken to show the origen of the empty hand technique comes from sword fighting.
@NSResponder
@NSResponder 2 жыл бұрын
When I dabbled in Aikido many years ago, we did tanto-dori pretty much from the beginning, and we also practiced yari-waza.
@amk8411
@amk8411 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this! Many other Fighting Arts square off on the assumption that your opponent is armed.
@minorityofone1510
@minorityofone1510 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! As a trad Jiu Jitsu practitioner this has both gave me food for thought about many of our defensive techniques and also saved my faith in Aikido. I know it is a useful martial art if practiced and applied properly as many of the techniques are used in trad JJ - albeit usually more aggressively in our school.
@lantzeerie2481
@lantzeerie2481 2 жыл бұрын
What a refreshing angle on the art! Your work is appreciated.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, thank you!
@AikidoScholar
@AikidoScholar 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you explained it. Really nice video, as always! I've read other sources, such as Tamura Shihan's during an interview, that could fit with this explanation you gave. The fact is that it wasn't until "relatively late" (let's understand "late" as maybe 2nd uchideshi generation) when Ueshiba decided to teach his techniques explicitly using also a tanto as a means to make the principles of the techniques clear. I'm sure O Sensei's lesson were very challenging as he didn't have names for the techniques at that moment and when most students asked him to repeat if they didn't get it, he just did the same principle but using a different form. Again, I love how you explained everything sir! Been following this channel for quite a long time and I'm glad to find schools and instructors with similar lines of thought. 🙇🏻‍♂️🙇🏻‍♂️🙇🏻‍♂️ Greetings from Spain! 😁
@StephenLonsdale
@StephenLonsdale 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation! The entire syllabus does make sense now!
@seresos1
@seresos1 2 жыл бұрын
The editing and overall production value is making steady progress! Keep it up!
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@ghostbeetle2950
@ghostbeetle2950 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I wanna come and learn from you guys, but that commute is gonna be killer! Stay awesome!
@legalmechman
@legalmechman 2 жыл бұрын
I second that!
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
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@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
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@legalmechman
@legalmechman 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChuShinTani Online courses are OK, but I find it's best to learn from an actual person
@ghostbeetle2950
@ghostbeetle2950 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChuShinTani Cool! Thank you very much!
@thisweeksrehash
@thisweeksrehash 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this one! When I tried this at my former dojo I got laughed at. Since I am also a practioner of striking arts I tried to make sense of the aikido attacks by holding a tanto but that wasn't welcome because they said their are only specific techniques for 🔪 attacks. I was only following my instincts. Glad I'm not the only one 😏
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! Glad you found it confirming!
@valentinosikano
@valentinosikano 2 жыл бұрын
thanks alot for this video . this is what an aikido instructor should explain for first, it really change the way you can pratics for me at least.
@RichardBejtlich
@RichardBejtlich 2 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense. 🔥🥋
@hichamgara9394
@hichamgara9394 2 жыл бұрын
The best explanation of Aikido techs ever.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
@joco762
@joco762 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not just aikido. Started karate in the 70’s and escrima in the 90’s. Many traditional systems try adapting weapons motions to empty hand with varying success. Then when pressure testing it out of context it can turn out as less than ideal. It’s funny how well some of the silly moves you learn for self defense ( double wrist grab to drag a victim back to the car ) work with 4 hands on the knife.
@normalized_freak
@normalized_freak 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully, my Sensei actually reveals the logic behind all techniques. In Irimi Nage, we are supposed to cut the Uke's throat before letting the poor man go meet the tatami.
@djsuter4410
@djsuter4410 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see this out there. I switched to a koryo bujutsu after years of aikido and finally saw the rationale behind the movements from another art.
@krupalvithlani
@krupalvithlani 2 жыл бұрын
You said exactly what I was thinking 😂😂😂. "We don't see tanto..." and me talking to myself "much of it is actually tanto"
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ 2 жыл бұрын
Josh rocking the Full Prussian
@zachariahtaylor7811
@zachariahtaylor7811 2 жыл бұрын
This video just landed you another subscriber. Judo player myself, always a skeptic, I like what you’re showing.
