Sonic Heroes - IMPLANTgames

[@ReverofEnola]

Um for Team Dark you can press the Team Blast again if you want to cancel the Time Freeze...

[@thepuzzlemaster64]

+Reverof Enola Is that something you find in the manual? Or do you have to tinker around with the controls to find out? Either way it's bad game design to hide somewhat necessary information from a player.

[@kirbyvskirby]

It's not immediatly obvious. I only discovered it because of trigger finger.

[@implantgames]

Pinned.

[@dagoss1]

Reverof Enola omg I'm dying😂 I never knew that either.

[@jaydenabraham6132]

13 years and im learning about this now!!!

[@RadicalSoda]

I love this game, but you're absolutely right when it comes to the wonky control bugs and weird collision. As someone who's played 1000+ hours of this game, the occasional bit of bullshit can really make me mad. I was also pretty angry when I learned the PS2 & PC special stages are glitched up the ass, and it turned out running without boosting is the fastest way to go. I think the games strongest points are the Stage themes and Music. (Also, only now have I learned from the comments section that Team Dark can manually start time again, holy shit)

[@implantgames]

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who didn't know about unfreezing time! Enjoyed your video as well, cheers!

[@ksysinf]

seems like virtually NOBODY knew about this. and I gave this game to everyone in the school at the time

[@babybar5999]

shut up soda pop

[@micchen8147]

RadicalSoda l

[@m3nmin]

At least you can fix pc! PS2 tho....

[@poop-kh7ir]

See, this is why you are one of my favorite Sonic KZbinrs. You give solid criticisms with good support and are entertaining in general. You're very unbiased towards 3D Sonic, which also makes you a more credible reviewer. Keep doing what you're doing, because it's great.

[@implantgames]

Thanks mate :)

[@poop-kh7ir]

No problem.

[@optimusprime2933]

Rick Sanchez could not resist reading that in a rick voice

[@mep6302]

In this case he doesn't. He exagerrated in some parts

[@BigSmoke-xh5hi]

@@mep6302 how?

[@LSMark]

Ahh Sonic Heroes I hate to admit it but this is my favourite game of all time

[@MegaReedX]

LS Mark I enjoy this game quite a bit your not alone

[@suchintriguingthoughts7246]

It’s fun but flawed but I do feel the fun outweighs the flaws

[@someguy1892]

This was my first 3d sonic and I loved it. It's so nice just to go fast and run through countless levels. No mechs or treasure hunting. It's great.

[@StrangeDad]

Oh hi mark!

[@robloxisthebest5588]

It's an OG

[@Koppens7]

Fun fact: The VA for Tails is the games sound directors 6 year old (at the time) son. Which is baffling that anyone gave them the green light to do so.

[@implantgames]

That is really bizarre haha.

[@jaydenabraham6132]

Another fun fact. Did you know some of the voice over cast were related 🤔

[@FloppyDisk893]

He does sound like a good fit for Tails, so I could see the approval, it is cheaper then paying a professional voice actor

[@MGSDude01]

Wait so Jun Senoue’s son is the Japanese voice actor for Tails in this game?

[@GANONdork123]

It was the son of one of the other Voice Actors (I think it was Vector's), his sister also played Charmy. They were hired because it was cheap labor. Why pay for professional voice actors when one of your existing VAs has 2 kids he wants to have in the game?

[@Kuzamer]

How to enjoy this game: Every way that doesn't involve the term "PlayStation 2".

[@YoshiLightStar]

Monkey D. "Straw Hat" Luffy when I played it on ps2 I really didn't notice bugs but that's me

[@Woodnsus]

Same. Even though some stages made me regret being alive, when I finally finished the game I realized how much I enjoyed it. In fact, it's been years since I've sold my Playstation 2 but I still have my copy of Sonic Heroes. It's the one game that started my journey with my Playstaion 2. I've promised myself to keep it forever.

[@Davfluent]

Kostas Ioannidis that's sooo cool

[@Woodnsus]

thanks :)

[@mikeorange7910]

Oohhhh is that why I grew up thinking it was glitchy?

[@corny5920]

Sonic Heroes is probably the most nostalgic game in the Sonic series in my opinion or any game. It was the earliest game I can think of in the series that I played. And the song "Sonic Heroes" brings me back to 2004 and the main menu music too.

[@DreamOfTheRebel]

Just a few nitpicks: gold turtles are easily destroyed with the tornado jump to turn them upside down. The 3 switches can easily be pressed with flying formation leaving behind one character at a time until only Tails remains and is not as tricky as with Power formation, and lastly you can simply homing attack to flowers to start flying after you get to level 3, or more importantly, to blow torches with team Chaotix.

[@implantgames]

You can blow out torches with the level 3 homing attack?

[@DreamOfTheRebel]

Yes! I just tried it to make sure. The level 3 homing attack has the same effects as the tornado jump, which is why it also allows you to disarm robots from their shields.

