SONIC SUCKS??

Coney comes in with a REALLY GOOD Facts & Opinion episode, this time featuring more FGC drama, the quality of games if you suck or lose, and of course, if Sonic the Hedgehog is a good game series.
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[@adrianplacido5680]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO CONTENT MAN TEACH ME WHAT MY PERSONALITY SHOULD BE

[@erhanjpg1467]

We can’t have our own opinions. We have to rely on others to tell us what we like or not!

[@EllieMiller510]

Let your mind be molded by the influencer man!

[@Dippy0615]

Let the influencer influence!

[@cptnqusr]

Join the parasocial borg!

[@noahwoods9871]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I HOPE MY PERSONALITY CAN BE CYNICAL TODAY I LOVE IT WHEN IM ALLOWED TO BE CYNICAL

[@hoobastank6499]

If motion controls had been around since the beginning of games, like buttons, people would embrace em today more than buttons. They’d be more advanced

[@CONEYZZ]

OOO THAT'S A GOOD ONE

[@hoobastank6499]

coneySHAKE

[@EllieMiller510]

In that alternate universe, buttons would be the new thing and everyone would think they’re weird. Good one!

[@andremorrison7626]

WAIT A MINUTE! That's a good one!

[@rubberduck8096]

@@hoobastank6499 I'll shake on that.

[@etabit6907]

"Are you a member of QAnon? Do you believe everything you read on the internet?" The best intro to any KZbin video ever.

[@telethia6428]

Tetris 99, Pac-man 99, and Mario 35 are the best battle royale games. They're simple for anyone to understand, quick to play, and are consistently addictive

[@EllieMiller510]

Until you and run into the guy who has 1000 hours in the game

[@obese_duck5954]

@@EllieMiller510 you don’t?

[@EllieMiller510]

@@obese_duck5954 nah, I probably have like 20 hours in tetris 99

[@GCplus9162]

SHAKE?

[@potato2769]

What about Minecraft Hunger Games?

[@AegisREDflector]

You know funny content man has infected you when you read his video title and go, "TRUUUUUUUUUUE!"

[@twin_rivers921]

TRUEING

[@carsonbyck1232]

This video made me leave q anon

[@zeromythosver.]

Based(!) and TRUE(?)

[@StarlightChirp]

BASED

[@jakh]

The real facts are the friends we made along the way

[@gwabes7001]

The real fact is that this joke is way too dead

[@LtCdrXander]

@@gwabes7001 I couldn't agree more

[@scp0460gdfan]

The real facts are the SaNiCs we made along the wAy

[@treedude4246]

The memes around silksong is the best example of the issue with gamer culture People get mad when games are rushed but also get angry when video games take there time. It isnt suprising there is a culture of crunch around it.

[@kidbuumer4780]

I think it was revealed way too early like Cyberpunk, MP4, BOTW2, etc. And from what I know the dev team has been radio silent, besides two April fools posts on reddit. Even just a “hey COVID fucked us over among other huge bugs so we don’t know when we’ll finish,” would be nice. But also yeah gamer/crunch culture sucks, although I hope the majority of Silksong memes are self aware like Mother 3 and F-Zero memes around directs but knowing the internet they probably aren’t

[@Meta_Break]

I think the issue isnt "We want our game, and we want it now" i think its more just people wanting to see more previews of a game. A way to tell the players that it still is being made

[@lettuce674]

@@kidbuumer4780 haha, bugs. like in the game. because it's about bugs. haha

[@Grgrqr]

@@kidbuumer4780 yeah, this is pretty much the reason games are overhyped and rushed in the first place

[@gamecubeking]

@@kidbuumer4780 I feel Silksong had to be announced early or else people would be like "What the fuck is Team Cherry doing taking so long on the Hornet DLC?" People would possibly be bitching more if they only thought it was a DLC.

[@Crumplestilskin]

Proximity Voice Chat is the funniest thing to ever grace the world of online multiplayer. The joys of hearing little Timmy screaming his little heart out as I loot him is something I’ll never forget. It can only enhance an online experience.

[@ballisticboo7808]

Based

[@echosoundz0324]

true i wish more games did it

[@Fusiondax1]

It really depends what type of person you are. Some people feed on the tears of others, but some people want a serious mature match and get very annoyed when little Timmy is being a bitch...

[@zeromythosver.]

I wish more people used it too. I don’t even know how it works but apparently it’s been in Dark Souls for a while? Can you IMAGINE hearing gankers flip s*** after getting 1v2’d, or hearing minimal equip load katana spammers break their hand on their desk slamming it after parrying them? I so wish this was an experience I’d had.