@timparsons2105
@timparsons2105 2 жыл бұрын
My Sensei always taught us: "empty hands are the same a weapons, weapons are the same as empty hands." By the time I got to live blade techniques, there was really no transition, it all felt the same. (He was uchi deshi under Morihiro Saito Sensei in Iwama.) Thank you for the excellent training.Onegaishimasu!
@johndalquen7668
@johndalquen7668 2 жыл бұрын
This really makes a lot of sense. I like the fact resistance was shown as well, instead of one guy just flipping around like mad.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@KilianMuster
@KilianMuster Жыл бұрын
This really opened my eyes. It's so strange. In the Dojo I used to practice a long time ago, the teacher always illustrated variations with the uke holding a knife or the nage holding one and trying to free himself from a grab, but it always seemed more like a variation rather than the real essence of these techniques.
@andrzejbarszcz1721
@andrzejbarszcz1721 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone has some sense to explain it to MMA fanatics, who always brag how Aikido is bs. Well done 👍
@ironjavs1182
@ironjavs1182 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Lot of things make sense if you think that nage has a tanto in hands! That's why you grab the hand, that's why you want to make ukemi, cause you are trying to avoid being stabbed or having knife in your legs (kokyonages). Fortunately we are taught that in our dojo, but we do also pretty much all the weapons quite often and it is really fun! 😊 I'm really surprised that other dojos doesn't do that or even doesn't mention that 😳
@csabamikula7167
@csabamikula7167 2 жыл бұрын
Once I participated in an aikido training and a I took a tanto, you know, made of wood. And my partner was like I turned into “beast mode” or something: he was so intimidated from the fact that I have a tanto in my hand, that he immediatly blocked everything, and the practice was impossible. That’s the level how the people did not get used to it. To the whole concept.
@keithweaver8564
@keithweaver8564 Жыл бұрын
I trained in an Aikido program with this attitude and this was my understanding of this art for years. Hearing all the MMA dumping on Aikido made no sense until I found that most Aikido schools are spiritual pursuits, not martial arts. I like your videos. Keep spreading the news!
@Yoshin3000
@Yoshin3000 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Very nice!
@markainslie
@markainslie 8 ай бұрын
This is pretty self-evident in koryu jujutusu. All those old, strange looking grabs and attacks presuppose that weapons are present. Wrist grabs (an attack that confuses most modern martial artists as impractical) make way more sense when you put a sword/knife/gun in someone's hand.
@u4tubular
@u4tubular 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, just stumbled upon this. Finally someone who related that! Another weapons based concept that goes even a step further is getting the uke into the desired position by the nage actually initiating the attack, sen no sen and sensen no sen. As you said, that makes the distancing, footwork, and actions more understandable.
@edi9892
@edi9892 2 жыл бұрын
I can't name the techniques, but it was quite a lightbulb moment when I realized that you'd cling on to the arm if it was holding a weapon...
@skyfistoflight
@skyfistoflight 2 жыл бұрын
Great commentary. Context changes everything.
@hierontatohtori8696
@hierontatohtori8696 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent & educational. Thank you so much for the video.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Stefan0larsson
@Stefan0larsson 2 жыл бұрын
Respect, and it makes alot of sense in the context.
@kalidynamics
@kalidynamics 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Chein! You just made me subscribe!!!
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Glad you like the videos!
@bigsidable
@bigsidable 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful explanation of the complexities of Aikido and the Katana. Does not matter the weapon. Or line of attack. Yodan, Jodan, Godan. All the same.
@ocaikiclub2859
@ocaikiclub2859 2 жыл бұрын
This is great, as usual!
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@gordonshumway9765
@gordonshumway9765 Жыл бұрын
I really like what you are teaching.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani Жыл бұрын
Hey, is this "Alf"?
@gordonshumway9765
@gordonshumway9765 Жыл бұрын
@@ChuShinTani I do not prefer Muna dori classes
@shawnwilliams6924
@shawnwilliams6924 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - great explanation.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@josephisaacs4172
@josephisaacs4172 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ernstgreiner5927
@ernstgreiner5927 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@danielopez07
@danielopez07 2 жыл бұрын
As an Aikido practitioner I feel this has been sometimes hinted during training sessions, but I think it is not emphasized enough by far.
