Sonic 3 and Knuckles Glitches and Oversights - Lava Reef Zone Act 1 + Megaglitch

[@mailbox5092]

I love how getting to the Megaglitch is a combination of glitches. The Floating Island Lava Glitch leads to the Act 1.5 Glitch, then you need to explore Act 1.5 to make the game crash and then you get to the Megaglitch. This glitch is legendary.

[@SonicAndTailsHD]

Knuckles: *divides by zero* Game: NOW ENTERING PAL MODE Knuckles: god help me

[@oosha2000]

More like oh no

[@Delta225]

It's times like this that I hate KZbin for removing annotations.

[@danielhall6888]

You can still find them in the CC option.

[@danielhall6888]

Respect for reannotating these.

[@Infinitythehedgehog6]

Finding the "Miles" thing at the end was actually really neat. Tail's real name is "Miles Prower" so the producers were planning on having it say "Miles Passed Act 1" untill they gave him the nickname "Tails." That's one of the things I love about glitches when you can use them to find hidden stuff from the producers of the game during the earlier development stages.

[@Brainulator9]

Tiddles in the Sonic 3 Complete topic on Sonic Retro: "Without getting too detailed, the rising and falling lava section enables a different set of background handling code to display the lava (same as the rising sand in SOZ2 - note you never see the level background in either of these sections). By falling through the lava, you skip the trigger to return this to normal. However, only the normal background event procedures contain any code to check for the act switch and load LRZ2's data. That's why going back and exiting that section normally causes the act 2 data to try to load - as soon as the normal background events kick in again, they see the act switch flag and immediately try to run the transition. The cheapest fix is probably to have the boss reset the background event counter. Still, I may or may not fix it - I don't want to take all the entertaining glitches out, particularly since this one requires such a specific and deliberate invocation. The sprite glitching/slowdown is indeed "PAL mode" by the way - to clarify, the console's mode itself is not changed, but a state flag within RAM that's set at bootup if the console's running at 50Hz gets set (along with all sorts of RAM being corrupted - including, possibly, the player selection value, which is how ORKAL gets to be "Blue Knuckles" in his video). This results in different timing being applied that is completely wrong for 60Hz, which is why you see all the bad things you do. That's why the music is trying to play faster for instance - it's trying to compensate for the console speed. There's no particular fix in place in S3C to stop that particular issue alone - as it's RAM corruption, there could be all kinds of coincidental reasons why different variables are corrupted in different ways. It's ultimately the same as the issue where smashing a bunch of super monitors can glitch you from S3&K into S&K - the RAM flag for which version should be running gets damaged. That glitch also tends to corrupt the emerald array, but you don't tend to see it since starting the game from the S&K title screen resets the emerald state."

[@oosha2000]

So that mentions it's hard to fix that mega glitch, are there any legal issues with codes if this game ? I think this works also in other s3&k hacks if possible

[@Brainulator9]

Of course it works in other hacks. Also, he said there was an easy fix, this glitch is just too specific to be problematic.

[@oosha2000]

Then it's considered the most complex glitch in s3&k so far

[@oosha2000]

I hope most of glitches especially this one will be fixed when released for mobile devices even if they had unique and exclusive for mobile like s1, 2 and cd

[@Brainulator9]

Same.

[@abird7809]

That megaglitch defies programming logic. How exactly does spindashing inside a wall make the game not only reset itself but CHANGE THE REGION DECIMAL?! What bizarre hexidecimalage is that?

[@Damonj17]

At a guess, the game has safety code to make sure that if the game crashes, it will reset. you spindash inside of a wall and the data stored there is part of the region decimal, and you crash because you go to an invalid decimal. It then resets and rounds to the nearest available.

[@abird7809]

Damon ExtremelyLovely That actually makes a lot of sense, but only if the PAL region decimal is 1 or higher whilst the Japan/North America decimal is 0.

[@aplsed]

Well Mr. Atari, maybe its a hard glitch to attempt.

