Songbirds & Snakes is actually really funny

[@Zoethechoirkid]

“Look at that, they’re holding hands. I want them dead” will never fail to be funny to me

[@xdaisy3408]

Ikr

[@emerycorner]

i bursted out laughing during a rewatch yesterday and my moms sideyed me

[@Grey_3438]

Me seeing couples in high school

[@yoongiverse.]

it’s giving… what kinda dress is she gonna wear? floggings. what’s the cake gonna look like? executions. who’s gonna be there? fear.

[@tumblingartist]

2:52

[@atlasschmatlas6426]

Tom Blyth does just never blink

[@ugh_izzy]

hed make a perfect wednesday

[@burnedpotatoes720]

Like a snake indeed.

[@r3nhonjo]

i think he blinked a total 3 times in the movie

[@Lu.9]

Its blue eyed ppl

[@GH0ULF41RY]

The male version of Wednesday 😭 ​@@ugh_izzy

[@jonise9223]

snow firing that riffle was so americacore 🦅

[@lowbudgetfries9127]

red white and blue🗣️🗣️🗣️💥💥💥(im canadian)

[@hello-lz4xj]

i mean, it's in north america, mostly the usa, what did you expect? british middle schoolers?

[@Elscrian]

OOO RAH

[@aliciab.7576]

and with that haircut 😭I'm so sorry

[@Lulu_Loves_Sheep]

'Murica🦅

[@andrewwa]

YOU TRYNA KILL ME?? LUCY GRAY LUCY GRAAYYYY I SAID ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL ME

[@ZtheTaco]

I almost laughed while watching it in theatres 💀

[@CheesiestChez]

Bro If Lucy Gray really was picking berries and other herbs she def not coming back after that

[@JaninaDeniseTorralba]

"IS THAT POISONOUS???" Coriolanus Snow look me in the eye and tell me you deserve the Plinth Prize without knowing the difference between poisonous and venomous

[@Chanberry0]

AFTER EVERYTHING IV'E DONE FOR YOU *starts cryin cutely*

[@xxqueenmiraculous2171]

Laughed for the whole forest scene in theatres. Everyone was looking at me weird.💀

[@yarenkuyumcu9789]

The way Tom barely ever blinks is so concerning 😭

[@Ali-mv3jc]

I wonder whether it was a character choice or if he's just like this in life.

[@yarenkuyumcu9789]

@@Ali-mv3jc well ı watched some of his promo videos for Billy the Kid and believe it or not in one of them he was directly speaking to the camera with eye contact to the viewers and he just blinked once in like 5 minutes it was so scary 😭so ı guess this is him in real life,too.

[@hungariangiraffe6361]

​@@yarenkuyumcu9789I don't know if it's true or not, but in the series Criminal Minds it's said that not blinking is a way of intimidating others, usually displayed by charismatic leaders. So it's definitely in character for Snow.

[@chaolinfantas]

i think it’s an acting technique…if the actor controls their blinking it makes it easier for the editor to cut

[@caroline2215]

​@@hungariangiraffe6361you're so real for criminal minds part btw

[@teejay5432]

Noticed how Snow laughed maniacally at 11:24 when he was bitten by the snake just like he laughed when Katniss shot Coin. He's nuts

[@sparker938]

So true!

[@thequaffletimes]

In the book it describes him as "Laughing at the irony that they're having their own person Hunger Games together" And that line still haunts me

[@emilykie8874]

The reason why Snow doesn’t lie is because he’s fucking bad at it. Boy really tried to play a “The old Taylor can’t come to the phone right now.. why? Oh, cause she’s dead!” deadass and expected Lucy Gray to believe him like be so for real

[@sh4tt3r3dw1ngs]

NAW FR like saying you killed your past self is fine theres a lot of poetry about that concept but once you kill ACTUAL people, counting your past self as a kill doesnt count no more😭😭 like he couldve said "in the dark days before the hunger games someone was attacking me and my cousin for our food and i accidentally killed him in self defense" OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AT LEAST THAT WOULDVE BEEN MORE BELIEVABLE 😭