@bigsidable
@bigsidable 2 жыл бұрын
The Essence of Aikido.
@psuedomonas1
@psuedomonas1 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I stick to aikido vs other jujitsu style. It covers almost anything.
@IntolerantZen
@IntolerantZen 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful concept!
@jussitaipale5471
@jussitaipale5471 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I started aikido again after 12 years pause doing ”real MA”. When coming back aikidotraining because of injuries, I found out, that to make it work I need to imagine a weapon in my or partners hand. Even seeing plain shomenuchi ikkyo feels just stupid, if there is alternative to do a real knockout punch with fist. Without weapon it seems as working as bitchslapping. When boxer’s one + two will give you broken nose or something real to deal with.
@franciscordon9230
@franciscordon9230 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, fascinating
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@isaiaspagalaoridojr1752
@isaiaspagalaoridojr1752 2 жыл бұрын
thanks sensie for uploading this video watching from manila philippines
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Hello Manila!
@isaiaspagalaoridojr1752
@isaiaspagalaoridojr1752 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChuShinTani your welcome sensie im a practioner of aikido
@emsantiago
@emsantiago 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@markh1821
@markh1821 10 ай бұрын
Makes sense when swordsmen in Japan couldnt take their Katana indoors when visiting and could only keep their Wakizashi. Nice explanation :) Makes sense that Aikido as a sport wouldnt want to promote knife/short sword carrying therefore all empty hand training.
@j.g.h5491
@j.g.h5491 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@paultaylor107
@paultaylor107 2 жыл бұрын
When i did aikido we predominantly did tanto techniques. Our sensi 6th dan only let the dan grades do jo and boken work.
@jansoerenhoffman
@jansoerenhoffman 2 жыл бұрын
thx for the inspiration. Motivated by your call to look for techniques that cannot be performed with a Tanto I quickly went trough the majority of techniques I've learned over the past 30 years and I could find two technique where I am not so sure if this makes sense with a tanto in hand and an attacker tries to grab/control the arm: - teguruma (for me this is more like a counter technique. I see no sense in holding a tanto while performing it) - Seoi Guruma (same...) all others should work although it's not always obvious. debatable are the various kokyu nages. they highly depend on your aiki abilities and a strong grip of uke or a good leading hand with no touch at all...but does this count ? here are the techniques that I've checked: Ikkyo, Nikkyo, Sankyo, Yonkyo, Gokyo, Rokyo, Kubi Osae, Ude Garami, Hiji Shime Te Guruma, Koshi Guruma, Koshi Nage, Seoi Guruma Kiri Otoshi, Sumi Otoshi, Aiki Otoshi, Mae Otoshi, Maki Otoshi, Hiki Otoshi Irimi Nage, Kokyu Nage, Tenchi Nage, Kaiten Nage, Koshi Nage, Uchi Kaiten Nage, Kote Gaeshi, Shiho Nage, Udekime Nage
@johnlloyddy7016
@johnlloyddy7016 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Kokyu Nage is useful for battlefield melee, when you are being rushed by a dozen enemies and you don't have time to focus on one opponent at a time. It is similar to a football scrimmage where everyone is trying to tackle you and you need to dance around the offense to get the football to the end zone.
@medk
@medk Жыл бұрын
Is that the reason why Uke should not release his grip?
@hach2023
@hach2023 5 ай бұрын
This is excellent
@nyhyl
@nyhyl 2 жыл бұрын
What about tenshinage and that awkard kneeling right in front of the attacker with the upperbody very low so that he is supposed to trip over you? Especially that strange kneeling "technique" always did strike me as suicidal non-sense that would only work among devoted students.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Not the techinques I was talking about- but explaining that might be a good video! Thanks for your comments!
@joeholloway4558
@joeholloway4558 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the dropping in front of someone really does work. I did it to my younger brother. He came running up behind me, and was going to jump on my back. I heard him coming, and at the last second dropped to my knees just like I learned in Judo. He went flying over me, and landed funny, and re-broke his collar bone. It does work, but timing and their commitment to the attack is key.
