Black doom in the snapcube dub might be thhe devil but he is forgetting that mephiles i the actual devil in sonic lore
@EclipseHedgehogАй бұрын
@@justice8718 solaris: hold up *eyes time eater* this realm aint big enough for the two of us black doom: nows my chance to run!
@nealenthenerd399Ай бұрын
I find it neat that he knows he doesn’t exist in the main timeline any more and is working to come back.
@delinquentlord581Ай бұрын
I know right, I'm glad that he was aware of it too. It made him sound so desperate and angry that he was possibly planning this while thinking about Iblis
@Omega-jg4oqАй бұрын
He has the power to travel through time, I'm sure he will find a way to enter the main timeline
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ffАй бұрын
@@Omega-jg4oqHe can't travel back in time if he never existed in said timeline. Like to time itself he NEVER existed.
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ffАй бұрын
Yep, and beating Shadow was the only way he could get back in timeline which is why he tried to sneak attack Shadow like he did Sonic.
@Omega-jg4oqАй бұрын
@@JaxsonEvans-pw2ff well, Generations can bring the whole timeline thing together and make it possible
@WriterKing92Ай бұрын
To Mephiles, this rematch with Shadow was his best chance of returning to the timeline. To Shadow, this was just another bump on the road.
@its_commenttime3590Ай бұрын
4mins at that made quick work of him probably even faster if it wasnt for the game controls
@morenove5882Ай бұрын
This is definitely has the same synergy as bison Tuesday
@GreenMask-XRGM-27Ай бұрын
True, actually. Since Solaris was erased from existence before Iblis and Mephiles were born, it's actually no suprise that Shadow would have no memories of sealing Mephilis away or his battle with him at all.
@4whealАй бұрын
@@GreenMask-XRGM-27 Yup im pretty sure the only people who might remember Solaris and the events of 06 are Sonic and Elise as they were there when Solaris was erased.
@tippershipАй бұрын
@@GreenMask-XRGM-27 At the start of this fight Shadow doesn't remember, but at the very end- he straight up tells him ""There is No Future for you, EVER"" - This implies Shadow does end up remembering at the very end of the fight- and knows how important it is to seal him away again. Ian is playing with this, but Shadow was in his SUper Form when Sonic reset the timeline so it's not impossible he'd have him buried away in his memories- and all it'd take is a direct interaction/fight with Meph
@yetravellingsonc8372Ай бұрын
I love how EVERYTHING about this fight feels like it wasn't meant to be seen. The boss gate is hidden underground, in an area with the most foreboding music in the game, and the gate itself needs more keys to access than the other gates. That "Self restoring" force Gerald mentions in his dialogue was working on overdrive to make sure that Mephiles didn't worm his way back into existence and, even if only for a fleeting moment, he still broke out.
@FujiMezuАй бұрын
That’s terrifying. He is the most dangerous villain in the Sonic franchise after all.
@beegyoshi2068Ай бұрын
@FujiMezu right as he was the only one who's killed sonic
@gamingawesomeness22225 күн бұрын
I can tell who is behind the gate from the minute I heard the music…. And I got the biggest cheek to cheek smile. You know, you have a great villain when you’re legitimately happy to s smack them I mean see them again
@louiswindsor733423 күн бұрын
Its like white space is trying it's danmdest to make sure mephilis doesn't get out because if he did just for a second the world would have been doomed
@Yoshirocks9219 күн бұрын
@@FujiMezu Even more so than the fact that he’s the only Sonic villain who’s managed to kill Sonic himself like I don’t think Eggman would go that far though he did try to banish Sonic into space in Sonic Forces but even that is child’s play compared to Mephiles outright killing Sonic on the spot with no hesitation at all.
@mellowhi634Ай бұрын
I like how the SECOND he pops out of the darkness, he immediately goes for the insta-kill. Mephiles wants Shadow gone!
@itsnimbusАй бұрын
Mans had a chance to exist again and kill the bane of his former existence at the same time he wasn't passing this offer up for *anythingg* 😂
@elpopman2055Ай бұрын
@@itsnimbusHe was about to kill shadow the same way he killed sonic... Good thing shadow is Cautious
@caav56Ай бұрын
@@elpopman2055 And Meph forgot to flashbang Shadow, the way he did with Sonic
@electromagneticpsychopath497329 күн бұрын
@caav56 what was he gonna flash bang him with?
@Prod_Meaty28 күн бұрын
And shadow gave dude straight HANDS after
@KJR_WhateverАй бұрын
I really love how they handled Mephiles here. He is clearly the only boss character in Generations overall that is completely aware that he only exists in the void, and that his sudden chance to return only happened cause of Black Doom. And he’s doing his damnest to make sure he defeats Shadow to not waste what could be his only opportunity. You can hear it in his voice, especially near the end, when he is full of desperation and fear. A far cry from his manipulative, fearless former self. Kinda makes you feel bad for him, though he clearly had it coming. Props to the team for making Mephiles’ surprising return truly a spectacle.
@Aisha_draws_stuffАй бұрын
I know Mephiles is evil and all but that ending made me feel bad for him. He is currently either trying to escape the void or having a mental breakdown as we speak
@yrooxrksvi7142Ай бұрын
Too bad this new VA is weak as hell. None of Dan Green's deep and gruff bass.
@93SuperSonicАй бұрын
@@yrooxrksvi7142 I think this voice conveys hiw unhinged and desperate he's become, trapped in limbo outside of the timeline.
@Probably_JENOVAАй бұрын
@@KJR_Whatever I’ve also noticed that Shadow treats Mephiles as this old inner demon that he has overcome a long time ago and has forgotten about at this point.
@yrooxrksvi7142Ай бұрын
@@93SuperSonic He's too weak and unthreatening. It's fine that he should be desperate about being trapped in a limbo, but this voice actor just doesn't hold a candle to Dan Green. No deep gruff bass, no boastful evil laughter. Even his threats feel so idle.
@ChromiumDome411Ай бұрын
I like how Mephiles is semi-pissed that Shadow forgot about him AGAIN.
@renegadedjinn532527 күн бұрын
Hehehe yeah. I thought Sega committed a continuity error in that but then I remembered that the plot of 06 ended with it basically retconning itself from ever happening. So yeah to Shadow this is just a threat to eliminate.
@rickyronny401926 күн бұрын
@@renegadedjinn5325yup 😂
@modernsilver176723 күн бұрын
The funny thing is that the first time Shadow "forgot" about Mephiles back in 06, he didn't actually forget. Mephiles just met Shadow out of sequence. 😂
@renegadedjinn532523 күн бұрын
@@modernsilver1767 too true lol
@tyrushusky2474Ай бұрын
Mephiles has none of that fake charm he used in Sonic 06 it's just pure anger and fear and hatred towards Shadow he's scared of Shadow beating him because that means he won't exist he's desperately fighting harder than he's ever did in 06
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ffАй бұрын
I mean he's fighting for his own existence at this point.😂
@anthonysmith3415Ай бұрын
that's the power of Dan Green
@mariae3717Ай бұрын
Y solo aguanto 4 min 😔 Bueno, lo intento jaja
@yrooxrksvi7142Ай бұрын
@@tyrushusky2474 It doesn't help that his new voice sounds so weak and pathetic.
