Sonic SatAM (What Sonic Forces Tried To Be)

[@risso2309]

A fanmade 3rd season is in the works apparently, so hopefully that'll send a message to SEGA if it does well.

[@BlueTyphoon2017]

Really? Is there a website or article that confirms this is a thing?

[@keithrowsell6847]

@@BlueTyphoon2017 kzbin.info/door/qt_nJIqqXLX2avpnoxmpMA Tadaaa

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Hopefully

[@willa.5393]

I have faith it'll get Sega's attention. They go where money and spotlight goes.

[@bettertobethoughtafool]

I'm STILL waiting -sonic

[@averymerrick]

What Could Have Been: The show's third season was completely laid out and prepared, and then ABC cancelled it: The Freedom Fighters (now called "Freedom Builders") would have begun the process of rebuilding Mobotropolis, Rotor spearheading the transformation, and Sonic finding that Victory Is Boring. Unbeknown to them, Snively would be sneaking about Robotropolis, gathering intel on the Freedom Fighters and plotting to attack them outright. For a time, Snively is able to place himself in a position of power, proving himself as formidable a foe as Robotnik, if not more so. However, his time as head villain would prove short lived thanks to the efforts of the Freedom Fighters, and in a moment of desperation would free Naugus, Robotnik, and King Acorn from the void. Naugus immediately takes on the title of main villain, using the King as bait to lure Sally in, and making Snively nothing. Robotnik's nephew was slated to defect to the Freedom Fighters in retaliation, although he would secretly plan to betray them at some point, Antoine being the only one to notice - and ultimately stop - Snively's plans. The show apparently would have eventually confirmed, as some fans had already speculated, that Mobius was Earth All Along, with the story set millennia after a world-purging nuclear war that wiped out humans and caused animals to become sapient. Robotnik and Snively were to be the last humans alive and had been off-planet on a space colonization mission when the war struck. After betraying and killing the rest of their crew, they returned to Earth and, due to relativity, landed after the animals had already assumed control of the planet. Tails would have matured and played a much larger role as an official member of the Freedom Fighters, even showing a bit of a rebellious side and would save Knothole Village from a major disaster. Furthermore, his relationship with Sonic would have been closer to the games. Dulcy would have come into her full powers. All Ben Hurst said about that was, “You don’t want to see a dragon when she gets mad.” Sally would be romanced by someone other than Sonic, though in the end Sonic would eventually come out on top. Sonic would also undergo a major personality change. Nicole's backstory would be told, revealing that she was once a Mobian child that was brainwashed into a computer program by Robotnik. At some point NICOLE would be restored to her former self, becoming a part of the Freedom Fighters. At some point, Knothole would *"get crunched".* Knuckles was supposed to appear at the end of the season and was going to be more of a main character for an also never made fourth season.

[@feelstherabbitandpals373]

I promise to make a movie out of this... or a bonus series.

[@getjinxed101]

This actually makes some sense

[@Dan-ch8kv]

@@feelstherabbitandpals373 Fan movies have been made or attempted to be made, and they’ve all been cringe worthy at best.

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

They “tried” to make it like sonic satam.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

I get the feeling that the tone in direction which "Forces" was aiming for wasn't what Sonic Team was used to handling. I mean, the game continuity was generally looser in its setting and it had a wide variety of colorful environments to traverse, whereas SatAM was very much confined to its bleak environment. Not exactly an ideal match.

[@Idazmi7]

@@geoffreyrichards6079 _"the game continuity was generally looser in its setting and it had a wide variety of colorful environments to traverse, whereas SatAM was very much confined to its bleak environment."_ Yes, environments like the Great forest, Maga Island, Lower Mobius, the Spy Satellite, The Palace of the Time Stones, Mobitropolis, and the Void were all colorless and bleak environments. *I'm being sarcastic.*

[@thrasher9534]

@@Idazmi7 yeah I don't think they mean all areas

[@Nightweaver1]

As I've said on other essays on SatAM, I don't think people can quite appreciate just how much of an impact this show had on me as a young teenager back in the early '90s. SatAM was THE seminal moment in my creative and fantasy life, full stop. It was the hardest (and still is) I've ever dived into a series and world, and is almost solely responsible for me becoming an artist and furry (I mean, make of that what you will, but it's still true). I just turned 41, and SatAM is still a beloved series for me, so deep in my subconscious at this point that it's pretty much a part of my zeitgeist. Sonic SatAM, the cartoon so good that they were only allowed to make two seasons of it.

[@redbarrelentertainment]

Completely ridiculous to think the show came out 30 years ago. I wasn’t even born yet

[@jerrodhall1]

I had some fun with Forces, but it is definitely a flawed game, and it's setting only made me yearn for more SatAM.

[@WildonVantrix]

You and me both.

[@bigbluebuttonman1137]

Comic Robotnik (the Archie version and the IDW version) is also an intimidating version of the "good doctor." Yes, even when Robotnik gets his more modern appearance in the comics, he still maintains a level of calculation and maliciousness that makes him threatening.

[@eslm-studios2996]

Don’t be too disheartened though. Even though the SatAM series was its own thing, it was great inspiration for the Archie Comics series of Sonic, and that continued all the way to 2017! Until Sega had to give Archie Comics the boot on Sonic when they fell into bankruptcy... All the same, what we need is a real throwback to Sonic SatAM.

[@prufan]

Archie sonic stopped being like Satam in the 2013 reboot. Sea3on fancomic was a better continuation of satam, better than Archie ever was.

