How Much Of Sonic Adventure 2 Can You Beat Without The Analog Stick?

[@psychoDon525]

Cut to 99% of the comments saying "Okay but now do Dark Story," when Traitor literally said "I'm never doing anything like this ever again"

[@TARDISES]

Plus logically the challenge would fail *instantly.* Iron Gate is an Eggman stage, and Tails demonstrated why that would be an instant failure. Plus... let's be real here, it's not worth it because Rouge has *all* the truly annoying hunting stages. Egg Quarters with that beetle. Security Hall with the time limit. Mad Space with the reversed hints, gravity gimmick and, most relevantly, *it's mostly empty space*

[@amethysttvgl1601]

​@TARDISES I personally would love to see how he'd overcome the challenges in the more open and gimmicky stages. On the other hand though I completely understand why he wouldn't want to touch mad space without moving with a ten foot pole 😂.

[@usrnmntavlibl2666]

Yeah but dark story.

[@MarioMastar]

@@amethysttvgl1601 Probably at least worth theory crafting what's possible. Not spending the months proving it but just maybe seeing if there's a spot where you get softlocked. Shadow doesn't have the bounce bracelet so thus no super bounce, and IIRC, the gravity cylinders in Final Chase are a softlock, but the other stages are probably doable (though not so sure about Sky rail due to the layout of the stage, but hey, Shadow DOES have Ancient light). As for Rouge's stages, I'm sure like Aquatic mine, there's probably a layout that lets her grab everything, but IIRC, one of Security Hall's emeralds are always in a safe so that would make that pretty much impossible even with unlimited time, and of course, one of Rouge's stages is Route 280, which is harder than route 101 and has open sections you can fall out so it'd be impossible anyway. But if just Dry lagoon (debatably impossible but I don't know all the emerald layouts), Egg Quarters (probably as easy as Death Chamber since it IS easier than Death Chamber due to the stage being a giant ring), and MAYBE Mad Space if you're patient enough. Alas, I don't think Flying Dog would be possible since he never lowers himself and Rouge can't get high enough to hit him, and I'm not sure Egg Golem is either (theoretically he is but I think he'll destroy the platform you're standing on before you can expose the bombs in him).

[@Reddreambigfart]

Do it anyway

[@QweaklyForgotten]

A challenge run by an expert speedrunner? Oh wise master, show me your ways. "So I pressed buttons at random and eventually I got lucky." Such Insight! I need to subscribe for more.

[@pubcle]

@etonasama When you look at the glitch hunters & such, yeah, it's absurd detail & trial & error.

[@roberthata6732]

I mean, without mashing we wouldn't have the backwards long jump.

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic563]

​@@roberthata6732 Mashing is not just a valid speedrunning technique, but a frequently used one.

[@lpfan4491]

I love how the first Shadow Bossfight is literally just "Sonic wins by doing absolutely nothing".

[@theneoreformationist]

I think you're the fake hedgehog

[@MauIsSilly]

​@@theneoreformationistaround here

[@cradiculous]

Gets bonked by someone standing perfectly still: "I'm the coolest!"

[@Hyndsyte2020]

If my math is right, the 15-second rocket section of Metal Harbor taking 15 hours wasted somewhere in the ballpark of 4320 lives, assuming it takes exactly 15 seconds each attempt and not accounting for loading screens.

[@hiRyan329329]

The not accounting for loading screens probably evens out the deaths that happen from falling before 15sec was up, good math

[@sabinamaria4287]

Also he kinda had to retry the WHOLE level everytime

[@KatotsuSama]

​@@sabinamaria4287I'd bet he has some form of quicksave for a proof of concept run, plus the lives seemed to stay at 98 most of the time.

[@Fade_ToBlack]

@@sabinamaria4287No he didn’t, there’s a checkpoint literally right in front of the rocket bruh, it’s literally IN the video.

[@marioman7315]

Actually the math is wrong. It took him an hour as it says on the meter so it actually took 240 lives. Unless I missed something.

[@bakurasensei]

Arbitrary masochist challenges in old video games is probably my favorite genre of KZbin video

[@woofcensored6055]

Know any others off the top of your head?

