Sonic Forces Re-Imagined is INCREDIBLE! (SHC 2022)

[@atomic...]

The mod generally feels like someone has restored cut parts of each level. When this mod is done it could generally be the definitive version of the game.

[@TheFainter94]

They made the mod feel organic and be part of the stage instead of just add stuff to make it harder, its amazing!!

[@atomic...]

It's rather impressive.

[@ionutnertan]

It's been so long since I played Forces that i forgot how the levels looks, i though this was just a mod to make the levels look much better, not that they change the level itself, cuz i was so confused to think that: did Forces levels were actually this good?

[@atomic...]

Honestly the mod just feels like there restoring the levels to how they should have been.

[@Alovon]

@@atomic... aka if Sonic Team had more than a year or so to make Sonic Forces content-wise

[@jesuspernia8031]

Most Sonic Forces mods just add a bunch of obstacles to the level but that doesn’t fix that the levels themselves are mediocre at best. This actually makes the levels decent.

[@Trashedaccount123]

Sadly this game even with mods will always be on rails in a straight line with the spectacles trying to compensate for it

[@clairemcdaid4310]

@@Trashedaccount123so it’s a sonic boost game?

[@kendymanette4467]

​@@clairemcdaid4310 bro...

[@clairemcdaid4310]

@@kendymanette4467 just saying the boost games are kind of just going in a straight line reacting to obstacles

[@This-is-a-commentt]

⁠@@clairemcdaid4310bro, that’s a gross over simplification of the boost, if we look at games like sonic unleashed or generations, you’re not going in a straight line for most of the level, you’re rail grinding, wall jumping, going to alternate pathways, etc. and the goal is to keep up your speed with said pathways, they’re shortcuts, not just straight lines, there is a lot of stuff to do in those stages, not just going in a straight line and dodging obstacles TLDR: the boost formula is about memorising the levels and keeping up your speed, racking up a score and trying to get the highest rank.

[@de606returns6]

Everyone making something on SHC 22 deserves a chef's kiss for how much work and effort they put into their mods and games

[@Eman02kG]

Bane is that you?

[@LilXancheX]

@@Eman02kG no

[@sonicovertime]

Ironically Aqua Road is 🔥. The enslaved workers added to Arsenal Pyramid is a great addition to the atmosphere. Same with the citizens screaming throughout Sunset Heights. Oh btw, I forgot to include in the description but the Shadow Avatar is by SonicOnBox, you can get it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ2ndoCiiLpkrKM

[@evdestroy5304]

So just...add it to the description

[@sonicinfinity2162]

Shadow having a scarf looks so real and almost canon

[@gameman5804]

Tbh the worst stage in this mod is EASILY Iron Fortress.

[@STICKOMEDIA]

Nice

[@thefastcommenter7774]

Just add it to the description? Thought that would be common sense, but I guess not

[@TheSunsetHero256]

I never thought I'd see a fan mod add environmental story-telling to a game. It's incredible how much those touches add to the experience, and how easily Sega could've had this in the game from Go, but didn't.

[@supergenesisstation1991]

They shouldn't have spent 2 years on the game's engine and 1 or 2 years on the concept/ideas/premise of the game while leaving only 1 whole year to the actual gameplay. Not to mention they shouldn't have lied about what team was making the game.

[@gameman5804]

@@supergenesisstation1991 A graphics engine is just as important to make alongside the game itself. Sonic Team is Sonic Team!

[@supergenesisstation1991]

@@gameman5804 doesn't matter, still shouldn't have taken more time to work on over the main gameplay. Also it was said by Iizuka in 2016 that people of the A and B teams of sonic team (the A team that made generations and the B team with colors) was going to make forces and in the end that was a lie. Only one person from the B team (who also lead the development for lost world) along with some newbies who knew nothing about sonic made forces. So once again, they shouldn't have lied to us.

