Sonic Poison? The Genesis of Havana Syndrome | Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

CIA agents in Havana complaining of mental fog, dizziness and ear pain in 2016. Children in Miami in 1974, hyperventilating and wracked with abdominal pain. A medieval outbreak of the “dancing plague”. A chorus of meowing nuns.
These mysterious and seemingly disparate events may have a simple explanation - and one that’s often overlooked when it comes to understanding strange new syndromes.
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[@kathleenmckenzie6261]

I've probably been on both sides of this psychogenic phenomenon. I suffered crippling migraines for years and was told my numerous doctors that nothing was wrong with me, only to finally learn that the migraines were the result of severe allergies. Treated the allergies and the headaches disappeared. Ditto the symptoms of undiagnosed, untreated severe sleep apnea. OTOH, it's very easy for me to wonder about episodes of nausea, various pains, dizziness, etc., which turn out to be nothing if I ignore them for a time and sometimes turn out to be something. Yes, suggestibility is very real, and oftentimes so other vague clusters of symptoms turn out to be indicators of very real physical maladies.

[@PeacefulWorld123-freedom4us]

I will post my concerns on popular news channels of both red and blue. A lot of Americans(in both party) are stalked and attacked by direct energy weapons.

[@LostAnFound]

Havana is diagnosed by MRI

[@williamscott9459]

The smell could even be a result it pressure. Since it leaves no burn.

[@williamscott9459]

The bug signals are simply carrier waves. They are the audible part of the effort. Problems don't start till the signal is mixed or altered, compressed, converted or added to or used as a counterbalance like the Chinese two bell itterigation effort. Most important its plausibly deniable. Uts natural like light, natural.

[@williamscott9459]

Thats why some if this is refered as the pacaso affect.

[@williamscott9459]

I suspected early in that the cable system had a lot to do with this signal. In my research on this i found a few things. That sound from vuba sounds like a cable before or after a filter sending an air signal off a cable under charge. There are inly three companies in the world that make these filters. One us in syracuse ny. The other china and the other Russia i think.

[@williamscott9459]

The Cuba section , the first report sounds like old Russian am tap of am radio. It's the neutral or the ground on am car radio.

[@williamscott9459]

And then white noise mixed with digital electric and radar or sonar or microwave.

[@williamscott9459]

Remember the 5000 year old Chinese two bell interrogation methode. Put a person in a large bell and ring constantly. Then ring a small bell near the person insides voice pitch and question them. This is the Chinese origin of wireless interrogation.

[@williamscott9459]

Thats not true. That carrier does not cause injury but it can create stress which causes injury or oressure which causes injury or muscle reaction in conflict or reduction in o2 intake all these things are cumulative. Tesponse to the sound alone causing injury.

[@williamscott9459]

The funny smell is a result of old tech no konger a oroblem with newer versions of this abuse. Its iver energized electrinic capacitors that are leaking. That dtuff can result in smell and illness.

[@h2co3footprint25]

These sounds are ridiculous, annoying… not going to deal with this! What’s wrong with you??

[@brendonhulett7545]

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