[@implantgames]

That's amazing man, thank you!

[@taco2567]

One time on the PS2 level. I moved the camera down with team Dark.. and I died.

[@TheJadeFist]

I died in Rail Canyon, respawned at the start of the level, I instantly died again as if a kill plane had moved.

[@therealseanw.stewart2071]

Good to hear from you again. It's been a while. Welcome back! I always loved Sonic Heroes as a kid. But I'm not gonna let nostalgia fog my vision and tell you it's _perfect._ It clearly isn't. There's so many things wrong with the physics and level design that, it almost makes me think that the game is rushed, or incomplete? I can recount so many bullshit moments from my experiences playing the game too. Still, there's no denying the bright tone and cheesy charm, that...it's still one of my favorite Sonic games. The soundtrack and creativity of it still puts a smile to my face! The final boss is still one of my all-time favorite Sonic moments too. ...It's still better than Sonic '06!

[@implantgames]

Haha, this video nearly killed me. I'm fairly certain I worked on it every day for 3 weeks. At least 80 hours poured into it! I don't think I articulated this as well as I wanted to in the review but I actually like the levels. It's the controls I think are really borked. Had this used the same engine as the Adventure titles it might have worked out a lot better. As for the game, I hated it when it came out but after finally properly playing it and beating it twice... my hate has subsided. Your comments sum it up nicely, love the art direction, love the cheese, and the finally boss didn't make me want to throw my controller :D

[@mep6302]

There are some things wrong. Not "so many" so stop exaggerating

[@knuxuki1013]

I wonder how much money Team Chaotix has earned since Heroes. If Vector sold the huge gold chain around his neck,they can make easy money.

[@lpfan4491]

Izuki 101 well,probably not much,considering the only reason vector was so happy to be in free riders was to pay off some guys and eat dinner for once xD

[@mattstat716]

23:21 Rouge: "It's all over if you fall!" Shadow: "good" i know your edgy and all that but jeez shadow

[@tinywomanhours]

Shadow isn't edgy, that's just a common misconception that started based on his appearance and how SEGA handled him in his spin off game, before Shadow The Hedgehog in 2005, Shadow was a well written character that had an arc and wasn't extremely angsty, but his own spin off ruined his special character so that it could appeal to more mature kids and/or teens. Sonic 06, the game that essentially ruined the reputation of the franchise, fixed Shadow as a character. He wasn't overly edgy there, he had goals, he actually helped Silver see the truth about Mephiles, and played a huge role in the story, more than that of Sonic. After 06 however, Shadow was sadly reduced to the stereotypical edgelord the fans saw him as, leaving the character in ruin and in serious need of a rework to this day.

[@PhayzinOut]

Zero fucks given 😂

[@SuperGamer61499]

While I do think this was a good review, even with all the problems Sonic Heroes has and I will admit are flaws, I still love it tbh. Yeah it may be rough around the edges, and yes, I think that some things could have been refined much better, there's a lot to enjoy with Heroes like you said. The gameplay has a lot of depth to it. The team system really works in this game and the level design accommodates this gameplay type to make it work really well. The music is great. Not one of my favorite soundtracks in the series but it is a memorable one for sure. The story writers did the right thing by simplifying the story for a new audience. While I love Adventure 2's narrative I will admit a lot of it can be a little convoluted and doesn't really fit the core narrative of a Sonic title. Sonic Heroes' narrative on the otherhand does work for how it is. Basic yes but to be fair, so were the classic games right? So it fits right at home in my book. Honestly, I just love this game a lot. Call me nostalgia blinded if you want but I love to pop in this game every once and a while. I feel it's one of the few titles even now that basically asks me to do better in a stage. And in an age where most Sonic games are pretty easy, Heroes is one of the few to still incentivize better play. Now do I think Heroes could have been better? Definitely. The special stages are terrible, sometimes the controls can be wonky and weird, and it can be tiring to replay the whole game with 4 teams as well as getting the chaos emeralds just to unlock the final story. But in general, I would say it's overall a great game. An unpolished one but I think it was going somewhere with it's gameplay style.

[@mep6302]

It's not that umpolished. Look at Sonic 06. Another one who's exaggerating about "bugs" in Sonic Heroes

[@MorgMe_]

Not that this is important but I noticed that when you were using the flying characters you were spamming the fly button, it is possible to hold it and slowly fly to your designated location

[@urmomisurdad5422]

Yes it is.

[@apathy2454]

I miss sonic heroes so much ! It's a very good game ! I love the creative stages, gameplay, and the nice ass music ! Especially "Hang castle" and "mystic mansion". A next generation Sonic Heroes 2 would be amazing.

[@Someguyhere111]

13:30 - Just to note, Shadow was never confirmed dead at the end of SA2. He fell down to Earth and everybody assumed he was dead but uh, as we can see, he wasn't. Izuka wanted to do more with Shadow after SA2 and so left his "death" ambiguous. Since Shadow as popular enough he was able to bring him back and expand his story. If Shadow wasn't well-received, we likely would've never seen him again and SA2 would've just been left as a semi-closed story (the question of why the Eclipse Cannon was built in the first place is only answered in Shadow).