[@nevertwice5021]

Based

[@RedFoxLevel101]

IP is THE MOST IMPORTANT factor when determining the success of a game, particularly for fighting games. Nintendo could release brawl 2 tomorrow and it would be in the top 3 best selling fighting games of all time.

[@fishboy9123]

Coney: I love life Also Coney: When I kill things it brings me joy

[@austinsetser6081]

Twitter will always have worse opinions than youtube because discoverability/engagement is higher for tweets than videos

[@kip_c]

Coney says games weren't addicting 10 years ago when World of Warcraft came out in 2004

[@carsondubs]

He's still at the point where he thinks that 2004 was this decade

[@ditto_inc4138]

The popularity of chess proves that a game does not have to be mechanically complex to be strategically complex. Chess has 6 pieces with one move each, yet is is extremely deep and interesting. Meanwhile some games have hundreds of characters with tons of mechanics and are boring as heck. Game devs should be focusing on the base concept of a game rather than how many mechanics there are in it

[@ramblincapuchin9075]

Not to curb your idiom too hard, the example you used about simplicity by design can be applied to why sonic mania is good Wade to far away from the tried and true and you'll get caught in the undertow of either pandering or creativity overload. Sonic is a shell of himself trying every meme to convince you that he's cool And then there's balan wonderland, proof positive that it's not just Sega that stifles talent. Yuji Naka is a one hit wonder

[@griff8514]

Tower Defense games are an unexplored genre. I mean, in most Tower Defense games there is very little actual gameplay. There's very little strategy change nor high stakes in these games, causing this feeling of "Did I win yet? Did I win yet?" that deletes any motivation to keep playing.

[@benjaminsantangelo996]

Background music is the single most ubiquitous form of psychological manipulation in modern times. It tells you how you should feel in any given situation, to either enhance the effect of a narrative, or so that you think in a certain way. Inversely, if done wrong, it can completely shatter immersion. Then it's just funny.

[@viper64jr]

“Fighting games have homework mode” ughhhh I got so sad when I heard that... it’s so true.

[@pika273]

You can tell where someone’s from by how much they hate spring

[@moosesues8887]

Gaymer?2

[@Grgrqr]

Spring is still better than summer

[@marzipancutter8144]

@@Grgrqr Not if you have EVEN BETTER genes that allow you to take the heat. I basically never get too hot so I love the summer.

[@Grgrqr]

@@marzipancutter8144 more bugs in summer though. Probably since I live in a more rural area

[@marzipancutter8144]

@@Grgrqr True, but again depends on where you live. Edit: I've been notified that apparently I also get stung by mosquitoes way below average. Might have something to do with it.

[@zchilly7775]

Mario kart Wii is the best Mario Kart, It has the best selection of tracks, it has intuitive motion controls, and it has a thriving community of people who play the game to this day. Mario kart Wii is comparable to Super smash bros melee because the fun comes from how different the mechanics and gameplay is from all of the other games. You have zippers, tricks were introduced, and inside drifting bikes alongside wheelies. It has the best modding capabilities, and thousands of custom tracks have been made for people to play. It changed the entire mario kart formula, and is easily the best I will admit the graphics are worse than Double dash

[@ballisticboo7808]

TRUE

[@ShadowL8er]

Mario Kart Wii is just more fun to drive in the any other Mario Kart. I have way more fun in MKWii time trials then any other game cause of the depth of simply driving the tracks

[@navierstrks]

Nostalgia causing older games to be someone’s favorite game does not make someone’s take bad

[@Conellu]

Coney's one of those channels where I drop everything to watch.

[@mr.satirical9066]

Same

[@logancampbell5462]

FACT

[@potato2769]

true

[@rizatitanium1819]

Byleth fully earned a spot on the Smash roster. Three Houses was a phenomenal game that added countless improvements to the FE franchise. Westerners/Smash Fans are allowing bitter memories of Corrin to cloud their judgement.

[@StarlightChirp]

nah byleths trailer fucking sucked and that's a FACT

[@HamsterMaster8]

I got a fact for you coney Crossover events (endgame smash etc.) have ruined people's expectations for individual properties. Too many people believe there has to be a big crossover in everything thing play or watch, and it can't exist independently. Especially in stuff thag big companies produce.

[@איתיפדרובסקי]

Sorry for the weird name, just call me Feder. Indie games are superior to AAA games most of the time because they have more heart out into them. The creators pour their heart and soul into these projects, and they mostly don’t care for the money as much as they do for the experience, which makes the games feel more personal and heartfelt.