[@juste.une.mouche]

Bismuth's 8-hour A button challenge documentary💪💪💪

[@redxomegaa]

​@@woofcensored6055Gamechamp3000

[@riahlexington]

@@woofcensored6055check out gamechamp 3000 her videos are good

[@Sykroid]

​@@woofcensored6055not exactly old games, but Ymfah has my favorite challenge vids

[@sharplosion1]

This video appeared in my recommendeds as "How Much Of Sonic Adventure 2 Can You Beat Without The Anal..."

[@lpfan4491]

Oh boi.

[@mainframe1608]

Same i was so shocked

[@zorthonthedevistaorscott2481]

The fact it says “surprisingly a lot” either fixed the confusion or made it worse

[@PointsofData]

The answer to that specific sentence is either "all of it" or "none of it", depending on the kind of freak you are.

[@KasumiRINA]

Same... Accidental clickbait! xD

[@lks19]

Knuckles' pumpkin hill was basically watching the DVD logo bounce lol.

[@blazingfury057]

This metal harbor part males me feel so validated because I knew it happened as a kid but never heard anyone mention it when talking about this section

[@Traitor1]

Until I started the challenge I had never seen anyone ever had that happen and I've played the game for 6k hours so I'm not surprised no one had mentioned it before! Looking closer at the footage it looks like sonic walks to the left, for some reason clips on the floor and turns. As for why that's the case... beats me! Every time I open the game I feel like there's something new I learn lol

[@kiwirooks7299]

What part?? You didn't provide any context for what specific part you're talking about.

[@Crescentium]

Probably 14:45

[@PointsofData]

​@kiwirooks7299 Probably something in the section of the video marked "Metal Harbor". Likely the part where Traitor is baffled by something that happens, in Metal Harbor.

[@kookerbridge-p1o]

​@@kiwirooks7299 lol their comment was loaded with context, youre just dim.

[@papersonic9941]

I love how narratively speaking, after a whole game of Tails being a complete fuck-up, Sonic relies on him to save the world as he's dying in the capsule and Tails finally does something right by beating Eggman.

[@teethgirlprod]

missile launch in 15 seconds

[@sponge1234ify]

10.

[@RazzleMazzleTazzle]

9

[@Poppipower]

8

[@exar4444]

STOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cantrell2991]

7

[@boogbug8244]

Doing this on a completed file really was a good choice

[@Traitor1]

Yeah... a lot of sonic would have been either much harder or just impossible without the bounce bracelet so I'm really glad I made that decision!

[@frodofragginsgaming]

LOL, that is what I was just thinking. I really respect him for all of this work and creativity. It would have been much more challenging without the upgrades I think, I haven’t finished the video yet. 😂

[@MarioMastar]

@@Traitor1 Funnily, I"m surprised the Magic hands didn't come into play, But MAD MAD props for making the Ancient Light the MVP of the run. Even Magic hands gets more love as I don't think Any player, casual or challenge runner ever used Ancient Light until this one. XD Major Kudos! It does make me that much more curious about Shadow's, but I already know Final Chase is impossible cause the gravity cylinders are softlocks without the control stick.

[@jordandaigle6227]

City Escape is just one of those levels thats perfect for practicing anything you want lol

[@DawnSRC]

This video is honestly incredible, well done Traitor. Not only was the challenge itself really cool but you came up with some really interesting solutions. On top of that, this video has an incredible level of polish, I feel like I'm watching a big time KZbinr! Hope this video gets the success it deserves.

[@Traitor1]

Thank you Dawn I'm really happy with how the video turned out and I appreciate all the help you gave me to get this video out!

[@misterphill1701]

Agree with Dawn, I found Traitor from GDQ hotfix and was just so knowledgeable and helpfull, plus also quite funny at times, one of my favourite speedrunners no question

[@givlupi2686]

KZbin cut off the title at the exact point for it to say "How Much Of Sonic Adventure 2 Can You Beat Without The Anal"

[@Wingsaber]

Can confirm its impossible to beat SA2 without anal

[@ZhclTl]

Great video, loved it. And props to you for using an accurate challenge title instead of "Is It Possible..". Its a nice detail

[@clawcakes2]

30:51 tails chilling in his mech and playing Mobile Game is actually super cute. i love this.

