Sonic Colors Ultimate Finally Broke my Spirit - RadicalSoda

[@retrobox64]

More people need to be talking about how terrifying the “patch it later” mentality is.

[@SecureInMyHead]

Yes. The bane of all AAA/AA titles.

[@Skerp129]

Die hard sonic cultists don't help either

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

It’s been the most annoying thing since around 2017. It’s been the biggest turn on when a game releases in a great state and has zero to no glitches

[@TheBatmutt]

As well as the, "Oh, at least people can make mods on this and make it better." Like, don't put it on modders to fix a crappy game for you. I seriously hate that.

[@noahdavis7406]

@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs Hence why I love Nintendo games (outside their sports titles)

[@genemelendez8157]

Honestly, the whole “we can just patch it later” stopped being a valid excuse after the seizure glitches in the switch version.

[@artsman9114]

honestly a bad mentality to have ever

[@SolarisPolari]

The whole, 'release a barebones game with barely any content and have free updates afterward', is another bad trend that has popped up recently. What happened to normal game development?

[@Robin-234]

@@SolarisPolari I would say I have no idea why that trend caught on, but I have a feeling that we all know. It's the 'fans' along with the tight deadlines the people in charge hold over developers heads because of "profit". They just aren't allowed to take their time and finsih the damn game because it has to be put by *that date* and any time it gets delayed their bosses are probably standing over their heads like "you better have this out by then, I don't care if it's not polished". Speaking of delays, the large ammount of 'fans' who quite litteraly threaten to kill people when a game is delayed aren't helping the situation. Honestly imo a game shouldn't even be announced until it's almost complete, but that's my highly subjective opinion. And I'm sure the higher ups at companies would absolutely laugh at it.

[@muizzsiddique]

How about Pro Skater 5 where the v1.0 of the game was just the demo and the Day 1 patch was the rest of the game? This was back in 2015!!!

[@SolarisPolari]

@@muizzsiddique From what I recall, I believe that one was because the developers had to stop making the game as soon as the Tony Hawk license ended, which led to that mess of a game

[@BugsyFoga]

Radical Soda’s spirit was so broken it brought him back from the dead.

[@FalcomTreya]

Wait aren't you the guy who gave Caddicarus a shitty game?

[@jordandillow3423]

He is kill him

[@the_real_emelie_crosscode]

a unique return comment

[@djtruevex]

Such is the Jontron life.

[@BugsyFoga]

@@FalcomTreya Why yes, yes I am.

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

What a patch should be for: Minor graphical bugs, maybe fixing an occassional crash or two that was missed. What a patch should NOT be for: The game being an unfinished pile of wank.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

I mean FFXIV, No Man's Sky and Yooka-Laylee got redeemed, but yes.

[@justascarecrow6988]

​@@CarbonRollerCaco These are the few that did make it. FFXIV had a long path ahead of itself and we have yoshi-p to thank for Eorzea being as great as it is now. No Man's sky has been again, years of dedication and toiling before people gave it a shot. ANd i don't know a damn thing about Yooka laylee. But most of the redeemed are games that either had a company hinge on them (their biggest release) and or were a live service. Sonic Colors Ultimate is one game of many entrusted to yet another subpar to bad studio. Shit's gonna remain half baked.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Blimey!

[@JediMB]

Can't help thinking about how the original Doom had to be patched shortly after its 1993 release because its rushed network code _ravaged_ entire university LANs.

[@matthewbraith0411]

@@CarbonRollerCaco "redeemed" doesn't make them not accountable for shitting on people.

[@audreyyale2363]

The sheer horror on my face when I first saw that opening cutscene was indescribable and probably the most visceral reaction I've had to a game in a long time. That's not an exaggeration.

[@Fighter_Builder]

Same. I was at a legitimate loss for words when I saw that and that's something I usually only say as hyperbole! Lagging FMVs is something I'd expect from an unoptimized emulator, not an official remaster. What happened here????????

[@Veteran622]

Seriously, me too. That's something I'd see on an old PS2 disc. Not a PS4 game, let alone running on a PS5! There's just straight up no excuse for that sort of thing, like I don't care if it's patched later on, how is it like that the *first* time around!?

[@SumRndmPenguin]

Same. It's a fucking mp4 or smth lol.

[@kirbtunia1061]

Despite me being someone who doesn't really give big reactions on games, the choppiness of the cutscenes in that game left me flabbergasted with how bad it was. I don't get surprised a lot when playing a game I have or haven't seen before, but I've SEEN the original colors and holy shit the remastered cutscenes left me feeling in awe, confusion, and anger; How did they fuck up THIS BAD?

[@Supersonicblue1027]

​@@Fighter_Builder what happened is a 3rd party company separate from Sega remastered there game and Sega was busy working on frontiers so they just let it go.

[@blitz4506]

Honestly this felt like a threat to fans that always ask for Unleashed to get ported...

[@mastertjt56]

Lol

[@nman551]

SEGA: OH WE WILL BREAK THAT TOO

[@DJWingoYT]

Speaking of unleashed we need the review to be finished

[@cluless5227]

@@nman551 and Sega will be like: its not our fault so here refunds!

[@peterparker5050]

"Ah, yes, we'll give you a port alright!"

[@BurstFlare]

I agree with you, the whole mentality of "it's fine, it'll be patched later" is just freaking stupid 'cause a lot of these bugs shouldn't have been in a commercial release in the first place.