[@funnelvortex7722]

The comics were never really a good representation of the SatAM concept to begin with, the early issues were like AOSTH and then after that we got the Penders clusterfuck, then Flynn’s boring storylines, and then the fallout of the Penders clusterfuck. It’s a shame because the comics had a lot of potential with the concept of mixing SatAM with the games but were handled so poorly. Mostly thanks to Penders.

[@waterlily7075]

as of now there's a season 3 in the works, it's being made by a small team and they have their own KZbin channel where they post their work in progresses and they even have a proof of concept on their channel, currently they've raised a little over 500 dollars from monthly donations.

[@ledetbrothers9210]

FunnelVortex I feel it got better in the post-reboot era of the Archie comics. However, the reboot pushed the comics closer to the video game continuity but still had SatAM elements. Also, I think that Ian Flynn is fine as the lead writer. He’s *miles* better than the melodramatic clusterfuck that was Pender’s run.

[@MistyKathrine]

@@prufan Sally's personality seemed closer to her SatAM roots in the reboot though. Pre-reboot was absolute mess. Would have been nice if they rebooted it when they fired Penders rather than waiting 7 years.

[@ZarctheCelestialDuelist]

Everytime I hear Sonic's voice in any of the Dic cartoons, I just keep on seeing Steve Urkel in a recording booth doing Sonic's lines

[@mechajay3358]

The IDW so far has been doing a much better job than Forces ever did.

[@thrasher9534]

Forces is the reason the IDW series happened

[@TMP876]

@@thrasher9534The only positive you can give Forces tbh

[@derekstephens8103]

I'm glad you like Sonic satam like I do

[@warlordjulianrobotnik5741]

They could've made the SatAM or Archie comics into a game but knowing SEGA's mentality of making unoriginal stories and characters, I should have known better. When I first saw the Forces trailer I was like "Could they FINALLY be making a game out of the comics?" then it was released and how I was disappointed but not surprised. They really need to get over this hateful attitude of the Western version of Sonic.

[@sabrinalibby3435]

There was a protype for a sonic stam game were sonic sneek past badnicks and trow rings

[@katrinalamban3459]

Yep, could've gotten some writing advice from Ian Flynn or other story writers who have experience in the Archie's Sonic comics series for the game's plot and script, even if they can't use Satam characters (cuz of Ken Penders). BUT NOOOOPE. Can't have that either.😄🤣🙄

[@DLAbaoaqu]

I've tried getting writing advice from him regard my own continuation of the comic but got very little aside from "I don't remember".

[@katrinalamban3459]

@@DLAbaoaqu Who did you ask?

[@DLAbaoaqu]

Flynn, via his Bumbleking page. The big thing I want to get knocked out is a resolution of the Thrash-Echidna storyline where the original timeline left off, but nobody wants to collab. It's as if they're afraid to see it resolved.

[@michaelrodriguez2829]

Snivley was supposed to be the new Villain,Those eyes were supposed to be the eyes of Ixis Nawgus.

[@zionthedragon8866]

Wait, for real about the last part? Proof, like official confirmation by the original creators of the show that's the case?

[@MetroGexual]

@@zionthedragon8866 Ben Hurst said that those were Naugus’ eyes

[@zionthedragon8866]

@@MetroGexual Can you link me where he said it?

[@samuelmbila5583]

Or the eyes Metal Sonic.

[@cobalt7248]

I want a fangame actually BASED on the Sonic SatAM series, with all the characters, lore and villains

[@Idazmi7]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6LWaYawj9h4mcU - Here you go!

[@cobalt7248]

@@Idazmi7 Thanks man!

[@Idazmi7]

@@cobalt7248 You're welcome! Spread the word. ^-^

[@cobalt7248]

@@Idazmi7 Will do!

[@ExtremeWreck]

Are we just gonna brush Sonic Epoch to the side?

[@K0dAHeY]

For a channel that started, you seem to be having a great start! So welcome!

[@Angie2343]

Hey, I LOVED Sonic Underground as well! It even was made by the same team!

[@lordmetallium9678]

If sonic forces would have the freedom fighters from SATAM it would have been a amazing hit meaning if Sally acorn and the crew where in it but as you all know, SEGA DOSE NOT CARE ABOUT THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS :( its a shame.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

I seriously doubt it would've been that simple to fix.

[@SolidArc91]

@@geoffreyrichards6079 They would need to take things seriously and have emotional moments. Also they need to fix classic's physics.

[@lukegamerzw]

I would probably blame people like Ken Penders(he lawsuited Sega,Sonic Team,Bioware,Archie something because he had some weird visions about Knuckles the Echidna family) and Jon Gray(for ruining romance between Sonic and Sally face slapping panel comic book scene) for that.

[@thrasher9534]

I mean... Why would they care about something that lost to power rangers in popularity and is only relevant to people who read comics or watch the show

[@lordmetallium9678]

@@thrasher9534 my opinion they should cause is part of a original lore I mean is mobius Sonic's homeworld

[@tetankdank1599]

I am 15 years old currently and watched the whole sonic Satam show when I was seven. Even know I was born before the show came out I still watched it and annoyed every minute of the show. come on, who doesn't like the scene where antwain freak's out over Snively making crepes incorrectly. I was happy untill I watched every episode of sonic Satam and realize that there where no more episodes. I was not born at the time the show realized, but I still grew up watching it. Such a shame that the show was pitted down. The legacy will forever carry on.

[@AceRuiner1979]

A lot of the Antwon episodes were actually episodes that ABC wanted in the show because they thought it was starting to get to be too dark of a show... I almost wanna do an edit that either gets rid of or limits how much time he shows up in the show lol

[@astrotrain3332]

Just wanted to say I'm right there with you man on everything you said. Satam is the best interpretation of Sonic. He was the most likeable, the most interesting, the most relatable, the the most charismatic, and the most alive in that series. I don't think he will be allowed to be like that again, at least not canonically. Sonics too big now. Sega doesn't want him showing emotion. But the fans can and hopefully will bring true heart to the series in the form of fan creations.