[@vegitodude9225]

I mean really you should be focusing on the gameplay if you focus on the gameplay it’ll be fun for other people to play it

[@WildKamuran]

well if not for forces's flops, they may have not had more motivations to make sonic frontiers a better game. Sometimes mistakes is necessary for a Better version or improv and learning from the mistakes and not repeating them.

[@knuxuki1013]

Not only is it more fun it's also visually impressive, Aqua Road for example I also love how slightly cinematic the levels are now, it's got action

[@VongolaXZax]

Sonic and Shad working together, is honestly something I would like to see more of, they worked together in some games, but especially O6, we're they had the normal rivalry/respect for each other and friendship. Not the, "I'm more Superior than all of you!!!!!!!!" attitude we have today.

[@justiceiria869]

That shadow is just a skin for the avatar

[@VongolaXZax]

@@justiceiria869 yeah I know that, I'm just talking about the actual Shadow working with Sonic.

[@sebastianmartinez5963]

Bro, that's only in Sonic Boom. In the mainline games, Shadow is fine and doesn't act like a edgylord as you might think. Proof of this is the Episode Shadow DLC from Sonic Forces.

[@DarkShadowX9]

@@sebastianmartinez5963 Did you forget about Shadow the Hedgehog (the game)? He acts like that in his own game. Also, Episode Shadow doesn't proof that at all. PERIOD.

[@sebastianmartinez5963]

@@DarkShadowX9 It is true that Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) was a setback as far as Shadow's characterization is concerned and that because of that game Shadow gained the fame of being an edgy character, but honestly I didn't think it was bad to see Shadow in a state existential crisis, not knowing who he is and having vague flashbacks of his past. In addition, the end of the game was correct, because there Shadow decides to put aside his past in order to move forward. And that leads us to Sonic 06 where we see a fully grown Shadow, willing to help Sonic and his friends when they need it most and forging a friendship with Rouge and Omega and that would continue to this day. To be clear, I only take into account games that are part of the canon, so games like: Sonic Chronicles or Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric I don't take them into account, let alone IDW comics.

[@Eldoofus]

Somehow, the partner's silence towards Sonic's optimism kinda fits Shadow.

[@jowbokitten2317]

ye! Sonic's "right, partner?" line can now be interpreted as him teasing his frenemy and Shadow's silence can be interpreted as him just wanting to focus on the mission. Their chemistry feels a lot more natural rather than Sonic being all buddy-buddy with a guy he's barely interacted with.

[@Sonic_-cy7lk]

To be honest, I think this is what the cyberspace stages are turning out to be like. Straight Paths with elements leading to different pathways. Honestly, this seems to work well out well for special acts!

[@ctpp64]

Yeah main issues with cyberspace are the short lengths and the slowness

[@Sonic_-cy7lk]

@@ctpp64 I don't think them being short is that much of an issue since they are like 50 of em in the game and they are special stages too but i can agree with the other thing tho. The physics in cyberspace need a lot of tweaking.

[@Neoniq41]

Still pretty bad lvl design

[@neone5657]

It wouldn't have killed to have a bit more speed in the levels tho, although it would've made the stages even shorter than they already are. But overall you are right, so far the only Cyberspace levels with Forces-like level design are the two tutorial ones, everything after that is incredibly more fleshed out, the City Escape Cyberspace in particular.

[@ctpp64]

@@Neoniq41 i mean the level design's are clearly inspired by gens and unleashed so they are def well designed lol

[@nerioroo8442]

Man, sunset heights was already the Best level in the Game, but now it's 100 times better, it's what i want back day, we're running trough a warzone, the people around are screaming for backup and help, all that while we're chasing shadow

[@dangerouslysafe3]

8:25 That callback holy shit.

[@antshield]

I've played the original levels more then I'd like to admit, I can not believe what they accomplished here!! Stage 8 is fantastic. That part with Shadow integrated into the level, I couldn't believe my eyes. I liked the art design and music in forces, but that level design was just awful. Seeing the ideas Sonic Team created but barely took advantage of, fleshed out and brought to its full potential is outstanding.

