Sonic Modell AR Wing Pro - Assembly

[@REDROBRCFPV]

I wish the GoPro had a cover like the ar900, other then that she’s a beauty 👍

[@wackyack3165]

Andrew - could you please make a video explaining a starting point for what different thrust angles are needed for a sctatch built single & double motored tractor v. a single or double motored pusher configuration.

[@GroundControlRC]

Very nice looking Wing! I'm looking forward to the Maiden Flight as it should be fairly aerobatic ;-) See you in the Air!

[@chrisroddick3899]

Just maidened mine yesterday ! It was a little crazy at first but once trimmed out it flew very well. Amazingly durable and sleek and excellent cooling throughout.

[@KenKneknaneek]

Nice size aircraft and won't have any trouble seeing it in the sky. Looking forward to your maiden flight. Happy Flying

[@davidwatkin1484]

2.42 Space for a...........n EDF. Perfect.

[@MrVasmikey]

I have the older AR wing and it flys great. This one should be gorgeous.

[@FilipBonte]

Sonic Modell is great! Love flying these!

[@Hakinank]

Another wonderful demonstration. That would be awesome if the price would be around 60-65 for kit and 90 for PNP. Thanks again for the awesome video, as always if I decide to purchase it I will go ahead with your affiliate link.

[@theorangebaron1595]

Haha, love the box analysis can’t wait for a build with that!

[@hectorotis512]

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[@yousefjeremiah8918]

@Hector Otis Instablaster ;)

[@hectorotis512]

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[@stevefox3763]

After the first video you did with that track I had to download it, I have it on my headunit in my car and the baseline is savage on my 2000w RMS system with four 12's in the boot, the tune is as quality as that amazing plane :)

[@olliea6052]

Nice little bird! That smooth tail looks fantastic too. Lots of these have quite flat rear ends and it leads to serious noise, so its nice to see this.

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes I really like that aspect

[@reefer2917]

Great looking wing! looks like my size, interested to see how it flies, the stumpy wings remind me of the teksumo, and it fly brilliantly, this will too, great vid as always Andrew thanks for showing

[@thilde007]

If you want 5 stitches on your finger try testing out the servos w/ the prop on and nudge the throttle when flipping the wing over

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes, I have tested similar methods

[@k1ortia]

Just received mine yesterday. Really impressed with the layout and design, But I deffinatly think there needs to be some kind of Evolution version. There is no real protection for your expensive go pro, it's just sat there on the nose. An enclosure would of been much better, and provide protection. And also a slightly longer fuselage to add bigger or more batteries. Apart from that it's a great looking wing.

[@davidn7795]

Nice Explanation nice Video. The Cable direct on the Motors are kind of a tight fit in my build, but its working

[@etops.flight]

Wish EPP would come in white too so customised painting would be an option. How’s the weather? Are you going to maiden before Painless 360?

[@AndrewNewton]

I'd like to let him get in first. We will see.

[@peterzingler6221]

There's always the option of covering it with covering film. Also makes it much more durable

[@Tom-wl9sx]

Maybe I'll try this one. Great video

[@rabaranwer9752]

Nice wing looks smooth..thanks

[@ChandlerWoodruff]

Thanks for your video. I am new to wings and have two Mini AR which came preassembled but the AR Pro was basically a kit and I needed some instructions to get me running and this video did just that.

[@AndrewNewton]

Great to hear!

[@archivist17]

Looks promising!

[@julianhumphrey4843]

Did you fit the spar, dont remember seeing it go in? I am very mixed on this wing, when it was first announced on Lee`s channel i was all for getting one, and yes it is a very well designed wing, but having seen a couple of maiden video`s it looks to still have a bit of bob and wobble like the 900, so now im not sure, i have a 900 and the rambler 1000, albabird 1100 and dragon 1200, really look forward to your maiden, i would say good luck but a pilot like you dont need luck

[@AndrewNewton]

Oh no forgot the spar.....well I forgot to show it being fitted.

[@peterzingler6221]

It's nice that the normal sonicwing is now cheap as chips :D

[@barliankurniawan5754]

Great video 👍🏽🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@CarftyCarper]

Had to stop during the video to ask what is the music track.? Nice build video, fingers crossed mine arrives soon.

[@daxdadog]

It's Jeremy Blake - The Emperor's Army . A very nice piece of music.