[@tazlad2423]

Couch co-op games are not dying because of online multiplayer, but because the people that preferred the experience of being in person and hanging out together have all grown up.

[@goodenough407]

It's possible for videogames to make up for bad gameplay by having other things be good (music, story, characters, looks, etc).

[@EllieMiller510]

Very true

[@potato2769]

What do you mean by bad gameplay? If the gameplay isn't fun or rewarding, then the other things probably wouldn't make up for it. If the gameplay is bad because it either gets repetitive after a while, or it drags on too long at certain points, then the other things would most likely make up for it.

[@goodenough407]

@@potato2769 while you are right about it dragging on, it does feel worth playing though (at least for me). I really wish the types of games I'm talking about had good gameplay, but they don't and that sucks, but it doesn't make them not worth playing. Edit: also sometimes the reward for gameplay is getting to the other stuff like the story.

[@Praspian]

opinion: Skill-based match making (outside of ranked) ruins and in some cases can kill games. It makes it impossible for above-average players to sit back and enjoy games casually, since everyone else in the lobby is of the same skill level and thus has to try very hard to win. It also takes away the drive to improve from newer players, since they don't have a reason to improve when everyone in their lobbies are just as bad as they are. If you want to fight people of the same skill level, go to ranked.

[@nostylemyles3456]

The game industry is becoming more remakes/remasters/reboots and less new IPs (for example Bugsnax) with graphical quality being the only “innovation”. This in turn is feeding back into the three/re’s and big developers are scared of making new IP’s and when they do, their lack of innovation leads to a flop, scaring them away even more.

[@CC_-pn2og]

When he said we are smarter than those guy on twitch, I was like “TRUE! TRUE!”

[@johnpagano3127]

The best story based game will always and forever be better then the best completely competitive game. The experience in a story based game is more memorable and leaves a longer impact on the player. I remember how I felt after I finished Xenoblade chronicles more vividly then the time I climbed in league. I remember the friends and the interactions I had with them while climbing, but I can’t tell you what my kda was at the end of my final gold promo game

[@nerdwiz6065]

Celeste has barely any story compared to its amount of gameplay, a better example would be the last of us, oneshot, or soma. Second a game can be not story based and also not competetive. TF2, doom, payday 2, and binding of isaac aren't popular for being competetive or having a great story.

[@megabumbusta2746]

In competitive games there's a chance to make friends with real people, not 1's and 0's. The bonds of true friendship are far more memorable and impactful, obviously. As long as you reach out for them. even in the most greasy communities there's bound to be at least 1 person who'd be your friend.

[@ballisticboo7808]

@@megabumbusta2746 true

[@potato2769]

The best game would be a game that is competitive and story based. Triple A game studios need to start thinking outside of the box more.

[@Chill_1ng]

"STEAMING VIDEO GAME OPINIONS" Gosh I love CONEY

[@ZephyCluster]

Video games that have online competition as either their only draw or their biggest draw will always end up with a toxic community. Especially if it makes you pair up with randos in a team battle. The 'every man for himself' mentality + anonymity on the internet makes toxicity 99% inevitable.

[@FatedTim]

People like to rag on sonic (reasonable so) about the quality of their video games. HOWEVER, most current gen games face similar issues. They sell well because they have a marketable/known ip, rather than the quality of their product. Most games released by big corporations fall into this Sonic problem, but most consumers still buy them anyways. Patches promising fixes that never come, rabid fans afraid to admit their game is bad. Will the modern gaming climate ever address this problem, probably not

[@merkmywords]

The only reason TF2 isn't the most popular shooter right now is because the marketplace is saturated with new games trying to be the next big hit; it's dividing player bases as people look for the perfect shooter when it already exists.

[@YoungSimbaFGC]

Party games are the most competitive games despite the whole premise being to have fun and not be competitive to that degree - my boy Mike

[@OddMeterMusic]

Pokémon has one of the best competitive entry points of any franchise due to its ability to create nostalgia with characters while also keeping the audience in with varied gameplay due to the vast amount of mons. Also, the existence of shiny hunting, nuzlocke, and multiple battle formats (OU, VGC, draft league etc...) allow for typical casual players to dip into the competitive scene. And the community for competitive Pokémon is much less toxic than FGC or smash. That being said, the story mode fucking sucks.

