'Sonic Mania' Let's Play - Part 3: "Smoovies Has An Emotional Breakdown"

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@StarMechV
@StarMechV 7 жыл бұрын
Old Man Yells at Cloud.mp4
@shadowspider9
@shadowspider9 7 жыл бұрын
I love how Miwa sounds like a squeaky toy when she laugh's.
@mechashadow
@mechashadow 7 жыл бұрын
The difference between Ted and Smoovies, Ted can't justify his reasons on disliking the game many times. Smoovies actually is able to and pretty clearly at that. That's why he gets less hate. Smoovies is just a bit OCD that's all.
@GameSharks
@GameSharks 7 жыл бұрын
Ted isn't terribly good at expressing himself. He can say things I 100% agree with and I still end up confused because of how he approaches it. It's not that he can't justify it though, he has internal reasoning, he just struggles with externalizing it
@iggnifyre6333
@iggnifyre6333 7 жыл бұрын
^ This
@afternoonkittea
@afternoonkittea 7 жыл бұрын
Which if I remember correctly Ted himself has openly mentioned on Twitter in the past.
@TeamDusk215
@TeamDusk215 7 жыл бұрын
He should really REALLY work on that. I mean, it doesn't justify some of the flak some people give him but still, it'd definitely help.
@dlausactor6373
@dlausactor6373 7 жыл бұрын
Well, Smoovies can justify it... I don't know about CLEARLY, though... ;)
@DaisyPhoxtrot
@DaisyPhoxtrot 7 жыл бұрын
0:52 Now this is the main difference between Ted and Smoovies. Whereas Ted says things like "if I have to deal with all of you liking this game, you have to deal with me hating it", Smoovies understands and respects that other people have differing opinions and admits that he could just be cynical. That's why, I think, Smoovies won't get as much hate as Ted.
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 5 жыл бұрын
he's also just more charismatic. like when both just say a bs reason for hating a game, ted comes off as a whiny bitch who doesnt know what he's talking about, where as smoovies has the charisma to make sound like hes a stand up comedian ripping into it like we're all on board with the joke.
@slippy495
@slippy495 7 жыл бұрын
Speed isn't a reward in Sonic, fluidity is. There are segments in Sonic where you are specifically meant to 'go fast' and there are also parts where you can slow down for more precise platforming. However if you are good at the levels, you can combine the two and beat the level faster. Also I get the argument that 'having to learn the levels isn't good design' but I think the game makes up for it in most cases because getting hit isn't as fatal as it is in Mario, as long as you have rings and/or a shield. There is a lot more room for error in Sonic is basically what I'm trying to say.
@SegaSky
@SegaSky 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Walsh I'd say speed and fluidity go hand in hand, because part of the appeal in classic Sonic is trying to figure the quickest way to beat the level. The best (non-glitch) speedruns usually look incredibly smooth - slower sections included - because of it.
@Stitchlips2000
@Stitchlips2000 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, speed just kinda comes naturally with playing the game, that's why the ring system exists. It's a safety net to incentivise you to experiment and get better at the game and get better at maintain speed and looks fly as fuck!
@SmooviesTV
@SmooviesTV 7 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be fun when I find out I'm actually autistic, guys. It's gonna be great. I can't wait to get diagnosed with autism. Calling my therapist now. Setting up an appointment. Oh shit, guys. It's happening. Cross your fingers. I hope I'm autistic so you guys can be right about that too.
@LatterDayPup
@LatterDayPup 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Aymond you shouldn’t get down on yourself like that because I bunch of morons got triggered.
@LOLManArchives
@LOLManArchives 7 жыл бұрын
"Cause he landed." This is it. This is what caused the beginning... *of the end.*
@Sonicfan4467
@Sonicfan4467 7 жыл бұрын
The entire Stardust Speedway portion of the video is the funniest FTCR stuff I think you've done since, give or take, the 06 playthrough and the Patrol Car- Popcorn Shop stuff.
@WigglyMcWiggly
@WigglyMcWiggly 7 жыл бұрын
I live for Miwa's laugh
@coolcomment8
@coolcomment8 7 жыл бұрын
Can we all just agree that Bee Movie: The Movie: The Game is the best 2.5D Sonic game?