@TrueFork
@TrueFork 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChuShinTani I always believed this was based on the story of Tachibana no Norimitsu in the Konjaku Monogatari Shu; It was dark, so he crouched low to see the attackers' outline against the night sky, and then did the thing when the first one swung his sword in the direction of the sound. It makes a lot more sense if you move into the other's legs and not passively kneel before them, but that makes it more challenging for uke so it's often introduced to beginners in the latter way.
@dbuck1964
@dbuck1964 2 жыл бұрын
Think of how a wrestler will feint high and then shoot low for a take down. It’s the same idea, you’re just blocking the leg from completing its step and the opponent topples over you in a way that is very difficult if not impossible to recover from.
@johnmulcahy9245
@johnmulcahy9245 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeholloway4558 Similarly, many years ago I was walking home and at the last second sensed someone trying to jump and get me in a headlock from behind. Luckily it was just a friend fooling around, but I ducked down. He missed me completely and landed in front of me with his back completely exposed. In the wrong circumstances, that could have ended up very badly for him. The funny part is how freaked out he was that I ducked under his attempt with no sign that I knew he was there - but, as I said, it was a last split-second awareness that someone was coming up from behind pretty quickly.
@joelbloggs5885
@joelbloggs5885 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone saying aikido is useless check out kazuo chiba sensei. Brutal man and one of the best aikido senseis ever.
@lolotus4borderless
@lolotus4borderless 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@TelevisualWasteland
@TelevisualWasteland 10 ай бұрын
20 years of Aikido and suddenly everything makes sense
@leglpcks
@leglpcks 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@gjgrgaming6442
@gjgrgaming6442 2 жыл бұрын
Seminar plz! :)
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be at combat con in Vegas this year.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 жыл бұрын
as far as i know, all or most aikido techniques come from sword fights. its normal in dojos that the teacher occasionally explains and demonstrates the empty handed aikido techniques with a bokken, like shiho nage, ikyo nikyo, shomen uchi, yokomen uchi. It explains the origin of the technique and also gives a practical feeling while doing the empty handed aikido techniques. shomen uchi comes from a knife attack? i doubt it. to block that way a knife attack as shown in this video is simply unrealistic the knife will cut your hand or wrist. lastly, there is ample documantation osensei and his students, it was bokken and jo, hardly any tanto. aikido techniques originate fromsword techniques, its hardly a secret... in aikido we always say when you practise aikido you practise as if you have a sword. i'll stick with the sword.....
@stuartcoyle1626
@stuartcoyle1626 2 жыл бұрын
I came to the same conclusion after many years of Aikido once I started doing iaijutsu and kenjutsu. The techniques make so much more sense when armed. Also they make much more sense when you put in atemi where openings come up, such as in your kotegaeshi example where you cut once the opponent turns, atemi to the face works just as well and keeps their other hand occupied. Nikkyo works particularly well when someone else grabs the tsuba of your sheathed sword, otherwise I always found nikkyo a bit odd, is that one of the techniques you mention near the end of the video?.
@williamcorreiagusmao9836
@williamcorreiagusmao9836 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Is there any "tanto no suburi" ? Something like that? I found a Yoshinkan Aikido Video that seems like a suburi practice...
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm aware of. Knives are so small, that there simply aren't as many things to do with them as say a sword or Jo. I'm sure there are some real knife fans out there who would argue that statement- but the longer the weapon, the more you can do with it.
@toddburnett4853
@toddburnett4853 2 жыл бұрын
Mind blown 😳 Make sense
@oldnatty61
@oldnatty61 2 жыл бұрын
Reach out to Rokas. He needs your help.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
We chat pretty regularly.
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187 2 жыл бұрын
Do you do live sparring? It'd be cool to get a video on that
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Videos are up.
@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh 2 жыл бұрын
Katate dori and different wrist control grabs are actually quite common in mma/wrestling and unarmed hand2hand combat scenarios. Also researching a lot of the grips in aikido such as ushiro haga ijime and mune dori etc etc, are all foundational grips for wrestling and judo. Could you elaborate more on these types of grips, how to get them in and which aikido techniques you can pull off from there and how to break free from them?