[@OrangeShellGaming]

I believe it's because the spin dash in such a position where you're in a glitchy part of an act causes the game to effectively rewrite memory in random places, eventually running to a completely random part of code which ISN'T actual code but data instead. This "code" will make the game reset, but still some of the flags in memory that the game uses (such as the NTSC/PAL region) will remain as they were affected by the spin dash movement.

[@OrangeShellGaming]

***** The spin dash overwrites random parts of the memory. Explained in a more simple way: the effects of the megaglitch are random.

[@graysongdl]

Wow, new, updated captions was the last thing I expected from rewatching this. That's funny.

[@shouse_zip]

these sonic 3 vids make me feel warm and cozy

[@shouse_zip]

also thank for subtitles

[@bluechicken4866]

Thank you very much for taking the time to update these videos and salvaging the captions! These have been a favourite series of mine - and obviously many others - for a long time. I had to LOL at the comments about updating your emulator 😏

[@titotech]

this glitch is legendary

[@SaturnRabbit94]

📝 List of Glitch and Oversights. 0:00 Rolling in the gas. 0:24 Ramp it up. 0:36 Unused ring room # 1. 🖥 0:56 Sonic in Knuckles' Act 1. 🖥 1:58 Unused ring room # 2. 🖥 2:17 Unused ring room # 3. 🖥 2:52 Lava comes and goes. 3:28 Dumb platform tricks. 3:42 Floating island lava. 🖥 4:13 Lava Reef Act 1.5. 🖥 5:31 Exploring Act 1.5. 🖥 7:11 Lava Reef Act 2 in Act 1. 8:00 Act 1.5 crash. 8:24 The Megaglitch. ⭐️ 🖥 Debug mode can help you escape when you're stuck, or make the glitch very easy. ⭐️ Special Glitch.

[@HGSE_10]

ok

[@LukyHRE]

"And now, the game has glitched the fuck out." This is beautiful.

[@MiniBlackWaltz]

Miles the Echidna, a completely original fan character!

[@AeridesEntertainment]

Miles the BLUE Echidna that can sometimes become red. Why? I dunno. Probably indecisive or something like that.

[@dannybu898]

sounds like something you'd find on deviantart.

[@MusicDecomposer]

That's not a huge glitch, it's a preview of Sonic '06. They were trying to warn us!

[@-Nayomie-]

Tails alone can also go back in the act 1.5. Just keep going left at 6:00 untill the starting area (in the loopback) then fly up. Do a spindash then fly above the top of the screen to come back.

[@WesleyBranton]

Sent here by a singing farmer that broke physics.

[@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin]

Please explain to us unenlighteneds I'm really curious

[@humidifier_enthusiast]

Turning on comments is like finding a treasure chest

[@KatelynJewel]

Wow! This is defenitly one of my favorite glitch videos so far.

[@AHugeBattleship]

Mind completely blown. This is a fantastic series of videos.

[@michaelduncan8531]

I was sent here by a man who sings amazing country music.

[@its_4life]

uhh...... how and why?

[@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin]

Please explain I'm really curious

[@Shadowth117]

I lost it at Miles Got Through Act1

[@R4dm1n]

So you are a blue Knuckles, called Tails, that the game thinks is Sonic.

[@HeartAndMind34]

RadeonEagle606/SilverGenerations lol nice reference

[@Aestroth]

I was wondering what was up with the annotation change, because I watch these videos a lot. That makes a LOT of sense why I was having issues replicating the some of the effects of the Megaglitch, sans Blue Knuckles. Sidenote: LET YOUR ECHIDNAS RUN FREE!

[@DA_Garden]

Amazing glitches, as always. I triggered something like the Megaglitch when I was younger. It resetted the game and the Miles text came up as well. The title screen music was slower though, but maybe they are related. Nice to know it was real and not my imagination.

[@pumpkinbot]

I gotta say, I really like how you did this video. Most videos that use annotations have them go by annoyingly fast, or they completely clash with the rest of the video's written annotations. This is how you use annotations correctly. ;) Take my like, good sir. I do wish I could watch this in at least 320p. :T 240 is just...terrible.

[@BraveBlitz]

I do wonder how ORKAL is doing now, this stuff was my childhood and made me really interested in glitches in general.