[@Soshiplayz]

Could you unban Analog? He is one of your biggest fans and he didn't like being called a mere stick.

[@Sanzee2000]

This is such a fantastic video, the editing is great but the storytelling was on another level, this did NOT feel like a 50 minute video. Major props to you for sticking with the challenge, some of those stages looked like hell given the constraints Tails always has been and always will be the black sheep of the group :^)

[@Traitor1]

Hell yeah I'm glad you enjoyed the storytelling! It was my first time making a video like this so I had to rewrite it so often and wasn't confident about it at all lmao And thank you the challenge was honestly ridiculously long but I thought it would make for an interesting video so I kept pushing forward!

[@shirothefish9688]

Wait wtf i was here 50 minutes!? Oh gd i thought it said 15 minutes. No wonder why it felt like 30

[@stevemp7]

Traitor, not only am i super happy to see content on your channel, but im stoked that it’s in this format. I love stuff like Smallant and Alpharad. Ever since you were in Alpharad’s 100% SA2B video as a chat guide, the comeback was inevitable

[@Traitor1]

Thank you! I was honestly really anxious posting this video because I feel confident in my editing but I felt like I'm too low energy to be interesting for a video of my own. But the response has been very motivating to say the least! I'm happy you stuck around and also that you enjoyed this latest video! I definitely want to try making more videos with a format/style similar to this in the future (though I'm praying I don't do another year long endeavor for a while lmao)!

[@stevemp7]

@@Traitor1 Haha yes I can imagine this was a quite the taxing project. I think your energy is good for longer formats like these. People who do long videos/challenges with insanely high energy become exhausting to listen to lol

[@Traitor1]

@@stevemp7 Thank you that means a lot to hear you say so! I'll be sure to remember that anytime I feel worried about how I sound when recording voice over! A good confidence booster >:D

[@DavidJCobb]

​​​​@@Traitor1got brought here by the algorithm. i remember you from a GDQ run you did for SA2 hero story medals -- and seeing you in alpha's chat in the VODs. imo the GDQ run was a good watch precisely because the vibe was chill and calm alongside absolute mastery of the game this video's more alpharaddy while still being pretty chill. strikes a nice balance. challenge was monstrously difficult too so good stuff

[@clawcakes2]

@@Traitor1 honestly i'm a huge fan of the low energy. all that "WHAT'S UP GUYS WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER VIDEO LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE" isn't my style LOL

[@brianpso]

What a crazy challenge! I remember when I completed City Escape without the joystick and it was already annoying as fuck, I would NEVER consider going through hell with the whole story lmao I loved some of the solutions you came up with for the Sonic stages, and god damn the Knuckles ones took an amount of dedication I wasn't prepared to see, huge congrats on those. Egg Golem's solution was just genius, I wasn't expecting that at all, but that Final Rush segment omfg, that shit is proof that god rewards our efforts. What an amazing surprise this video was, I had no clue this was being worked on and had a blast watching it! I'll TAS PC and CG in the future if no one manages to complete those in the meantime, I'm confident I can complete PC, but I'll have to analyse CG first to be sure about it.

[@Traitor1]

Thank you Brian! It was absolutely a passion project of mine. My favorite part of speedrunning had always been routing so when I decided on doing a challenge I thought I should do one I know no one else had routed before. It's also the main reason I kept everyone in the dark about the progress of this challenge (no streams or comments about what I was completing or getting stuck on) because I wanted to see what I personally could achieve and if I'm being honest it was a lot more than I ever expected! A little behind-the-scenes secret about Final Rush: Originally when I wrote the script, FR only got to the very beginning segment of the platforming gauntlet. For some reason, months after I thought I was done, I decided I would head back into final rush and I would grind it until I got a more satisfying end. I don't regret that decision one bit hahaha That would be amazing Brian I hope you figure out some ways to pass PC and CG! Something major about moving with Sonic I discovered was that if you jumped and then bounced very quickly after you could consistently get sonic to turn left (I'm not entirely sure why this is). This slight skewing was major in allowing FR to be possible and made much of CG as simple as it was RTA (though simple still means it took hours). In one attempt I was able to use that to get sonic to land on the red block. I'm not sure if that will help you out with CG but I figured that info might lead to something! Best of luck I'll be really excited to see what you come up with!