[@BaharHajikhani-te4ww]

So Damn True 😂😂😂

[@atree4487]

He literally could have just said he killed someone during the war in self defense. That shit would be so much more believable. But no, he decided to be stupid

[@thefeminineprince]

"i'm just sending water!!!" "it's her singing! it's calming them!" LMAOOO

[@hello-lz4xj]

in the cinema, when he said, "is this poisonous," i was like, "it's venomous, not poisonous, venomous, oh my gods"

[@fatalposiie]

Omg same 😭 Im so happy im not the only one

[@elgronewald]

Boy didn’t get to do his survival training yet 😂

[@tafsinatazrian9283]

oh my gods is so Percy Jackson

[@hello-lz4xj]

@@tafsinatazrian9283 :D I'm a geek

[@tafsinatazrian9283]

@@hello-lz4xj haha same here

[@StarrChild.]

I always thought Snow cried after Sejamus was hanged because he truly didn't believe his parents would let him die. They threw money at every problem so I think Snow thought they could throw money at this one. Movie Snow tho, book Snow didn't give a fuck

[@birdobirbo9663]

Lol fr, book snow was like damn good riddance

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

The lack of inner thoughts really made Snow look like a normal person

[@juliadebbesay9465]

i loved the background details in this movie, lemme give y’all a list: 1. Treech sleeping next to Lamina despite betraying her the day before. 2. Tanner smiling whilst brandy kills arachne. 3. Mizzens hands being too small to choke teslee. 4. Persephone(mizzens mentor) laughing as pup gets the crying Lamina as a tribute. 5. Mizzen yelping as Coral says ”you’re all useless”.

[@juliadebbesay9465]

also at 7:08 we can see that Treechs donations are high but barely used, which is a sort of callback to the books where he just stole other tributens donations instead

[@euvonnechua]

in which scene do you see Treech sleeping next to Lamina?

[@juliadebbesay9465]

@@euvonnechua when they are waking the tributes up for the games, u can see Treech being dragged up next to lamina

[@mkcult4194]

where is no.3?

[@King.Of.Antlers]

Also when those 2 boys chased Lamina up the cornucopia during the blood bath when Lucy grey was nearly got hit by corals trident

[@MoonlightBrillance]

Coryo casually being punched by a random guy is so funny😭 7:56

[@MLBedits4U-bc1sp]

fr i always found it funny how he just ranodmly gets punched and then hes like "???"

[@elistari1050]

Remember who the real enemy is. Our horniness.

[@kasumiayanami4501]

During Part 3: The Peacekeeper where Snow got his head shaved I was like, "BRUH, why he look like Eminem?!" 😭😭😭

[@gryffindorgirl1009]

Paneminem

[@cantthinkofone1911]

When I saw the trailers I lowk thought he was in this movie

[@nishkapai2043]

She left Snow alone for like 2 minutes and this is what he got up to

[@Your_fav_cheese87]

he's like toddler who can't be left alone

[@awkward.loud.entity]

sejanus, about to d*e: “‘we’re brothers’ he says. ‘i’ll keep you safe’ he says.” lucy gray, hiding behind a tree: “‘you can trust me,’ he says. ‘i love you,’ he says.”

[@Nimblescape]

No idea why, but Peter patting that one students' elbow had me DYING in the theatre

[@ZtheTaco]

10:56 "I feel responsible for Sejanus's death" THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK EVERY TIME I READ THE BOOK (and when I watched the movie ofc) LIKE BRO ITS NOT THAT HARD💀💀💀

[@xdaisy3408]

The only reason bro was crying was because he thought he was gonna be next

[@andpeg]

I mean in the books, Lucy’s tone and the context was way different so I could at least understand it. In the movie, he was so dumb for that 🫠

[@yoongiverse.]

