Sonic & Knuckles Collection - Complete Soundtrack (GM Soundtrack) (SC-88Pro)

[@zebulan1485]

Nice work! Inb4 it turns out that the soundtrack was actually composed on the obscure SC-88Pro&Knuckles, and you end up having to go record the whole thing again.

[@datCjboi]

underrated comment

[@Mizu2023]

SC-88Pro&Knuckles 😂😂😂

[@ICUP321]

Finally, Sonic & Knuckles Collection PC OST the way my kid self remembered it sounding

[@stuff31]

Through all these people's efforts, they were able to make some of the truly worst midi songs ever into renditions that rival even the original MegaDrive release. Thank you to all involved, I love these songs.

[@Victini7472]

fr tho these actually go HARD

[@shalpp]

They're not even bad midi songs tho like I don't get where the hate for these come from Is it the default sound set that's just a slightly scaled back version of the sc55? Is it the compositions not being 100% accurate but not mm2wood levels of bad? I grew up with these versions first and when I think bad midis I think some of the crap submissions in vgmusic, not these

[@GamingGardevoir]

@@shalpp compared to the Genesis renditions, they sound rather empty/incomplete and somewhat buggy. A perfect example is the missing notes of hydrocity act 1, and the single-note tremolo on the data select (vs going up and down a note)

[@Victini7472]

@@shalpp YOU MENTIONED MM2WOOD LETS GOOOOOOO

[@shalpp]

@@GamingGardevoir again that's nothing that completely ruins these like people have been reacting

[@natetwooi991]

Favorite rendition here is for sure both Death Egg Zones. That guitar sample was born to be used there.

[@gnewhall4116]

These sound amazing, the people who worked on this did a very good job!

[@g_ato3337]

This sounds soo good with the right synth

[@anthixious]

This channel gets better to visit with every single release I see on here, please continue onward

[@bigpots9142]

Holy crap the slap bass in marble garden sounds SO much more cleaner than the SC-55 version.

[@lilmattere]

honestly these drums are so satisfying tbh

[@WickerBasket9]

This sounds absolute fire! 🔥 Also, that flourish at 1:08:52 wasn't in the final game due to an error, if I'm right.

[@6sdeimos]

youre rignt, its still in the prototype

[@NUKELEDGE]

The flourish is not part of the prototype, it's an additional phrase that Mastered Realm added in his prototype remasters. The ASM for the song does not have any unused data.

[@WickerBasket9]

@@NUKELEDGE Huh, that's interesting! Thanks for the clarification!

[@Wockes]

@@WickerBasket9 Don't listen to them, you were right the first time. Sonic & Knuckles Collection restores it to how it was supposed to sound.

[@WickerBasket9]

@@Wockes Ahh, I knew it! To be honest, the flourish fits in so well.

[@starman2517]

mushroom hill act 1 beta song sounds so good lol this is great

[@CjROCKS]

these sound amazing!

[@mr.pappy2601]

Dude awesome remaster, You really nailed flying battery act 2, It sounds like a knuckles chaotic remix with that remastered quality!

[@midi_feline]

People seriously still think that Church of Kondo is one person, and that they made these MIDIs 🙄

[@mr.pappy2601]

*Sighs* brother if I didn't already know that then how am I subscribed to @chilliusvgm? I mean c'mon he & DayPeeCone killed that Sonic CD Quartz Quadrant Past remastered track!

[@polar-star64]

Thank god Blue Spheres is still an absolute bop

[@Alpha125]

This is beautiful

[@NeonSonOfXenon]

Finally! Thank y'all so much for this. This is the soundtrack I grew up with on PC back in the day

[@samuelmoehring3783]

Wow, file select makes so much more sense now.

[@Victini7472]

imma just put my thoughts here, will edit this as i go along 1:01: this kinda sounds like a song from undertale or deltarune lmao (specifically the trumpets) 5:05 THAT'S THE KLONOA FLUTE 5:19 this part still sounds HEAVENLY

[@EmilyCorradino]

I'd love to hear the final versions of Carnival night, ice cap and launch base on this machine. I know it's not that easy, but I wonder if someone could make midi versions of those 6 songs in the style of the s&k collection midis.

