Sonic 06 (Part 1) - Sonic Was Always Good

[@Hectoreo]

Sometimes, I wonder about where the sonic franchise would be today had things turned out differently here. Cause there's no denying that this game did damage to the franchise that's still felt today, not to mention all of the changes that occurred, for better and for worse. As much as Ii love the boost formula, I really hope Frontiers can provide a meaningful shake-up and finally give people faith in sonic games again.

[@Voltricity435]

Now that it's out, what do you think of frontiers?

[@bridge-moonproductions6823]

I’m just expecting every video to start with “You know, people say this game has a lot of problems… but I actually think it’s pretty ok!” 😏

[@Pariah6950]

Sadly that is the case for so many Sonic games. This is why I lamented in my Heroes video about getting a game that is just all around good without any major problems. There are some games like that, but so many more with issues. What a difficult series to enjoy lol.

[@Voltricity435]

@@Pariah6950 yup definitly. wish it wasn't the case. if i ever reccomend sonic i can only really reccomend they try gens, colors (i don't even like colors THAT much, but it's still a solid game that's pretty consistent in quality all the way through), sonic 2 or sonic 3k without having to give caveats, and if they like those they can check the rest of the series out

[@elmark3550]

@@Voltricity435 unleashed and mania are pretty polished I would say

[@jasperbriggs7591]

That’s just the Sonic fan conundrum really. I think pretty much every Sonic game (even the best ones) have some form of caveat(s). It’s a historically flawed series of games but the highs, you just can’t get enough.

[@Voltricity435]

@@elmark3550 unleashed is definitly a polished game and it's my 2nd favorite sonic game, but i'd still find it hard to reccomend for new people compared to the other sonic games i listed because of the werehog and required medals.e

[@TheYiffingAtheist]

The P-06 PC recreation showed me two things by taking away the glitches and shit controls: 1. I wasn't crazy for thinking there were fun aspects of the game. P-06 touches up and fixes a lot of problems, but the core level design and gameplay remains the same. 2. This is one of the harder Sonic games. In the original it was hard to tell when dying was your fault or caused by glitches.

[@aortaplatinum]

Eh I only ever found it about as difficult as SA2. The game could actually be made significantly harder by using the older style homing attack where you're still vulnerable during the animation. In 06, between the time you homing attack mid-jump, and the time when it connects with an enemy, you have invincibility frames.

[@Benjawin6671]

I have the utmost respect for ChaosX for turning a god awful Sonic game to a really fun one. That being said even the better things about 06 like its level design was done much better in both Adventure games. Sonic also controls better in both games.

[@jwall2235]

Instead of a new gameplay style, Frontiers should've used this game as its main inspiration. We could've got multiple playable characters if they did that

[@seematahir5970]

​@@Benjawin6671 I think Pariah did a pretty solid job in this vid of arguing why the level design in 06 is generally superior to both Adventure games and is more interesting to experiment with

[@Legoluigi26]

Sonic 06 is really the (il)logical extreme to Sonic's gameplay mantra of making the game more fun through practice. In most Sonic games, an inexperienced player on his or her first run may get frustrated for not going fast or getting a good rank, but will probably adjust to the controls and get a feel for all the other Sonic games with that gameplay style within a couple minutes to an hour. With this game, it will take even a seasoned gamer about the whole campaign to figure out the basic quirks of a character and once a player figures out a character, the reward is less "beating the level without stopping" and more "not dying to bs like falling through the floor". However, as the dificulty of gaining total mastery is greater, so too is the feeling of accomplishment for attaining that state. It not only feels good to overcome all the jank, but to tame it. Although some glitches will kill you for no good reason, others like the infinite gems, Silver's water bounce, and Omega's hover are super fun to use. Yes, one of my life goals is to Platinum Sonic '06, thanks for asking.

[@Pariah6950]

Well said. Though as someone that just 100%ed this game, don't. For your own good, it's not worth it.