[@Grgrqr]

I don’t know... I always found the combat too simple. Probably because the story mode sucks

[@bobothechimpanzee]

People who say “Paper Mario should have stuck to the same formula as the original games for the whole series” are wrong. People *do* get bored of the same formula no matter how appealing it may seem at first. Just look at Pokemon: the first couple of games were great, fresh experiences and great games for their time, but after 25 years of the same formula with minimal changes between games, fans are begging for something new.

[@Chillin-jg8vg]

Paper Mario is a spin off games it shouldn't be like the mainline Mario series I meant what Mario spinoffs like the Main line games. That's why I like Sonic and Zelda since they change the gameplay formula up Majors Mask with the different masks abilities and Sonic's different gameplay formula.

[@CoachMK71]

Nostalgia is constantly exploited by companies when they are trying to reviatlize a series. In my opinion, that usually goes poorly since the 'nostalgia-ized' new version of the game lets people down. Nostalgia is like looking through rose colored lenses, you can't see the red flags from your childhood favorite due to the fond memories. Revitalizing these games and relying on the nostalgia factor only ruins them and your memories. Sorry for the jumbled thoughts about this. HI CHAT.

[@nerdwiz6065]

Aight Coney this here's a fact: Gameplay in a video game is more important than a story. Gameplay is necessary, a story is not. I want to establish I do not consider visual novels games, more like choose your own adventure books and more akin to novels

[@KingOshi]

ForO: If nintendo games started looking more real like red dead or call of duty, nintendo would lose all of its spark.

[@viniciusgodoy1173]

Not being popular on KZbin for me had became an good option if you dont really need the money, creating a different community, or trying to bring something to a audience can be amazing. Cuz i know a lot of youtubers say that they dont care about numbers, but doing that on the literal way is something already very good. And if u get famous even if your plan was not exacly it, make sure to stay your feet on the ground, just dont get crazy about it, just like how Maxmillian Dood did.

[@helloliahi]

minecraft has a shelf life of forever. bc its a game about creativity, it will never get old and even if it never updated again it would still be a classic. but bc of this, i dont think the "job" of minecraft youtuber will ever go away, atleast not in my lifetime

[@nicholashopper5862]

Fun fact: CONEY is much more easily swayed by peer pressure in his videos than he lets on

[@tangaps]

People in the FGC need to understand that losing is the best way to learn. Many players will trash on beginners for not knowing the game but everyone was there at some point. Even if you had a natural talent for whatever game you are playing, you lost a lot too and because you lost, you learned and got better. Losing should not be an excuse to be toxic to someone, whether you were the one who lost or someone lost to you.

[@knucklesandwich6546]

Video Games shouldn’t be given a ranking, they aren’t like movies or other kinds of products because people get much different value out of a game then out of a movie. That’s why I prefer KZbin reviews because most just talk about what parts of the game they liked and what they didn’t because they aren’t trying to critique the game and give it a number out of 10

[@Chucboris]

I feel like game developers in recent years think that it’s more and more okay to release a literally unfinished product, the most recent example is monster hunter rise with saying oh yeah there is gonna be a patch a month in so if it doesn’t seem finished it’s okay. I feel it’s just hurting games as a whole to allow this to keep happening more and more.

[@eevee3871]

I think that everyone needs to be more open minded to different video game genres. Sure you may not like racing games or 2D platformers, but you have no right to diss those who genuinely like it. One thing is doing it for “the bit” but there is a big difference between a light hearted joke and a serious statement.

[@baslix5976]

cry harder

[@vslazer6728]

JRPG's are way overrated and not at all worth the hype they get. They take a special kind of person to enjoy and most of us are not that kind of person even if we think we are. A lot of times they are slow, boring, and don't make much sense at all in terms of story or gameplay. They boast long play times to try and keep users satisfied but most are so bad that you'll never reach the end and if you do it will be through much complaining and won't be worth it whatsoever.

[@grumpyninja26]

Some people believe that there's an "ultimate console" known as PC when it's more or less just ones comfort to a certain system. If they grew up with xbox they will he more comfortable with those systems and vice versa for Playstation.

[@potato2769]

I think all Pokemon games are boring because you just walk like in Death Stranding except every few minutes you get a random encounter that you don't want which is the equivalent of stepping in dog poop in real life. The only interesting things in terms of gameplay are watching the numbers go up when you level up your Pokemon, spending hours looking for a specific Pokemon that you want (like gambling, but you lose your time instead of your money), and fighting other trainers (which isn't even that fun because you just repeat the same attacks over and over again).