[@kitkatiecat]

This is how all games should be reviewed, good on you for taking a stand

[@zoltarservin510]

I don't agree with what he said but i respect the "stand"

[@sleeplessknight173]

I think day 1 patches are fine since they smooth out small issues right away. But all the other big patches should have just been part of the game from launch

[@MrDark086]

Ship it in a state that is fully playable and functional or delay it and get it fixed. I'm well past gettin my game, comin home, and then spending the next 3 hours downloading the other half of the game they didn't bother to implement before shipping. For those defending this practice, look at how Tony Hawk turned out. The final game in the series was so utterly broken without a day one patch you couldn't do anything with it and if the servers go bye-bye then you no longer have a patch to get so the game remains permanently unplayable and broken ie. you cant preserve the game or go back to it without those files being somehow preserved with it. Its a poor business practice and one that shouldn't be rewarded, defended, or encouraged.

[@vibezonegaming]

I mean he’s reviewing it from an outdated personal experience if he considers none of the patches. There is an inherent logical fallacy to saying you don’t like something without giving it the benefit of updated information.

[@MikeTheEntei]

@@vibezonegaming His issue is that more and more games are being rushed, period. Instead of paying $60 for a complete game, people are playing $60 for an incomplete and forced to wait--in a sense, people are paying $60 plus their time. In economic terminology, it's an opportunity cost--they could invest that money in stocks or buy other games or do anything else with that money, but people who buy games at launch nowadays are basically getting scammed.

[@TheUltimateShadow64]

Its easy to forget sometimes that a lot of people either live without good internet or don't take their machines online at all. For some, the disc version IS the definitive version. Even if the number of offline players is too small to matter, the Day 1 version is still the only version of the game that literally everyone who buys it will play. Good on you for being more accommodating in your reviews than the industry is with its consumers.

[@TheDevilsGreatestTrick]

And good on you for making this observation that SERIOUSLY needs more awareness. 👍

[@TheDevilsGreatestTrick]

@koizumi I'm a little scared to ask, but wtf is an online pass (Assuming you're not referring to the "console exclusive multiplayer passes")?

[@TheDevilsGreatestTrick]

@koizumi Lol, It's cool! 😆👍

[@TheMarioman121]

Don't forget, the servers for consoles (and PC stores) will inevitably shut down someday. As shown with the Wii U, 3DS, Vita, and PS3 too, that day may come sooner than we think. And when it does come, people might not be able to patch these games (at least, not easily).

[@nrc1965gm]

"We'll fix it in a patch" immediately makes me worried that what they really mean is "we will use the launch of the game as a justification to push the devs into insane amounts of crunch because obviously we've got to rush those first fixes. Obviously this will make them work harder and be more cost efficient than just extending the deadline."

[@TokyoDrift456]

last i heard sega allowed the game to be delayed by a year after the devs said they were having issues with the game so

[@WobblesandBean]

@@TokyoDrift456 Then explain this. Also, I worked as an associate producer in the games industry for 13 years, trust me, the first guy is 100% right.

[@TokyoDrift456]

@@WobblesandBean well, the developer, unbeknowst to SEGA, is known among the employees for being shit at resource managment, having an awful work environment, lying to the publisher, and not letting said publisher check their work

[@James-oj6ru]

Ok, so the developer wasn’t SEGA actually, it was Blind Squirrel which explains why the engine was _Unity rather than the Hedgehog engine,_ the development gone on for a year but blind squirrel said they were having issues, delaying it for half a month… _then again…_ culminating in 2 years of development _aaaaand… here we are_ Blind Squirrel is _NOT_ a good team at all, at best, they’re porters and at worst, Sonic Ultimate, they’re infamous for _lying to their publisher/not letting them see the process/straight up scamming now, underpaying their developer even more so than usually, mass firing, horrible work culture, insane crunch time, horrible management_ and overall, lying to their own developers

[@enegizedadam]

@@James-oj6ru this explains how everything went wrong

[@AnimatedTerror]

I want to find it funny that you’ve had your spirit broken but I feel more sad that anything. No one should lament the fall of a franchise they love.

[@setsers1]

Agreed

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

Tbf, the franchise is amazing, they’ve got a strong community and has a great character. Just sucks that the games aren’t up to par with what they used to be and they aren’t using all the titles they have. JSR was a great game but Sega literally wouldn’t allow for a relicensing when the producer came back from working for another company, it was so bad he literally made a new project just like JSR. It’s just disappointed not sad, you still have so many great games and adaptations of Sonic, they just don’t know how to make a good one to save their life

[@pikaboom6539]

It’s…sonic…

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

I think you mean something like "No one should find humor in the fall of…".

[@TheRealBlazingDiamond]

I had that moment with the Ratchet and Clank series. Until Rift Apart. And even then, the series seems to have the same problems it's had as of late. Feels bad man.

[@Athior]

One thing that should be brought up more about “Ship first, patch later,” is that the patch has to be downloaded from an online server. And when those servers are inevitably killed off, you basically get stuck with a bug ridden, barely functioning mess… assuming the game even has enough data to even boot of course.

[@hwanniggles187]

While true, Im positive people archive these patches. Same way with how Jailbreaking consoles has firmware versions saved online. Not saying we should allow this, but there is an option

[@SuperSonic68]

3:31 That was a hell of an edit. Well done.