@SplashV_
@SplashV_ 7 жыл бұрын
coolcomment8 yes
@GameSharks
@GameSharks 7 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty fundamental fact of life that doing something faster is more difficult. The only way to make going fast something anybody can do is to have the automated sequences that everyone complains about
@coreyferreyra
@coreyferreyra 7 жыл бұрын
11:10 Boy, am I glad she's in there, and we're out here, and that she's the sheriff, and that okay I'll stop now.
@rockyandyipper
@rockyandyipper Жыл бұрын
"Now all I've gotta know is who's the caveman?!?"
@ultimateshadeofwar
@ultimateshadeofwar 7 жыл бұрын
15:30 Ummm, i think you are misunderstanding what "Speed is a reward" means(Or at less how i use it), getting Sonic to be fast isn't hard in any Sonic game, but it should be the challenge, it's keeping this speed going and getting more speed. To do this, you need to have obstacles, and stuff like that, that tries to stop you from getting more speed. And how you raise above this challenges, maybe the way you go to get around it slows you down, so you need a different tactic, maybe it allows you to keep the same speed, maybe it allows you to go faster. Or maybe the slow way allows you to find a path that if you arrive to this area from another path, you can take it, you avoid the challenge, and keep the speed going. It's like racing games(Not Mario Kart that it's more luck then skills), you can't just push the accelerator button constantly, you need to find the right amount of time, to do other techniques that slows you down, but if done right, with the correct timing, all of this allows you to go faster.
@3rdmonocle789
@3rdmonocle789 7 жыл бұрын
This part has become my favourite part so far; hearing Smoovies break down over his distain for sonic mania was hilarious. Oh, and Miwa was great too
@JPthugnificent
@JPthugnificent 7 жыл бұрын
At this point, whether Smoovies' rage is genuine or troll-y, I just think it's hilarious how over the top he gets. As for his arguments, I agree with some points, but then I also think these problems are either nitpicky af or are fundamental 'problems' that all classic sonic games face so I don't get why he gets so mad at this game specifically but eh. (At least he can back his hate with proper reasons. Not to hate on Ted, but his arguments were confusing at best, whiney at worst.)
@SabreOfficial
@SabreOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
speed is a reward = you can do the levels more efficiently (faster) once you learn them that's really it ... that said though, there are still points in the classic games where you can enjoy how fast sonic goes without having to know the level layout, but for the most part the satisfaction comes from being able to play the levels more fluently and maintaining momentum once you're familiar with how the level is laid out. "going fast" is mainly used as an incentive (and encourages repeated playthroughs), hence speed being a reward. so yeah, you can still go fast in sonic games without knowing em back and forth. it's just that when people talk about speed being a reward in sonic games, they're usually talking about being able to play the levels more efficiently once you learn em. hope that made at least some sense, also this playthru is really fuckin funny so far LOVE U GUYS
@cin2110
@cin2110 7 жыл бұрын
Zero Man people are still trying to understand that that what bugs me the most
@GameSharks
@GameSharks 7 жыл бұрын
well no, the argument is that you're rewarded for playing well with speed, when really it's the reverse. You use speed to play well. Often times the fastest routes involve actually slowing down for a second
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 7 жыл бұрын
But you don't advertise with the reward of the game! That's... That's... That is like when Portal would advertise itself as baking-simulator! Or Mario would be advertised as: "Get a kiss on the nose. And Cake." I mean, it being a reward MAKES SENCE. But Sega is just terrible at times, down to outright stupid. And in what way is it rewarding to run into a convinient placed unforseeable SOMETHING? Go fast-Run in Spikes! Go fast-Bottomless Pit! Go fast-Enemy-Bullet! Go fast-Water! 5...4...3... (Also, why add a mechanic thats sole purpose is TO TAKE THE REWARD AWAY, EVEN WHEN YOU DO EVERYTHING RIGHT? Water is so slow...) 2... (And then wait for a bubble...) 1... (Not that it ever comes in time...) Go fast-SPRING! Now you are all the way back! Go fast-Camera can't keep up with you (But given, that is actually ok) For a Reward-Mechanic, SEGA does a bad Job. Oh, and in evry sonicgame MADE by Sonic-Team this days, they hand Speed out like candy, if you want it or not, with endless amounts of boosters... And given their history with Level-Design, Speed is less a reward then a threat, a harzard you are trying to AVOID half the time... ... (I need to do something about my habbit to '...' ...)