[@brianpso]

@@Traitor1 Yeah it makes sense now why you kept it a secret, and thank god you came back for FR, that clip alone is already something we know nobody else will ever be able to pull off again lol Yeah I'm aware of the bounce thing, that's a what creates a tasbounce! But in a tasbounce you do that with speed to gain more speed over and over again. We still don't know why it happens, but I hope we figure that out in the future. I'll do my best to complete both stages, but for now the only one I'm confident about it PC, although with the amount of tricks we have I think I can find a way through CG's ending.

[@Eggnog417]

Ngl when I saw you only had 1k subs I was completely SHOCKED, I expected like 100k or smth but no, hope you get there someday, GREAT content. Your suffering has really paid off for this video xD

[@Traitor1]

Thank you, I would be very surprised if I ever got a silver play button but I am glad that's you felt it was a high quality video! I'm glad my suffering paid off in some way lol

[@austineatsapples]

8:16 broo I can’t stop laughing at this! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Magikarpador]

i really appreciate the awareness to not assume your audience is speedrunners and to explain stuff. that was really really neat

[@culditbe123]

Awesome video! The editing was on point and the enthusiasm in your narration was contagious. Can't imagine the amount of effort that went into this. Normally I watch videos this long in a few sittings but you had me hooked start to finish. Well done!

[@brandonp7503]

Jumping around at the speed of sound, got places to go, got to follow my rainbow!

[@Chaparrito]

Bro! HUGE respect! This is amazing work! Watched it 100% and 👍! Hope it goes viral!

[@ghxstroux]

i don't normally watch longer videos and stay super invested in them , but this one ? it had my attention every single second . the editing , the commentary , it's so so interesting :) i used to watch you when you did damageless runs on twitch , i haven't checked in for a while but i genuinely hope you're doing okay !! this was an amazing video man

[@giiegue]

im so glad you still came back to try again even after giving up! i really hope someone out there finds a way to beat the stages you came so close to beating yourself. its always so impressive to me when people are able to find even hypothetical solutions to challenge roadblocks in games.

[@faedragonlucy]

I've been binging SADX/SA2 challenge videos the past couple of weeks and I just found your channel. Love your voice and style of humor, and what really sold me was the use of OSTs from Catherine (my favorite game). You've got yourself a new sub :3

[@BenjaminBroom-n4r]

This was good I am very impressed with the quality despite you lacking a large amount of subscribers

[@Traitor1]

Thank you! I'm glad to hear you feel that way!

[@Hank_Wolfman]

It still wouldn't change the outcome of Crazy Gadget, but I swear that the bit with the spring beetle can be entered upside down instead of right side up, allowing you to just skip it by going along the ceiling. I'm not sure how viable that would be without the control stick, but I'm fairly sure it is possible and that you even get an extra life for doing it.

[@Traitor1]

That was actually the first way I went about it! Since I'm used to the speedrun route which does it upside down I thought it would be easier. What I forgot about was that as soon as you leave the glass tube it sends you onto the extra life. Directly under that extra life? A vertical spring that causes a softlock hahaha. I wish that spring wasn't there it would have made that section a lot more fun!

[@Hank_Wolfman]

@@Traitor1 ah yeah, I forgot about that pesky spring hidden beneath it. The devs clearly placed that there with the sole purpose of trolling you in this challenge 😂 I am seriously impressed by how much can be done with no stick inputs though, you did a great job with this (we'll ignore Tails letting the side down)!

[@Traitor1]

Yeah can't believe the devs planned 25 years ahead just to spite me hahaha. And thank you I was really impressed with the results myself so I was excited to showcase the results to everyone the entire time I was editing the video!

[@healthyminds9279]

This is sick. Gives focus to the little design elements of the levels that nobody really appreciates. I'd love to see someone use TAS to solve the parts you understandably couldn't beat.

