Sonic Frontiers - The Wanderer Theory

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Sonic Frontiers is looking to actually have a focus on story! And with clues given in the most recent story trailer, I think I have a theory on where this narrative might go. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the Wanderer Theory.
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0:00​​​​​​​ Intro
1:07 The Story So Far
1:50 Story Trailer Analysis
4:08 Shadow of the Colossus Parallels
5:24 The Wanderer Theory
9:31 Munk Pack
11:13 End Screen
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@chaomix
@chaomix Жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think about my crazy theory! Personally, I think there's way too many parallels for it to be a coincidence! Also, huge thank you to Munk Pack for sponsoring today's video! Go to thld.co/munkpack_chaomix_0822 and use code CHAOMIX to get 20% off your first purchase! Thanks to Munk Pack for sponsoring today’s video!
@KwartOrSomething
@KwartOrSomething Жыл бұрын
First
@nikolaperisic7924
@nikolaperisic7924 Жыл бұрын
Second
@joel9104
@joel9104 Жыл бұрын
Third hehe
@BootlegGremlin
@BootlegGremlin Жыл бұрын
honestly i really like this theory. i really hope this is what the story goes with. it makes the most sense.
@yugotokusatsu289
@yugotokusatsu289 Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory...but one thing still hasn't been answered... What does killing harmless Coco's have to do with protecting the Starfall Islands?
@kirbdabirb5627
@kirbdabirb5627 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Sonic being a bad guy Without knowing he's a bad guy is such a cool premise for a story i swear this is something i didnt know i wanted
@DLxxx
@DLxxx Жыл бұрын
It's a cool idea, but we don't even have enough context to say this is what they're going for. All we have are the cryptic warnings of SAGE (who seems to be the one holding Amy hostage, based on that scene), and literally nothing else. Even IF Sonic unintentionally releases some sort of danger, that doesn't mean it'll say anything about his character (especially if he _needs_ to carry out these actions to save Tails and Amy regardless).
@igottakirbranger8995
@igottakirbranger8995 Жыл бұрын
@@DLxxxit’s all been confirmed he has to save Knuckles
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250 Жыл бұрын
@@igottakirbranger8995 the guy read my mind
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250
@verdadeirojoaovitor3250 Жыл бұрын
@@igottakirbranger8995 I was going to use the dormin model to make my character there in my Sonic game that I'm making
@igottakirbranger8995
@igottakirbranger8995 Жыл бұрын
@@verdadeirojoaovitor3250did I ask
@farid3454
@farid3454 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me so much of the black knight story line. With the whole sonic being the "bad guy" who wants to let the world have an end and all that
@jamiegioca9448
@jamiegioca9448 Жыл бұрын
Y'know, whenever I think about this plotline, I always interpret it as "Sonic knows that living an eternal life that only gets worse and worse is torture, and he wouldn't wish that on his worst enemy"
@Super_Cinder.Inferno
@Super_Cinder.Inferno Жыл бұрын
I Was Just About To Say That, Farid! *Bruh Moment To Yourself*
@thelobsterlover9449
@thelobsterlover9449 Жыл бұрын
The cursed arm thing also reminds me of Sonic and the Secret Rings
@farid3454
@farid3454 Жыл бұрын
@@thelobsterlover9449 true but instead of a hot gennie it seems to be rather more dangerous in nature
@farid3454
@farid3454 Жыл бұрын
@Kian True. But what it reminds is how sonic doesn't mind being the bad guy everyone's in a while like he said in his own words. So maybe frontier is lining onto that idea. Sonic does what he thinks is right even if he is seen as a bad person for it. Which just sounds so cool
@dominicbrock4350
@dominicbrock4350 Жыл бұрын
This theory might also be somewhat reminiscent of Black Knight, where you unknowingly help merlina free the kingsom just for her to make an unending reality it also fits with the saying of him saying that he doesn't mind being the bad guy, and pushing it to its limit of how far he'll go
@kaistudios5536
@kaistudios5536 Жыл бұрын
_"Guess I can't be the hero _*_every time."_*
@castform7
@castform7 Жыл бұрын
Plus even when Merlina revealed her plot to make the kingdom eternal, Sonic tries to stop her because of his beliefs of nothing lasting forever. I wouldn't say Sonic's a bad person for not wanting something to go on forever but I can definitely see it from Merlina's perspective and how Sonic seems to be stopping a "good ending".