[@ikagura]

Maybe he has a life outside of it...

[@glitchedblood]

he works on the TCRF website as GoldS

[@SSofIreland]

I was sent here by a man with a physics-defying tractor.

[@jousephguzman8709]

Jian Carlos Does Gliches and Debug Mode In Sonic 1,2,3,& Knuckles Alot.

[@Toby_StH]

Lol, that last moment were great. XD Miles has passed act 1, Knuckles as the character and a RED Sonic on the signpost. I don't know how you find all these glitches, but I'm sure glad you do. It's great entertainment. ^_^ 5/5

[@yisusgames5996]

10:37 "Wait,what? Sonic? Miles? Knuckles? I give up."

[@spiketbear]

Thanks for these vids! I freakin love them!!

[@DemonRaichu]

Nice video. I actually got the same blue Knuckles when I messed around with the debug mode in Launch base zone.

[@Zikar]

I bought Sonic & Knuckles when it first came out. Have played the game many many times and I've never, ever seen the room with the moving lava before... even now the game can still throw surprises at me.

[@HermesRockStar]

The Megaglitch is the best thing to ever hit a video game. Totally screwing with the internal timing, graphic locations, and even gameplay routes, this king of glitches should be accessible in ANY video game.

[@Motobug]

Wow, I never would've figured the megaglitch was an issue with Gens, not an issue with the game itself. I tried for hours to replicate that in Mega Collection and on real hardware as a kid, so it is a little disappointing it didn't really exist at all.

[@foursword4]

That megaglitch was very interesting to me. I felt inclined to give it a go on my own, just to see what other effects I could dig up. However, I just couldn't recreate the same effect that you did. Maybe the room for error is much thinner than I thought, as everything works fine for me after the game resets. Still, this is an incredible find, and I applaud you for that.

[@tece0577]

8:35 my megadrive is always like that, slow game and fast music, anyone can help me?

[@imp106]

funny thing is there are unused ring locations in manias lava reef zone some were used for encore mode

[@IvanFranco120]

Yeah

[@XaneMyers]

Sonic 3 Unlocked linked me back to these videos which I've seen before, but wasn't the commentary once annotations? Glad to see everything was ported to captions before Google started pulling them out of everyone's videos.

[@gravitybreaker1]

Miles the knuckles the hedgehog

[@distray0x]

Paint the Knuckles. There isn't even an official name for him in any of the games he stars in!

[@tece0577]

Miles the echidnhog

[@Marcelelias11]

Miles "Knuckles" the Hedgehog

[@letthatsinkin8569]

Miles "Knuckles" The Hedgehog

[@Telejaba]

Knuckles prower the hedgehog

[@DevynProwerTF]

Tails: phuc!!!!!! You know exactly where I'm going?!?! (Breaks computer) Tails: (screaming and laughing) Sonic: what's with all the ruckus!? Tails: go away from me! I'm not in the mood right now. Sonic: OK.

[@DevynProwerTF]

IKR?

[@bluemew22]

Holy... that megaglitch IS better than The Curse of Egg Golem. It actually has a potential use: Blue Knux!

[@R4dm1n]

When the Megaglitch is activated, the game tries to run from a Japanese 50Hz console.

[@Spaztron64]

+SilverGenerations Studios That explains Miles,but how can it do it while the console is active?I thought only emulators can do it.Or maybe it can be done on consoles,considering that a Mickey Mouse game progresses when you switch regions while the console is on.

[@R4dm1n]

SpazZTRoN64 The Megaglitch can be activated on a real Genesis/Megadrive. The spindash is what might of made the game trigger code to reset in Japanese PAL mode when the crash handler resets the game.

[@LairOfSoundtracks]

Possibly. I've only ever used Fusion so I don't know much about others, but I expect something out there will. (for clarification, the crash and reset happens on Fusion, but when it resets it auto-corrects whatever regional errors arise so the megaglitch doesn't appear)

[@jousephguzman8709]

I Need Super/Hyper Sonic & A Lighting Sheld To Do A Megaglich

[@MoonshadowCaz]

Act 1.5 is a very beautiful visual.