Oh my god I’m so glad you added the YOU CAN KISS MY AAAAAASS part because I couldn’t stop laughing in the theater

[@braedenbaker2880]

Me neither. Love that part

[@bandgnome47]

7:56 i’m deceased i never realized that’s what she said in the background while corio is casually beating up billy taupe 💀

[@tbh1787]

ikr I just watched the movie yesterday and I paid attention to what she was saying and I was rolling 😭

[@hello-lz4xj]

but why are all the actors so GORGEOUS? also rachel made lucy gray a million times more iconic. like, "help her! help her!" why don't you help your daughter, dude? and the way she was just like, snake, goodbye :)

[@hello-lz4xj]

a lot of people are gonna disagree with me on this, but this was the best movie of the 2020s so far. it's my favorite movie in a while

[@julianatalia9946]

Yeeees❤

[@MoonlightBrillance]

Same!

[@jupitersecIipse]

this one and avatar way of water for me

[@JoyceJuarez-dj6cg]

Same!!

[@King.Of.Antlers]

9:57 WAS FOUL... AND THEN HIM JUST CRYING RIGHT AFTER😭😭😭

[@Grey_3438]

10:55 man you can see it on her face, Lucy Gray did not believe a WORD Snow was saying ✋🏾😭💀

[@lauraa.2594]

OH MY HECK literally like dude it would not have been hard to say "Oh I just can't help but feel responsible for Sejanus' death because we were so close and I should've protected him," like TECHNICALLY NOT LYING? DUDE? Snow is so stupid lmfao

[@brianbommarito3376]

11:58 This part means nothing. Evil people can cry, but it’s usually for themselves. And it can be hard, even impossible, for us to tell who they are crying for.

[@kurtskrow]

But it’s funny.

[@Chanberry0]

​@@kurtskrow💀💀💀💀

[@FaithBetta]

In the books it’s clear he’s crying because he knows if they discover his connection to Sejanus then he’s next. It’s a pity cry not a mourning cry

[@vitoriamagalhaes476]

Just watching this i got a feeling that snow is a narcissistic person with sociopath traits, like he tries to appear normal, but fails and I do think he embrace his darkness when he gets older. Or he's just a psychopath, psychopaths can be narcissistic too sooo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Chanberry0]

@@vitoriamagalhaes476 you are totally correct👍👍

[@controlplusc27]

Random dude punching Snow in the pub always crack me up.

[@hello-lz4xj]

lucy gray is iconic and coriolanus is done with everything. and yes, tigris is adorable

[@auxrey6214]

I think he did actually kill his old self like I know he’s lying, but I think her reaction is more realizing that his old self is what she wants from him and not this new power-hungry person really doesn’t feel any real emotion towards her anymore.

[@mzernner.a]

“I’m just sending… WaTeR” LOL

[@biblelovergirl]

i love how you noticed some details from the background that i have not seen before lmaoooo learned a lot from this vid

[@RemyDarling]

There is always some DRUNK or STONED person in the movies/books. And this movie, despite being absolutely HEARTBREAKING, is POWERFUL and HILARIOUS in it's own way. lol Also, I can't stop laughing at "Hi, this cage is delightful." DUDE. lolol Also, him having the NERVE to be jealous of her sharing food with Jessop. Like GTFO, man. THE NERVE OF THIS MAN. And I'm just going to say, YOU PUT PEOPLE IN CAGES, THEY ARE GOING TO ACT LIKE ANIMALS. That woman was teasing her OWN tribute. She got what she freaking deserved.

[@FutureBereaAlumn]

Not me wondering why they went with the take where Hunter said “Panum”

[@natashapaul554]

the thinking you're so fine gets me every time

[@maifilms]

10:29 the logic of the placement reminds me of that part in hsm 1 in the school bathroom where sharpay walks away from the sinks toward the door behind a partial wall and after she leaves, gabriella comes out of hiding behind the wall bUT FROM THE SAME SIDE AS THE SINKS WHICH MEANS SHARPAY WOULDVE SEEN HER

[@Ali-mv3jc]

I saw a video where someone went to the bathroom that they used in the film to test the hypothesis 😭

[@Juliyuhh]