[@ErrorMessage]

Dangerously underrated channel. Love listening to your commentaries over Sonic games!

[@implantgames]

Thanks mate!

[@shooter5769]

My sister is a die hard Sonic fan and to be honest Heroes is her favourite game in the franchise. Glad to see someone making unbiased review of it.

[@implantgames]

Glad to see someone enjoy it :)

[@im_an_alvani]

You have the patience of a cardinal saint to play through this so many times.

[@implantgames]

I actually took a week off of work... and wasted it playing it through this game twice haha :D

[@mep6302]

It's not that patience compared to Shadow the Hedgehog, so stop exaggerating like he does in this video

[@elibonham4388]

@@mep6302 what's your favourite sonic game

[@elibonham4388]

@@mep6302 shadow the hedgehog though each play through is different since your doing different missions and different levels it's better and worse than this game at the same time

[@axel7801]

I feel like Sega should just remake their flops. Like fix the gameplay issues for their games. Sonic Heroes would be much better and I honestly feel that Sonic 06 would benefit from this as well... despite the cringey story

[@rtsa4633]

sonic 06 was great and appauling at the same time. It has my favourite soundtrack from any game. Cool idea executed poorly.

[@lpfan4491]

axel7801 they should also alter the story of the games a bit.like,what the heck is that shadow android-crap? it only exists in heroes for shadow the hedgehog to return to that plotpoint and then its revealed its only there to give false information to shadow and the player.....why? it would have been better if he actually was an android or the android-stuff just never happened to begin with

[@Harrinsain]

despite their mass of technical shortcomings I appreciate the older 3D Sonic's infinitely more than the post 06 games. They just had so much more ambition and they dared to try to make something of the series. New titles are mostly the same thing over and over. (Iizuka has actually said he wants to remake SA1, so hopefully your wish comes true)

[@mbii7667]

Dude, AGAIN, the multiple play styles and plots of Sonic Adventure games are GOOD things. I don't give a damn if reviewers didn't like them.

[@GhenGhost]

I'm a firm believer that sonic heroes is a good example of how 3D sonics should be made. If you made one like it without all the unnecessary moves and much more polish it could make a really good sonic game, unlike modern instalments with their many features. In conclusion Sega should just go back to their roots with much more simple moves, less story and much more polish that can be achieved with modern tech.

[@GhenGhost]

Feel free to say your opinion on my thoughts

[@PumpkinSwag]

I agree, for the most part. I think that the biggest way they could've improved the game was to remove all of the teams except Team Sonic. That way, they would only have one campaign to work on, leaving them with lots of time to polish controls, level design, etc. Team Sonic's campaign has 14 levels with 7 different level themes, which is good enough to make a complete game.

[@ohnoknux4163]

I never realized how creative level themes there were in Sonic Heroes.

[@Ja.abbatta_V]

They wanted it to be like how it was in the Genius games

[@Infocrumbs]

Where had this channel been all my life ? Great stuff.

[@BillDozer]

Way better than your old review of the game. Heroes hasn't held up the best but really what 3D Sonic game has not? I'm pretty sure that the original Xbox version of Heroes was the worst selling version, but I can be COMPLETELY wrong about that. Good review.

[@ShougHell]

It sold so poorly that the platinum hits rerelease is actually worth MORE than the black label version.

[@supersonikun2577]

I absolutely adore this game. It's my 2nd favorite Sonic game. It's not perfect for sure, but for me, the charm, personality, and fun outweighs the bad. Great video as always, mate

[@implantgames]

It's been a while since I've played Heroes at this point, but I do love the bright worlds and lighter tone compared to the other 6th-gen Sonic games. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@genetax2371]

Do a quick jump before attempting the light dash... you'll avoid many broken gamecube controllers

[@implantgames]

Noted, thanks!

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

I used to make my friend play the multiplayer with me on the PS2 version. He didn't like coming over too often

[@DaveMan1K]

28:03 Gold turtles cannot be destroyed when tucked into it's shell. This is explained in a hint bubble found somewhere in the level. EDIT: You can also use the tornado move to flip the turtle and destroy it from the underside.

[@pongldr]

i believe his point was that the turtle never came OUT of the shell.

[@DaveMan1K]

PONGLDR Just added on another solution to my previous comment.

[@pongldr]

ahh ye. i forgot about that function, my bad.

[@implantgames]

Or just Team Blast them. But I still find it odd that turtle doesn't come out of it's shell.

[@DaveMan1K]

implantgames They will if you back away from them.

[@anthomoore2249]

I like sonic hero's because it was one of my first video games. remember the first I beaten the game 100% it made me really happy cus it took me forever. I don't cara what people say about sonic hero's being bad I just love it cus it's a part of my childhood

[@cezarydudkiewicz2990]

Anthony Moore Same!