[@Traitor1]

Someone is interested in TASing out certain sections like Crazy gadget's end so there might be a video like that in the future!

[@MaskedHeroLucky]

Funny thing is, the way you beat Rouge was the way I consistently did it as a kid. Weirdly enough I can't pull it off quite as easily anymore, might be a quirk with the Steam port.

[@kenpanderz]

Stu Pickles: "ive lost control of my life." Sonic: "same" Tails: "same" Knuckles: "same" Shadow: "same" Eggman: "same" Rouge: "same"

[@RemyJustice97]

Your commitment to the bit in Metal Harbor is admirable enough to earn a sub, my friend

[@Jojo_4_5_6]

That’s about 4320 lives by the end of the 18th hour. as 1 hour is 60 minutes so that’s about 240 lives he spent on the 15 second segment each hour 16:54

[@Rad_Roxxi_Music]

This is probably the single most impressive challenge run I have ever seen. Bravo!

[@RNS_Aurelius]

let's assume it took about 10 seconds to respawn and get back to the platform each attempt making the attempts around 20 - 25 seconds each, given you didnt run out of time each attempt but always seemed to get below 5 seconds remaining. That gives is about 3 attempts every minute and 180 every hour assuming any of this is close to true that would make it 3240 attempts

[@Hennal_]

Another banger video from Traitor I loved how ridiculous the Aquatic Mines solution was, crazy how much effort went into this

[@Traitor1]

Thank you Hennal! Of all the stages Aquatic Mine is probably my favorite because of the sheer amount of lucky coincidences that were ALL NECESSARY. The bare minimum was available to me and I'm happy I was able to capitalize on all of it!

[@Ridgan.]

22:55 ah, the knuckles dvd screensaver strat

[@yutuberocks22]

No way, somebody else finally tried this! I tried doing this a while back as a "Beating the game with DK Bongos" challenge. I didn't get very far but I at least beat City Escape!

[@Mary97574]

this was an insane act of masochism. i'm proud of you.

[@Reconfiles]

The skill and the quality of your content is like someone with 100k, the amount of work you put into this is otherworldly. Insane motivation and determination best sonic channel with 1k subs yet.

[@TheTrueProxy]

Deserves more views and subs. Insane video.

[@TeamUnpro]

this guys the cousin people usually talk about, "my cousin beat this game with a broken joystick". "My cousin beat this boss in 3 seconds", etc

[@PhysicsGamer]

This is a fantastic video! The Adventure games, especially Adventure 2, are considered the crown jewels of the Sonic series for good reason. Would be cool to see some more open-ended coverage of which emblems are or aren't possible under this ruleset, but it's totally understandable if you're burned out on it!

[@Traitor1]

This would be an absurd amount of work to accomplish however it is a good idea, maybe some day long in the future I'll get back to this and try that out!

[@PhysicsGamer]

@@Traitor1 Yeah, it really would - either way I've subscribed and will be looking forward to seeing what you make next!

[@crudberry]

"banned analog stick. reason: stick." i can already tell I'm among kindred spirits here LOL

[@Dryskle]

This video was super fun to watch! Your narration is great, but the quality of the editing and production is just fantastic. Keeping the sound recorded separate from the music so you can hear proper game sound effects while the music is playing smoothly in the background is so good. I particularly loved the overlaid Knuckleses running in every direction at once.

[@Traitor1]

Thank you it means a lot to hear that!

[@cloptopolis]

"Insane" is an understatement 😂. This was great!

[@Traitor1]

Hahaha I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@orealz]

Okay, you got my subscribble. You've needlessly suffered enough.

[@probablynotdanny4384]

A challenge run? Check. Mind melting difficulty? Check. Practiced screen presence? Check. My favorite series? BIG check. Oh yeah. That's a sub from me dawg.

[@Redacted2525]

I actually did the math (although it does have a major flaw for the sake of consistency) during the climb up to the rocket assuming he spent the full 15 seconds per attempt (which I know he didn’t but I don’t have footage of every attempt he made) he would’ve died/retry the level 4320 times

[@fim-43redeye31]

This video absolutely enraptured me. Seriously, you caught me way off guard, but this is great. Real quality work. Poor Tails.

