Sonic Forces: Death Egg Robot Final Boss Fight

[@HappyPotat]

"Normal weapons won't work" With the exception of these rocks. They're just REALLY hard.

[@The94Venom]

Killer Croc would be proud.

[@ninjajoe95]

That, or Mania Sonic is insanely strong. I call him that simply because he has the drop dash. Pretty much confirms it

[@darkfiend76]

Ninjajoe95 How does drop dash confirm strength?

[@mrmadaigo3108]

darkfiend76 I think it's because only Mania sonic has drop dash that they can confirm it's them

[@QuestionableLogic_]

Little Rex Rex But the Sonic from Mania and Generations are the same

[@entermaidtheelegant2513]

Funny that Eggman was completely silent and not seen after all this.

[@lgteles]

Entermaid The Elegant HE'S DEAD?

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Why was he so silent?

[@leoadian1229]

Manuel Alberto Romero Guess we'll find out in the Shadow DLC The mere fact that they wanted to do a last minute dlc was that they realized they didn't have much context on the story

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

+Leo Adian But that's a prequel. How's that going to explain why he was silent during the final battle?

[@fleecemanjenkins6648]

Come to think of it, we didn't see Classic Eggman at all in Forces. Did he die too?

[@thatbleachedcat8218]

my biggest complaint with this boss is the fact that eggman isn't taunting/hurling out insults at you the whole fight.

[@bendycentral3419]

its probably because eggman had enough

[@_------------_]

He is focused on killing you no more games

[@DecongiterateGMD]

The parasite, shall, S P E A K

[@gogetablue942]

He was locked in

[@LEtheCreator]

"But we'll be friends forever! Right, Shadow and Omega!?"

[@theextremeanimator4721]

Daniel von Strangle Infinite *_is NOT_* dead.

[@milesprowerxinfinity]

@TheExtremeGamer Well he of meant his edge is dead and not Infinite.

[@Willydiaz3791]

@@milesprowerxinfinity infinite disappeared

[@SB-lm4dk]

@@Willydiaz3791And mephiles?

[@bjkaye9918]

@@Willydiaz3791 I wonder where he is?

[@isntpuddy]

Sonic 2: *FAT DEATH EGG ROBOT* Sonic Generations: *FAT DEATH EGG ROBOT* Sonic Mania: *UPGRADED FAT DEATH EGG ROBOT* Sonic 4 EP1: *UPGRADED FAT DEATH EGG ROBOT* Sonic Forces: *INFINITE BIG DEATH EGG ROBOT WITH ALIEN DEATH EGG ROBOT*

[@bortverde]

Sonic & Knuckles: *GIANT DEATH EGG ROBOT*

[@norfsyq9660]

*Sega

[@Flygalia]

Sonic Lost World: *FAT DEATH EGG ROBOT WITH BASICALLY SPIRAL POWER*

[@zetawatch]

Flygon the Weeb mountain dew power actually

[@Signerdragon123]

LEGO Dimensions: DEATH EGG ROBOT Eggman: Oh you genius. Who would have expected a Death Egg Robot? Sonic: Yeah, this is like the fourth time you've used it. (No kidding, that's actual dialogue in the boss fight there)

[@mageofshadow]

Death Egg Robot phase 1 and Death Egg Robot phase 2 AKA "Your basic Sonic Lost World boss" and "Recycled Nega-Wisp Armor coding".

[@adoezy9979]

GAMP: Destroyer of Liberalism yet they failed

[@truearea53]

Your so correct. And don’t forget they copied the same attack phase from sonic colors

[@owlstagawn1106]

How did the Death Egg become just a giant robot resembling Eggman, to some Eldritch lookalike?

[@DisasterEnby]

owlstag awn the Eldritch lookalike was stored within the Death Egg Robot, so when the Custom Character destroyed the Death Egg Robot, Eggman took control of the Eldritch lookalike and escaped the Desth Egg robot.

[@hotrodthe1]

the pessimistic potato I don’t think that’s what happened

[@sonicrunn3r895]

As soon as I saw phase one being called a death egg robot, my first thought was “THAT ISN'T A DEATH EGG ROBOT!” When I saw the final phase, I thought “That is STILL not a death egg robot!”

[@kurimc.mystic5341]

owlstag awn Remember that the power of the phantom ruby can corrupt the form of machines as shown by the hard boiled heavies. Especially the heavy king transforming into the phantom king.

[@MetalMephiles9000]

The Death Egg Robot has been destroyed and repaired so many times, it turned into this. The moral of the story is, don't reuse the same boss more than three times. It becomes an Eldritch Abomination.

[@lisabarnes924]

Final battle: Eggman: Have some rocks! >:) Sonic: *Hits backs rocks* Eggman: Oh no I’m getting defeated by rocks!

Lisa Barnes Oh no these Boom pathetic lines goosebumps references!

[@quintondent5647]

I threw a rock at him! -Killer Croc

[@The_Twero]

Eggman: "Oh, that was unexpected."

[@bin8350]

Its like link and Ganondorf but somehow funnier 🤣🤣

[@bucket9486]

Nega Wisp Armor 3.0

[@G5onicDmi]

yep

[@commandertaco1762]

Bucketninja nega wisp armor apple Mac edition

[@Stormfalcon2018]

EGG HYDRAGOND

[@quintondent5647]

Bucketninja

[@antasmax5480]

4.0 Sonic colours WII U Sonic colours DS Sonic lost world Sonic Forces

[@NintendoFanatic2001]

I think Eggman was silent because he's busy focusing on kill them

[@deltamachine343]

It feels odd. Like if you were fighting a dead man. Kinda feels empty and scary.