[@mikeakaspike]

Yeah, I grew up a huge Sonic fan as a kid. Same thing, I got up every Saturday morning to watch religiously. I continued to be a huge fan and watched the other versions too. But I hated that they did away with this iteration. I always hoped that they would bring it back. Even when the franchise started to decline, I thought maybe they'll have a hail Mary moment and try to bring it back. And now, the franchise is barely treading water. If they brought back this universe and expanded the lore, continuing it the way it was meant to be, I would throw wads of money at them. Now, I find myself wanting to wrangle together the comics, to get to see a continuation of those characters.

[@prufan]

Read the Sea3on fancomic, it's a far better continuation of the story.

[@derekbambenek7803]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who got that: the background complex for the final battle looked like the backdrop from the Doomsday Project!

[@SolidArc91]

Satam: You're comparing yourself to me? Hah! You're not even good enough to be my fake! Forces: i'Ll MakE YOu eAt thOSe wOrDS! Satam: As if you even tried to be decent. You won't even get the chance!

[@redbarrelentertainment]

After decades of Sega telling anyone who wanted SatAM back to essentially go fuck themselves, they make Sonic Prime and make the first universe a massive SatAM ripoff.

[@Jonathan83X]

Solid review of this cartoon. Although, I would have had changed the title to, "Sonic Satam(What Sonic Forces should have been) Also, I hope you do review Sonic Underground sometime. I'd like to hear your thoughts about it since I too agree it's garbage for the most part.

[@prufan]

I think Underground is underrated, it's better than the recent games.

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

That dosen’t make sense unless you are referring to story

[@prufan]

Of course I'm referring to story.

[@shaunrichards3869]

It’s obvious what I was talking about, the story.

[@VOAN]

I like how they used Silver Sonic from Sonic 2 as Sonic's uncle in this cartoon. It really shows that the cartoon creator know how to use every characters from the game respectfully. Only thing is that this cartoon came before Sonic 3 so Knuckles was never established into the show.

[@steviews3286]

I always used to feel really bad about killing Silver in Sonic 2 as I thought it was Uncle Chuck!

[@VOAN]

That's what my brother use to think too since he saw the cartoon before he play Sonic 2. He said he hated the game cause it depict Sonic killing Uncle Chuck instead of saving him.

[@VOAN]

*marcel buchaca* Nobody said they were the same character, the brainwash version of Chuck was based on Silver Sonic's design from Sonic 2 as this show aired at the time Sonic 2 was released.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@VOAN That also explains why Tails in the SatAM series doesn't feature as much until "Droode Henge", because in Sonic 2, he literally was a kid sidekick (whose CPU-controlled character constantly died from colliding directly into the background environment & getting hit by hazards dropped on him or thrown at him by Dr. Robotnik's in-game badnik henchmen) & he didn't become the child prodigy inventor millennial children recognize him as until after SEGA of Japan's internalization of the games following Sonic Adventure, which is the first game to introduce the "Modern" redesigns of Sonic (from short & slightly pudgy with basic black dot [in the Classic games] or standard cartoon eyes [in the DiC cartoons & Archie Sonic comics], along with having a minimal swimming ability courtesy of using air bubbles so he could "breathe" underwater to gangly & much slimmer with definitive green eyes, not to mention seemingly giving him hydrophobia to actively make him unable to swim at all anymore, so much so he drops like a lead balloon & automatically drowns when falling into water nowadays), Tails (going from cute kid sidekick to child prodigy inventive tactician), Knuckles (becoming beefier) & Amy Rose (starting out as an adorable 8-year-old damsel wearing a schoolgirl outfit harboring a celebrity crush on the titular hero in Sonic CD to a mysteriously age bumped to 12-years-old overly-obsessed fangirl now sporting her now iconic white-trimmed satin red dress with matching heel pumps, whose crush grew into a fixation entering stalker territory, which is likely --- along with culturally moral ethical reasons linked to the two hedgehog's age difference, not to mention Sonic X Sally already being canon to the predominant American Western canon ahead of Amy's surprise continued usage in the games going forward, especially since SEGA of America first created Sally Acorn from the Ricky the Squirrel model template in 1991 before the home console release of Sonic 2, which introduced Sonic's little buddy Tails, whereas Amy was taken from a nonsensical 1992 manga to which Sonic had been licensed, with manga Amy not even actually created by SEGA, but she was instead developed by the manga publisher directly, leading to SEGA of Japan buying her from her true creators -- the reason/s why over 15-years-old Sonic runs away from Amy) rather than keeping the Freedom Fighters together outside of the Archie Sonic comics.

[@gabeheartz13saravia97]

@@steviews3286 I’ve never played the game, but I’ve seen the gameplay and cutscenes! I’m glad that somebody else recognizes that Sonic Forces (on a conceptual level) was partially based off of "The 1993 Sonic Saturday Mornings Animated Television Series" (Sonic SatAM) and/or The Sonic Archie Comics that was also (in a literal sense) partly based off SatAM! I guess they tried to make "Sonic Forces" the spiritual successor to SatAM and Sonic Archie, maybe they would have succeeded if they had better mechanics, more visuals on character interactions and of course the original characters of the SatAM/Archie Sonic Series!!!

[@alexandrpeterberg390]

Sonic SatAM made me a sucker for stories of rebels/freedom fighters struggle against an evil empire and its tyranny and their struggle to win back their world.