8:08 THE SOUND EFFECTS HELP

[@remiethecat]

plz 8:56 had me kicking my feet and giggling like a mad woman. im so torn cause finnick is sam caflin but snow is tom blyth and theyre mortal panenimies but both too gorgeous

[@heyysophie9928]

PANENIMIES LMAOOOOO

[@Louisemb2007]

"Snow, probably." 🤣🤣🤣

[@WandaMaximoff1998]

8:00 this right here is when my resolve broke, I tried so hard not to like Snow but that’s hot and I don’t make the rules

[@WandaMaximoff1998]

@DEVII__xx it’s def bad, honey, no you can’t 😭

[@WandaMaximoff1998]

@DEVII__xx noooooooooo

[@purplepinkblue18364]

im trying, finnick, i really am 😭😭

[@xdaisy3408]

I think he felt betrayed by Lucy and he tried to kill her because he suddenly realised he couldn’t trust her and that he thought that she had an ulterior motive. But Snow was manipulative and did everything that benefitted him so he also killed her to tie off some loose ends.

[@vampyyrezz]

In the book, she doesn’t say “besides me” referring to snows loose ends. Instead, as soon as he sees the guns, he realizes he could go back to the capitol if he destroys them. And that he was okay with leaving her all alone and abandoning her. She leaves him alone for minute to pick katniss, and that’s when he decides she’s the last loose end. This man was a hardcore narcissist, who only cared about himself, and that lead to extreme paranoia, which is why even though Lucy never did anything to make him not trust her, he still ended up betraying her anyways, deciding to kill her.

[@tompearce5418]

The sheer irony of the future President Snow being the one arguing for humane treatment of the tributes.

[@TheLegendaryMovieCritic]

The sound effects during the music brawl sent me!

[@Sky-gd7cw]

That scene where snow is swarmed by mockingjays has the same feel when Katniss was swarmed by the jabberjays in catching fire.

[@Sxlly-to1pe]

The "Enjoy the show" part, I was dying

[@elisecobb1528]

No one gonna talk about him looking at that picture upside down? 12:44

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Something I will say I appreciate in the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and the regular Hunger Games films is that the firearms develop alongside their actual counter parts irl meaning in Ballad they are using HK G3s (actually looks more like the earlier Spanish CETME rifle) but I’m especially the Mockingjay films District 13 is using HK G36Cs the successor to the HK G3, also I guess that means the company Heckler and Koch exists and it’s an American company and not German.

[@gryffindorgirl1009]

9:02 I also noticed that they changed where in the plot Pure As The Driven Snow is. HUGE SPOILER WARNING(although if you are watching this video, you already know what happens) In the book, Sejanus is hung and then Coriolanus has his emotional breakdown and then goes to The Hob and Lucy Gray sings Pure As The Driven Snow.

[@brianbommarito3376]

9:04 You’re quite right. And though he’s a manipulative piece of trash, I do believe he had some form of respect (respect, mind you, never love, because ones like Snow are incapable of feeling love when it’s against their own selfish interests) for Lucy, and he would’ve given her the decency to hear her out. Think of it as the decency an evil man might give to a prisoner before he has them shot by allowing them to express their last wishes. He saw something of Lucy’s spirit later in Katniss, and this made him respect her to a certain degree. But, even respect is not enough when that person who is respected becomes an obstacle, or even a threat, to a person like Coriolanus Snow. Indeed, if an enemy respects you, they are more likely to use double-barreled shotguns on you, because they want to win and they don’t want to make it easy for you to beat them.

[@z2yn]

A lot of people say the movie softened him from his book counterpart - they both even each other out. I saw this as a clever way of the movie being aware of the limited time and thus deciding to make a greater foreshadowing into their break-up and his descent into dark territory. Him leaving during his song demonstrates that he doesn't care for music (like the book focused on) and he loves her less than he cares about his self-preservation. Also his focus on Sejanus side-activities. There's some form of care and love he has for them in both book and movie, but what ruins it is that Sejanus and Lucy Gray are free-spirited and in parts optimistic. Coriolanus is not.