@captain23playsАй бұрын
If u are saying mean things to Mephiles that’s bad he’s one of my most favourite sonic characters if ur not being mean to him it’s fine
@DW9427Ай бұрын
I love how Mephiles slowly realises that Shadow didn't just forget about him, but that he doesn't exist anymore. He's not fighting for revenge. He's not fighting to end the world. He's fighting so he can live and keep going.
@tippershipАй бұрын
At the start of this fight Shadow doesn't remember, but at the very end- he straight up tells him ""There is No Future for you, EVER"" - This sorta directly indicates Shadow does end up remembering at the very end of the fight- and knows how important it is to seal him away again. Ian is playing with this, but Shadow was in his SUper Form when Sonic reset the timeline so it's not impossible he'd have him buried away in his memories- and all it'd take is a direct interaction/fight with Meph
@EthanBradburyVlogsАй бұрын
Nah he just doesnt remember at all. U can talk to gerald after and while u cant actually see what shadow says geralds reply about him fighting someone he didnt know made it clear.
@DW9427Ай бұрын
@@EthanBradburyVlogs yeah im aware.
@alvarox951Ай бұрын
@@tippershipbut the last part it could also be justa comeback to all the "kill you and exist again, return to the timeline", he doesn't neccesarly remembers
@mitchelljohnson119827 күн бұрын
@@tippership I'd say it's not that Shadow remembers him at the end (his conversation with Gerald establishes that Shadow doesn't remember who Mephiles is), but rather that he simply quickly picked up on that this thing not only knows him somehow, but that it is dangerous and is clearly something that should never be let out of its little time bubble. Ever.
@filipvadas7602Ай бұрын
This boss fight effectively confirmed that Mephiles IS "alive". He's simply stuck in the void, unable to leave and interact with the timeline; fully aware of his predicament. Which asks a VERY interesting question: If Robotnik(Classic) and Eggman(Modern) managed to find their way out of the void, what's stopping Mephiles? Or is he alredy out and we just don't know it yet?
@delinquentlord581Ай бұрын
I think it's possibly both
@jalocool2807Ай бұрын
Nope, he just gone
@twistedturnip8487Ай бұрын
@@jalocool2807 Damn aren't you a ton of fun
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ffАй бұрын
I think it's because the Egg man's are still known in the timeline which means they will eventually be brought back in while Mephiles was completely erased from the timeline which stops him from getting back in.
@filipvadas7602Ай бұрын
@@JaxsonEvans-pw2fftrue, but Shadow, whether he likes it or not now, remembers him. He seemingly doesn't remember their history at first, but at the end that comment felt *personal* Like a part of Shadow remembered who this monster was and knew how important it was to deny him his resurrection. But, again, Shadow remembers him now. Meaning Mephiles has a foothold to come back.
@TheAwesomeHyperonАй бұрын
The idea that Mephiles still somehow exists despite being erased from history is a terrifying thought.
@luthergames6930Ай бұрын
This could be Sega's way of creating the Multiverse in Sonic so now they have an excuse if they wanna bring Mephiles back outside of Shadow Generations
@crosheljarron9982Ай бұрын
@@luthergames6930 Implications had been made before for the existence of alternative timelines, also now with Tailstube confirming that there are "infinite possibilities in space." if there are infinite sonic's. then there are infinite mephiles.
@Mephiles_as_TeriosАй бұрын
@@luthergames6930well he's in mobile games
@merimkastrat5846Ай бұрын
Becoming a non canon character who is trying to be canon.
@Mephiles_as_TeriosАй бұрын
@@merimkastrat5846 he's canon and non canon at the same time
@nealenthenerd399Ай бұрын
2:40 Oh my god he brought the Tilted Towers as an attack.
@D4rkstCrownoireАй бұрын
SOMEBODY FINALLY NOTICE THIS LMAO. PROPS TO SONIC TEAM
@stilldeakyАй бұрын
lol
@fnafmasterofАй бұрын
oh my god i hate you for making me notice that
@AxxidousАй бұрын
@@D4rkstCrownoire I noticed too and was like "....There's no way this is a reference to fan material..."
@WindyREDPandaАй бұрын
@Axxidous Snapcube sucks tho so this is more of a Coincidence than a reference.
@PreteristboyАй бұрын
"It's time to raise the curtain on this macabre play!" That's a neat little callback to "It's time for the final curtain call!"
@JavieraAndreaAliagaOlguínАй бұрын
Mephiles: You ruin everything to me Shadow! Shadow: ... I don´t even know who you are. Memphis Tennessee: D:
@Akira-cd2qsАй бұрын
As a gamer I don't get respect, but that's okay
@KnapperoniАй бұрын
"They don't treat you like a friend, they treat you like an item..."
@GreenMask-XRGM-27Ай бұрын
I mean, erasing Solaris from the timeline has also erased the memories of all who knew about Ibliss and Mephiles because Solaris was only a small flame before those two were made at the time. I don't blame Shadow for not knowing who Mephiles is at this time.
@JamesRicoll-r5zАй бұрын
Memphies”: You will.
@DrChaotix21Ай бұрын
@@Akira-cd2qs”I’m not a gamer. Maybe they’ll respect me?”
@sidestream7876Ай бұрын
oh yeah i forgot 06 canonically retconed itself out of existence.
@nealenthenerd399Ай бұрын
@konektykaMephiles says other wise to the other wise. He literally says he is going to try and defeat Shadow to try and Restore himself into the timeline in this video. Meaning he canonically knows he has no future
@etherealhatredАй бұрын
@konektykathis game never said otherwise, White Space is an area outside time and space, that's why places that should not exist like Crisis City, is not that hard to understand
@josearielortiz2055Ай бұрын
But does that mean that Princess Elise wouldn’t exist either? I know many people hate her for kissing Sonic, but she had very great chemistry with him
@Probably_JENOVAАй бұрын
@@josearielortiz2055 No, Elise still exists, she just doesn’t know about Sonic and his friends anymore after the reset. At the end of Sonic ‘06, she continues with her duty as the princess of Soleanna without knowledge of Sonic, Solaris’ existence, or any of the events that occurred in ‘06’s story.
@zacharyseiders5793Ай бұрын
@konektyka White space, all time ways, even severed ones, exist in there. So a canon retcon.
@RTheStoryteller7Ай бұрын
He sounded really desperate in this game, he have been sealed and forgotten for a decade at this point like damn, he really want to exists somewhere in the timeline
@darkiusmc97922 күн бұрын
Closer to two decades. It's been 18 years.