@itzatwister
@itzatwister 2 жыл бұрын
You should look up his Patreon page. He addresses all of your questions there and then some.
@ragnarlerouge3556
@ragnarlerouge3556 2 жыл бұрын
That make sense but why don't you train the techniques armed and then do some sparring session to apply the techniques with a resisting opponent ? Wouldn't it be a more effective training ?
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, videos are up.
@ragnarlerouge3556
@ragnarlerouge3556 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ChuShinTani I didn't know your channel so i check some videos and i think the way you train is great ! I'm not an aikidoka myself i'm doing boxing and BJJ but i've met some aikidoka who were really bad at fighting and weren't able to protect themselves so i thought aikido was a fraud but the way you train make me think it could be useful in certain situation even if it still sucks at fighting.
@antifasuperstar
@antifasuperstar 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, the background Music was unnessecary though
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Noted
@ACCool78
@ACCool78 2 жыл бұрын
Great info, but against an experienced knife fighter, none of those techniques would stop being cut. As you block or grab, opponent would pull back and cut. Still a lot of good info because if you get past the knife, your techniques are solid.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Knives are no joke.
@insidethevelvetglove3919
@insidethevelvetglove3919 8 ай бұрын
I am a BJJ BB who has just started Aikido. I always had the view that BJJ is great but was not always the right tool for some jobs. The rise of MMA has muddied the waters greatly and now it seems to be the gold standard for combat. Well once you add weapons into the mix MMA has some holes. After all, this is why weapons were invented, to give an advantage over an unarmed man. Any man.
@Quodge
@Quodge 2 жыл бұрын
Why not do Aikido with knife in hand as standard then?
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Good question, stay tuned!
@adramalech3385
@adramalech3385 2 жыл бұрын
Because nowdays people want some fitness practice, not martial warfare lol. You can't train kids with knives nowdays, is not socially acceptable. Not even for adults.
@jujitsuman9934
@jujitsuman9934 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly..........great vid! i love hearing mma people say it doesn't work and the bullshido thing. They have such confidence in their voice which always makes me laugh because they have no idea how dumb they sound.
@IronBodyMartialArts
@IronBodyMartialArts 2 жыл бұрын
Again. This sort of stuff. Is the difference between Budo and bull shit. I’ve almost given up trying to speak about Budo. Because no one has patience these days. Excellent and basic. The essence of Budo.
@arturtonderys1849
@arturtonderys1849 2 жыл бұрын
Nishio aikido was practising with weapon.
@keithschultz4187
@keithschultz4187 2 жыл бұрын
As much as i agree with all you it falls on deaf ears to most. All the mma bjj people dont want to hare cause "all traditional atrs are crap and they are fake etc,,, Love the traditional arts.
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you train empty-handed at all?
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good question- I think there are many possible answers. I believe that most likely it was that= - Unarmed martial arts were in vogue around the turn of the century, it could have simply been more popular to show it unarmed than armed.
@dobo9150
@dobo9150 2 жыл бұрын
I will continue to also train empty-handed because position, timing and moment-to-moment intent do not stop just because a weapon is or is not there. That said, weapons do shift position, timing and moment-to-moment intent, which is part of why we need to be able to keep them undrawn sometimes. Aikido is certainly about weapons, but just as much it is about mitigating others' ability to escalate by introducing those weapons, the way I see it.
@2artee
@2artee 2 жыл бұрын
I am sure the video is inyteresting but the music DURING the speach makes it really hardto understand.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a mistake on my part, sorry.
@MD-ib4ix
@MD-ib4ix 2 жыл бұрын
If you are forced to initiate an attack in Aikido, then the preference is to use a weapon. It seems. What if no weapon is available? The unarmed strikes still mimic weapons ????
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but if you're a person who thinls first and foremost about self preservation- you will likely always have a weapon.
@MD-ib4ix
@MD-ib4ix 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChuShinTani Thank-you for the response. Love your show - I have not done any Aikido. May I ask for a show on this subject sometime? Eg what kind of weapon? One again thanks for the response.