[@bryanc7094]

Too bad the game is trash

[@nzpowa._.6662]

If i remember correctly sonic team made a dlc for sonic 06 on the xbox, that basically made you use a glitch with shadow and his chaos rage mode be a requirement for getting through apart of the dlc. Had something to do with a shield wall.

[@Legoluigi26]

@@nzpowa._.6662 That is true.

[@TheDrunkLawyer]

It’s the loading screen to single text box to another loading screen when you do town missions that break the pace, especially if you fail

[@ABlob]

Regarding rail grinding in 06: The little flips do speed you up the more you do it, it becomes very noticable after doing around 5 flips on rails (jumping off the rail resets everything, of course). However, if you spam the button, it punishes you by not letting you do flips for a while. So you actually need to wait a little and then press the button again, almost like there's a rhythm to it. There's no sign when you can press the flip button again, aside from looking into the lua scripts the game uses, or just having a feel of when you can press it again (usually a little after the flipping animation is over). So, yes, rail grinding 06 still sucks. But it's interesting lol

[@Pariah6950]

That is actually kinda cool. Similar to Jet Set Radio Future. Thanks for the info.

[@boiled_walrus6960]

The sound that played when you mentioned ring bombs is hilarious 😭

[@Yuginkai12]

The hat in time crows are coming in clutch fr

[@bills-beard]

11:10 sonic 06: completely fixes light speed dash also sonic 06: breaks literally everything else we fixed it, but at what cost

[@lasercraft32]

This would explain why they never try to fix it in later titles. The cost was too great so they left it broken. XD

[@gokublack9724]

Eh the lightdash still has problems, sometimes there's a trail of rings that you can't light dash for whatever reason and you could lightdash backwards which shouldn't be a thing

[@Norody]

16:41 scared the living soul out of me i thought i was hallucinating a demon 💀💀

[@theamazinggamers5948]

I literally had to double check that it was actually in the video

[@ohheck1443]

Watching you run through dusty desert and kingdom valley at the end was pretty mindblowing for me. I recently played P06 and had no idea there was that much variance and effort put into the level design of those stages. Really cool shit

[@schemar17]

tropical jungle also has a ton of multiple pathways as well

[@_JTC357]

Lol the entire portion of the budget for the move set must have been put into that beautiful light speed dash

[@sanglish18]

The thing of Tails and Rouge throwing ring bombs actually came from Sonic Heroes, but It's quite hard to use in that game since you have to be solo with them

[@Voltricity435]

oh i've been waiting for this. super interested to see the story video as well. great timing as i just finished watching all your other sonic videos yesterday

[@aortaplatinum]

One very subtle thing I noticed when revisiting this game [thanks to this video] is that it actually improved the homing attack a tiny bit. In SA1 through Shadow, when you homing attack, you're just throwing yourself through the air at an enemy, and if your timing is off, most enemies in 3D Sonic can shoot, so it's a very real possibility you can just get fuckin sniped out of the air. It's happened to me countless times. 06, however, actually fixed this, and gives you invincibility frames during your homing attack, which you can actually see at 24:42 where Sonic essentially clips through that Egg Gunner's missiles. This tweak is a very small part of why there can be so many enemies at once and yet it's not often you're killed by an enemy unless you're really not paying attention. And also SonicTeam probably just wanted to see how many polys and effects could be on screen at once on the newer hardware lol. So the lost, more finished builds of the game probably have even MORE enemies. Also playing this game after playing a lot of modern games... I don't see why people still shit on it. Most games released today are just as broken and shitty as 06 was, but they get patched after a few months so it's okay when they do it sweaty 💅💅

[@WeeAddy]

That ascent on the sand level up the wall with the homing attack chains is sick, I never found that - or even realised how much variable routes you could take on that level. Definitely gotta explore more next playthrough.