@D4rkstCrownoireАй бұрын
People will hate me for this, but I really adore this new voice for Mephiles. He sounds desperate, that's all to it, he doesn't have those evil voice from 06 where he is like the mastermind of the story. Here, he is literally trying his ALL to not be erased again, he is literally insane at this point, it brings the emotion to this fight, which make this battle even more amazing, or a stretch, a masterpiece if I may say .
@dark_nightwing_xl2797Ай бұрын
He sounds young and cool
@dark_nightwing_xl2797Ай бұрын
Well said
@thekeybladeninjaturtle7380Ай бұрын
According to the Sonic wiki, Robbie Daymond might be Mephiles' new VA, but don't quote me on that
@GardevoirBoyАй бұрын
@@thekeybladeninjaturtle7380Either way, that actor did a great job at impersonating Jason Griffith.
@thekeybladeninjaturtle7380Ай бұрын
@@GardevoirBoy Actually, Mephiles was voiced by Dan Green, but you're still right about him doing a great impression
@andor.7545Ай бұрын
i can understand why a lot of people wanted dan green back, and it’s completely fair to prefer the og, but i think robbie did a great job as mephiles. he never disappoints
@zinidinerahman4168Ай бұрын
I wanted to puke when I first heard this voice but after watching it again I can definitely tolerate it now.
@gabekuzunohathexvii4872Ай бұрын
fuck no this preformance is dogshit
@etherealhatredАй бұрын
Is not that he did a bad job, let's not deflect and lie to ourselves, is that he just simply doesn't fit Mephiles, I could see him as a Scourge tho but Mephiles? Nah, you're coping if you think he gives the same imposing presence as Dan Green did
@battlinjoe2592Ай бұрын
I knew he wouldn’t, Dan’s busy being a dad and all around family man, but kudos to Robbie for carrying himself well.
@Need_RnRАй бұрын
Should've *used* Super Buu's voice to capture Dan Green's portrayal: _Better._
@Kenny-hd4efАй бұрын
"no... I want... To exist..." That's actually tragic Guess that time in the void really fucked him up cause he doesn't even want the end of the World,he just wants to be relevant again
@solaris3251Ай бұрын
Kind of ironic considering the fact that his main goal as Solaris was to erase all existing timelines.
@Nafi_yft2202Ай бұрын
He wants to be canon .. not in sega basement
@theguyfromtsukihime3898Ай бұрын
Dude wanted his relevance to not be tied to fandub memes
@Eis_ColdАй бұрын
@@solaris3251been a few years but was that the main goal? I thought it was just a side effect of him combining with Iblis?
@solaris3251Ай бұрын
@@Eis_Cold Solaris wanted revenge on mankid after they try to use his power, the whole point of 06 was that Mephiles wanted to become Solaris in order to consume everything and turn the world into nothing.
@dilldall2080Ай бұрын
I find it neat that Mephiles is BARELY hanging on to his existence. You can hear it in his voice, especially near the end, when he is full of desperation and fear. A broken shell from his heartless, manipulative, opportunistic former self.
@autistinquisitor9441Ай бұрын
That beam that he shot out was the same one he "killed" sonic with!
@FJDOАй бұрын
but shadow dodged it. "UNLIKE SONIC"
@willbrgamer5137Ай бұрын
@@FJDO Shadow was ready, Sonic wasn't.
@amaniwhite9622Ай бұрын
That's Because unlike Sonic, He dodged it just in time.
@superiorgamedudeАй бұрын
Thank god someone else caught that.
@AlmoatasemAlmobarekАй бұрын
@@FJDOwhich provides that Shadow is superior
@Nel_AnnetteАй бұрын
Black Doom was the main focus but I really wanted poor Mephiles to escape his non-existence and sneak back into the main timeline... somehow. Loved how they wrote him *knowing* he's been removed from time.
@HunterStiles651Ай бұрын
If you're going to have Shadow be playable in a game meant to honor the franchise's entire history, you need Black Doom. Shadow the Hedgehog was meant to be the start of a whole spin-off franchise, and Black Doom was created to be Shadow's Eggman.
@EdgeKing-ix2ciАй бұрын
Mephiles should be the main antagonist to Shadow, not Black Doom 😭
@thefollower2933Ай бұрын
I absolutely love that this fight single handedly confirmed how the places from 06 are able to exist despite what happened at the end of that game, the Time Eater managed to bring those places back because it took things from every time, everything that ever happened was affected by it, including the "defunct" timeline that got erased from existence because it still happened at some point in time at the end of the day, Mephiles here knows he doesn't exist anymore, and you can tell that by his dialogue "I will restore myself back into the timeline", beating Shadow would alter the events of history and may lead to him somehow returning, him getting defeated locks him into the fate he was given at the end of 06, and just by the desperation and in his voice you can tell how hard he genuinely wants to win, but in the end, once he's defeated and the Time Anomaly is solved, Mephiles ceases to exist once again alongside Crisis City and everything that relates to Solaris. Maybe this was all obvious but I remember there being a lot of confusion surrounding the presence of Crisis City in the original Generations causing some to question whether the Time Eater somehow recanonised the Events of 06 or how it was even able to bring them back at all when they were supposedly erased, and im glad Shadow Gens is clearing that up.
@crosheljarron9982Ай бұрын
It doesn't seem like that. I mean, yes, 06 is canon but tails mentioned that there are infinite possibilities, so 06 can still exist in other timelines. but this specific mephiles seems to be from the main line that was deleted.
@EriorguezАй бұрын
Why would the Dusty Desert inner sanctum cease to be tho?
@thefollower2933Ай бұрын
@@Eriorguez well, it wouldn't cease to exist, neither would Kingdom Valley (though it'd probably look different since Solaris never existed so it wouldn't be engrained literally everywhere) The version of those places from the 06 timeline wouldn't exist anymore, alongside everything that was tied to Solaris, not the actual locations themselves. That's what I meant when I said the places from 06 would cease to be.
@EriorguezАй бұрын
@@thefollower2933 I understood 06's ending less as "Solaris never existed" and more "the Solaris project never was a thing". The flame went out before it could be experimented on.
@mrlobsterguy492829 күн бұрын
Gotta love the fact that Mephiles has plenty of signs that he truly is forgotten by not just the characters, but by time itself - Not only is he aware of it by his dialogue, but his boss stage location is underground and out of sight from everything compared to Biolizard and Metal Overlord having their boss stages effectively be on top of the castles, high up where anyone could see them. Compared to those two, who are effectively still remembered and existing in the past, Mephiles is straight-up buried deeper in the White Void, doomed to remain there as a fragment of a forgotten time.
@ShinyDitto64Ай бұрын
Memphis Tennessee in a mainline Sonic game? IN 2024?!