@amazingboi9388
@amazingboi9388 Жыл бұрын
isnt that in secret rings
@ZOMBOA_GAMING
@ZOMBOA_GAMING Жыл бұрын
@@amazingboi9388 no
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 Жыл бұрын
@@amazingboi9388 It's the second storybook game.
@revolution4122
@revolution4122 Жыл бұрын
Finally. Another Sonic story that teaches a valuable lesson to the player. We haven't had stories like this since, well... you know.
@CakesWarden
@CakesWarden Жыл бұрын
Sonic Forces taught us to clean the world we live nobody can stop us triple boost your mask can’t hide how sad and lonely you are
@ronjobimusic
@ronjobimusic Жыл бұрын
@@CakesWarden ok
@mike032390
@mike032390 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed sonics expression at the end of forces it was like he knew that it wasn't over like he knew the beginning of the end was coming like something he couldn't stop...
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 Жыл бұрын
@@CakesWarden cringe story bad delivery
@jamiegioca9448
@jamiegioca9448 Жыл бұрын
@@CakesWarden I feel like it tried to teach the same lesson Heroes did, but just couldn't for the life of it
@musicmasher4503
@musicmasher4503 Жыл бұрын
I was actually wondering if the voice guiding Sonic will end up being the true villain. The voice is guiding Sonic to the world’s demise without him knowing it by using his friends as bait. Sage knows this and is targeting Sonic. It would be an interesting twist
@PluckyInc
@PluckyInc Жыл бұрын
Honestly, my theory is that SAGE is actually part of a larger intelligence, maybe she was initially designed as a system to manage weaponry of some kind, before she grew beyond her programming. eventually after some large threat, she saw to displace herself from the rest of the world, but in her grief of being alone, she fragmented herself down. the AI that assists sonic is probably her "nature" that was specifically coded into her, but is also a vital portion of her psyche; Eggman probably finds the AI and attempts to use it. maybe the original portion *IS* the AI that assists sonic but inherently forgot why, SAGE would be the main memory. (unaware of things, just that she had to protect something) also, maybe a theory that SAGE was probably called SAGES (Say-jess, or Say-gis). kinda like a NiGHTS/Reala or Balan/Lance-type thing. if intended as a war weapon, maybe Aegis; maybe an Ecnhidna creation before they went down to the Gizoid. though ultimately in-fighting among the echidna tribes caused Chaos to manifest. would be kind of interesting to see how the plot would go once they reveal that Knuckles/Chaos Emerald animation cinematic since he initially seemed disconnected from promotional material besides Amy, Tails and Big. at least im thinking the AI/robots were echidna-made. also have to wonder if the master emerald is involved since it reconstructed some areas within cyberspace, though that could just be from Sonic's memories, rather than any kind of latent echoes of beings that utilized emeralds in the past.
@HubboFilms
@HubboFilms Жыл бұрын
It would be really cool if this were true. But it makes me laugh since back before somic forces. People were making these really complex and in depth theories. For the plot to be the most simplistic and lazy story ever💀I hope this time its different and they actually put care into the writing
@elmemearana
@elmemearana Жыл бұрын
@@HubboFilms yeah. I mean, Ian is just writing the dialogues. The story is told by SEGA/Sonic Team. So, if they really learned from their issues, I will hope they build a pretty good lore into this.
@Banana807
@Banana807 Жыл бұрын
@@elmemearana i mean so far the story seems way better than forces
@myleswelnetz6700
@myleswelnetz6700 Жыл бұрын
No one needs Big.
@elmemearana
@elmemearana Жыл бұрын
@@myleswelnetz6700 tbh, I kinda like Big imo. He's just a chill guy, honestly. His gameplay? Yeah, it is overwhelmed...
@nicktb1999
@nicktb1999 Жыл бұрын
Ian also worked on the archie sonic comics. One of my favorite arcs "sparks of life" was written by him
@nicktb1999
@nicktb1999 Жыл бұрын
@Kian i'm not saying that, in the video ian is only credited for the idw comics So i wanted to mention he also did archie sonic comics. And that my favorite arc in sonic was written by him Nothing more
@Leemmmm
@Leemmmm Жыл бұрын
Seeing a little more of the cutscenes makes this theory really sound. The voice calls Sonic "the key" which could easily be turned around as "the key that will set me free." I imagine that the fifth island will see us rescuing the voice's owner, or something like that, fully releasing her onto the islands to do what she pleases. It's fun to think about
@kyles9937
@kyles9937 Жыл бұрын
Then, in the endgame, Sonic will realize what's happened, and Sage will help him defeat the true villain, maybe like the final battle of Sonic Unleashed where Chip helps Super Sonic defeat Dark Gaia.