[@jerppursh7570]

Yeah how do you do something like that

[@JTRockYT]

@@jerppursh7570 really good masking and/or chromakeying

[@SuperSonic68]

@@jerppursh7570 it's fairly easy to conceptualize, but difficult to do well. Film both parts, layer them over each other on two layers, then go frame by frame to edit the overlap between Robert and Bear.

[@smugsneasel]

I didn't even register it as an edit. I just subconsciously imagined Bear Grylls as another guy.

[@JeremyBX]

@@smugsneasel Exactly, it took me a few seconds before going "wait..... WAIT...."

[@paddythelegend1671]

3:31 damn I was always skeptical that Rad and Bear Grylls were the same people, but thank you Rad for getting rid of my skeptism

[@RedTygon]

Anyone else miss the days when games were released finished? Not just half finished, not just partially finished. Finished, finished. The game you are paying for, not a mound of dog dirt that then gets polished ages down the line.

[@nyhtfall1969]

i miss those days

[@zepic3895]

That's not necessarily true, games have always been released with game breaking bugs, because there's always something that's gonna fly under the radar (look at the n64 zelda games for example, those games are full of small glitches that probably would have been patched in a day 1 update if that was possible at the time) But there lies the true issue, instead of making day 1 patches (or heck patches in general) to patch out small bugs that flew under the radar, even after intense testing, instead AAA developers now use them as excuses to release barely finished messes

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

@@zepic3895 Yeeeeeeaaaah...no, sorry buddy, those games were still finished in their entirety and functional. Yes there existed game breaking glitches, but those were almost always ones you kinda had to go out of your way to find, or rarely happened at all. Like you said, they always had glitches that would fly under the radar, but the difference is that back then they had the thought and effort to TRY finding them, they found a lot of the biggest issues, cleaned them out, and when they shipped it? Chances are the few glitches left were out of the way or generally rare.

[@zepic3895]

@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 that's what I'm saying, there's always glitches that fly under the radar, but instead of taking the most you can before shipping the game, developers just now ship unfinished games

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

@@zepic3895 Yeah, I gotcha! I think we can all agree that the endless staircase exploit is a good glitch though lol

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

i think people saying back before the game released that “sonic colors is what skyward sword hd should’ve been in terms of being a port!!” is the heaviest form of irony ive seen on the internet in a LONG time

[@nathanevans1382]

Yeah, if anything it should've been the other way around.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

No, it should've been better, BOTH OF THEM

[@DoctorMario606]

I remember saying to a group of people that no matter the price of skyward sword HD AT THE VERY LEAST with Nintendo we're almost always garunteed a quality product that works. I got written off immediately of course because this is the internet, but look at where we are now.

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 i completely agree, they were having the most intense mediocre battle of all time

[@kauanjos3199]

Unpopular opinion: i still think it's better than skyward sword hd, not on the switch because of performance issues and some "exclusive bugs"

[@Rediscool9]

I’m glad you’re one of the few Sonic fans who are not afraid to rip this “remaster” a new one. This abysmal excuse for a “remaster” got off WAY too easy in my opinion as I barely see many big KZbinrs or Sonic fans talk about this dumpster fire in a negative light. No joke, there were plenty of Sonic fans on Twitter that were actually THANKING Sega for doing the absolute bare freaking minimum by announcing patches for the glitches in this garbage “remaster”.

[@thomasalvarenga2839]

I am surprised because I saw a decent number of videos calling this game out, I am surprised there are defenders. Thought I assume many think the worse of the glitches were from improper emulation as opposed to the actual game.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@thomasalvarenga2839 The T-pose glitch was called out very early

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 Didn't invalidate the other glitches.

[@TokyoDrift456]

sega didnt do anything, they outsourced this to a development studio who seemingly had a good track record for making good remasters, when in actuality they are a bad developer who make games like this and constantly pull this card while lying to publishers

[@veggsbacon1891]

Probably the "big tubers" and "sanic fans" are too blind and effed to their minds to really crap on this "game."

[@Darkbrine]

God I always love listening to RadicalSoda's reviews and watching the videos. So many silly rants, cleverly timed jokes, and even Bear Grylls. No but seriously, I'm glad listening to everything RadicalSoda does. It's always fun to watch him execute some great-ass humor and even the real life skits are well-crafted, arguably exciting to see.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

I love him because he’s got similar humor from older gaming review channels

[@rollingvice]

its got the old jontron reviews feeling.

[@ErrorMessage]

His quality is definitely always consistent. Catches my interest every time and I've watched a good few multiple times over. 👍

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Enjoy the humor while it lasts, because I can guarantee you he'll stop being as easy-going in the later videos, just like in Sword & Shield

[@Darkbrine]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 I thought he was fine in the Sword and Shield videos too.

[@LMAO_And_Forever]

I love how when Mr. IncrediBazinga shows up it’s basically just three RadicalsSodas talking to each other.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

I love how RadicalSoda's reaction to Mr. IncrediBazinga is the reaction Bear Grylls has to RadicalSoda, and how Bear Grylls's reaction to Mr. IncrediBazinga is the reaction RadicalSoda has to Bear Grylls.

[@magicmoon6375]

Now we just need the violet demon... If he's still alive...