@ZantTheManАй бұрын
It only took 18 years
@Need_RnRАй бұрын
Annnnd, _he's_ gone... Should've had him voiced by the guy who does Super Buu's voice, *in the anime*
@alceratops6853Ай бұрын
And he used the tilted towers 😂
@SugarPunk42028 күн бұрын
I absolutely love how Mephiles was a character who wanted to eradicate all life but now that he knows what it feels like to not exist he's genuinely horrified of that concept, i like how he starts to genuinely panic when he realizes shadow is winning cause he knows that might be his last chance of freedom
@SonicjohnathonАй бұрын
“Is that Sonic how the fuck did he get here, what the fuck is doing in my shield?”
@nathanbrownlee9276Ай бұрын
I’d love it if Mephiles becomes a recurring villain where he is constantly trying to restore himself to the timeline but he just keeps getting his ass handed to him and thrown back into the void.
@NoNamex1412Ай бұрын
Bro becomes the new infinite 💀💀
@KCGamingBuddiesАй бұрын
honestly a stand alone shadow game with him as the main villain would be amazing
@yetravellingsonc8372Ай бұрын
So something like Galacta Knight in the Kirby franchise (who was a near constantly recurring superboss that got erased from canon and reintroduced to it with every single appearance up until he bit the dust proper)
@mittycommitspizzatime92Ай бұрын
@@yetravellingsonc8372 Galacta Knight is in a weird spot because he does exist, but canonically he’s still sealed away in a crystal
@EdgeKing-ix2ciАй бұрын
New standalone shadow game with Mephiles as the main villain would be so perfect
@Mochitachi70Ай бұрын
2:37 So these are the fabled Tilted Towers...
@lucasperez253Ай бұрын
1:58 “What? Did you forget about me AGAIN?” DAYUM!!!
@SonicXD001Ай бұрын
Shadow: I don't even know who you are
@andrewalker6050Ай бұрын
@@SonicXD001 Mephiles: You will.
@ZillennialjayjayАй бұрын
Makes sense, as 06 was just the 2nd or altered timeline to the original that happened off-screen.
@OmNeil10Ай бұрын
I laughed
@Garagelab164Ай бұрын
Honestly after rehearing that. I honestly think that might be one of the smartest bits of dialogue in the boss fights. Because Shadow forgot who Mephiles was before when the scepter of darkness broke. Then now with being erased but clearly holding the memories of what happened in 06.
@dhbugaltАй бұрын
Shadow just straight up and gave the "I don't even know who you are..." treatment to Mephiles LMAO! In all seriousness, I'm glad their looking back into Sonic '06 more, hopefully they'll do the same for Forces so we can get Infinite back again...🙏😖
@ZantTheManАй бұрын
Forces is still relatively new I’ve waited 18 years for this.
@dhbugaltАй бұрын
@@ZantTheMan Oh for sure I feel the same way. I just feel liked we got robbed on something that could have been better than what we got with the final product for Forces.
@MILDMONSTER1234Ай бұрын
People want the mephiles wannabe back now huh?
@justice8718Ай бұрын
@@MILDMONSTER1234 He’s basically the newest Robotnik that originally didn’t know that Eggman created him and the Jackals. The final judgement level and the Shadow DLC was meant to highlight this key detail of his character.
@yrooxrksvi7142Ай бұрын
Mephiles is a threat and interesting. Infinite is a pathetic crybaby and Forces is just pitiful.
@fabiomgm1293Ай бұрын
"I want to exist!" Poor dude.
@Nov-5062Ай бұрын
He does exist. In my heart.
@superiorgamedudeАй бұрын
Poor dude? He kinda had it coming.
@Sonic10ForcesАй бұрын
@@superiorgamedude even though he is basically the most evil and dangerous character in the Sonic series. You can't blame that the tone of his voice makes you feel some sympathy
@Aisha_draws_stuffАй бұрын
@@superiorgamedude my dude is at the edge of having a mental breakdown how can I not feel bad?
@superiorgamedudeАй бұрын
@@Aisha_draws_stuff Because he's a murderer.
@EchoingVisionАй бұрын
"Did you forget about me, AGAIN?" Yeah bro you don't exist anymore, nah dip.
@imanobody7911Ай бұрын
"There is no future for you, ever" Damn that line is a punch in the nuts for us Mephiles fans lol
@FujiMezuАй бұрын
Maybe even hinting That Shadow now remembers
@EdgeKing-ix2ciАй бұрын
It's like a punch in the gut to me 🥲
@xnortheast110625 күн бұрын
@@FujiMezuhe doesn't
@megabeynic265914 күн бұрын
Just wait till we get a 06 Remake (pls SEGA I refuse to leave this life without it)
@TreacherousFishАй бұрын
3:46 Mephiles blinking
@generaltage4936Ай бұрын
Good eye.
@caav56Ай бұрын
Manifesting brand new eyelids from sheer confusion
@madara1442Ай бұрын
And he blinked just before around 2:30 You either need to set the video’s playback speed low or time your pausing to see that his eyes were closed & opening them.
@fidgetthecrazyАй бұрын
MEPHILES HAS EYELIDS!?
@CaptainCFalconАй бұрын
That's cursed as fuck.
@P.A._LilyАй бұрын
His name is Memphis Tennessee, and he's VERY tilted this time around.
@cep85Ай бұрын
If we ever have such a thing as a Silver Generations, Mephiles could be reintroduced again. This time expanding this idea that he is stuck in the void. It could somehow repair all the inconsistencies and flaws of '06. And, why not, connect it with Blaze from Sonic Rush.
@superiorgamedudeАй бұрын
I mean, Iblis would be the obvious choice.
@shiori00Ай бұрын
I hope we don't get a Silver Gens but rather his own game
@Multi-fandomEldingArumАй бұрын
I’m afraid a Silver Generations isn’t really possible because Silver doesn’t have a lot of past to re-explore because he hasn’t been used all that much. The only levels I could see them doing are maybe all the levels from 06, a level from Sonic Rivals, one from Colors (he was in the DS version, I’m pretty sure), that Jungle area from Forces where he fought Infinite, and maybe one of the Starfall Islands from Frontiers (because, hey, they did it for Shadow, I don’t see a problem with doing it for Silver). But yeah, it’s not really likely.
@lore982829 күн бұрын
@Multi-fandomEldingArum also Silver is not that popular either, although a standalone game would be cool
@xnortheast110625 күн бұрын
Not blaze
@zachariasthesamurai9878Ай бұрын
0:59 notice how he uses the same strategy that he used to kill sonic. Distraction and sneak attack from behind
@leohernandez875113 күн бұрын
Once a dirty fighter, *ALWAYS* a dirty fighter. At least here, Shadow was much more on guard than Sonic was at the time.
@ezrawyvern67954 күн бұрын
@leohernandez8751 Also helps that, unlike with Sonic, Mephiles tried to perform his distract and then attack with those gremlins of his instead of a blinding light.
@hygrysicaАй бұрын
3:51 sobs and cries as a mephiles fan Me too mephiles me too
@Nov-5062Ай бұрын
They could've done so much with him. He is such a great villain.