[@bluestreak4943]

6:32 *Shut up, Snively*

[@mariajames5656]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

[@cullbear55]

2 people doubted what Sonic can really do

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

While I agree that SatAM was miles better in execution than "Forces", I wouldn't say that the show itself was perfect. It had its share of tonal problems, plotholes, and I could've easily done without some of its irritating characters (I'm looking at you, Dulcy). The humor was also pretty weak and kinda cringe-worthy at points, but that's to be expected from an early '90s show. I'm saying this as a fan to anyone who might be curious to check out the show.

[@Idazmi7]

That's all due to the constant meddling by executives behind the scenes (Dulcy and Antoine in particular). They should have all buggered off and let the show be instead of trying to make it more lighthearted.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

@@Idazmi7 While that's indeed the case, I do think that the writers themselves might've also contributed to it. I mean, Ben Hurst has gone on record to say that Dulcy was his favorite character aside from Sally - which would explain why that character had such a prominent presence during the 2nd season despite not being in the previous one.

[@Idazmi7]

@@geoffreyrichards6079 _"While that's indeed the case, I do think that the writers themselves might've also contributed to it. I mean, Ben Hurst has gone on record to say that Dulcy was his favorite character aside from Sally - which would explain why that character had such a prominent presence during the 2nd season despite not being in the previous one."_ Ben Hurst wrote exactly ONE episode in the First season, and it had a dark tone. He wrote practically *all* episodes of the second season, and they had lighter tones. Do the math: the other writers weren't onboard with the neutering of their series and got shafted. Ben Hurst went with the flow just to keep the show alive: his season 3 concepts were all dark (Like, Robotnik outright murdering a child and harvesting their intelligence).

[@buster3041]

@@Idazmi7 Whatever the reasons are don't dissuade the initial post's point fam.

[@buster3041]

Wow. Now if only the avatar fan base was able to admit that show is flawed.

[@MLPPixel727]

I agree that SatAM covered the plot of Dr. Robotnik taking over and Sonic’s friends having to create an uprising much better.

[@Dommie222]

I bet that Sega had the Archie Comics' Sonic series cancelled so that they could steal its premise for Sonic Forces, only to fail where it and its Satam predecessor succeeded.

[@Idazmi7]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[@icejuice4212]

Satam and Archie portrayed sonic characters better than the games ever did. In Archie, Shadow isn’t some lame edgelord and actually cares for people, silver has his own arc and is extremely badass, tails is useful. The villains in Archie are so much better than villains in the games as well. Despite the writing flaws of archie, it was a great series. Satam is mature and eggman/robotnik is terrifying, Sonic’s personality was at its best, and the characters were loveable.

[@waterlily7075]

There's a team of writers, animators and etc trying to create Sonic sat am season 3, if your curious go check it out please they need all the help they can get, there's currently a few test animatic and proof of concept up on youtube. also anyone else reading this if you often donate to project this is the one as they are fulfilling a man's dying wish of completing the Sat am series, Ben Hurst the creator of sat am sadly died in 201,0 and before his death has tried numerous times to get sat am the season 3 it deserves before being shut down by Sega after a failed pitch by the absolute nutcase and jackass that is ken penders who tried to claim sat am as his own creation.

[@feelstherabbitandpals373]

I was confused wether that was Metal Sonic in the style of SatAM, Scratch, or a new Main Antagonist. Sadly I never got to find out.

[@Dommie222]

According to Ben Hurst, the show's main writer, it was Naugus.

[@jessimaetapang7466]

Oh hey Steve reviews

[@Mnemoniforma9.00]

6:26 Could have sworn I heard a Diamond Authority harpsichord in the background...

[@robbycooper6787]

robotniks robotisizer reminds me of the cybermen

[@joshhamburger5451]

SatAM was Cyberpunk as fuck

[@karenbonds264]