[@OmarsWorldOfficial]

@@deltamachine343 but he is right! i’ve tried fighting people in some games and when i kept talking and taunting it slowed me down, talking is not gonna put you anywhere at all, seriousness is the power, i have learnt that jokes sometime have to be used in the right place at the right time.

[@humbertoquackenbush3932]

4:22 Oh hey, Sonic Colors final boss. Didn’t expect you to show up.

[@e-tean-son4146]

Fun fact: there Is a mission that requires to beat it in 4:30 minutes, which can be quite challenging because of the animation before phase 3, thankfully it's not a turn base fight since now you have to get boost to aproach him

[@silverwinterwolf2064]

there is a few questions that are left un answered, What happened to Infinite?, What happened to Eggman? and most importantly, What happened to the Phantom Ruby?

[@blueflare7687]

Neonlight The Doomhog 1. Infinite was an illusion with effects on the physical plane created by the Phantom Ruby. When the original Infinite is defeated, he is sent back to the base and then thousands of him are brought out to fight against the resistance, but all disappear after the final boss is beaten. 2. No idea what happened to Eggman. We beat him and that's it. We don't see where he went. Granted after you beat the game Eggman has control over 0.1% of the world, so he might appear in a secret ending. 3. We can assume the Phantom Ruby was destroyed in the final boss. Since the Ruby was being used to power the final boss, we can assume that the final blow against the boss destroyed the Ruby, thus destroying all the illusions.

[@silverwinterwolf2064]

i guess thats true

[@ToonCatTV]

What about the fucking egg emperor heavy?

[@derekoprandi5442]

Dirty Dan the ruby had to be destroyed with the triple boost because if it wasnt destroyed then the clones would still be fighting

[@chaoschannel3428]

Nothing happened. *Literally.*

[@MrRasengan]

Sonic Heroes has an amazing final boss fight plus a kick ass theme song ending.

[@sameryounis9118]

MrRasengan and voice acting to

[@75JUNAKI]

samer younis yep Ryan will always be my fav sonic voice actor along with the original voice actors

[@fissilewhistle]

MrRasengan That It did. Too bad it was wasted on a game like Sonic Heroes.

[@depressedlemonshit759]

Sonic Heros will always be the greatest and best sonic game ever and there will never be another new sonic game better then sonic heros

[@brog4037]

However, the final phase IS an exact ripoff of sonic color's final boss, which BTW was also ripped off by sonic lost world's final boss, meaning this is the third time they used the "arms firing lasers and moving from lane to lane" boss ina sonic game

[@thelaughingskeleton1539]

Wait chaos and shadow arent a boss shadow i could understand but chaos isnt thats really dissapointing

[@austinmorrison6953]

XD Dutchman yeah considering chaos was in the trailer. And come on! No super sonic boss? Seriously?

[@pipipsy]

Austin Morrison Super Sonic will be in Version 1.01, the day one patch.

[@slappymouse]

Mizell Jackson confirmed?

[@nikoladelov3531]

I imagined we the custom hero collected all the chaos emerald's (yes ik they are not in game) and then chaos appeared and stole them and transformed into perfect chaos and we battled him.

[@Soul-the-Mysterious]

Chaos was in the game but he was put out really quickly

[@Nite-Rise]

You gotta give Eggman credit. He knows how to make some powerful robots

[@thegoose6895]

I want him too win

[@Deridiya]

@@thegoose6895 for once, i actually want that

[@AriesScarlet]

For sure

[@Zenomarinw_927]

Yeah but those robots smh betrayed him in sonic heroes

[@PLANDerLinde99]

@@Deridiya I mean. Forces is the closest we got to Robotnik winning

[@liviekumori]

That final boss music is incredible

[@letsmakepancakes3]

It’s pretty sad that a game made by fans is getting better reviews than the game actually made by Sonic Team

[@jtapisue9489]

letsmakepancakes yeah, it makes me sad m, this game is gonna flop, only the kids will get it. I'm tired of sonic games portrayed like Barney and friends. Mania is where sonic hardcore fans are really at. Hopefully they take mania under the wing and start making games like mania. I already lost hope that they'll ever do fames even as decent as adventures or sonic heroes.

[@RandomPerson-oh6nj]

jtapi sue Not only kids but I do know most are probably getting it for the customizable character, which can I just mention all the crappy background characters at the end? They all look like shitty DeviantArt OCs made by children to me, minus eye bleeding colors.

[@Electro21964]

Sonic getting tortured for months and teenagers fighting in a war from a dictator who took over 99% of the world with a sadistic mercenary who can make illusions is Barney and Friends?

[@jtapisue9489]

Jamie Grabow I didn't see no torture, teenagers? They're animals lol, conquered? Sure doesn't seem like it, you mean the background with the robots? That's just level design, heck in sonic adventures 2 when robotnik blew up the moon (i think half)that felt more menancing. I might be wrong, and you may be right, but to me this might just be a pg13 eggman and that's ok, but don't make the game too easy, with minions who don't attack, levels that last 1 minute, having sonic speed run levels automatically. It takes all the fun away, and little kids might like that, but I grew up with sonic 1 on Sega, my first game, and also sonic 2, 3, and knuckles being the more challenging one. Those games will kick this sonic forces ass anytime. Go get a real sonic game and enjoy yourself. I recommend sonic adventures 1 and 2, also sonic heroes. Fuck this little kids shit, bring us sonic mania 2, FUCK!!

[@Electro21964]

Sonic was tortured for six months. Yes, the Sonic characters are teenagers. The oldest one is Rouge, being eighteen. Also, we see Infinite killing innocent people with his lasers.

[@austinmorrison6953]

What no super sonic battle against infinite? Why not?! For that matter...where the hell is the fight against chaos?!