@yugotokusatsu289
@yugotokusatsu289 Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory...but one thing still hasn't been answered... What does killing harmless Coco's have to do with protecting the Starfall Islands?
@neone5657
@neone5657 Жыл бұрын
They are too cute, they are attracting tourists who wants to see them and it pisses off SAGE who wants no one in her Islands.
@yugotokusatsu289
@yugotokusatsu289 Жыл бұрын
@@neone5657 lol. XD
@AriCircuit
@AriCircuit Жыл бұрын
Maybe they're invasive?
@yugotokusatsu289
@yugotokusatsu289 Жыл бұрын
@@AriCircuit Invasive in what way exactly? I don't see these little guys interfacing with the tech of the island like Sonic is.
@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon
@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon Жыл бұрын
@@neone5657 Ha ha ha.
@Possum_Zilla
@Possum_Zilla Жыл бұрын
Maybe Sonic gets fully corrupted and by the end of the game he uses the chaos emeralds and get a kind of new super form (Super Corrupted Sonic). But Sega would probably do something corny, and say the power of friendship saved him.🦔
@zenthenerdgamer4649
@zenthenerdgamer4649 Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome, and a part two to this game where Sonic's allies and enemies make a FRONTIER to stop Sonic from going on a rampage or something.........maybe I just wanna play as shadow alright!
@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770
@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe the corruption doesn’t have much effect. Something similar already happened. Remember Unleashed? Average people and some creatures (like the Phoenix) were possessed by Dark Gaia, but Sonic was mentally unaffected because, according to Chip, he is just too good.
@myleswelnetz6700
@myleswelnetz6700 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe the Chaos Emeralds reverse his corruption.
@zenthenerdgamer4649
@zenthenerdgamer4649 Жыл бұрын
@@myleswelnetz6700 that's a good idea
@sero9673
@sero9673 Жыл бұрын
@@zenthenerdgamer4649 and this could be the adventure 3 continuation
@LexStormA
@LexStormA Жыл бұрын
I honestly had very similar thoughts when looking at the trailer and some of the cutscenes shown from gamescom. When you think about it, a couple things don't line up with Sonic and friends arriving at Starfall Islands and Sage's intentions. If Sage is the one behind trapping everyone in cyberspace, and is aware that the Titans are holding Sonic's friends hostage, why wouldn't she make a compromise? She releases Sonic's friends, tell them about the chaos emeralds since that's why they're here, and everyone goes home happy. Even if they turn on her, she'd easily be able to send everyone back except for Sonic and continue trying to stop him I guess. Simply put, what if Sage is completely unaware of this? And as far as she knows, local island hedgehog is currently ruining everything for no reason. I agree that the story might have taken some cues from Shadow of the Colossus, but I think the twist might happen as soon as the first island. Because unlike that game, Frontiers has Sage, and it's abundantly clear what her motives are. They're not being subtle, with her trailer lines and even cutscene dialogue reiterating that she just wants Sonic to stop. She even tells him not to approach the titan instead of just outright attacking him. We know for a fact that she's trying to stop him because he could potentially cause cataclysmic events. With that, I can't see her remaining as an antagonist for much longer. I can't imagine she'll constantly appear throughout the game to go "Sonic stop, you'll doom us all!" while Sonic never listens until the "twist" where he obviously dooms them all. It might be that the voice betrays Sonic after he collects the seven emeralds, and possibly uses that power to sieze control of the islands. And, from that point on, Sonic and Sage are working together to stop them and save his friends. To provide some minor evidence for this, a while back there were leaked files of Sonic Origins that belonged to Frontiers. Said files leaked Big the Cat, Cyberspace, and Elder Kocos. There were also files related to Sage, such as "SageUseHour" and, more importantly, "SecondTutoIslandSage". This sounds like the twist happens at the end of Kronos, Sonic and Sage team up, and from that point on she's a part of Sonic's abilities. Hence you're given a tutorial on the second island of how to use her.
@nathanfeinman5816
@nathanfeinman5816 Жыл бұрын
This actually makes a lot of sense, when you consider that the original leak for the game talked about a “ghost girl” giving you rings in the boss fights.