[@mauxx91]

Great video, I was wondering about servo travel, the manual says you should hava a max throw of 12mm but mounting the servo meccanically centered I got around double the throw till touching the servo hold borders. How did you setup the throw? And inside inav? Thanks a lot

[@AndrewNewton]

Pushrods in the outer holes for servo arm and control horn. 50/50 elevon mix gives close to the right throws. I suspect you're looking at 100% rather than 50% weights

[@roddysallie9861]

Just ordered one today 😁

[@HLMAX]

Try E6000/E7000/E8000 with build-in needle tip. They work great for EPP and EPO foam. They are less viscous version of Goop. Much easier and cleaner to use. Gets into tighter seams and gaps for stronger bonds. Also less bulk.

[@k1ortia]

Believe it or not, iv always used super glue on all my planes and wings, ever since i bought my S800 about two years ago. Never had any problems with the foam dissolving or melting as people say.

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks for the tip!

[@HLMAX]

@@k1ortia The problem with Super Glue (CA) is that they are brittle and does not fill gaps. These E glues are very flexible and have more body to fill gaps, very tough stuff. Much cleaner to use without leaving that 'frosted' appearance; in fact, you can easily remove the glue in many cases, sort of like those 3M Command tapes. Sticks to almost anything, lot of uses. Very inexpensive. You can get them at Banggood or Amazon.

[@anthonycallan7964]

Great so far Andrew really looking forward to the maiden. Mine has been "Delayed" according to Banggood so I look on with envy. Quick question please: What size FPV camera in the nose, eg Runcam Phoenix 2, micro at 19x19x20 or something bigger

[@avsaase]

Does it still fit into the box with the motor mounted, when you takes the wings off but keep the wingtips on?

[@AndrewNewton]

No, it is perfectly sized for the body without motor, and wings without fins

[@brutoosXJ]

I think i am missing control horns, do you remember where they were packed?

[@AndrewNewton]

In a little zip lock bag inside the bag with the red velcro, wing bolts and ply laser cut pieces

[@brutoosXJ]

@@AndrewNewton thank you very much. Unfortunately I don't have them :( Anyway thank you very much for your work. My first build was your Acrobat project, and that hooked me into hobby, thanks again :)

[@egtreadway4232]

Great video thanks, so on the supplied ca hinges I assume you would cut off the alerions in order to install the hinges, is this correct? Thanks again

[@AndrewNewton]

I never fitted CA hinges but yes you would normally need to separate the ailerons first

[@egtreadway4232]

@@AndrewNewton ok thanks I'll give it a try

[@egtreadway4232]

I really enjoy flying this wing I'm in process of building my 3rd one, on first 2 I removed the build in electrical plugs for wings because they are only 3 pins each, in order to install receiver on one wing and vtx on other it takes 4 connections but what a waste of these plugs, just wondering how you get around this? Maybe its possible to share a servo ground or maybe positive pin? I do worry about interference by doing this. Thanks for all your videos

[@AndrewNewton]

I would keep them separate to reduce noise on the video and Rx

[@egtreadway4232]

Thanks will do

[@vektr6278]

Do I need to setup reflex and max throws for this wing if im using inav?

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes, INAV requires a correctly setup plane as a starting point.

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

Should I use landing gear on grass field for trainer rc plane

[@AndrewNewton]

If the wheels are right for the grass length, then yes. Otherwise take it off and belly land

[@Afiso]

A Raspberry Pi will fit nicely inside. awesome!

[@mkolesnik]

hi , Andrew, do you have any information on how to setup the stock ESC for propeller break on idle so that the prop is positioned horizontally for landing?

[@AndrewNewton]

Not possible to program the angle it stops at.

[@opnekryan]

I would think adding a brake on wing would actually be a good way to break a prop. If you simply allow the prop to spin free on idle, it should settle into the slipstream on landing (thats my theory at least) and naturally get out of the way. Hope that helps!

[@mkolesnik]

Hi, would you mind sharing how much of elevon reflex (trim up) you set after the first few flights. a closeup pic would be great :)

[@AndrewNewton]

From memory it was level with the outer end and a few mm up on the inner end of the elevon.

[@mkolesnik]

@@AndrewNewton thanks. ANd after tuning where did you end up? more trim up?

[@brunoadriao1280]

Looks like a next project for me Andrew ;) Nice video.