[@midnitecata]

i almost can't believe that they actually shipped the game out with so many issues, they have to load DIALOGUE.... but this IS sonic... one guy managed to beat SA2s hero story just in the time it took 06 to load

[@sh21dow]

16:41 man im dead wtf is that lmaaaaoooo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Harrinsain]

So often your videos teach me about things in these games I never knew about. Like holy shit, every review I've ever seen has completely ignored the sky gem, and my mind is blown. Super disappointing you only have 5K subs, your videos are some of the best on the site because you just get so in deep with elaborating on the practical applications of mechanics.

[@Dweble_pebble]

The coin joke... its evolving!

[@CJ2315]

Out of curiosity are you gonna speak a little about Sonic P-06 in your multi-part review at all? I think it does a fantastic job showing how great the game could have been.

[@mitch_universe4058]

Ever since I watched the game grumps’ series on this game, I’ve always wanted to play this game out of irony. Yesterday, I finally ordered the Xbox 360 version online. What amazing timing for your video

[@Devin11246]

They just added 06 back onto the Xbox 360 marketplace today for 5 dollars rip.

[@mitch_universe4058]

@@Devin11246 🗿

[@graysongdl]

Saw the notification and my first thought was "oh boy." But I know there's a PC port of the game that's supposedly pretty good, so I'm not too shocked by the idea of this game having... at least SOME merit if you fix the bugs. Also the Hat in Time reference was fantastic. 20:51 brought back an ancient memory from the depths of my brain, thank you for this.

[@tivvy2vs21]

I wish we could get the source code, if that happened there'd be a native port in a week

[@maskofthedragon]

4:39 How fucked the air control is perfectly shown in that it's impossible to go through that line of rings without spinning in circles

[@voidesper3788]

I'd been expecting this review. Looking forward to the next part and the story

[@AllardRT]

On the "why the hell would they waste time making hard versions of levels" - I think it's because the most broken thing about Sonic '06 isn't the level design, but the character physics and all the programming stuff, so while gameplay people were crunching that, the actual level designers didn't have much to do.

[@Norody]

@@AllardRT we got a pretty similar pfp

[@Metal-ZX]

LMAO​@@Norody

[@tivvy2vs21]

The bonking was actually supposed to be in sonic 2, it was implemented in the prototype

[@seagullmoe]

i'm laughing my ass off with the *babbling* boxes

[@DonutSwordsman]

I'm excited for the next part! Thanks for uploading!

[@Ultra04channel]

These videos are great honestly. They've given me a new perspective on a lot of different sonic games, and that's a really good thing tbh. I still don't know why "rings" is censored though.

[@IkinBBfromAnthologyOfTheKiller]

It's an inside joke

[@Devin11246]

You mean coins?

[@IkinBBfromAnthologyOfTheKiller]

@@Devin11246 He does

[@greenD7244]

the dummy (REDACTED) bombs actually come from Heroes. If you press the attack button as Tails (or Rouge) when he's solo and doesn't have access to his partners, he'll throw a few dummy (REDACTED)s.

[@sanchan5193]

Why are we redacting this I don't understand

[@townnn-biz]

I've been waiting for this.

[@thebombsquadtv6151]

have you tried the sonic 06 legacy of solaris mod? it’s like sonic 1 forever, it improves the physics and stuff. it’s the closest thing to an improved 06 without getting into fangame territory like the unleashed project or P-06

[@Pariah6950]

I haven't. A lot of what it adds doesn't particularly wow me. But I'll probably talk about it down the line. I plan on doing a dedicated Sonic mods video covering mods that substantially alter the games, rather than just enhance the original experience.

[@asciiangel7583]

@@Pariah6950 seems like xenia fixes a lot of problems, i’ll have 2 try it, but p-06 makes it very easy for ppl 2 access a more polished version of the game. n after they optimize more hopefully a lot more accessible as well

[@Pariah6950]

@@asciiangel7583 P06 is definitely better, for what's there. The issue is how much of the game is missing in that. It's not the full 06 experience, you know?