@GameSharks
@GameSharks 7 жыл бұрын
what you're describing is called "hazards" Mario can jump into pits if you're bad at it. Or spikes. Or anything. The challenge of the game is using the core mechanics well. Sonic is explicitly designed to mitigate the problems that come from going fast with the ring system. All you need is one, and you drop liek twenty when you get hit, so you can make a lot of mistakes, running into spikes isn't a big deal
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 7 жыл бұрын
In nearly every place you can jump and at worst you just look like a idiot, but it usually doesn't harms you. It is a proper used gameplaymechanic. Sonic got it, too. And that is all it is, a mechanic. Speed, on the other hand, is more harmfull then helpfull. The Hazard that hurts you would be easyly avoidable if you wouldn't speed trough the level, makeing speed part of the problem, but not of the solution. The only point you NEED speed is usually to get trough loops. Jumping can be used to avoid most other hazards you enconter, speed usually amplifies the danger. Speed makes, with our given Leveldesign (usually Sonic-Team), a poor reward. And that you need a Mechanic to make it less harmfull to speed along makes it a even worse reward... The frustration of getting stoped by something is usually worse then the high from haveing the speed in the first place. Also, you only drop a many rings as you have, and the 'single ring' saveguard happens to jump away in your hitstun... Of course, you can try to get it, but for the short time between hitstun and the disaperance of the ring, you are in a area with a hazard. Ring lays on Spikes, Enemy fires again, ectra... While Speed, as a gameplaymechanic, works, It makes (in combination with the leveldesign) just for a terrible reward, and as that was it marketed. While i can accept speed as a essencial part of sonics design, the fixation with it being the fun part of it and the part you are supposed to be happy about is simply frustrating, since the game does little to make you happy about being fast.
@lezickthefoxp5541
@lezickthefoxp5541 7 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to Egoraptor's Sequelitis Smoovies edition. Smoovies: Sonic mania sucks (no it doesn't) cause of conveyance, but the intro stage in Megaman X, F ING GENIUS!!
@gundambailey9268
@gundambailey9268 7 жыл бұрын
Here lies Smoovies sanity. RIP
@CrazyFoo501
@CrazyFoo501 7 жыл бұрын
So the moral of the story is everybody should emotionally traumatize Smoovies for our amusement
@CommandoKnight200
@CommandoKnight200 2 жыл бұрын
13:25 "Hey dad what's my reward for mowing the lawn?" "Not getting hit." "Aw thanks!" 🤣🤣🤣
@frets3516
@frets3516 7 жыл бұрын
I just assumed that because Metal sonic passes behind the structures of the level while flying, he isn't on the same plane as Sonic. When he lands, he IS on the same plane.
@nezumi6554
@nezumi6554 7 жыл бұрын
This comment isn't directed at Smoovies, but more so anyone who gets really uptight about a video game's design, but also my defenses for why speed still is an award. I think that speed CAN be achieved by a first-time player, but when they mess up, the ring system acts as a net to keep them doing okay. When they get better at the game, they don't need the ring system because at that point they can master the controls and level design. I won't say something like Mario isn't good either, I just find gaining the ability to grasp the tight controls and blast through levels that previously gave me trouble is more fun and satisfying to me. I don't think it has to be like an argument about politics or religion, where everyone is yelling at each other violently about what they believe. If you don't want to play a game where you memorize level design to pass through levels at blistering speeds, THEN DON'T! Nobody is forcing you to play it! Also there are sections in Sonic games where they allow the player to go fast in a safe environment, like the tubes in Chemical Plant, the rings/loops (not sure what their actual name is) in Death Egg Zone, running down the building in Speed Highway, the rocket in Metal Harbor, the giant S-tube in Green Hill Zone that launches you into the air, etc.
@Time_Fire199
@Time_Fire199 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen's mental episode here is why I love the boost gameplay. Even if I suck ass at the games, I can still go really fast.
@thephantomist7199
@thephantomist7199 7 жыл бұрын
Can you feel life, moving through your mind? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@savingthrows719
@savingthrows719 Жыл бұрын
I wish I was an animator. So I could bring new life to every time Smoovies and David flirt.