Okay, so, here's my idea for a demo/first mission of my hypothetical game. This game, which I simply call : Mobius: a World Beyond ( be wary, it's a long one) The game starts just before the Days of Fury (The one with the Xorda and the Gene Bombs) You begin as a Human who signed up for an Experimental Project involving confiscated Xorda technology to create super soldiers by merging Human DNA with those of an Animal. You are instructed to give your name, select gender, what Element(s) you wish to control. (Yes, there is an Element Matchup Mechanic in this game, and each with a exclusive ability tree.) Finally, you pick which animal you want to be. And trust me, the Character Customization in Mobius will make Forces look barebones. You can pick from all assortments of animals, from Mammals, to Avians(Birbs), to reptiles and amphibians, fish and other sea life, even insects and arachnids! (I was thinking if you pre-ordered the game, you can also pick Mobiosuar, Echidna, And Dragon as bonuses!) for this example, let's say you're playing as a Male, Flame and Normie Elemental Wolf named Gadget. After you make your selections, you are led by a group of scientists who place you in a capsule-like structure to begin the Biomerge. Just as the excruciating metamorphosis begins, the Xorda arrives, and begins to unleash the Gene Bombs on the planet. The shockwaves cause the building you're in to collapse, crushing the scientists beneath the rubble. The torturous transformation continues until you finally lose consciousness. There you stay, changing along with the ruined Earth, but you remain trapped in time, never waking, for thousands of years. In those thousands of years, a tyrant ruled the reborn world, challenged only by a group of Mobian rebels known as the Freedom Fighters. For almost nine years, the mad overlord, Dr.Ivo Robotnik, have been pestered by the Freedom Fighters time and time again, until he comes across an ancient log that tells of an incredibly powerful creatures that slumber undistubed since the time of Ancients. If Robotnik could obtain just one of these legendary creatures, not even the Freedom Fighters will stop him. The Freedom Fighters learn about this plan, and two of their best are off on a race against time to see who can secure the legendary being first. And that is where your story, your adventure in a world beyond, begins... The game begins in the Mobian Badlands, and two Mobians were watching Swatbots guard the entrance to strange ruins. The two Mobian Freedom Fighters, Sonic the Hedgehog(in Classic form) and Sally Acorn easily dispatches the robots. Once inside the ruins, the duo split up to find the creature's whereabouts.You take control of Sonic in a tutorial for movement controls and object interaction. Once you finish this (option to skippable) tutorial, Sonic meets up wit Sally to discover a room where the creature is in. Unfortunately, this was a trap set up by Robotnik himself to not just obtain the creature, but to also capture the two best Freedom Fighters! Sonic attempts to keep the Swatbots off Sally as she uses Nicole to hack into a control panel to try to awaken the creature. Robotnik has enough and fires a portable robotizizer at Sally, who Sonic shoves out the way so the beam hits a metal wall. The resulting explosion knocks the two Freedom Fighters unconscious, but Nicole has already finished hacking the controls. Three guesses who the Ancient creature actually is. (Note: In this game, I made three paths with an additional branch. You start out on the Freedom Fighters path 1 in your first playthrough, and as you progress through the story, new Save Files which will let you play as new custom characters for Neutral and Villain paths will open up, each with their own perks.) You finally start to wake up , but the Merger gives you one last painful boost to your changed body. In blind pain and desperation, you used that boost to completely obliterate Robotnik's Swatbots in a battle tutorial and send the dictator flying far from the ruins. Once you burn out that energy, you once again fall unconscious just as Sonic and Sally regain theirs. Sally is astonished by the carnage and wonders where the creature went. Sonic, however, finds it lying on the floor of the ruins, and is shocked by its appearance. The ruins, due to the massive outpouring of energy from the awakening, stats to collapse, and the Freedom Fighters, with the creature in tow, flees the ruins just in time. The duo decided that this mission was a success, and heads back to Knothole to learn more about their new "creature"... You wake up in a strange new place with a blue hedgehog-like creature next to your bedside. Naturally, you freak out, falling out of bed in the process. The hedgehog, who introduces himself as Sonic, attempts to help you up, but then you noticed that your hand was no longer a Human one. You notice a mirror nearby, and you stumble towards it, staring back at you is... (The Second part of Character Customization starts here. This time, whatever animal you picked in the first half will be the Mobian animal you are. You can pick Body type, eye shape and colors, fur color, you can make your own markings, stripes, pick different features, etc. you can also pick starting accessories. Like gloves, shoes, and for example, glasses. After getting a good look at your new form, your screams alert two other characters, Tails and Boomer/Rotor. The two Freedom Fighters are ecstatic that you're finally awake after taking you in two days ago, and when they find out you were once a Human from thousands of years ago, Boomer practically loses his mind in excitement. Before you could get acquainted with your new friends, a transmission from Antoine warns the Freedom Fighters of a powerful Badnik that is dangerously close to Knothole. Tails, Boomer/Rotor, and Sonic head out, but befre you can come along, Sonic tells you to stay in the HQ and try to get yourself situated. Meanwhile, The AI, Nicole, welcomes you and invites you on a Tu-Tour-ial of The Freedom Fighter Base. (Note: You can save either on the fly, or in your room) Once you finish in the main control room, a Transmission from Sonic tells you that the badnik is more of a handful than he thought. He doesn't want to do this, but he needs your help. He's battling the robot in Great Forest Clearing 1, and Nicole can help you gear up for the battle. Once you get your items, you make your way towards Great Forest. You try to get a better vantage point from a tall tree, and once you do, you get a grand scope of how big this game's world will be. You can spot mountain ranges, what appears to be a floating Island, and a grey city tarnishing the pristine world. Nicole explains that city wasn't always that way, it was a beautiful city once, using technology to coexist and enhance nature, that is, until Robotnik happened. An explosion in a nearby clearing alerts you to an ensuing battle, and you hurry over. Three out of four Freedom Fighters were out of commission, with only Sonic left to take on the large machine solo, but even he's not without his fair share of injuries. You distract the Badnik into targeting you instead, and the robot recognize you as the "Ancient Being." You and Sonic team up to battle the robot, but once the Badnik reaches half health, it swats you and Sonic aside, and the droid closes in on you. In desperation, you inexplicably attack the machine with a strange power, the power of your Element(s) this leads into a Tutorial Curbstomp battle on how to use your Elemental powers. The Badnik is defeated at the end, and Sonic commends your skill. He asks you if you want to be a Freedom Fighter, and since you have no knowledge of this new world, you guess it wouldn't hurt to team up with them for a while. You agree to be a Freedom Fighter, and Sonic is happy you're a member of the team. Now, what's your first mission as a new official Freedom Fighter? Help Sonic carry Antoine, Boomer/Rotor, and Tails' unconscious bodies back to base. Once you get back to Freedom Fighter HQ, you meet Sally Acorn after returning from gathering medicinal berries. You're given an Exposition Dump about the Freedom Fighters and Robotnik, and you let Sally know you're going to give it your all to fuel the fight for freedom! Thus ends Mobius Mission # 0, prologue. (The first Mobius Arc will span the first 50 issues of the comic series some issues that were just filler will be replaced with missions based on certain Sonic SatAM episodes. Let me know what you think about this!)