@Aisha_draws_stuffАй бұрын
You and me are on the same page
@raeloganАй бұрын
3:46 ABOUT FREAKING TIME HE FINALLY BLINKED, IT'S BEEN 18 YEARS
@tiredinsomniac405721 күн бұрын
No wonder his eyes are so red.
@Hyperdragon1701Ай бұрын
Interesting to see how Mephiles is absolutely willing to throw hands with Shadow every time they meet but Sonic he does not dare face in a fair fight.
@delinquentlord581Ай бұрын
Because he knows Sonic is the main protagonist and is way stronger than him lol
@milesstorzillo7650Ай бұрын
I mean, you can clearly see that here in the cutscene he tries to kill Shadow the same way he killed Sonic (minus the blinding part), but Shadow dodged it.
@Nov-5062Ай бұрын
I don't think it's about daring, he just doesn't really seem to care about Sonic in the slightest. He never talked to Sonic or even said his name throughout the whole of 06.
@ryannathaniel9296Ай бұрын
@@Nov-5062Tbf, Mephiles only ever mentioned himself, Shadow, and Iblis by name
@jacobfoxall5633Ай бұрын
Mephilis knows about Sonic. He tricked Silver to go back in time to kill him in the beginning.
@FukuritaMarikoАй бұрын
Intresting how desperate Mephiles just want to exist in a timelines like his original goals doesn't matter anymore screw his other half he just want to exist
@yakkyrwhackrАй бұрын
This bossfight absolutely floored me when I first played it. From the moment I saw Mephiles in the trailer, I was excited for his bossfight, and Sega did not disappoint. This fight does so much with so little. Mephiles isn't even the final boss, but he still has the presentation of much. His desperate pleas to exist are so powerful. It's so intriguing seeing a Mephiles that's a far cry from what he once was. He's no longer calculated. He's screaming and clawing and throwing everything possible at Shadow in a desperate attempt to get just one more shot at existence. It's amazing
@FireFoxGaming_Ай бұрын
This also confirms that the Time eater and mephiles are not the same being-
@tippershipАй бұрын
Which means Ian may not have gotten permission from SEGA to do that storyline like he wanted
@Faz10do987Ай бұрын
But it does confirm that he had some sort of effect to know that he didn’t exist because of the reverse effect of 06 And he has some influence on it
@knightofarkronia865229 күн бұрын
Perhaps the universe had the Time Eater be a replacement for Solaris?
@ProfessorHeavy1Ай бұрын
WELCOME BACK TO TILTED TOWERS
@iangreer4585Ай бұрын
YES!!!
@jbat064Ай бұрын
Mephilies is voiced by Robbie daymond, who voiced akechi in persona 5.
@legomaster2538Ай бұрын
And Hubert in Fire Emblem. While I was upset they didn’t bring back Dan Green. Daymond did a great job with Mephiles.
@Ratscallion_exeАй бұрын
Prompto from ff15 & Happy Chaos from Guilty Gear & Chai from Hi-Fi Rush **Get in the clown car, we are going on a Boysband tour**
@markzilla6895Ай бұрын
Yeah, I can definitely hear Akechi slip in at times.
@The_Ultimate_AgentАй бұрын
Also voiced Megumi in Jujutsu Kaisen. Man, he’s a good voice actor.
@VasculioАй бұрын
Not a fan of this voice... But glad that they gave him personality in this boss fight.
@comicfan1324Ай бұрын
It’s ironic really. In sonic 06 he was fighting to become Solaris: the sun God of time. Now he’s fighting for his life just to exist in anytime and he couldn’t accomplish that. What shadow said is true: he really doesn’t have a future. Ever.
@FujiMezuАй бұрын
He did have it coming.
@richardcosco2994Ай бұрын
This fight reveals the fact that Mephiles is still alive and exists, but he was trapped in this timeline with no chance to escape, until the Time Eater destabilized time and space. In this fight, Shadow does not remember who Mephiles is, but he is aware that it is a completely dangerous creature and he must neutralize it as soon as possible to avoid future problems.
@alceratops6853Ай бұрын
Mephiles: "You took...everything from me." Shadow: "I don't even know who you are."
@ZenTheMessАй бұрын
Everyone’s saying Black Doom caused this but remember, it was EGGMAN who fucked up timespace to begin with. That means eggman not only sped up the near return of the black arms but also damn near caused Mephiles to get set loose back into the timeline.
@LordZanas25 күн бұрын
Tbh it's just not a Dr. Robotnik scheme if it doesn't release a reality destroying eldritch god or two
@silvernick65Ай бұрын
The fact that he's sealed away, not in just the scepter, but the ruins he's in along with it being banished/erased from time is like next level of imprisonment. And he knows he technically doesn't exist anymore and is desperately trying to come back is amazing. You can hear the desperation in his voice too, compared to his calm mastermind demeanor he had in 06 too. So crazy
@toasttitan325322 күн бұрын
He’s imprisoned in the scepter in the ruins in the boss door hidden underground in the void outside of time That’s like 6 different ways this guy is imprisoned
@Jet_Genesis72010 күн бұрын
@@toasttitan3253 He also had 4 keys instead of 3
@ezrawyvern67954 күн бұрын
The timeline itself feels no sympathy for him whatsoever. But, then again, when you try to outright destroy space-time, the will of the timeline is given damn good reasons to see to it that you suffer.
@ShadowThe771Ай бұрын
Mephiles is voiced by Robbie Daymond, the voice of Goro Akechi from Persona 5, Zhao from Like A Dragon, and Jugram from Bleach Thousand Year Blood War.
@redstreak9430Ай бұрын
Also Hubert from Fire Emblem 3 Houses, Prompto from FFXV and Spider-Man various late 2010s projects
@Ratscallion_exeАй бұрын
Happy Chaos from Guilty Gear Chai from Hi-Fi Rush
@sonicranger5418Ай бұрын
Personally, I would prefer Richard Epcar as Mephiles.
@theawesomeguy456Ай бұрын
and SwaySway from Breadwinners
@Nel_AnnetteАй бұрын
@@sonicranger5418 That would have worked well!
@luckluca8982Ай бұрын
I find it funny that most people assume that 06 was made non-canon because it sucked when someone says that those events didn't happen. But no, in the finale of 06, the timeline gets reseted to a world without Solaris. There are a surprising amount of people that actually think that sega made 06 non-canon
@PALINDROMA.Ай бұрын
Casually tried to kill Shadow ON SIGHT! No introduction, no speeches, just tried to stab him in the back 🔥🔥🔥
@julianazzopardi6504Ай бұрын
Mephilis tried to kill shadow the same way he killed sonic but shadow doges it
@Omega-jg4oqАй бұрын
And He still remains as the only villain to ever kill sonic
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ffАй бұрын
I mean Shadow always has his guard up to make sure he doesn't get sneaked.