@LiveHedgehog
@LiveHedgehog 7 жыл бұрын
Miwa's laugh is so cute.
@landon29
@landon29 7 жыл бұрын
Ok Ted. You are forgiven.
@KiraKibosh
@KiraKibosh 7 жыл бұрын
I hope I never get as upset about anything as Smoovies does about a video game.
@zapzambino6185
@zapzambino6185 7 жыл бұрын
Smoovies do you even like Classic Sonic? Like... all the complaints are stuff in the other games. Why is it good there? I don’t get it
@slippy495
@slippy495 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even think he likes sonic, lol. which is ironic because his original name was SONIC movies.
@miraclewillow1
@miraclewillow1 6 жыл бұрын
Steven likes these games (Obviously, except Mania) and how they play. What he hates is how people use the "speed is a reward" card when they talk about how a Sonic game should play. And I agree with him.
@MykonosFan
@MykonosFan 6 жыл бұрын
no plat = NO BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #trophyhunter
@TheCrazyEven
@TheCrazyEven 7 жыл бұрын
There were many loud noises from this LP part. I am on a high level of scare.
@LucidPhoton
@LucidPhoton 3 жыл бұрын
2 things: 1.Smoovies' criticisms of this game feel a lot more objective and at least have SOME point to them. As nitpicky as "color theory" was last part it does make sense. It's better than Ted going "EWW those guys from Sonic the Fighters, So pandering!" 2. I do love the drop dash. It's spoiled me to the point where when I go back to the older games I miss the fact I don't have it. Despite all the attention to detail that's in this game, It's weird that they couldn't have drop dash, instashield and peel out all at once. Sonic 3 AIR does it so idk. This game is still cool.
@rockyandyipper
@rockyandyipper Ай бұрын
This video is such a time capsule. We have the original mania metal fight and mania-hating smoovies! It's a blast to the past!
@loziclec.1295
@loziclec.1295 7 жыл бұрын
Smoovies brought up a good point with the whole "teach the player and then test them" thing. I didn't have the problem he did in Press Garden, but I timed over on Metal Sonic because I didn't know you could spin dash the Silver Sonics from Sonic 2 on the Game Gear. I thought when they jumped, you had to jump and bop them into Metal Sonic.
@SmooviesTV
@SmooviesTV 7 жыл бұрын
Lozicle C. EXACTLY. And I ended up beating him that way because I didn't know what else to do.
@JomaXZ
@JomaXZ 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I made some popcorn before I watched this part. Also I think Smoovies is a "tad" too nitpicky about his problems with the game. Most of that stuff you just learn to accept when you play games. But that's just my two cents to this dumpsterfire of a comment section.
@qtippz
@qtippz 6 жыл бұрын
A "tad"? Really? He was complaining about the fucking colors of the level designs because his weird ass can't see, Now in this video he's mad because you goes fast in it. WTF? If that's the case racing games wouldn't be a thing. It's just a game. His reasoning's are ridiculous.
@slippy495
@slippy495 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with Steven on the Metal Sonic boss being inconsistent. I think they should have fixed it by letting you hit Metal Sonic while you were racing him, but have it not do any damage until the final phase, so you at least know you can kill him eventually.
@GameSharks
@GameSharks 7 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be simpler to just give Metal Sonic an energy field in the first phase
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 7 жыл бұрын
Or even better, let him be a part of the background, let him clip behind stuff you clip before. Problem solved, he is not on your plane of existence! Literaly!
@Streek471
@Streek471 7 жыл бұрын
This may be the hardest I’ve laughed at anything Smoovies ever did or said, and I watched that Sonic 06 LP
@Putuk22
@Putuk22 7 жыл бұрын
Smoovies kinda makes me happy, 'cuz sometimes I worry about being too cynical, but now I feel great!
@munchjrgames942
@munchjrgames942 6 жыл бұрын
I think when the first Silva Sownik from Sonik 2 on da Gaym Geer appears, it's hitbox should be null, and he should speed directly into the wall, and rebound into Metal Sonic. Also, Steven's Breakdown at the end of the Metal Sonic Boss is rendered completely null thanks to the update.