[@asciiangel7583]

@@Pariah6950 yea its true , i wonder how much of the hub world n such they want 2 implement by the end. 4 most ppl i think w shadow n sonic what they want is basically there

[@tivvy2vs21]

Someone also added the cut town missions and super hard mode

[@summerruby8436]

I appreciate how positive your videos always are. You talk about things you dislike and poke fun at things without ever feeling mean-spirited and you always find things you like. People are way too harsh on this game. It came out when I was 11 years old and I didn't know anyone thought it was bad for years lmao. Yeah, it's easy to see why people hated it. But as you said in the video, if you were used to playing 3d Sonic, you were just sort of used to taming a game's jank. So it definitely didn't stand out to me as uniquely awful at the time given that all the previous 3d Sonic games were my primary exposure to platformers.

[@justrobYT]

I remember renting this game back when that was a thing and being immensely disappointed. Everyone was slower, the controls were way too sensitive, the voice actors were different, the loading times were too long, and the game glitched the fuck out all the time. I just didn't understand why Sega let it happen, and I still don't.

[@Nic_2751]

Oh man, this is gonna be a huge 3 parter I can feel it

[@Ender-kk7gg]

28:24 This is a feature seen in really early builds of Sonic 2. Omitted probably because it was stupid and breaks the flow of your speed substantially, but for some reason, they implemented it into this game. smh!

[@___8241]

very fair and honest review. definitely subbing

[@orlandofurioso7329]

That subversion in the beginning earned you a sub, nice work. Also i disagree about the homing attack, it's probably the strongest since it makes you invincible unlike sa2 where enemies can hit you when using it.

[@anguset]

39:23 this game really makes you feel like Batman.

[@UkatoXDXY]

The most ambitious Sonic game is finally gaining attention

[@jestademon3524]

Ever heard of "Sonic P-06", a fan remaster of 06 by ChaosX.

[@UkatoXDXY]

@@jestademon3524 Yes, and is really a good remake

[@inkchariot6147]

I find this game more enjoyable than some boost games. The characters feel easier to control in this, and Sonic doesn't turn like a tank. It feels more like an action game than a 3D platformer. I enjoy learning how the game works, and learning how to exploit it.

[@sebastianmartinez5963]

There is a video that collects all the loading screens of the game and it lasts more than 2 hours. I don't have problems with loading screens, after all, it's something very normal in video games. But the problem with the Sonic 06's loading screens is precisely what you say in the video. When you're doing basically anything else in the game you will get loading screens back to back to back constantly thrown at you with very little gameplay in between and it absolutely destroying the pacing of the game, reaching the point that one gets tired of seeing the loading screens every so often. Of course, if you play Sonic 06 with mods, obviously that loading screen problem is will solved.

[@radicallaruby]

Never played 06. I've seen all the horrors of this game through videos, but I've always thought the level design at least was really good, in fact better than most other 3D Sonic games. I felt that as early as when they showed off the Kingdom Valley beta.

[@IkinBBfromAnthologyOfTheKiller]

I agree, and also never played it.

[@PersTG]

I've played it and I have to say the level design is real good

[@viljarkotsalainen9826]

The only problem with almost every level is that its designed to work with a slower sonic

[@sonic5993]

16:43 This took me the fuck out lol.

[@shunkun8668]

I've been binge watching your Sonic videos for the past week, and they've been really fun and informative I wonder if you would ever make a video of what would in your mind be the perfect Sonic game? How you would structure levels, what sort of gameplay styles would you like to have, what character and the themes of the story.

[@shunkun8668]

I only got into Sonic again a month ago, I only have vague memories of playing sonic 2 and 3 as a kid. I've play sonic1-4,cd,sa1,2 and a fangame called time twisted. Now I'm playing advance 1 and I'm liking it, but your videos make me wanna check out games I've hear bad things about just because they do sound like you can have fun even if the games are considered bad, or with enough mods

[@Pariah6950]

Hmm... I might try something like that one day. Of course I've thought about what I would do if I could make a Sonic game. If people would be interested to hear my bad ideas, I might share them.