[@goldencheeze]

You my friend are a masochist. And someone who has earned a new sub. Very good video, well edited, well paced, and watching skilled players attempt atrocious challenge runs is always interesting. Also absolutely using that somersault storage tech thing for a casual playthrough just for the hell of it

[@wakuwakusonicpartolcar]

the dedication you need to do something like this is insane. very good video, earned a sub

[@KJM87189]

Criminal this doesnt have more views, great work!

[@MiketheMutant1993]

Sonic Adventure 1 was the first 3D game I ever played, and I'd never seen an analogue stick befire that point so I didn't know what it was for. I tried moving with the d-pad and all it did was make the camera move. So because I had no concept of how 3D games worked at that point I literally just assume you *couldn't* run and just had to spin dash everywhere. I got several levels into the game this way becauae I literally had no idea there was any other option.

[@SGEnjoyer]

that's hilarious and unfortunate in my early early childhood I was used to my gameboy advance (3 or 4 to 6 or 7) but saw my dad using analog sticks on his ps2 and immediately figured it out when I got a gamecube

[@ecciq]

Some liars in this comment section damn

[@MiketheMutant1993]

@@ecciq I'm genuinely not lying. I legit thought that SA1 was a puzzle game.

[@_Enigmatic_]

This is hilarious and extremely well made, I admire your dedication and knowledge of this game

[@user-fj4ih2uk9o]

Finally youtube recommends a small creator that deserves more exposure. No offense to the other recommended channels lol

[@Dreamcasttime]

... So, now I'll need to make something along those lines with Knuckles's and Sonic's story in SA1. (Maybe Gamma's story can also be possible, but only with New Adventure +)

[@MarioMastar]

Not sure about Gamma as he has no way to move. Knucles and Sonic can move with their action buttons, but the others I don't think can. Ironically Big is theoretically possible in 3 of his stages IF he's facing the right way (and the ice is broken pre-emptively in Ice cap), but Hot Shelter requires him to travel to the location where Froggy is making that impossible.

[@Dreamcasttime]

@@MarioMastar Gamma has his Jet Booster that allows him to sometimes travel forwards in the right circumstances. And, as you rightfully said, Amy, Tails and Big (If we exclude miracles happening) cannot progress normally

[@dropinota]

What a crazy challenge to do to yourself. Props to you being able to complete most of the game like that.

[@spyrotikus]

This is an amazing video. I love video game challenge run videos, but a lot are too easy and uninteresting. I love watching the aftermath of people going crazy pulling games apart just to beat them with using an input

[@36shadowboy]

It’s actually crazy you did this on your own.things like the a button challenge are usually a community effort

[@_thejuicebox]

hey bud, congrats on the video release a great work. hope you've been well!

[@Traitor1]

Yo Juice! Thank you I'm happy with how it came out and I've been well hope you have been as well!

[@DonYagamoth]

This was a fantastic watch, excellent humour, fascinating challenge, and great presentation :)

[@Flame2307]

Banger video, absolutely nuts that you can do this much. Good job!

[@amythelime]

God I love this game. I could also feel the mental strain you were most definitely feeling LMAO Thank you for your sacrifice

[@anthonyhelmer2790]

Subbed because the launch sequence permanently damaged you. Can’t wait to see what else ya got xD

[@SkipbyChata]

Thought I was having a stroke when I kept hearing BA music Great video btw

[@Traitor1]

Thank you, I’m glad you liked the video. I’m so used to people asking where the music is from that I’m honestly surprised that people are recognizing it in this video hahaha

[@DaftBanana]

So happy you finished this! Definitely worth all the time and effort!!

[@bogbert7019]

this is the most accurate way to play a Sonic game because Sonic is just doing whatever the hell he wants and you're just along for the ride

[@yvendous]

42:10 "saved on slot 0" I'm not against saved states at all! But your script so far was about how long things took, being relieved getting to checkpoints, and retrying with those, so I'm a little disappointed you weren't upfront with this tid bit. It's ok though, do what you gotta do!