@Wolfbark_plays
@Wolfbark_plays 7 жыл бұрын
I love miwa
@Shade1602
@Shade1602 7 жыл бұрын
I need to animate this But which section of the breakdown is the one to do
@Sparkstorm1000
@Sparkstorm1000 7 жыл бұрын
All of it...
@mintystingmoon4787
@mintystingmoon4787 7 жыл бұрын
Just animate Smoovies as a fish next to a megaphone
@VentWilsn
@VentWilsn 6 жыл бұрын
just do both times he mentions his dad
@papershadow
@papershadow 6 жыл бұрын
I vote for the Dad example and the rant on Grounded Metal Sonic.
@Kutan
@Kutan 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. Also, thanks, I needed this laugh for a while now.
@LJPhil
@LJPhil 7 жыл бұрын
A smart gamer: "Man, Sonic Mania is such a great game." Smoovie: *Autistic screeching*
@SmooviesTV
@SmooviesTV 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know something about me that I don't? I'm autistic? Or maybe you're saying that people who shout about video games are autistic? Don't you think that insult, which was aimed at me, actually shrapeneled and insulted an entire group of people?
@DaveReturnsagain1
@DaveReturnsagain1 7 жыл бұрын
Don't take it personally. The internet and most people are clueless about Autism, and as an insult to people they just go "ERP A DERP You're Autistic." I'm mildly autistic myself and for the most part completely 'normal'. It is just idiots consider it is cool to insult people through something they don't fully understand. But people see stuff like Family Guy where you have a woman with very serve autism in a wheelchair and simply screaming. Then they think all autistic people are like that, despite it being a huge spectrum and even some of the greatest minds ever lived were autistic. It is sad but it is typical internet ignorance.
@SmooviesTV
@SmooviesTV 7 жыл бұрын
DaveReturnsagain1 To be fair, this is the first attack I've ever had to deal with. I'll try to ignore future ones.
@DaveReturnsagain1
@DaveReturnsagain1 7 жыл бұрын
Ah fair enough I see a lot of Autistic comments online meant to insult people. So I kind of got used to it.
@SmooviesTV
@SmooviesTV 7 жыл бұрын
DaveReturnsagain1 Kudos to you being able to ignore them, but it's still not fair for you to have to numb yourself to that kind of behavior.
@CwapPlatinum
@CwapPlatinum 7 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Smoovie's 3 hour negative review of Sonic Mania
@soulgold9724
@soulgold9724 7 жыл бұрын
I really do enjoy the contrast that Smoovies' commentary brings.
@Bolty128
@Bolty128 7 жыл бұрын
God, the salt in this video is glorious.
@miraclewillow1
@miraclewillow1 6 жыл бұрын
Why do I agree with everything Steven says? Like, "don't let my reward be debt with a fuck up" or how Metal Sonic (this version of his Mania fight) is so inconsistent, despite how cool it may be.
@miraclewillow1
@miraclewillow1 2 жыл бұрын
okay to correct my 3 years ago ass, I don't agree with *everything* cus I do think it's a good fun game, but stuff like the color theory and the rough introductions of new gameplay elements I do agree with
@miraclewillow1
@miraclewillow1 Жыл бұрын
and the whole "speed is a reward for getting good at the game" that's just speedrunning logic in general, but Sonic's primary gimmick *is* speed as a spectacle AND reward for mastering oh and as I type this i forgot gareth says it's a gimmick too so
@nintenboyadvance9343
@nintenboyadvance9343 7 жыл бұрын
While Mania is a great game, it needs 90-100% new zones, the option to switch moves in save slots or multiple moves mapped ( insta-sheild, drop dash, etc.), hopefully the nostalgia is worked in more subtle through a few gimmicks or set pieces, tee lopes for music obviously. If I missed something, feel free to add
@thephantomist7199
@thephantomist7199 7 жыл бұрын
More characters?