[@shir0azure339]

@@Pariah6950 PLEASE, WE ARE VERY INTERESTED!

[@gamerdomain6618]

“Anti-gravity kick” “One weird thing about this move is that it lasts for an extremely long period of time…” It's it's almost like like the kick defies gravity. 🤯

[@SansINess53]

Sonic is fun.

[@laneplain107]

TIL Sonic 06 had DLC, but not a bug fix patch

[@wusstunes]

I'm sure you'll get into more of this later, but 06 feels like the last time a Sonic game really was an "event", besides maybe generations or mania. This was a game that was swinging for the fences the same way the adventure games had before. It's easy to write off a lot of its creative and narrative decisions, but it's disappointing that it also basically prompted Sonic team to give up on a format for 3d Sonic that they never fully refined.

[@maskofthedragon]

The Gems feel more like cheat codes than normal upgrades

[@charlessegale6493]

34:18: I'm reminded of Part 4 of BrainScratch Commentaries' Sonic 06 commentary with Clement. Johnny: Look at this, they ACTUALLY programmed *SPACE!* AS IF THEY *KNEW* YOU WERE GOING TO DO THIS!

[@sh21dow]

I was just wondering if you will cover the storybook games. I know they're spinoffs but they have a good story( for the most part) . Some people would say that black knight has the best sonic story and i want to hear your opinion on that

[@Pariah6950]

Didn't you watch the update video? The answer is almost always yes. Of course I'm covering them.

[@sh21dow]

@@Pariah6950 i did watch it but i think in the shadow video you said you're not covering spinoffs in an indirect way But whatever you have, im ready for it. Love your content

[@Voltricity435]

considering he covered sonic labryinth of all things it's pretty safe to say he'll definitly be covering those games

[@meercat4559]

I play P-06 so I never knew a lot of the broken stuff in this game.

[@ScrapsandSlaps]

Sonic 06 never seemed that bad when I first played it. I’d already played SA1, 2, Heroes, and Shadow, so I just adapted to all the jank like the other games. All the negative reviews exploding on the internet really clouded my judgement of the game.

[@droolbug1891]

But the reason why Sonic 06 was hated was because their shouldn't even been that many jank in that game in the first place.

[@ScrapsandSlaps]

@@droolbug1891 By that logic they should all get hate. None of the jank in any of the 3D games was intentional.

[@droolbug1891]

@@ScrapsandSlaps You don't get it do you. Compare to other sonic games. Sonic 06 had way more glitches and errors. And just because it wasn't intentional, doesn't make it a good thing, the game still got a ton of glitches which cause the game to just be pure awful.

[@ScrapsandSlaps]

@@droolbug1891 I get the hate for 06. It’s probably the most reviewed Sonic game on this website. But the hate from a critic does not always reflect someone’s personal experience. It wasn’t the best Sonic game I’d ever played but it wasn’t the absolute tragedy it’s made out to be. I probably hated Big’s part from adventure more. And don’t worry about arguing any of this with me. I’m speaking as someone who played it as a kid. It’s not critical or objective. If you genuinely feel like the games terrible then more power to you.

[@droolbug1891]

@@ScrapsandSlaps Then why did you used your experience playing the game as a kid as a point. I could tell you did from this comment, "all the hate from this game really clouded my judgement."

[@AnthonyBrown-gt4tn]

I think the best part of your reviews in particular are the suggestions for how to play the game. Ive modded the hell outta sa2b after your videos and this one's next. Had some trouble with heroes lol

[@Pariah6950]

Glad to hear. Part of my goal with these videos is to spread the knowledge of these available versions.

[@joshhacker8503]

I forced myself to play through the whole game. It took me roughly 10 years, but I did it. Never going back again. If I want to revisit anything from it, I'll watch somebody else play

[@JackSkellington__]

You mean you S ranked this whole game??