[@moonraven6145]

yeah that's I was hoping, Super Sonic Vs Hyper Infinity or something, this fight is pretty disappointing by the looks of it

[@pipipsy]

SUPER SONIC WILL BE IN THE DAY ONE PATCH.

[@fenniken5381]

if only infinite can use the phantom ruby prototype and "rookie" could use it, is it possible that rookie is the real infinite and the boss one is another phantom ruby copy?

[@austinmorrison6953]

Mizell Jackson that better include a secret true final boss against infinity.

[@pipipsy]

Austin Morrison I hope so too. He just disappeared so suddenly.

[@Khyon521]

Phantom Hydragoon shouldve been the name of the final boss

[@StarWarriorKirby]

K-leb Harper Should be called Nega Phantom Wisp.

[@marcosandrey5059]

I shall name it Phantom reactor

[@SonicTheSpeedy]

lol

[@regiboi7709]

Phantom Overlord would work pretty well.

[@paperpal21]

Infinite Hydragoon

[@komasan8028]

Bro the final death egg robot theme is so good!

[@doctorwhooves6510]

Hot take time: Sonic commenting on how Eggman's plan will fail like they always do is one of Roger's best lines as Sonic

[@Hyp3rSonic]

AGREE

[@OpThomastic118]

Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with this game's bosses if that's all of them. Three of them are the same person, Infinite. There's only 7. Some of them feel pretty similar in some ways. There was no Chaos or Shadow bosses. And the third, running phase of this final boss reminds me a bit too much of the final boss from Sonic Colors. But hey, the gameplay overall looks pretty good and smooth. And that's including the custom character's gameplay. The soundtrack was almost never in any doubt for quality, cause it's Sonic. And the animation looks nice in cutscenes. I'll more then likely still get this cause of the lower price tag then usual AAA games.

[@phrobss7149]

Chaos is powerless aganst sonic widot the chaos emerald

[@marciver5028]

Maybe Chaos will be in the Episode Shadow DLC.

[@SharpestSniper99]

I'll admit that the number of bosses and who they are kinda look disappointing but as long as they are fun to fight then that will be an ok compensation for that.

[@fenniken5381]

and they did look fun. besides, this is just the boss stages. maybe there's "mini-bosses" at the end of some of the stages? that or chaos and shadow are "random grunts". which means the main 4 past villains are copies made by the phantom ruby? didn't expect that.

[@arealfuckingtool5165]

DONT DISS SONIC CHOICES

[@zzeroara9511]

For the first phase,when he slams his arm down,they should have done what happened in the final boss for Rush,where you run up his arm and jump on his head. That'd make this a lot more creative,and maybe worth the time

[@bortverde]

Or like Generations Death Egg Robot

[@o.h.x-9062]

Since Eggman was silent during the boss battle, here are some lines I came up with: Phase 1 Eggman: “Feel the wrath of my new and improved Death Egg Robot, Sonic! Let’s start with your past self!” Phase 2: Eggman: “No! My Death Egg Robot can’t fly! …I’m not finished yet! Prepare to die, you ungrateful rookie!” Phase 3: Eggman: “AHH! My Death Egg Robot! …Now you’ve done it… You hunk of junk! Let me out!! …This is it, Sonic! I will destroy you all with my true power!” Defeat: Eggman: “No! But I was so close! I was going to win this time!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!”

[@HackerMan203]

"i will destroy you with my true power!" NEGA WISP ARMOR 3.0

[@PurpleGuyishere]

This shit is ass I love it

[@andrewjohnson7474]

Anybody else feel like the scene where the final boss machine comes out of the big robot’s chest was inspired by the chest bursting scene from Alien?

[@randomguy1403]

So i got it. Death Egg. Thats Alot of Sense.

[@Krysta1Rose]

T R U E D A T

[@Bangbanggooberblat69]

R O C K S C A N D E F E A T E G G M A N

[@evanatorextreme1065]

Has anyone noticed the similarities? The Death Egg Robot looks a bit like Dark Gaia? Edit: Six Arms,even if the extra 4 on the M.D.E.R. are just there and don’t function,they’re still there. Just like “Perfect Dark Gaia” having Six Arms. Tail Like Body,even though you can see in Phase 2 that the tail actually has an end to it and Dark Gaia’s snake like body doesn’t,it’s still there. “Face” Fired Lasers. This one might seem a little stupid,but you know I’m right. Dark Gaia fires a Mouth Kamehameha,and the M.D.E.R. has it’s face firing laser.

[@terasuul2860]

No secret/extra boss fight for collecting all the red rings? That's sad.

[@deltamachine343]

Not sad, but disappointing.

[@stormfall1130]

Seriously,why did they only spend 1 year in developing this? What were they doing in those 4 years?

[@ajaxmaxbitch]

​@@stormfall1130making the Hedgehog engine

[@FaunaAtic]

I wonder what the day one patch will add besides Super Sonic as it did mention level balancing I believe?

[@jamarcusdavis4023]

FaunaAtic I heard that it will add balancing to levels and bosses. I hope that means the boss fights will be harder. They look too easy for my tastes.

[@entermaidtheelegant2513]

FaunaAtic there's also more Avatar outfits being added as well

[@Leet-iz2fz]

_Will_ it add Super Sonic? Honestly, if the naturally-discovered Phantom Ruby's illusions in _Sonic Mania_ were strong enough to hurt Super forms and created a _real, functioning dimensional portal_ by reacting with the Chaos Emeralds, Super Sonic or even Hyper Sonic should’ve been a part of the story for _Forces._

[@Tanks870]

The Patch changes the worldmap a little bit. And no it becomes easier. First the lost rings were gone after a Hit. Now we can recollect them again as in the other games.