@Sjono
@Sjono 7 жыл бұрын
Sonic Team should be ashamed that a few freelancers showed them up at producing a new Sonic game than the decades long veterans behind the franchise
@Sjono
@Sjono 4 жыл бұрын
E Peen They can still hire better talent and management. Nintendo has had new blood work and maintain Super Mario games yet Sega doesn’t seem to care as much
@Sjono
@Sjono 4 жыл бұрын
E Peen Never too late to start showing effort. Crash and Spyro have been dormant for nearly a decade yet they’ve been rejuvenated thanks to dedicated devs who gave a damn. Sonic is a bigger deal for Sega than either Crash or Spyro combined are for Activision so it’s even more sad to see the franchise be in the stage that it’s in
@DearMetallia
@DearMetallia 5 жыл бұрын
Finally watching it and this is my big favorite LP it's settled
@bobbert33
@bobbert33 7 жыл бұрын
Smoovies is becoming Frank Grimes from The Simpsons. Smoovies: This game has mechanic issues but that's okay because I'M SONIC MANIA!
@DylanDude
@DylanDude 7 жыл бұрын
Before the comments section descends into arguments over what Steven said, let me help distract you with some more pleasant and less controversial topics: Abortion and the death penalty are legal in parts of the US, Alexander is Macedonian, Forces retconned Generations, and las Islas Malvinas son Argentina.
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 7 жыл бұрын
Forces didn't really retconned Generations, alternate universes have been a thing since Rush
@calamaty2007
@calamaty2007 7 жыл бұрын
Death penalty being legal is a pleasant and less controversial topic?
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 7 жыл бұрын
TeoTeoTeo if it was a retcon then they couldn't mention that Generations happened because a retcon means that previous stuff did NOT happened also, I love that your response was to make an even dumber retcon that opens even bigger plotholes & makes even less sense
@GameSharks
@GameSharks 7 жыл бұрын
the fact that dimensions and the future have been interchangeable in Sonic for a while now leads me to believe it's a translation error
@DylanDude
@DylanDude 7 жыл бұрын
TeoTeoTeo I think my country (The United States) is more to blame for that, considering that dictatorship was US-backed.
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 7 жыл бұрын
Speed isn't a reward but a mechanic, as Mario is Jumpman, whoes mechanic is Jumping. When Speed where a reward, all the sonic-adds were like when, how do i say it... Portal would be sold as a cake-makeing simulator? Yeah, that comparison works.
@djinnhoopa7599
@djinnhoopa7599 7 жыл бұрын
Random Minion No it doesn't speed is a reward for being good at the game, how is that hard for people to understand? Thats been the entire point of Sonic from the VERY FUCKING BEGINING
@LJB91
@LJB91 6 жыл бұрын
They actually listened to some complaints, they're adding the ability to use the old moves in the normal save files soon
@gavinerickson9392
@gavinerickson9392 7 жыл бұрын
I blame Smoovies for Sonic Forces.
@ammarmahmud2662
@ammarmahmud2662 7 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that i can relate to smoovies relationship with his dad on a personal level?
@Phantom-T
@Phantom-T 7 жыл бұрын
Now the thing about Sonic 06 in Generations, technically speaking, that level shouldn't be there because at the end of 06 Sonic and Elise blew out Solaris, restarting the events of the game, except now 99.99% of 06 never happened and Silver's future is saved. Canonically speaking, all that happened is that Sonic happened to run through Soleanna during their festival, stopped to see the sights, and moved on :p
@yagottobelievensomething2683
@yagottobelievensomething2683 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Smoovies
@matthewcorm
@matthewcorm 4 жыл бұрын
you know I don't always agree with Smoovies, but this time I agree 500%. then again I haven't been very fond of 2D sonic games in general. 😅
@JD3Gamer
@JD3Gamer 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Steven’s arguments would be more salient if this game was actually hard. But it’s easy as hell so...
@emilevnp
@emilevnp 7 жыл бұрын
Smoovies=SammyClassicSonicFan
@linkenski
@linkenski 3 жыл бұрын
I cried laughing on this episode.
@emmetstanevich2121
@emmetstanevich2121 7 жыл бұрын
Damn Smoovies, you want some fries with that salt?
@sailorvenusfan6527
@sailorvenusfan6527 7 жыл бұрын
So wait if the Metal Sonics in the tubes are from CD and Chaotix, then wheres the one from Triple Trouble?
@SegaSky
@SegaSky 7 жыл бұрын
SailorVenusFan Game Gear? Haha no.