@fastboi2390
@fastboi2390 Жыл бұрын
I love this premise, we haven't had a (relatively) deeper story in a long time, I'd love to see something like this in the game. One more thing I noticed: the enemies don't really look to have an "evil" design. Large bosses and enemies of the past, like Dark Gaia or Solaris or the Dark Queen or the Time Eater for example, usually look pretty evil and scary. These new enemies remind me more of Guardians from Breath of the Wild: not inherently evil, but controlled to attack the player. The devs designed the Guardians to not look evil, because they originally aren't. Perhaps a similar situation is going on here. Also I love how defiantly he looks back at Sage as he presses that Cyber Space throne thing.
@nottoofast
@nottoofast Жыл бұрын
I love Sonic being the “Bad guy” in SATBK, so I hope we can get to see that in this game again.
@sonic92889
@sonic92889 Жыл бұрын
This what I love about sonic's character. Whether he viewed as a hero or bad guy he doesn't care. He will always do things his way. Sometimes his actions are reckless and can cause harm but in the end sonic will always do the right thing but just in his own way it doesn't matter what nobody thinks of him.
@rasby977
@rasby977 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if we get like a choice, or Sonic has to make a choice whether to save the world or save his friends
@6000RUBBERFROGS
@6000RUBBERFROGS Жыл бұрын
In some way this was kinda accurate
@ToxiChaos
@ToxiChaos Жыл бұрын
I really wonder if the Phantom Ruby or even Infinite will be involved someway, the corruption on Sonic definitely looks similar to the virtual reality effects, also, just as an observation, Infinite and Sage pretty much have the same color scheme
@Possum_Zilla
@Possum_Zilla Жыл бұрын
I think Eggman may have used the Phantom Ruby to make the digital virus that could be cool.
@garrettmurphy2447
@garrettmurphy2447 Жыл бұрын
Infinite is dead.
@ToxiChaos
@ToxiChaos Жыл бұрын
@@garrettmurphy2447 yeah, but maybe this is like "his final plan" or something, or possibly it's just eggman using the Phantom Ruby for the final time who knows
@morrienikka3787
@morrienikka3787 Жыл бұрын
it would be so cool if these islands are 'the origin' of the phantom ruby-
@bigcade554
@bigcade554 Жыл бұрын
Virtual reality, cyber space. Similar concepts. A storyline connection to Forces would also be a good way to explain what happened with Eggman. He kind of just disappears at the end of Forces, and we see him trapped in cyberspace in Frontiers. I hope we get some kind of explanation, unlike Generations where I guess he just found a way out.
@jovani6044
@jovani6044 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling Sonic is going to be the most badass he has ever been since Unleashed.
@jamiegioca9448
@jamiegioca9448 Жыл бұрын
3:10 That reminds me of that Amy line in Sonic 06: "If I had to choose between the world and Sonic, I would choose Sonic"
@Exceed_HS
@Exceed_HS Жыл бұрын
I know people wanted a bit more from the story trailer, but they did show enough info so we can have cool theory videos like this
@CitrusTheNerd
@CitrusTheNerd Жыл бұрын
I had the same mother-daughter theory months ago, it just doesn't make sense to have two sentient AI in a game with no connection. However, we know Sage is Eggman's creation now gone rogue according to previous story info, so it would be impossible for Sage to be from the Starfall Islands and therefore impossible for her to have a relationship with the island's AI. Unless...they're the same. Hear me out, Eggman tries to fuse his AI Sage with the peaceful AI of the island. In doing so, the island AI's directive get's distorted. It still wants to protect the island, but now tries to rule over it with an iron fist and uses robots to do so, kinda like a certain Egghead we know. However, a piece of the island's AI breaks away before fusing, uncorrupted and looking for someone to save the day and stop it's corrupted half. In any case I find it hard to imagine a scenario where Eggman's AI ends up being a good guy. She tried to kill a Koco!
@SlugKingsly
@SlugKingsly Жыл бұрын
As soon as they released footage for Frontiers, I thought it looked like Shadow of the Colossus. Everyone jumped to Breath of the Wild comparisons, but that game was definitely influenced by SotC as well. The whole empty-field vibe and giant enemies just screamed SotC to me.
@ajflink
@ajflink Жыл бұрын
I mean the ominous voice in your game telling you to slay titans saying "thy" and "thou" while Sonic is being tainted by something ancient...kinda like Wander.