[@ThatHeatedBread]

I'm glad you're back, next video should be Sonic the Hedgehog (2006), then Unleashed

[@implantgames]

Gotta do Shadow first. I'm slowly working my way to Colors which is what I want to replay :)

[@ThatHeatedBread]

I had a feeling you'd say that, I thought you'd work around Shadow the Hedgehog. Will you do the Rush and Rivals series or just work around them?

[@videogamefan9637]

Great review! I haven't played this game for a while

[@TotallyAwesomeWrestlingTAW]

As much as I adore this game (it's my personal favorite Sonic game of all time and my 3rd favorite game period), your criticisms of the game are both valid and accurate, although I didn't agree with all of them. And I absolutely love your review style. It's fair, and focuses on both the positives and negatives equally, regardless of how you personally feel about the game.

[@implantgames]

Thanks for the comment and the kind words!

[@WalkingAnarchy]

When I clicked on this vid, I don't know what I was expecting your voice to sound like, but it's very nice.

[@mamar1164]

12:23 *O H N O*

[@implantgames]

Haha, that was always such and awkward delivery in SA2.

[@implantgames]

Sonic Adventure 1*

[@MoonaraydeSystem]

Interesting video! We don't own the game, but we're definitely going to watch gameplay of the game later. Really like the soundtrack, and really like how colorful the game is. Looking forward to checking out more of your videos!

[@paianis]

When I was very young I used to play the PS2 version with my sister. My vague recollection of it is that the level design was annoying and glitchy at times. I was too young to know there was such a thing as 'Gamecube' and 'Xbox' unfortunately.

[@gracismart]

Such a high quality video from a small channel. Subscribed :)

[@implantgames]

Welcome, thanks!

[@DeadlyGamingLV]

I think you hit the nail on the head on this game. I just recently bought this game to get closer to completing my Sonic collection. Sadly I didn't enjoy it the way I enjoyed Adventure, Colors, Generations and definitely Sonic Mania which I put up there with Sonic CD, Sonic 1, 2, 3 and Knuckles and the Advance series. If you haven't played Mania yet then I highly recommend it. Thank you for another awesome review and happy to see another video from you Kris.

[@implantgames]

Thanks man! There is definitely something about Adventure 2, Heroes, and Shadow that appeal to a new generation of Sonic fans that didn't seem to click with 90's Sonic fans. Finally beating it (twice) I can see the appeal and understand why the next generation of fans dig it. But like you, it wasn't until Sonic Colors that I started truly enjoying the series again. Though I wish I hasn't skipped out on the Advance trilogy back in the day. I was missing out!

[@wow123759]

For me this game is fun for it's level diversity.

[@Thomas-te2lg]

30:46 Your supposed to use flight characters when activating multiple switches at the same time. When one switch is activated, one of characters will drop from flight formation until all that remains is the flight character, whom can activate the last switch.

[@Oh-Ben]

The game does a poor job of telling when you to use what formation outside of flying TVs. He didn't go over (he missed it lol) it but the game treats you like and idiot then doesn't tell you what to do later on. Like that turtle he got stuck on, you have to tornado it. HAVE TO. Instead of making audio or visual clues, they put flying TVs and still poorly convey what to do.

[@nobel11]

You're supposed to play a better game. Sonic sucks in 3D, and rail grinding sucks. As does replaying the same levels over and over again.

[@Thomas-te2lg]

Sonic Heroes doesn't suck, 3D Sonic games are mostly good, rail grinding is fun (granted the Sonic games need to emulate rail grinding mechanics of Ratchet & Clank series, but at least Sonic Team has shown improvement) and at least the levels your replay are actually really fun to begin with (besides they change the stages/objective a bit for each team, so they're not exactly the same).

[@ppcb]

''Sonic sucks in 3D'' sonic adventure 1 and 2 , unleashed , generations , colors and forces are great games

[@papermario6856]

@@ppcb forces isnt a good game

[@aricente]

I love this game so much for no real reason. I think it's the aesthetic. Love the map designs

[@implantgames]

The levels are pretty solid all around. Unlike most Sonic games, I felt the second half the game was much better than the first. The jungle levels, haunted levels, and final levels were all fun and enjoyable.

[@mep6302]

I like this game. I agree it can be repetitive, but most problems you mentioned I've never experienced. And sometimes they're forced like when shadow is grinding and then he falls when you had to jump and use the homing attack. But yes, I agree you can sometimes fall thanks to the controls, especially in pinball levels. So, you're just underrating this game but not that much compared to other youtubers.

[@ShougHell]

Honestly, I love the three big Sonic games of the sixth generation, which, to me, are Heroes, Shadow, and Riders, and I really think that they are really underrated, especially Shadow and Riders. While I have heard your opinions on Shadow, I would actually like it if you would make a review of Riders and give your thoughts on the game.