[@GamingCreed47]

I love how Bear Grylls just looks at Mr. Incredibazinga like "Who the hell is this guy". Making it canon that they've never met before 😂

[@viberry_]

10:42 listening to this in headphones was a magically infuriating experience, thank you radicalsoda for your immaculate attention to detail

[@KanasanDX]

Agent Stone: "He's back!!!"

[@loganmarshall3395]

Okay I love the visual of Bear Grylls peeking through the window, it describes so much of his character just from the environment he's in.

[@cloud564]

5:13 Man that’s such a great remaster. They’re playing every third note

[@THATGuy5654]

Releasing games in a broken state is so common that it took someone releasing a broken version of a game that was released about a decade ago to really put it into perspective.

[@insanemindset2667]

I bet if these people who are like "It's okay. They will patch it later" were food reviewers, they would definitely say something like "Sure, they may have given me a burger that is missing its meat patty, but at least their Food Patching system will fix it and give me the patty later."

[@SuperSonic68]

The colors feel so wrong. I am so glad that I checked the Patreon.

[@YasugoLiehu]

Just take my hand, we're gonna reach for the subs tonight.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Nice rhyme!

[@ToaderTheToad]

To be honest, it's just insane how SEGA allowed this for release... It must've taken a lot of bribing to get the IGN score to 8

[@IGSA101]

Game companies now probably spend more on bribing reviewers than on the actual games.

[@AzureRoxe]

SEGA has become one of the greediest companies in gaming for a while now.

[@ToaderTheToad]

@@AzureRoxe To be honest, they just keep up the "fan-friendly" appearance by passing the low-bar that is Sony, Nintendo and (partially, they were worse when the Xbone launched) Microsoft

[@nathanevans1382]

Doubt any bribing was needed, IGN just doesn't know what good Sonic games are.

[@ToaderTheToad]

@@nathanevans1382 Considering how fluctuated IGN's Sonic scores are, that is probably true

[@anothergamer112]

The only thing SEGA has over other game companies is how effectively they can gaslight their fandom into believing what's barely the bare minimum is a miracle of quality.

[@ChrisStoneinator]

Well to be fair, it doesn't have that over Nintendo.

[@anothergamer112]

@@ChrisStoneinator People are STILL on that Nintendo v SEGA bs? Also no. Nintendo doesn't need to gaslight anyone about quality because their games are actually playable. Even when there's updates, at least they've been a little extra content instead of having to fix the broken base game like SEGA has been with this.

[@Rediscool9]

@@anothergamer112 THANK YOU!

[@Rediscool9]

It’s really sad how often the Sonic fandom allows SEGA to walk all over them nowadays. Sonic fans seem to just forget that just because SEGA allows Sonic fan games to exist and shows some support to Sonic fan projects, they’re still a soulless giant multi-million dollar corporation that isn’t their friends. Colors Ultimate and the shit SEGA’s pulling with Sonic Origins’ content is proof of that.

[@ChrisStoneinator]

@@anothergamer112 no "VS", they're both pathetic. Please don't get me started. Suffice to say I don't agree.

[@filipvadas7602]

13:18 I just realised that, as far as the Radicalsoda "lore" is concerned , Incredibazinga and BearGrylls had never met before this

[@MrJingles777]

Always love these videos. Great review and comedic timing as always. 7:44 The "what-a-phile?!?!" really got me. xD

[@whybother5741]

I don’t get the joke.

[@JNSStudios2]

@@whybother5741 the term “audiophile” refers to a person who is an audio fanatic, typically aiming for the highest quality possible when listening to stuff. But it also sounds like “pedophile,” hence Bear Gryll’s reaction

[@WilliamSyler]

If you have subtitles turned on at 5:22, it says [Laughter] as we sees Radical's face. GOTT'EM Also, fantastic new opening!

[@Traximus_sv3]

5:28 well that's extremely upsetting. Your editing is great but lord do you love creeping us out. Never stop man.

[@MasterAlpha1000]

20:00 fun fact: those reused acts was originally planned to be mission stages, that consist to play the exact same acts with some few changes on the level design, just like on Sonic Unleashed. My guess is Sonic Team decided to turn those mission stages into regular acts so that people wouldn't complain that Colors was too short compared to Unleashed.

[@TokyoDrift456]

yup thats exactly why it happened

[@bonzaithehost7643]

Yeah that's why some of the stages in Unleashed and Colors feel so short compared to other lengthy stages.

[@lpfan4491]

The issue is that in doing this, they effectively wrecked the game. At least for me.

[@bonzaithehost7643]

@@lpfan4491 Honestly that's the main issue with Colors. It's not the writing, or the "wisps" (I mean come on guys the Wisps were actually great in Sonic Colors, it's overused in other games like Classic Sonic being good in Generations and trash in Forces), it's not the fact that the game takes place mostly in 2D, or the "blocky platforming", it's the act structure. Originally, this game would've had 2 main acts, like Colors DS, which are around the same length as Generations Modern Sonic stages, and said main acts feature a great mix of 2D and 3D, with platforming that's usually disguised well with the environment. The gimmicky, shorter acts were just missions that weren't supposed to be mandatory, like Generations Missions. What's even worse is that 50% of the main acts got cut in 2 smaller acts, and the game suffers as a result. Had Colors had it's original act structure, the game would've honestly been as good as games like Unleashed and Generations, but akin to more of a "casual" Sonic experience, like the classic games, where you pick up and play the game for an hour and beat it, always having a great time and refining your play-through each time. Colors wouldn't have this whole "blocky, 70% 2D game" that people always talk about. It's a shame Colors never got it's act structure fixed in Ultimate, it would've caused way more people to know about why there are jarring 20 second acts you find through each world, and how the main acts are some of the best levels we got in any Sonic Game. Sorry for going on for so long.