@idunno7427
@idunno7427 Жыл бұрын
SO EXCITED FOR FRONTIERS
@myleswelnetz6700
@myleswelnetz6700 Жыл бұрын
Name one person who isn’t.
@Kappa4987
@Kappa4987 Жыл бұрын
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@trinis8726
@trinis8726 Жыл бұрын
XD
@joel9104
@joel9104 Жыл бұрын
Excellent theory, good enough to earn a like but I dont agree. I think this story has parallels to sonic 1, sage is actually destroying the environment to create a robotisicised world and what sage means by "your reckless actions are a danger to this world" is that sonic's actions of destroying the robots and a danger to sages world
@sonic3_da
@sonic3_da Жыл бұрын
This was such a fun watch great job on this video well done!
@sonicstrider0632
@sonicstrider0632 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually excited for Frontiers! It's about time SEGA makes a good Sonic Game. Love your videos btw
@g0ldcurs3
@g0ldcurs3 Жыл бұрын
we just hope.
@ssbfan33
@ssbfan33 Жыл бұрын
I haven't truely played a great 3D Sonic game since Unleashed so I agree it looks good. Plus 5 years of supposed development doesn't hurt.
@danieljuries9473
@danieljuries9473 Жыл бұрын
This theory is actually really cool,this would be the first time sonic is actually the Villian and he doesn't even know it and the person we think is the bad guy really turns out to be the good guy trying to protect the island,save her mother and help sonic realise what's actually happening
@lezlue2273
@lezlue2273 Жыл бұрын
Theory: Sage is covered in red glitching effects similar to how Sonic was. So, what if Sage once went down the same path Sonic is going down, but saw the error of her way and stopped what she was doing before it was too late? What if she went around messing with this world just like Sonic is doing, but then she realized what she’s doing was destroying this world along with herself, and so, she stopped whatever she was doing and made it her duty to protect this world from people like herself and Sonic? The name Sage means wise, after all. Sage may have been an outsider to this world just like Sonic and his friends, but now she has become part of this world, trapped because she's too glitched to leave it.
@rasby977
@rasby977 Жыл бұрын
Okay, this is a very good theory, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is what happens
@Ollie.H-2301
@Ollie.H-2301 Жыл бұрын
Y'know, this "Sage" character reminds me of Merlina from Sonic and the Black Knight.
@voidesper3788
@voidesper3788 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same when the leaks came out about her, although, the AI woman voice clearly isn't her cause they sound different, so this AI voice seems more like Merlina, who kept gaslighting Sonic into her plans just like what the AI could possibly be doing.
@kuma477
@kuma477 Жыл бұрын
Sonic is usually seen trying to save nature so him damaging nature would be a good twist
@rasby977
@rasby977 Жыл бұрын
There should at least be an environmental change or something at the end of the game or through it, because just that twist alone doesn’t really seem that interesting, if we saw trees on fire or water rising or something which would change the experience would be really cool
@Man_Aslume
@Man_Aslume Жыл бұрын
Imagine sonic In a sonic game and he becomes full blown evil I wish there was a sonic choose your own adventure that was actually good
@umbrella3235
@umbrella3235 Жыл бұрын
My theory is that the Starfall Islands are a massive construct created by the Phantom Ruby, with Sage being a physical embodiment of it.
@blumouse8539
@blumouse8539 Жыл бұрын
Honestly there's a simpler solution, if you looked at the Red around Sage and the red in general + all the glitching with Amy in the pod, She's probably *at least* linked to the Phantom Ruby in some way, shape, or form. From a story perspective at least it would make sense, The Phantom Ruby has been a pretty big plot point for a while.
@theeverythingchannel_yt
@theeverythingchannel_yt Жыл бұрын
This is the best theory I've heard yet! Im almost positive this is what's going on here and I completely agree with you.
@Endujuas
@Endujuas Жыл бұрын
I’m optimistic about sonic frontiers
@myleswelnetz6700
@myleswelnetz6700 Жыл бұрын
2:47 Don’t call Sonic a rat. He took that personally in Sonic and the Secret Rings.
@braxto4717
@braxto4717 Жыл бұрын
Very cool vid. Sage (from what we’ve seen) definitely doesn’t strike me as a very trustworthy character at the moment… especially in the opening of the most recent trailer where she seemingly has no qualms getting rid of the little koco in the beginning of the trailer. I wouldn’t listen to a word she says either lol. There’s probably a much bigger mystery at hand. I really have no idea where this story is going. Interested to find out what happens.