[@supergenesisstation1991]

Indeed, a lot can be accomplished when you actually put development time into the gameplay, not spending 2 whole years on the game's engine.

[@SNESJerry]

Vanilla Forces’ level design was hold down the boost button, shoot things here and there, or mash dropdash. But here? They took the barebones and built it up to make something actually GOOD!

[@Navi_Silver]

Like most of time, modders do what SEGA didn't. For real, the stages looks like they always should have been with main path and from it, you have take different pathways. Honestly, it worth the detour for a casual Forces playhrought with this mod. And if Cyberspace levels turn out like this, then it we will have something pretty nice to enjoy. Combine with Harder Bosses mod and Forces is an improved title to play. What modders did like here is extracting as much as possible all the potential they can get. While going throughout Sunset Heights, you can hear citizens screaming all around. Nice little details we now have here. #SonicForces-Revamped_Edition

[@nazothehedgehog]

Cool thanks to the fans of Forses, the levels are getting steeper and steeper, just a masterpiece. And thank you for showing them

[@jasefrybo2232]

This should have been called Sonic Forces Extended cause the stages had the same layouts but extended in some areas. But Re-imagined sound good cause modders are trying to make a better stage here 😂

[@Dassaric]

its fantastic to see multiple paths and extended levels. I'm glad to see this game get the love it needed to make it better.

[@jordanmatthew6315]

Sonic and Shadow working together . . . that is pretty cool.

[@ClearwaterMK2]

Let's see how Brandon will tackle Egg Gate, Prison Hall, Mortar Canyon, Null Space & several other levels. I also want to see a Shadow boss fight.

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

If forces was like that, it wouldve been my favorite 3d sonic game, but that spot goes to sonic adventure and sonic unleashed

[@masterdails]

"People complained about Sonic Forces... so I improved it!" - Easy content for the creator

[@xudokai]

wow I never thought I would enjoy watching a forces level until that aqua road. That was beyond clean

[@funnyusername4774]

Sunset heights looks actually insane, ngl I was pretty iffy on the stuff before it but holy shit that level is badass now The integration of shadow into the level is actually genius

[@vwnt]

God the level design are actually good

[@mbdg6810]

Forces just had too short of levels.

[@ZechOfTheWest]

And to think, Sonic Team could've done this if they just had a guy there who was like "hmmm, its a little short, add more to it"

[@pezgato19092]

that perfect timing 1:15

[@FirevexBg]

This stage looks so much fun now, this is the best Forces mod imo

[@aeon87]

I'm crying inside. This is so invigorating.

[@selassieaspen9940]

Man that slow mo was so badass 8:28. Seeing Sonic and Shadow side eye each other is one of the coolest things in video games history. 😊

[@SpectralWolfKing]

I'm guessing that THIS was what sonic forces would be like upon full completion

[@owinoglo]

I honestly think that the way he's modded these levels have made them pretty clean. It still sucks though because all of the levels in Forces are literally like the shortest levels you could possibly have in any game, and there's a %99.5 chance that they will never change how short they are in the future.

[@sebastianmartinez5963]

Sonic Forces Re-Imagined is like P-06, fixes and udgrades the original game. And I love it!

[@DarkShadowX9]

@Sebastian Martinez I couldn't agree more!

[@Neoniq41]

Except for the fact that it's still Sonic forces, you can't fix that piece of trash no matter how hard one might try

[@gameman5804]

@@Neoniq41 06 has so many more fundamental problems with its over reliance on combat, Mach speed, hub worlds, and wretched story that only delusional people can call “good”.

[@kristheforgottenone]

@@Neoniq41 what do you mean by "can't fix"?

[@Neoniq41]

@@kristheforgottenone Forces is so fundamentally broken that a P06 treatment isn't gonna be enough to fix that.