@TheFlameSlayer
@TheFlameSlayer 7 жыл бұрын
i don't mind not being able to hit metal till you reach the top. but i can understand where smoovies is coming from in a way. you can see it later with one of the bosses later on. maybe if they had made metals sprite go in front and behind the pathway and/or have him look like hes getting closer and further away i could see that working. but once you know you can't hit him you kind of know there more to the fight at that point. With the press garden act 2 ice part. if you look before the first checkpoint unless you were to break straight out of the ice block you are shown you can break ice blocks and ice spikes and such with the ice block mechanic. i had no problems after this part knowing you can break certain ice blocks both vertically and horizontally with the ice mechanic Other things like rewarding the player to go fast. you do get rewarded with more points beating the stage. if the game was always built around speed though the design would not work more so with the older games. so they have to put traps and platforms to kind of slow the pace a little bit and to add hazards and danger to a stage. otherwise they would have to make stages much longer to work with it and considering green hill act 1 in the first game took 30 seconds which is the most basic go fast level the game would be beaten in such a quick time if they had done that for the game. or make the levels longer which would take space, take time and such
@GoldStorm07
@GoldStorm07 7 жыл бұрын
The point about not teaching level mechanics fluidly enough stands, that's the same thing that makes the Carnival Night barrel annoying. In general with this game tho, I just don't feel like the game punishes you for speed any more than Sonic 2 or 3 does, and certainly less than Sonic 1. I cannot think of many points in the game that fuck me over for going fast. As a final point, speed as a reward has been less of a hard rule with Sonic as time goes on, ever since the Spindash let you go fast whenever you want and Sonic's other tricks let you maintain flow. The Drop Dash even moreso. So...yeah, you can go fast whenever you want, but if you have poor reaction speed it can be troublesome. Typically the size of the screen gives you an acceptable margin of error for those reactions so it's all good.
@biskitvixxn
@biskitvixxn 7 жыл бұрын
Steven, are you alright my dude?
@malictory
@malictory 7 жыл бұрын
Smoovies was wonderfulxD
@deshawnwilliams503
@deshawnwilliams503 7 жыл бұрын
I hate smoovies now
@SmooviesTV
@SmooviesTV 7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@TimelostFlare
@TimelostFlare 6 жыл бұрын
Christ, Smoovies.
@andrewashford291
@andrewashford291 6 жыл бұрын
_Oh, Smoovies. I'm sorry I wronged you._
@Time_Fire199
@Time_Fire199 5 жыл бұрын
Smoovies has a screaming fit calling Mania a terrible game and criticizing every mechanic, and the comments section STILL criticizes Ted more. SMH.
@SkyanUltra
@SkyanUltra 6 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@waffletoast215
@waffletoast215 7 жыл бұрын
Smoovies might be a little upset. But just a little, nothing major or anything.
@ThatGuy-tc6uv
@ThatGuy-tc6uv 7 жыл бұрын
To be fair Smoovies, there's a clear distinction between the sections where you run up the tower (where you can't hit him) and the final section (where you can). The fact that Metal Sonic isn't on the same plane in the initial sections could have been telegraphed better, but there's a section in the game that's far worse. Also, I can't believe none of you scrubs mentioned the fact the boss fight (by taking place in SS Present) seems to be a callback to the ending cutscene of Sonic CD(which portrayed the race happening there).
@AhkoRC
@AhkoRC 7 жыл бұрын
This is great.
@Veolynn13
@Veolynn13 Жыл бұрын
Where was Metal Sonic on January 6th, 2021?
@ZorroLocoStudios
@ZorroLocoStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen, if it's any consolation, I only like half of the Metal Sonic boss.
@FranciscoFJM
@FranciscoFJM 7 жыл бұрын
About the Metal sonic fight: Isn´t Metal in another "Plane" at the start of the fight? and that´s the reason why you can´t hit him? if this game was in 3d it would be more noticiable i guess
@simplyhenry99
@simplyhenry99 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Stephen, what's your favorite Sonic game? Can be more than one
@SonicTheJackrabbit
@SonicTheJackrabbit 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, Smoovies is going full autism and this is coming from an aspie. His complaints about this game don't make a hint of sense what so ever. I've never had a problem with most of the stuff he brings up.