@RikiZ8
@RikiZ8 Жыл бұрын
What Sage is up to is very cryptic and we know nothing about the story. Here are some ideas that came to my mind randomly after trailer: 1.Sage may be corrupted or glitchy and keeps changing which side she is on. 2.She is at first on Sonic's side but her methods are ruthless so he doesn't trust her no more. 3.Sonic doesn't trust Sage but she is actually good and maybe there is something more to those koco guys he saves. 4.Since everything has this cyber theme maybe none of this world exist its just simulation and Sage is actually human and imagined this stuff or something of this kind. It's odd to me that she is clearly a little girl. Also what the heck are those purple powers Sonic has? If Sage is red then what this purple energy is from, someone else or her from past or something. I mean it's impossible to figure out right now what is this game about it could be literally anything with so little info.
@emilie8356
@emilie8356 Жыл бұрын
This also reminds me of the metal virus, well, when he left eggman alive and let the metal virus happen indirectly
@thisistwly
@thisistwly Жыл бұрын
It’s scary how this video came out EXACTLY when I woke up
@munkyboi9277
@munkyboi9277 Жыл бұрын
3:11 got those Eren Jaeger vibes
@johnnypollack3243
@johnnypollack3243 Жыл бұрын
Love the video and keep up the great work chaomix
@Kingnorm04
@Kingnorm04 Жыл бұрын
Here after finishing the game, and I just wanna say this aged almost perfectly lol.
@TwitterVS
@TwitterVS Жыл бұрын
Sonic of the Colossus
@ataladin87
@ataladin87 Жыл бұрын
7:04 Not necessarily, Tails could fill the void..or have Sonics friends help him regain Who he is. This could make an entire new continuous series.
@Azure4Shore
@Azure4Shore Жыл бұрын
Personally I'm way more excited for Sonic Frontiers now that a proper story trailer has dropped. Great video Chaomix, can't wait to see what you cook up next!!
@surgeeo1406
@surgeeo1406 Жыл бұрын
When the first proper trailer came out, with a text concept of the game, I immediately caught the similarities to Shadow of the Colossus. When I mentioned it in the comments of some video, I was immediately made fun of, because apparently fery few Sonic fans played SotC? I don't know, but I feel a bit vindicated now, thanks.
@omaralfar1666
@omaralfar1666 Жыл бұрын
Awesome fan theory Chaomix! My only complaint about it would be that if it is entirely or partially true it'd mean that I spoiled myself early on
@Taraku43
@Taraku43 Жыл бұрын
This honestly gave me an idea for the final boss of the game. If the AI who helps us is the bad guy in the end, then it should mean the AI even learns from Super Sonic. So what if, as the final boss of the game, we have to fight a Cyber Super Sonic, instead of us being Cyber Super Sonic. And as a way to cement this idea, a future DLC where we go through a similar adventure but with regular Sonic enemies and other stages, all while the clone of Sonic is slowly learning what it means to be Sonic, while also losing it's sense of heroism and instead of helping the animals ends up corrupting them
@brbboi309
@brbboi309 Жыл бұрын
Holy fucking shit you were right
@fluffyfox3360
@fluffyfox3360 Жыл бұрын
Being tricked by your ally might be like a couple Kirby villains
@Cybertasm8798
@Cybertasm8798 Жыл бұрын
Your theory of Sage being the AI's mother that gets corrupted by Eggman is pretty good. Bus I think it's the other way around and Sage is the one that is corrupted.
@ImJustThatGamer22
@ImJustThatGamer22 Жыл бұрын
Sonic of the Collussus
@C_bart13
@C_bart13 Жыл бұрын
Bro Gamma’s theme fits SO WELL for deep Sonic lore videos lolll
@R-Otaku747
@R-Otaku747 Жыл бұрын
I'd love more sonic theory and lore vids even from older sonic games! They're so interesting!
@alternatenican
@alternatenican Жыл бұрын
I'm also really excited for Sonic Frontiers' story!