[@Traitor1]

You are absolutely right, I should have been clear about them! In the original script I brought it up in the middle of the intro but was told to remove it because, when talking about how I would use them, the restrictions I had and the purpose behind them it ended up adding 2ish minutes. I still think it was the right idea to remove it since it did not affect the difficulty or results of the challenge but I should have spent the time rerecording some segment of the voice over and adding it in later. Also to be clear: despite hitting save state in Crazy Gadget there, I never loaded the savestate. But I remember in that moment I was definitely panicking about whether I would have to do that insanely monotonous setup again or not. Now that I'm writing this out and checked the footage to make sure I wasn't lying to myself, I could have just removed talking about the rules and just mentioned it was only used in Metal Harbor and Final Rush to skip the extra long deaths... Those being the white fadeout that happens when time runs out at the rocket for Metal Harbor and the really really long fall before you hit a killplane in Final Rush. You can actually see how it was used to skip the death and teleport me back to the checkpoint at 8:16 ! tl;dr I should have brought up that savestates were used in Metal Harbor and Final Rush as a "quick death" function to avoid wasting time just watching sonic fall to the killplane. Thank you for your comment and I hope this clarifies how the savestate was used in the challenge!

[@theIEndYOU]

Beware of the many people who are going to comment that you're moving and wanted to watch you find a way to somehow trick the game into warping you to the goal ring. This video is great don't worry about semantics.

[@MarioMastar]

I think there's an action replay code where you press a button and it warps you to the goal instantly amusingly enough. I used to play with that a lot. (in stages without a goal it didn't do anything though).

[@ansharchit]

This is insane i am surpised you only have 2k subscribers you deserve atleast 500k

[@En2md]

Since you weren't doing a challenge run but inventing one, the timeframe makes sense. The resources presented could be invaluable for anyone intrigued by this. (And crazy enough to try it)

[@SgtBaha]

Took me a while to get to this video but I'm glad I did. You did really great on it!

[@unlimitedduckgamer]

18:08 - 18:30 "Sonic defeats Shadow by doing absolutely nothing" Luigi: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be Legendary!!

[@TheNeraum]

dope challenge and execution, unrelated, your script sounds like it was written by Alpharad, idk if it was because you showed a clip of him at the beginning, but you just sound like him in the way you speak and word choices and stuff lol

[@Traitor1]

Thank you! Honestly I tried my best making the script casual so the voice over would seem natural. I feel happy people have been comparing it to alpharad but maybe that means I should try to change how I speak so it's more unique? In any case I really appreciate it!

[@TheNeraum]

@@Traitor1 Nah you're fine, do whatever style suits you! By the end of the video I barely noticed it anymore, it was probably because I literally saw Alpha's face at the beginning lol. It's just the word choices I think, maybe the flow. Your tone and energy are very different, Alpha even at his calmest has a lil bit of manic to him, you've got the voice that suits a speedrunner, very keeping-calm-under-pressure and "I know wtf I'm talking about" but it doesn't come across as condescending, especially because you were doing such a nonsense challenge haha

[@Quango1888]

Just found your channel through the 180 emblem speedrun I’m baffled how your channel isn’t bigger , awesome work dude ❤️

[@Traitor1]

Thank you I'm glad you think so!

[@jpet3]

Heck yeah, great video Traitor! Loved every second, what a wild challenge

[@Traitor1]

Thank you jpet I'm glad you enjoyed it so much! It really was a wild challenge and probably one of my biggest achievements in Sonic Adventure 2!

[@UltraMans100]

Would love to see more challenge run vids like this, you have a real knack for it

[@Traitor1]

Thank you I'm glad you think so! I'm planning on making more challenge videos in the future though most likely with shorter less demanding videos in between so I don't actually go insane hahaha

[@galladegamerletsplays]

seeing the cutoff title and thumbnail: oh, without the lightspeed shoes! That should be interesting clicking on it and seeing the full title: what

[@ryandomville3621]

Never watched an sa2 speed run, but watching the B roll of you beating King Boom-Boo in one cycle was extremely cathartic.

[@VidproXZ]

Hello! I'm here cuz the algorithm. Never saw you before anywhere. I think this challenge is stupid, but I still respect you for being able to do so much. I subscribed. You deserve it

[@SeveraLF]

Appreciate the work that went into this!