[@AndrewNewton]

Plenty of space for gear with the AR Pro

[@rickwinjester9706]

Hi,nice build. What did you use for a receiver? Thanks Rick And do you have any videos on the Voltage regulator sensor that you install thank you

[@AndrewNewton]

Rx6R receiver, yes I have done a few tutorials on the 40A current sensor

[@rickwinjester9706]

@@AndrewNewton Great thanks Any possiblity of a quick video on wiring and programming of the receiver, that is always trouble for me? Thanks again Rick

[@rickwinjester9706]

@@AndrewNewton Hi I found your video on the rx6r did you connect that to a flight board? If so what did you use and I what wiring did you connect to it power,sbus,etc? Thanks I'm just trying to figure out all the components that I need and how to wire it

[@AndrewNewton]

3 wire SBUS cable is all that's required (white red black), but you can also connect SPort (yellow) to send all the telemetry to your radio. INAV on a Flight Control Board - If you chose UART2 as Serial in the Ports Tab then connect White to RX2, Red to 4.5V or 5V, Black to G. For SPort telemetry, enable Soft Serial in Config Tab and connect Yellow to TX2. The board provides power to the RX6R. Have a look at my RC Basics playlist

[@Jamesn-js1zp]

Andrew, not sure where you get your UHO POR from but SPOTLIGHT stocks plenty of it, they even stock it in Mackay QLD

[@AndrewNewton]

HobbyKing when it is in stock

[@michael3573]

Great video. I’ve only built and flown quads since 2017. Looking at wings for the first time. I’ll be looking at smaller units than this.

[@AndrewNewton]

Good move. Dont start too small, they are too agile to learn on. AR900 is a good one

[@AndrewNewton]

@@artemstepanchenko2047 No, too big and heavy.

[@johnybeegood5727]

Do you think it could be possible to use servos ground as a common ground for vtx or rx, to allow Smartaudio or full crossfire telemetry with these items inside wings pockets?

[@AndrewNewton]

I would think yes.

[@nolsaepark1]

Ordered😁

[@kermets]

I went through and thunbs up every ones comment because I like the look of this model.....and Andrew is cool

[@AndrewNewton]

Nice one kermets

[@janspoelstra8309]

Hi Andrew, I started work on my white one and want to cover the parts in light glasscloth and waterbased varnish, to have a coat preventing it from getting all muddy on my field. How do I go about removing the tool marks (seven point dots), which will push the cloth up, leaving white markings.

[@AndrewNewton]

Sandpaper or very sharp knife I guess. I have never done it

[@makewithmegma]

I love it😍👌👍

[@derekbell5333]

What's is the knob on the battery that controlled the motor while installing the prop??

[@AndrewNewton]

Servo tester. Can use it instead of radio and receiver for throttle during setup.

[@derekbell5333]

@@AndrewNewton thanks! My AR Pro arrives Tuesday!! Can't wait. Great vids, btw.

[@Swimfinz]

Andrew...I believe you are using a long shaft motor in your build, is that correct? Thanks in advance...

[@AndrewNewton]

Possibly, mine was supplied with the PNP kit

[@Swimfinz]

@@AndrewNewton ... Thank you for answering my question.

[@kenschulz5138]

Good afternoon I just got my new wing love it. What is the best moter and esc you recommend? I have a new t-motor f45a v2, moter 2210 Method SWR 2200KV still in the box

[@AndrewNewton]

I just used the PNP version. Best to ask Mark Hoffmann about alternatives.

[@kenschulz5138]

Thank you Andrew

[@kingrc6865]

@07:30 you were putting pins in the wing, Why did you do that? what's the purpose of doing that?

[@AndrewNewton]

Holding the spar while glue dries

[@Quadcopterguide]

nice video Sir! I have been itching for a Wing, and this might be the one that makes me pull the trigger.. DJI HD!

[@AndrewNewton]

Might be a bit big and heavy for your first wing

[@Quadcopterguide]

@@AndrewNewton thanks for the reply. I had a slope soarer years ago, and have fixed wing experience. Hope it would work out well :D

[@alexandrpetrov1110]

Sonic Modell AR Wing Pro - Assembly

[@TakeItToTheGround]

Looks very well made & designed but I prefer my wings more streamlined & without the need of a go-pro to make CG. Looks more of a heavy lift long range cruiser.