[@lpfan4491]

@@bonzaithehost7643 I personally disagree and think it would still be inferior to the boost-portion of its predecessor(Unwiished). But yeah, it would be 100 times better.

[@lizard81288]

"at least the music is good" I'm waiting for it. During a stream, Jun was playing with Korone from hololive, they asked Jun what he thought of the new soundtrack. He said "no comment" and everybody laughed.

[@Sukaiba69]

Being fair he also did Sonic 4's and also did some of Forces stuff, he ain't exactly free of bland music or shitty instrumentation (or both in the case of the games stated) Perhaps the most obvious example being Shadow the Hedgehog, which was the one he liked the most working on yet most people only remember Sky Troops and Lava Shelter

[@ctpp64]

@@Sukaiba69 also uh, Jun worked on the Colors Ultimate soundtrack lol

[@64bitmodels66]

@@Sukaiba69 shadow's music is great though

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

@@Sukaiba69 sonic 4 has good tunes it's the instruments that suck

[@Sukaiba69]

@sonic 1995 Sonic 4 dying genesis has at most passable composition and undoubtably shitty instrumentation Senoue did aid in Forces and well, Unleashed's so good that Ohtani is still a god in my book, just like how Senoue is still a legend even after shitty Sonic 4

[@MonteScarf]

12:28 I feel like that would be a mercy at this point...

[@bandicootsauce4569]

Yeah, even after the patches, the loading times on the PS4 version are still miserable. I know because I was stupid enough to go back and get all the red rings AND go through the Egg Shuttle mode, and that's a LOT of loading screens to sit through. Yeah, it's still not as bad as the loading times in Sonic '06, but considering that the Wii version of colours, the version that we're supposed to believe is 'inferior' as of now, loads significantly faster... there's just no excuse.

[@bonzaithehost7643]

Xbox one also loads really slow, like over 10 seconds per loading screen? Seriously, the development of this game was horrid (mainly due to blind squirrel higher up and management being terrible and on par with activison blizzard, and sega just giving up and releasing the game in the state it is in).

[@loganflowers9486]

You guys havent seen anything yet, the switch load times are about on par with 06s

[@emperorshark888]

Playing on a Series X off of an external HDD, maybe using the internal ssd would improve the load times but I feel like the HDD shouldn't be slower than a Wii disc drive.

[@JetTheSet02]

Oooooh. The Soda's back complete with a new intro! I'm FEELIN GOOD about this one. *I'll see myself out*

[@Twigs_20]

😔👉🚪

[@Schrodingers_douchebag]

@@Twigs_20 IMPOSTER. GET OUT.

[@leonlegend]

WOO!

[@user-mh5nx5to2t]

I'm honestly glad to have missed out on the glitchy disaster that is Sonic colors ultimate. Mercifully I have not played it let alone gotten the game ever since it has been released.

[@NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois]

I'm glad you're reviewing the game as it was released. Selling a broken product and saying "oh don't worry we'll fix it at some point maybe" would be illegal with any other product, at least in my country. And gaming companies' time constraits are artificial, they could just give people making the games enough time to release a complete product.

[@TokyoDrift456]

idk, they gave the developers an extra year to make this, id imagine that would be enough for most people

[@N_o196]

@@TokyoDrift456 just goes to show how incompetent the management at Sega is lol

[@TokyoDrift456]

@@N_o196 I mean, the developers that worked in it are known among the employees for lying to the publishers and not letting them check their work

[@prokiller4860]

@@TokyoDrift456 so you know that yet sega dont show how incompetent the sega management team are

[@TokyoDrift456]

@@prokiller4860 i mean, bsg has done this before, so its not like its an isolated instance, and me, along with other people only learned about this, AFTER the game came out, so yknow

[@SoulCore413]

3:00 I’m a big fan of this channel and as soon as I heard any clapping, I knew… IT’S BEAR GRYLLS!!!!!

[@BlackKyurem5]

I love Sonic Colours but man was this depressing. Even got hit with a glitch that made my game unplayable until I deleted my save file. Whether you like or hate Sonic Colours, it was a complete game at launch. Seeing the Ultimate version be the complete opposite is ironic and sad

[@jesuspernia8031]

Sonic Colors to me is just okay. 6/10 in my opinion. A lot of the level design is just blocks and there should be more 3D than 2D. Unleashed and Generations did it right. And even in Generations the 2D sections are far less and way better made, so Ultimate should have re-worked the level design like Generations.

[@BlackKyurem5]

@@jesuspernia8031 I can get that criticism for Colours. It's my favourite Sonic game and even I don't call it a 3D Sonic game, though I also refuse to call Generations a 3D Sonic game either because half of the game is entirely in 2D in Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic still has 2D sections in it even if less than Colours. I don't mind the blocky repeat levels too much (even though I rather them be optional levels) because at least they only last at most 2 minutes.