[@Traitor1]

Thank youuuu!

[@PhantomAarantula]

This is the type of challenge that makes me really appreciate the tiny details. I never would have been able to guess that Knuckles automatically targets enemies when he punches.

[@StarkMaximum]

If you told me you were going to do a no-control stick run of SA2, I would not have guessed that Knuckles would be your savior, in that all of his levels were beatable while everyone else had at least one whiff. You'd think he'd be one of the biggest nightmares!

[@PointsofData]

Yo wait you dont even have 4k subs? Criminal. If you ever come up with more challenges I love these kinds of videos, but I'll stick around even for the other speedrunning stuff. Commenting and liking for the engagement, hope it helps!

[@Thrackerzod8]

Just wanted to say that your editing skills are awesome, love your narration as well, great video :)

[@misterphill1701]

Please continue your speedrun tutorials! They were incredibly helpfull and made this game. The first game I've ever tried to learn a speedrun (especially because you give beginner as. Well as pro strats). Great video as always, glad to see a new video, keep up the great work!

[@Traitor1]

Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I definitely have the speedrun tutorials on my to do list! The only thing left is knuckles but the script for that is longer than the script for this video so it will take me some time to make 😅

[@misterphill1701]

@@Traitor1 oh I bet! take all the time my man the videos are worth it! If I can ask, for big knuckles/rouge levels like mad space and meteor herd, is still better to memorise every location or just say 75% and hope you get lucky (if say your memory isn't so great xD) thanks!

[@Traitor1]

@@misterphill1701 I would say to begin with, learning the most common ones is all you need! When I first started running I memorized very little. If there was a piece I never saw before I would go out of my way to remember the piece for the future and over time that's how I learned all of the pieces!

[@misterphill1701]

@@Traitor1 thank you!

[@honkerdoodles2764]

4:13 shouldve said it was all "downhill" from here

[@Traitor1]

NOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE SO RIGHT WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT D:

[@toby270gt7]

@@Traitor1nice

[@tebbo2896]

At no point did i think any level was 100% possible let alone a good amount of them. This is just absolutely incredible!!

[@MarioMastar]

Like some games from the 90s, if you put enough YEARS into them, you can literally figure out how to write a new game within the game code once you figure out how to manipulate RAM. XD Have you seen the TAS for Ocarina of time where they literally wrote an entirely new ending where Link gets the triforce and personally thanks the community for keeping the game alive for 30 years, all on console? and Super Mario World has a TAS where they replace the game with a working game of SNAKE and Brick break. One day...we'll figure out how to make SA1 stages in SA2 in engine. XD

[@RemyJustice97]

Frankly, that you were able to get through all of the Knuckles stages but not all of the Sonic stages astonishes me

[@ulyssesthedm]

By 3:13 I'm just thinking how hellish Crazy Gadget is going to be. EDIT 1: 10:40 lmao 😂 "I wish I could say I just knew this would happen....but uhhhhh, NO!" 🤣 EDIT 2: 16:50 Okay man, you took 2 days just doing the end section of this stage, you earned my subscription 😂 CRAZY GADGET LIGHTDASH THROUGH WALL LMAO 🤣

[@gameboycolor47]

No lie as soon as I was reminded you needed to do knuckles stages I got what I could only describe as a second hand headache.

[@bowserbreaker2515]

This is such a crazy challenge, and I love it. This was really impressive and fun to watch.

[@Traitor1]

Thank you! I thought it would be a fun challenge to work on and I ended up accomplishing more than I thought possible!

[@CarolinaWilliams]

UR DEDICATION IS INSANEEEEEEEEEE

[@Chaparrito]

30:04 is was NOT luck! Was the GRIND!!!!

[@jonwooooo]

The Egg Golem quicksand pulley was my favorite solution. That boss fight was kinda hype. Why is Ancient Light so wild though? I'm always terrified to use it near edges. Anyways great video, absolutely insane stuff.

[@sonicgamer178]

I got jumpscared seeing Pointcrow and thought he would finally cover sonic content. This is still amazing though LMAO