[@joshhacker8503]

@@JackSkellington__ You know that feeling you get when you don't want to stop? The one where you hate yourself for playing a game, but you keep going because you don't want to admit you can't do it? .................I hate that feeling soooooooo much!

[@Moister356]

It's really weird that Sonic Team basically nailed Sonic gameplay in Sonic Adventure 1 and after that started getting experimental with the level design in Sonic Adventure 2, gimmicky shit in Sonic Heroes, guns in Shadow the Hedgehog and then started the boost era and a subsection of gimmicks inside of that type of gameplay. Sonic Lost World was also experimental for a more slow pace approach which I quite like. And Sega never has came back to it as well. It's literally almost perfect.

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Oh yeah this already far more interesting then other takes on '06, because yeah, the mention of the general problems and all that, but you can already see how there is this gold nugget that was forgotten, which is the level design, the ones that were on good condition are already amazing and the ones that are not pullish, you can see that if they had the extra time would be as good as the rest of this unfinish level designs.

[@ChaddyFantome]

The point about the meter actually working in reverse and needing cores and drives to built it up for resource management is something I didnt actually think that deeply about and I dont know why but yea. It makes a heap more sense that way. I actually agree with you about Tail's flight. I know people complain but imo it was a good balance between SA1 and Heroes. Only change I would make is maybe let you aim your descent a bit but not much instead of falling like a rock. I personally really like how they handled multiple playable characters from a structural standpoint in this game and it's a shame the game bombed receptionwise because I would have LOVED to see this structure evolved. It's the perfect remedy to issues people had with characters in past games imo. Well, on paper at least. I'm also of the opinion that the SuperSpeed sections were a great addition, allowing us room for focus on speed and timing in one moment and more general platforming the other while not burning thr player out. Again, I say this is practice rather than pure execution. I'm not surprised by your fondness of the gems. In general I get the sense you really get a kick out of mechanic and systems exploitation in your games. As for level design, I find it gets too wide at points to the point it becomes difficult to know where you are supposed to go, and the combat wishes it was even half as fun as Heroes. There really needed to be more enemy types like in past games that required you sweep to hit their feel or use the wind attack to blow away shields, etc. Looking forward to the next part.

[@talkingnart1563]

Aw thanks for the eaely birthday present! :)

[@ax_yew_sumting2667]

Can't wait for part3

[@johnsmit3928]

I just discovered that shortcut at 45:05 last week and it blew my mind. I recently rebought this since I decided to start collecting PS3 games and the popularity of P-06 as well all these recent vids of people with fondness for this game made me want to revisit it. I have to say, while it’s in no way a great game, there are great aspects to it that I feel have been neglected by Sonic Team in a misguided effort to avoid past mistakes.

[@noobbox9113]

Man I’m excited for the modern games

[@Nickika]

The coin joke has evolved

[@TrewDomko]

games honestly sounds actually fun if you play it on PC. the mods and fixes you can use on PC via the xbox 360 emulator makes the game so much better

[@jestademon3524]

If you love that, then you'll definitely love "Sonic P-06".

[@BoyOHBoy123]

19:12 bro the entire sprite sheet popped up

[@SonplaysMinEcraft]

this is the first video of sonic 06 on the internet where somebody uses the gem upgrades

[@mistermiles3271]

Is that ring replacement sound effect from A Hat In Time? Lmao

[@Yuginkai12]

I got that game recently and it clicked with me when I reached that level lol

[@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ]

Wow, I never really knew what the gems do. It was never really explained in the game. And back in 2006, the internet wasn't big on guides. I only knew what the blue gem did, but thanks to this mechanic that stuns you whenever you get close to any kind of ostacle, it was unusable. I knew that the red gem maybe slows time, but it didn't feel like it slowed the time significantly enough for me to bother with it. And the purple gem, I thought it just made you invisible. But it shrank you and made you jump infinitely? I didn't know that :D I would assume that the shrinking part is not intended. Or the infinite jump part is not intended? Hard to tell. And the sky gem, if I only know what it did, I would play around with it.