[@RobotGlovesArt]

@@jesuspernia8031 The blocky level design doesn't bother me because the overall level design had the most branching routes I've seen in a modern Sonic game

[@the757general2]

@@BlackKyurem5 I think the biggest problem with the 2D sections is that there's too many stop-and-go sections with the platforming. It's what Marble and Labyrinth Zone were criticized for. Not very Sonic like.

[@the757general2]

@@RobotGlovesArt Modern Sonic in Generations has the most branching routes in modern Sonic.

[@kingbash6466]

If there’s one thing that’s good about Sonic Colors Ultimate is that it brought Radical back from the dead.

[@Alferia]

Sonic Colors Ultimate truly broke my spirit as well, as I still remember when you called me a sad, sad person during your sonic colors ultimate streams when I said that I owned every senran kagura game. To be fair, you are 100% Correct. Totally not doing something stupid out of spite.

[@PersTG]

good games tho. well, now the series is dead

[@gabeskai]

On one hand, I absolutely agree on reviewing games based on how they are released in order to call out the "we'll patch it out later" mentality. But there will be cases where its better to review post update due to scum moves such as adding microtransactions after getting good reviews

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

This is going to be more than just a game review with funny skits. Rob has shown how absolutely livid this game makes him during his streams and has given SEGA the vitriol they deserve. It's going to be a lot like his Pokémon Sword & Shield reviews, especially the later episodes.

[@EuroMIX2]

So the Crash Team Racing remaster? But that's a beloved Mario Kart killer/rival so we don't talk about that one...

[@cleverusername2578]

Game companies going “it’s fine, I’ll patch it later” is like when writers give themselves ‘put in dramatic action scene’ notes in underdeveloped chapters. They still write a finished book before they publish it!

[@mermaidscalz]

Wow, it’s nice seeing RadicalSoda upload again. It makes me happy

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Same! I missed his videos honestly! He is funny and does good reviews!

[@chrisfratz]

You want to know the worst part about the sound mixing? The way they fixed it in the patch was by having the game down mix everything to mono. No, I am not bullshiting you that is the official "fix".

[@123darkelf]

*Sets up a noose* welp I’m fed up with this world.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@123darkelf Could you repeat that?

[@123darkelf]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 Nah.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@123darkelf WHAT!?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE BAD AUDIO!

[@123darkelf]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 WHAT?!

[@T1t4N-p3d]

15:52 idk why this part killed me harder than it should.

[@kempolar9768]

11:30 OH GOD I THOUGHT IT WAS A CARDBOARD CUT OUT WHY DID YOU MAKE A 3D MODEL THATS FREAKY!!??

[@PhirePhlame]

The devs, Blind Squirrel, have a pretty rich history of screwing things up like this. They tend to be very secretive about progress, from what I hear, and are more than content to just let the company that hired them take the blame for their shit. Also, they apparently used the open-source Godot Engine for SCU, and neglected to properly present the credit in a user-accessible way (a requirement of the MIT license that Godot is under).

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

I love the Caddicarus, Brutalmoose and PBG type style of editing and script writing. It’s so damn satisfying! Thanks for the great videos!

[@nman551]

Don’t forget jontron coming out every once in a while.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

@@nman551 a bit of both old school jontron and new school fs

[@nman551]

@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs yep

[@AerialSong]

10:16 I legit didn't notice tails until I replayed this part. Eugh

[@bandicootsauce4569]

8:12 Yeah, that obnoxious PEW sound when homing attacking is still prominent in the game even after multiple patches. It's literally the one thing they still haven't fixed at this point... or at least the one thing they haven't fixed that still irks me. Edit: Well, that and the loading times, but I've already talked about those in a previous comment.

[@IgnatiusBlaze4]

11:45... maybe it's just me because I'm playing a Pokemon game while watching... but it sounds like Ho-Oh's screech right around here.

[@calemr]

"People Liked Sonic Colours? Man, we fucked up... Let's try again." - Sega, presumably.

[@TokyoDrift456]

nah, they just outsourced to a seemingly reputable company with a seemingly good track record while they work on their big project, from what i hear even gave them an extra year to develop the game from what i hear

[@abicrystalwing1543]

@@TokyoDrift456 it's still Sega's fault for the poor management, and they still decided to release it in that state.

[@TokyoDrift456]

@@abicrystalwing1543 the developer is known among the employees for lying to publishers and not letting them check their work, furthermore they are known for being piss poor at resource managment, sega hired them because they didnt know about this, as far as they were concerned, bsg was just an averga studio with a decent track record at making remasters, since their previous works had all gotten good reviews, and besides, theyd already delayed the game for a year, things just cant be delayed indefinately

[@abicrystalwing1543]

@@TokyoDrift456 That is quite interesting, do you have a source where I read more about that?

[@sonicmeerkat]

@@TokyoDrift456 again though, you'd think sega would do a test print of a disc and play that. and even if that isn't possible for whatever dumb fuck reason just don't hire people who won't let you see progress??

[@megasoniczxx]

14:56 I feel like this applies to a lot of big game companies nowadays.

[@RyderPlatinumWarpstar]

When this game was releasing, I saw the 8/10s, got hopeful that they didn’t screw up the remaster, but then I saw everyone else talking about it online… And my heart sank. This is one of the biggest lows for the franchise.