[@Canide]

but they're already midis?

[@EmilyCorradino]

@@Canide I'm referring to the Genesis/Megadrive versions of the songs.

[@Canide]

@@EmilyCorradino oh

[@GamingGardevoir]

@@EmilyCorradino I’ve got midis for them, I’d just need to figure out what to replace the custom samples with in a general drumkit

[@jasontheredfox]

Man this sounds great

[@Sanicfan9192]

I’ve been coming back to this for years now (100th comment)

[@AltimaNEO]

It never dawned on me how many samples Sonic 3s music was using, No wonder it sounded so good.

[@darkapocalyptica]

I think the SC-88Pro has my favorite version of flying battery zone 2

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

11:17 Lovin' that violin!

[@shalpp]

And since I can't keep everything in one comment or thread the drums on carnival night act 1 are the proper ones lmao

[@JaimePenaAlvarez]

Wonderful!!

[@TristanLackey]

Wow, these songs are bearable now lol

[@nathanielhermanson6987]

The steel drums are sick

[@ImExistent405]

perfection midi conversion

[@JayJayHuman]

This slaps hard wtf, my headphones literally got hot from listening

[@slainredd4339]

Would love for someone to mod these tracks into origins

[@FLYNN_TAGGART]

Why not Sonic 3 AIR?

[@JaimePenaAlvarez]

I'm delighted with this version. I'm listening to it over and over. My son loves it too. May I ask, is there something similar for Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic CD, Sonic Mania? I know the research was to determine the original instruments for the PC version, but having it also for other Sonic titles would be astonishing.

[@AbnerGamer1]

There are Mobile Java (J2ME) ports of 1 & 2 (wich use midi format to store audio) but some bits of the music are cut (If I remember it right). It could actually be possible to change the instruments to make it CD quality. Actually, now that I've mentioned it, i want to try doing it.

[@Epsilonsama]

I wonder did USP had access to the original demo tracks when they made the GM reditions or did they use a un-dumped prototype for it?

[@TorutheRedFox]

probably a mix of both

[@Akrenix]

I'm leaning towards both, more specifically demo tapes for the non-prototype tracks and a pre-1103 prototype for the prototype tracks

[@chironthefloof2920]

i think they only had access to recordings of the music, not the actual music data used

[@thunderpizza]

This is amazing, Thank you. Btw, i saw this article about sin and punishment for the n64. Would you or the guys that do these restorations ever consider restoring the sin and punishment ost for the n64? if you guys have a patreon, id love to donate for that and other projects. -From shmuplations interview with the composer: "-I would say your work on Sin and Punishment for the N64 was another high point in your career. Its fierce, dense fusion sound makes you totally forget the limitations of the N64 hardware. Yamanaka: That was PCM, accomplished thanks to a certain very talented programmer at Treasure. -Streamed PCM was rare on the N64. It sounds great, you really don’t think you’re listening to an N64 game. Does that mean, by the way, you’ve got the higher quality, uncompressed music data lying around somewhere? Yamanaka: Well, the only instrument I used to compose that music was the Roland SC-88 Pro. Since it turned out Treasure was able to do PCM streaming, it probably would have been nice if I’d worked in a more elaborate recording environment, but balancing a lot of sounds is actually very difficult for me. I use the expression “wall of sound” to refer to my own music style; I’m not very good at using space like some other composers are."

[@yetimhere133]

Triangly likes it ♥

[@garufis_dx]

Listening to this while making some orange juice 🍊👍

[@josephrose4061]

I wish there was a Soundfont file for SC-88Pro.

[@Konic_and_Snuckles]

Any plans to redo the SC-88VL recording with the MIDI fixes used here (which I assume is using Snooping One's "GM Music Fix" mod on GameBanana)? The SC-88 may be more accurate than the SC-88Pro, historically speaking, but that other recording cannot be considered the definitive version until the missing notes are restored.