[@nyom6378]

While I think Snow did love Lucy, I do not think it was a healthy form of love. His parents died, his grandma probably loved him but she didnt show it, Tigris did love him but it's clear he took her for granted. And any form of love he might've showed to Lucy Gray wasn't love but in reality manipulation, because manipulation can also have tender moments like when they kissed or swam in the river. I haven't read the book but I'm basing my interpretations from movie Snow. But I also think he wasn't manipulating her on purpose, often manipulators don't realize they're acting that way. And this is not to say that he's innocent and he was just influenced, not at all. But I think that with Lucy Gray it was an exceptionally toxic relationship from his part. He probably didn't realize that and if he did, he didn't care at all. If Lucy Gray had stayed, he would've killed her anyway eventually. I think he loved her genuinely, but his genuine form of love was poison.

[@Your_fav_cheese87]

Flickerman was about to have a mental breakdown more and more into this movie

[@nyxldx]

YOU WERE SPILLING FACTS ABOUT MAKING HIM LEAVE WHILE LUCY GRAY WAS SINGING PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW. MOST OOC THING THE MOVIE MADE HIM DO ISTG

[@kenyattaharmon1385]

It’s been a while since I’ve shipped a couple so hard. They had so much Chemistry. ‘Why’d you have to go crazy Snow’

[@DehCookiPleb]

When you think more about Part III, you realise that if Coriolainus didn't record Sejanus' plan and send it to DR Gaul, he never would've said "Three's enough for me" in the woods. Only two. Which then means there's a chance him and Lucy would've been fine and could've lived their lives Together up North. ...mostly, anyway. Y'know they'd just have to find a way around the whole "Lucy being a loose end" thing.

[@Ivypool123]

this is so funny😂😂😂 sorry i forgot who the real enemy is he is too beautiful😭

[@ComedyPlastic]

I'd watch the movie just because he's cute (which is something I've never said ever)

[@Ivypool123]

@@ComedyPlastic same😭

[@murderdepotpod]

I love how the screens are just floating heads spinning in circles

[@Murderdrones132]

3:55 I cant the way treech and lamina just sit on the rock☠️

[@Crxem]

THIS LITERALLY MADE ME LAUGH 🤭

[@peytonmcmillen6242]

"Were brothers I will keep you safe" next scene......

[@abigailcastle3397]

"Is that poisonous?" "No, it may be venomous though."

[@WandaMaximoff1998]

9:02 It’s okay to say you’re right, say it louder for the people in the back 👏

[@sridevibolla5368]

Tom not blinking at all Nobody: Wednesday Who?

[@BabyBlondie311]

11:28 No but it could be venomous 😂

[@hello-lz4xj]

"pasty" and sir you need to blink, i agree

[@thewitchsidekick3586]

I love how swooning for corio at 6:56 is a collective experience

[@brianbommarito3376]

9:13 I disagree that it was love. He may have had feelings for her, but it wasn’t love. Maybe respect. Maybe sympathy or pity. Maybe the knowledge that he is stomping on a person’s heart makes him do it. The first person you hurt or even kill is always the hardest, because you still have something of a conscience left in you. But after that it becomes easier and easier, until you’re like Snow as an old man and can do it effortlessly. But I cannot believe it is love, because true love never does such things as he is capable of doing to her. Love does not manipulate people for self-gain.

[@kurtskrow]