[@Chillin-jg8vg]

I agree Pokemon games are usually the same game I catch some Pokemon and fight the gym leaders and the final boss in a legendary Pokemon. I don't really see myself replaying the Pokemon games since it's the same repeated formula.

[@josiahkrodel4656]

3:30 This may be the main reason so many people have developed adhd. Advertisers are everywhere you look. if you want peace of mind sometimes even your own desktop computer having a shortcut to something, even if you never click it is distracting.

[@josiahkrodel4656]

myself included ; ;

[@homespunheroes]

Video games won't be seriously considered art until modern culture embraces a new definition of art. Pop culture has KILLED any chance of the aesthetic experience of video games to come into the mainstream, and only by changing the way we understand art will video games will be regarded like film and music are. Even though they are art, pop culture won't let it be.

[@Virgil37160]

Guilty Gear Strive's netcode improvements and beta tests are the biggest story in fighting games, and maybe gaming, in the past few years. A Japanese dev listening to and acting on player feedback about a flagship franchise is a big deal.

[@sblade123]

Sonic The Hedgehog is a better *brand* than Mario. Sure, Mario dominates Sonic in the game quality AND quantity department, but Sonic is still nearly as recognized and revered in that context despite his shortcomings. However when you factor in other media such as cartoons, anime, print media, advertising, movies, social media, and even food items, then it becomes clear how much more versatile the Sonic brand is compared to Mario.

[@Chillin-jg8vg]

That's because Sega isn't overprotective of its IP like Mario.

[@fabix11096]

Gyro controls are good, it's the closest we can get to Mouse-like precision within controllers.

[@RaidenSTX]

For thar FGC thing i found out that every person has one fighting game that goes with it like me with skullgirls and smash ultimate and coney with smash brawl and the only way to know which vibes with you is to actually try them

[@zeldrio6079]

I also vibe extremely with Ultimate and Skullgirls. Games like UMVC3 or Rivals are games I like and try to get into, but like you said, they may just not be something I vibe with as much. Just goes to show that everyone has tastes for everything.

[@dylanrivera2550]

People wouldn’t like Melee as much if it’s mechanics weren’t so easily exploitable. One of the only reasons it’s so popular is because of the fidgety mechanics, which were a side effect of the game being rushed.

[@adrianplacido5680]

VR is either the most cringe gimmick of all time or we’re gonna end up waking up every day in a virtual world. I doubt it’s gonna stay a casual kind of in between. People will either drop it very soon or we all end up in Ready Player One.

[@megabumbusta2746]

or the middle option you forgot is that vr games are pretty fun and people enjoy them like any other game

[@reguba3534]

I've been wracking my brain for a hot take but I've now realized video games sometimes just aren't worth having strong opinions on

[@knave6257]

Gameplay+Plot > How the game looks If there's a game with low graphical quality, static+simple backgrounds and low levels of visual character design, one should still be able to enjoy it if the gameplay flows extremely well (an example of the gameplay part would be Celeste) and the plot is very engrossing.

[@jacobwatson5865]

The Smash community often fails to recognize just how amazing of a game smash is in favor of complaining about smaller details. The switch was not built for rollback netcode and would be far too demanding on the system, and while an official competitive smash scene would be awesome, it runs contrary to Nintendo’s family-friendly philosophy. We should instead be grateful that we have a fighting game that will almost certainly never be matched. Ultimate can be played casually or competitively, with unparalleled character variety and incredibly fun platform-fighter gameplay.

[@thedankmemelord3969]

[Fact or Opinion] The next Mario Party shouldn't just be a turn-based board game. Why make a board game collection when your developers are getting burnt out from making like 15 in the span of 25 years. Make it a 4 player competitive 3D platformer. Combine the greatest 3D platforming with random events and maybe minigames every 2-3 minutes, for a unique party game no one else could make.

[@williamm4239]

Submission: Fortnite was never that good of a game. It took what was ok about battle royales, made it for babies, and did their best to get people addicted. It only got worse when epic turned it into nothing but stealing characters from other media to make money off it. I feel personally attacked every time one of my favorite franchises (street fighter, terminator, tron, marvel, star wars, fnaf, ect.) gets added to this addictive cesspool of a cash grab.