@GODEYE270115Ай бұрын
Shadow has killer instincts and way more experience
@matthewdennis2911Ай бұрын
To be fair… Mephiles did surprise Sonic with the purple chaos emerald flashing him brightly. Giving him the chance to strike.
@ryannathaniel9296Ай бұрын
@@matthewdennis2911Also, Sonic is too busy thinking about the princess..... ..... 's safety
@the.voidwalker28 күн бұрын
There’s something special about this fight compared to the other bosses in this game. They’re all great, but Mephiles once again steals the spotlight with what little time he has. Given the lore implications and the fact that we don’t fully deplete his health during the fight, it makes me hopeful that Memphis Tennessee will return one day soon
@staraptorflock3661Ай бұрын
I like this new voice he’s seems less composed which is fitting given his many failures
@muanimsАй бұрын
Idk about "many failures" he was pretty successful at becoming solaris,i think him basically not existing is what really drove him mad.
@wulfulk1000Ай бұрын
New sonic fans will do ANYTHING to excuse bad voice acting bruh
@Ironmew05Ай бұрын
Who voices him?
@muanimsАй бұрын
@@Ironmew05 Robbie daymond as I have heard.
@staraptorflock3661Ай бұрын
@@muanims I guess it was just one failure of losing to the hedgehogs
@attackontitanbeautytheking2725Ай бұрын
This just shows how powerful Shadow is and has gotten.
@Makareno94Ай бұрын
Well the power were borrowed from Black Doom..
@lz927527 күн бұрын
And he has a chaos emerald, which Mephiles doesnt have this time around
@astraldog335925 күн бұрын
Mephiles is the weakest form of Solaris and Shadow is stronger now, he had no chance
@theking8347Ай бұрын
"There is no future for you. Ever." That's not Shadow talking to Mephiles. That's Sonic Team talking to the fanbase.
@Aisha_draws_stuffАй бұрын
I kinda feel bad for Mephiles. He is stuck in a time loop and only fails to return to the timeline. He got the fate worse than death.
@yrooxrksvi7142Ай бұрын
He got the Diavolo treatment
@Faz10do987Ай бұрын
That’s what they could’ve done with infinite since the last we saw of the phantom ruby was the classic timeline, and then black doom could’ve revived him unintentionally, but defeating him causes shadow’s memory of him being erased and infinite is put back into mania and the cycle repeats
@LizardManeАй бұрын
He's pure evil
@tippershipАй бұрын
"There is No Future for you, EVER" Shadow upon sealing Mephiles AGAIN after this fight It appears Ian has kept toying with the "Does Shadow remember" question- and at the end of the fight, the answer is YES, based on Shadow's language here. Shadow knows now- it took an entire fight. But it was always a mystery- as he was Super Shadow when Sonic reset the timeline- so there was always a chance Shadow could remember it. Appears Ian took advantage of that, though Shadow did not remember at the start of the fight
@spooky_moronАй бұрын
I don't think he necessarily remembers Mephiles. It's either a subconscious thing or Shadow just recognized that he was too dangerous to be allowed to exist as he stated at the start.
@thecollector42728 күн бұрын
"What is this? A seal of some sort?" My lizard brain immediately said "Wtf you've seen it before!" and only then I remembered that 06 retconned itself 😂
@WanderingNerd21Ай бұрын
Mephiles: *PLEASE, LET ME BE CANON AGAIN!!!* Shadow: No.
@Morales308821 күн бұрын
Black doom: ok, now I will use some of these villains to prepare shadow for our showdown. Maybe I could use this- *what the fuck is that*
@QruisSАй бұрын
Neat to know the timeline wasnt outright erased but sealed away.
@voidofectoАй бұрын
Mephiles is fighting to make 06 canon again. Thank god Shadow beat him.
@dustyddАй бұрын
The original Generations already made it proof that the it happened with Crisis City's existence.
@rjohn00Ай бұрын
How shadow fought mephiles and mephiles using powers his powers once he defeat shadow would return shadow knew he would be a threat if he returns to their world
@somedude3820Ай бұрын
While it might not lead to anything, there's something that should be kept in mind... Shadow doesn't remember Mephiles, and when Mephiles was defeated he went back into the Sceptre of Darkness. But... This is Dusty Desert Mephiles at the earliest, and when Shadow tried to seal him away in the Sceptre again at that point, Mephiles told Shadow that sealing him in the Sceptre wouldn't work anymore. What if he went back in the Sceptre to get Shadow to let his guard down, so that he can make his escape?
@harpalsoaqua1695Ай бұрын
I think he was just weakened enough for the scepter to imprison him, just like a Pokémon and a pokeball.
@ZillennialjayjayАй бұрын
He’s not that powerful due to not existing. He’s a walking paradox.
@Skeleton20133Ай бұрын
@@Zillennialjayjay Doesn't matter. He can't be sealed.
@Andythesonicfan26 күн бұрын
I feel ashamed about feeling bad for someone who wanted to destroy time and space but I actually felt sad for Mephiles when he said “I want to exist!”
@juliane.mfarias9285Ай бұрын
"Welcome Shadow, to the ultimate game of Shadow tag!" I swear to God if Mephiles dosent come back for a Year of Silver....
@purpledragon539819 күн бұрын
Knowing you don't exist yet somewhat there to know you don't exist is so paradoxically insane I'd go insane consciously not existing
@matthewmarburger9110Ай бұрын
At this point he doesn’t even care about taking over the world. He just wants to live and not be erased from existence, he sees this as his chance It’s pretty much a fight between two individuals who want to live In a bloody cage match for survival, which is both sad and hard-core
@BonitoJoe111Ай бұрын
Fans: Aww, I feel bad for Mephiles Me: HE LITTERALLY KILLED SONIC AND NEARLY DESTROYED THE FABRIC OF REALITY AND TIME ITSELF. NO "AWWS" FOR HIM So yeah, maybe it's best he stays sealed in a forgotten void. Because he would've been FAR worse of a problem to deal with than Black Doom had he fully returned to the main timeline. He's gone for good... unless fan outcry says otherwise.
@Faz10do987Ай бұрын
Fan outcry finna say otherwise lmao
@artemismoore41769 күн бұрын
I’m willing to argue about justifying Mephiles’ actions, but more so, Solaris’, while not justifying his murder of Sonic If we have to go back, remember, Solaris was previously a peaceful god, until the people of Soleanna had experimented on him, basically, turning him unstable Mephiles’ ultimate goal was to reunite with his other half, by any means And while yes, he killed Sonic, I can’t blame the crazed god for trying to unleash his blind wrath on everyone, not just people who hurt and exploited him Like, remember Chaos? Chaos was allowed to be pacified and laid to rest, but Solaris and Mephiles, by extension, are suddenly just evil and not a product of their hurt?