[@crunchybunny2433]

I'm telling you sonic 06 is sonic adventure 3

[@theminecraft2516]

Why is Soleanna so pretty in cutscenes but in game it looks like it got bombed 2 days ago

[@thebombsquadtv6151]

also, the white gem when you charge it, it knocks enemies into other enemies. it’s probably only the level 1 ability, and the level 2 and 3 abilities might’ve actually done more damage or stun enemies, but since the game’s unfinished, it’s locked to lvl 1

[@Inactivechannel-r6]

You have a lot more patience than I do

[@MasterDisaster64]

You know, I expected you to comment on how the Antigravity slide is a strange addition when they could've just had normal rolling. At least it's not as bad as the SA2 somersault. Also, glad you could enjoy this gameplay. I sure couldn't, but that might be because I played it unmoddded on PS3, the worst version, and only got to play through it once.

[@lavender317]

06's story is SO underrated like if you ignore gameplay, it's absolutely one of my fav stories in the series

[@hookitiri]

I feel bad for the new watchers, starting at this and hearing "UEGH UEGEEEH UEGEHEEH" when he should have said coins.

[@ultrascarlet5275]

Hey Pariah, have you played Sonic Robo Blast 2? I'd like to hear your thoughts on it. In my opinion, it's best Sonic's ever been in 3D.

[@Pariah6950]

I have. It's great. I will do a video on it eventually.

[@Arc_ride]

@@Pariah6950 Hell yeah!

[@IkinBBfromAnthologyOfTheKiller]

@@Pariah6950 Cool, i was also gonna ask!

[@IkinBBfromAnthologyOfTheKiller]

I agree Actually, i like it so much, my KZbin profile is an inside joke related to SRB2 history

[@craigthehedgehog848]

How can sa1 have the most fixed gameplay out of all 3d sonic games? It was the "first" 3d sonic game.

[@ironicpolis7798]

i’ve been really enjoying your sonic videos, but i wanted to ask a small question. will you be doing the storybook series? i know the discourse if they’re a spin off or not is there but i’d like to hear your own opinion on them.

[@TreadywayYT]

There’s a gem where you can clip through walls and keep your speed I did it in aquatic base you can pass through doors

[@TreadywayYT]

I think it’s the blue one it’s a cool way to shit on your cousins in multiplayer I can show you if you want

[@ShadowSaberBaroxio]

Sonic 06 would have been a lot better if it was Sonic 07. An extra year to address the bugginess and clunkiness of the game (while optimizing for less loading screens) would have worked WONDERS.

[@kyasarintsu4047]

Sonic falling to the floor when you hit a wall at high speed is annoying. It was a feature originally planned to appear in Sonic 2 and shows up in early versions of the game. It was dropped for obvious reasons.

[@alexandrpeterberg390]

Oh boy, here comes the game that damaged the reputation of the Sonic franchise and its effects can be felt to this day. The one running problem with Sonic and SEGA starting from Sonic Adventure 1 (or earlier) is the rough development process. And when it comes to Sonic 06, the mismanagement and rushed deadlines were at their extreme which resulted in the disaster of a title. You could say this is where the miracles have run out with the Sonic franchise. I can only wonder what Sonic 06 and the franchise as a whole could have been had SEGA delayed the release of the game and given its devs enough time to refine and finish the game. Well, we certainly have an idea of what Sonic 06 could have been thanks to Project 06 but how the series could have been if Sonic 06 wasn't a disaster.

[@Laekith]

Love the A Hat in Time reference. I was thinking if I should enable any mods or not for my first playthrough of this cause most of them don't really seem necessary to me, but maybe they are and I'm just underestimating this game's shittiness

[@Pariah6950]

I still like the game without mods. But there's no reason to play without them.