I actually love this conversation and wanted to discuss it with someone. When I say these words PLEASEEEE do not think I’m saying them with aggression or anything. I just love talking about Hunger Games and Snow since he’s so complex. I believe Snow loved Lucy Gray in his own sick twisted way. The novel makes a point as to why he is the way he is. Snow happens to be selfish and manipulative because of how he was raised. He’s obsessed with power, money, and control due to his upbringing: he is a product of his environment. The novel tells you that Snow was once pure, Tigris saying that when he was a child he was very happy and wouldn’t even hurt a fly. So we know that he wasn’t born evil, however he became evil because of his life. We also know that Tigris did everything she could to keep the good inside of him, often giving him life advice, and he would oblige because he trusted Tigris. In the novels it’s explained that Snow was born in the middle of a war (correct me if I’m wrong). He watched his own neighbor cut off a leg of a corpse and proceed to eat it. He watched his own mother die in childbirth, watched his little sister die after. He then had to hide underground cause his house got bombed, etc etc. Snow has been through A LOT. All from the ages of 1-10 years old. Which are very important years. He also explains that throughout his life, the Capitol- or Panem has just been this big bundle of chaos. Not once did he ever experience true control, which he needs because without control- to Snow at least, chaos will reign. This is why he is so extreme, and in my opinion manipulative, because he NEEDS that power and control, without it, society will be lost. At least in his mind. Due to his environment, he becomes sociopathic. He’s not pure evil though, I’d say he’s broken. Snow is inward, not outward. The way he thinks the way he functions, almost everything he does is selfish and is always inward. However with Lucy Gray? It’s not. The novel states that Snow CANNOT risk his future, his whole life depends on this plinth prize, his house, his grandma’am health, Tigris’ future, everything depends on this Plinth prize. He says he can’t risk anything, nothing will get in his way. But when it came to Lucy Gray? Without even thinking he just risked his own future for her like it was instinctive. The bastard risked his OWN future for her, he ruined his OWN future for her. That’s why him cheating is so significant, because the whole entire book up until he cheats. He repeatedly mentions how he needs a clean slate, a clean book so he can help his family. However he throws this all away instinctively to protect and to help Lucy Gray, which speaks volumes. Snow would never do that unless he was genuinely in love with someone. Snow also risks his own academic grades as well for Lucy Gray, which he states he can’t do that cause he needs the Plinth prize. In the novel it is said that if Snow sneaks academy food to Lucy Gray, he will be expelled. And he does it anyways. Not just this but he even gives Lucy Gray his mothers compact which is a HUGE DEAL. The novel states that this belonged to his mother. And Snow adores his mother. The very memories of his mother is able to calm him down, telling the reader that he holds her at a high regard. That he truly loves his mother. He never let anyone touch his mother’s compact, it was the last thing of his mother and even Snow says he wishes he took after his mother because she was so gorgeous. When someone insults his mother he immediately becomes enraged because he holds her with such high regard. So the fact that he gave his mother’s compact to Lucy Gray? That shows that he really did trust her, believe in her, and well- love her. As he gave the most precious thing he had to her. Not just this but when it is revealed that Snow destroyed everything of his past, including his mother’s compact, it’s significant because it tells the reader/viewer that Snow genuinely has changed. No longer is there good contained, he is evil, and will now embrace it. In the novel Snow even has a moment where he realizes what he’s doing is wrong. The way he’s behaving, he’s becoming like his father. Someone who he basically hates due to how cold and dismissive his father was. Snow vows to never become that way, and when he realizes he’s becoming the very thing he hates. He actually does try to make an effort to change. I forget what he says exactly but it’s in PART III when he becomes a peacekeeper, he just all around realizes he’s a piece of shit and has to change, and Lucy Gray is his motive. It’s part of the reason why he leaves with Lucy Gray, because he realizes how awful he’s becoming (correct me if I’m wrong). I’ll also add the point I brought up earlier. Where Snow shields Lucy Gray with his body. This may seem like nothing but for Snow this is A LOT. In the novel it states that Snow would never risk his life for ANYONE, let alone someone who he believes is underneath him. He would never risk his own life for someone else’s, this point is also brought up in the Novel Mockingjay, when he and Katniss are conversing, Snow straight up tells Katniss that he would leave the capitol citizens to die and get bombed by the rebels if it meant he could escape. So him shielding someone with his body, willing to DIE for someone, is very significant and only someone who is truly and deeply important to him would bring this emotion out. He even does it instinctively as well. Protecting Lucy Gray to Snow, is just instinct, why? Because he loves her. He sees her as good, as the only good thing in this world so he wants to protect it. Similar to how Katniss falls in love with Peeta because to her, Peeta is good, he is the only good thing in this world (not saying Katniss and Snow are the same). Snow, even though he is a sociopath. He can love. It is a sick and twisted kind of love, where usually he just wants control. But it is love, he loved her in his own sick twisted manipulative controlling way. Him betraying Lucy Gray makes sense in HIS view (not saying what he did was good, Snow’s fucking crazy) but to him. What he did to Lucy Gray makes sense? Why? Because he was able to convince himself that she tried to kill him. In the novels when Snow is aiming for Lucy Gray, that whole segment is trippy as hell, and it’s read in a way where he was hallucinating that she was NEVER there. The whole entire thing he is experiencing is confusing as hell because he’s hallucinating. In his mind, Lucy Gray tried to poison him with a snake, so he shoots at her because this convinces him that she is trying to kill him. This is why he aims at her without a moments notice, because in his mind, she is aiming for him, so he has to get rid of her. In HIS POINT OF VIEW it makes sense. But as the reader and viewer it makes you realize that he’s fucking crazy and what he’s doing isn’t just at all. But because he’s so delusional and crazy, he believes it’s just. Another thing I’ll mention, but Snow sitting with Lucy Gray and having picnics with her also proves how he loves her. He didn’t care if people saw that he saw Lucy Gray as an equal. As long as she was somewhat happy around him, he just didn’t care. While having these picnics he would also reveal his childhood and past to her, he’d tell her how his family was in financial trouble, how he never had much to eat cause of how poor his family was etc etc. which- like I said speaks volumes in how much he trusts her. The fact that he’s willing to tell Lucy Gray that he himself is poor as hell, has nothing to eat, and his life is in shambles? Is absolutely INCREDIBLE because he only tells this to her and nobody else. Literally nobody else but Lucy Gray. Snow cares so much about how he is perceived and seen, but with Lucy Gray he just tells her the truth, he just wipes that facade away, which tells you how much love he has for her. Not to mention, the novel pretty much does confirm he loved her. In the epilogue it says, and I quote: *“Sometimes he would remember a moment of sweetness and almost wish things had ended differently. But it would never have worked out between them, even if he’d stayed. They were simply too different. And he didn’t like love, the way it had made him feel stupid and vulnerable. If he ever married, he’d choose someone incapable of swaying his heart. Someone he hated, even, so they could never manipulate him the way Lucy Gray had. Never make him feel jealous. Or weak. Livia Cardew would be perfect.”* So yeah, I believed he loved her in his own sick twisted way. The movie does a pretty decent job at showing us his inner dialogue, Tom Blyth at showing us how Snow is feeling with his eyes especially at the end when he’s just so detached from society and is empty as hell. But still, the movie does a bad job at showing us why Snow loved Lucy Gray. Since their romance feels so rushed (imo). Am I defending Snow? No. I won’t ever defend him. Yeah he’s broken but it doesn’t excuse the fact that he killed thousands of district kids, and destroyed district 12, etc etc. he’s an atrocious person and I’m glad he died. But, I love him as a character. He’s written wonderfully. - I’m not spell checking this.