[@justinb.452]

Fortnite changed video games forever when everyone saw drake playing with ninja it proved that video games were not just for kids

[@jes3788]

Wasn't the average age aof people who play games generally already like 30 though? The drake thing probably brought a lot of attention to streaming though I agree there

[@dyll_pyckle]

Here's my submission for Fact or Opinion: Coney is one of the most underrated content creators out there. While lots of other streamers put in little to no effort and still get massive numbers, Coney's dedication to the community and quality is extremely impressive. Not to mention his massive role with Panda and how busy he must be raising a child. P.S. subscribe P.P.S. Hi Twitch :) please Prime

[@jomart1121]

Cancel culture is the worst thing ever created, and bringing it to the smash community made it even worse

[@owenburgess1854]

Fact or Opinion: V-tubers are essential to the gaming side of KZbin. It creates toxic fandoms, but it also puts a face on famous youtubers without revealing their identities and makes them easier to live their lives depending on how they approach it.

[@drood100]

Bad match making systems have the potential to kill a game's active player count in the long run, even if total copies sold/downloaded is high.

[@RedTotey]

People who complain that the word “literally” is used incorrectly too much don’t have an understanding of human language. Languages are constantly evolving through human interaction, and if a lot people use a certain word to convey a certain meaning, that word integrates itself into the language along with its new meaning.

[@wail13]

Metroidvanias as a genre have a sickness. Whoever is developing them chronically has no respect for the players' time. When a core mechanic is backtracking that's already going to be testing a lot of people's patience, and yet every metroidvania loves to give you overly long death runs to make sure you play through this area for the fourth or fifth time when it stopped being fun after the second.

[@treestando7322]

the spring part was a big fat FACT an ENLIGHTENED take from the content man

[@FerousFolly]

most people who only listen to one or two genres of music do so because they have low quality audio equipment, and the better your equipment gets the broader your musical tastes will get

[@spagetti9271]

JRPG’s are the worst video game genre. The gameplay it either always turn-based or mashing buttons. Instead of actually having strategy, it’s just equipping a bunch of items in the hellscape that is the menus. The games are always super long but only because the first 20 hours are cutscenes and tutorials. Speaking of which, 95% of JRPG’s tutorials are just walls of text put in front of you. Nobody wants to read when playing a game. That’s what books are for.

[@kyounokaien]

People who hate on fire emblem have almost never played the old games and only know the series from the modern self-insert waifu era.

[@jawwaduddin6798]

for the next video: my policy for video games is i should spend at least an hour playing and having fun for every dollar i spend on it. companies that make games with a five hour campaign and then no endgame content or multiplayer etc have made a bad game, especially when audaciously pricing it at $60. any game that can't be endearing for as many hours as dollars you spent on it is a crap game

[@dukecaliblap]

Comeback mechanics don't belong in fighting games. They reward players for losing and even ones that are actually balanced still feel cheap

[@stone3016]

Video games are just as good at telling stories as any other medium, like books and movies, but they’re not intrinsically better than the others. The only reason why video game storytelling is looked down on is because the medium hasn’t had a chance to develop as much yet.

[@stone3016]

There are plenty of excellently told video game stories, but they’re definitely few and far between because of the relative youth of video gaming.

[@Chillin-jg8vg]

Agreed

[@onenamednatsu5883]

The Kinect was a good idea, but was killed because of developers incapability to make good games for it, and had it been fleshed out more, and given a bigger chance to thrive, and for the technology to advance it would have grown to be larger than virtual reality.

[@Klemens-zy9ir]

In my opinion the Wii U was actually a good console and the reason it got such a negative response is less about the console being bad and more about it lacking creativity and new innovative functions like those that the wii brought to the table. I mean it did have some very interesting games and was just overall fun to use if seen from more of a mutual perspective and less in a way where you try and compare it to the wii, because truth be told, they are different and both good consoles. I wish you a nice day.

[@baslix5976]

it had shit games bro

[@Void_Dawn]

Opinion: Mario party one of the best multiplayer of all time and people who complain about the luck vs skill element don’t realize the genre it’s in, it’s literally a PARTY game

[@SeanMeehan-e5t]

Handheld gaming was great when it first came out, but now is a complete flop because of how accessible games are on mobile, the only reason that the 3DS sold anything was for parents who didn’t want their kid to have a phone yet or diehard Nintendo fans who buy everything that Nintendo puts out.

[@taillord4644]

People need to realize that the character you want in smash will probably have a "specific" moveset that you may actually dislike. Ex. Dante being a sword, gun, and a powered up form "anime" character Or rayman being a shorter min min (Tho I'm still hoping for rayman)

[@zeromythosver.]