[@InsanityReborn]

Also this page is listed on TvTropes I believe for the Megaglitch. Grats to you.

[@oaktea]

That last glitch is incredible. Pal mode? Wow.

[@tiananatsumi6775]

I love the sight of Lava Reef act 1.5, very cool!!! 😳

[@majztic]

8:26 Megaglitch

[@majztic]

2017 recomment: 8:26 - The Megaglitch

[@marsil602the2nd]

i see now why hyper forms were not only such a chore here, as well as never shown up again: it just breaks everything

[@HristoGeorgievTV]

I was sent here by man who killed two people and got lubed up by some castle owners.

[@footbigmike]

Oh, man, that is outstanding. If the precision on some of it wasn't really high, i'd be tempted to try it on the console.

[@Sonicgott]

I wish KZbin didn't corrupt the annotations so much... hard to read them. >_

[@its_4life]

TheSonicGod i saw u on another video like 10 seconds ago xD

[@oosha2000]

Imagine doing a full gameplay after the megaglitch aftermath, it's like playing sonic 1 gba 2006 version again.

[@IvanFranco120]

Lmao, the Mega Glitch is pretty cool. 😳

[@mickeyhavens867]

I tried doing the mega glitch,but when I went into a corner after I got there,b4 the place I was supposed to go,the damn thing kept crashing:(

[@ThatOneSlowking]

There is another glitch, only tested it in sonic 3c beta 0517 so not sure if it is in the final release, but I managed to make Act 2 have a mixture of Act 2 and Act 1's pallete, The rocks were randomly either act 1 and act 2 colored and IIRC it had act 1 music. This happened 4-5 years ago and on Gens+ emulator, so not sure how to replicate.

[@fluffluffcatmeow]

10:36 Miles got through act 1, and then on the sign red hot sonic WHAT THE HECK IS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bluemew22]

Since Sonic 2, go to the Options and press up (3) down (3)

[@tubebrocoli]

@GordieKat This is just a guess, but apparently, the game started corrupting itself randomly, probably dumping loads of debug data, or simply lava data everywhere in the game RAM. This normally makes the game crash, but if you underflow your position (move to negative X position, this teleports you to max X position), the game soft resets, stopping the self-corruption. But the RAM has already been corrupted to some extent, so everything is messed up, like the video mode for example.

[@conlia]

They should make Unused ring room #3 a real one,but with a secret exit path.

[@kargaroc386]

ever notice, blue knuckles happens when it loads the palette for sonic, when you use knuckles. that's also why sonic's sprite in the sign is red. it does the opposite. I'm guessing the megaglitch must scramble the contents of RAM.

[@LiamGaughan]

someone try and finish the game after the mega glitch with the knuckles character... or at least finish death egg/doomsday?

[@basil2130]

now what happens if you use level select to go back to lava reef with megaglitch on only to perform megaglitch again?

[@WetSeahorse]

@attltb What emulator do you use? I use Fusion 3.6. Fusion has the option to change countries for the ROM; USA, Japanese, and European. Switching it to European makes it incredibly easy to do the mega glitch.

[@ieatatsonic]

Some of these would be great for competition. Also the blue knuckles was awesome, almost as if it was an easter egg.

[@ORKAL]

Yes. Doing this glitch on an emulator and setting the country to European will actually fix the slowdown and graphical errors.

[@antoniotito89]

Can you please make some videos of the Sonic 3 Prototype 1993?

[@Alex_SHX]

I think that the only glitch in the last scene is the HUD displaying SONIC instead of ROBOTNIK.

[@oosha2000]

Is there any glitch that does the same thing but music going slower and game running faster ?

[@majztic]

Where is the section for 2:54?

[@variousthings6470]

10.10 - "The game is trying to run in PAL mode..." - Ah, that doesn't surprise me! When I saw that the glitch makes the game slow down, it reminded me of what happens when you switch a Mega Drive emulator playing Sonic 3 between NTSC and PAL modes in the middle of the game.