[@megacrashthehedgehog5377]

So I wouldn't call this a bad game. It had great music like always, and the concept of a world ruled by Eggman was one that I was personally excited to see. And the gameplay for Modern Sonic was for the most part really good. But Classic Sonic served absolutely no purpose in this game, the boss fights were really weak, and 50% of the dialogue is really corny. Not Sonic Heroes levels of corny but there were a lot of lines that felt like they were trying way too hard! Yeah the voice acting got a significant improvement, but the material they were given with didn't have much good stuff. So I think that Sonic Forces ended up turning out to be a pretty ok game.

[@bakedbeans5494]

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[@somerandomguyontheinternet2955]

@@bakedbeans5494 🤡 🤓

[@somerandomguyontheinternet2955]

@@bakedbeans5494 learn how to take an opinion you clown

[@bakedbeans5494]

@@somerandomguyontheinternet2955 Cringe.

[@somerandomguyontheinternet2955]

@@bakedbeans5494 double cringe

[@BlueeBlur]

I know the game didn't do good in reviews and things like that.. But honestly I really enjoyed it. Sure the story and characters may be goofy and all but it would really have potential if Sega put in more effort. Other than that I really like the game.

[@eatatjoes5238]

7:55 Fun fact: in Sonic Mania WE have the "Encore" mode. Sonic Mania Adventures is a cartoon base on the "Encore" mode. At start, classic Sonic returns to the "Angel Island" with the same pose like here (7 : 55).

[@HackerMan203]

But in adventures eggman is defeated by knuckles punch while in mania plus he is sent to sonic forces

[@zyntugwarlime5726]

As copied the boss battle was, I really enjoyed beating it

[@RangerTroll]

Despite the mediocre boss fight, you gotta admit that the music at the final phase gives you that great feeling and can even make up for it if you're the right person who felt the same way I did.

[@TheDen-ec9xe]

The music is the most forgettable shit ever bruh....

[@RangerTroll]

The music is the best thing in a Sonic game.

fist bump wants a word with you

[@TheDen-ec9xe]

Lucas o Goku Black Apelão The instrumental version maybe. Because the vocal is shit. And that title is still awful.

[@TheDen-ec9xe]

Hoden Beutel When it's good music, like Unleashed or Secret Rings or even 06. Not here, where just a handful tracks are decent.

[@captainhuntank7963]

A combo of all the previous battles Ok now that is kinda clever

[@thesonicartist8112]

Captain Huntank more lazy than clever tbh

[@leoadian1229]

The SONIC Artist fuck off lol, it was clever af

[@garfieldpuzzlebox5410]

Right, recycling nega wisp for the third time was clever

[@marcossierra3498]

Leo Adian so clever to see Nega Wisp 3.0

[@blu7218]

[Insert Opinion Here]

[@antiStrikerS]

Eggman: "Eat these rocks >:)" Sonic: *parries em back like a walk on a saturday morning with slightly-humid-but-not-enough-to-cause-rain weather Eggman: "Wait, that's illegal! "

[@pick414]

I like how in the end when they were talking about the custom character shadow didnt move EVEN A INCH

[@apersonnamedjune]

So basically, normal weapons can't damage the Death Egg Robot (I feel like they could've given it a better name), yet fucking rocks work just fine?

[@iam4026]

To be fair, either Rouge was just afraid of that Death Egg Robot or those rocks were launched from Classic Sonic, the same guy who took out the egg dragoon earlier on

[@Densester]

"And we'll be friends forever!" "WE ALL DID IT TOGETHER!!!"

[@joshvlogs2578]

It was kinda sad when the classic sonic had to go back to his timeline also who thinks sega should remake the orginal game

[@brandoncash3775]

This really plays out like a less-disastrous version of Sonic '06, except instead of wiping out the events of the game, they just leave it without any real resolution. Really though, this whole game feels like a slightly more polished version of Sonic '06. Emphasis on "slightly". Instead of being a legendary disaster, it's just...disappointing. They had all of these good ideas, but they weren't willing to commit to them. For Christ's sake, they had all this time to polish everything and put effort into it (they didn't even have to rush to meet the anniversary deadline this time), but yet again, they fail to deliver. When _fans who have worked on various other fan projects_ are capable of churning out a better product than *the main team responsible for most of the mainline Sonic games* you know there's something seriously wrong with management. I just...can't summon the words to describe how frustrating this all is. I know this franchise can be better; it _has_ the potential to reach the same level of polish and quality as some of its earlier titles. If Sonic Team would just wake up and *_try_* to improve their product, the franchise wouldn't be quite _as_ infamously base-splitting as it is now.

[@The94Venom]

From what I've read, the Japanese branch of Sega is mainly to blame, with the European and American branch having had to scream at them about how stupid some of their ideas were. One of said ideas was to have the Avatar being the only one to face the final boss, with the two Sonics doing fuck all during the entire fight.

[@iam4026]

For real? Scream at them? LOL

[@The94Venom]

I mean, not really SCREAM at them, but they apparently had to insist on some of their ideas being crap.