[@RodniDemental]

This game has some serious bullshit happening and yet it's captivatingly addictive..

[@JMDurden]

9:05 I don't know why this amused me, but it amused me.

[@sailorvenusfan6527]

I'll be honest. I hate this game, like every time I try to give this game a chance, it always seems to give me a not fun time. As much as I would love to beat the game, the game just lacks polish and I really question some of the choices this game made. I still will say it's a better game then Shadow The Hedgehog (I'm not sure if you've played that). Also btw not sure if the manual says this but you can cancel Team Dark's time stop by using the team blast button again, too bad the characters in the game never tell you about this. This was a pretty good review, I really enjoyed it!

[@psgaming101craup4]

SailorVenusFan Sounds you played the ps2 version.

[@sailorvenusfan6527]

No I had the Gamecube version.

[@implantgames]

I've been trying to give this game a chance since it came out in 2004. I remember being excited to finally have a Sonic game on the Xbox (my console of choice after the Dreamcast died). I just couldn't stand it haha. After finally forcing myself through it, I can honestly say it isn't so bad. I think you really have to play through it once to get any sort of enjoyment out of it. The clumsy controls really make hard to get into. It lacks the immediate pick-up-and-play characteristics most 6th gen platformers possess.

[@haaxxx9]

You're the very first person that I ever saw disliking this game. But when I played in around 4 years old, then 11 years when I got my copy and a Wii with a GC controller I can say I enjoyed this game. Hell, I even got all 100% on all four teams and did the final story too! But I will say this game did have some problems... The key to unlock the special stage without getting hit, Some of Team Dark stages go hella long (30 minunts to finished Mystic Mansion act 2...), Rail canyon rails are clunky and can easily thrown off of the rail by random chance (But that happens not so often to me), Game characters models are shiny... So shiny... AND YOU CAN STOP CHAOS CONTROL BY PRESSING THE TEAM BUTTON AGAIN? Wow, and I thought I know more about the game. I still like it to this day, but not as much when I was 11... Like a good rating. And I rather play this game again and get all fucking A ranks then Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic 2006 or Boom.

[@shupasopni]

It really is best to play Team Rose first too. Or at least definitely not Dark and probably not Chaotix.

[@Harrinsain]

It's sad to see that Heroes and Colours are really the only 3D Sonic games to take inspiration from the weird pseudo surreal worlds of the classic games. That's probably the most immediately identifiable and appealing thing about sonic games other than the characters. It gives it a sense of identity outside of "cool" and other 3D titles don't live up to how creative these wacky environments are.

[@JCM217]

Kind of sad to hear that it was overall disappointing. With Mania my love for Sonic was sort of reignited. I played through the old 16bit games in preparation, and after Mania I've begun to play the "lesser" titles like the advance series to fill in whatever gaps I had. That said, I don't own heroes, but purchased it at one point used at Gamestop. I played it for an hour or two, didn't mesh with it and took it back. I've always thought maybe I didn't give it a chance, and since I love the adventure series despite the posthumous hate it now receives, I figured I might finally get to it. I guess I'll spend that time on other more worthy games.

[@MegaReedX]

John Miller I'd play it if you get the chance but I wouldn't call it a major priority

[@implantgames]

Sonic Heroes is like Coffee. It's awful at first but you develop a taste for it after a while.

[@cleonumber1]

Sonic Heroes is awesome. Yes it gets repetetive and has glitchy controls but it is fun and has some of the best music, I think.

[@KingTwelveSixteen]

...That switch puzzle you were struggling with. If you had walked straight into it head on with a power character you would have hit every single switch simultaneously with no need to even slow down. They are arranged perfectly in the power formation's...formation shape.

[@kendelkx]

Something cool I haven't seen anyone else say yet, when you're a level 3 flight character you can use thunder shoot to automatically grab rings, it's really convenient.

[@vpn_art_s2022]

What 🙂 i finshed this game and did not know you can do that

[@ChadMorningWood]

Just finally did a full play through of this which is something I never accomplished as a kid. When i was little I couldn't be fucked to actually play those chaotix levels and I'm pretty sure the dark campaign was too hard for me to beat. I think the only two campaigns I actually beat were team sonic and rose. Also the special stages control absolutely horribly when the path starts winding around. This game could've been elevated to another level with more precise controls/smoother game play. I've died way too many times with a power character swinging me off the edge or homing attacks just being bugged in general. Too many deaths in the game felt like they weren't my fault which definitely was the turn off preventing younger me from beating the game.

[@implantgames]

I never beat this game back in the day. In fact, this game made me I give up on Sonic till Generations. This review is a bit old for me now... but I distintly remembering my feelings softening between my first and second play throughs. After recently reviewing SA1 and SA2... I wonder what my experience would be now.

[@ChristianLakhan]

The controls are indeed crappy, but I've seen a few players finish the whole adventure and get A-Rank in all levels nevertheless. And because they figured out how to use the controls to their advantage.