[@bumtee1223]

This is actually really incredible!! I still don't like how different-y the physics and gameplay of Forces are to Generations but this is 1000% an improvement over the original game we were given by Sega. Kudos to the team behind Sonic Forces Re-Imagined!!

[@therealmrarchive]

Shadow having a wisp gun actually makes a lot of sense for him.

[@jordandillow3423]

I’m pretty surprised at how much the new camera angles literally don’t cause the game to crash and burn like seriously this game would be burning while somebody will probably parish from that so literally it baffles me that this is possible like heavy said’s in team fortress 2 No it’s not possible

[@Hyared]

13:47 Sonic Frontiers moment

[@redsonic7rickoverload560]

sorry if this out of topic but sonic overtime what your thought on the sonic froniter monster hunter dlc (i was like huh neat and cool. I wonder if there will be a crossover mission or level or boss fight in sonic froniter with monster hunter either way the outfit is cool)

[@sonicovertime]

I've played abit of Monster Hunter, but not a super fan or anything. I thought the cooking mini-game was the neatest part. I want that. xD

[@shaunathenicehedgehog6740]

*Sonic The Hedgehog And Shadow The Hedgehog Are The Best Hedgehogs Out There!*

[@yrrr4871]

Now all we need to do is fix the story and writing and this will be a top tier sonic game

[@orphic-3766]

The multiple pathways are good but half of the time it just feels so empty, like the creators had no idea what to put in next so they just added in extra straight line running segments.

[@azeroth2994]

"amking everyone work like robots" and they actually show anthros work, gotta love them extra details

[@benji777tm]

I refunded this game one hour after buying it on Steam 5 years ago, this mod is gonna make me buy it again

[@Soniceurs]

I love Sonic Forces and i love your video 😊

[@cloadmario3263]

Sonic forces is incredible this is neat add on to it

[@VongolaXZax]

it's hard to tell, whether or not, Sliver is saying, "big ask or big ass" right here 4:04? I'm like, was this added into the fan game?

[@sonicovertime]

LOOL, I can't unhear it now. Silver about to get punished for making those comments to a co-worker.

[@VongolaXZax]

@@sonicovertime oof, Rouge getting ready to lay down the slap on Sliver boy lmao

[@TheDuckDealer]

@@sonicovertime thats all ive ever been able to hear lol

[@yellowlad5968]

Ikr It's so easy to misheard that line.

[@supertrolle9555]

1:13 that timing

[@ViolNinj156]

It’s not perfect, nor do I feel like I’d enjoy playing the soulless game that is Forces again, but this mod certainly feels like it fixed a lot of things about the original game and made it actually playable. Great job 👍

[@samizahir1951]

I cannot undo how better sonic force would have been if the levels were like this

[@bichoestranhocomcaudas6543]

Is this mod still going to get updates from now on? It would be cool to see revamp mortar canyon

[@FlergerBergitydersh]

Shadow with the gadgets makes so much sense. Just weave in those opening shadow level levels and then story and gameplay could flow much better. Just edit out "rookie" which shouldn't be so hard, considering how much they pause before and after "rookie"

[@YoloSoul]

seeing shadow run without skating is so cursed

[@the_stranger833]

When i saw the thumbnail i thought there would be a shadow boss fight

[@sonicovertime]

I wish, like the Chaos one they added. I mean at least there's a mini Shadow confrontation though.

[@the_stranger833]

@@sonicovertime true

[@IcarusMundi]

The map that allows me to listen to the full Arsenal Pyramid OST.

[@joshth647]

The 2021 version impressed me. Now I'm just shocked.

[@socheata643]

This is the best fix, than the original ever! 💙🇺🇸👍🏻🙏🦔💗🇰🇭🖤

[@SaltedMallows]

So the major re-imagining is just imagining the created character wasn't there? Personally I find the created character is one of the more interesting parts of Sonic Forces while the customization was underwhelming I feel it was a very long time coming for this sort of game to be realized because people have made original sonic characters for a long time. It also meshes pretty well with the army resistance vibes and does well to help establish that more people besides sonic and his friends exist on this planet like IDW does in the sonic metal virus saga. I only wish maybe they took the more intricate story of Sonic Frontiers and the involvement of Iann Flynn and mixed those together with this concept of having a player character, but having a better character creator.