[@Laekith]

There is one reason for me: I'm not sure some of these "fixes" were ever intended to be in the game. The game's already broken enough with the gems, then if you add the zero delay after the homing attack, the different airborne movement, etc... But then again, some of these things are in other of the games so I dunno

[@Pariah6950]

@@Laekith I don't care if they were intended or not. They make the game better.

[@7_wd40]

Honestly I thought you'd play P-06

[@theminecraft2516]

I think this game controls better than Heroes and Shadow

[@ElseWasHere]

I wasn't aspect this but the version your playing is the best I hope it get a PC Version Soon And Fixes Some Like A Patch Version

[@jared6728]

It just needed more time. Issues I have are stiff controls, loading times, boring quests- there's a potentially good Sonic game (as that one fan project is proving) in '06 they just didn't have the time or staff to make. Honestly they should remake it

[@dantrunkyrusuke4772]

"Um...you skipped shuffle and advance"

[@Pariah6950]

I'll get to them. Never said I'd be going in order.

[@Ivardarkreaper]

Maybe Bombs is a reference to Tails' solo game, Tail Adventure?There, he also throws bombs at enemies to take them out.

[@TSMSnation]

Tails had the dummy ring bombs In heroes, all I can say. Also this game takes a lot from shadow, just having the same slide move and spindash design is enough to notice

[@DaybreakTownGSA]

A few things I have the exact opposite opinion if the lightspeed dash and the flight mechanics There are quite a few glitches that occur when lightspeed dashing, such as Sonic gets turned backward which messes up movement out of the dash. Notably can happen when first trying to dash to the Wave Ocean warp gate. Also the fact of it being mapped to the same button as the bounce *again* which can mess up quite a few bits, again in Wave Ocean after the first grind section leading to the boardwalk with the gate you kick open. I believe you might've even had a clip of it happening somewhere in the video? And if you collected a few rings on accident, it would be impossible to use them. It worked great in Mach Speed sections (or Super-Speed Stages as they're apparently called), but that's because you pretty much had to use them I personally prefer what Shadow did, where if you accidentally collected a ring, it would leave behind phantom rings so you could still lightspeed dash On flying, I personally felt that it was pretty stiff in this game The dummy ring bombs also aren't just a random thing they threw into Tails's moveset in this game. In Sonic Heroes, if both party members are incapacitated, the player character will use their own personal attack. For Tails, if Sonic and Knuckles are out, he'll drop the ring bombs. Probably a reference to how he could create a fake chaos emerald with the properties of a real one, he just made bombs that look like rings as a kind of trap

[@banditkade]

...what word are you censoring when you're talking about tails' bombs, and why is it censored?

[@jtu2791]

I love your videos

[@pengun835]

17:49 WHAT IS THIS

[@ChaosAngelZero]

>most fucked-up physics Thanks, Havok.

[@halfdraggy]

I'm gonna be honest level design wise this game is great and if only the games bugs and physics where fixed this could be one of the greatest sonic games and the series would be in a much better place than it is today at least game wise

[@FireDragon-if7tk]

ME AND MY FRIENDS LOVE THIS SONIC GAME! (Even though people hate it)

[@d_rock1219]

Can you please live a link to where you downloaded your Xbox 360 06 iso plsss bro I can’t find one anywhere plsssss bro Just send the link I’ll even delete my comment after I’ve downloaded the game if your scared your vid will get taken down for sharing an 06 iso but please send the link to where you got it

[@Pariah6950]

It's not hard to get an iso from your own copy. Look it up. Don't need a modded console or anything.

[@d_rock1219]

@@Pariah6950 I actually just watched a video on how to rip and dump 360 games so I was able to dump my 360 copy then I used that as my iso for the Xenia emulator

[@Lewizzi]

Sonic 06 is my favorite game of all time, doesn’t deserve ALL the hate it gets