[@somebodyoncerolledme7211]

For all the other flaws with this game, the absolute worst thing about this game has to be the inability to turn off dialogue and the character select and power noises. There is only so many times you can hear Charmy say "I'll take the lead" without losing your mind

[@jdawson7877]

sonic heroes is one of my favorite sonic games i would play it over colors and generations any day

[@maplewings6482]

I want a remake of this game so badly... One where they fix the bugs and update the graphics and some of the egg man boss battles but i enjoyed the challenge this GAMe presented me in my childhood

[@implantgames]

I'm surprised it hasn't been ported/enhanced considering the game engine.

[@nobel11]

There's always the demake: info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Classic_Heroes

[@PumpkinSwag]

Love your video, as always. I kinda wish that they only had Team Sonic as the playable characters. Not for the usual reasons other people do, i.e. I don't hate the other 9 characters, but because if they had only focused on Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles' campaign they would have had a lot more time to polish their 14 levels, as well as fix the controls and glitches. 14 levels along with the interesting team mechanic would've been enough for a complete game. Not to mention there wouldn't be character battles anymore. I was curious, though: Why didn't you make this review a part of your "Is It Underrated?" series? It has a mixed reception, so it feels like it would fit in that series.

[@implantgames]

I think if it only had Team Sonic I would feel more inclined to go after the A-Ranks. As is, ugh. I feel Sonic Colors got it right in this regard. One three hour adventure, and then lots of extra stuff for those that want to perfect their skills or need more challenge.

[@implantgames]

I didn't make it an "Underrated" video just to try something different. No real reason :)

[@SuperPlusher94]

This is actually my favorite 3D Sonic game, but yeah, it isn't really the best. Kinda wish they made a remake or sequel to this game so they can fix some of the issues with it, but I absolutely love the Team concept and would like to see it done again.

[@Pai3000]

Amazing vídeo as usual. Piece of advice. When playing a game with a lot of voices, try yo keep volume to a minimum as It clashes with your own voice.

[@Sonic_Gamer501]

This was the first Sonic game I've ever played.

[@CaaaramelApples]

My first sonic game, I really do enjoy this game I wish I could get a port for PS4.. not necessarily even a remaster or anything of the sort, I just wanna play it again

[@implantgames]

SA1 and SA2 got HD ports, Heroes deserves it as well!

[@CaaaramelApples]

implantgames hopefully in the somewhat near future!

[@shoug8387]

This game's my favorite game of all time and I'm a brutal defender of it. To a fault honestly. I feel the need to ramble on about the game's MANY flaws to satiate the people giving me weird looks and make it look like I'm not just blindly loving it just cause it was a central pillar of my childhood rather than just saying "I just think it's fun and cool :)"

[@lamarfll]

For your complaint about Team Dark's team blast forcing you to wait, that's not true, the game doesn't ever tell you this, but if you hit the team blast button again while chaos control is active you can instantly turn it off and let time move.

[@implantgames]

Good to know!

[@Sly88Frye]

I remember enjoying Sonic heroes when I actually played it for the first time in the late 2000s. Yeah I got the game much later than when it was released even though most Sonic games during the 2000 I had actually played not long after they came out. For some reason I ended up waiting really long on Sonic heroes. anyways I do remember enjoying the game when I first played it but it did feel repetitive and I just kind of lost interest. I agree that the game is a bit underwhelming.

[@ybukkotheb.a.dcreator8188]

Sonic Heroes and sonic rush are my favorite sonic games, but i agree most of your points, i had the ps2 version, but i had so mch fun paying this game, if it was fun in ps2 version, imagine in gamecube version =3 anyways, sucess to your channel, you deserve

[@implantgames]

Thank you Sir!

[@ybukkotheb.a.dcreator8188]

no problem

[@Lytane]

Good review and look at this game. I agree with a lot of what you said, it's fun but it is far from polished and it has quite a lot of problems compared to other games of the time. When I first played it I did like it, even though those pitfalls are very annoying but I had no drive to finish the other teams stories. When I went to play Shadows team I was like, oh it's the same levels, that's lame hahaha I can see why people would like the game though but honestly I wouldn't play it much, maybe go through a single teams campaign for some nostalgia but that's it. Also damn!!! That took you a LONG time to go through, 23 hours for the first play through! Just DAMN!!

[@implantgames]

Those 23 hours were tough haha, and I don't think that accounts for the clock resetting when you die and return to a checkpoint either (but I'm not certain). Second play-through was much better but man the learning curve... if it wasn't for this channel I don't think I would have ever bothered finishing the game.

[@fruitlion8]

Wonky or not, I will always enjoy this game.

[@jaymzx2587]

Awesome review man, some of your best work - hands down! I'm absolutely never gonna play this game, it sounded truly horrible having to go through it for so many hours haha! Maybe next vacation use the time to play Sly Racoon 2..?