@zenthenerdgamer4649
@zenthenerdgamer4649 Жыл бұрын
I think this theory is really good and has me more hype for the game than ever before! This is an awesome twist for Sonic and challenges his moral code. Kinda reminiscent of how Mephiles manipulates Silver to kill Sonic. All in all I just really hope we get a crazy good Sonic game that'll put it back on top. Btw I had a weird theory but what if Amy is somehow connected to Sage and the AI and stuff? Like why just show Amy? We all know Tails is Sonic's best friend and closest companion, he's even in more Sonic games than Amy herself, so why so much new emphasis on Amy's character now? Either this ship finally arrived, or Amy is somehow connected to this island and the many characters inhabiting it. Maybe this AI is using only Amy to manipulate Sonic? Amy could be the woman in a white dress related to the wanderer. Thanks for the hype boost Chaomix😆💯
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Жыл бұрын
So keeping the so far pretty accurate story leaks in mind. Than will we have 2 unrelated AI's in the game. One Eggman made created to take over the starfall islands systems and one ancient one that already was on the island. With how things currently are progressing is it most likely that the Eggman AI is the one that teams up with Sonic as her creator was also captured and sealed in cyber space by the islands AI which will properly be Sage. So as Eggman was interested in these island its save to assume they have some kind of ultimate power he wants to use and Sage tries to keep that thing locked up. Because Sonic and friends stumbled on an chaos Emerald search accidentally into this mess but Sonic being so OP that Sage's usual tricks to contain intruders fail has now to try to stop Sonic how him turn has to properly aid the Eggman AI to unleashed the power Eggman was after as its seal and the cyber space locks on Sonic's friends are on the same system. Sonic's glich-y-ness is properly related to the usual "Cyber space banishment" containment Sage uses that Sonic somehow manged to escape and is used as a ticking time how long Sonic has to beat the like the Fire of judgment in Secret Rings till his escape from Cyber space will result in some nasty after effects. Or maybe till Sage can seal Sonic for good. Fallow that logic will the end than properly be Eggman stealing the main villain stop after his AI successfully used Sonic to free him and give him access to the Ultimate power he was after, Sonic beats again and the day is saved.
@SparkTheHyperion
@SparkTheHyperion Жыл бұрын
Your theory makes sense to me bro. Looking at Sage's design she has that same glitch effect that Sonic has in the nighttime scene. I personally noticed this effect looks similar to the Phantom Ruby's effects, and combined with a confirmed move called "Phantom Dash", I have reason to suspect the Phantom Ruby may somehow be connected to these islands. It's the only explanation I have for why Eggman would be here.
@chantingmammal
@chantingmammal Жыл бұрын
I am very excited and hyped on Sonic Frontiers and I really think your thoughts and crazy theory of the story of the game is amazing and I think that the story is a improvement on the story of Sonic Forces and I am not optimistic about Frontiers, but I really like the Open-Zone and Cyber Space gameplay of Sonic Frontiers!!!
@HedgehogY2K
@HedgehogY2K Жыл бұрын
3:10 sounds familiar (Amy from 06).
@gammaguyyt
@gammaguyyt Жыл бұрын
this is probably the best theory ive seen yet so uhh nice job
@aninesday
@aninesday Жыл бұрын
we also gotta take the jp trailers into account !!! sage says some analytical things about sonic
@chipchap3703
@chipchap3703 Жыл бұрын
Cool video
@castform7
@castform7 Жыл бұрын
There was a lot of stuff in here that I didn't even think about but sounds very plausible. I'm definitely very intersted in a possible moral dilemma. "A world or a select few of your loved ones" is a question even I couldn't answer in full confidence so it would be cool to see how it's tackled here (if it is tackled that is. Remember, it's just a theory. A GA-).
@PossiblyAkid
@PossiblyAkid Жыл бұрын
A GAY THEORY! REMEMBER TO LIKE SUBSCIRBE AND SHARE IN 5 SECONDS OR THIS SPIDER WILL END UP ON YOUR FACE TONIGHT!1!1!1!1!!!
@Debaronii
@Debaronii Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!!!
@Kjdoesrandomthings
@Kjdoesrandomthings Жыл бұрын
Others: oh cool theory Me: *HIS HAIR IS BLONDE NOW-*
@That_one_idiot1234
@That_one_idiot1234 Жыл бұрын
great theory!
@Hynotama
@Hynotama Жыл бұрын
Given the somewhat recent discourse surrounding the comics and how "sonic bad cause not end eggman", I hope this isn't a trend where the writer keeps portraying sonic as worse and worse, with flaws after flaws after flaws. Sonic is the type of character with no arc or growth, but rather who makes the character arcs happen for other characters.