[@lukegamerzw]

I guess in Sonic Adventure 2,Sonic Heroes,Shadow the Hedgehog (2005),Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) it was explained that Shadow the Hedgehog might be the first Mobian non-Xorda experiment created by Gerald Robotnik somewhere in the 1950's at Space Colony Ark invanded by G.U.N soldiers who killed Modern Ivo Robotnik's/Eggman's grandpa who also killed his granddaughter Maria Robotnik. It's hard to expletely and precisely say if creators of Shadow professor Gerald Robotnik and Black Doom have something in common with Xorda Alien race(Archie Sonic Comics) that their bodies were dissected by Julian Robotnik's,Snively Robotnik's ancestors from the past (it was in XXI century-nowadays) I know that Hope Kintobor she was involved in it. Currently since 1993 Sonic cannon started to get little bit too messy and too chaotic to these days since 2017 after release of Sonic Forces and Sonic IDW Comics including mobile Sonic Dash Forces mobile series and more.

[@lukegamerzw]

Who me? Well Sega(19 years have passed since Sega Dreamcast support cancellation) stopped doing video game consoles back when they quitted their hardware business for good probably forever,but I have no worries just life goes on(live and learn I guess especially speaking of Sega and Sonic Team mistakes(even if Sonic current games aren't that great after 2001 that ended up with very chaotic and messed up cannonical storytelling including lack of spin-offs after Sega Dreamcast era and Sega Game Gear era such as for instance Sonic Shuffle and Sonic Drift currently since 2008(Sonic mobile games series such as Sonic Unleashed mobile,Sonic Jump,Sonic Dash series,Sonic Runners,Sonic Olympic games-modern casual mobile gaming even if they have modern Arcade machines only in Japan region locked exclusives)they focused not only on third party(they have no more Sega Enterprises,Sega Technical Institute just Sega Atlus,Sega Sammy and Sega Hardlight instead-it's no longer the same old company that used to know in the past) created in 1940 during the World War 2 rather just brand new company(pure capitalistic darwinism that only the stronger ones only survive especially old console wars from the 90's that companies for instance like Sega,Panasonic,Atari didn't survive in the 90's and after the 90's of 20th century when 21st century had begun(no longer as first party developers) Sonic games in 2002-2004 just in early 2000's so to speak) life is not easy we have to work hard and struggle to achieve something literally anything from our lives) legends such as Sonic-like games from the 90's never dies they live forever in our minds permamently. Fangame project lore storyline telling of yours just sounds interesting anyway.

[@bowserbreaker2515]

I really love SatAM. Not just for inspiring Archie, but it really was committed to what it wanted to be. And even if Mike Pollock is my favorite Eggman, Jim Cummings is still the voice I hear in comics. It also has Sonic's most impressive voice cast. Jaleel White, Kath Soucie, Jim Cummings, Charlie Adler, Rob Paulsen, and that's not even everyone. Rest in peace, Ben Hurst. You will be missed.

[@michaelrodriguez2829]

Steviews in the cartoon they're called the Freedom Fighters

[@jmiester25]

Absolutely agree. Sonic SatAM is THE BEST product of the entire Sonic franchise. Bar none, nothing will top it, because SEGA continuously reinvents itself and fails every single goddamn time. Go back to the original well and fuckin use the lore established.

[@edgardeitz2784]

Crossover time! Consider the following dimensional cross fusion - * *Sonic SatAM / Fleetway STC / Archie SatAM retconned back into original show* - original story * *Megaman original series* - an obvious crossover that CAN work, having LOADS of potential... * *The Raccoons* - when compared to SatAM and Sonic Underground combined, there are similarities (except Lisa coreesponds to Amy Rose) * *The World of David the Gnome* - links to Wizards as a fanstsy / mythology deal; likes to Sonic due to "Nature being the true protagonist" as stated in the second season's intro sequence * *Wizards (Ralph Bakshi animated movie)* - *another* consequence of the event that rid Earth / Mobius of humanity *Dungeons and Dragons animated series season 4* - included with "Wizards" *My Little Pony 1st Gen (Sunbow prod. / Marvel Prod. )* - part of "Dungeons and Dragons" More development will come when I think of something...

[@biohazardbin]

what are you going on about

[@scm64entertainment44]

Hey! Nothing wrong with sonic underground I like it and I will never forget about it

[@bigbluebuttonman1137]

I'm also disappointed that it never went beyond its 2 seasons. ...That ending...I wonder if it was a SATam take on Metal Sonic...that would have been great.

[@Dommie222]

It wasn't Metal Sonic; according to the show's main writer, Ben Hurst, it was Naugus, who was supposed to be Snively's partner until his inevitable betrayal, in which he'd then become the main villain.

[@ExtremeWreck]

Sonic Forces is Japanese Sonic SATAM? Wow, & they say only Americans mess up works from other countries.

[@michaelrodriguez2829]

When are you going to do the Sonic Underground video Steviews

[@bluewulv]

I honestly hated how much they downplayed Tails. They should have had him help Sonic in missions fighting bots and also being strategic and brilliant.

[@Nightweaver1]

Tails was going to get a larger role as Sonic was going to train him in S3, according to late writer Ben Hurst. It was all storyboarded out, but of course got scrapped when the show was canceled for Power Rangers. I actually liked how they showed Tails as the 10-year-old kid he actually was, rather than some super-competent inventor and child prodigy par excellance.

[@FrostTheHobidon]

This did take place in the 90s Sega o Japan never gave Tails a Personality, Sega of America on their cartoons had to do so.