[@brandoncash3775]

So basically the Avatar was supposed to hog all the spotlight and sideline the actual heroes of the story instead of ultimately going with this? Sounds like some bona-fide bad fanfiction gone official. You hear that, SEGA? *_You took bad ideas from shitty fanfiction AND MADE IT OFFICIAL._* It's really a damn shame that Sega of Japan has so much control over the franchise, yet they don't seem to have any idea on where they want to go with it (and half the time, I almost forget that it's even made by Japan because it feels so Western-made). They should've been going all out with this game, but instead of feeling like a huge celebration of Sonic's entire history, it feels just like any other Sonic game that has come out in the last few years. And yet it's getting high marks from people who are just glossing over its obvious flaws. If I had control over the direction of the game, here's how I would've done it: - Actually have the Phantom Ruby warp reality instead of making illusions. It was implied the whole way through to the release (or rather, leak) of the game that the Phantom Ruby was capable of completely warping reality...not this illusion shit that gives the game no meaning or impact. Additionally, more use should've been gotten out of it, considering how much of an impact it was supposed to have on the story. Certainly, you'd think it'd get the most use in the final boss fight. - Give the supporting cast more of a role in the story. It's been damn near forever since any of the characters outside of Sonic and Tails have had _anything_ to do in a mainline Sonic game (and even Tails gets the short end of the stick here for some reason) and they honestly need some spotlight. Without them doing anything, it makes it look like Sonic and Tails are doing all the work in saving the world and makes the games feel a lot less lively and its world less lived-in. And while I can understand that people don't want a return to the gameplay roulette days of Sonic Adventure...honestly, I wouldn't really mind the different gameplay styles returning in a more refined form; it'd at least give players more to do than the same old worn-out Unleashed-style gameplay we've had since 2009 and give more of a boost in presence to the supporting cast. - Make Zavok, Shadow, Chaos and Metal Sonic the real characters and not just illusory copies. It's a huge cop-out that characters previously turned good haven't had their pasts warped by the Phantom Ruby. Zavok was already evil to begin with and Metal Sonic was already made with the express purpose of matching Sonic in his abilities and beating him, so they would join back up with Eggman in a heartbeat. The Phantom Ruby corrupting Shadow and Chaos would've been an interesting turn of events; imagine if Chaos were never soothed, torn apart by the revelation that all Chao have been wiped out. Imagine if Maria never existed or was killed before Shadow could be launched to Earth, allowing Gerald to shape him into the ultimate killing machine as he intended. Think of all of the interactions that could happen between the characters who know those two and seeing them corrupted into such a state. - Let the Phantom Ruby's influence not only show very real damage to Sonic's universe, but also cover damn near the entirety of Sonic's history as a true celebration of the history of the franchise. This should go without saying. Now, obviously, they won't be able to cover absolutely *everything* the franchise has to offer (console limitations and all that), but wouldn't it be nice to see some of the more obscure parts of the franchise come back into the forefront? Sonic Mania did that, so why not do the same thing for Sonic Forces? - Bring back some elements of Sonic Mania for Sonic Forces. We don't really know what happened to the Hard-Boiled Heavies after the final battle in Mania, but it would've been pretty cool to see them return and assist Eggman again. Hell, what about bringing back Classic Eggman? Yes, it'd be a rehash of Generations, but still, it would be interesting to see what role he'd try and play in contrast to the modern Eggman. I made that far wordier than I should've, but that's just a few ways that I would've made improvements on Sonic Forces. Again, it's kinda sad that the fans of the franchise are actually doing a better job at handling it than the actual professionals who have been working on the franchise for years.

[@scsonicACB]

Sonic 06 had actual levels and bosses. Dont just blindly diss that game. It had major issues yes but damn it had very creative approaches to gameplay.

[@numbxnobody2980]

My favorite moments in this game were classic sonic and tails... that end with classic going made shed 1 tear for real

[@angelthehalfbreed4851]

Theory: the phantom Ruby always had a mind of it's own, and when Eggman decided to use the death egg robot on phase 3 the phantom Ruby goes rogue and becomes the third phase of the final boss.

[@angelthehalfbreed4851]

@@DerpaTure9503 to be fair this was a theory created by me

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Makes sense considering how it changed Metal Sonic and turned Eggman insane in Mania

[@justice8718]

So is Infinite’s the Ruby’s edgy husbando?

[@kevinbranagan864]

All of the bosses are either on a 2D plane or running in a straight line. Even 06 had some sort of variety to how you fight. I always tried to keep it neutral when it comes to the subject of newer Sonic games being trash or not, but the fact that this game supposedly took 3-4 years to make, only to garner a half-assed Generations, is inexcusable. Maybe next time don’t hire a bunch of people who have little experience in level design, to work on your flagship title to a franchise with an already dirty face. If you even have enough revenue for a next time.

[@rungratree1]

Kevin Branagan this game will succeed

[@jrmcguire405]

Kevin Branagan Well in sonic 06 the bosses are really how could i say um "basic"

[@takikat]

rungratree1 that's one funny joke you got there.

[@darkfiend76]

Chelline R. He didn't even bring up Odyssey. You must be really eager to bash on the Mario game that's being praised by so many people. Either way your statement still doesn't disprove his point.

[@darkfiend76]

SonicGreninja 2 Of the 3 level designers never worked on a Sonic game. And the third only worked on Lost World.

[@danieltapia1460]

8:25 Now THAT'S a team photo.

[@garsrandom4358]

if this guy had lines during the battle: at the final explosion eggman would have said "I... CAN'T... BELEIVE... THIS!!!"

[@fahadkhan5721]

I don't know what to feel about the boss. But the music, my god...

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

........people said this was gonna be better than Mario Odyssey? Guys, just play Sonic Mania, that game is a fucking awesome .

[@espurrseyes42]

Nah. If I wanted to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles in 2017, I'd just play the real S3&K, not some fangame gone canon.

[@bucket9486]

>Mania >fangame I thought this shitty meme died months ago.

[@ed6964]

for some reason, some Sonic fans are really bitter about Mania being a critical success. You'd think they'd be happier

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Denzel Rozier oh god not another one of you dumb fucks. I hope you're fucking meming and just joking, I really do.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Ed wow, they must be a real special fucking stupid to really not want that.

[@eb-the-gamer6287]

Its the Nega Wisp boss fight again at the end? After Colors and Lost World did the same kind of final boss? At least the music's good.