@TheCrazyfilmsinc
@TheCrazyfilmsinc Жыл бұрын
Dude you were like right on the money lol
@boywithamask801
@boywithamask801 Жыл бұрын
I like this theory I think this good for the story for sonic frontiers
@myleswelnetz6700
@myleswelnetz6700 Жыл бұрын
Sonic means no ill will, but sometimes, he is no less gullible than Knuckles.
@natejones5873
@natejones5873 Жыл бұрын
Great vid!!! Anyone know what song plays in the intro section of the video?
@mollyjayhedgehog6276
@mollyjayhedgehog6276 Жыл бұрын
You made a very good point I gess we get the game and found out
@draggo69
@draggo69 Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@TheZeroNeonix
@TheZeroNeonix Жыл бұрын
Imagine at the climax of the game, Sonic getting stabbed in the back by the voice that had been guiding Sonic the whole time. Then Eggman pumps his fist and says, "Yes! That's how it feels!"
@Legoluigi26
@Legoluigi26 Жыл бұрын
Shadow of the Colossus is my favorite video game, and these connections to Frontiers have me even more sold!
@dragonninja9908
@dragonninja9908 Жыл бұрын
u gettin me hyped boi
@_adorabubble
@_adorabubble Жыл бұрын
until the whole thing with sage's mother, you literally just repeated all my own theories back to me, which was comforting lmao. i also liked your second theory, as i was struggling fitting eggman into the story but this was a great way to fit him in. my only question is how does knuckles and the master emerald affect the story? great video! ^^
@davidclaxton3674
@davidclaxton3674 Жыл бұрын
Will come back after I finish Shadow of the Colossus.
@chaomix
@chaomix Жыл бұрын
YES I CONVINCED SOMEONE TO PLAY IT LETS GOOOO
@reneejump4939
@reneejump4939 Жыл бұрын
This is a very cool theory
@plausibruh
@plausibruh Жыл бұрын
All the titans(?) getting revealed in gameplay really take a page out of shadow of the colossus. Really surprising how much inspiration they got out of it out of anything they could have took from
@rank0011
@rank0011 Жыл бұрын
This was dope
@ballystarr89
@ballystarr89 Жыл бұрын
Knowing this, it makes me want to play even more now. I want to be like "Yeaa let's eff everything up!"
@greenlightning6803
@greenlightning6803 Жыл бұрын
Dig the new hair
@sparkplusultra9289
@sparkplusultra9289 Жыл бұрын
I believe this tells the story of pandora’s box and references Greek mythology stories
@EdgyRoseBoi
@EdgyRoseBoi Жыл бұрын
Dang, this is actually a really good theory! Now I’m even more curious how the story is gonna go! I just hope Sega shows more of the game soon! We don’t want them hiding nearly everything AGAIN like they did with Forces!
@kylecrow9152
@kylecrow9152 Жыл бұрын
Called it!!!😎
@thebaldpizzaman6319
@thebaldpizzaman6319 Жыл бұрын
Sonic Frontiers theory: Sonic might be in it
@chaomix
@chaomix Жыл бұрын
I don't believe you
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 Жыл бұрын
7:42 based on a cutscene showing Robotnik I think he's just as clueless as Sonic
@ElecTricalLT1
@ElecTricalLT1 Жыл бұрын
Dude a Sonic Frontiers Theory And The Game Isnt Even Out Damn
@KaiddIra
@KaiddIra Жыл бұрын
The trailer was hype
@jaxoboneill5397
@jaxoboneill5397 Жыл бұрын
Found sonic eyes in SOTC recorded video
@jakeeddiejenkinsjr4774
@jakeeddiejenkinsjr4774 Жыл бұрын
I Would Risk The End Of The World and Universe To Save My Friends.. It Would Be Empty Without Them..
@ashiraecho2039
@ashiraecho2039 Жыл бұрын
Sotc is my favorate game and sonic is my favorate character. What a wonderful combination!
@rd_ctrlr5311
@rd_ctrlr5311 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad we're all on the same wavelength here -- wanting Sage to be a friend
@Sy-Sonic001
@Sy-Sonic001 Жыл бұрын
And that was a theory,A Chaomix Theory!
@kittamitz
@kittamitz Жыл бұрын
i expect an sa2 situation where sonic realizes the harm hes done and teams up with the antagonist (in this game, sage) and undoes it all
@acapeIIIa_callilulelo
@acapeIIIa_callilulelo Жыл бұрын
finally, someone brings up shadow of the colossus
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