I don’t think you’re wrong, but I both: don’t know how unique an opinion this is (very possibly common and just not often stated), and I sorta doubt it’ll be in a vid since it’s Smashposting

[@drediant3526]

Too many people blame circumstances or another person for their short comings. “The match up sucked” or “my controller isn’t working.” I feel like this is starting to become more often and people need to become more proactive. People should learn that things that happen to you are most likely your fault, with some exceptions. If the match up is bad, it’s just going to be a lot of hard work and learning to win. Sadly some people aren’t cut out for this, and I think that’s what separates High/Top players from Mid/Low-High

[@mrtreeman9396]

Here's my hot take: Nintendo's rereleases (skyward sword at full price, mario 3d all-stars, etc.) aren't the horrible, scummy practices everyone keeps saying they are. People need to realize that video game companies aren't charities; they're businesses. Just because you don't want to pay for something (even though half the people complaining will buy it anyway), doesn't make it immoral.

[@Raiker12321]

The bigger thing with 3d all stars was that it was only on sale for a limited time.

[@baslix5976]

you are one of those people that just blindly consumes

[@Chill_1ng]

platformer games (specifically open world but also others) are the best kind of video games because they combine a lot of technique for the competitive gamers, wonder for the people who love the art of games, and farming/exploring for the people who love spending a lot of time in the world.

[@ipakmann]

Every fangame that has attempted to make a *better* Pokemon game has failed. Not because their games are bad or that they lack features, it's because not a single person on the team knows how to make a single attractive monster design, let alone enough to match Pokemon's original offering of 150.

[@kidpixkid1001]

While comeback mechanics in fighting games are frowned upon, the fact that their commonplace now means that if you don't have one, your game is more boring for spectators (The most important to appeal to)

[@basicoutrage9591]

Using fear of missing out as a way to keep players engaged and/or make people pay money is criminal. If something is added to the game I should always have the ability to access the content eventually rather than find out while I was taking a break from a game I missed out on an item that defines the games meta and I have no way of getting it

[@ballisticboo7808]

The only time this is ok imo is cosmetics, but even then I don't really like it. Imagine being a little kid who's favorite character is a skin in his favorite game, but can't access it because it was exclusive to an event that ended years ago

[@frostxd1701]

Fighting Games as a whole are made for a very specific Demographic, one that enjoys hard labor and practice in order to see your hard work pay off, so that you can overcome an obstacle.for example in SFV when I practice trials with my main and study all the capabilities of my character, I'm able to go on ranked and dunk on Ryu and Akuma players with little to no issue, despite the fact that I was the one getting dunked on last week.

[@ramblincapuchin9075]

I disagree. It was Street fighter 2 that proved that fighting games could be for anyone, but with the caveat of what you mentioned: some people enjoy hard work Coney was on the money, and to further his point they are niche because fighting games adhere to one dimensional conventions. With shooters, mobas, rpgs there are different strands where there is something to enjoy between games in a specific genre. With fighting games, you could play samurai showdown or blaze blue, the experience isn't genuine For my money, I can take or leave a game like Fortnite, but there's no denying how well that game performed with Gears being Eric's prior crop. King of Fighters has at least 14 releases to date and that's their mainline series. It's as if they think we'll forget them if they don't keep it before us In the meantime, what did they do within the last two revisions to convince me that my hard work was bound to pay off? Ah yes, when I buy a PS5, that's when all my experience will roll over. Again, the issue is that developers are too afraid to break the mold. "Our clients are accustomed to a certain quality" So instead of showing people how _their game_ can be fun, they put it on the player to do the work, which might include enjoyment

[@Megameters]

VR is and will stay niche until someone makes it so you don't need to devote your PC and living space to running it.

[@knowone819]

The oversaturation of buzzwords on the internet is a direct correlation of not being able to hear someone’s point directly. Language and discussion only gets dumbed down and more difficult to understand since points are being fed to people in a quick-fire manner. Buzzwords seem to be the only way people can understand someone without any room for genuine thought in an atmosphere like Twitter, youtube comments, etc... and will lead younger generations to only be able to follow short bursts of yelling without much wiggle room for what an argument is meant to be. This type of short bickering back and forth will only lead to toxicity and misconstrued information and intention. I know language and communication can evolve, but this is a step in the wrong direction.

[@SoCalSon395]

A lot of modern 3D platformers are bad because they distract from the central premise of the game. When I'm playing mario I want to jump around and use the full extent of my moveset, not turn into a tank and fight an annoying centipede mech. This is a problem with Odyssey of course but it's been happening for a while with several series. Sonic Adventure 2 for example is really good in the Sonic and Shadow levels but the rest of the characters have levels designed less around platforming and more around unique gimmicks. It's like game devs feel this urge to push the boundaries of what they can cram into a platformer, and I just think it's making the genre way worse because at that point why are you making a platformer if you're barely going to let me do any platforming.