[@VongolaXZax]

The Reimagining everyone wanted

[@spiralthephantom]

This is by far the best Sonic Forces mod. It just feels complete now!

[@pizzachu2281]

One of my weird hangups about Modern Classic Sonic is that they don't do enough twists and stuff with the camera like in Generations' classic green hill. Glad the dev(s) out some in iron fortress

[@theamazingmaymay123]

Honeslty, I kinda wish forces was like a sonic heroes type and it gave us. sonic, shadow, tails, Knuckles and Amy playable.

[@Tails_Z]

Hey pal there is a mod I want you to showcase it came out like 7 days ago and it’s finally come true. Thanks to this user. It’s a Sonic Forces mod that shows Infinite unmasked face with his face being like the art style from the IDW Comic where now we see his scar, with yellow and blue eye. His true face you seen all over the internet. The one Infinite’s past name was Zero. It has his face from the "Rise of Infinite" IDW Comic you got to showcase it. It’s completely new to see! V2.0 Unmasked never got showcased before. It completely fixes his face to make him accurate to the "Rise of Infinite"

[@Tails_Z]

The link to this mod is right here but you seem to be restricted with links in your comment section so here just search on your internet browser "Sonic Forces Mods Infinite unmasked v2.0" remove the " when you search for it.

[@STICKOMEDIA]

I love it when mods add so much extra detail like this

[@hyper_cb69]

trully had potential. this is proof

[@Barakon]

Guardian rock I still expected to see on fire due to overclocked.

[@beatblocksgaming]

First 06 and now forces, fans are really doing the work to make these games great

[@harrytaylorjr2770]

Sad thing about Forces is that the Soundtrack was actually the best thing about the game in my opinion. This game could've been so much more

[@aortaplatinum]

Holy shit, when this is finished, combining it with Overclocked as the "last story" would make this game finally worth $40!

[@exist4046]

"might be a big ask for the rookie" The rookie literally being Shadow, who's probably MORE experienced with the whole "infiltrating bases and fucking shit up to hell and back to finish missions" than even Sonic is. I know I know it's a modded avatar it's just. Really funny to me.

[@dawnstar9557]

Why wouldn't you want those awesome Shadow shaped quills with Red Streaks, they look cool.

[@rodytalks3989]

I love how much more story driven this is

[@lordenma4449]

Ik why this feels like a long mod because they made everything with levels and made it better Sega :the people wants interaction what should we get them Employee 1: button spamming Employee 2: fake evil villains that won't return Employee 3:good levels and good story Sega :kicks employee 3 out of the office * Employee 3 was the best employee the others are to lazy

[@randomd00d19]

I skipped out on forces. Can somebody list out the changes?

[@sonicovertime]

Well basically half the stage is completely different. Like actual new geometry and such. With custom events like the giant crab walking around and such. Abit hard to explain but it's basically entirely different for like 50% of the level or more.

[@jrreplays77]

Tbh my biggest gripe w/forces was how ridiculously short the levels were. SHC 22 did what SEGA couldn’t

[@thatnick967]

This makes me realize how much better the game couldve been if they replaced Classic Sonic with Shadow. Or the OC with Shadow. Or keep OC, replace Classic with Shadow, and unlock the various other characters to be playable, with unique gameplay styles, refined to near perfection that shows that love and care went into the 4 year long development cycle.

[@appleandaria6947]

Screenshot because I love this comment.

[@brickzoneanimations8395]

You Know instead of making a playable customized character make shadow more playable and involved in the forces story and I like it!