[@implantgames]

Thank you! After 3 weeks I sure hope so :D I swear the Sly trilogy will get covered before I quit, promise. So many others I want to review as well, Blinx, Crash Twinsanity, Conker's Bad Fur Day, and the Sly games, the backlog is deep!

[@PumpkinSwag]

Can't wait for the Sly reviews. Probably my favorite 3D platforming series.

[@Witty657]

You should review Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg. One of Sonic Team's mostly overlooked games. Though it has flaws, I really think it's more enjoyable than most of their sonic games!

[@IMEEntertainment]

You typed Sonic twice in the description.

[@implantgames]

Your attention to detail never fails to impress :)

[@IMEEntertainment]

Thank you.

[@svetthesaiyan]

You're welcome.

[@ThatHeatedBread]

Svet the Saiyan, lmao

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

Unlike with Adventure 1 and 2, I am not as inclined to defend this game. Especially since I personally feel this was THE game that started the first dark age of Sonic (especially since Shadow the Hedgehog would go on to use Heroes's engine). However, I will give it credit in certain cases. For starters, I do like that the looks of the levels were brought closer to the more colorful and creative levels concepts of the Genesis games. While it was kinda cool that Sega based levels in SA1 and SA2 on actual real life locations, Heroes still made the right decision here never the less. Unfortunately, the actual level structure is a mixed bag. Especially since; outside of Team Rose, the levels last too long in general. The way Metal Sonic returned is quite glorious. He is arguably what saved Heroes's story in the long run. Without him, Heroes's story would have been much more forgettable. The original voice cast; aside from a potential few exceptions, were at their best. It is honestly a shame they were fired in favor of the generally worse 4kids cast. While they understandably needed to replace Deem Bristow for reasons beyond their control, Jon St. John would have eventually called it quits in regards to Big due to him admitting he did not like doing the voice, and Tails would have eventually needed to be voiced by Kate Higgins or Colleen, it was really unnecessary to fire the rest. By the time of Heroes, Sega of America gained enough experience and confidence to alter the mouth flaps to be accurate to the English voice work. I am not a big fan of most of the boss fights, but Metal Overlord was one of the best 3D Super Sonic boss fights and even the theme that plays during that fight rocks. Heck, the soundtrack itself is generally good.

[@OwtDaftUK]

I liked Sonic Heroes but Jak and Daxter and Mario Sunshine's graphics and game-play made this game look dated like it was meant for the Dreamcast.

[@implantgames]

Sadly it really was outclassed by the AAA titles of the day :(

[@kingfirestorm4047]

That was my first sonic game and what make me a fan i love to play it for hour X3

[@phantasm2575]

came across this game at work today for the xbox. Gotta grab it now

[@mep6302]

34:00 Yes. Try spamming the homing attack in the PC version. The speed character won't die so easily because for some bad programming when porting the game, the animation of hit isn't present in the speed character. He/she only has the fall animation and keeps there (only jumps a little or a lot depending on the attack)

[@Sapphireeyes104]

you're supposed to hold the boost button? I had no idea xD I didn't have much trouble with it, but still

[@implantgames]

In hindsight the mechanic is obvious I guess ;)

[@sinklar7946]

1:19 I know this is a nitpick, but please explain to me exactly how the Gerald Robotnik/Maria backstory is convoluted? I see this criticism consistently with SA2 reviews and I never understand why people find the plot of SA2 to be in any way complicated, it's actually very easy to understand. Go ahead, it would make my fucking day.

[@Thomas-te2lg]

Because apparently anything more complicated than "Bowser stole the princess, go save her" is too complicated for a platformer game. I laugh everytime someone says Sonic Adventure 2's plot is too complicated, the story is easy to understand.

[@Davfluent]

Thomas Ruth I don't even know the story of SA2 because I've never played it. I've played SA1 but never played SA2 other than a demo, but I want to change that in the near future

[@implantgames]

In my Sonic Adventure 2 review I break down the plot and conclude it really isn't complicated. I think it's more the awkward way the story is unfolded that makes it more difficult to follow than it should be.

[@stigen749]

Okay, since I'm speedrunnig this game I know quite a loot bout thus game, and usually I get quite angry at rewives like this, but holy cow, this rewive where acutely pretty good, GG mate :)

[@implantgames]

Glad you enjoyed the video, and I'm glad you're not angry ;)

[@ColdSkull]

Thank you for the great review! Can someone tell me what is that interesting game shown at 35:26? Looks fun, but I haven't even seen the character before, so I have no idea how to even start searching for it.

[@implantgames]

Glad you enjoyed it! That game is called Scaler.

[@ColdSkull]

@@implantgames Thank you! I'm gonna go and grab that game ASAP. It feels like I've already cleared most of the 3D platformers there are, thus it was so nice to find something new finally. :)

[@ThePreciseClimber]

This review expresses my feelings on Sonic Heroes *perfectly*. I will say that after SA2 the first 3D Sonic I considered *trurly* good was Sonic Unleashed (the X360 version, not the Wii one).