[@smithandsuperdeadeyeofthew823]

If sega would've give sonic team more time on the game it wouldn't have been poorly executed

[@mytruepower2]

Yeah. This is as good as Sonic and Robotnik ever got. You mention Robotnik being able to build a robot army with ease. Not only that, but he actually imprisons small, helpless animals inside deadly robots, presumably using them as components of those robots against their will; even in the games themselves. When you think about it, that's some pretty horrific stuff. It's as bad as the Borg. You've gotta be really twisted to do stuff like that, and it just feels wrong for someone whose actions are that twisted, to be essentially a joke character, to say nothing of how much less impressive it makes Sonic's victories over him, even in the games themselves. In this cartoon, Robotnik could still sometimes be played for laughs, but he was also legitimately menacing, to the point where his horrifying roboticizing practices actually seemed to fit with his character type, and every small victory against him felt significant and hard-earned. It was the best possible way to go with the character. That said, if they wanted to make him *primarily* a goofy character, they could have done that convincingly by just removing the animal-imprisoning element entirely, which is what "Adventures" and the recent movie did, and that does still solve some of the problems I've always had with the depiction of the character in the games.

[@Idazmi7]

"Ooh-hooo! Good one! You are catching _fire_ Thomas. Speaking of heat, I see you've taken a lover. Does she have a name, or should we call her *collateral damage?!"* - Ivo Robotnik. Sounds like something he'd say in SatAM. Jim Carrey's Robotnik is - despite his goofy quirks - still quite menacing due to how unrelentingly *_insane_* he is. It's incredibly easy to see how a man like him could get to the point where he decides that taking away free will by turning everyone into robots is a *_good_* idea. That, and he can actually do damage instead of being a totally ineffectual joke villain.

[@mytruepower2]

@@Idazmi7 Yes. I think you're right. I can picture SatAM Robotnik saying something like that. He'd say it more slowly, and with a deeper tone of voice, but it could really work that way. It's very different from the way he is in the games. SatAM will probably always be my favorite, but I love that movie too.

[@Idazmi7]

@@mytruepower2 _"(...) It's very different from the way he is in the games. (..)"_ Is it _really,_ though? E-102 Gamma proves that Robotnik is still imprisoning sapient creatures in Sonic Adventure. Like you said, you've gotta be really twisted to intentionally use helpless, intelligent creatures as living batteries to power combat robots that kill and/or Roboticize their own friends and family (that's how it works in the games). It *is* as bad as the Borg. Robotnik is sick, and that sickness is what makes him scary and dangerous. That danger is what makes heroes like Sonic necessary. If you don't give Robotnik that dangerous edge, Sonic isn't a hero: he's just beating up on the mentally disabled for no reason.

[@mytruepower2]

@@Idazmi7 Gamma could have had a good plotline. So many things lined up so well. The only element that just did not work was their depiction of Robotnik himself. Again, I think the animal-imprisoning thing *works quite well* if Robotnik himself seems evil and cruel enough to be capable of it, and Sonic Adventure Robotnik just doesn't seem that way. Waving his arms and shouting that his robots are "dummies, dummies, dummies," for instance... It this scary in any sense? I think not. Everything else you said, about how helpful the animal-imprisoning is at setting a threatening mood, I do agree with. But that mood is killed if the man behind the curtain, so to speak, seems more like a clown than a threat (again, Jim Carrey as Robotnik *does* still seem threatening, so I think roboticizing could world for him in a future movie, but it's different in the games.) When I said I had a problem with game-Robotnik, this is what I meant. His actions and his depiction in the game feel at odds with each other. One evokes the worst kind of evildoer, and the other is a joke character. It would be like if Dedede from the Kirby games pulled off a Mortal Kombat fatality. It's just not so believable.

[@mytruepower2]

@@Idazmi7 On a related note, this is also one of my problems with Sega's use of the word "Eggman," to describe him (except in the movie.) It's used by Sonic as a means of poking fun at Robotnik's shape. So why would he adopt this mocking name as a title for himself? (In Sonic Adventure 2 onward.) Isn't that kind of like introducing yourself as "Lieutenant Lamebrain?" If he respects himself so little, how can I believe he really wants to hurt people or take over anything? Now, I said this wasn't a problem in the movie, and I mean it. In the movie, the name "Eggman" is a reference to his egg-shaped drones, so rather than being a dig at his appearance, it refers to the nature and source of his power. It makes far more sense that he would adopt this title in the movie continuity, because it's literally a description of what makes him powerful.

[@12majixajinxixcolorchartdi25]

Oh no this video has a play error, I can't watch it :(

[@warioland523]

One game I think that had the idea of a world in chaos and did it correctly was believe it or not Sonic Unleashed. I know what you are thinking "But Robotnik didn't take over the world" Are you sure? To me it seems he did. Let's see. He lured Sonic into a trap. Amplified the negative energies of the Chaos Emeralds turning Sonic into a Dark Gaia like version of himself (however Sonic's good will still allows him to maintain control despite his transformation), ejects him into space where falls to the planet's surface, fires a laser that rips the planet apart, has his own lair that you go through as a symbol of his conquest and the planet is now swarming with Dark Gaia Minions as well as his robotic servants. I felt the stakes were higher in Unleashed and even though Robotnik wasn't the final boss I still consider him the main antagonist as he was the one that released Dark Gaia in the first place. The only reason Dark Gaia hit Robotnik is because he wasn't able to control the dark god anymore in it's complete state where as he had some limited control over the minions as they are often siding with his Egg Fighter model Badniks. And this was also considered the first solo 3-D Sonic game where Sonic was on his own. And I mean in the gameplay sense. He's the only playable character. Sure he has allies but he's the one doing all the work and taking down Robotnik's operations in Unleashed and undoing his handywork.

[@warlordjulianrobotnik5741]

Awakening a god doesn't mean he ruled it. The god simply was awoken by his reckless actions. That's like saying Lex Luthor defeated Superman because he woke up Doomsday.

[@andreyofdoom]

Just saw this after the movie trailer. Looks like that's not at all the same direction either.