@SammyDrz
@SammyDrz 6 жыл бұрын
I don't really like Press Garden either tbh. Very platform heavy, can have you waiting around if you miss some timing on the blocks, feels a bit too much like a Sonic CD level but not as height heavy. Either way I don't get it personally. I think Studiopolis is better.
@alphax-shroom6781
@alphax-shroom6781 2 жыл бұрын
This is so ridiculous. Sonics thing is being fast so it can't be a reward? Then explain DMC, dantes thing is fighting strong and being stylish, you can't just mash buttons and get an SSS, you have to learn and work at that and get that ranks. The main thing about a character can be a reward, because achieving that trait is satisfying.
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 7 жыл бұрын
how nice of you to invite SammyClassicSonicFan to this let's play but yeah the Metal Sonic fight is sorta inconsistent with the rules of when you can whack him
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 7 жыл бұрын
as for the Speed = reward thing, the reward is not just going fast since all of Sonic's moves just give you the go fast, the actual reward is being able to keep that speed for the entire level & yeah there's no good reason for the 3 movements (Peel out, Drop Dash & Insta Shield) to not be mapped to separate buttons, the Genesis controllers had 3 buttons. limiting them to move replacements in the no-save file is pretty dumb & i hope they fix that in mania 2
@RicardoThePlayer
@RicardoThePlayer 6 жыл бұрын
YES!
@blokheadsreviews679
@blokheadsreviews679 7 жыл бұрын
*Insert generic Ted/Pikmin 2 reference here*
@Faapu
@Faapu 7 жыл бұрын
Mistuh Smoovies is right, there's a bunch of things in this game I would have probably never figured out if I hadn't watched a bunch of random videos
@Ryukin631
@Ryukin631 7 жыл бұрын
Yes
@MDKGunner
@MDKGunner 7 жыл бұрын
Gonna get a lot of hate for this but the Drop Dash is just meh i never bothered with it if i needed to use it then hello Spin Dash also Oil Ocean and Hydrocity can get stuffed in a tube and tossed out into space without a Chaos Emerald the game as a whole however isn't too bad shame we never got Death Egg Zone, Doomsday Zone or Hyper Sonic
@Caossoul
@Caossoul 7 жыл бұрын
Poor smovies
@cin2110
@cin2110 7 жыл бұрын
King J yeah poor him trying to make a good game(just because it’s a sonic game) look bad then failing miserably then going crazy I think he deserves it
@jeremyknight9980
@jeremyknight9980 7 жыл бұрын
I used to like Metal Sonic. but after a while I realized how blank of a character he is. he's the least interesting of Sonic's rivals. He was interesting in Sonic Heroes. but that's the only game were he actually has a personality.
@SonicmaniaVideos
@SonicmaniaVideos 7 жыл бұрын
No it isn't...it's the only game where he can speak.
@ultimateshadeofwar
@ultimateshadeofwar 7 жыл бұрын
17:53 Best boss in the game fight me.
@FlameHisWorld
@FlameHisWorld 7 жыл бұрын
gotta go fast
@cloudycanine9682
@cloudycanine9682 7 жыл бұрын
Press Garden Act 2 is the best looking level in the game but I have to say mechanically I do find it one of the worst. Has a lot of annoyingly placed badniks and the ice gimmick can be obnoxious sometimes.
@hheecckk526
@hheecckk526 7 жыл бұрын
look i love mania. i hate press garden as a whole and dont like the metal sonic boss fight.
@Leon14344_
@Leon14344_ 7 жыл бұрын
This wasn't a fun part :(
@breck8668
@breck8668 6 жыл бұрын
ding dong your opinion is wrong
@ProdKeion.T
@ProdKeion.T 7 жыл бұрын
I pretty f*cking sure that if there was Sonic game where sonic just runs really fast in every level without in level of difficulty or any challenging obstacles to stop sonic's speed, this screaming grown ass man who is screaming about a video game would hate, bitch and moan about a game like that too. I like the channel don't get me wrong but Smoovies you can just like you know...go away for a while. Like a long time...maybe forever?
@ProdKeion.T
@ProdKeion.T 4 жыл бұрын
@E Peen Yeah don't remind me...
@fnsiii7975
@fnsiii7975 7 жыл бұрын
Yes
@JD3Gamer
@JD3Gamer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
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