[@Ali-mv3jc]

I dunno, I think he loved her but he also felt like he kind of owned her if that makes sense? He loved her in his own fucked up way I think.

[@ginnig9848]

​@@kurtskrow Hi...and just, wow. Thanks for writing this

[@finnfasty2347]

@@kurtskrowI agree with most you’re saying (and wow thank you for the pages you wrote), but I think when Snow fled District 12 with Lucy Grey, he did it mostly because he was afraid of getting caught with the weapons not out of love for Lucy grey.

[@vitoriamagalhaes476]

I think of him as a narcissist, I think Lucy was interesting for him at the beginning and he simply decided that he wanted and needing her? Like, he gets jealous over dumb things and acts very irrational when things are about her, what he feels for her is to possesive and that moment when she performed a song for him was like a confirmation that he finally had her and he just walks out like "my job is done" he sees her as a thing and the scene at the forest when he's going nuts for me shows that even better, he accused Lucy of trying to kill him when she wasn't even there, really getting paranoid, and saying like "how could you, after everything I did for you" just screamed narcissist for me

[@Dignified_Deviant]

THE EDITED SOUNDS OVER 8:08 IM SCREAMING

[@r3nhonjo]

8:57 i never wanted to be lucy gray so bad

[@abigailsaunders5759]

it really made me forget who the real enemy is

[@refikaduru_]

i'm just sending water???