[@ledestroyerofworlds9366]

It’s cool that the og Arsenal pyramid starts at one minute in Also it’s cool That the grappling hook requires timing

[@bandicootsauce4569]

Ooh, I love it when 'what could have been' is made real! (:

[@Iheartdrumzz]

Such an underrated game. I've played all the good boost sonic games and this is one of my favorites.

[@Blue_Velocityy]

Hi sonic overtime I'm in your discord, Anyway I wanted to say thank you, you inspired me to be a sonic gamer on KZbin, keep doing what you do

[@sonicovertime]

Thank you! Awesome to hear. :)

[@Blue_Velocityy]

@@sonicovertime No thank you! I love your videos

[@AlexandruCatrina-bk6jg]

I wish we got those in the actual game so you can see many details in every locations

[@Demonic_Pulsar]

why is the rookie shadow and not tails

[@arthurbotedosanjos7046]

Because shadow love guns

[@noahattard322]

cause Shadow can handle himself unlike Forces Tails

[@Demonic_Pulsar]

@@noahattard322 lmao

[@BlackNinja2630]

Starting to think they should not make rough drafts of ideas and the community will do Sonic as a brand a whole lot better than Sega to be bluntly honest. Fans have made piss ass games for Sonic far better and completing the idea it seemed Sega was going for. This is why I think deadlines, can be as harmful. Rush to finish something, and something can turn out to be half done when it could be as seamless as this.

[@Dork_000]

Sega didn't make the games

[@TheHammerGuy94]

IRON FORTRESS THO!!! My most hated level. (and probably a lot of people's most hated level in the game) I dunno what bonehead thought the AUTO SCROLL parts of the stage was a good idea THIS IS WAY BETTER!!

[@fantastic0990]

why console players can't have mods😢

[@LeoEmber]

Because it would be impossible for people to mod this on the consoles it’s easier to do it on computers

[@r.a.rillustration8619]

8:17 Those combat ships that are seen in the background landscape, are they from Eggman's army or from the resistance?

[@oh5079]

Spectacular work

[@soullsilverr]

listening to energetic music and then just hearing people get shot up and dying in a sonic game is hilarious

[@uwechipuazo739]

First Sonic P-06 and now this? I’m sure that if some Sonic game become not so good they will just make it better

[@thatonepipsqueak887]

Seeing Shadow uncharacteristically cut loose like this is unusual, but cool!

[@MusicDiscYT]

OH GOD THIS IS AWESOME!!!

[@yeildishere]

This mod genuinely will be great when it releases and hoping it fixes the issue of the game and make the story actually good but that's demanding so yeah not gonna demand but maybe just ask nicely but hey this is pretty decent all things going for it so neat

[@TheBanishedWind]

Only way this mod could be even better (dunno if Avatar->Shadow is part of it) is if they manage to use Charrii5's proposed story.

[@corbinpyles]

This game would've been better if it was exactly like this but no the made the game short and the boss battles aren't that interesting either imagine if they made the ai in the boss battles aggressive the higher the difficulty you're playing on like on normal difficulty they're not that aggressive but on hard difficulty they're aggressive.

[@LeviAuren]

Arsenal pyramid but the level actually contains the whole song

[@mechashadow]

Man Forces really had a lot of Lost World's Artstyle left in it.

[@terroroftech]

8:29 YOOOOOOOO

[@monforfun2712]

If Sega ever decides to create an “ultimate” forces like they did with colours they should use this mod as a base for it.

[@TheJmack90]

How do you unlock “Taking a Spin”?

[@sonicovertime]

Find 10 Red Rings.

[@TheJmack90]

@@sonicovertime Bet!

[@godofgames1781]

How to fix Iron Fortress: Make it only 1 minute long

[@amaniwhite9622]

Hey there overtime. Nice to be back with you. I needed a chili dog after so long after my big day today.

[@lonelyonionagain.]

5:36 What the heck was that noise?

[@TheDuckDealer]

chao

[@jared11111]

As good as the name "Sonic Forces Reimagined" is, I prefer the term "Sonic Forces, but made with passion instead of being a budget game.