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250Ай бұрын
I hope Mephiles returns once again after X Shadow Generations. Something inside me tells me that Sega is preparing a future story about Mephiles returning and being the main villain of the story.And this Boss fight was an indirect warning about that. Sega never wanted to bring Mephiles back before because of the failure that 2006 was, but with X Shadow Generations being a success and everyone loving it,Mainly the participation of Mephiles, which was the biggest hype for the game, I no longer see any reason for Sega not to want to use the Mephiles character. Therefore, I think that now we really can See him again as the main villain just like he was in 2006
@_TzerАй бұрын
Silver generations for the love of god
@jacksoncaswell2.0Ай бұрын
Or (sadly but most likely) they could go the route of “there is no future for you, ever”
@Faz10do987Ай бұрын
@@jacksoncaswell2.0no, if they know what’s good for them, I don’t think we’ll see him soon however, we will most likely see him in the future that’s inevitable
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250Ай бұрын
@@Faz10do987I hope that future is not too far away.
@TheLsp201119 күн бұрын
This boss fight alone opens so many possibilities. Mainly the possibility of the return of Mephiles. This proves that while he no longer exists in the main timeline… he exists outside of it. Looking for a way to return. That is fucking terrifying! To think that even erasing him from the timeline is not enough to actually completely destroy him.
@Termina201810 күн бұрын
I always imagine that since he’s been erased/rejected from the mainline timeline, what if he tries to escape into an alternate timeline (like the movieverse) with all his malevolent memories still intact. 💀
@MarkITEXEАй бұрын
Mephiles: I will get my revenge Shadow and return to existence ONCE AGAIN!!! Shadow: Who are you and how do you know I’m Shadow and what are you talking about? Mephiles: Let’s just say it’s a LONG story that NEVER happened. Let us celebrate the return of the one and the ONLY Mephiles HIMSELF!!!
@PsykonikaarАй бұрын
"LONG story that NEVER happened." That line is actually legit...
@petalangel377213 күн бұрын
I was very happy when they brought back Mephiles. This boss battle was so much better than the original. I felt the original battle was too simple and easy, whereas this battle is faster, more complex, and more challenging.
@iagoluiz8467Ай бұрын
I never thought I would hear my recently favorite Spider-Man voice perform as Mephiles. But, I admit it. He gave a great impression.
@domajackthesheepoid3948Ай бұрын
Mephiles: I won't allow you to defeat me again, I will restore myself to the timeline! Shadow: Have we met...?
@stegomasaurus673728 күн бұрын
Trying to return to existence is a really hypocritical motivation for a guy who wanted to erase all existence.
@markener431629 күн бұрын
I think people need to remember that shadow has a choas emerald in this fight, whereas in Sonic 06 his fight with mephiles he had none whereas Mephiles had 2. If Mephiles where to EVER be back in the timeline, he would literally be the biggest threat in the room, especially if he has a emerald.
@MMR_LM29 күн бұрын
My exact thoughts, it's great that they moved the emphasis of this fight to one where Mephiles knows he's on the back foot and has to take Shadow seriously if he wants a chance to live again
@ZantTheManАй бұрын
4:10 The I of now absorbed your power through your shadow in the past. What may have worked 10 years ago, no longer does! This fight is full of 06 references no way they forgot this.
@etherealhatredАй бұрын
They didn't, he got him weak so he could be sealed, that's how they trapped him at first, he was weak and formless
@Skeleton20133Ай бұрын
@@etherealhatred He was also weak and tired after Shadow defeated him a second time in 06 as well yet he can't be sealed. Mephiles was weak at first 10 years ago due to the fact he was being separated.
@ryannathaniel9296Ай бұрын
@@etherealhatredYeah, as what the comment above me said, Mephiles was weak the first time because he had just been separated from Solaris
@dragonswirl357918 күн бұрын
I loved this nod to him while also acknowledging that he doesn't exist in the real/main timeline anymore, it's such good writing
@starforcenetworkАй бұрын
1:34 "Welcome, Shadow. To the ultimate game of FORTNITE!"
@HDPlayer_909Ай бұрын
0:56 Aaaaaand Shadow was able to do what Sonic wasn't capable of.
@SherlockSMastersАй бұрын
Well Sonic wasn't aware and he had no idea Mephiles was going to ambush him
@HDPlayer_909Ай бұрын
@@SherlockSMasters I know. It's just a meme. :p
@SherlockSMastersАй бұрын
@@HDPlayer_909 ok :3
@HksjJkdkdАй бұрын
Mephiles' story is even more tragic now that he's reappeared-and you can see how desperate he is. His original goal wasn’t just to destroy everything; it was revenge against the humans who experimented on Solaris, who basically was him. But after everyone responsible for his suffering was gone, all that remained were the corrupted parts of Solaris that craved destruction with no real purpose. It’s heartbreaking to see how he’s trapped in this endless cycle, losing any sense of himself in the process. His return to the new game feels like a last-ditch effort to escape that cycle and reclaim some control over his fate. He started out wanting revenge, but now he's just trapped, desperate, and broken. Poor Solaris, endlessly suffering and seeking a way out.
@DustfiredАй бұрын
A fitting treatment for an evil god no?
@HksjJkdkdАй бұрын
@@Dustfired he wasnt evil at first. The Solaris Project coruppted Solaris and made it evil.
@jocelantonettetenoc599628 күн бұрын
@@Dustfired It does. For a guy who wanted to erase multiple timelines, he ended up getting himself erased from them.
@bunnearixАй бұрын
He thought he would exist. But he forgot that he merged into Iblis which it costs to lose his mind in the process. A forgotten entity in a worse 2006 game.
@o.h.x-9062Ай бұрын
Solaris.
@FujiMezuАй бұрын
@konektykaYea Sonic boom is 💩
@grfrjiglstan29 күн бұрын
I love that he resorts to taking on the incomplete form of Solaris near the end. It just shows how much was at stake in this fight alone.
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
"I owe much to you Shadow The Hedgehog" my what a reference..
@sonicfan2403Ай бұрын
I can kind of understand what people are saying about how Rob's performance is meant to symbolize his desperation on getting out of the erased Timeline, I just think he's a bit too high pitched cause Mephiles is still a dark character. I think it would've been a better choice if either Jessie James Grelle or J. Tatum were the recast, because they can still have that bit of darkness while still sound desperate.