[@MrSimonPlays]

The servo horns I have on my servos don't allow for the screw, the holes are MUCH too small. Any tips on where I can find ones that fit? Also the nuts for the control bar (or the linkage between the control horn and servos, whatever it's called) close off, kinda like endcaps. Doesn't allow for a tight fit due to the length of the screw. Am I doing something wrong here?

[@AndrewNewton]

Pushrod is the term you are looking for. Just have to drill out the servo arm holes to the right size, or heat up a pushrod and melt the hole. Buy some nylock nuts to replace the closed ones.

[@BryonGaskin]

Thoughts on prop size/pitch to run this on 3s? I've got quite a few 3s 5200s that balance pretty much in the same spot as 4S 3300. 3s seems to work pretty well. Get about 20% to 25% more flight cruising around between 5 to 6.5 amps.

[@AndrewNewton]

I would guess 9x5 or 9x6 for 3S

[@haloaste]

is there enough space for gopro8?

[@AndrewNewton]

More than enough space for the 7

[@Winniethepopo]

Do you think, that the 4s 5200mah multistar would fit inside it ?

[@AndrewNewton]

4000 4S fits easily, don't have that battery

[@Elijahhuckaby]

Does it fly the same as an FT mighty mini arrow??

[@AndrewNewton]

Nothing like the FT mini arrow. More like the big FT Versa

[@Elijahhuckaby]

@@AndrewNewton is the Controls sensitive?

[@AndrewNewton]

No it's quite smooth

[@Elijahhuckaby]

@@AndrewNewton Ok thank you, I’m flying mine for the first Time and don’t want to crash.

[@sirakghazaryan5272]

Is the Lipo 4S 7000mAh battery good to go? The engine will not be overheated? Thanks in advance.

[@AndrewNewton]

I think it is made for this wing.

[@k1ortia]

How long did this take to reach you after you placed your order? i dont know weather to go ahead and order from china or wait until it comes into stock in EU, So i get it quicker here in the U.K.

[@AndrewNewton]

Re release review model, came straight from SM

[@HandofTheQueenakaJesse]

Great build vid! I used it to build mine! 😁👍Thanks Andrew

[@AndrewNewton]

Glad I could help!

[@HandofTheQueenakaJesse]

Andrew, I am having trouble getting the servos working. Are they PPM or PWM? Can you tell us what reciever you used with no FC on your LOS test? THANKS AGAIN!!!!

[@matheus4455]

What is better inav or ardupilot?

[@AndrewNewton]

I only know INAV really

[@izabela116]

Released after sm hd wing ordered ;( maybe hd wing will be cool too

[@AndrewNewton]

Nothing wrong with the HD wing, very efficient

[@JohnVHRC]

Nice

[@boosmoogames]

I think I should have bought this instead of the dart 250g😂😂

[@AndrewNewton]

Very different design briefs, you need both

[@boosmoogames]

@@AndrewNewton If I've got the money I would but I also have a me-163 a glider and a blunt nose versa wing that I still need to fly. :))

[@boosmoogames]

My versa wing is a bit underpowered but flies great I think. But still need to get better in the controlls.

[@imnothererightnoww]

How are you controlling it, don't you need a flight controller to do that?

[@AndrewNewton]

No need for FC with most planes.

[@saltyfly3260]

@@AndrewNewton What are you using to plug everything into if not a FC? Sorry new to wings. thx

[@fritzstudios8571]

What's that little servo tester device you use? I'm new to this

[@AndrewNewton]

You guessed it. Servo tester from HobbyKing connected to 4xNiMH

[@The_Pub_]

Enough room in that to stow ya lunch Mate! Better Engineering In the Design,, Screw on Winglets,.,., About FT! It looks AlMoSt..StElTh!!!!! Always Appreciate the Sonic models.. Always fly well. This should be Awesome..Bat+50g in the nose,,, this thing will not stop in any hurry....

[@gamaxgbg]

Beautiful wing, but seems to be a FPV only. Anyone interested in flying it LOS or any lightweight build will have problems. Really a "pro", not for anyone.

[@EnglishTurbines]

Forced to fit a dobbing great GoPro to get CG....No Thanks.

[@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346]

I'm #1 Again... LOL

[@DronePlayground]

👍👀🇭🇷