[@JasperRLZ]

twitch, streaming culture and social media are going to lead to a whole generation of kids not developing proper social skills, or having very distorted ideas of relationships, as the personal and interactive nature of streams/social media make the audience feel far "more friends" with content creators than they actually are. (not blaming the kids for this one, it's the adults fault, we did this to them)

[@somerandomidiot8050]

Other than mouse and keyboard, gyro controls are by far the best control scheme for shooters. They give you way more precision than you can get with just the dual stick scheme and people who hate on them are only doing so because they don't understand how to use them and get flashbacks to the Wii's admittedly terrible motion controls

[@ultrakillamrbeast]

Mario kart Wii undoubtedly has the best music out of all of the mario kart franchise

[@zitoarias4354]

Fortnite is officially The biggest video game crossover of series ever in terms of mainstream appeal Smash is a bigger cross over overall, but do you think the modern audience are gonna know where half the shit in smash comes from.

[@Malovus]

Playing a game for the story is like eating soup for the spoon

[@EllieMiller510]

I mean without that spoon it’s pretty hard to eat the soup

[@yort7002]

@@EllieMiller510 drink it

[@EllieMiller510]

@@yort7002 out of a bowl? weirdChamp

[@zeromythosver.]

This is one of those “bait but it’s not good enough to where it circles back around to being worth discussing” opinions. It’s too easily put to bed: what about any FromSoft game? Or what about: - Mother 3 - The good Final Fantasies (7 and imo the best, 9) - Chrono Trigger - The Metal Gear Solid games and (to a lesser degree but it’s still good) Rising - Ocarina and Majora’s Mask - Fallout: New Vegas (only New Vegas the others are narratively dogwater) Any of these more than make the case for why some games actually are worth playing for primarily their story.

[@doyouknowdaway65]

Some people really enjoy the story tho. Games without stories many times is like a hamburger without the burger

[@icarlygod]

I will never understand the complaints about the time investment and skill ceiling of fighting games. It has never been as serious of a problem in physical sports and I think there is a misconception amongst the casual gaming audience that in order to enjoy a video game, you have to play it. If you think about it, most people don't regularly play the sports they watch. They watch the sport, because they want to see a skillful performance. MLB pitchers throw 90 mph pitches with absurd precision because they've thrown a ball enough and trained their bodies enough to do so, but 10-year-olds will still pitch in their little league games knowing they'll never throw 90 mph nor throw precisely enough to deliberately throw over certain parts of the strike zone. Fighting game players practice the inputs of combos until the input pattern becomes thoughtless so they don't drop it in competition, and fucking adults will complain about having to memorize the combo when getting the muscle memory down for a combo to that degree takes at most, a month and that's only if you want executing the combo to be as automatic as breathing. What even more absurd is that practicing a fighting game is significantly more convenient and accessible than for most, if not all sports. For example, if you wanted to practice figure skating, you need the drive to the rink and pay for the ice time and maintenance every practice session. For every fighting game, you can just boot up your game, and go into practice mode in your own home without paying for anything. I genuinely think the people that hate fighting games either got destroyed by someone much better than them and write their experience off as the definitive fighting game experience, have an ego too fragile to handle losing to another person at anything, and/or are incapable of accepting the fact they are bad at fighting games and are too closed-minded to improve. Psychologically, I'm pretty sure losing in fighting games are harder because you don't have the option to share the loss with others like in team-based games. On the flip side, it feels much more rewarding to win, because you are the sole victor. I get that fighting games cater towards certain types of people and playing them is not everyone's cup of tea, but I don't think it means people can't enjoy watching them without playing them or that people have to make public announcements about how shitty fighting games can be. People don't do that with actual sports and when they do, it's usually in a joking manner.

[@QuackyPoo]

There's nothing wrong with loving an objectively bad game as long as you can admit it's shortcomings.

[@amphicyon4359]

Triple A games are nearing a point where regardless of budget, it will be far too unwieldy for develop. Currently, titles require 1000+ man studios working over 6+ years (with crunch) to create something impressive *and* fun, at which point standards have already moved on, and the entire thing needs to be overhauled to stack up. (Not to mention inherent issues with managing large teams). Many more AAA titles are gonnna end up like Cyberpunk with the trajectory things are going.

[@potato2769]

Triple A game studios just need to focus on making games that are fun to play.