[@Nagoshichao]

12:49 SONIC ARE YOU OK? YOUR EYE IS GOING THROUGH YOUR EYELID

[@VictorMcKnight]

Thank you for letting me arrange your new intro theme! Looks great, all put together!! 💙

[@KiraAotsuki]

Ok I was NOT expecting “Tails” to move there with your editing xD well done, freaked me out

[@tomsmurf4225]

Buying an unfinished game that'll get patched later is like if you ordered a plate of French fries at a restaurant and they just handed you a peeled potato.

[@demorunnertimmedrt4432]

11:24 never did I ever think I would love the day to hear tails say the name Rainbow Dash. Yea I think it's reasonable to say I'm a brony.

[@Everik-ct6pg]

Honestly, the only problem i see with this “play games unpatched” thing is that people who skip the intro and go straight for the first bit of gameplay don't know you're playing unpatched, so they believe that this is just what the game is, updates and all. The only way to get around this is to constantly say that the game is unpatched throughout the review.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Or people with bad internet, or people with not enough storage space

[@WhimsicottFanatic]

"What's the first thing you think of when I say 'Sonic Colors?'" Probably the disembodied announcer that announces the Wisp power names and, of course: *GOOD* *GREAT* *AWESOME* *OUTSTANDING* *A M A Z I N G*

[@enteikarino6921]

Gotta say, review aside, that section from 5:12 - 6:45 is so well composed. I was rolling over bits you did for the stuttering and the exposure.

[@L._Vireo]

I don’t usually make comments like these, but this upload was super well timed for me. You’re one of my favorite KZbinrs and I was feeling pretty sick today, so seeing an upload from you today after so long felt really nice. Keep on keepin on Rad. 👍

[@TeamMeunierYT]

Me when someone mentions NFTs to me: 1:19 (EDIT: ...Soda, you wanna talk about this thumbnail, my dude? Who uh... Who- who's on the right there, eh? Who- who's that? WHO IN THE *FFFU-*

[@Khyon521]

The ability to download patches is the greatest/worst thing, on one hand it allows them to give us more content of the game like smash ultimate DLC for example, on the other hand it gives an excuse for companies to release an unfinished product with the notion of “oh we’ll just pass it out later7

[@azure4622]

Patches should only be for balancing and the odd bug, it shouldn't be used as a crutch to release unfinished games. Sadly I'm just some guy so i can't change the industry

[@BrokenAce1295]

*@Khyon* I would argue that patches were a bad thing even for Smash Bros Ultimate because of how many there were to the point of making the game too big for its own good. The Switch itself only has 32 GB in internal memory, so with Smash Bros Ultimate taking up close to 16.3 GB, that's half of the Switch's internal memory and less room for other games. That leads to people having to spend extra money in buying Micro SD cards in order to fit in more games, along with their updates. That's exactly why Radicalsoda streamed Colors Ultimate and Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl unpatched since he was unable to update those games with little memory space on his Switch and he also wanted to play the games as they were originally released.

[@azure4622]

@@BrokenAce1295 i understand what you're saying but that's not really the patches fault. Say they released the full game, then it should have the same size including the patch. Anyways size isn't something i was talking about.

[@BrokenAce1295]

@@azure4622 Actually, it is the patches' fault, or at least partly, since the game should've been released in its finished state without people not only having to resort to buying more SD cards, but also needing to have Wi-Fi access in order to repetitiously update the game with its patches. Some may not have good enough Wi-Fi access, so they're out of luck when it comes to keeping the games up to date. It's also the fault of Nintendo for making the Switch have little memory space in its internal memory to fit a number of games in it. Also, for your information, I wasn't talking to you in the first place, I was talking to Khyon. Read carefully before posting next time.

[@azure4622]

@@BrokenAce1295 ah wait, i was thinking digital only. Yeah i completely agree because of the fact physical releases exist that should've never happened.

[@venomase5572]

I still remember where I was when this video came out. Don't even watch this guy but I remember this moment

[@Bobb11881]

"If a couple of fans can do it, then what's your excuse, Sega?" That should be the Sonic franchise's motto.

[@TokyoDrift456]

i mean sega didnt do anything, as a matter of fact the developers set their own deadline, and iirc sega was okay with giving them an extra year to make sure it was done right

[@Bobb11881]

@@TokyoDrift456 Knowing Sega's track record, I have a very hard time believing that.

[@TokyoDrift456]

@@Bobb11881 well you better believe it soldier, because thats just plain truth among the other shit things the developers do, they are known among the employees as being a shit place to work at, the higher ups are shit at resource managment, they lie to the publisher, not let them check their work, and said higher ups actively trash talk former employees on public forums, and sega wasnt aware of any of this because they seemingly had a good track record with making remasters that get good reviews, and their website makes them out to be a reputable company that fosters a "stress free environment" and "doesnt believe in crunch"

[@Bobb11881]

@@TokyoDrift456 Most of what you just said also applies to Sega. It's well-known that Sega is terrible at time management and has a habit of rushing games. They also completely screwed over Big Red Button.

[@TokyoDrift456]

@@Bobb11881 yea well, this time, they learned from their mistake, and had someone else make it in their place, its kinda sad, really

[@hoosegow2087]

Hey man! Glad to see you uploading again :) Been a fan since Generations Level Mods (how was that already 4 years ago?!) Anyway, I just wanted to compliment you on your work for this episode. The writing, editing, acting, and most importantly, the jokes were all top notch. I'd gladly take less frequent episodes if it means quality to this standard. Keep up the good work!