[@seththetactician6712]

i cant find out where he was for the megaglitch so can someone please give me directions to that area I really want to be the blue knuckles and have tried to find other ways to do it. if you find another way to do it please tell me

[@samuroleon]

parts of classic escape from the city were based on endless mine.

[@conyberry]

at the end,it says "Miles". character is knux. icon is sonic. *mind blown*

[@its_4life]

that mega-glitch is crazy dude the music is faster and S3&K lags BIGGER than my roblox game!

[@finalizer0]

The MegaGlitch: We accidentally your whole game.

[@troywright359]

Red hedgehog Miles the Echidna completed act 1

[@attltb]

@WetSeahorse I use GENS. It has the option too but It dosen't work to me.

[@ChEeZeBaLL999]

I'd like to see the megaglitch performed after it's ready been performed once. (Mega glitch inside the mega glitch).

[@Luminethereploid]

@ORKAL If i set country to Europre will it blow any hope for Blur Knuckles too?

[@graysongdl]

whats NTSC SECAM and analogue color systems?

[@jmiester25]

I've gotten Blue Knuckles at the end of the game with debug mode on the gamecube, and I've also gotten the megaglitch to work, however, the game crashes at a different point for some reason.

[@LiLFeL]

Miles, showing a red sonic. A fan character joke by the staff? Nah, I give them too much credit XD

[@jmiester25]

tried the megaglitch over and over again but every time i go to that platform to jump down to the starpost, either the starpost was previously sprung or, the game crashes when i get to the platform. wth I have Sonic Mega Collection so maybe that's why it won't let me do it, or I'm doing something wrong. Help

[@CJH3D]

EDIT: I've never really understood why each level has a copy of the layout.

[@danin900]

@HermesRockStar that's so true! another reason to worship early Sonic games!

[@YouDuck2345]

The megaglitch. BEST. GLITCH. EVER. It's like the developers PLANNED Blue Knuckles, included him in the game, made levels for him...And then gave up. O_o

[@planetarycube5988]

"There's no way out, though." Actually, the only way out is to wait for the timer to run out.

[@wackyclock]

in PC, if you have all 7 emeralds, jump and press space while you jumped.

[@DABoredman]

Oh hey, fellow Troper! Oh, and I actually first heard the term in TGWTG

[@Czxvkq]

What happens if you perform the mega glitch, then play through Lava Reef Zone as blue Knuckles and then perform the mega glitch again?

[@DaMan56100]

The universe itself goddamn collapses

[@TheOCAShow]

@attltb Thanks, that did work perfectly, but it took me a couple attempts to read the debug HUD correctly :P

[@Epicness121Gaming]

10:29 i see red sonic, tails,robotnic but idk why they would draw a red miles. as if they do it on purpose for a reason. and then i saw in a playthrough of blue knuckles where when he caught a chaos emerald it said tails.

[@oosha2000]

Oh no did anybody notice how the mega glitch changed the game's blast processing to s1 gba with faster tracks ?

[@WillWill45]

I think this happens because the MegaGlitch somehow set the game's country to an European country, and Tails is called Miles in Europe and (I think) Japan. So that's my best reason.

[@JamesR624]

I wish we could know how to do this glitch. LRZ act 1 looks pretty like that. Would love to explore it. Any chance anyone knows how to replicate this?

[@unuFPS]

Fantastic mega glitch... Keep the vids coming :)

[@NunofYerbizness]

We're currently in a post-annotation world; Would it be no trouble to ask for secondary versions of these old videos, but with the text baked into the footage, instead of being on extinct colored boxes?

[@D2RCR]

Nunof Yerbizness ORKAL redid the annotations as captions, so they’ll appear if you turn on closed captioning.

[@jamesgill6247]

I have recordings of them all somewhere. Made a couple of years ago and i think some annotations are even different to the subtitles we have today.

[@TheOCAShow]

I can't seem to get Lava Reef Zone 1.5 at all. I take the route you show, and then go the rest of the knuckles route to the boss and defeat it. I do have the lightning shield but it properly loads Act 2. I do use debug mode.