[@mbii7667]

How are you not invested in Rogue or Shadow as characters? She's hot and and he had the best backstory of any character in the series.

[@joshstarr6400]

Did you ever get all A-ranks? It's very tedious, but I did it. You are rewarded with Hard Mode.It's like a Sonic survival game.

[@implantgames]

I admire your persistence :)

[@jerryalexis576]

Shadow did not die, it is explained in STH, after 8 minutes of the final boss Eggman will say he is the original, but maybe the one used in Heroes *MAY* be an android.

[@implantgames]

Oh man you are going to love the Shadow review ;)

[@jerryalexis576]

implantgames I already Saw it, man you really know how to do Reviews 🖒. Also the fact that you prooved that the game isn't really that bad. It's one of the Sonic games I most like, in my opinion.

[@implantgames]

Right on :)

[@ThekidSpot]

It's still my shit and isn't a bad game it does have it problems One of them being the controls now I've always played this on gamecube and even still the controls sometimes seems to want to work on its own time. Along with the collision as you said. Now I wouldn't say this is the start of the downfall of Sonic. It was to me at least the last good one before the downfall. Edit: while most of those issues you faced I never faced them but it is true most of my death if from wonky controls and fall off the stage but the issues you've had I can honestly see those kind of things happening in this game but I still love it

[@babybar5999]

i honestly liked this game more than the sonic adventure series

[@EnderElectrics]

This review is very strange to me. Basically none of the problems you mentioned from 25:05 to 36:52 were once I noticed while playing the game a few weeks ago. I can't help but feel you seem to be a bit biased?

[@urmomisurdad5422]

This is prob my fav sonic game, and my 1st 3d sonic game. Wish they made a sequle.

[@ZeroStako]

I appreciate this in-depth review, it was very fair and enjoyable, but you murdered almost every single genre when talking about the OST. It's an amazing ost, but you did not come even close to any of the proper genres used.

[@implantgames]

Sorry mate :(

[@SolidSnake684]

Along with Jet Grind Radio, this is one of those games I really, really want to love, but the game frustrates me too much to make it so.

[@SianaGearz]

I didn't find Jet Set Radio (i'm over in Europe) particularly frustrating.

[@fisherdotogg]

Wait whoa I've never actually seen the XBOX version before. Why do the HUD and...really all UI elements look so bad in that version?

[@Pogal]

I thought triangle jump was when you glided up with all three characters of the team in a triangle formation not wall jumping.

[@slashingkatie7872]

This game was fine for me but I hate being forced to play the game four times to complete it. Getting the Emeralds is a pain in the ass and Chaotix missions are so tedious. Also I was lucky enough to play the GameCube version. I heard horror stories about how badly the PS2 version performed.

[@ThundagaT2]

Ayy this video was published on my birthday. I like this game a lot. Its not my favorite but i still like it. And i had the ps2 version which everyone agrees is the worst version lol. I certainly enjoyed this game a hell of a lot more than Adventure 1 and 2 despite those games having better controls

[@SianaGearz]

I got the PC version in 2005 or so. Not sure whether i already had the GeForce 6600 back then or still the 5200, the performance was... OK. Played with a vaguely PS2-style USB gamepad, store-brand but excellent quality. But i absolutely HATED the game. It was much too much of a slog for me. I know now there are faster ways but i couldn't figure them out, and failing 40 minutes into the level with no lives left was grating. Not sure whether i should revisit it, can't really get myself to. The game stayed on my hard drive all this time, of course i had to rip out copy protection, but it's the same install i performed back 13 years ago, although it's not the same hard drive any longer, in fact it was moved probably 6 times by now. The box/disc is somewhere in storage too.

[@aBDKstan]

I enjoy the game for the most part. I think the level design, music and aesthetics are all fantastic. But the game is just so janky, I’d say about 50% of my deaths weren’t even my fault. If the game was just polished more it could’ve been great

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

Do you think you will ever review sonic mania

[@implantgames]

Someday.

[@mbii7667]

Holy shit, the stories are of the Sonic Adventure games are not cofusing or obtuse... and much better than the usual "Eggman wants to take over the world" fare

[@JimmyDThing]

Are you really referring to the Sonic Adventure games positively?

[@PumpkinSwag]

JimmyDThing No, he's saying the Adventure games were well-received by critics and fans. He likes the first Adventure but not the second one.

[@jumponearth1673]

Does Sonic Heroes horrible reception come from the fact that most people played the PS2 version of the game? I hope this game gets released on steam since every Sonic 4 release that year they released an Adventure title that same year for those current gen consoles? This video is posted on my birthday...not really surprised.

[@implantgames]

I always assumed most people played the GameCube version since that seems to be the version everyone reviews.

[@shifshappens1701]

implantgames isnt it the best version