[@Lam1ty]

The new intro hit me hard. Was expecting that "nostalgia" rollercoaster intro, not the ULTIMATE version! Also, nice one-hand Sonic Heroes box flip, that was smooth.

[@kingofthebis1068]

I missed you Rob glad to see you back on the main channel

[@EnzoZambrotti]

Never been this happy with a Notification, glad to see you back Funny Soda Man.

[@outofideasexe]

Only thing I hate more than "patch it later" mentality is "come back for part 2" mentality

[@Triadus56]

"Blue streak speeds by... AAGH!" Starting off strong! 🤣

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

All this does is upsets me more that Rob and his friends aren't singers

[@loafuwu]

15:16 I’ve played the Nintendo switch version and the cutscenes never lagged so much like this.

[@crcoghill]

15:20 oof~ and from IGN of all people. you know: The people who let some rando say "Sonic was Never Good".... except when he is but also when he isn't. IGN: they don't know what to say about games.

[@dnzl638yt]

If they think that a 8/10 rating will be a great apology for the mistakes they have done, well it is not working and it never will.

[@TeamEmerald3]

-Sonic origins trailer releases- Radical soda: -I sleep- -Sonic colors ultimate exists- Radical soda: -Real shit-

[@TheMadRatKing]

The fact that a game’s “remaster” STARTS OUT worse than the original, and doesn’t even fix the previous bugs is pathetic beyond belief.

[@christian8657]

15:57 on the right ;)

[@RhyperiorRanger]

19:45 oh thank god. That’s part of what made me stop playing. Now I can go back and finish it

[@Trizic_]

Bro I haven't seen Radical video's in YEAR'S. And I gotta say. I had a good time watching this. This was so damn hilarious I honestly miss watching his video's Lol

[@ToaArcan]

SEGA were facing an open goal and still managed to trip over the ball, twist their ankle, and break all of their ribs.

[@TokyoDrift456]

you do know they didnt make this game, right, it was the developer they hired, a developer that is known among their employees to lie to publishers about their work, hell sega delayed it for a year and they still couldnt get it right

[@leonelegender]

5:15 ah yes this version of this song brings tears to my eyes everytime, cheers m8

[@AD3Supa]

Thank you! I'm tired of the "we'll patch it later" mentality that's plagued the industry.

[@Robo92]

When the world needed him most....HE APPEARED

[@_-Lx-_]

Sega certainly has a track record lately of their remasters/remakes, From Nocturne to Banana Mania to this sewage to the upcoming Orgins. All four have atrocious monetization/pricing and plenty of business controversies, and Banana Mania and Ultimate are actively worse than the originals in many ways. Being a SEGA fan is suffering.

[@abicrystalwing1543]

I'm curious, what happened with Nocturne, currently playing the original version, didn't know there was an HD remaster until I was like 10 hours in. Edit: Read the reviews on steam and holy crap, that's pretty sad.

[@sonicthehedge]

I feel like this is the punishment for accepting bad quality games over two decades. The fact that Sonic 06, one of the worst games of all time was still successful really says alot.

[@femorllarina9395]

This fucking channel is the most entertaining thing on KZbin, even when I watch the hour long episodes I go "Wait- Over already??" perfect with people with no attention span

[@ONESIE-art-guy]

10:40 that was a clever way of showing it, well done 👍🏻

[@xProErax]

Finally the man has returned as well as bringing Sonic with him

[@mreverything7056]

I’d realistically only agree with the “patch it later” mentality if it’s an Indie game or a studio doing something they’ve never done before. NOT FOR A REMASTER THAT ADDS MORE GLITCHES THEN THE ORIGINAL

[@arkauthor]

Yes, finally. Totally worth the wait, love you Rad.

[@crossveilkyt]

You fuckin' panned the audio for that joke and I appreciate it so damn much. Good review. Definitely need to talk about the fact that game RELEASED THIS WAY.

[@LadyofGreen99]

Oh shit, remixed intro! Glad to see you!

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

Any day we get a RadicalSoda update is a good day. In regards to Sonic, we have to hinge all our hopes on Frontiers. Now that the dummies who wrote most of the previous games are out and Ian is in, we’ll see competent writing and maybe finally hear Roger in a good Sonic role.

[@MegaGlassguy]

Alas, while this does spark some hope for the story itself, there is still much doubt to be had when it comes to the game's gameplay and world design, two aspects that need to be nailed if this is truly supposed to be a step in the right direction.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Don't get your hopes up. The reason why the level designers weren't good for Forces is because SEGA scared them off with their terrible working conditions.

[@CastellANM]

7:19 you know what's even worse, on the Wii they always face the screen so this doesn't happen 🤣

[@swankylime228]

Loving the new intro!

[@JAXTAROO]

was literally bingeing your stuff for a whole day yesterday AND HERE YOU ARE with a new vid. Talk about timing for me

[@originalkingdomhearts]

It really is sad that people today just ignore this issue of games being half finished. Legit, people on twitter argue with me that isn't not a big deal and I should let people enjoy it and to shut up. No I'm going to call out shitty business practices, just because you're okay with being ripped off doesn't mean I want to.