[@cannabishornliu6119]

You can hear music also on youtube... The music can't make up for everything!

[@phrobss7149]

I like how the enviroment in the main menu is peaceful when you beat the game

phrobss V4 One of greatest parts from in-game

[@KingDice]

Oh my goodness the 3rd phase is a reference to the sonic colours wii final boss

[@jadendafinger]

Cringe Boi straight up copy of it. if it was a reference they would have done something new like mania’s Death Egg Robo being fought differently than in sonic 2

[@cannabishornliu6119]

@@jadendafinger Seriously if Sonic Team will reuse the attack patterns and weak points of the Nega Wisp Armor for another final boss ever again I will loose my shit! It was already stupid that they copied it almost completely for the final boss of Sonic Lost Lord! -_-

[@Bishop6841]

The way they brought things back like classic enemies characters and the phantom ruby is just so cool

[@encryptedaviation1452]

Dude this boss fight still gave me much adrenaline and visually is sick, and good even if it’s easy as hell and a remake of the other fights except it’s slightly harder.

[@allesandroleon7919]

Guys, dont be dissapointed for thinking Infinite not being the final boss, He technically IS, BOTH R FINAL BOSSES with Infinite being the robot power source and Eggman as the robomech pilot, So,It worked like this: Infinite + Eggman = Death Egg Robot Remember in classic nsmb DS , Bowser become his Dry Version, leaving his troop into his son, and then got ressurected by him and fought alongside together in their final battle, also same when Hyness sacrifices himself and the mages sisters as Void Termina's Fuels in Star Allies Infinite may be pulled into the seemingly real phantom ruby fortress reactor, but hes actually retreated by Eggman for his defeat and sucked into the real phantom ruby death egg robot as its fuel and power source in their final battle altogether as the Death Egg Robot Unity

[@nintenchris5963]

Dr. Eggman became the Death Egg Robot himself! If Sonic defeats the Death Egg Robot, Dr. Eggman will be dead for good!

[@jadendafinger]

i dont think thats what happend

[@cannabishornliu6119]

Where was Eggman in this fight though? Was he inside a cockpit in the lyric-lookalike Death Egg Robot or was he inside with the Phantom Ruby in the Egg Phantom (Phase 3) or did he control the robot from a location far away of the fight?

[@SilitongaProduction]

Unfortunately your assumption is wrong, eggman survived as confirmed in the IDW Comic. Besides, even so, if eggman died, so will the entire franchise

[@StormyDMG]

Death egg robot? More like DEAD egg robot 👉😄👉

[@StormyDMG]

Bro I made this comment 3 years ago and I'm already regretting it

[@realgreenpeafg]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LMFAO OMfggg ROTFL RHQYAGSLQHQVDBRUWHSBXJDVVSXNXD

[@luffyreidosgamers6444]

Death egg from sonic 2: 😐 Death egg from sonic forces: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mutationkorno2400]

Phase 1 and 2 are fine, but phase 3 is just.... I don’t care whether it’s a nega mother wisp copy but they could atleast made sonic, classic and avatar super. Why? Because Phantom Ruby has been known to be the strongest gem in the sonic series, stronger than the master emerald and the chaos emeralds. To think that they aren’t even at their super forms yet they were able to defeat Eggman, logic is destroyed. The final boss music was amazing tho.

[@rodolfodesouzaesilva5601]

Well, Sonic Mania also had Eggman using Phantom Ruby's powers as final boss and Sonic also beats him without emeralds :V

[@mutationkorno2400]

Rodolfo souza that’s true, but being able to defeat them without being *super*. It could have atleast been like that, not to say it’s the worst game ever.

[@rodolfodesouzaesilva5601]

Again: The same thing happened in Mania. Unless there is a secret boss...

[@jxivanx]

If I'm right the phantom ruby blocks the power of chaos emeralds

[@pipipsy]

SUPER SONIC WILL BE IN THE DAY ONE PATCH.

[@The94Venom]

I don't know if you completed the game at 100%, but if you did, is there really no extra boss?

[@thelastrob7877]

The94Venom nope. Just super sonic or whatever

[@blueflare7687]

Nick Greene The DLC is a free update. So that's nice.

[@truearea53]

I think not. For there’s no super sonic fight, so maybe no.

[@DonavinDaGoat]

Im still happy that their still making Sonic unleashed enemys that was a really good game...

[@bloodydragon]

....you dont even go super sonic let alone fight all the rivals they hyped up in their trailer? What in the hell, Sega. Give Sonic to Platinum Games and retire. Can't even live up to the end of the hype train they put a brick wall with.

[@indecisiveponderer643]

Ty Spikes O.H. X-90 to be fair we didn’t fight zavok and metal in the boost gameplay but we did fight shadow and chaos in generations I thought that chaos might be a classic sonic boss and shadow an avatar boss but I guess we will fight shadow or chaos in the shadow dlc as shadow and one of them might be a secret boss you know none of the leakers 100% the game yet and super sonic is confirmed

[@richardkelly3407]

OK but Marvel Finite function vs function is shitty as well

[@bloodydragon]

It's a well known fact in history that MVCI is laughable trash.

[@bloodydragon]

Those fights were 6 years ago. This is a game in 2017 showing off all the villains in a way that there is going to be a war between heroes and villains. So with sega meeting part of that "quota" 6 years ago in Generations and revisiting them in what's assumed to be a more refined modern game with no interaction is kinda halfassed while we keep knocking about classic Eggman bosses over and over again. There has to be future dlc to redeem this game involving these characters. As for Super Sonic he appears to be a day one add-on to the game which sounds like he wasn't intended from the start. If so it marketed like a subtle addition rather than a contribution to the game overall (cutscenes, fights, etc).