@jonathanmyers3524
@jonathanmyers3524 2 жыл бұрын
Many of these techniques are effective if the aggressor thinks you *may* have a weapon.
@dobo9150
@dobo9150 2 жыл бұрын
Hein-sensei, as a follow-on to this, have you had any success teaching Aikido's main empty-hand attacks as moves toward a clinch or grappling situation? E.g. using yokomenuchi to initiate a collar tie, using tsuki to initiate an arm drag or take the back, using an atemi strike to frame out of a grapple like some styles of nikkyo almost achieve.
@okami433
@okami433 2 жыл бұрын
The technique i want to see is YONKYO. That's the most "strange thing" that Aikido has.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Join my patreon page and I'll make it for you! ( Patreon.com/christopherhein )
@themaverickblackbelt8054
@themaverickblackbelt8054 2 жыл бұрын
Millions of Karateka across Japan and the rest of the world attack same side lunging tsuki. 😅 I don't mean to call you out as this is avery practical explanation of otherwise esoteric Aikido practices. Also I'd share with you that as a kemudo-ja and as a Wado karate-ka, that both front foot front tanto stabbing attacks to jodan and tomikomi tsuki with a training blade (Nok knife) against even FMA guys hits about 9::10 times.😅 Don't discount that unnatural and odd tsuki so quickly!
@disobedienttiger6240
@disobedienttiger6240 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, I disagree. It is wrong to suggest that the 3 strikes that we use to initiate an attack make a student proficient in unarmed striking, let alone constitute training in knife work. It is also wrong to suggest that any martial art (including my brother shotokan) can teach someone to defend against knife attacks without the knowledge of how a knife is really used in combat. A knife in combat is very different that a fist.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
We don't disagree- I make no claim that this will make you proficient at anything. I'm simply saying that this is why the attacks look the way they look.
@andywoodsman4909
@andywoodsman4909 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow this is so strange concept for a lot of aikido practitioners. I think aikido feels most natural when defending self with knife in sparring.
@billh.1940
@billh.1940 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot most important weapon! You brain's!
@koden24
@koden24 2 жыл бұрын
Hiji shime
@dominickbarzini5104
@dominickbarzini5104 2 жыл бұрын
Talked way too much
@lsporter88
@lsporter88 2 жыл бұрын
Finally...a video (and Teacher), who explains this perfectly. Bravo.
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support!
@A.SimonsensKanal
@A.SimonsensKanal 2 жыл бұрын
Best video on Aikido I've ever seen. Here's finally somebody concentrating on what is fundamental and important. (Instead of all these discussions on whether Aikido would work or not in MMA). Illuminating and absolutely convincing!
@ChuShinTani
@ChuShinTani 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!
@judojeff69
@judojeff69 2 жыл бұрын
Too many rules in M.M.A they're no rules in AIKIDO. Ever heard the expression Jack of all trades master of none? 😁
@JSMinstantcoaching
@JSMinstantcoaching 2 жыл бұрын
As a shodan former aikido practitioner, now involved in bjj the concept of small weapons use make more sense than sword and seems more logical.
@whiteraven24
@whiteraven24 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen few people talk about this, but a large piece of aiki as a concept is lost without the tension that shows up when the hand is gripping a weapon. For instance, Nikyo can be a hard technique to really feel as a beginner when applying it to an open, loose hand. Yet it is very easy to feel when the same hand/forearm is tight due to gripping a weapon. Similarly, the necessary outward energy for more of the circular/spiral moves like shihonage starts to show up because knife-wielding uke is trying to keep the pointy end away from them, but such energy makes no sense empty-handed.
@Sabumnim666
@Sabumnim666 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation if only many so called real fighters and others who do not actually know real martial arts could or would stop to ponder the techniques they see on videos etc. I am sure their ill informed opinions of arts such as Aikido and Hapkido would change. For example almost none realise that rolling or break falling is a self defense technique where if they resisted then the most probably answer would be a broken or seriously hurt limb or neck etc.
@eisbombenterror
@eisbombenterror 2 жыл бұрын
Kumi uchi - a term that I haven't heard for at least 25 years... Another term that I miss is defintely "atemi".
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