@Faz10do987Ай бұрын
Tbf they could’ve gave him a filter, but the voice acting is good just, plus the game he’s from is pretty much 20 years old so I excuse it
@Probably_JENOVAАй бұрын
Interesting. Although a part of me was expecting Mephiles to sound different (it has been like, what, two decades since he’s had an actual appearance, voiced and all?), I’m not sure *how* to feel about Mephiles’ new voice. Could they not get Dan Green back to voice him? Is it Dan Green or is it another voice actor? Did his old voice also get erased from existence and he had to get a new one in-universe? Well, either way, I guess even Mephiles is not safe from the whole “Sonic characters suddenly getting new voices in the English version of the series every decade or more” tradition. (Edit: After reading some of the comments here, I now understand why Mephiles sounds different. Apparently, Dan Green had retired from voice acting in 2011 after the passing of his wife. A very understandable reason and I am sorry for his loss. I hope he’s doing alright these days. Mephiles’ new voice actor here is Robbie Daymond). Voice aside, it’s good to see Mephiles again, even if there is no future for him. Ever. As a fan of him, I’ll still have to come to terms with accepting that fact considering just how dangerous he is as Solaris, his true self. Either way, Solaris means a lot to me considering how much the super-dimensional being that eats dimensions for lunch has been a great source of inspiration for me in terms of creativity, alongside some of the other godly beings in the Sonic series and I’m not ashamed nor embarrassed to express that just because Solaris originated from Sonic ‘06 of all games. Ever since I fell in love with Solaris, god characters in general have been a great source of inspiration for me and tend to be my favorite characters in media and my favorite kind of entity in general. Solaris had also made me become real familiar with all the space-time and multiversal elements used in media. (Now that I think about it, what would happen if someone were to absorb Solaris in his original tiny flame form and assimilate him into their being instead of just blowing him out of existence? Would they gain all of Solaris’ traits and abilities? Become a new form of the entity? It’s something that I tend to imagine when I think about him now. I just want to absorb him and assimilate him into my being. Pardon, ignore my weird personal ramblings here.)
@RedJLPАй бұрын
I’d heard he had a new voice in the form of the Justice Arcana
@etherealhatredАй бұрын
The VA is great but doesn't suit Mephiles at all and whoever says otherwise is lying to himself and coping hard
@RedJLPАй бұрын
@@etherealhatred Uh, you *low key* know you’re talking about Goro Akechi, right?
@SonicAdventureEnjoyerАй бұрын
@@RedJLP yeah, Goro's voice does not fit Mephilies lol, it's too high pitched. Robbie Daymond is Awesome but he's not a Mephilies
@yrooxrksvi7142Ай бұрын
@@etherealhatredHe sounds too weak and pathetic
@SlickDracoАй бұрын
I say the new voice put a new person active on him. I mean, don’t get me wrong. I love the old one, but the new one give you that desperation that cry for help that determination to come back from this endless abyss that he’s trapped himself in or found himself in, I don’t think the old voice would have give off that desperation that the new one is giving so yeah I will say that I love this new voice and props to the actor who played him
@WanderingNerd21Ай бұрын
Did you mean "perspective" ? Also yeah, I agree
@Sonic-hq9zz27 күн бұрын
It’s crazy how strong Sonic & Shadow have become. Before, all of Team Dark had to fight Mephiles and even then he needed to take off his Inhibitor Rings. Now he’s just dunking on his ass.
@mrfoxly6833Ай бұрын
The best part? Shadow finishes off Mephiles with the same trick he pulled on Silver back then. “Chaos Control!” Whack!
@ZillennialjayjayАй бұрын
Mephiles doesn’t sound menacing in this as he did in 06. I know it’s a new VA, but I can hear the desperation of wanting to exist.
@DustfiredАй бұрын
Alot of people bash on the VA for Mephiles but don't consider that Mephiles is basically trapped in his own existential hell. It has driven him to near insanity and destroyed the confidence he once had. He's not pulling the strings anymore. He's desperate to feel existence once again. Also Shadow is so powerful he beat Mephiles out of canon. Literally.
@cobaltprime9467Ай бұрын
Why’s he surprised Shadow doesn’t know him? He knows he’s from an erased, or severed, timeline. He’s fighting to return to a living timeline, the presumably Prime Timeline. Too bad for him Iblis is lost. Even if he returned, the Flames of Disaster wouldn’t be there. He could never be made whole again. But maybe just existing would be enough for him. Here’s hoping he’ll get to return again.
@Nov-5062Ай бұрын
I think that the "what? Did you forget about me again?" Line is a reference to how he introduced himself to Shadow. They put a lot of references in this game's dialogues, and I mean A LOT.
@gemmatweedy7585Ай бұрын
Coming to think about it, Ibls could still exist in the current timeline. Blaze absorbed him and dissapered at the end of 06. There's a theory that when she dissapered, she travled back in time to another dimention, becomming the current Blaze through amnisure. It's a bit far fetched, but hey, it's Sonic! They've retconned bigger stuff before. Anyway, IF they make the theory cannon, then our Blaze could be holding Iblis inside of her, making her the new Iblis Trigger. I don't think the franchise would go that far, but hey, good fodder for a tragic Blaze fanfic ;P
@Nov-5062Ай бұрын
@@gemmatweedy7585 I mean you don't even have to go that far. Crisis city exists in Sonic Generations, which means that the timeline when Iblis burned the world exists as well. All Mephiles needs is to go there, but I guess he lost his chance
@cobaltprime946722 күн бұрын
@@Nov-5062my guess is both Crisis City and the Arena where the Scepter of Darkness is function as a kind of Limbo. Places outside of time left over from Solaris’s flame being blown out. Since the events of 06 did happen that timeline had to go somewhere. Perhaps some kind of cosmic force or temporal law at play keeping them trapped and separated. The shenanigans of Time Eater and Doom opened the door to these temporal prisons. Giving Mephiles the opportunity to escape. How exactly? Idk, but beating Shadow is part of it. Iblis might have been able to escape too but with his essence spread out throughout the city he can’t reform into his full self. Not that it matters since he’s a mindless monster. Mephiles was the consciousness of Solaris. The “brains” if you will. The devs definitely didn’t go that deep into thought about this but it’s fun to theorize over. Tho I still hope they bring Mephiles back to the prime timeline for good. I’m a fan of Sonic not just facing Eggman all the time. I’m also the same with Bowser not being the big bad in Mario games all the time (why I particularly loved the first 3 Mario and Luigi RPGs). Mephiles coming back as a villain and having no means of merging with Iblis would make him a better recurring character. He would have new motives for his actions. And he’d be ideal for the main antagonist for a Shadow solo game. Side Note: I’d also love to see the comic characters come into the games. By all accounts, the IDW comics are part of the main canon. And they each have their own unique abilities and can function as either player characters or bosses. Like Rough and Tumble, Surge (who could be a rival boss or a playable character), Kit, Doctor Starline, and Mimic.
@NukaCorgiАй бұрын
I honestly love his new voice, you can hear how desperate he is to be real again, how angry he is that he’s not remembered. I actually ended up liking him more here than in 06 itself LOL.
@marcosandrey505929 күн бұрын
3:02 ok i dont see enough people talking about how the transformation kind of looks like iblis
@dashthehedgehog2612Ай бұрын
Definitely a very cool bossfight, love it. Mephiles was always a very "meh" villain in my opinion, but it's cool that this is a fight in which he knows he's been removed from time.
@deltamachine34310 күн бұрын
3:45 I love how Mephiles has more expressivity in this scene than the entire cast in Sonic Forces.