[@static8566]

You do know this game was made by the fans right?

[@DanielD165]

I mean Eggman is like, dead, right? They literally pierced through the center where the doctor was sitting, and he didn’t exactly say much of anything at the end. Plus, I dunno, this boss feels almost like a temporary, “conclusion” for Eggman to me. Just something about it feels as though we might not see much of him in the next game. With how much Forces discussed the notion of death, I wouldn’t be TOO surprised if they did, “kill” him. Then again, I could be entirely wrong, and there either could be some secret ending that shows Eggman alive and well, and the TRUE final boss is in fact, Infinite. Or, Eggman could just show back up in the next game like nothing happened. I dunno, I kind of like the idea of him not being so prevalent in a future installment, and Sonic Team giving the doctor a temporary leave; let some other big bad have all the spotlight for once, you know?

[@Blackheartzero]

Daniel D. The good doctor's been through worse...

[@zacharykenniston748]

I think he may have died. He finally lost that spark of good tha he had for so long. His mind finally gave out. He committed genocide and tried to kill all life. If that sun had hit them he’d of died too!!! I think he wanted to die. He was driven mad trying to make his grandfathers utopia. His way was incorrect as his damaged mind which was ruined from his childhood, made him delusional and psychotic. He wanted humans to be happy but In order to do that he has to try to destroy Nature to create that utopia. And sonic had to defend all life. That music in the second phase nearly made me cry for robotnik and that’s something I never though I would do....

[@sonicmastersword8080]

I don’t think he’s dead. Noting the unstable nature of the Phantom Ruby, he might have been sent to the Mania world.

[@fordfocusgr.brallycarfordu1427]

He didnt die

[@mikeh5139]

So sonic just leaves? Sonic doesn’t even want to be in his own game...

[@fredricorosenfield9976]

That was actually quite entertaining. Especially at 4:02...when that squid like abomination busted outta the bigger machines chest.

[@kaganak28]

Are you fucking serious ALL THE HYPE FOR THIS? I have been so hyped I have been playing all the past sonic games for this!!!!??? So disappointed I mean I thought the final boss would be Infinite not some shitty robot all my expectations have been crushed...Edit: Not only that they didn't even add super forms or anything like that in so disappointed honestly Sega

[@rungratree1]

Spooder-Man but cool boss theme tho

[@snook7558]

Super Sonic in day one patch...

[@indecisiveponderer643]

O.H. X-90 to be fair we didn’t fight zavok and metal in the boost gameplay but we did fight shadow and chaos in generations I thought that chaos might be a classic sonic boss and shadow an avatar boss but I guess we will fight shadow or chaos in the shadow dlc as shadow and one of them might be a secret boss you know none of the leakers 100% the game yet and super sonic is confirmed

[@kaganak28]

the young analyst Secret boss? Really huh maybe more complex than I thought. Now that I think yeah I Believe there’s more to it than just a robot sorry I got a little mad lol just pray there is more to it than just this

[@Papa_Waffles]

Spooder-Man I learned not to hype a Sonic game, Sega does this, they hype, release, disappoint, wash, rinse and repeat. Though I was rightfully hype for Mania.

[@shrek2magicbean]

I feel like I'm the only one in the Sonic Community that actually likes this boss battle and the game in fact for how it it is

[@shrek2magicbean]

Hybrid Gaming thank you friend

[@masonhhoffman]

I can't believe I'm the only one noticing that this rendition of the Death Egg Robot looks like Lyric

[@Santagmk0]

Characters: soonic, old soonic, a random car, batwoman, fat person, london town baryonyx

[@moonraven6145]

Soo.. the big "Revenge of Eggman" was.... another Death Egg?.... pretty anticlimactic tbh

[@ed6964]

Odyssey wasn't selling itself on the story like Forces was lmao

[@dangerousdoings8066]

Dirty Dan Because Bowser was always fought in a unique and different way. Bowser, while always kidnapping Princess Peach, always had a new, fun challenge. "If it's not fun, why play it?"

[@consume2870]

I’m sad there was not one of those mass produced egg robot fights , it would have been cool taking one of those behemoths down.

[@dangerousdoings8066]

Lastion there was one before the metal sonic fight, but we know how that went.

[@thatsmyq52]

4:11 Um...did Eggman's robot just have a baby?

[@VolticWind]

You know the best thing about this boss fight? There's no commentary from the peanut gallery.

[@coolfellabackwards]

Brutal way of putting it but I can't disagree tbh

[@PLANDerLinde99]

I just don't understand why he calls it the Death Egg Robot. It has no relation to the Death Egg

[@archdukebigdogkoopa3821]

IKR?

[@krisdreemurr3533]

*Eggman not dead, probably this time he's serious, in fact he wants to kill Sonic at all costs, he lost many years with him and his friends, therefore interacting with them, you will not have given the right and dark atmosphere.*

[@KingDice]

This video confirms the theory about the true ending of sonic mania

[@FriedChickenD]

7:49 Mr. Tails.... I don't feel so good...

[@LORENZOROBLOX_YTSHORTS]

7:36 I cried on this part

[@dsheehy99]

Yeah our next adventure awaits us so there’s no time to lose YEAH! WE’RE SONIC FORCES

[@RedMarcus14]

The best part of the Cutscene is the part where sonic says this plan will end like all your plans do you sitting in a pile of busted robot parts wondering how you failed so badly

[@natebernard2771]

So the hype of fighting shadow chaos was just a bait, man that sucks I was really looking forward to getting this game. Shame though I hope more sonic games come just not developed by colors team seeing at this. Nothing against them personally just that I want something like phase 2 and phase 3 combined. Wonder what's next for now, although I'd want a game based on sonic satam or archie is made In adventure style.