[@tj_m00r3]

51:47 the only song worth jamming to.

[@someonecalledrichardthehuman]

Can someone please make a Sonic 3 AIR mod where the music is replaced with this one pleeeaaaaaase

[@shalpp]

Slightly unrelated but does sc-va line up with the sc88 pro far as the extra gs patches go? I have a really dumb idea lol

[@shalpp]

@@ChurchofKondoh good to know I just wanted to know if I could use it to make sc-88 compatible midis that I could get some kind soul to record (maybe that kind soul is me if I ever decide to spring for an sc88pro lmao)

[@shalpp]

Also since I'm some stupid chud who uses FL Studio for midis, do you know if there's any way to get midi cc to export properly with the midis themselves? I know GS patch switching just does not happen unless I open the midis in Anvil and set them in there

[@bruhmomento2985]

Yes it does, SC-VA has the entire patch library for all 4 synths presented

[@bruhmomento2985]

@@ChurchofKondoh can you please go into details/provide sources that go into details about this? Because i have literally never before heard about something like this about it

[@TorutheRedFox]

they're not 100% accurate as it models an SC8820, which, while having SC55, SC88, etc. maps, they're not 100% accurate to the original modules

[@pokemongamer1587]

Sounds like restored Sonic 3 music!

[@randyghgu]

Where's the actual midi versions?

[@GamingGardevoir]

I know it’s not accurate, but I wonder how these would sound if played through a JV-1080

[@muizzsiddique]

Some of these instruments are a quite faint/quiet.

[@Shadowslash1]

Question: Do you by chance know of a good conversion tool so I play this Soundtrack on iTunes? Or will converting it more mess up the audio quality?

[@Gordonjamesheneryproductions]

Why did you do the prototype versions instead of the final release versions

[@lynxez3302]

Because this is the version that was used in Sonic & Knuckles PC Collection.

[@CheddarVG]

Sky Sanctuary sounds better than the last time.

[@Akrenix]

DAMN CALM DOWN

[@jacknedry3925]

Ice Cap Zone is wrong

[@genyakozlov1316]

Some, like Angel Island, I still prefer with regular Midi instruments over these intended ones. Either way. both are better than the Genesis versions. Soundtracks like Spinball's take advantage of the Genesis synths and would sound off without them, while Sonic 3 doesn't in my opinion, so it sounds way better with more diverse range of instruments.

[@luginess0]

Question: Do you guys have the equipment and stuff to tackle the New Super Mario Bros. DS soundtrack?

[@Leonard_Wolf_2056]

The sawtooth & the bottle blow instrument are really painful to listen to.

[@KYBlueJedi]

Are you going to do this same remaster featuring the original genesis tracks?(Carnival night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base zones?) The prototype music tracks are still an OUCH to my ears IMO. I still love that someone is restoring retro video game music though.

[@gallagherneylon6966]

ｐｒｏｍｏｓｍ 💪

[@c0zm0s_]

SONIC CD BROOOOOOOO

[@mariowario5945]

This is not how the artist intended the original music on the genesis to sound, this is just a bunch of shoddily recreated midis for pc, not the source pre conversion midis

[@mariowario5945]

@@ChurchofKondoh I was really disappointed with flying battery the most, as I would suspect the lead part of the song in the beginning would be an overdriven guitar while the main part of the song would be lead with an electric guitar or some kind

[@rynobehnke8289]

As the original artist weren't sound technician would I be surprised if they had any idea how it will sound on the MegaDrive. So the originals them self were already interpretations from Sega technical sound team. At least I know this was how Sonic 1 and 2's sounds were made Demo Tracks of real instruments being converted by programmers into chip tune.

[@Epsilonsama]

We believe that both GM and FM tracks were done using demo tapes available at SEGA for this game. It might explain the lack of any of the Team Jackson produced tracks as SEGA does not have those demo tapes.