[@LeticiaGarcia-mw4nh]

I't nos poisonous... might be venomous, though! 😂 (If you bite it and you die it's poisonous, if it bites you and you die it's venomous)

[@Trkzportakal]

And İf you bite each other and none of you die It's kinky

[@Liv_Luv_Sundy]

11:48 My parents fr 😭😭☠️

[@gennyrose5047]

I watched this movie 2 days ago and I loved it! I read the books too and I know a lot of stuff was not put in but overall it made sense to me ❤

[@RvB_Fan_since_8]

9:05 yeah you right

[@liplu8660]

your so real for this

[@purplemaymay5137]

Yea, snow lands on top of me- REMEMBER WHI THE REAL ENEMY IS 😭😭😭

[@br1n0o0o]

Everything in this movie is perfect: the cast, the plot, the characters, the songs.

[@BaharHajikhani-te4ww]

I still think snow killed her and it was her body she found at the end of the footsteps and sank down with the guns. He just didn't wanna remember that.

[@DaytimeMoon09]

1:40 no but his little smirk here 😏

[@najrenchelf2751]

6:00 - that is an incredible scream by her!

[@Michmackpaddywack12]

7:58 💀💀💀💀💀STOP OH MY GOD

[@maycdamouse9186]

He started his villain era at the end 🤭

[@-Lynxfeather-]

Just noticed Treech saying “GeT oFf MeHhh” at 2:24 XD Poor Mizzen tho lol

[@ZK2001-n1f]

This video made me cackle multiple times thank you so much

[@heynotizzy7493]

LUCY GRAY!?!?!? WE CAN RATATATATALK ABOUT THIS!!!!

[@riley6185]

Maude Ivory is Maude Ivorying =))))))) Dude that's hilarious I don't know why =)))

[@CrazyCass]

9:35 - 9:50 That gave me American Football coach vibes fr

[@danielcollins9021]

i never noticed that last thing, like where is he going at the end of the

[@theelvenjedi7045]

7:57 ive listened to this line a couple times and its defo "I swear I will get a snake and I will *drop* it right down-" NOT "I will *rock* it right down-" cause that makes no sense lmao 😂 she dropped the snake down Mayfair's dress at the reaping so she's threatening to do the same to Billy Taupe if he doesn't f off lol😊

[@mckenziepearmain]

i’m cackling rn this was so well put together 😭

[@dreaming_destiny675]

9:04 I completely agree! Imo it's better portrayed in the books, both when he made such a big deal out of it and then when she actually sang the song. I wish they hadn't changed it...

[@ashieandizzzy]

Tommy is so dam hot

[@ariannadavici]

They basically obliterated Livia and gave her personality to Arachne

[@br1n0o0o]

My eyes are hurting to see him not blinking

[@CrazyCass]

Everyone I see Corio staking out the ruined colosseum at night I do actually think he has a newspaper boy outfit.

[@emerycorner]

I had to rewatch all the other movies so I could remember Old Evil Man Snow, and not Almost Evil Young Man Snow.

[@BaharHajikhani-te4ww]

What are you talking about? In the book lucy gray sang PATDS only after both Mayfair and Billy Taupe were killed. After which she wanted to say goodbye 👋

[@kurtskrow]

@@BaharHajikhani-te4ww yeah I mixed up my dates with that. That was my mistake.

[@ameenaquthb7331]

GOD YOUR EDITING HAS ME DEADDD 💀💀😭😭

[@Alec_____]

Snow my beloved

[@beth9134]

Flickerman was the funniest character prove me wrong

[@Jojoflowers714]

Lamina literally looks like my advanced math teacher 😭😭😭😭😞😞