[@pipipsy]

Nate Bernard So, you want to have Sonic Generation's Shadow Boss all over again?

[@natebernard2771]

Mizell Jackson no something like the heroes boss battles where there's alot of room to run and attack even unleashed as well.

[@Platinums]

Nate Bernard Chaos is Shadow-Exclusive Boss

[@natebernard2771]

Redstoniac // SkyUnity bummer but As long as it's free don't want another asura's wrath.

[@Platinums]

Nate Sisay I heard it from someone

[@errorsheep]

The game might be bad, but the OST is too good

[@gilbertotabares8196]

what I wouldn't give for Eggman to win, just once.

[@astraldog3359]

Evil can never win

[@gilbertotabares8196]

@@astraldog3359 he's not evil. He's ambitious.

[@thatsmyq52]

7:47 Now Shadow gets to wave goodbye.

[@d.emorah9740]

-Bowser is the final boss NEARLY EVERYTIME. -Sonic uses the nega wisp armor again. Everyone has pitchforks and torches.

[@Alicia-zp7qe]

i would LOVE this boss had they not called it a death egg robot, or at least had the color scheme and spiked arms

[@dudej4077]

this boss shook me to the very core when I played it. same for the sun level

[@teejaynumber13]

Great, no Super Sonic. And I thought Sega had gotten the hint with Mania. I was considering buying this game too.

[@kennethlatorre5269]

teejaynumber13 Well if you were thinking of just buying it for the super forms, that makes you stupid. There have been plenty of sonic games so far that lack the super forms. Anyways, the day one patch will bring super sonic, bit dont expect an extra boss.

[@mattkugelman4369]

Kenneth Latorre well if they allow it in boss battles then you can just go super sonic during the final boss fight

[@teejaynumber13]

So if the Super Sonic battles were my favorite parts of Sonic games, that makes me stupid for not wanting to buy them if they don't have it? Actually, it's morons like you who defend the games no matter what that allows companies to get away with making them subpar.

[@teejaynumber13]

Yeah, but that's not quite the same. I prefer the story driven Super Sonic fights. And is it really so hard for Sega too add a Super Sonic phase to the final boss?

[@mattkugelman4369]

teejaynumber13 yeah but if they just did a super sonic boss battle without even mentioning the chaos emeralds then that would be a major plot hole

[@jamarcusdavis4023]

Thanks for using the Hover wispon. Always wanted to see it in action.

[@Cavalieria]

And the game design resembles the Soviet Union

[@Cavalieria]

Resembles the Russian revolution

[@Cavalieria]

And even the release day, the 7th November is the day of the revolution

[@cucabeludo9342]

You're a fucking god

[@arturoayala1004]

This death egg robot looks more different than his others ones...

[@dlo397]

I feel bad for Eggman’s final boss battles nowadays. With the exception of Doomsday Zone and the Time Eater, Sonic never has to go Super to defeat the doctor.

[@bluphenyx]

This is years old, but Sonic did need the power of all the Wisps to defeat the Nega Wisp Armor, so you could say he sort of had a super form there...

[@Voltexfinal]

He also needed to go Super in the TRUE final boss of Sonic Colors DS

[@THiNGYBOBinc]

OH EGGMAN YOU GENIUS WHO WOULD HAVE EXPECTED A DEATH EGG ROBOT

[@tejasb1239]

People who played Sonic 2.

[@alberttus2328]

I think you beat Chris-Chan to this game. Congrats...

[@chizthebomb]

The callback to Nega Wisp armor was kinda cool. A tad repetitive after lost world but if it ain't broke, don't fix it, I suppose. What are you guys opinions on the game? I really hope this game turned out okay.

[@ioszeged7274]

I thought it was enjoyable,I'll definately replay it. For what they had to work with, I think they did a good job, I wasn't really disappointed, ( and this is coming off playing through Odyssey a few days before) though there could have been some things added in certain places.But not a terrible game.

[@gohanfan27]

You know this boss ain't strong enough when none of the sonic's need to go super.

[@TheManBehindTheSlaughter6669]

I miss when the final bosses were threats meant to be taken seriously enough to need sonic to go super and maybe more than just super sonic to take down.

[@bjkaye9918]

Yeah I miss that too.

[@sonicdml4175]

I like having some instances where there's an extremely powerful threat that doesn't require Sonic to go Super, it shows that Sonic is insanely strong even in Base form, but like 4 games in a row with basicly no Super form usage seems odd.

[@mike14987]

I like the third part of the Boss Fights theme song.

[@DaquanHarrison]

I love Sonic Forces. It's a really awesome game!

[@DakotaJonesMusic]

So... Did Eggman die? Like, did we just witness a murder? If so, I don't doubt why they locked up sonic in the first place; He's a homicidal threat to society. I mean *Sure*- Eggman was being all Adolf and trying to take over the world- but he didn't technically kill anybody. And then here comes this blue douche with his "Mania"c twin from another dimension and a bunny dude (who obviously was working in a meth lab prior to joining the entourage) as they all use this weird move to turn themselves into this "triple person bullet of friendship" to kill a man. #SonicInJail4Murder ... Hashtag don't take this seriously.

[@bronsonferrigno2453]

Heh, I know you said don't take it seriously, but it's Eggman, soooo... debatable whether or not it's murder.

[@videajames2873]

Eggman is still alive. He reappeared in the idw comics

[@its-amemegatron.9521]

Come to think of it not really much happened whe he took over. He remodeled Metropolis to a beautiful city that appears to have people living in it and the city he destroyed was already on fire in Episode Shadow.

[@AstraySouls]

Beating this game and mania was fun but this 1st and 2nd phase of this boss looks like lyric ( I must have forgotten his name )