[@ramizshould]

awesome🙂😍

[@villelater2708]

The game that actually feels like sonic satam is an Xbox 360 game called fuse...

[@AceRuiner1979]

I'm genuinely curious about this, what makes it like SatAM?

[@villelater2708]

@@AceRuiner1979 well it has stealth parts during missions and each team member has a unique skill and one of the levels you get to destroy a power generator just like the show and the mech bosses are like Robotnik meets Ironman...i havent played in awhile but it made by EA and Insomniac games

[@Baffle145]

Forces was good but not the best. Also I thought you meant Snivley lol.

[@sonicmastersword8080]

There’s a way to do it; but they rushed it. In Sonic SatAm, they never finished the fight. Season 3 never happened (fans are desperately attempting to complete it themselves). As for why the characters were so well done, they were treated as humans. Only occasionally did you see their cartoonish qualities, otherwise it was the Soviet Union at its peak vs a small rebellion.

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

It’s a reverse Aosth to Sonic satam

[@kavya1638]

SatAM only, credit is due where credit is earned. Sonic Forces is garbage. I hope SEGA of Japan realizes that. Fans WILL forgive SEGA of Japan IF they renounce this game and actually makes a proper SatAM based game. SEGA of America still owns the rights and can legally strip Penders (or cancel) his license to use the SatAM crew in the comics.

[@patrickhughes288]

And spectacularly failed.

[@joshthesquishy7142]

sonic bandicoot9196 stfu

[@DrFazbear]

Me:liked sonic forces Everyone else:hated it

[@EddieKyteABCDEFG12345678910]

I have a question: Did Tails touch Sally's blue knee-high boots or was it all part of the show?

[@edward18517]

Eh, I'd say Eggman in Adventure 2 gets pretty close to the SatAM badassery.

[@jasondobbins9735]

Don’t forget the Archie comics inspired by The series

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Way better than sonic x

[@sugarsmile7852]

Can you make review for sonic boom Season 1&2 the comedy in this cartoon is better than the game

[@grandemeraldanims1721]

Sonic underground is good

[@hiuouefqef1566]

I think you need to play more Sonic games because you're description of the characters from the games doesn't seem to match. Especially what you said about Eggman.

[@sugarsmile7852]

Hey make review for sonic boom tv show season 1 & 2 the comedy in this cartoon is better than the games

[@prufan]

Still doesn't make it very good.

[@slapshotjack9806]

This has no resemblance to the cartoon at all

[@prufan]

Underground wasn't garbage.

[@Lindsay-nx5sv]

I didn't mind Underground, but I felt that that the song numbers were a big time killer.

[@prufan]

Really? Personally, I thought the songs were one of my favourite things about the show.

[@melissabrooks1392]

7:48 is that sonic exe

[@Lindsay-nx5sv]

I believe the glowing eyes at 7:42 was Metal Sonic. There is an interview with the makers of the show that states they belong to Nagus, but that is bunk. the eyes are too big and the shape of the nose is too round.

[@yellowpig1026]

yeah that's what i thought too

[@justinw7323]

This show didn't have a proper ending. They could have restored everyone back to their normal states and rebuild the city

[@jasonraby8302]

And horrible gameplay

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Dude Robotnik is just a generic 90s cartoon villain with a bland af personality in satam, he's not as cool as comic or adventure eggman nor is he as entertaining as funny eggman and aosth robotnik. It sounds more like your trying way to hard to make him and this show seem cooler then it actually is. Satam was ok but the fanboys are obnoxious

[@prufan]

Just YOUR opinion.

[@billyboleson2830]

To be honest, the only good thing I think satam did was spawn the bizzare comics. Season 3 of Sonic X shits all over Satam and I mostly despise x. I don't get the hype around satam

[@ultrairrelevantnobody1862]

Ever heard of a good cartoon for kids?

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

In sonic satam Robotnik doesn’t go after sonic that much which is very disappointing. I’m not saying sonic satam sucks but, it didn’t do as much as it should have.

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Larry Hughes No thanks. I’m not going to play lost world especially considering the space jam rejects in that game known as the Deadly Six.

[@joshhamburger5451]

@@crashban4t.f.s.b783 Bro they do look like Space Jam aliens lmfao

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Sonic satam could have been the best sonic cartoon if it had more of Sonic fighting Robotnik and if they saved more freedom fighters. The real best sonic cartoon in my opinion is the adventures of sonic the hedgehog.

[@solangecastillo376]

Aosth suck

[@obd9660]

Why does everyone praise Sat A.M for having light and dark moments and tones, but hate Forces for having the same things? I honestly don't understand.😒

[@michaelrodriguez2829]

Because they don't care

[@obd9660]

@@michaelrodriguez2829 Don't care about what?

[@rollingirlmp3]

OBD 96 Because satam knew when to take itself seriously and not. Forces tells us Sonic’s been tortured and that Eggman has basically taken over the world, but Sonic and the other characters don’t take it seriously. If they don’t care, why should we?

[@ShakShak1999]

@@rollingirlmp3 you are 100% right

[@michaelrodriguez2829]

@@ShakShak1999 nope, not true.

[@smokey41]

No wonder Steve Reviews deleted this crap. Just more excuses to bow to this boring cartoon.

[@blazingsonic]

Thumbnail Sonic: Hmmm no, we didn't do it like classic me did, I mean rings don't even power my boost in this game, I mean that right there was like the closest thing to using a ring as power up as I'm ever gonna get! And made Knuckles the leader? Why not Amy she's like the the next best thing we have in place of Sally... Tails should have totally be our tech guy.... I wonder what Mike will sound like if he gave Eggman a metallic voice, guess we'll never know..